I found a Prototype Xbox Controller

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  • Опубликовано: 22 дек 2024

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  • @forever-and-a-day2043
    @forever-and-a-day2043 3 месяца назад +650

    if the breakout board shows up as USB UART then you can likely get a shell on it with Putty.

    • @JonBringus
      @JonBringus  3 месяца назад +231

      I actually ended up doing that and there was some interesting output:
      BEAMAll sectors are unprotected.
      Calibration data found - loading.
      Left Trigger data = 2084, 3652
      Right Trigger data = 462, 2310
      Left Thumbstick Horizontal data = 567, 1978, 2125, 3466
      Left Thumbstick Vertical data = 802, 1967, 2100, 3320
      Right Thumbstick Horizontal data = 606, 1953, 2105, 3397
      Right Thumbstick Vertical data = 800, 2081, 2159, 3463
      Flash ID is: 545264912.
      Flash contains 0 sequences - Loading
      All RAM sectors are unprotected.

    • @undefinedCat
      @undefinedCat 3 месяца назад +111

      @@JonBringus terminal from sci-fi movie ahh output

    • @steveng7702
      @steveng7702 3 месяца назад +45

      Did you ever see the videos where someone would name their gamertag, "XboxTurnOff"?
      Lol they would send them voice messages and in game chat, the recipient would eventually say his gamertag and it'd turn the system off LOLOL.
      ​@JonBringus

    • @jj_0
      @jj_0 3 месяца назад +6

      Interesting. If there are some commands hidden, you might be able to turn on the rumble in triggers.

    • @ken14850
      @ken14850 3 месяца назад +5

      @@JonBringus you try the og xbox ? looks closer to the controller s makes sense the 1.0 xbox would be used to make the 360.

  • @poyp
    @poyp 3 месяца назад +3435

    No home button because you were obviously supposed to shout ”XBOX HOME” into the Kinect to open the menu.

    • @LakoIsFun
      @LakoIsFun 3 месяца назад +314

      Honestly believe it. I mean this is the same Microsoft who removed the start button because there was one on the touchscreen/keyboard.

    • @jamesquinley
      @jamesquinley 3 месяца назад +44

      To be fair, they probably based part of this design on the og xbox s controller, which has no home button.

    • @someguy4957
      @someguy4957 3 месяца назад +29

      @@jamesquinley except the controller was from 2012 so an xbox one proto controller

    • @babayaga7434
      @babayaga7434 3 месяца назад +31

      Going off of how hard they pushed the Xbone and Kinect as one, you might be right

    • @LoremIpsum1919
      @LoremIpsum1919 3 месяца назад +8

      The Xbox 360 Kinect didn't release until 2010

  • @SkylarWhite
    @SkylarWhite 3 месяца назад +983

    It's a "kiosk controller" that is used for kiosks at trade shows (E3/GamesCom/etc) or play testing.
    It is not a prototype. Proto controllers have white guide buttons and in some cases have black and white buttons like the OG Xbox controller (from when they just jammed xbox controllers into new molds during early devlopment days.)
    The play button is removed so you can't invoke the Dash and so that the clamp that holds it in place (it clamps where the home button would be.) This is also why it appears to be a final product, you need to have FCC clearence to use these in public envrionments, like a show kiosk.
    The ridge on the back is to help secure that clamp.
    The start and select buttons are moved to allow for the clamp to fit.
    The USB part on the back is a sidecar and is used for power and telemetry. The drivers are in the XDK and this would be plugged into a computer. You could also use it to pass commands to the console, so say you had a "Reset kiosk" script that ran every hour during a trade show. Instead of hanving a handler go to each kiosk and press the magic button combo, you could just issue the reset script. Much more seemless. Also great for automation, because there is no Guide buttoin. Pressing the Guide button during an automated run would be catastophic and could do some pretty random things to your dev/test kit.
    When one of these is used properly it can be hooked up to an input display so during a play test you can record the button inputs out side of the game (great for no-debug builds.)
    I wouldn't be surprised if it was used at one of the MS Test centers run by Keywords, as they would have run a lot of the playtests in Europe during the 360 days.
    This was not a Kintect controller as people claim.
    All consumer facing 360 controllers required a home button, even if it was being used for single purpose like Kintect. The "XRs" (Xbox Requirements) for hardware were very, very clear about. The Guide button is also required under the branding guide, as it's key branding to any Xbox controller device.
    Keep in mind this controller is also from the period of time that MS thought the 360 and One were going to exist together, so they were also experimenting with internal hardware that could work on either machine.

    • @GreenShark4
      @GreenShark4 3 месяца назад +71

      This should be pinned

    • @JonBringus
      @JonBringus  3 месяца назад +299

      Oh now that's interesting. I wonder if there are any images of this thing deployed at a trade show kiosk or something similar

    • @SkylarWhite
      @SkylarWhite 3 месяца назад

      ​@@JonBringus Edit - I found this as well, there is an article on Venture beat that details a version of this controller shell that was being used for smell testing as well. Google destructoid theres a prototype xbox one controller that emits scents. So it sounds like MS was using these in a bunch of applications where a "engineer" controller was more valuable than a retail controller.

    • @SkylarWhite
      @SkylarWhite 3 месяца назад

      @@JonBringus ​ @JonBringus I DID just find an article claiming these were originally prototype smell controllers, as well.
      Google destructoid theres-a-prototype-xbox-one-controller-that-emits-scents - since I can't add a link
      It has the grey/black buttons. So it seems they were using these for many strange shennignans.

