Did Players Like Sumeru? | Tectone Reacts
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Did Players Like Sumeru? | Tectone Reacts
SUBSCRIBE PLEASE & LIKE PLEASE
𝗧𝗪𝗜𝗧𝗖𝗛 | / tectone
#Tectone
ALL LORE VIDS AND MORE HERE!!!! ---@francisleearthur
• Genshin Impact 1.0 - A...
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
OTK
Tectone
Tectone React
Otk react
steak and eggs
steak and eggs podcast
Sumeru is the best for me simply because of the feeling that we're finally moving as a team just to save the Dendro Archon.
I like that feeling where Dehya, Cyno, and Alhaitham are more or less enemies or opposing sides because of their affiliations and personalities... then by the end of Act IV, we are now united as a team for the sole purpose of saving the Dendro Archon. The slow buildup of relationship from enemies to friends, from mistrusts to trust, was probably the best part for me.
It was refreshing to see for once that the fate of a region didn't lie on protagonists' shoulders alone or even at all.
Wasn't inazuma about moving as a team to stop the vision hunt decree though kazuha with his friends vision cutscene was beautiful, I guess if you like samurai culture inazuma was better and if you like forests sumeru was better
@@Zythroxes It's different, like OP said, there is more tension since the characters that are with you don't get along with each other unlike the ones you have in Inazuma
@@Zythroxes Hmmm that's true on the surface level but still different. Kazuha and Kokomi's forces coming as a backup against Raiden Shogun is just a one minute thing. Traveler is alone basically most of the time, running big errands from Ayaka, Kokomi, and Yae.
@@genegenesis3010 there was a whole part of the story where you meet the army and base.. the cutscene was one minute but the narrative went throughout it, thoma ayaka yae kokomi gorou and kazuha (even his dead friend technically) all played a role in helping us take down the tyrant of the region
I loved Sumeru. Mainly because I liked Nahida as a character, and Dendro element was a great addition. Collei, Cyno, Nari, Dehya, Al. All great characters in their own right, and finally being able to shut up Scaramouche was a blast. Though I will admit, looking back on it, some bits....Yeah. But overall, did enjoy the experience. What more likely hurts Sumeru, is the afters. Like while Nahida's story quests were great. and a few tad bits here or there. But like most patches, afterwards is just dead patch, after dead patch. Like hell, I don't mind the concept of TCG, but when the TCG event, basically has HARDLY ANY TCG battles in it, you know it's barely worth anything and forgetful. Only good that came out of that event was the cute cat girl.
i agree. for starters, i loved the dendro archon quest. i personally enjoyed the time loop idea and it was really fun. The dendro element addition was insane too, and i didnt expect there to be so many reactions to it (probably why it took a long time to get into the game) and it is definitely viable all around. yeah there were some iffy parts here and there which made me spam click to skip parts in the story, but it was great. your point about TCG is exactly what i think, too. the card game is well made and all, i just only played it for a day or two then stopped because it got boring
@@HardstuckIronAlaynac Yeah, like I really like the TCG. If it was it's own standalone app, which let you have all the cards, and you can play with anyone. It'd be so much fun. But the amount you have to do, in order to get to next level, in order to invite a character in order to get their card. Like, as you say, a day or two you get bored, and I'm not gonna try to get like half a dozen cards lmao.
@@PhantomOverlordX2 thats what im sayin, and like im an impatient person and the matches take eons to finish
I love sumeru my fav place but the archon quest that part when you are stuck i hate it the archon quest need you to really focus to understand the story
It was ok, save the 3.6 and 3.7/ that shit lost me. saving the slimy womit of some semidragon... and then it was that - the biggest bs that made me uninstall, the 3.7 update.
Sumeru’s story, aesthetics, and overall area are amazing. It was just too much for me. I did not have time to do the quests, do the exploration, etc.
> I did not have time to do the quests, do the exploration, etc.
Bro what, how do you not have time for that? if you don't have time for that then you don't have time for anything in your life, but you are here, sitting on youtube bud.
You have like, AT LEAST, 1 patch cycle to do stuff slowly, that is 42 days and it's more like 2 patch cycles since they don't release big content on every single release so it's actually almost 3 months, in 3 months of time you cannot find the time to just slowly do stuff?
I didn't do Sumeru at all, not because I didn't have time but just because I simply didn't feel like it lmao.
"did not have time"
LMFAO, how are you even on RUclips If you have "no time"
@@blinkin5 Aww, did you get offended by my comment? 🥺 I said I *didn’t* have time, not that I don’t have time. So why don’t you get that through your thick skull before writing a whole fucking paragraph. Other people have a life unlike you.
@@JosepiThe13th Yeah, you’re right. I wish someone had told me that during the 3.X patches because I had taken a large break then and now that Fontaine is out it makes me contemplate on whether or not I want to explore Sumeru ever.
