@@themorons4837 Would be fun to see them switch content, do a wifeswap type thing and have Bringus try to revive an old iPod or similar nugget and Dank muck about with a manky old computer
Grew up in the Twin Cities, and I can vouch that their store is super cool! Also I legit thought you paid Dank to do some voice over work for a second.
looking into the company name for this device led me down a rabbit hole -- Complexx existed in Huntsville, AL until 1985, when it was acquired by Astrocom, which later became a victim of the financial crisis when it filed for bankruptcy in Minneapolis, MN in 2008. Some of the people involved at Complexx and other related companies (Cybex, Universal Data Systems, and others) have some interesting patents on file, including what appears to be an early form of a PoE-type technology for landline modems. An interesting read, if quite technical: Patent #4395590. Cybex is (apparently) notable for being one of the companies that merged to form Avocent in 2000, the world's largest manufacturer of KVM devices until it was acquired by Emerson Electric in 2008. I'll be honest, the chain of mergers and acquisitions got so confusing here that I stopped caring to search further, but still sorta interesting.
@@naw-eo5gf especially because Complexx itself died out when the Internet only had 2,000 connected hosts (1985). so any discussion that might've existed about it then is mostly lost to time now, without doing some digging into things like print media archives.
It's only a matter of time before Bringus collabs with LTT and the triangle will be complete. Or perhaps they could all collab at once to complete the triad.
Those "industrial" computers are for kitchen use in restaurants. They run the computers the chefs use to see what items come through, the ridges on top act as both a heatsink, and a horrifying way to catch frier grease for years before they get replaced.
The sounds the palm phone was making were the hard drive screaming in pain replacing it with micro flash memory would restore it to it's former palm glory
Indeed. I found one of those in E waste and the drive was about all that worked. Battery toast, screen faulty, wouldn't boot, didn't show up on USB. Even tried jump starting it with a spare battery.
technically better than when it was new. I had a lifedrive from 2006-2009 as my main on the go computer/mp3 player and that drive could definitely slow you down. I found another one for cheap in the 2010's and did the CF upgrade on it and that thing is light years faster.
fun fact about those microdrives (like in the Palm), 9/10 times they're literally just a Compact Flash card. you could just pop a CF card in it and it'll (probably) work
That's because Compact Flash is just a PATA (IDE) connector miniaturized. (well, technically it's a 50-pin subset of the PCMCIA standard, and depending on how a mode pin is set, operates either as a PC Card interface or as IDE, but I assume most modern-ish devices probably don't support the PC Card mode anymore), the newer CFast is SATA, and CFExpress is PCIe based. Compact flash cards are quite literally just a low cost/performance SSD, or in the case of this guy, micro HDDs. So it's really not surprising that many devices which use micro HDDs used the Compact Flash standard, rather than reinventing the wheel again. Interestingly, this means you can also just use any compact flash card with a pin-adapter on any old IDE based desktop PC instead of relying on slow and possibly unreliable old mechanical drives or specialist IDE SSDs.
@@Jay-ik1pt yep! i use a CF to IDE adapter in one of my older (~2008) servers. im sticking with a mechanical drive for my 98/2000/XP/whatever-the-fuck-else Pentium 3 machine just cause its a for fun machine
Onlogic an, i think dutch company actually creates these orange boxes i believe (at least i am getting lots of advertisements from them which show the exact same pc) and they are indeed embedded computers and you can select your specs and os.
That sata drive is useful... For a NAS server. Basically it holds the OS leaving the drives entirely available for what ever weird ass raid config you intend to run.
I always like when free geek sends people stuff cause you can tell they ACTUALLY watch people's videos rather than just sending them random stuff so they can get a promotion.
that Dazzle is a MPEG-1 video and audio encoder/decoder (and analog video capture card). it can record video in realtime at 30fps but also enables video playback on Win95 computers that don't have enough CPU to decode video in software. printer port is just a passthrough because your computer would only have one parallel port also DOM stands for "Disk on Module" and they were common in industrial and embedded computers. they're meant for when you have a small operating system that doesn't warrant a hard drive - uses less power, more reliable because it's flash storage, and doesn't take up much space in your computer
Yes DOM was used on many industrial computer, they first came with IDE interface and later generation got SATA interface, their size is small because, it's just contain a minimum OS setup and the program used to control any industrial machines
SATA DOMs don't need an external power connection if the motherboard has a special powered SATA DOM ports, or they can work in regular SATA ports with external power
Also there's in some computers (like embedded or server environments) that would be able to power SATA DOMs purely from the SATA port. They would basically add a pin 0 and pin 8 to the outside of the SATA connector that would provide a ground and power connection for the DOM to use.