    • @SkylarWhite
      @SkylarWhite 3 месяца назад

      @@JonBringus My previous post was deleted, but I found an article that has an example of one of these being used as smell emitting prototype. You can find it by looking for "smell emitting xbox one controller prototype" The controller is slightly different, but it sounds like these shells were used in a bunch of different applications.
      So my question is now is, did you smell it?

  • @lozo1269
    @lozo1269 3 месяца назад +796

    0:26 FYI, what’s written under SAMSUNG is “Commemoration of your visit.” in Korean.

    • @Goncha-l4s
      @Goncha-l4s 3 месяца назад +44

      so someone grabbed that as a souvenir

    • @r0bo804
      @r0bo804 3 месяца назад

      ​@@Goncha-l4s well I mean it was free

    • @MrYerak5
      @MrYerak5 3 месяца назад

      I'll take one ​@@Goncha-l4s

    • @Djbiohazard1991
      @Djbiohazard1991 3 месяца назад +27

      @@Goncha-l4s Well, yes, but “Commemoration of your visit.” conveys you're supposed to take it home. :')

    • @champagnesupernova1839
      @champagnesupernova1839 3 месяца назад +4

      @@Djbiohazard1991 that's generally what you do with souvenirs yes

  • @michael80126
    @michael80126 3 месяца назад +899

    Please, Please! Call "Modern Vintage Gamer" im pretty sure that he's interested in this Controller as well and probably able to help you out!

    • @quarterofdisorder
      @quarterofdisorder 3 месяца назад +31

      DO IT

    • @zachariah74
      @zachariah74 3 месяца назад +3

      this

    • @TheGlitchyMario
      @TheGlitchyMario 3 месяца назад +3

      Please!

    • @hcbs1986
      @hcbs1986 3 месяца назад

      no get hard4games

    • @midorifox
      @midorifox 3 месяца назад +8

      Lmao, mvg. He'd have better luck with NostalgiaNerd or MichaelMJD than that lame joke MVG.

  • @JessicaFEREM
    @JessicaFEREM 3 месяца назад +412

    the original xbox was a USB controller, it just had a proprietary connector on it for some reason. the BUS is just USB.

    • @awesomeferret
      @awesomeferret 3 месяца назад +31

      So was the Xbox 360 controller (and this is a video about 360 controllers). On the 360, it s literally a USB gamepad. That's back from a short time in Microsoft history when they realized that making a product more versatile increases it's value).

    • @SixtySixHundred-1982
      @SixtySixHundred-1982 3 месяца назад +18

      Another person posting things I now don't need to.
      The ports on the OG Xbox were just USB 1.1 ports with a proprietary connector. Literally all you needed to do was cut the cable and attach a male USB port and they could be used on PC. With custom drivers of course, but a better way was if you took the OG Xbox breakaway cable, spliced a female USB port on it would then give you standard, albeit slow, USB ports on the Xbox. Perfect for the modding scene as they would read select flash drives as memory cards which you could load corrupted/modified save files to and load them in game. That's the reason Splinter Cell is likely the best selling OG Xbox game! Done that a few hundred times at this point!

    • @JamesTK
      @JamesTK 3 месяца назад +6

      @@SixtySixHundred-1982my og Xbox has a USB hub soldered to one of the control ports with ports ghettod on the back. Young me was lit

    • @SixtySixHundred-1982
      @SixtySixHundred-1982 3 месяца назад +3

      @@JamesTK I'll second that! I still mod the occasional OG Xbox and may even install something like that next time. Good thinking. 👍

    • @JamesTK
      @JamesTK 3 месяца назад +2

      @@SixtySixHundred-1982can't use that port in multiplayer games though... It doesn't like running controllers through a hub

  • @McBagelGaming
    @McBagelGaming 3 месяца назад +415

    Your frustration over the plug n play charge kit not working was me 14 years ago. WHY. WHY CAN'T IT JUST WORK. Also nice to see you got a USB mod working on an OG Xbox controller. I tried that as a kid but I couldn't get any drivers for it.

    • @JonBringus
      @JonBringus  3 месяца назад +121

      Even today the drivers for the og Xbox controller are all screwed up in Windows after Windows 7

    • @GoodGamesBadLaptop
      @GoodGamesBadLaptop 3 месяца назад +41

      @@JonBringus I also had this issue as a teenager lol, I'm pretty sure the issue is that the Play and Charge Kit doesn't actually transmit data, probably just power. Because back on W7 I did get it to show up as an Xbox 360 Play & Charge Kit, but I'm pretty sure that 's just because the charger itself is a device, but it doesn't transmit any controller inputs over that connection

    • @wwooaahh
      @wwooaahh 3 месяца назад +12

      @@JonBringusI managed to somehow get the play & charge kit to read and install drivers on windows 11, but it only sends power. Sucks that it doesn’t work as an adapter to use the 360 controller on pc while still charging it.

    • @reptarien
      @reptarien 3 месяца назад +4

      I'm pretty sure not even the normal Xbox 360 drivers work anymore. I used to use xbox 360 wireless guitar controllers using an adapter that only worked with the first driver in that list and it doesn't work anymore I don't think :/

    • @jarnobot
      @jarnobot 3 месяца назад +7

      @@JonBringus Do they work under Linux? I've 2 old 360 controllers laying around and this sounds like a fun project to add to my ever-increasing list of projects that I will never actually do.