"Every Journey Has Its Final Day. Don't Rush" - Zhongli
Sumeru is not for everybody that is true. Though, if you are patient enough, it is one of the most heartbreaking, emotional, and amazing bunch of quests genshin has to offer!
The Aranara quest is just too long, I think that's Mihoyo response to those who kept yapping about not having content and thry still complain lol.
Agree. I was the only one among my friends who started playing Genshin back in 2020 that actually stuck with the game after Inazuma.
Sumeru has many highs and lows. But the quests that are good, are among the best Genshin has to offer. And the interaction with the World is amazing. An explorers fantasy imo.
@@MrJoefel367 I mean. To be fair, you don't have to do the whole thing in a sitting. So I actually think it's length is fine. Sure, for a content creator, it may suck. But like, you don't have to play the entire quest in a get go.
Indeed
I love the main archon quests as well as world quest for the desert and aranara, definitely better than Inazuma imo. However, looking back to Sumeru characters quest, they're not that great nor memorable. The best character quests from 3.x are Baizhu and best girl Yoimiya and sadly they're not living in Sumeru 😂
For me sumeru is the best because of the mechanic that Irminsul applying to the whole in game books and literature's, the whole things change even the characters dialogue
The amount of misinformation in the chat lol. The sibling is a descender. The Fatui simply didn’t record him as such for some unknown reason because, as said in the video, it doesn’t make any sense that he’s from Teyvat.
Something happened to him along the way and that’s what we have to find out now.
-
Also, the video also made a Mistake. Nahida is not a reincarnation of Rukkadevata. The wording of the dialogue is weird, but it simply wanted to say that Nahida is the new Avatar of Irminsul just like Rukkadevata was ( thus the whole “you are me and I am you” thing, as they come from the same root ). But they are different entities.
The mere fact that she created her proves that she’s not her reincarnation. It was just a weird analogy based on the fact that they both come from Irminsul.
Sumeru was a big step-up for main story as well as a giant one for world quests. The lore was still incredible, but even better implemented with Irminsul rewriting the story of the world and all the lore and world quests tieing everything together
tbh i really loved sumeru's archon quests, i thought they were really good, especially acts 2 and 5.
the desert was a nightmare to explore though, a lot of things were locked behind world quests and without the underground map, i kept getting lost (i have no sense of direction). it felt like a chore to explore which is something i've never felt before. i really enjoyed exploring 3.8's mirage though, so much that i dreaded going back to the desert to continue my exploration
the insane size of sumeru is the reason i wished for yelan and wanderer instead of saving up, so much time saved with those two, and they also work well together
The desert is big, but when we are in dry patches like 4.4-4.8 then we can go back and explore. I personally liked the desert, tho i wished i got to explore it with the underground map. Also the world quests, specifeclly Golden slumber and the following quests are 2 of the best world quests yet
@@johanneseure6761 I really liked jeht and the world quests, I wished it was voice tho, at least the major world quests like the aranara, golden slumber, eternal oasis etc. The desert would've been so much better with the multi layered map, I'm glad they added that now tho
I will never understand why so many important storylines revolve around characters set in the past or stupid npcs instead of the characters you pull for. Then, if you wanna know more about the characters you pull, you'll have to dig through their voicelines or wait for character quests that take forever to show up just for the quest to be about a stupid npc again
Yea this was my main problem with Sumeru as well
Because of this thing called "lore" lol wtf
@@wiswcnot lore.
World building. Lore is somewhat a separate thing.
Your NPC is the bread and butter of your world.
Unfortunately, Teyvat doesn't revolve around Playable characters.
A bit of a shame.
Almost as if the game is about *teyvat* or something eh? Weird.
@@stargazer6510" a bit of a shame" for you maybe sure. Not universal however.
For me i loved sumeru for 3 reasons
1- im a middle eastern begging for good representation (not the usual terrorists in movies/games or just sand, silk markets and camels)
2- the story of Al-Ahmar was actually interesting af for me and going through the ruins with jeht and jebrael was sooooo investing
3- the tiny Aranara quests was fun for me cuz i did them slowly and took my time playing and reading through them for 2-3 hours a day and not play them in one setting
The combination of all these things made sumeru pretty enjoyable to me and I understand it’s not for everyone so if u didn’t like it hopefully you’ll enjoy other nations
pretty much, the only ones that put middle eastern culture like that are americans in media, asians tend to focus on the cool stuff like myths clothing piramids food etc i like how asian games represent middle eastern culture a lot
@@CzDelta92 true! I was beyond shocked going through every place and seeing statues, buildings, names, food, music and overall my culture being represented in such a wonderful way
I felt right at home!