That Logic Supply PC is designed for industrial use in factories etc. We actually use them in the mill complex I work at in extreme temp/gas areas because all other PCs die after 15 seconds.
If there is one person in the world who could set up a collab with dankpods where you both impersonate eachother, that person would be you, Jon Bringus
Funny bit about the "ipodness" when taking apart the palmone is that the ipod minis used microdrives too. You can actually get a microflash drive and replace the spinning platter drives for better performance and reliability
Yes, you can replace it with 4GB or 8GB CompactFlash card, it's much faster and also no noise, and of course, run much cooler and consume less power than the original microdrive disk
9:54 - Cub is a Minnesota grocery chain. That aside, MAN Free Geek is amazing to go to. When I first went there, I was bedazzled by the fact I could understand what everyone was talking about when I walked in.
4:29 I set my ringtone/alarm noise to the Nook's Cranny music 7 years ago. It would be fun, I thought. Now EVERY time I hear it in a video I get INSTANT anxiety lol. iPhone alarm noise but you hear it every time someone wants to evoke the funny tanuki store.
@@prince_snicker Oh I ended up finding it later through a different video that actually puts their music choice in the description. The music is the body measurement theme from Wii Fit.
There are SataDOM ports that are specifically for those things that have both data and power. I have never seen them outside of servers though, but you can still find them on some servers today, like a lot of Supermicro boards have them.
When running old software on pc usually processor and windows tend to be compatibile or configurable to be conpatibile. This is where IGPU comes in. Intel integrated gpu:HD,3000,4000,Iris are ancient architectures that don't have problems with old software compared to things like Nvidia post Pascal generation and AMD post RDNA arch. Also tools like DXVK or DX9py which act as translation layer between proprietary graphical libraries and OpenGL or Vulkan can make programs run. And sometimes it's as simple as ap not being able to resize window or utilize windows desktop manager DWM.exe so it runs only in fullscreen.
8:55 That is just a passthrough because one would not want to loose one's parallel port by using this device! A lot of devices that used the parallel port had these passthroughs, almost all I would guess, actually!
tip for the PalmOne thing: the microdrive is compatible with CompactFlash cards, you could clone the drive to a CF card or SD to CF adapter and it *should* just work
7:25 Hey, that might be the exact brick my old laptop uses! Fun fact, you can find the same yellow sticker on power supplies that come with dynabook laptops, I've got 3 laptops a total of 14 years apart oldest to newest, all three of them have it!
i would send that ASCII data generator to "Adrian's digital basement" could also be sent to someone else but this is the youtuber i know that can tell you exactly what it does and how to use it
Digital Forensic investigator here. That write blocker was sure a great find, and you're right; We do use them when acquiring artefacts from storage media, especially for use in court. There are software write blockers as well, but those can be less reliable, and thus, the courts don't always accept them. Newer write blockers tend to calculate the hash for the media as well, so you can compare it to the hash in your acquisition software and of the image as well.
Those small industrial PCs you showed there at the end would be a perfect match for the Little Guys series on Cathode Ray Dude's channel here on RUclips. That series is all about these types of machines. In fact, I think he did mention that he was gonna do an episode about exact orange-silver one you got from Free Geek at some point...
That ruggedized computer at the end with the bright orange sides is from the company that later became OnLogic - they make great industrial computers / IoT gateways etc. typically without fans but with heatsinks built into the case itself.