  • @Gogoseit
    @Gogoseit 3 месяца назад +115

    4:30 the reason xbox 360 controllers dont work with the play and charge kit is because even when using the play and charge kit the controller is communicating wirelessly, the cable only transmits identifer data about the controller, and not the actual button presses. if you want to use a wireless xbox 360 controller on a pc you need a dongle.

    • @vulcanitu2578
      @vulcanitu2578 3 месяца назад +12

      And now the original dongles got expensive

    • @NipplesTheEnchilada2323
      @NipplesTheEnchilada2323 3 месяца назад

      @@vulcanitu2578 There are cheap third party knock off ones you can get now, so there is that.

    • @awatkins06
      @awatkins06 3 месяца назад +3

      Whats hilarious is that at launch of the 360 the playncharge kit would work wired on a pc but the drivers changed when they launched the wireless adapter

    • @DerpyChap
      @DerpyChap 3 месяца назад +8

      @@awatkins06 I don't think that's true at all, wireless Xbox 360 controllers have always exclusively communicated wirelessly, they're simply not configured to transmit input data over USB. They also do not support firmware updates, so there would've been no way to disable this functionality.

    • @firuis1
      @firuis1 3 месяца назад +2

      @@vulcanitu2578 tbf you can use 3rd party ones. ive been using one for like 8 years and its been fine, only problem is windows refusing to save the driver settings for it -.-

  • @itsal_x0
    @itsal_x0 3 месяца назад +327

    This is a prototype wireless controller that was meant to work with the Kinect (Model 1540 being the Console, Model 1520 being the Kinect and Model 1530 being the controller). It has no home button as it uses the Kinect for voice commands. This controller is completely wireless, and only used the input for power.

    • @KevDoy
      @KevDoy 3 месяца назад +7

      Got any additional material?

    • @teleotto
      @teleotto 2 месяца назад +1

      What where the nipples for?

    • @Rayjacker
      @Rayjacker Месяц назад +1

      @@teleotto Select on left side, Start on right side

  • @bea3558
    @bea3558 3 месяца назад +88

    this entire video was me as a kid trying to get motionjoy to work with my ps3 controller in 2010, we've come a long way from then.

    • @kalkalico
      @kalkalico 3 месяца назад +6

      oh my god that was the WORST
      it was so finnicky and i got it to work maybe twice ever out of sheer luck and never again

    • @PuroKross
      @PuroKross 3 месяца назад

      or trying the tons of knockoff applications like Joy2Key

    • @jamesalexander5559
      @jamesalexander5559 3 месяца назад +7

      You've awakened some deep seated trauma. Xinput become standardized and replacing Dinput, DS4 Windows not sucking, and Steam controller mapping are all godsends.

    • @Psycheux_
      @Psycheux_ 3 месяца назад

      Jesus you made me feel old with this...
      those were the days...
      god MotionJoy SUCKED xD

    • @miyabwah
      @miyabwah 3 месяца назад +4

      we went from ps3 controllers Barely Functioning on Windows to PC ports of PlayStation exclusives with native PlayStation controller support 😁

  • @A_Hat17
    @A_Hat17 3 месяца назад +45

    Samsung letter open is my new favorite Bringus character

  • @AngryBirdsFanboy06
    @AngryBirdsFanboy06 3 месяца назад +105

    0:15 As a Czech Republic Civilian myself, im proud of this Xbox Prototype Controller being associated with our country.

    • @Green-hat-0
      @Green-hat-0 3 месяца назад +7

      As a Samsung letter opener citizen myself, I am honored to be opening this package that is associated with the Czech Republic that is associated with the Xbox prototype controller *.*

    • @Ajnoscz
      @Ajnoscz 3 месяца назад +2

      I'm so proud to be in Czechia ❤

    • @ladislavp09
      @ladislavp09 3 месяца назад +4

      Čechy voleee. 🤪

    • @AngryBirdsFanboy06
      @AngryBirdsFanboy06 3 месяца назад +1

      No jo 😅

    • @czechvirusS
      @czechvirusS 3 месяца назад

      Oh. You mean chechnia? (Jen si hraju na Američana xD)

  • @apolocoke3244
    @apolocoke3244 3 месяца назад +129

    I’ve been dealing with depression lately, both the main channel and this one make my days better, thank you John, keep it up.

    • @zaprowsdower3911
      @zaprowsdower3911 3 месяца назад +6

      Probably should get off line then that only makes it worse.

    • @apolocoke3244
      @apolocoke3244 3 месяца назад +1

      Ill try to do it, thanks c:

    • @Bush_Dog777
      @Bush_Dog777 3 месяца назад

      ​@@apolocoke3244get well soon dude

    • @bok..
      @bok.. 3 месяца назад

      Yes If you can go for a nice walk in nature. Have some time with the earth, I find it grounding. Pay attention to birds and plants, etc.​@@apolocoke3244

    • @juhnenfels
      @juhnenfels 3 месяца назад +3

      go for them gains mate

  • @Illusca
    @Illusca 3 месяца назад +20

    i love the casual "oh yeah let me try this on the ol' dev kit i have lying around" lmao. really do be the realm of interesting hardware over there

  • @senPuff
    @senPuff 3 месяца назад +217

    Wish I had a prototype of you, Mr. Bringus.