Hope they keep it up on other games instead of just portraying us as hooligans 💔
I mean it's whats most known unfortunately@@CzDelta92
I disagree about the timeloop. Normally I hate it when the characters take way longer to find something out than me too, but in this scenario the traveler's memories were being cleared every day. The traveler only started realizing it once they kept feeling deja vu and then Nahida helped us.
Yeah but why would you feel deja vu after 1000 days and not early?
@hantergidi considering nobody else seems to be feeling deja vu at all, it's good we did at all. The only reason we do as well as we do is due to the dendro blessing and Nahida's assistance. I do think the quest went on a little long, but overall, I enjoyed the experience.
I came to comment that Sumeru was AWSOME for me. Loved the story and some of the side quests were surprisingly deep.
Tectone literally banned that guy for no reason 37:26 . He simply wasn't listening.
33:38 The video guy told " Balladeer erased himself from existence just like rukhadevata" and then someone types the same thing later 36:50 and tectones like " oh wtf ". this dude is not listening
in the 3.5 act as well , they reveal Alberich and it's significance and Kaeyas surname right in the very beginning and then dude later goes like " wtf is Alberich , is this nuts ". lol
Sumeru archon quest is still the best archon quest in game hands down ( especially act 2,3 and 5) . Fontaine has great potential feel like it would be the 2nd best. Sumeru had the build up of antagonist from the beginning of the game with dottore and scaramouche that created much more hype also because nahida is easily the best archon ( even though my prsnl fav is furina)
How is nahida the best when even you like Furina more lol? Nahida was horrible imo especially with the way she handled the issue in her personal quest... I regret wasting primos on her now.
@@tsarcube9284 well that's your opinion I love both nahida and furina. But furina more so of her personality and gimmicks rather than being an archon or story elements. Nahida covers that too ( granted furina is new and hasn't gotten a story focused on her)
@@crimsondemon6231 Dude we literally got 2 acts just now.....
@crimsondemon6231 In terms of lore so far sumeru is still better but it could change when we get to 4.1 and 4.2
@@crimsondemon6231
Fontaine act 1 > Sumeru act 1
Sumeru act 2 > Fontaine act 2
Sumeru act 5 is still the best archon quest genshin ever had as of now. We should wait for all Fontaine acts to release before making comparison
>Video explains
>Teccy confused
"Okay but what does that mean?"
>Chat reiterates
"Oh now I understand"
The sad part is that he didn't react to nahida's second story quest which was the biggest lore drop yet
If u have no patience, everything felt boring for you. Sumeru act2 and act 5 still one of the best quest in genshin.
You’re right, I have no patience
If its boring, its boring. Patience has got nothing to do with it.
@@eulavmaballs246 Had u seen him play through the sumeru quest? He just skip most of the dialouge, trashtalk with chat and don't even remember what happaned in the quest even tho it just mention in the dialouge like 15 sec ago. It is the worst streaming content he produce in that period of time. The whole stream is toxic af with so much L take
@@eulavmaballs246 Hah
Definitely. Nahida is my favorite archon story wise. The only reason Sumeru didn't hit as hard for me was because I didn't feel inclined to care about the characters the way they were presented. I don't feel like that for Fontaine because I already care about characters like Lyney, Lynette, Navia and Neuville
I almost cried when Nahida had to say goodbye to the previous archon, however, I didn’t pay attention to any of the lore or info before that
Well tbh the traveler and paimon couldn't have known sooner that they were in a loop because they were getting their memories of that day erased every night so next day is always like a new day for them...If it wasn't for travelers intuitions and Nahida's help they would have been stuck in that loop forever.
I for one Truly love sumeru the story the lore the areas and yes even the aranara quest I enjoyed it I love sumeru so much and nothing can change my mind
I'll be honest i loved Sumaru a lot and its still my favorite. I also love the fact that Sumaru broke the cycle of archons not helping us with any information about our goal. Fontaine is also a breath of fresh air as well.
sumaru
i really dont get the overwhelming hate for sumeru. best archon quest, best side characters thus far. yes everything after 3.5 was boring but thats always how it is??? exploration is always tedious. the worst part was not having an underground map but they now fixed that. if people think they arent gonna get tired of fontaines underwater exploration the same way they got tired of sumerus underground desert theyre wrong lol
I felt the same way with people apparently hating Inazuma and its story. Maybe people just don't like Genshin's story lol.
@@madpizzamanfr atp im pretty sure most of them hate it bc the things they complain about are the literal story
It shouldn’t be like that though, just bc its normal at this point doesnt make it okay
Itto and Yelan both coming late was a super nice surprise. I am a bit mixed about the chasm. While big mine doesn't sound appealing on paper I actually did pretty much all the content there. So I liked it more than I care to admit.@@JosepiThe13th
To be fair the desert has one of the best soundtrack/story/places, personally me I love the eternal oasis and the oasis for the former hydro archon.
