BETTER than the PRO CONTROLLER?｜Nintendo Switch
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Is this it?! Is this the Pro Controller replacement we've been looking for? Or will the search continue for the ultimate Nintendo Switch gamepad with a d-pad that works well for games like Mario Maker, megaman x, Street fighter and Blazblue crosstag?
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Just a note: it’s still only day one for me with this controller but I noticed the whole d-pad pushes down and can activate all the directions simultaneously? I’ll keep testing but I can see where this might be bothersome for certain games or certain characters
Very unfortunate,Mr Stark
You need to try the snes30 pro from 8bitdo (the one like snes/sfc with two analogs and triggers+shoulders) is the best for platformers in 2d
@DewGetRekt The Magic NS lets you use it on the switch.
@NihongoGamer I have a question, about which controler you recommend for mario maker 2? I have been thinking on the mix box controler to play (with the wasd). What is your opinion?
You should try and get your hands on 8bitdo's Super Famicom styled pro controllers. I don't know why, but in my experience, the purple American SNES ones have heaps of accidental diagonals, but the Japanese styled ones don't, so I would say get the SF30 pro or SF30 pro+, trust me, it's all of the joy with none of the jank
You should try the 8BitDo SN30 Pro+. It’s basically a full-on Pro Controller replacement with an SNES-style D-Pad.
And especially compare the dpad with this m30 🤔 for fighting games and for platforms
Hell, it even has rumble and gyroscopes in the controller. For 50 dollars!
I've heard good things about the Pro +'s dpad. The models before this had pretty bad dpads though. Looking forward to trying the + out.
Yup, plus it has so many customization options including macros, turbo, etc. with the program. This controller is definitely one that I'm looking at getting.
Yes.
Shoulder buttons were on the Sega Saturn controller, which that 8bitdo pad more closely resembles.
8:36
Map dash to the L button. I know that it screws up the weapon select buttons, but mapping dash to L/ZL buttons makes a world of difference.
true. i do that too. but i use the R button
X Buster on R. Item select on L2 and R2 or L and X. It takes a bit of getting used to, but I dash jump so frequently (especially in X1) that hitting both with my thumb is absolutely necessary.
Yay! I'm so happy that you got a far better d-pad and a fight pad now. I remember I suggested you buy this one when you were unhappy with your pro controller. Happy gaming!
Also you're right the mega drive controller never had shoulder buttons, but honestly this controller is far more Saturn than mega drive anyway
This is so right. It’s basically an improved Saturn controller ERAAA!! IT”S SO GOOD ERAA!!! I LOVE IT
The Sega Genesis and Saturn controllers were always the best for fighting games. So that is really not surprising. I might actually pick this up.
did you get your m30 ? could you please tell me how the d-pad feels like ? Would appreciate to know which d-pad has better accuracy, either the sn30, pro 2 or m30... I was thinking about this model as well for Sonic-like games, even Mania but I have had mostly bad experiences with 10 or less chinese controllers because specifically the d-pad has one problem or another. Either it's too stiff, have to press harder in order to get in-game response, OR "ghost input" when pressing down or right and so then I get diagonal input in-game.
Thanks for sharing bud.
@@naam4769the dpad is floating so that would be a thing to get used to, but overall it would be a fine controller. The power a fightpad also has a floating dpad and is way cheaper (the switch edition is) and if you reall want a traditional one the hori fightpad is the way to go.
Overall if it calls itself a fightapd for fighting games then it is going to have a good dpad
i love this controller for shoot em ups! my number one controller and probably my favorite way to play that genre now :)
The M30 really shines when you use it in Tekken for motion characters. I'm a Mishima player & I couldn't does EWGFs or wavedash with the Dualshock 3 & 4. With the M30 I can actually do them now.
How is the pad going!?
Can u do circular motions zangief 100% consistent?
Ty
@@memecity6722 Good One less Gief player
1st thing on megaman X is to map dash to L1
just got the m30 and my god, best dpad i've experienced in my life, i used to believe the snes, ps2 and ps4 dpads were good, the bar just got higher, they are just okay now
thanks a lot for the suggestion
Nihongo Gamer: I hate having so much stuff, I wish I could get rid of it all and just be free
Also Nihongo Gamer: I bought a new controller, why do I keep buying so many controllers
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For Megaman X, I like using the shoulder button for dash, this solves the issue for holding a charge and jumping at the same time. Swapping weapons can be your 3rd button since you don't need to really press it that often.