    • @DeadReckon
      @DeadReckon 3 месяца назад +25

      That would be terrifying and potentially very dangerous. We do not need a glitchy Bringus.

    • @RenX_XAmamiya
      @RenX_XAmamiya 3 месяца назад +3

      @@DeadReckon i agree

    • @exturkconner
      @exturkconner 3 месяца назад +3

      Wouldn't that be a tissue his dad used to clean up after...well you know?

    • @DeadReckon
      @DeadReckon 3 месяца назад +2

      @@exturkconner No, Bringus was made in a lab

    • @exturkconner
      @exturkconner 3 месяца назад +3

      @@DeadReckon You can pop one out in a lab I assure you.

  • @glmedsf
    @glmedsf 2 месяца назад +7

    5:03 - That's the same material but the mould cavity was eroded instead of cnc machined wich is what gives it that grainy texture (the erosion).

  • @thenotwaluigi
    @thenotwaluigi 3 месяца назад +9

    The play and charge kit port was designed to charge the battery and the driver in windows is designed to control the power delivery

  • @PercyPanleo
    @PercyPanleo 3 месяца назад +8

    7:20 It's probably the normal XInput driver. IIRC with the original XBOX they used the USB protocol but had a custom port shape to avoid paying royalties to the USB Implementers Forum.

  • @ChrizHose
    @ChrizHose 2 месяца назад +7

    2:26 thx for the free Windows XP License

  • @Foxxi33
    @Foxxi33 Месяц назад +1

    That Samsung letter opener is actually considered a Collectors item now in Korea. Keep up the good use with it and keep it safe~

  • @TheMirkoQuelloVero
    @TheMirkoQuelloVero 3 месяца назад +8

    As an Italian, the thing you said is partially true. We don’t give plastic bags to children, they take them from us…

  • @AuroraNemoia
    @AuroraNemoia 3 месяца назад +113

    All Xbox 360 wireless controllers are ONLY wireless. The Play and Charge cable is a misnomer because the cable only transfers power. To use wireless Xbox 360 controllers on PC, you must use a wireless controller adapter. It's a little white puck thing. They're like 30 dollars on ebay.

    • @horacegentleman3296
      @horacegentleman3296 3 месяца назад +25

      I made a wireless adapter by ripping the wireless receiver out of a red ringed 360 and doing some soldering.

    • @leatherhidegaming
      @leatherhidegaming 3 месяца назад +9

      There must be data going through that cable in order for a PC to recognise that it's the charging adapter. It just won't let you use it to play games with.

    • @JamesTK
      @JamesTK 3 месяца назад +6

      @@leatherhidegamingyeah, there's drivers that pop up saying play and charge... Which only show up when plugged into the controller. I think there may have been smarts to auto connect to the PC dongle

    • @dunny
      @dunny 3 месяца назад +4

      @@JamesTK yeah you're right, the cable does automatically sync a connected controller to a connected 360 PC dongle.

    • @colinstech6601
      @colinstech6601 3 месяца назад +2

      I have a wired one

  • @TheDoomguy3232
    @TheDoomguy3232 3 месяца назад +29

    12:28 I see you Wii U USB Helper. I know what you are Jon Bringus...

  • @ozzybozzer
    @ozzybozzer 3 месяца назад +65

    btw the original xbox controller probably works on the phone because it's an xinput device, which is basically a universal language for game controllers
    and by universal, I of course mean everyone except sony and nintendo

    • @ozzybozzer
      @ozzybozzer 3 месяца назад +2

      this doesnt explain why the prototype doesnt work so ignore me, actually

    • @Bartho_85
      @Bartho_85 3 месяца назад +1

      Joy-cons work on Android tho, its just bluetooth

    • @dxtremecaliber
      @dxtremecaliber 3 месяца назад +2

      @@Bartho_85also DS4 and DualSense

    • @megagamememe
      @megagamememe 3 месяца назад +4

      But isn't xinput was invented with the Xbox 360 and the OG controller is dinput?

    • @alfiehicks1
      @alfiehicks1 3 месяца назад +6

      Xinput sucks balls because it's designed to only support the Xbox Controller, which itself sucks balls because its functionality is still stuck in 2005. And it's actually a step backwards from the 2003 original because it lacks the black and white buttons.
      It's the equivalent of if the original Xbox launched with a controller that matched functionality with the NES controller - no wonder Sony and Nintendo want to do things differently.
      Luckily, as usual, Valve cleaned up Microsoft's mess, and Steam Input makes it all work fine.

  • @jeremyc4786
    @jeremyc4786 3 месяца назад +9

    You're the type of person that could probably get my Sega Genesis 6 button arcade stick to work on the computer. It has a USB cable, but it's read as a keyboard and only a couple buttons actually type anything.

    • @devnol
      @devnol 3 месяца назад

      they don't need to type any characters as long as they send valid keyboard keycodes you can probably still use them for some emulators

  • @greenprotag
    @greenprotag 3 месяца назад +11

    The 360 controllers with play and charge were wireless still. That cable was for charging only. There may be some kind of data transmitted that tells the PC it's a play and charge cable, but the windows play and charge "Kit" included a wireless dongle that was basically a USB version of the controller radio in the console. You need the puck to make wireless 360 controllers work.