I liked the Sumeru questline, it was the first patch Archon Quest I cared about outside of the first ones from patch 1.0 but really? I'm sad that the desert lore of Al Ahmar (King Deshret) and his kingdom didn't get more focus and maybe even some cutscenes. It's actually insanely crazily good. His story, his Kingdom and how it all fell.
I loved Sumeru the story was the best it had ever been and Nahida is such a great archon. My biggest complaint is that there was way to much desert making the last patches very stale.
Honestly I loved it was way more into it then Inazuma, the ‘loop’ quest is without a doubt my favourite quest in the game even better then the new stuff in hydro region, coz of the sheer fact it would be super easy to break the illusion that nothing was wrong, tho way more intrusive might of seen it but for me I had no idea and that will forever be in my memory and my fav quest plus we full meet nahida that a bonus
I loved Sumeru story and it was the saddest yet. It was very interesting.
There's a lot more content in Sumeru beyond this. The main quest with the Dendro dragon that unlocks the newest trounce domain was really cool. And when you were watching the magic performance and the water tank dropped and you said you really liked content like that, you would probably also really like the world quest with the tanit tribe in the desert. It gets insanely dark. The final quest in the desert also seemingly unveils a literal gate to hell and went far harder than I was expecting.
Thats what you get when you didnt paid attention in the dialogues and only waiting for the dialogues to end lol
Sumeru story in its entirety is peak. It's so rich and lore heavy that even some events now in Fontaine still connect to what happened in sumeru, especially in the desert. But obviously, reading dialogues and paying attention to cutscenes are not everyone's cup of tea.
Guy: says something we learned way before Sumeru
Teccy: I remember none of that!
It's always so weird to me how Teccy hates on Paimon when she was clearly created for and is the way she is because of exactly people like Teccy!
28:56 that's the point of a summary Teccy
I loved Sumeru, it's the only region I got close to 100% exploration on every subregion, even the desert.
i remember enjoying Sumeru's story, yes, some of the parts were longer but overall i find it really good. thought Carbert's quest was kinda underwhelming for me because it mainly consisted of going back and forth and lore dumping, AND it was short.
Scara's story though still remains my favourite because it literally changed my attitude towards him. like i couldn't care less about him before that and after his quest, he's one of my favourite characters if not my favourite. also his demo and teaser add so much to his story.
also also this was the first time i genuinely cared for an archon, Nahida is the best
I will say the Sumeru archon quest started off well enough, because the loop isn't nearly as bad as Endless Eight was from The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya. And canonically, it maybe many days in the dream loop, but I believe there were a few actions you can take to shortcut some of the events if you did realize what was happening earlier.
EDIT: I literally basically quit Genshin post 3.5, and only finally got back into it it recently with the mentality of I'm just going to do stuff in Genshin I want to, and catch up on all the dumb character story quests, because some of them are fun at least.
Sumeru was peak 🙏🙏 it had so much lore involved and it was actually interesting.
I think the video itself is not telling the story very well, to fast paced, skipping some details, not really highlighting certain details. I think thats the reason Tectone was frequently confused. Its not the best summary, but I guess it does its job.
1:50 I skim the story and even I caught on these parts of the lore from the dialogue.
7:05 But you have hindsight to this, so that take is kinda bad. Like if you were the character this was happening to, the 2nd time would be passed off as Dejavu. The 3rd is when you wise up.
13:10 bruh did narrator skip the part where there was a big fight that caused the the collapse? Made it sound like the sinking sand just came out of nowhere.
46:05 no. Kill them all
46:35 Technically, yes there was. But they were in the 3.7 and 3.8 event quests. You meet Charlotte in 3.7 in that TGC event and in 3.8 the Verulyan Mirage is full of Hydro Eidolon and also an Oceanid named Idya who gave you bits of info about Fontaine.
I think from a gamer pov who just wants to get things done etc, sumeru quests can be extremely long and boring and full of unneeded details, but the details are there to essentially world build and make the story a little more human than just "Traveler comes and saves yet another nation!" The isek to me was more so a way to make the player more connected and understanding how important the keepers were cause otherwise they're just crazy old people. There definitely are better ways to tell this type of story, I think genshin does a wonderful job of worldbuilding. Looking into the lore of genshin from small to large, you can see a giant interconnecting web. Like sure, the inazuma bladsmith and other npcs may not seem the most important, they all play a significant role in connecting the whole story together. The story telling of genshin may not be the best all the time, but their world building and lore (beyond just the archon quests) is amazing imo.
Archon quest was insane, forest was awesome.