I walked away for a brief moment to get some water, and I had to rewind the video because I wasn’t sure if that was a DankPods impression or if it was actually just a clip pulled from one of his videos, that was flawless
That Dankpods impression was so good you manifested an EEeeEeEE PEEeEeEe cEeEEEeE into the box
fr tho, i found bringus after dankpods so its just funny to see him do that, i wish i could see both of them do a colab together, would be amazing
@@themorons4837 Would be fun to see them switch content, do a wifeswap type thing and have Bringus try to revive an old iPod or similar nugget and Dank muck about with a manky old computer
@@themorons4837 Have you ever seen them in the same room together 🤔
And so is LGR one.
@@themorons4837 Installing Steam os on an ipod
That Dankpods impression was far too spot-on to be ignored
I legit thought he just took a sound bite until it kept going 😂 and funnily enough Dankpods uploaded a few hours before this video
Nah, he is frankless 😐
Came here to say that.
The best part about it is that palm device uses the same HDD as an iPod mini
@@polocatfan i've never heard this nor can i immediately find any evidence of this
Your impression of DankPods DID NOT have to be THIS good, it was almost uncanny-like, Mr. DingusPods!
yes
Timestamp?
@@TripleLLe 13:41
He’s bringus pods
mom!!, the Dollar store dankpod upload!!
"We have Dankpods at home!"
Dankpods at home:
In the next cashies special he bought a youtube channel
Dankpod is the best way to describe the ever so awesome dankpods impersonation lol
the funnier and less annoying version
Jajajajaj
That dankpods impression was suspiciously on point
DankPods is suspiciously Non-Aussie sounding today
Grew up in the Twin Cities, and I can vouch that their store is super cool!
Also I legit thought you paid Dank to do some voice over work for a second.
I'm currently in the Twin Cities, keep hearing about it, and have never gone. Also: can confirm Cub Foods are all over the damn place.
I really gotta go some day
You all are lucky to afford living in Twin Cities because of this nice store.
"it's got the whole spinny drive and everything" was delivered EXACTLY like dankpods, that was awesome
The "ASCII data generator" uses a bunch of counters to read out an EPROM into a UART (the AY-3-1015D). It's used for testing serial terminals.
thanks i couldn't find anything about it online (cuz the internet is dead lol)
I think CuriousMarc demonstrated one on his channel which worked very much the same way- and is considerably older than this one.
Can you explain this for an idiot? Genuinely no idea what this does.
looking into the company name for this device led me down a rabbit hole -- Complexx existed in Huntsville, AL until 1985, when it was acquired by Astrocom, which later became a victim of the financial crisis when it filed for bankruptcy in Minneapolis, MN in 2008. Some of the people involved at Complexx and other related companies (Cybex, Universal Data Systems, and others) have some interesting patents on file, including what appears to be an early form of a PoE-type technology for landline modems. An interesting read, if quite technical: Patent #4395590.
Cybex is (apparently) notable for being one of the companies that merged to form Avocent in 2000, the world's largest manufacturer of KVM devices until it was acquired by Emerson Electric in 2008. I'll be honest, the chain of mergers and acquisitions got so confusing here that I stopped caring to search further, but still sorta interesting.
@@naw-eo5gf especially because Complexx itself died out when the Internet only had 2,000 connected hosts (1985). so any discussion that might've existed about it then is mostly lost to time now, without doing some digging into things like print media archives.
Those interchangeable tips for the universal charger look like fantastic points to hook your power supply leads to...
Oh my God you are a GENUIS
The Dankpods lore expands...
It's only a matter of time before Bringus collabs with LTT and the triangle will be complete. Or perhaps they could all collab at once to complete the triad.
bringus giving out 260$ worth of windows keys:
that's like, one whole product key!
@@brytonbreese2475 maybe 1.83
Meanwhile MAS existing:
I think that Windows LTSC/LTSB license key cost far more than $260
has it been used yet
13:30 we need to bring dankpods to watch it... he definitely loves it
you assume that he hasnt watched this already?
that was a shockingly good dankpods impression
bro you CANT be making this joke at 13:40 when I JUST GOT DONE WATCHING A DANKPODS VIDEO LMFAOOO
You channeled Dankpods energy directly on that one, holy cow.