In my opinion, I like dbuttons for fighting games. I never make any accidental inputs. I like this controller you reviewed too, although I switched to the new sn30pro that just got released. The one with the handles. I'm using that more than my pro controller
I've been using 8bitdo's GBros adaptor and an official controller from the SNES Mini, and it works like a dream for Mario Maker and Street Fighter. I'm interested in the M30 too, but I'd likely only use it for games I associated with the Mega Drive and Saturn. I never had the same preference for that d-pad over the NES and SNES one that many do, but I did grow up with the Mega Drive and I think it might be nice to play games like Sonic Mania with that controller.
did you get your m30 ? could you please tell me how the d-pad feels like ? Would appreciate to know which d-pad has better accuracy, either the sn30, pro 2 or m30... I was thinking about this model as well for Sonic-like games, even Mania but I have had mostly bad experiences with 10 or less chinese controllers because specifically the d-pad has one problem or another. Either it's too stiff, have to press harder in order to get in-game response, OR "ghost input" when pressing down or right and so then I get diagonal input in-game.
Thanks for sharing bud.
I really liked the Dpad on this controller, I just also really disliked the face buttons. If they just made the SN30 Pro 2 with this dpad, that'd be the perfect controller for me.
I use this for GG xrd rev2. I’m still trying to get used to arcade stick but this controller just feels so comfortable to use in fighters.
Great video. Looks like an awesome controller 👍🏻
The SN30 Pro+ is worth the price and worthy as a your permanent go to. I'm selling one of Nintendo Pro Controllers because of it. I have too many controllers lol
@Martin Schmidt dang!!!! You've got me beat lol. I'm capping myself at 10.
SN30 dpad is just average, don't know why people rave about it
When it comes to pads everyone is different, there isn't going to be a one all be all pad for all players. It's great there have been so many options coming out of late, 8bitdo, retrobit, powerA, Razer if you like overpaying, hori still doing it's thing.
m30 is my preferred fightpad, but I have also found success with retrobits new usb saturn pads.
i feel like this controller would be great for contra, being able to aim accurately without accidental diagonals would be great
The M30 really is a great controller for the most part.. however it has issues with 360 motions. I have 2 of these and If you main 'Gief or Hugo look elsewhere. The Hori Fighting commander has a much better dpad imho.
that dpad hurts my thumb in games with circle type motions so i wish i could have the hori button placement then the m30 pad, that would be the best controller ever!
As you see in in the other comments too, 8BitDo has a very great fanbase. I use the SN 30 pro Game Boy edition at my computer, it is my favorite controller there.
@Robin But it is less of a Super Nintendo controller! :)
Really I woud have bought without the grips anyway, I usually play retro or retro-style games with that.
@Robin what about his pads? I wonder How hes going to be in sfv
I have the 8bitdo NES N30, honestly the best D pad I ever tried. Now I want to try this.
Did you got It? Recommend It? Wanna play sfv with that
thanks for the suggestion.
I've been using the SN and G Classic editions of the SN30 Pro + with Mortal Kombat 11 and the new Samurai Shodown. If you're going to play fighting games, I'd suggest the G Classic edition, its d-pad is less hard on your thumb, it actually feels kind of slippery. Certain characters in Mortal Kombat 11 have combo strings that require you to slide your thumb rapidly from one button to another (ex: Liu Kang's X, Y, X, Y), if you just press them regularly, the string isn't going to come out, it's definitely much easier to do on the G Classic because X and Y are convex.
I did struggle with both d-pads when trying to perform super special moves consistently in the new Samurai Shodown, you have to be extremely precise with the inputs ( ➡️↘️⬇️↙️⬅️➡️ B + A) . The M30 still has the best d-pad and is the controller I'd recommend if you want to play fighters that have a lot of circle motion inputs like Samurai Shodown, The King Of Fighters and Guilty Gear.
M30 is the best controller DPAD I have ever used. A close second is the GAMEBOY STYLE VERSION of the SN30 Pro+ (and probably the SN30 Pro 2 GameBoy Edition)
The GameBoy had a really good dpad so naturally the GameBoy version of the 8BITDO controllers have great pads. I am typically a fan of nintendo style dpads because I find that the M30 style dpads are usually not the best but when they do it right it’s super good.
Best DPAD list
1. GameBoy Advace SP
2. M30
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3. SN30 Pro+ GameBoy Edition
4. Sega Genesis
5. Super NES / N64
6. Original NES
You can’t go wrong with any of these DPADS!
With regards to dashing on Megaman X games, I use the R button (or any shoulder button) because it feels easier that way for me.
Actually Sega Saturn controller had shoulder buttons, and this one looks quite similar to the Sega Saturn (japan model) controller.
thank you for this. ordered on amazon!!!
3:44 the megadrive didn't, but the Saturn did!
I have to say this was the video I was looking for!
I am trying to improve my skills on smash bro and I feel like I can play better with a dpad. Thxs. I subbed.
Didn't you use to start the video by making coffee first..? I missed that intro. :)
The fighting commander pad has the same size buttons
Great review. I'm curious about these and am considering to make my 90's style third person shooter support these to give it a maximum 90's feel.
