I found a Prototype Xbox Controller

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Комментарии • 735

  • @forever-and-a-day2043
    @forever-and-a-day2043 5 дней назад +167

    if the breakout board shows up as USB UART then you can likely get a shell on it with Putty.

    • @JonBringus
      @JonBringus  5 дней назад +55

      I actually ended up doing that and there was some interesting output:
      BEAMAll sectors are unprotected.
      Calibration data found - loading.
      Left Trigger data = 2084, 3652
      Right Trigger data = 462, 2310
      Left Thumbstick Horizontal data = 567, 1978, 2125, 3466
      Left Thumbstick Vertical data = 802, 1967, 2100, 3320
      Right Thumbstick Horizontal data = 606, 1953, 2105, 3397
      Right Thumbstick Vertical data = 800, 2081, 2159, 3463
      Flash ID is: 545264912.
      Flash contains 0 sequences - Loading
      All RAM sectors are unprotected.

    • @undefinedCat
      @undefinedCat 4 дня назад +12

      @@JonBringus terminal from sci-fi movie ahh output

    • @steveng7702
      @steveng7702 3 дня назад +4

      Did you ever see the videos where someone would name their gamertag, "XboxTurnOff"?
      Lol they would send them voice messages and in game chat, the recipient would eventually say his gamertag and it'd turn the system off LOLOL.
      ​@JonBringus

    • @jj_0
      @jj_0 2 дня назад

      Interesting. If there are some commands hidden, you might be able to turn on the rumble in triggers.

    • @ken14850
      @ken14850 12 часов назад

      @@JonBringus you try the og xbox ? looks closer to the controller s makes sense the 1.0 xbox would be used to make the 360.

  • @poyp
    @poyp 10 дней назад +2371

    No home button because you were obviously supposed to shout ”XBOX HOME” into the Kinect to open the menu.

    • @LakoIsFun
      @LakoIsFun 10 дней назад +221

      Honestly believe it. I mean this is the same Microsoft who removed the start button because there was one on the touchscreen/keyboard.

    • @jamesquinley
      @jamesquinley 10 дней назад +25

      To be fair, they probably based part of this design on the og xbox s controller, which has no home button.

    • @someguy4957
      @someguy4957 10 дней назад +21

      @@jamesquinley except the controller was from 2012 so an xbox one proto controller

    • @babayaga7434
      @babayaga7434 10 дней назад +20

      Going off of how hard they pushed the Xbone and Kinect as one, you might be right

    • @LoremIpsum1919
      @LoremIpsum1919 9 дней назад +6

      The Xbox 360 Kinect didn't release until 2010

  • @SkylarWhite
    @SkylarWhite 8 дней назад +293

    It's a "kiosk controller" that is used for kiosks at trade shows (E3/GamesCom/etc) or play testing.
    It is not a prototype. Proto controllers have white guide buttons and in some cases have black and white buttons like the OG Xbox controller (from when they just jammed xbox controllers into new molds during early devlopment days.)
    The play button is removed so you can't invoke the Dash and so that the clamp that holds it in place (it clamps where the home button would be.) This is also why it appears to be a final product, you need to have FCC clearence to use these in public envrionments, like a show kiosk.
    The ridge on the back is to help secure that clamp.
    The start and select buttons are moved to allow for the clamp to fit.
    The USB part on the back is a sidecar and is used for power and telemetry. The drivers are in the XDK and this would be plugged into a computer. You could also use it to pass commands to the console, so say you had a "Reset kiosk" script that ran every hour during a trade show. Instead of hanving a handler go to each kiosk and press the magic button combo, you could just issue the reset script. Much more seemless. Also great for automation, because there is no Guide buttoin. Pressing the Guide button during an automated run would be catastophic and could do some pretty random things to your dev/test kit.
    When one of these is used properly it can be hooked up to an input display so during a play test you can record the button inputs out side of the game (great for no-debug builds.)
    I wouldn't be surprised if it was used at one of the MS Test centers run by Keywords, as they would have run a lot of the playtests in Europe during the 360 days.
    This was not a Kintect controller as people claim.
    All consumer facing 360 controllers required a home button, even if it was being used for single purpose like Kintect. The "XRs" (Xbox Requirements) for hardware were very, very clear about. The Guide button is also required under the branding guide, as it's key branding to any Xbox controller device.
    Keep in mind this controller is also from the period of time that MS thought the 360 and One were going to exist together, so they were also experimenting with internal hardware that could work on either machine.

    • @GreenShark4
      @GreenShark4 7 дней назад +21

      This should be pinned

    • @JonBringus
      @JonBringus  7 дней назад +72

      Oh now that's interesting. I wonder if there are any images of this thing deployed at a trade show kiosk or something similar

    • @SkylarWhite
      @SkylarWhite 7 дней назад

      ​@@JonBringus Edit - I found this as well, there is an article on Venture beat that details a version of this controller shell that was being used for smell testing as well. Google destructoid theres a prototype xbox one controller that emits scents. So it sounds like MS was using these in a bunch of applications where a "engineer" controller was more valuable than a retail controller.

    • @SkylarWhite
      @SkylarWhite 7 дней назад

      @@JonBringus ​ @JonBringus I DID just find an article claiming these were originally prototype smell controllers, as well.
      Google destructoid theres-a-prototype-xbox-one-controller-that-emits-scents - since I can't add a link
      It has the grey/black buttons. So it seems they were using these for many strange shennignans.