Then I got fed a mouthful of sand every. fucking. day. for 10 months.
my biggest complaint with sumeru was the desert exploration and subsequent storyline that you were forced to play through to explore the desert
the storyline itself was pretty good, but the fact it was a silent world quest killed all immersion for it, and the fact that it prevented me from just openly exploring the pyramids and other ruins, was a big stick in the mud for my enjoyment; but also it was really annoying how much it walked you through the exploration step by step through the quest instead of letting you explore and puzzle solve on your own, I don't recall another quest that was this integral to world exploration
"the fact it was a silent world quest killed all immersion for it". Sounds like a you problem ngl . Good luck being immersed playing classic bangers like Chrono trigger I suppose
@@justsomeguy727 if I wanted to read walls of text with background music, I'd play an actual dating sim game or I'd read a book with music
When you've got a cool storyline but the majority of it is just the sound of clicking and BGM, it's kinda hard to enjoy it
Scaramouche Annoyed me, but at least he was the opposite of Raiden.
Raiden: Looked cool at first, but turned out to be an actual psycho without any respect. (She literally didn't care)
Scaramouche: Looked like a jackass, but story was actually well written. Scara's reaction to all of it was also way better.
Story was lag but great a great one. Al Haitam and scara were the highlight of the quest.
Wasn't a fan of Sumeru some of the quests were overlong, not voiced and boring af, still better than the Mountain though.
Funny how that happens huh? Whales always complain about how easy it is..I feel like cons are for rewarding you in case you get doubles but whales view it as the baseline 😂
In case if anyone is confused on why Scaramouche/Wanderer’s design changed it’s heavily tied to Buddhism. Ashikai a lore channel goes more into depth about it in case anyone is interested :)
fire
Tectone: "im paying attention, im listening what do you mean?"
Video: 24:42
Tectone: 25:25
I like Sumeru's archon quest, and the town of Sumeru itself. As for the rest of Sumeru... it was just ... there. There's a lot of desert! And.... more desert. I returned after a break to try it out and decided to quit again here.
I loved the sumeru story personally. Took a sec for it to get moving but it actually topped inazuma for me in the end.
inazuma is a low bar to set tho
Tectone says he wants "show not tell" but then actually hates on showing and wants telling. He says he gets nothing playing the game then wonders why Paimon explains everything. What a cringelord with no self-awareness.
It’s wired to hear how other players dident enjoy an archon quest, it makes me feel like somethings wrong with me for enjoying everything, ever since the start of the game Iv enjoyed all of the story, Iv always been on the edge of my seat, I was most excited for sumaru, and if anything the only thing I dident like about it, is that it dident give me more information then it did, on stuff like elemental energy, monsters and how they operate, mechanisms, and so on
As for side quests, the only time I don’t like them is when I don’t have enugh time in by day to fully enjoy it myself like I want to
I guess it doesn’t help his case that he dident actively engadge himself in the game beyond archon quests, and a few early events
If you look, most comments say Sumeru was the best region, I just think Tec is coping bc he missed out on it..
Out of all streamers who played the Sumeru Archon Quests, only Teccy has a different take about the story. Heck even MTashed approves the flow of the Archon Quest of the Dendro Nation.
Not for nothing but this is a great example why Paimon is needed to re-explain story details. Teccy can be kinda slow to absorb information (Watch his streams if you don't believe me). Teccy hates when paimon does it but then will frequently ask chat or someone else's video to explain stuff that already went in one ear and out the other.😅
I liked Sumeru more than I liked Inazuma, Inazuma's story was weird and some things didn't make sense, but hey there were cool cutscenes. Sumeru overall story was just "MUA" through the set up, we got to meet everyone properly and their banters between each other. The story actually got dark and threw us though a loop, plot twists, it was just crazy thats why I enjoyed it more.
I honestly thought the pacing of the Samsara Festival quest was done quite well for the first half. Cause it's not like we had to do the exact same thing each day, they did start to condense is down more and more as you went, and it didn't take long until we started doing something different. I do think they could of condensed the part with us figuring out the real answer to what was happening. Like, I never really understood why Nahida couldn't tell us. She said it would blow our minds, but...I don't know how figuring out on our own would make that any different. So that part could of definitely been done better. I get wanting to make the final reveal a mystery, but they definitely didn't do it the best way.
Everyone on the live stream completely disagreed with you which is good because when you said it was the worst I COMPLETELY disagreed..
NGL he's the only streamer who blatantly hates Sumeru Archon Quest and called it "worst" without knowing and experiencing the quest thoroughly on his own just because he hates the pacing of the story that made him miss the major events of the story.
Before Fontaine, most popular Genshin streamers and casual players (including myself) loved the Sumeru Archon Quests a lot because of its content and lore. The pacing is debatable because not all liked the pacing of the story (for me it's all fine and I like slow-paced storytelling nonetheless).
Guess Teccy wants the approach of the following:
• Fast-Pacing Storytelling
• Playable Character-Focused Only majorly (he hates, or at most, ignore NPCs in this game, which is just dumb since NPCs in every game are the foundation and the bloodline of the game's story)
I did like Sumeru. Region, visuals, quests, music. I think it's the best. Fontaine doesn't have the same wow effect for me as Sumeru did.