    • @Motwera
      @Motwera 3 месяца назад

      I remember making that exact same mistake, thank god for Bluetooth controllers being standard

    • @jarydm87
      @jarydm87 3 месяца назад

      The hard wired controllers were also wireless - they just needed to be plugged in for power since they didnt have a battery.

    • @shrub9677
      @shrub9677 3 месяца назад

      @@jarydm87 yeah i dont think thats how that works at all

    • @jarydm87
      @jarydm87 3 месяца назад

      @@shrub9677 you would think so

    • @shrub9677
      @shrub9677 3 месяца назад +1

      @@jarydm87 if that were true the controllers wouldnt work on computers that dont have the right software drivers to read a wireless xbox controller, they needed to make the adapter for a reason

  • @JustRobertCZE
    @JustRobertCZE 3 месяца назад +5

    as a czech citizen, i was really flabbergaster when you said its from czech republic :D

  • @PloopChute
    @PloopChute 3 месяца назад +2

    I can see by the previously clicked "Kia Heavy Industry" and "Samsung Aerospace Industries" links on the Wikipedia page that for the K9 Thunder that you fell into a Wikipedia hole. It happens every time I end up there. It's like the 6 degrees of seperation but instead of just people, its EVERYTHING. You could be looking up corn flakes and, through hyperlinks alone, somehow wind up on on a Ted Bundy page 10 minutes later. Its ridiculous, amazing, and I love it.

    • @kg_canuck
      @kg_canuck 23 дня назад

      Gatorade, Kool-Aid, Flavor-Aid, *Jonestown Massacre*

  • @plcraig510
    @plcraig510 3 месяца назад +3

    Bringus is such a great RUclipsr I really appreciate the work that he puts in his videos . Keep up the great work!

  • @Arctic_silverstreak
    @Arctic_silverstreak 2 месяца назад +2

    Given that the microcontrollers is known and it has very open debug/serial port where you can reprogram it, it's not far off from making it a functioning xbox controller
    Just read button state and told it to spew out xinput data over the usb connection and it's golden

  • @TheBcoolGuy
    @TheBcoolGuy 3 месяца назад +10

    I was gonna say the shape reminded me of the Xbox One controller.

  • @govern_
    @govern_ 2 месяца назад +1

    3:48 that would probably be good pause button placement for elden ring pvp players. They always pause to go into inventory and swap weapons/equipment, so being able to pause quicker might be good for them. Not sure though. I wonder why they ended up moving it, it'd be interesting to see a modern controller with that design

  • @WalterMan
    @WalterMan 3 месяца назад +11

    7:22 I pretty sure the original Xbox controller is just a usb controller with a fancy connector on it. So nothing fancy with Android it just sees it as an usb gamepad. Heck I’m sure it would even work on an iPhone.

    • @Eta_Hoyimi
      @Eta_Hoyimi 3 месяца назад +1

      Absolutely, you could even take the plug end of a controller cable and splice a female usb onto it to connect mass storage, keyboards or other devices

  • @dan_loeb
    @dan_loeb 3 месяца назад +5

    the chipset has integrated bluetooth. it's possible it's a power tethered wireless prototype, so you need to power and then connect to it. however i doubt the specific early dev kits that it connects to are cheap or plentiful. pre xbox one s revision controllers didn't support Bluetooth to pc without a special dongle, so it's unlikely (but possible) it might show up as a Bluetooth controller.

  • @leonius
    @leonius 3 месяца назад +4

    The "play and charge kit" driver in windows is just so that windows can recognize it and allow the correct amount of voltage or something like that to be delivered to the controller, it was never designed to be used to input commands through the cable, that's at least what I could gather, the "plug and play kit" (in some parts of the world this is the name used) is the same thing, only for energy and nothing more, the kit works this way on the 360 as well
    So that's why it only connects wirelesly to the Xbox and that wireless dongle they used

    • @Rayjacker
      @Rayjacker Месяц назад

      If you have the wireless dongle plugged in it also automatically syncs the controller to it.

  • @ram_stick_samurai
    @ram_stick_samurai 3 месяца назад +4

    legit looks like the smaller duke and the normal xbox 360 controller had a child.

  • @FoxNoitre10
    @FoxNoitre10 3 месяца назад +60

    7:00 android also has native support for ps3 controllers. Most other devices dont

    • @MrSeatbelt
      @MrSeatbelt 3 месяца назад +19

      linux kernel my beloved

    • @FoxNoitre10
      @FoxNoitre10 3 месяца назад +6

      @@MrSeatbelt fr

    • @trekkie1701e
      @trekkie1701e 3 месяца назад +1

      I use a PS4 controller for emulators on my galaxy tab, it's a great combo.

    • @FoxNoitre10
      @FoxNoitre10 3 месяца назад +3

      @@trekkie1701e ps4 has native windows support.

    • @gllwsclbrtr
      @gllwsclbrtr 3 месяца назад +3

      @@FoxNoitre10 no

  • @CC01E
    @CC01E 9 дней назад

    Even “The Duke” was a usb controller with a fifth wire for the memory card. You can easily mod a breakaway adapter to allow you to not need to modify the controller itself. That’s one of the many things that made the OG Xbox a legendary system.

  • @Susanna-oo2qd
    @Susanna-oo2qd 3 месяца назад +4

    dude uggghhhh you just awakened an ancient memory of 10 year old me trying to plug my wireless xbox controller into my moms laptop to play gang beasts and it never worked

  • @Moxhification
    @Moxhification 3 месяца назад

    I'm very glad I found this video, love the style so much! Hoping to see some more 360 dev/proto content!

