looking into the company name for this device led me down a rabbit hole -- Complexx existed in Huntsville, AL until 1985, when it was acquired by Astrocom, which later became a victim of the financial crisis when it filed for bankruptcy in Minneapolis, MN in 2008. Some of the people involved at Complexx and other related companies (Cybex, Universal Data Systems, and others) have some interesting patents on file, including what appears to be an early form of a PoE-type technology for landline modems. An interesting read, if quite technical: Patent #4395590. Cybex is (apparently) notable for being one of the companies that merged to form Avocent in 2000, the world's largest manufacturer of KVM devices until it was acquired by Emerson Electric in 2008. I'll be honest, the chain of mergers and acquisitions got so confusing here that I stopped caring to search further, but still sorta interesting.
@@naw-eo5gf especially because Complexx itself died out when the Internet only had 2,000 connected hosts (1985). so any discussion that might've existed about it then is mostly lost to time now, without doing some digging into things like print media archives.
The sounds the palm phone was making were the hard drive screaming in pain replacing it with micro flash memory would restore it to it's former palm glory
Indeed. I found one of those in E waste and the drive was about all that worked. Battery toast, screen faulty, wouldn't boot, didn't show up on USB. Even tried jump starting it with a spare battery.
technically better than when it was new. I had a lifedrive from 2006-2009 as my main on the go computer/mp3 player and that drive could definitely slow you down. I found another one for cheap in the 2010's and did the CF upgrade on it and that thing is light years faster.
That sata drive is useful... For a NAS server. Basically it holds the OS leaving the drives entirely available for what ever weird ass raid config you intend to run.
If there is one person in the world who could set up a collab with dankpods where you both impersonate eachother, that person would be you, Jon Bringus
4:29 I set my ringtone/alarm noise to the Nook's Cranny music 7 years ago. It would be fun, I thought. Now EVERY time I hear it in a video I get INSTANT anxiety lol. iPhone alarm noise but you hear it every time someone wants to evoke the funny tanuki store.
There are SataDOM ports that are specifically for those things that have both data and power. I have never seen them outside of servers though, but you can still find them on some servers today, like a lot of Supermicro boards have them.
When running old software on pc usually processor and windows tend to be compatibile or configurable to be conpatibile. This is where IGPU comes in. Intel integrated gpu:HD,3000,4000,Iris are ancient architectures that don't have problems with old software compared to things like Nvidia post Pascal generation and AMD post RDNA arch. Also tools like DXVK or DX9py which act as translation layer between proprietary graphical libraries and OpenGL or Vulkan can make programs run. And sometimes it's as simple as ap not being able to resize window or utilize windows desktop manager DWM.exe so it runs only in fullscreen.
That SATA thing is a "Disk On Module." They're often used in industrial PCs and servers where you need a small amount of storage for software. They also have IDE versions. Though nowadays they've been mostly replaced by 2242 NVME drives.
A SATADOM is incredibly useful. On some servers there will be an open port on the motherboard for that to plug into, and you can boot off it like a hypervisor like ProxMox as an operating system, freeing up the bigger faster drives for virtual machines.
The Logic Supply PC used to use that model Water/Wastewater plants as remote scada computers. Solid computers but had to replace the hard drive as the installed one was prone to failure in a higher temp environment.
That ancient HDD Palm needs to have a decent CF card installed and see if it recovers. Not completely useless! I've got a 5GB one somewhere but it is slow as treacle along with a 2GB IDE SSD.
That ruggedized computer at the end with the bright orange sides is from the company that later became OnLogic - they make great industrial computers / IoT gateways etc. typically without fans but with heatsinks built into the case itself.
That ascii data gen was in an old project box that was used for a lot of 80’s and 90’s home made/ kit pedals so that thing must’ve been a NICHE company
I used to have this palmOne life drives. It was a pretty amazing little PalmPilot for the day. You should make a video of it maybe installing an SSD. I think there’s a community that still supports these little guys.
im a volunteer at FreeGeek Of Arkansas we r more or less the same. since im a volunteer i tend to get first call on stuff that comes in. the best thing i got from there is a rare sony google TV thats 45in in size for $5 becuz it was going to be recycled. at the time i didnt even know it was rare just that it was a big sony TV that looked nice and i wanted it.
5:40 Actually, we know exactly what to do with this device! It would be great for generating ASCII text for some of our rarer terminals...thanks for the video! And a shout-out to my friends at Free Geek Twin Cities!!! OK, seriously though, I would like to buy this item from you, because it's just the kind of Forgotten Machine-Device that we love to dive into!
11:43 It's not standard, but powered SATA ports are actually a thing for exactly this type of drive. They stick another power and ground in the sides of the connector, and you can plug a compatible DOM into the board directly with no other power.
16:24 Oh hey! A Visix! I had one of those. They have a bog standard Intel Desktop Board (DH61AG) in it with a 3rd gen Intel Core i3 processor. it should also have 4GB of RAM and (in my case) a 64GB SSD with Windows 7 Embedded. Good little machine for what it is. Very quiet and pretty low power!