Those "industrial" computers are for kitchen use in restaurants. They run the computers the chefs use to see what items come through, the ridges on top act as both a heatsink, and a horrifying way to catch frier grease for years before they get replaced.
They also get used in big factories to control machinery and robots
atleast the grease aint getting inside the case and fry whatever is inside
The sounds the palm phone was making were the hard drive screaming in pain replacing it with micro flash memory would restore it to it's former palm glory
Indeed. I found one of those in E waste and the drive was about all that worked. Battery toast, screen faulty, wouldn't boot, didn't show up on USB. Even tried jump starting it with a spare battery.
technically better than when it was new. I had a lifedrive from 2006-2009 as my main on the go computer/mp3 player and that drive could definitely slow you down. I found another one for cheap in the 2010's and did the CF upgrade on it and that thing is light years faster.
fun fact about those microdrives (like in the Palm), 9/10 times they're literally just a Compact Flash card. you could just pop a CF card in it and it'll (probably) work
Extrange
That's because Compact Flash is just a PATA (IDE) connector miniaturized. (well, technically it's a 50-pin subset of the PCMCIA standard, and depending on how a mode pin is set, operates either as a PC Card interface or as IDE, but I assume most modern-ish devices probably don't support the PC Card mode anymore), the newer CFast is SATA, and CFExpress is PCIe based. Compact flash cards are quite literally just a low cost/performance SSD, or in the case of this guy, micro HDDs. So it's really not surprising that many devices which use micro HDDs used the Compact Flash standard, rather than reinventing the wheel again.
Interestingly, this means you can also just use any compact flash card with a pin-adapter on any old IDE based desktop PC instead of relying on slow and possibly unreliable old mechanical drives or specialist IDE SSDs.
@@Jay-ik1pt yep! i use a CF to IDE adapter in one of my older (~2008) servers. im sticking with a mechanical drive for my 98/2000/XP/whatever-the-fuck-else Pentium 3 machine just cause its a for fun machine
@@Jay-ik1pt cfast is pcie according to google
Judging from the sound it makes, no that's really a spinning drive.
That orange computer might be in an industrial computer. They're designed to be in factories
That is 100% what it is. Windows IoT is just slapped on every flavor of them. There's windows in places that windows should never go because of those.
I don't know what it is but I want to run my Linux on it. Where and for how much can I buy one?
Little guys
Onlogic an, i think dutch company actually creates these orange boxes i believe (at least i am getting lots of advertisements from them which show the exact same pc) and they are indeed embedded computers and you can select your specs and os.
not only factories also restaurateurs
I love when my favourite creators mention each other. The dankpods impression floored me.
That sata drive is useful... For a NAS server. Basically it holds the OS leaving the drives entirely available for what ever weird ass raid config you intend to run.
Dankpods was mentioned.
RIP dankpods
I'm going to visit my grandparents up in Minneapolis in a week, that free geek location is 20 mins from their house... I AM GOING FOR THE EWASTE WOOOO
They have uncommon hours, make sure to check their site
the dankpods impression was truly beautiful, i really hope he sees this video
Amazing to get a box of e waste this personal. It's 100% from a fan that has seen all of your videos.
I always like when free geek sends people stuff cause you can tell they ACTUALLY watch people's videos rather than just sending them random stuff so they can get a promotion.
that Dazzle is a MPEG-1 video and audio encoder/decoder (and analog video capture card). it can record video in realtime at 30fps but also enables video playback on Win95 computers that don't have enough CPU to decode video in software. printer port is just a passthrough because your computer would only have one parallel port
also DOM stands for "Disk on Module" and they were common in industrial and embedded computers. they're meant for when you have a small operating system that doesn't warrant a hard drive - uses less power, more reliable because it's flash storage, and doesn't take up much space in your computer
Also, it used a parallel port because it predated the widespread availability of USB.
Yes DOM was used on many industrial computer, they first came with IDE interface and later generation got SATA interface, their size is small because, it's just contain a minimum OS setup and the program used to control any industrial machines
Bro that Dankpods impression was too good. Got a genuine giggle out of me lmao
rip dankpods
Can we acknowledge for a sec how bad ass Bea pippin is for a name
Think we found Bea.