  • @canonicalactiontoad
    @canonicalactiontoad 3 месяца назад +3

    Now we won't ever see Prototype being played with a prototype!

  • @medaminelmokni1840
    @medaminelmokni1840 3 месяца назад +3

    There s a wireless adapter for Xbox 360 controllers, that cable you tried to use is just for charging and that s it, but there s a separate wireless receiver that with that exact driver will let you connect your controller wirelessly to your computer.

  • @kamiien887
    @kamiien887 3 месяца назад +3

    7:20 probably because your adapter uses xinput which is supported on almost all modern devices

  • @LepidoliteMica
    @LepidoliteMica 3 месяца назад

    7:03 As I understand it, this is because despite the strange plug shape, the original Xbox controller uses the basic Xinput format. You can even take a file to parts of the breakaway plug and connect one through an X360 USB breakaway cable.

  • @logic128
    @logic128 3 месяца назад +3

    the mcu handles wireless but theres no battery (that i could see) so it could be worth plugging the usb in the top for power and using the sync button to connect to an xb1/pc/x360 over bluetooth or whatever tech xboxes use for controllers

  • @albert07028k
    @albert07028k 3 месяца назад +37

    0:37 Samsung letter opener

    • @CinderSFM
      @CinderSFM 3 месяца назад

      letter onpener moment

    • @baoquoc3710
      @baoquoc3710 3 месяца назад +5

      SMASNUG*, have to be in the DankPods spirit

    • @angw3l
      @angw3l 3 месяца назад

      thanks

    • @FooglerDoodgler
      @FooglerDoodgler 3 месяца назад

      A Samsung letter opener moment

  • @ReadMyNameThanks
    @ReadMyNameThanks 3 месяца назад +29

    The Xbox One absolutely had rumble triggers. No one used them but they were there

    • @Fusion05
      @Fusion05 3 месяца назад +8

      Forza horizon did

    • @6ch6ris6
      @6ch6ris6 3 месяца назад +2

      @@Fusion05 and the Mad Max game. which is great, but I have it for steam and it has no support for the haptic triggers there :(
      overall such a cool evolution of the trigger. never understood why developers wouldn't use it.

    • @Fusion05
      @Fusion05 3 месяца назад +1

      @@6ch6ris6 yeah it was actually really neat. Sony's dualsense is neat as well, but it's a lot heavier. Xbox took the balanced and better approach. Sadly that's the only big win I give Microsoft in recent memory.

    • @Psythik
      @Psythik 3 месяца назад +1

      Some PC games use them (like Halo MCC) but it's very rare. The first time I played a game that used them, it scared the hell out of me (I was using a budget controller and didn't think they had them; that's how uncommon support for them is). Also they have a tendency to tickle your fingers. It would be better if they were resistive triggers instead. Would be a *game-changer* for racing sims, cause you would be able to actually feel the brake pedal.

    • @6ch6ris6
      @6ch6ris6 3 месяца назад

      @@Psythik wtf i played halo mcc on steam and didnt notice any of it.

  • @themetal2244
    @themetal2244 3 месяца назад +2

    10:45 the chip next to the micro USB port looks like an FTDI chip for USB interfacing. The Micro USB port is likely there to interface with the MCU directly for debugging. Also MCU does just mean microcontroller

  • @lever4564
    @lever4564 3 месяца назад +17

    Clicked off a sunny V2 video for this, and I don’t regret it :)

    • @user-ww9rh1qc3h
      @user-ww9rh1qc3h 3 месяца назад +1

      !!!

    • @EnigmaticGentleman
      @EnigmaticGentleman 3 месяца назад +14

      I mean I never regret clicking off of drama videos.

    • @Awesome_Nova
      @Awesome_Nova 3 месяца назад +2

      ​@@EnigmaticGentleman Even by the standards of drama channels, SunnyV2 is shit

  • @mothballmouth
    @mothballmouth 2 месяца назад

    "The check 'em republic" deserves more love for how funny that was but idk how many people really appreciate that classic joke.

  • @user-ww9rh1qc3h
    @user-ww9rh1qc3h 3 месяца назад +10

    we got stiffed with the bad timeline

  • @RhodderzX
    @RhodderzX 3 месяца назад +2

    The 2012 tag on the driver might be because the device ID was reused for the xbox one which is commonly done for prototypes and dev hardware

  • @AlexTenThousand
    @AlexTenThousand 3 месяца назад +5

    I'm probably the sole Italian in your audience and I do have to admit that I was always kept away from plastic bags as a little kid

  • @MagnusRohden-db8gy
    @MagnusRohden-db8gy 19 дней назад

    This has dankpods vibes and I'm all here for it dude

  • @megan_alnico
    @megan_alnico 3 месяца назад +3

    Why didn't you try pairing it with the 360? Like just wirelessly like you would a regular 360 controller?

  • @CamiloTohsaka
    @CamiloTohsaka 3 месяца назад

    Holy moly, I really loved those triggers in that form into a Xbox One controller.
    The thing with the 360 wireless with the Play and Charge kit in PC is the receiver. You need the receiver if You want to use a 360 controller, even with the charge cable. It's just to sync, without press the sync button, just like syncing a PS3 or PS4 controller and charge the battery (If You put one).