Dazzle that’s a name that brings me back. When everyone wanted to be the next avgn or do this new thing call a let’s play you knew who was good and who wasn’t if they spent the 50$ for a dazzle to capture gameplay or if they pointed a camera at there crt
That printer port on the capture unit is typical for that era. Usually you'd see it on scanners too, because you basically plug in that peripheral to the pc and then daisy chain your printer from that unit. It was the only way to still be fully functional since nothing was hot swappable. Also, I'd say that fake sd card was there to stop dust/lint and other things getting trapped in there when the port wasnt being used and based on when that pc was around, it probably wasnt a common use port (but tbf, I dont even know if SD on a pc was ever a common use? i personally thought they were a waste of space)
UAC, to fix dark screen when uac pops up. Type in menu start uac and find 'user account control settings' and drop one level from default 3/4 to 2/4 still default 'but do not dim my desktop'
PLEASE LOOK INTO THE 2001 GEN LATITUDES (I HAVE A LATITUDE 2100). That dingus (from my experience) can be a FULL source SFM, also because it has pagefile memory, it can pull additional ram from the internal storage
afaik free geek is a charity that specialises in that no-mans-land of ewaste where its not broken, its just worthless to most. they give these functional-but-creaky machines to those in need of any machine.
Free Geek Twin Cities is a non-profit electronics thrift store and recycling center. We get donations of old stuff, sure, but we also get perfectly fine and functional modern tech that we fit with Windows or Linux and provide at low costs to help bridge the digital divide. Source - I work there.
I do have “the worlds greatest pos system” (actual branding on the box) complete with dual monitors (one monitor on front and back) just taking up space if your interested.
That funky sata drive at 11:23 was for server use as a boot drive where you don't want to waste space for an actual harddrive just to boot the os off of.
I have the same eee pc and I love it.I LOVE the small form factor and how jank it is. It just sucks that they're limited to 32 bit cpus so even linux can't save them.
That Dankpods impression was far too spot-on to be ignored
I legit thought he just took a sound bite until it kept going 😂 and funnily enough Dankpods uploaded a few hours before this video
Nah, he is frankless 😐
Came here to say that.
The best part about it is that palm device uses the same HDD as an iPod mini
@@polocatfan i've never heard this nor can i immediately find any evidence of this
Your impression of DankPods DID NOT have to be THIS good, it was almost uncanny-like, Mr. DingusPods!
yes
Timestamp?
@@TripleLLe 13:41
He’s bringus pods
That dankpods impression was suspiciously on point
DankPods is suspiciously Non-Aussie sounding today
The "ASCII data generator" uses a bunch of counters to read out an EPROM into a UART (the AY-3-1015D). It's used for testing serial terminals.
thanks i couldn't find anything about it online (cuz the internet is dead lol)
I think CuriousMarc demonstrated one on his channel which worked very much the same way- and is considerably older than this one.
Can you explain this for an idiot? Genuinely no idea what this does.
looking into the company name for this device led me down a rabbit hole -- Complexx existed in Huntsville, AL until 1985, when it was acquired by Astrocom, which later became a victim of the financial crisis when it filed for bankruptcy in Minneapolis, MN in 2008. Some of the people involved at Complexx and other related companies (Cybex, Universal Data Systems, and others) have some interesting patents on file, including what appears to be an early form of a PoE-type technology for landline modems. An interesting read, if quite technical: Patent #4395590.
Cybex is (apparently) notable for being one of the companies that merged to form Avocent in 2000, the world's largest manufacturer of KVM devices until it was acquired by Emerson Electric in 2008. I'll be honest, the chain of mergers and acquisitions got so confusing here that I stopped caring to search further, but still sorta interesting.
@@naw-eo5gf especially because Complexx itself died out when the Internet only had 2,000 connected hosts (1985). so any discussion that might've existed about it then is mostly lost to time now, without doing some digging into things like print media archives.
bringus giving out 260$ worth of windows keys:
that's like, one whole product key!
@@brytonbreese2475 maybe 1.83
Meanwhile MAS existing:
I think that Windows LTSC/LTSB license key cost far more than $260
has it been used yet
"it's got the whole spinny drive and everything" was delivered EXACTLY like dankpods, that was awesome
Those interchangeable tips for the universal charger look like fantastic points to hook your power supply leads to...
Oh my God you are a GENUIS
The sounds the palm phone was making were the hard drive screaming in pain replacing it with micro flash memory would restore it to it's former palm glory
Indeed. I found one of those in E waste and the drive was about all that worked. Battery toast, screen faulty, wouldn't boot, didn't show up on USB. Even tried jump starting it with a spare battery.
technically better than when it was new. I had a lifedrive from 2006-2009 as my main on the go computer/mp3 player and that drive could definitely slow you down. I found another one for cheap in the 2010's and did the CF upgrade on it and that thing is light years faster.
that was a shockingly good dankpods impression
You channeled Dankpods energy directly on that one, holy cow.
That sata drive is useful... For a NAS server. Basically it holds the OS leaving the drives entirely available for what ever weird ass raid config you intend to run.
Dankpods was mentioned.