    • @SkylarWhite
      @SkylarWhite 7 дней назад

      @@JonBringus My previous post was deleted, but I found an article that has an example of one of these being used as smell emitting prototype. You can find it by looking for "smell emitting xbox one controller prototype" The controller is slightly different, but it sounds like these shells were used in a bunch of different applications.
      So my question is now is, did you smell it?

  • @lozo1269
    @lozo1269 10 дней назад +607

    0:26 FYI, what’s written under SAMSUNG is “Commemoration of your visit.” in Korean.

    • @Goncha-l4s
      @Goncha-l4s 9 дней назад +31

      so someone grabbed that as a souvenir

    • @r0bo804
      @r0bo804 8 дней назад

      ​@@Goncha-l4s well I mean it was free

    • @MrYerak5
      @MrYerak5 8 дней назад

      I'll take one ​@@Goncha-l4s

    • @Djbiohazard1991
      @Djbiohazard1991 7 дней назад +12

      @@Goncha-l4s Well, yes, but “Commemoration of your visit.” conveys you're supposed to take it home. :')

  • @michael80126
    @michael80126 10 дней назад +787

    Please, Please! Call "Modern Vintage Gamer" im pretty sure that he's interested in this Controller as well and probably able to help you out!

  • @JessicaFEREM
    @JessicaFEREM 10 дней назад +299

    the original xbox was a USB controller, it just had a proprietary connector on it for some reason. the BUS is just USB.

    • @awesomeferret
      @awesomeferret 10 дней назад +22

      So was the Xbox 360 controller (and this is a video about 360 controllers). On the 360, it s literally a USB gamepad. That's back from a short time in Microsoft history when they realized that making a product more versatile increases it's value).

    • @SixtySixHundred-1982
      @SixtySixHundred-1982 9 дней назад +12

      Another person posting things I now don't need to.
      The ports on the OG Xbox were just USB 1.1 ports with a proprietary connector. Literally all you needed to do was cut the cable and attach a male USB port and they could be used on PC. With custom drivers of course, but a better way was if you took the OG Xbox breakaway cable, spliced a female USB port on it would then give you standard, albeit slow, USB ports on the Xbox. Perfect for the modding scene as they would read select flash drives as memory cards which you could load corrupted/modified save files to and load them in game. That's the reason Splinter Cell is likely the best selling OG Xbox game! Done that a few hundred times at this point!

    • @JamesTK
      @JamesTK 9 дней назад +5

      @@SixtySixHundred-1982my og Xbox has a USB hub soldered to one of the control ports with ports ghettod on the back. Young me was lit

    • @SixtySixHundred-1982
      @SixtySixHundred-1982 9 дней назад +3

      @@JamesTK I'll second that! I still mod the occasional OG Xbox and may even install something like that next time. Good thinking. 👍

    • @JamesTK
      @JamesTK 9 дней назад +2

      @@SixtySixHundred-1982can't use that port in multiplayer games though... It doesn't like running controllers through a hub

  • @itsal_x0
    @itsal_x0 9 дней назад +206

    This is a prototype wireless controller that was meant to work with the Kinect (Model 1540 being the Console, Model 1520 being the Kinect and Model 1530 being the controller). It has no home button as it uses the Kinect for voice commands. This controller is completely wireless, and only used the input for power.

    • @KevDoy
      @KevDoy 6 дней назад +4

      Got any additional material?

  • @McBagelGaming
    @McBagelGaming 10 дней назад +309

    Your frustration over the plug n play charge kit not working was me 14 years ago. WHY. WHY CAN'T IT JUST WORK. Also nice to see you got a USB mod working on an OG Xbox controller. I tried that as a kid but I couldn't get any drivers for it.

    • @JonBringus
      @JonBringus  10 дней назад +102

      Even today the drivers for the og Xbox controller are all screwed up in Windows after Windows 7

    • @GoodGamesBadLaptop
      @GoodGamesBadLaptop 10 дней назад +28

      @@JonBringus I also had this issue as a teenager lol, I'm pretty sure the issue is that the Play and Charge Kit doesn't actually transmit data, probably just power. Because back on W7 I did get it to show up as an Xbox 360 Play & Charge Kit, but I'm pretty sure that 's just because the charger itself is a device, but it doesn't transmit any controller inputs over that connection

    • @wwooaahh
      @wwooaahh 10 дней назад +8

      @@JonBringusI managed to somehow get the play & charge kit to read and install drivers on windows 11, but it only sends power. Sucks that it doesn’t work as an adapter to use the 360 controller on pc while still charging it.

    • @reptarien
      @reptarien 10 дней назад +3

      I'm pretty sure not even the normal Xbox 360 drivers work anymore. I used to use xbox 360 wireless guitar controllers using an adapter that only worked with the first driver in that list and it doesn't work anymore I don't think :/

    • @jarnobot
      @jarnobot 10 дней назад +5

      @@JonBringus Do they work under Linux? I've 2 old 360 controllers laying around and this sounds like a fun project to add to my ever-increasing list of projects that I will never actually do.