  • @1337GameDev
    @1337GameDev 3 месяца назад +3

    7:30 - It's because the original xbox used the windows gamepad API for it's controllers -- as the original xbox was windows NT.
    So android supports windows controllers that are plug n play. No special driver needed.

  • @DawnDashi
    @DawnDashi 3 месяца назад

    thanks for the play an charge bit at the end when i saw the driver i went to go look for one to buy and you just saved me money

  • @randomcrap7682
    @randomcrap7682 3 месяца назад +15

    "wait until the end to clear any misinformation" _proceeds to talk about none of that at the end_

    • @kassarc16
      @kassarc16 3 месяца назад +7

      He found out it was an Xbone prototype, not a 360 as he first thought.

  • @Psythik
    @Psythik 3 месяца назад

    5:32 "I didn't even have a 360 as a kid". Good god, I'm old. I was almost done with high school by the time the 360 came out, and I'm only in my 30s!

  • @TeraByte38
    @TeraByte38 3 месяца назад +5

    12:16 this is fu- -unny

  • @dialga236
    @dialga236 3 месяца назад

    the second i saw checkem i knew you were a real one, great video

  • @that_exact_Katie
    @that_exact_Katie 3 месяца назад +7

    4:50 what about plugging it into linux powered ps4?

    • @IDontModWTFz
      @IDontModWTFz 3 месяца назад

      It still works on pc you just need neighbourhood, they never released the drivers but they actually had them with the 360 xdk

    • @pablollamasaguilar4975
      @pablollamasaguilar4975 3 месяца назад

      PS4 and PS5 operating systems are BSD

  • @JonFlyy
    @JonFlyy 3 месяца назад

    I'm the ebay listing you linked in your video. thanks for making my sale happen lmao

  • @hikkamorii
    @hikkamorii 3 месяца назад +5

    12:45 I found an interesting thing, if you connect a PS4 controller wirelessly to the PS4, and plug it into PC, touchpad will stop working on PS4, but will work on PC, for whatever reason.

    • @kieron39
      @kieron39 3 месяца назад

      lol i found this out the hard way when I had been using a DS4 controller for both a console and pc, finished playing a game on PS4 and switched over to my PC to find out it had managed to uninstall a game in steam!

  • @chuntyotter
    @chuntyotter 3 месяца назад

    I love the tomodachi life music you use in these videos, it makes me so happy

  • @tntblower
    @tntblower 3 месяца назад +3

    Why did you mention the pairing button but didn't try it

  • @timm2396
    @timm2396 3 месяца назад

    honestly having the start and select buttons on the sides by the thumbs feels better then where they're actually located

  • @MarkZukkininberg
    @MarkZukkininberg 3 месяца назад +10

    How do you even find stuff like this?

    • @_spidget
      @_spidget 3 месяца назад +1

      the internet

    • @jojo_glitching2970
      @jojo_glitching2970 3 месяца назад

      The dark side of the the Internet ​@@_spidget

    • @carnavs
      @carnavs 3 месяца назад

      eBay, these controllers have been all over eBay for like $130 the past few weeks. Lol

    • @AbdAbdAbdAbd
      @AbdAbdAbdAbd 3 месяца назад +1

      the silk road

    • @SirAzur3
      @SirAzur3 3 месяца назад

      I think I saw it a couple years ago even so it's been on there a while

  • @MyrajusEleen
    @MyrajusEleen Месяц назад +1

    I miss the black and white buttons…

  • @Brattleborg
    @Brattleborg 3 месяца назад +3

    My Chemical Uromance

  • @cookiecreeperplayz
    @cookiecreeperplayz 15 дней назад

    An old ign article from 2013 titled "xbox one's prototype controllers revealed" shows a design identical to this (xbox start and select, no home button, forehead thing) with no sticker and the black and white buttons, which suggests that these prototype xbox controllers were just made from whatever xbox 360 controller they had laying around and were modified with the haptic and other stuff from there

  • @flamingkillermc2806
    @flamingkillermc2806 3 месяца назад +5

    Jon Bringussss

  • @Norbert011
    @Norbert011 3 месяца назад +2

    You need a dongle for the wireless 360 controllers as they didn't send data over cable, this weird prototype thingy is likely similar in that.

  • @secondghost
    @secondghost 3 месяца назад +3

    I choose lies.

  • @Tim0Tim0
    @Tim0Tim0 3 месяца назад

    LOVE THIS!!! I own a 360 Krypton controller myself. Iove it!

  • @whismurmagic7903
    @whismurmagic7903 3 месяца назад +3

    9:54 “can I see it?” “No”

  • @damian9303
    @damian9303 3 месяца назад +1

    The differences made to it look exactly in-line with modern rereleases of retro controllers

  • @imcalledfyre
    @imcalledfyre 3 месяца назад +3

    I just discovered im not subscribed.. lemmy change that rq

  • @hobodozer
    @hobodozer 3 месяца назад +2

    You can use the small circuit board on the front of the xbox 360 that has the power button and ring of leds on a pc to connect to the 360 controllers if you wire it for usb. I made one years ago and used it all the time lol

  • @cerealstring71
    @cerealstring71 3 месяца назад +66

    11 seconds and no views? Bro fell off

  • @faeranne
    @faeranne 3 месяца назад

    7:33 Fun fact, that original xbox controller will work on just about anything with usb support. A common misconception is that every device needs unique drivers, but a shocking number of things have *generic drivers*. The original xbox controller used the generic driver for gamepads because it was just generic usb over a funky plug. Some other common "generic devices" are flashdrives (Mass Storage Device), cameras (UVC), Audio devices, both mic and speaker (just called USB Audio Device), keyboards mice gamepads and other stuff like that (USB HID, or Human Interface Device). These all use a default standard along with a few bits of configuration data to tell the computer what features they support. Some modern Bioses even support gamepads for input because of this. That's right, you can edit bios settings with the classic duke controller.