Could you perhaps review Retro Bit's new Saturn controller for Switch and PC?
For fighting games that uses 6 buttons for attacks, I would hold the controller with my left hand and have my other hand press them like an arcade stick. For Mega Man X I would map the dash button to the left shoulder button and keep the buster and jump the same place as before.
I don't know if you read my comment on your last video when i commented about this controller but im gonna assume you did and im really happy you are enjoying this amazing controller, its really nice for when i cant carry my arcade, remember to update the firmware you win several new customization options, mine came with 1.0 and it was really messed but now its really customizable. And if you play on mobile there is a official clip for your phone and thats also pretty cool to play some old fighting games in emulators
the button design for you so you can pivot while holding the buttons, if you can't manage that you must be crap
my ideal pad for fighting games would be a madcatz d pad, dualshock 4 buttons, and hori fighting commander triggers.
i always look forward to your videos man ! if you happen to play monster hunter on pc id love to join you ;D
Why don't you switch dash to a shoulder button? It's so much easier that way.
Yay! 8Bitdo are great... Got 2 FC30 Pros (i messed up the order and bought 2 by mistake), but I regret nothing... Great, comfortable stylish gamepad.
Have you tried purchasing the Titan One? It is a USB Plug in that works for recording macros, doing turbo, etc, but it also allows for PS4 / Xbox controllers to be plugged on other devices.
I am currently using my Hori Gamepad for PS4 on my Switch and it works perfectly.
8-bit do just dropped a new controller you should try it out
What Control
I looked up whether there was a more Dualshock-like controller for the Switch after posting my comment on your previous vid, and found out about the 8-Bit Do controllers. I was actually going to suggest the one that's more SNES-like as it also comes with two analog sticks laid out in a Dualschock-like manner. Now I think I'll suggest that by virtue of it having more standard face buttons. As far as I know it contains the same D-Pad, just the button layout will be different.
How is this with Street Fighter 6, if you play Dhalsim. For his Teleport you need to use 3 buttons at the same time.
I swear that imitates a Saturn controller
this one is to replicate sega genesis version, they have a saturn version
You know we all buy these 8bitdo stuff for the aesthetics.
Well if it actually works, thats a good thing.
Love your videos keep up the good work!!
I hope anybody can help me on this bud, is there some way to get share parts for this M30 controller ? I found there're available for SN30 pro or Pro 2 but not this one. Would appreciate the help.
Looks great! Have you tried it in MK11?
Free floating dpads are by far the best
For mega man x i would suggest that you try setting dash to a shoulder button and set cylce left and right to the other face buttons that aren't jump and shoot.
11:40 That's not the arcade layout. C is where Heavy Punch is, while Partner is where Heavy Kick is.
Hori Pokken Tournament pad is also super good for retro games. Quality DPad and buttons
interesting! another one i want to try now
It also connects to the PC and for some reason, I tested and saw you can use it on the PS4 and it works as a "Legacy controller" for games that support legacy controllers like SFV. There's also the benefit of it being wired so consistent response times, easy to connect it, etc.
Will you be reviewing the Hori Switch Pad Pro Daemon X Machina Joy-Cons when they release?
Ain't nothing better than that pro controller man
Best review. Thank you!
I know you said you recommend this controller for people who play fighting games but from a person that plays on an Xbox Elite controller d-pad would this be a good replacement? I mainly play dragon ball fighterz.
I picked up Mario Maker 2 recently and I’m surprised you want a d-pad over 4 separate buttons. I wouldn’t want accidental diagonal inputs while platforming or creating.
did you manage to get any of these 8bitdo controllers ? I actually had several times this issue of diagonal input iin-game but with 10 or less dollars chinese controllers, almost my whole life. I would just want to know if may happen the same with those controllers here. My biggest concern is getting proper input from directional keys and if possible, getting share parts like the conductive rubber for d-pad in the future.
The Sega Saturn pad was considered a good dpad for fighting games. Maybe there's a similar one for the Switch.
retrobit is going to release a replica sooner for pc i believe, i don't know if bluetooth as well
@@ivansotelo4622 wired or bust
At beginning of video, predicting it doesn't do great. I've thought all the 8bitdo dpads were absolute garbage even the overhyped SN30Pro+.
It's really rough for doing slingshot motions in fighting games
looks like a good candidate for a padhack as long as it's common ground.
I have the 8bitdo Super Nintendo Pro Controller and it's so nice to use on the Switch and PC.
And i will buy the 8bitdo NES Pro Controller too.
8bitdo's other switch controllers you will really love. Especially, if you are looking for decent D-pads.
Is there any lag on the control? Didn’t see you do that test on the fighting games. Also do you have to set it up every time you play?