  • @AngryBirdsFanboy06
    @AngryBirdsFanboy06 9 дней назад +64

    0:15 As a Czech Republic Civilian myself, im proud of this Xbox Prototype Controller being associated with our country.

    • @Green-hat-0
      @Green-hat-0 8 дней назад +4

      As a Samsung letter opener citizen myself, I am honored to be opening this package that is associated with the Czech Republic that is associated with the Xbox prototype controller *.*

    • @Ajnoscz
      @Ajnoscz 8 дней назад +1

      I'm so proud to be in Czechia ❤

    • @ladislavp09
      @ladislavp09 8 дней назад +1

      Čechy voleee. 🤪

    • @AngryBirdsFanboy06
      @AngryBirdsFanboy06 8 дней назад

      No jo 😅

    • @czechvirusS
      @czechvirusS 8 дней назад

      Oh. You mean chechnia? (Jen si hraju na Američana xD)

  • @Gogoseit
    @Gogoseit 10 дней назад +80

    4:30 the reason xbox 360 controllers dont work with the play and charge kit is because even when using the play and charge kit the controller is communicating wirelessly, the cable only transmits identifer data about the controller, and not the actual button presses. if you want to use a wireless xbox 360 controller on a pc you need a dongle.

    • @vulcanitu2578
      @vulcanitu2578 10 дней назад +8

      And now the original dongles got expensive

    • @NipplesTheEnchilada2323
      @NipplesTheEnchilada2323 10 дней назад

      @@vulcanitu2578 There are cheap third party knock off ones you can get now, so there is that.

    • @awatkins06
      @awatkins06 10 дней назад +1

      Whats hilarious is that at launch of the 360 the playncharge kit would work wired on a pc but the drivers changed when they launched the wireless adapter

    • @DerpyChap
      @DerpyChap 9 дней назад +6

      @@awatkins06 I don't think that's true at all, wireless Xbox 360 controllers have always exclusively communicated wirelessly, they're simply not configured to transmit input data over USB. They also do not support firmware updates, so there would've been no way to disable this functionality.

    • @firuis1
      @firuis1 9 дней назад +1

      @@vulcanitu2578 tbf you can use 3rd party ones. ive been using one for like 8 years and its been fine, only problem is windows refusing to save the driver settings for it -.-

  • @apolocoke3244
    @apolocoke3244 10 дней назад +109

    I’ve been dealing with depression lately, both the main channel and this one make my days better, thank you John, keep it up.

    • @zaprowsdower3911
      @zaprowsdower3911 10 дней назад +3

      Probably should get off line then that only makes it worse.

    • @apolocoke3244
      @apolocoke3244 10 дней назад

      Ill try to do it, thanks c:

    • @Bush_Dog777
      @Bush_Dog777 10 дней назад

      ​@@apolocoke3244get well soon dude

    • @bok..
      @bok.. 9 дней назад

      Yes If you can go for a nice walk in nature. Have some time with the earth, I find it grounding. Pay attention to birds and plants, etc.​@@apolocoke3244

    • @juhnenfels
      @juhnenfels 9 дней назад +2

      go for them gains mate

  • @bea3558
    @bea3558 10 дней назад +60

    this entire video was me as a kid trying to get motionjoy to work with my ps3 controller in 2010, we've come a long way from then.

    • @kalkalico
      @kalkalico 10 дней назад +5

      oh my god that was the WORST
      it was so finnicky and i got it to work maybe twice ever out of sheer luck and never again

    • @PuroKross
      @PuroKross 9 дней назад

      or trying the tons of knockoff applications like Joy2Key

    • @jamesalexander5559
      @jamesalexander5559 7 дней назад +3

      You've awakened some deep seated trauma. Xinput become standardized and replacing Dinput, DS4 Windows not sucking, and Steam controller mapping are all godsends.

    • @Psycheux_
      @Psycheux_ 2 дня назад

      Jesus you made me feel old with this...
      those were the days...
      god MotionJoy SUCKED xD

    • @miyabwah
      @miyabwah 2 дня назад +1

      we went from ps3 controllers Barely Functioning on Windows to PC ports of PlayStation exclusives with native PlayStation controller support 😁

  • @senPuff
    @senPuff 10 дней назад +208

    Wish I had a prototype of you, Mr. Bringus.

    • @DeadReckon
      @DeadReckon 10 дней назад +24

      That would be terrifying and potentially very dangerous. We do not need a glitchy Bringus.

    • @RenX_XAmamiya
      @RenX_XAmamiya 10 дней назад +3

      @@DeadReckon i agree

    • @exturkconner
      @exturkconner 10 дней назад +3

      Wouldn't that be a tissue his dad used to clean up after...well you know?

    • @DeadReckon
      @DeadReckon 10 дней назад +1

      @@exturkconner No, Bringus was made in a lab

    • @exturkconner
      @exturkconner 10 дней назад +3

      @@DeadReckon You can pop one out in a lab I assure you.

  • @A_Hat17
    @A_Hat17 10 дней назад +31

    Samsung letter open is my new favorite Bringus character

  • @TheDoomguy3232
    @TheDoomguy3232 10 дней назад +16

    12:28 I see you Wii U USB Helper. I know what you are Jon Bringus...