  • @mofman1
    @mofman1 3 месяца назад +15

    Why would you put an opening card about how wrong the info at the start of the video instead of just doing a second take? Is the 10 minutes out of your life really that important?

    • @FabyBruh
      @FabyBruh 3 месяца назад +21

      My guy thinking recording, editing, rendering and sh*t takes 10 minutes 🗣️

    • @william2glaser227
      @william2glaser227 3 месяца назад +5

      Yes

    • @TheOneDanTek
      @TheOneDanTek 3 месяца назад

      dam yur stupid if yu think making a good quality yt video takes 10 minutes. also people have lives yk.

    • @elrymoe
      @elrymoe 3 месяца назад +6

      Cuz you cant ? Redo the unboxing n stuff ? How dense are you ?

    • @FabyBruh
      @FabyBruh 3 месяца назад +2

      Using a calculator I think p = 0.004 g/cm3

  • @andremalerba5281
    @andremalerba5281 3 месяца назад

    That Play & Charge Driver just make your controller sync with the wireless adapter automatically when you plug the controller to the PC via the USB, just that.
    And it's great as I keep my wireless adapter tucked inside my PC case and go back and forward with my controller on the PC, Xbox 360 and another wireless adapter that I left loose to use on Android, notebooks or whatever

  • @brandonlee7382
    @brandonlee7382 3 месяца назад

    That's really cool. Seems like one of the first prototypes. Maybe it was made so the developers can take advantage for the triggers.
    This obviously was nowhere near finished. I believe the home button was always gonna be a thing in the finale design. They made a video about how they got the final xbox one controller design and how much money they spent. Xbox One controller was very good

  • @ThePsychoticWombat
    @ThePsychoticWombat 3 месяца назад

    Actually the original xbox controller only had a USB-cable, though it had a funky connector, but it's fully USB-compatible(but it does have one extra wire used only by lightguns for TV-sync)

  • @1337GameDev
    @1337GameDev 3 месяца назад

    4:49 - They were VERY limited on production volume, and wanted every controller to go to the console use -- vs PC users.
    They should have just used a USB port for charging and then released the drivers for windows later after supply was high.

  • @doodooman2957
    @doodooman2957 3 месяца назад

    this is an insanely cool find. i have a halo 5 prototype controller that indistinguishable from the final product besides a label inside saying prototype

  • @CowboybubPercussion
    @CowboybubPercussion 2 месяца назад

    If you work at Microsoft as an employee, there’s a special store where you could pick up prototype or early release stuff, I know because my dad worked there and he took me once.

  • @milandobos-qi6nj
    @milandobos-qi6nj 3 месяца назад +2

    The xbox 360 emulator on the xbox one has a feature where if you press start and select that works as the xbox 360 home button. maybe that was originally planned for the xbox one itself

  • @AskBin
    @AskBin 3 месяца назад

    the haptic triggers is actually sick i would have loved that for racing games

  • @1337GameDev
    @1337GameDev 3 месяца назад +1

    5:19 - Yup -- because it was a cheaply made bottom for prototyping to save money on prototypes.

  • @jackofblades3171
    @jackofblades3171 3 месяца назад +1

    The original Xbox Controllers did Communicate as USB. But I didn't know if there would be driver support like the Xbox 360 Contollers got built into Windows Vista and forward.

  • @Dungeonseeker1uk
    @Dungeonseeker1uk 3 месяца назад

    The MCU is probably there because it is kinda "programmable". There's a weird language to control bare metal devices called CMSIS, the UART is the serial connection and using the MCU they would be able to tweak certain functions of the device (bluetooth/wifi power/channel, how sensitive the analogue sensors read etc etc. Once prototyped they can then "burn" the instructions onto a PLA/FPGA for retail.

  • @jckistan
    @jckistan 3 месяца назад

    holy bringle? a second channel?
    not surprised that, as a brit, ive never seen the samsung letter opener. i think theyd find their way into crime scenes and it would be a whole kerfuffle

  • @JackFront7
    @JackFront7 3 месяца назад

    I love the intro music, tf2 has music that sounds old 2000s and modern 2024 music.

  • @Grimlo9ic
    @Grimlo9ic 3 месяца назад

    The differences in the fit and finish, cleanliness, and newness of the controller parts makes me think some were sourced from older prototypes and used in this one.

  • @w00tazn
    @w00tazn 3 месяца назад +1

    I would reckon it says Xbox 360 on the back and looks like an Xbox 360 controller as a red herring in case this thing leaked. The top extra moulding thing looks like the IR stuff the OG Xbox One controllers had, and the fact that it has rumble triggers would also be a thing only Xbox One controllers would have.

  • @ErroneousClique
    @ErroneousClique 3 месяца назад

    Cool to see one of these in original box and packaging... I have a few of these but all loose. Never knew how they came new.

  • @XxDemon23xX
    @XxDemon23xX 2 месяца назад

    damn that grayscale controller looked sick!