Why would you add a 'glass' sound to something made of plastic? That doesn't make sense.
I think you can map the controls in the options of each game in the Megaman X legacy collection.
it's based off the Saturn 2 dpad or the Japanese Saturn dpad, of course it's going to be good.
This controller comes with the retro console that has the 50 built in games including SF2 so that's where I've seen it.
I’m pretty sure you can remap the buttons inside the options in mega man itself
I just ordered the adapter for the nes and snes classic controllers but this one is on my list
Did u got It?
Can u do circular motions zangief 100% consistent with it?
Ty
see him play megaman his thumb is holding a and and still can manage to press x or b
I got the same Hori pad since a Pro Controller is very expensive, but man is it crap. The only issue I have with the Pro is that D-Pad issue of rolling up and down.
Don't forget you can switch A and B by holding Start and down for like 5 seconds. I like it better for Link's Awakening.
Its on the video
@@mariowayner2965 Yeah but don't forget.
Can you review the SN30 Pro's D-Pad? Could be in a 2 in one video and review the SN30 Pro Plus at the same time
I want this for my dreamcast🥺
This controller has been sitting in my amazon cart for a few weeks now. I think I've been convinced to buy it.
It's a really good pad. It really shines in Tekken especially. The only down side is that the pad is a bit noisy but that can be fixed by loosening the screws in the dpad but that's optional.
MrSamuelAdam4 what about dragon ball fighterz?
Awesome! I always love those controller reviews videos
You could try the snes 8bitdo controller! that could help since the layout of the face buttons are more what you're used to
though i dont know if the d-pad there is as good as the one you got there
Another one I've seen being recommended and that I ordered because I wanna try too is the Hori Pokken Pad! (the ones for wii u and for the the switch are basically the exact same)
In the wii u it only worked with pokken, but on the switch it works with every game that doesnt need sticks or motion controls. I'm getting one because I heard the D-Pad is really good.
It's wired though! I dunno, you could like it, and it's pretty cheap, like 20 bucks
Yeah I’ll probably try the SNES ones too :) wasn’t convinced I’d like the dpad on the SNES ones but I’ve come this far, may as well try a few more!
@@NihongoGamer what was The problem with this m30?
It looked so good, charge and shoto characters can be played with him or not? Ty
do you know if this Hori Pokken Pad is still available somewhere ? i could not find it on amazon for PC. Thanks for the suggestion.
Noooooo, this controler felt GREAT but after a couple days the dpad became kinda sticky (didnt come even close to any liquid). The kind of stickyness that you find on cheap controlers... I was very disapointed as 8bitdo controlers are usualy very well made.
I hope someday, a controller with vita quality dpad will come to existence. for now i am getting this.
I got one of this but it can not connect to the ns after one week (probably because it fell off from my bed once). I have to return it. it makes me feel so sad.
I know this is probably a solid no but im new to switch so could i remap it and use it for smash ult
Do the C and Z buttons function as the C and Z button in Genesis games? Have you tried it with "Sega Genesis Classics"?
Where do you get this tshirt?Its look so cool!
You can map all the mega man x controls in the options menu, also dash with R, no one dashes with face buttons lol
From my experience, 8bitdo dpads are subpar. The SF30 original and the SN30 Pro Gameboy version have pivots, but are not flush against the pcb. Meaning they will favor diagonal directions which is annoying. They aesthetically look like SNES dpads, but do not function the same.
My recommendation: get a Magic NS adapter and use a PS4 controller.
I have the adapter and honestly yeah, I might just stick with the DualShock 4 lol the search continues...
It's like Saturn Controller
Can this work as a wired controller by connecting it with the wire?
Have you tried the snes30 by the same company? It looks really nice with the NES/SNES dpad
yo not only on the switch it works on pc as well as blue tooth. not only usb
Does it work on ps4/ps3 also?
Do the SN30 Pro next
wouldn't it be better to be able to map charge to one of the shoulder buttons instead?
Bruh, just put the dash button in the shoulder buttons.
Did you just try to slide a joycon from the bottom when you put the other one from the top? 0:31
You should try the sn30 pro+ , would like to know what you think about it
Try the 8bitDo super nintendo looking controller that also has thumbsticks. Heard the most recent one was awesome.
I hated 8bitdo products since I bought NES30 Pro and SN30 Pro only to be thoroughly disappointed of their dpad quality. Precision input was simply impossible with them, I played STG and Tetris games and the gamepads were the worst ones to go with.
I hear people saying M30 dpad is really improved since these ones, but recovering the lost faith would be not so easy.
Why do I keep buying new controllers. Haha thats the question I ask myself everytime
10:54 good for Guy combo
Give a try the retro-bit sega saturn usb pad licensed by Sega, the later revisions supports switch if I'm not mistaken