  • @Illusca
    @Illusca 10 дней назад +10

    i love the casual "oh yeah let me try this on the ol' dev kit i have lying around" lmao. really do be the realm of interesting hardware over there

  • @ReadMyNameThanks
    @ReadMyNameThanks 10 дней назад +18

    The Xbox One absolutely had rumble triggers. No one used them but they were there

    • @Fusion05
      @Fusion05 9 дней назад +5

      Forza horizon did

    • @6ch6ris6
      @6ch6ris6 2 дня назад

      @@Fusion05 and the Mad Max game. which is great, but I have it for steam and it has no support for the haptic triggers there :(
      overall such a cool evolution of the trigger. never understood why developers wouldn't use it.

    • @Fusion05
      @Fusion05 2 дня назад

      @@6ch6ris6 yeah it was actually really neat. Sony's dualsense is neat as well, but it's a lot heavier. Xbox took the balanced and better approach. Sadly that's the only big win I give Microsoft in recent memory.

    • @Psythik
      @Psythik День назад

      Some PC games use them (like Halo MCC) but it's very rare. The first time I played a game that used them, it scared the hell out of me (I was using a budget controller and didn't think they had them; that's how uncommon support for them is). Also they have a tendency to tickle your fingers. It would be better if they were resistive triggers instead. Would be a *game-changer* for racing sims, cause you would be able to actually feel the brake pedal.

    • @6ch6ris6
      @6ch6ris6 20 часов назад

      @@Psythik wtf i played halo mcc on steam and didnt notice any of it.

  • @AuroraNemoia
    @AuroraNemoia 10 дней назад +85

    All Xbox 360 wireless controllers are ONLY wireless. The Play and Charge cable is a misnomer because the cable only transfers power. To use wireless Xbox 360 controllers on PC, you must use a wireless controller adapter. It's a little white puck thing. They're like 30 dollars on ebay.

    • @horacegentleman3296
      @horacegentleman3296 10 дней назад +24

      I made a wireless adapter by ripping the wireless receiver out of a red ringed 360 and doing some soldering.

    • @leatherhidegaming
      @leatherhidegaming 9 дней назад +8

      There must be data going through that cable in order for a PC to recognise that it's the charging adapter. It just won't let you use it to play games with.

    • @JamesTK
      @JamesTK 9 дней назад +5

      @@leatherhidegamingyeah, there's drivers that pop up saying play and charge... Which only show up when plugged into the controller. I think there may have been smarts to auto connect to the PC dongle

    • @dunny
      @dunny 9 дней назад +2

      @@JamesTK yeah you're right, the cable does automatically sync a connected controller to a connected 360 PC dongle.

    • @colinstech6601
      @colinstech6601 9 дней назад +2

      I have a wired one

  • @albert07028k
    @albert07028k 10 дней назад +31

    0:37 Samsung letter opener

    • @Dunethedumbass
      @Dunethedumbass 10 дней назад

      letter onpener moment

    • @baoquoc3710
      @baoquoc3710 9 дней назад +5

      SMASNUG*, have to be in the DankPods spirit

    • @angw3l
      @angw3l 9 дней назад

      thanks

  • @FoxNoitre10
    @FoxNoitre10 10 дней назад +56

    7:00 android also has native support for ps3 controllers. Most other devices dont

    • @MrSeatbelt
      @MrSeatbelt 10 дней назад +17

      linux kernel my beloved

    • @FoxNoitre10
      @FoxNoitre10 10 дней назад +6

      @@MrSeatbelt fr

    • @trekkie1701e
      @trekkie1701e 10 дней назад +1

      I use a PS4 controller for emulators on my galaxy tab, it's a great combo.

    • @FoxNoitre10
      @FoxNoitre10 10 дней назад +1

      @@trekkie1701e ps4 has native windows support.

    • @gllwsclbrtr
      @gllwsclbrtr 10 дней назад +3

      @@FoxNoitre10 no

  • @ozzybozzer
    @ozzybozzer 10 дней назад +51

    btw the original xbox controller probably works on the phone because it's an xinput device, which is basically a universal language for game controllers
    and by universal, I of course mean everyone except sony and nintendo

    • @ozzybozzer
      @ozzybozzer 10 дней назад +1

      this doesnt explain why the prototype doesnt work so ignore me, actually

    • @Bartho_85
      @Bartho_85 10 дней назад +1

      Joy-cons work on Android tho, its just bluetooth

    • @dxtremecaliber
      @dxtremecaliber 10 дней назад +2

      @@Bartho_85also DS4 and DualSense

    • @user-nl4jm2cw1r
      @user-nl4jm2cw1r 9 дней назад +4

      But isn't xinput was invented with the Xbox 360 and the OG controller is dinput?

    • @alfo2804
      @alfo2804 9 дней назад +4

      Xinput sucks balls because it's designed to only support the Xbox Controller, which itself sucks balls because its functionality is still stuck in 2005. And it's actually a step backwards from the 2003 original because it lacks the black and white buttons.
      It's the equivalent of if the original Xbox launched with a controller that matched functionality with the NES controller - no wonder Sony and Nintendo want to do things differently.
      Luckily, as usual, Valve cleaned up Microsoft's mess, and Steam Input makes it all work fine.