**SPOILERS FOR FONTAINE ARCHON QUEST**
I agree with Tectone saying that a random ass NPC as a villain can't or hard to be taken seriously. I literally called it in Fontaine's Archon Quest when the boss of the Primordial Sea Water is just a generic. (yeah, the main villain is just a remodeled NPC named Vacher).
Sumeru HAD promise, and could have been a lot more interesting. I just think they got too fixated on the desert section and had way too many side quests. The jungle portion was fun to explore, but I don’t have nearly as much fondness for Sumeru as I did Inazuma.
Nah, Inazuma had much more promise and delievered a rushed story. Although Inazuma region has a far more interesting map, cause the map basically tells a story on its own.
@@HousekiMitaibro, like my memory is foggy about what happened but as far as I remember its explained since the person that write the stories for Mondstadt and Liyue quit/ got fired ( can't remember now ) and that's why Inazuma story was floppy since they had like half of what the person did and half they had to make it themselves since Inazuma was already airing they didn't had much time to think of a story.
Now don't take me for word since I don't remember it how it was but something like this happened so yeah, they then hired new writers.
Oh yeah. I absolutely agree. Inazuma and Sumeru both have very just okay stories in my opinion. I personally dislike Sumeru’s more, primarily because of what Scaramouche’s story did and how it essentially f*cked over the importance of time as a concept in Genshin, as well as killing off any potential storylines that could have come from him, such as what they were seemingly building up with him and Kazuha, but there’s a lot from Inazuma that is also dumb.
Well said! I hated the quest in the desert and to me most of Sumeru world quest felt too long. I think am one of the few people that didn't enjoy Sumeru that much 😅
@@dionlaurie3503 tbh Sumeru is my least favorite region so don't feel guilty of not liking it.
For me Sumeru archon quest was the best cause archon actually gave us a lot of info when every other archon was like "ye that sucks, i dont know shit"
Sumeru probably gets hate cuz the amount of dialogues and lore and genshin burn out was pretty high during sumeru. I enjoyed sumeru. Especially the archon quests and world quests. If u have patience and take ur time, it wouldn't be that overwhelming.
22:13 of course you know this. You summoned for Wanderer. 🙃
Honestly Scaramouche’s storyline carried Sumeru for me
Sumeru had a really good avengers story during the desert. Idk I loved it
Tectone First time seeing welt: "This dude is ass"
*4 month later*
Tectone: "Welt is so cool dude."
Sumeru archon quest,even world quests(people who dont skip dialogues),were compeltely on different level,firsy time the errand made for the sake of nations archon was helpful for traveller,at the end unlike some other aechons,sumeru archon quest was the only quest which revealed a lot of in formation about the forbidden knowledge and the dragon sovereigns,first who came,even in inazuma liyue we didnt heard these words often,leaving enkanomiya eorld quest ehich revealed a lot about genshin ancient history at start of the world,sumeru areas were literally dope,the desert and the khaenriah golems,ruins,hwich werent availaible in previous,regions,seing sumerus undergorund landscape,and terittory it doesnt surprise me ehen kaeya was saying khaenriah is located deep underground sumeru
He didn't say it or if it is important but you can also change Scaramouche's name to whatever you like but with sum name off limit.
It seems that tecton has become very fragile and just bans anyone
Yeah I don't know why the guy in 6:18 got a ban.
I see Genshin as a long book that people nowadays with very short attention spans will not necessarily enjoy due to the slow burn and walls of text you have to get through (like reading a novel or long book). To some, the slowness of it is what makes the small great moments all the better. While something like Star Rail is made for people that like to get their dopamine fix frequently but there is nowhere near as much substance... as far as quest designs go. Emphasis on that last part because Star Rail does have walls of texts to sit through if you want to dig deep into the lore and read all the books you pick up. For a modern audience, Star Rail is the "better designed" game no doubt, but it is all subjective.
I think Sumeru was very good... First time. Jungle, dessert and the city are fine, it just didn't need to be 8 updates long and 3.8 was so bad that it killed the game for me.
"Yeah, Tignahri sounded a lil bit different back when I played" BROOOOO WHAT THE😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Before Fontaine came out Sumeru easily had the best execution for an Archon quest, that being said, I personally enjoyed Inazuma's more as Act 3 of Inazume was more hype and overall Inazuma had better cutscenes. Atm Fontaine is looking like it will surpass both.