@beapippin1110 wait, are you them?
17:08 love Linus on the border
SATA DOMs used to be used for stuff like hypervisors where you only needed a tiny storage for the host OS and didn't want to use up drive bays
SATA DOMs don't need an external power connection if the motherboard has a special powered SATA DOM ports, or they can work in regular SATA ports with external power
the dankpods impression was really good
So happy to see something local as a regular at free geek getting into some of my favorite content creators' hands
But they’re local ONLY. Not for somebody in VA like me.
That tiny SSD probably got used for industrial setups or those ones where it's an entire computer on an expansion card.
Also there's in some computers (like embedded or server environments) that would be able to power SATA DOMs purely from the SATA port. They would basically add a pin 0 and pin 8 to the outside of the SATA connector that would provide a ground and power connection for the DOM to use.
That Logic Supply PC is designed for industrial use in factories etc. We actually use them in the mill complex I work at in extreme temp/gas areas because all other PCs die after 15 seconds.
I did NOT expect a DankPods reference out of a Bringus video! That 10-second segment was so spot on with the music and everything!
17:26 Email sent! We have enough to fill your storage unit ourselves! Lol.
The Dazzle thing, old parallel devices often had a passthrough so u can hook up ur printer still, that's all that port is.
If there is one person in the world who could set up a collab with dankpods where you both impersonate eachother, that person would be you, Jon Bringus
Funny bit about the "ipodness" when taking apart the palmone is that the ipod minis used microdrives too. You can actually get a microflash drive and replace the spinning platter drives for better performance and reliability
Your Dankpods impression was so amazing holy.
Did use activation key 11:14
Boomer technology had me in tears😂. Im so glad i found this channel. You have to be right around my age
10:52 DANKPODS REFRENCE!!!!!!
Eeeeeee pc
@@DadOfWar623 oh my pkcell....
the dank pods impression was too spot on, the editing and everything 🤣🤣
I love Freegeek Twin Cities. My brother goes to school down in the cities and I always have to swing by and buy something
13:41 DANKPODS REFERENCE
This feels like a more chill dankpods episode but if he was american. Really enjoyed this!
OH also, with that Lifedrive, look into replacing that Microdrive with a CompactFlash card :) It was a very popular mod in its time.
Yes, you can replace it with 4GB or 8GB CompactFlash card, it's much faster and also no noise, and of course, run much cooler and consume less power than the original microdrive disk
0:55 fun fact: it’s physically impossible to have a usps flat rate box exceed its max weight of 70lbs
13:47 ANOTHER DANKPODS REFRENCE
9:54 - Cub is a Minnesota grocery chain. That aside, MAN Free Geek is amazing to go to. When I first went there, I was bedazzled by the fact I could understand what everyone was talking about when I walked in.
Ahh free windows key, time to call their Customer Support and keep upgrading the OS, until you have win11 registered with that key.
And funnily enough it's for the version of windows I use 😂
4:29 I set my ringtone/alarm noise to the Nook's Cranny music 7 years ago.
It would be fun, I thought.
Now EVERY time I hear it in a video I get INSTANT anxiety lol.
iPhone alarm noise but you hear it every time someone wants to evoke the funny tanuki store.
Packing tape, the best form of privacy protection!
The letter they put in there was very very creative, I loved that one!
16:51 A vampire bit someone wearing this t-shirt.
That dankpods impression was on point.
Whats that music at 13:52. It's from the Wii or DSI era but I can't place it among Nintendo's massive library of menu music.
that’s what i’m trying to find out.. i’ll update you if i find out anything.
@@prince_snicker Oh I ended up finding it later through a different video that actually puts their music choice in the description.
The music is the body measurement theme from Wii Fit.
@@bhume7535 i knew i recognized it from WiiFit!
There are SataDOM ports that are specifically for those things that have both data and power.
I have never seen them outside of servers though, but you can still find them on some servers today, like a lot of Supermicro boards have them.
A lot of arcade cabinets have them plugged directly into the motherboard to laod the os
Theory both Bringus and Dankpods are long lost twins!