  • @TheMirkoQuelloVero
    @TheMirkoQuelloVero 9 дней назад +4

    As an Italian, the thing you said is partially true. We don’t give plastic bags to children, they take them from us…

  • @ALittleBitOfGay
    @ALittleBitOfGay 10 дней назад +27

    Just logged onto RUclips, perfect timing!

  • @thenotwaluigi
    @thenotwaluigi 9 дней назад +4

    The play and charge kit port was designed to charge the battery and the driver in windows is designed to control the power delivery

  • @jeremyc4786
    @jeremyc4786 10 дней назад +7

    You're the type of person that could probably get my Sega Genesis 6 button arcade stick to work on the computer. It has a USB cable, but it's read as a keyboard and only a couple buttons actually type anything.

    • @devnol
      @devnol 9 дней назад

      they don't need to type any characters as long as they send valid keyboard keycodes you can probably still use them for some emulators

  • @that_exact_Katie
    @that_exact_Katie 10 дней назад +7

    4:50 what about plugging it into linux powered ps4?

    • @IDontModWTFz
      @IDontModWTFz 9 дней назад

      It still works on pc you just need neighbourhood, they never released the drivers but they actually had them with the 360 xdk

    • @pablollamasaguilar4975
      @pablollamasaguilar4975 8 дней назад

      PS4 and PS5 operating systems are BSD

  • @TheBcoolGuy
    @TheBcoolGuy 10 дней назад +9

    I was gonna say the shape reminded me of the Xbox One controller.

  • @WalterMan
    @WalterMan 10 дней назад +8

    7:22 I pretty sure the original Xbox controller is just a usb controller with a fancy connector on it. So nothing fancy with Android it just sees it as an usb gamepad. Heck I’m sure it would even work on an iPhone.

    • @Eta_Hoyimi
      @Eta_Hoyimi 7 дней назад

      Absolutely, you could even take the plug end of a controller cable and splice a female usb onto it to connect mass storage, keyboards or other devices

  • @leonius
    @leonius 9 дней назад +3

    The "play and charge kit" driver in windows is just so that windows can recognize it and allow the correct amount of voltage or something like that to be delivered to the controller, it was never designed to be used to input commands through the cable, that's at least what I could gather, the "plug and play kit" (in some parts of the world this is the name used) is the same thing, only for energy and nothing more, the kit works this way on the 360 as well
    So that's why it only connects wirelesly to the Xbox and that wireless dongle they used

  • @RhodderzX
    @RhodderzX 8 дней назад +1

    The 2012 tag on the driver might be because the device ID was reused for the xbox one which is commonly done for prototypes and dev hardware

  • @canonicalactiontoad
    @canonicalactiontoad 10 дней назад +2

    Now we won't ever see Prototype being played with a prototype!

  • @Susanna-oo2qd
    @Susanna-oo2qd 9 дней назад +3

    dude uggghhhh you just awakened an ancient memory of 10 year old me trying to plug my wireless xbox controller into my moms laptop to play gang beasts and it never worked

  • @randomcrap7682
    @randomcrap7682 10 дней назад +15

    "wait until the end to clear any misinformation" _proceeds to talk about none of that at the end_

    • @kassarc16
      @kassarc16 9 дней назад +7

      He found out it was an Xbone prototype, not a 360 as he first thought.

  • @greenprotag
    @greenprotag 10 дней назад +8

    The 360 controllers with play and charge were wireless still. That cable was for charging only. There may be some kind of data transmitted that tells the PC it's a play and charge cable, but the windows play and charge "Kit" included a wireless dongle that was basically a USB version of the controller radio in the console. You need the puck to make wireless 360 controllers work.

    • @Motwera
      @Motwera 10 дней назад

      I remember making that exact same mistake, thank god for Bluetooth controllers being standard

    • @jarydm87
      @jarydm87 9 дней назад

      The hard wired controllers were also wireless - they just needed to be plugged in for power since they didnt have a battery.

    • @shrub9677
      @shrub9677 9 дней назад

      @@jarydm87 yeah i dont think thats how that works at all

    • @jarydm87
      @jarydm87 9 дней назад

      @@shrub9677 you would think so

    • @shrub9677
      @shrub9677 9 дней назад +1

      @@jarydm87 if that were true the controllers wouldnt work on computers that dont have the right software drivers to read a wireless xbox controller, they needed to make the adapter for a reason

  • @Psythik
    @Psythik День назад

    5:32 "I didn't even have a 360 as a kid". Good god, I'm old. I was almost done with high school by the time the 360 came out, and I'm only in my 30s!

  • @plcraig510
    @plcraig510 10 дней назад +3

    Bringus is such a great RUclipsr I really appreciate the work that he puts in his videos . Keep up the great work!

  • @JustRobertCZE
    @JustRobertCZE 9 дней назад +3

    as a czech citizen, i was really flabbergaster when you said its from czech republic :D

  • @themetal2244
    @themetal2244 9 дней назад +2

    10:45 the chip next to the micro USB port looks like an FTDI chip for USB interfacing. The Micro USB port is likely there to interface with the MCU directly for debugging. Also MCU does just mean microcontroller

  • @AlexTenThousand
    @AlexTenThousand 10 дней назад +4

    I'm probably the sole Italian in your audience and I do have to admit that I was always kept away from plastic bags as a little kid

  • @lever4564
    @lever4564 10 дней назад +17

    Clicked off a sunny V2 video for this, and I don’t regret it :)

    • @user-ww9rh1qc3h
      @user-ww9rh1qc3h 10 дней назад +1

      !!!