I FUCKING love Sumeru. It's so good. A lot of people hated the desert, but I honestly didn't mind
I feel that sumeru has one of the most impactful stories at the moment. If you ask me about the story, I can mainly only recall the good parts so it's mostly all good I feel. Scaramouche story conceptually is one of the dumbest, but the lore drop is insane so I don't hate it as much. Nilou's story quest has a small debate section, which could be the basis of Fontaine's trial sections, but overall pretty basic, not too impactful. I've not yet played alhaitham's, Cyno's and Nahida's story quests yet, but I heard that nahida's story has quite a lot of important lore. There's also the Aranara quest, which is way too lengthy, 2 jeht quests and apep quest too. There's quite a lot of important lore and story in sumeru, but it's not really spread out very proportionately. The good ones are mainly at the first half of version 3.X while the back half just got boring, but that's as per usual tbh
Tectone: "I wanna find shit out at the same time as the characters. That way, I won't find them stupid."
Also Tectone: "Escher was Dottore? Why didn't they just say that from the beginning? I would've enjoyed it more."
No hate by the way. I just found it funny.
also he say they were stupid for not noticing the time loop when literally the game explains it erases their memories at the end of the day and even after discovering it they are focusing on knowing if is even a time loop or something else by gathering clues, he has a lazy reader problem and expects to understand it in a few minutes with youtube videos after already having a bad understanding of events that lead to that point...
I've had some thoughts about Sumeru for a long time (no hate). So, this might be a long comment. Also, I’m not a native English speaker, so I apologize for any misspelled words and incorrectly written sentences.
I’m not a big fan of Sumeru personally. Of course, I don't hate it, but I think miHoYo took too big of a step when they worked on this region. The Archon Quest is great, and we can see that Genshin is consistently giving us good Archon quests. The map also looks very pretty, but the exploration part is quite annoying.
Going under the mountains into those caves before they release the underground map system is just torture. I always joke with people, saying there is not a single mountain in Sumeru that is solid. All of them are hollow. The desert part was very interesting when they first released it because we had never had a desert map before. But I just think the desert map is way too big. With a lot of underground buildings, I just dislike hanging around there. I like Inazuma and Liyue, but I think Liyue had the disadvantage of being an earlier map.
Also, I have this feeling not just for Sumeru but for the direction of the storyline and Archon quests (some legendary quest) in general. I think we are already in the fifth country. miHoYo needs to start revealing more answers to those big questions like the Abyss, Fatui, etc.
They keep throwing new quests at us with new characters but not providing enough explanation or information. Like the Dendro dragon that is being introduced, who seems extremely strong, maybe even stronger than all the Archons? Also, the Caribert quest. But there’s not enough information given for me to care about these new characters. I usually don't argue with someone about who is the strongest or care that much, but I really want to see characters that I'm familiar with not getting powercrept in lore. (I don’t know if I explained my thoughts correctly, but we can discuss.)
Furthermore, I think being a 12+ game has really restricted Genshin. For example, the desert world quest (the one with no voiceover and is long AF, yeah, that one) is actually quite scary. If it were voiced, it would probably be 18+. To fully grasp the story, you need to carefully read those lines without any voiceover. For me, I have to find a video that explains the story, and I believe that if a player needs to search on RUclips or just on the Internet in general, you have failed at storytelling.
The problem wihr Dehya is that Hoyoverse paid developers to spend time and effort making sure that Dehya does not work at all with Yelan and Xingque
ADDITIONALLY
Dehya’s entire burst consisting of 7-8 strikes is ONE ATTACK, so if you jump it CANCELS HER BURST
Imo, I thought the Sumeru arc and region were overall good. I enjoyed my time there but I wish the nation wasn’t too desert-focused.
If You didn't want to complete Sumeru Story then how you able to play Fontaine archon quest without completing previous quest. WTF.
He have someone played for him
@@Menarique-m6i 😂😂😂 and he is content creator of this game... Shit...
RUclipsr always has to be the best one from these game... But these people learned from the chat... #Reverse role... 😂
I would like to say one think... If you think the festival repeating itself is not made to your liking, that's fine... But to say it's not executed well is just plain bullshit, based on your own assumptions. There was nothing wrong with that quests, or the design of the quest, it's just not to the liking of people that want non-stop action.
Also there was not a single point in that Quest, that you could have possibly known what was happening, especially since the day wasn't SIMPLY repeating itself, again another reason why you need to states these things as just your opinion, and not a flaw in writting
Tectone can hate the NPCs all he wants, but ignoring their dialog because of that is really dumb, and I don't say that often...
He can play the game how he wants to?
@@klycix9525 Of course, if he wants to miss half the context, but I don't like how he later talks like he knows what's going on and says certain story moments suck.
38:00 they were referring to this:
Narrator: He erased himself from Irminsul making everyone forget he existed. [Because that’s what the fuck happened when he ERASED himself from the TIMELINE]
Teccy: Do they have Alzheimer’s?
Maybe you have it idk man💀 That ban was unreasonable wtf. Pull away chat if it distracts you
World quests also contain much information, especially that quest's in deserts
3.2 best archon quest. All playable characters and barely and npcs and the nps that you did have to talk to were actually good characters good like Rahman
Tbh Sumeru is least favorite region of mine so far.