Idk how I never found your channels until now. Def some of the best enjoyment I have had in a while on yt. Subscribed. Can't wait to see more.
dankpods impression is top notch
that dankpods impression was too good
Why is there a little linus on 17:07 bro
If you think about it for half a second, the Linus is where Linus is... Vancouver area b.c. Canada
When running old software on pc usually processor and windows tend to be compatibile or configurable to be conpatibile. This is where IGPU comes in. Intel integrated gpu:HD,3000,4000,Iris are ancient architectures that don't have problems with old software compared to things like Nvidia post Pascal generation and AMD post RDNA arch. Also tools like DXVK or DX9py which act as translation layer between proprietary graphical libraries and OpenGL or Vulkan can make programs run. And sometimes it's as simple as ap not being able to resize window or utilize windows desktop manager DWM.exe so it runs only in fullscreen.
6:22 IS SO FUNNY BRO
keep up the videos man.
8:55 That is just a passthrough because one would not want to loose one's parallel port by using this device! A lot of devices that used the parallel port had these passthroughs, almost all I would guess, actually!
14:10 radiation goes mad
that dank pods impression was so good we need to send this video to wade
You fool, you left the cost of shipping as well as the weight on the box. We now have a perfect circle of where your house could be.
17:06 narrowed the circle for you
13:46 OMG THAT IMPRESSION WAS TOO GOOD
THE DINGUS WIRE
the dank pods impression was just satisfying
2:05 maybe now i can give my fiancé the ba-OH GOD 😦
tip for the PalmOne thing: the microdrive is compatible with CompactFlash cards, you could clone the drive to a CF card or SD to CF adapter and it *should* just work
10:45 Even better, it's an _eee pee cee_
That Dankpods impression was spot on.
Oh yeah, Mate! Love me some good eWaste
That impression of Dank Pods was perfect wtf
7:00 Mean Bean Machine?
7:25 Hey, that might be the exact brick my old laptop uses!
Fun fact, you can find the same yellow sticker on power supplies that come with dynabook laptops, I've got 3 laptops a total of 14 years apart oldest to newest, all three of them have it!
6:28 *HE KNOWS*
personally I would love to see this as a regular series! some of the guff you get is astonishing!
5:25 oh This is Boomer technology got me.
Same🤣
i would send that ASCII data generator to "Adrian's digital basement" could also be sent to someone else but this is the youtuber i know that can tell you exactly what it does and how to use it
Yes I love ewaste
lol 13:35
omg you nailed the DankPods part, that was amazing
Digital Forensic investigator here. That write blocker was sure a great find, and you're right; We do use them when acquiring artefacts from storage media, especially for use in court. There are software write blockers as well, but those can be less reliable, and thus, the courts don't always accept them. Newer write blockers tend to calculate the hash for the media as well, so you can compare it to the hash in your acquisition software and of the image as well.
This dude managed to use every single soundtrack in my video game playlist, subbing just for the nostalgia
I’ve been there in person several times. It’s quite fun to look at the stuff they have there every once in a while
Coming in person is MANDATORY.
@@isaacwright2247 indeed
I used a Dazzle for several years when I first started my job. Worked surprisingly well.
I also used a Life Drive. It was my go-to MP3 player and movie box for a good long while.
Those small industrial PCs you showed there at the end would be a perfect match for the Little Guys series on Cathode Ray Dude's channel here on RUclips.
That series is all about these types of machines. In fact, I think he did mention that he was gonna do an episode about exact orange-silver one you got from Free Geek at some point...
That ruggedized computer at the end with the bright orange sides is from the company that later became OnLogic - they make great industrial computers / IoT gateways etc. typically without fans but with heatsinks built into the case itself.
"Gotta make sure we don't rip the DINGUS WIRE!?!" LMFAO I'm dead.
I walked away for a brief moment to get some water, and I had to rewind the video because I wasn’t sure if that was a DankPods impression or if it was actually just a clip pulled from one of his videos, that was flawless
You should be able to swap out that Palm's microdrive for a CompactFlash card - or an SD-to-CF adapter.
That is a terrifyingly good wade/dankpods impression.