    • @EnigmaticGentleman
      @EnigmaticGentleman 10 дней назад +11

      I mean I never regret clicking off of drama videos.

    • @Awesome_Nova
      @Awesome_Nova 8 дней назад

      ​@@EnigmaticGentleman Even by the standards of drama channels, SunnyV2 is shit

  • @dan_loeb
    @dan_loeb 10 дней назад +3

    the chipset has integrated bluetooth. it's possible it's a power tethered wireless prototype, so you need to power and then connect to it. however i doubt the specific early dev kits that it connects to are cheap or plentiful. pre xbox one s revision controllers didn't support Bluetooth to pc without a special dongle, so it's unlikely (but possible) it might show up as a Bluetooth controller.

  • @PercyPanleo
    @PercyPanleo 10 дней назад +2

    7:20 It's probably the normal XInput driver. IIRC with the original XBOX they used the USB protocol but had a custom port shape to avoid paying royalties to the USB Implementers Forum.

  • @bartat404
    @bartat404 10 дней назад +2

    UART = SERIAL That USB port is a serial connector. Should pull it up in a serial console

  • @user-ww9rh1qc3h
    @user-ww9rh1qc3h 10 дней назад +10

    we got stiffed with the bad timeline

  • @logic128
    @logic128 9 дней назад +2

    the mcu handles wireless but theres no battery (that i could see) so it could be worth plugging the usb in the top for power and using the sync button to connect to an xb1/pc/x360 over bluetooth or whatever tech xboxes use for controllers

  • @kamiien887
    @kamiien887 7 дней назад +2

    7:20 probably because your adapter uses xinput which is supported on almost all modern devices

  • @Toxicity1987
    @Toxicity1987 9 дней назад +1

    Its not Android Headquarters who added that driver, it is Linux Kernel Developers. The same guys who made Linux work on the Nintendo 64. A Android Dev just put in all the available gamepad drivers.

  • @medaminelmokni1840
    @medaminelmokni1840 9 дней назад +2

    There s a wireless adapter for Xbox 360 controllers, that cable you tried to use is just for charging and that s it, but there s a separate wireless receiver that with that exact driver will let you connect your controller wirelessly to your computer.

  • @bagy897
    @bagy897 8 дней назад +2

    4:36 donald trump jumpscare warning ⚠️

  • @1337GameDev
    @1337GameDev 9 дней назад +3

    7:30 - It's because the original xbox used the windows gamepad API for it's controllers -- as the original xbox was windows NT.
    So android supports windows controllers that are plug n play. No special driver needed.

  • @ram_stick_samurai
    @ram_stick_samurai 9 дней назад +2

    legit looks like the smaller duke and the normal xbox 360 controller had a child.

  • @Grimlo9ic
    @Grimlo9ic 5 дней назад

    The differences in the fit and finish, cleanliness, and newness of the controller parts makes me think some were sourced from older prototypes and used in this one.

  • @Martina.Hradilova
    @Martina.Hradilova 9 дней назад +6

    Great video! Keep up the good work

  • @yolopolotyur
    @yolopolotyur 9 дней назад +1

    looks like those 3rd party budget 360 controllers

  • @DE23
    @DE23 8 дней назад

    3:33 The way the music is timed implies that the Original Xbox Controller S is secretly Yoshi

  • @faeranne
    @faeranne 6 дней назад

    7:33 Fun fact, that original xbox controller will work on just about anything with usb support. A common misconception is that every device needs unique drivers, but a shocking number of things have *generic drivers*. The original xbox controller used the generic driver for gamepads because it was just generic usb over a funky plug. Some other common "generic devices" are flashdrives (Mass Storage Device), cameras (UVC), Audio devices, both mic and speaker (just called USB Audio Device), keyboards mice gamepads and other stuff like that (USB HID, or Human Interface Device). These all use a default standard along with a few bits of configuration data to tell the computer what features they support. Some modern Bioses even support gamepads for input because of this. That's right, you can edit bios settings with the classic duke controller.

  • @user-ks7yb2hj6g
    @user-ks7yb2hj6g 7 дней назад

    Holy moly, I really loved those triggers in that form into a Xbox One controller.
    The thing with the 360 wireless with the Play and Charge kit in PC is the receiver. You need the receiver if You want to use a 360 controller, even with the charge cable. It's just to sync, without press the sync button, just like syncing a PS3 or PS4 controller and charge the battery (If You put one).

  • @makeshiftsavant
    @makeshiftsavant 3 дня назад

    I can absolutely confirm that the blue sticker on the front is a legit Microsoft asset tag. This must have been tracked by Microsoft and used by an employee/contractor, or at least given to one (despite the laminate on the dpad, it still must have been in an employee's hand).