As an artists, i had high hopes on how it may look like, but idk i guess, i don't really like the designs of the characters/buildings?
I mean, for example if i were to design the characters of dessert:
1. I would've make their futures more connected to one another, so if i would go etc. theme of "Egyptians" i would make far more characters stand out with it so it doesn't feel messy, like yes u can argue that Cynos design is unique, but like i like it more when the region has connecting/matching outfits, so u can easily say yep thats from that region! But when u look at etc. Nahida, Nilou and Dori to me each one of them just look like from entire different region 😅
2. More skin colours in the dessert, like bro we have only 3 characters that are tinned from Sumeru, Cyno, Candace and Dehya, which is just depressing, i thought there gonna be more characters with some other skin colour type, but well...
3. Since Sumeru was supposed to be a rainforest and all, i thought the stractures even in cities will feel more natural/ nature like? Ik they wanted to make the stractures Middle-East designed which is cool, but idk just kinda weird to see those in middle of forest u know what im sayin😅
Like no hate i just think the Sumeru is kinda messy place.
what I don't get is the inconsistency of how memory whipping works, they can't say at the same time whipping the archon removes all the memory of her and thus the corruption of the tree but still say Scaramouche's memories can be retrieved, its either it goes, or it doesn't.
I loved it,the exploration could 100% be better but still. Sumeru is my fav regio but Fontaine will propably take the crown in a few patches
I think the other 2 descenders are the primordial one and the second who came
Thanks for the video Tectone! I skim through it, but reading few of the live chat, I'm sorry a lot of people doesn't speak english so they don't know both exaggerations and people literally tooks months and years to even finish the quest because people who like genshin casually also touch grass unlike others.
Though I agree sumeru is not for everyone, even a story lover myself, it got a bit to taxating because I forgot I was playing a game and not reading a book.
However the sibling arc is my favorite among all of them.
He can’t even pay attention when a quest is summarized…..
I liked the desert lore and how there is an entrace to the abyss under sumeru and get the achievement "abandon all hope ye who enter here". that achievement slaps hard.
tectone the only guy I know that can be listening to something and still not actually listen to whats being said lol
tectone should really play the caribert questline, its quite eerie and sad at the same time.
Well, his account already finished Fontaine Archon Quest Act II already. His account was probably speedran on pilot while he was hiatus due to burnout and it's very unfortunate because he didn't experience the real essence of all Sumeru Archon Quests (including Caribert) and calling it the worst Archon Quest in the game because of his impatience while doing the quests.
in terms of story, until the hadramaveth area (the tornado sand), the story went well imo. but when it goes to the pari quest, i'm getting a little bit burned out for doing more quest and doing desert exploration. but luckily i finished it together with the mirage event (which is pretty fun imo)
Ngl the eternal oasis is still peak storytelling for me,never have i been so fixated on a couple of dead gods whom might only get a design reveal at best
@@randomperson093 true tho. The eternal oasis quest gave some pretty juicy lore especially about the hydro archon. I finished it like 2 days before the mirage event ended
@@akuwiz8102Isn't the pari area for the hydro archon? Eternal oasis only focused on the three gods of sumeru and Jeht.
@@Sawyer_Lotusthe Previous Hydro Archon actually and it's very crucial lore. Some players probably just ignore dialogue knowing that quest mentions a lot about both the Prev. Hydro Archon and Khaenri'ah.
@@Sawyer_Lotus omg yes my bad. I mistakenly thought of the eternal oasis to amrita pool. y'know, oasis = pool sort of...
Man i didn’t think that backseat lore dump was a thing but this video changed me 💀💀💀💀💀💀
The quest with Caribert was haunting, especially the last scene with the twins..
in the end of the video chat say u miss the thing bcs in chasm we learn from deinsleif that hilichurls was people i think that chat mean in chasm we explore this backward city from surface and try to help former friend of deinsleif to stop the abyss
yea it was the same thing that made me quit too, imagine getting sidetracked for a fucking annoying kid that cant mind his own business, good got its a pain
i like how you reacted "wait that's it!? that's so short" for the Caribert part, it only seems that way cause you're literally watching a 3 minutes summary of said quest, try playing it by yourself and immerse yourself in it then you'll understand. you even totally missed the big twist reveal at the end about the MC being in the sibling's memory.
Sumeru had the best quests by far. But it's not for everyone esp for those who only care about combat not any lore.
When the day started repeating did tectone get wolf gravestone flashbacks
Took me a while to realize it was ACTUALLY recorded before 4.0 i thought it wasnt but damn
I understand simping for HSR but comparing 3.2 quest to Cocolia quest is just hilarious. Outside of the cool Cocolia fight the quest was just plain and frankly boring.