  • @PayterX
    @PayterX День назад

    Just so you know, it was not any android developer that included drivers for the original Xbox controller. Android runs the Linux kernel, which itself includes drivers for the original Xbox controller.
    EDIT: Also it would be nice to get this in the hands of somebody good with hardware hacking. Possibly the daughter board is not fully programmed, hence why it still shows up as a UART instead of something different. If it is fully working, they would also be able to create a driver for it. I’m available in Tampa area, no idea where you are located though.
    Lastly about the wireless controller on Windows, you need a wireless receiver for the computer to be able to receive the wireless signal from the controller. Even with the play and charge kit drivers. If you have a spare Xbox 360, you can take the faceplate off, and the front RF daughter board that plugs in to the main unit. Just like you soldered a USB cable on your Xbox controller, you solder a USB cable on that RF daughter board which you can find instructions online for. That will become your new Windows wireless Xbox 360 receiver, you just need to sync to it.

  • @LepidoliteMica
    @LepidoliteMica 3 дня назад

    7:03 As I understand it, this is because despite the strange plug shape, the original Xbox controller uses the basic Xinput format. You can even take a file to parts of the breakaway plug and connect one through an X360 USB breakaway cable.

  • @PloopChute
    @PloopChute 5 дней назад

    I can see by the previously clicked "Kia Heavy Industry" and "Samsung Aerospace Industries" links on the Wikipedia page that for the K9 Thunder that you fell into a Wikipedia hole. It happens every time I end up there. It's like the 6 degrees of seperation but instead of just people, its EVERYTHING. You could be looking up corn flakes and, through hyperlinks alone, somehow wind up on on a Ted Bundy page 10 minutes later. Its ridiculous, amazing, and I love it.

  • @brandonlee7382
    @brandonlee7382 8 дней назад

    That's really cool. Seems like one of the first prototypes. Maybe it was made so the developers can take advantage for the triggers.
    This obviously was nowhere near finished. I believe the home button was always gonna be a thing in the finale design. They made a video about how they got the final xbox one controller design and how much money they spent. Xbox One controller was very good

  • @DawnDashi
    @DawnDashi 9 дней назад

    thanks for the play an charge bit at the end when i saw the driver i went to go look for one to buy and you just saved me money

  • @1337GameDev
    @1337GameDev 9 дней назад +1

    5:19 - Yup -- because it was a cheaply made bottom for prototyping to save money on prototypes.

  • @VaporSprite
    @VaporSprite 8 дней назад

    The small board with the ARM microcontroller is probably just an integrated programming board for ease of development. UART is an easy-to-implement internal communication protocol, so I guess the microcontroller handles USB and programming for a more primitive chip that actually runs the whole controller. So you have a simple, cheap chip for mass-production being reprogrammed and managed by this little development tool.
    That's my best guess

  • @damian9303
    @damian9303 10 дней назад +1

    The differences made to it look exactly in-line with modern rereleases of retro controllers

  • @JackFront7
    @JackFront7 3 дня назад

    I love the intro music, tf2 has music that sounds old 2000s and modern 2024 music.

  • @PatrikTheDev
    @PatrikTheDev 9 дней назад

    I have a feeling this controller came from Bohemia Interactive, the makers of DayZ and a few other popular games. Considering its origin, they probably got a few of them as part of an early Xbox One devkit and someone took them home after they got decommissioned

  • @Kraaketaer
    @Kraaketaer 8 дней назад

    The odd 360 design with the rumble triggers, plus the amount of dirt on the triggers and everything else looking brand new makes me think this was some kind of prototype made for testing those triggers specifically, and essentially nothing else.

  • @Dungeonseeker1uk
    @Dungeonseeker1uk 8 дней назад

    The MCU is probably there because it is kinda "programmable". There's a weird language to control bare metal devices called CMSIS, the UART is the serial connection and using the MCU they would be able to tweak certain functions of the device (bluetooth/wifi power/channel, how sensitive the analogue sensors read etc etc. Once prototyped they can then "burn" the instructions onto a PLA/FPGA for retail.

  • @hobodozer
    @hobodozer 10 дней назад +2

    You can use the small circuit board on the front of the xbox 360 that has the power button and ring of leds on a pc to connect to the 360 controllers if you wire it for usb. I made one years ago and used it all the time lol

  • @ATZIN_Official
    @ATZIN_Official 17 часов назад

    I feel like this is either for a kiosk, or possibly, and this is pure speculation, some gorm of prototype cloud gaming controller of some sort for an unknown ditched project

  • @electrofreak0
    @electrofreak0 10 дней назад +1

    I remember Microsoft sold a wireless USB dongle that you plugged into the pc to use wireless Xbox 360 controllers.

  • @jckistan
    @jckistan 8 дней назад

    holy bringle? a second channel?
    not surprised that, as a brit, ive never seen the samsung letter opener. i think theyd find their way into crime scenes and it would be a whole kerfuffle

  • @ThePsychoticWombat
    @ThePsychoticWombat 7 дней назад

    Actually the original xbox controller only had a USB-cable, though it had a funky connector, but it's fully USB-compatible(but it does have one extra wire used only by lightguns for TV-sync)

  • @carlosfontanez9804
    @carlosfontanez9804 7 дней назад

    Hey Bringus, I think that hump was a placeholder for the ir blaster that the original xbox one controllers had. It would send a signal to the kinect and the kinect would recognize who was holding the controller and change the login seamlessly. So if you happened to switch controllers around the xbox would know which player was holding which controller. The newer xbox one's did away with that feature because the kinect wasn't that popular.

  • @ApertureSciencePsycho
    @ApertureSciencePsycho 7 дней назад

    The OG Xbox controller works on most Android phones because it was originally made as a Linux driver that got backported along with every other driver to the Android kernel fork (and is now also built by default)

  • @Moxhification
    @Moxhification 9 дней назад

    I'm very glad I found this video, love the style so much! Hoping to see some more 360 dev/proto content!

  • @w00tazn
    @w00tazn 10 дней назад +1

    I would reckon it says Xbox 360 on the back and looks like an Xbox 360 controller as a red herring in case this thing leaked. The top extra moulding thing looks like the IR stuff the OG Xbox One controllers had, and the fact that it has rumble triggers would also be a thing only Xbox One controllers would have.

  • @TeraByte38
    @TeraByte38 9 дней назад +3

    12:16 this is fu- -unny

  • @whismurmagic7903
    @whismurmagic7903 10 дней назад +2

    9:54 “can I see it?” “No”

  • @Stipud-Vadeios
    @Stipud-Vadeios 10 дней назад +1

    the only thing i took from this video is that samsung makes military weapons

  • @falllenshadow
    @falllenshadow 10 дней назад +1

    I'll fill my head with lithium dust instead, thanks.

  • @milandobos-qi6nj
    @milandobos-qi6nj 9 дней назад +2

    The xbox 360 emulator on the xbox one has a feature where if you press start and select that works as the xbox 360 home button. maybe that was originally planned for the xbox one itself

  • @ion_force
    @ion_force 9 дней назад

    Fun fact, the original 360 controller may have not been compatible with PC, but you absolutely can plug in a Guitar Hero 360 controller and have it work perfectly on HALO CE. There are just enough buttons to almost play the game. Ask me how I know.

  • @jackofblades3171
    @jackofblades3171 9 дней назад +1

    The original Xbox Controllers did Communicate as USB. But I didn't know if there would be driver support like the Xbox 360 Contollers got built into Windows Vista and forward.

  • @dialga236
    @dialga236 9 дней назад

    the second i saw checkem i knew you were a real one, great video

  • @ChiEKKUsama
    @ChiEKKUsama 8 дней назад

    UART would be the serial programming port; you could use it to read and write firmware to the controller.
    Also if you're interested in prototypes, I have a prototype Kinect 2.

  • @cfsilence
    @cfsilence 9 дней назад

    7:15 true story - I was watching this in bed and started falling asleep when I heard "look at me now Todd". This scared the shit out of me because my name is indeed Todd.

  • @JonFlyy
    @JonFlyy 4 дня назад

    I'm the ebay listing you linked in your video. thanks for making my sale happen lmao

  • @Notpoop906
    @Notpoop906 9 дней назад

    I was convinced this was from between the Xbox original and the 360 based on the initial appearance (no guide button, expansion slot of some kind, Mini USB which was more or less phased out by 2011). I was first second guessing myself when I saw the model number as it indicates it was from after the 360 controllers. They have used the same model numbering system from the Original Xbox all the way up to the current Series X. Very interesting that they were seemingly taking steps backwards at this point. But tbh, the entire Xbox One was a step backwards in itself so it kind of makes sense in in perspective 😂

  • @Atomlxe
    @Atomlxe 6 дней назад

    something alot of people dont realize that is worth bringing up, pressing both back and start at the same time opens the xbox guide. most people assume this is just an xbox one thing with backwards compatibility, but its on the original 360 aswell

    • @JonBringus
      @JonBringus  6 дней назад

      no way
      hmm I just tried it but it just takes a screenshot on mine. Might be because it's a devkit though

  • @AmyStrikesBack
    @AmyStrikesBack 8 дней назад

    I don't know why but this controller gives me heavy Dreamcast vibes

  • @sonicandrea2011...
    @sonicandrea2011... 9 дней назад +1

    1:13 certified italian here the pronounciation isnt even that bad its pretty good just the a its more open like a "A" sound like a screamed "a" but normal that was an advice have a nice day JON BRINGUS

  • @marschallblucher6197
    @marschallblucher6197 9 дней назад

    You know what this thing needs?
    A massive fucking Xbox logo right in the middle.

  • @ProfessorShroom
    @ProfessorShroom 8 дней назад

    The reason the OG Xbox controller works is because it's just USB. The controller ports on the Xbox are just USB with a different shaped connector

  • @1337GameDev
    @1337GameDev 9 дней назад

    4:49 - They were VERY limited on production volume, and wanted every controller to go to the console use -- vs PC users.
    They should have just used a USB port for charging and then released the drivers for windows later after supply was high.

  • @LelandHasGames
    @LelandHasGames 8 дней назад

    While looking at the board, I noticed some antennas integrated into the board. If you could somehow get it into a pairing mode, I imagine you could get it to work. You may need one of those older wireless Xbox controller adapters.

  • @DerivativeOfLog7
    @DerivativeOfLog7 9 дней назад +1

    You guessed right about "bambini" meaning children

  • @jakobxr
    @jakobxr 8 дней назад

    Remember when the xbone released, there was a promotional video explaining and showing how they made many prototypes, developed the controller more than any other console leading up to that point. I wonder if this one is shown in that video

    • @jakobxr
      @jakobxr 8 дней назад

      I think this was it ruclips.net/video/TCTrpSFksqU/видео.htmlsi=sw9jMLGo1_ADWIT5