RIP dankpods
Bro that Dankpods impression was too good. Got a genuine giggle out of me lmao
rip dankpods
Amazing to get a box of e waste this personal. It's 100% from a fan that has seen all of your videos.
Can we acknowledge for a sec how bad ass Bea pippin is for a name
thanks, picked it myself :)
Think we found Bea.
@@beapippin1110 wait, are you them?
10:52 DANKPODS REFRENCE!!!!!!
Eeeeeee pc
@@DadOfWar623 oh my pkcell....
Did use activation key 11:14
If there is one person in the world who could set up a collab with dankpods where you both impersonate eachother, that person would be you, Jon Bringus
that dank pods impression was so good we need to send this video to wade
14:10 radiation goes mad
the dank pods impression was too spot on, the editing and everything 🤣🤣
The Dazzle thing, old parallel devices often had a passthrough so u can hook up ur printer still, that's all that port is.
That is a terrifyingly good wade/dankpods impression.
10:45 Even better, it's an _eee pee cee_
Amazing Dankpods impression
Edit: yeah this was fun
4:29 I set my ringtone/alarm noise to the Nook's Cranny music 7 years ago.
It would be fun, I thought.
Now EVERY time I hear it in a video I get INSTANT anxiety lol.
iPhone alarm noise but you hear it every time someone wants to evoke the funny tanuki store.
That impression of Dank Pods was perfect wtf
The highlight on the video now beams you straight to the dankpods impression with sponsorblock
Why is there a little linus on 17:07 bro
If you think about it for half a second, the Linus is where Linus is... Vancouver area b.c. Canada
There are SataDOM ports that are specifically for those things that have both data and power.
I have never seen them outside of servers though, but you can still find them on some servers today, like a lot of Supermicro boards have them.
When running old software on pc usually processor and windows tend to be compatibile or configurable to be conpatibile. This is where IGPU comes in. Intel integrated gpu:HD,3000,4000,Iris are ancient architectures that don't have problems with old software compared to things like Nvidia post Pascal generation and AMD post RDNA arch. Also tools like DXVK or DX9py which act as translation layer between proprietary graphical libraries and OpenGL or Vulkan can make programs run. And sometimes it's as simple as ap not being able to resize window or utilize windows desktop manager DWM.exe so it runs only in fullscreen.
That SATA thing is a "Disk On Module." They're often used in industrial PCs and servers where you need a small amount of storage for software. They also have IDE versions. Though nowadays they've been mostly replaced by 2242 NVME drives.
Orange sata ports like on SuperMicro boards are powered and will accept the SATADom without any extra power.
A SATADOM is incredibly useful. On some servers there will be an open port on the motherboard for that to plug into, and you can boot off it like a hypervisor like ProxMox as an operating system, freeing up the bigger faster drives for virtual machines.
That metalpipe sound effect transition was perfect lmao
I actually used to fix these Eee PCs at my first job, really brought me back
The Logic Supply PC used to use that model Water/Wastewater plants as remote scada computers. Solid computers but had to replace the hard drive as the installed one was prone to failure in a higher temp environment.
omg you nailed the DankPods part, that was amazing
That ancient HDD Palm needs to have a decent CF card installed and see if it recovers. Not completely useless! I've got a 5GB one somewhere but it is slow as treacle along with a 2GB IDE SSD.
personally I would love to see this as a regular series! some of the guff you get is astonishing!
2:05 maybe now i can give my fiancé the ba-OH GOD 😦
13:34 I knew that was the reason the algorithm kept recommending me this channel!
I used a Dazzle for several years when I first started my job. Worked surprisingly well.
I also used a Life Drive. It was my go-to MP3 player and movie box for a good long while.
Your dankpods impression is on point
Yes I love ewaste
That ruggedized computer at the end with the bright orange sides is from the company that later became OnLogic - they make great industrial computers / IoT gateways etc. typically without fans but with heatsinks built into the case itself.
That ascii data gen was in an old project box that was used for a lot of 80’s and 90’s home made/ kit pedals so that thing must’ve been a NICHE company
sata doms are used for operatingsystems in servers or server based routers btw
i love that palm lifedrive so so much. i have one of my own somewhere! i need to put flash storage in it as a mod and use it entirely for text twist
on the palm thingy you could just directly plug a CF flash card in if it works like a ipod nano
I used to have this palmOne life drives. It was a pretty amazing little PalmPilot for the day. You should make a video of it maybe installing an SSD. I think there’s a community that still supports these little guys.
that dankpods impersonation was AMAZING
The printer port on the Dazzle is probably a pass-through.
That letter was adorable, they seem nice!
im a volunteer at FreeGeek Of Arkansas we r more or less the same. since im a volunteer i tend to get first call on stuff that comes in. the best thing i got from there is a rare sony google TV thats 45in in size for $5 becuz it was going to be recycled. at the time i didnt even know it was rare just that it was a big sony TV that looked nice and i wanted it.
lol 13:35
5:40 Actually, we know exactly what to do with this device! It would be great for generating ASCII text for some of our rarer terminals...thanks for the video! And a shout-out to my friends at Free Geek Twin Cities!!! OK, seriously though, I would like to buy this item from you, because it's just the kind of Forgotten Machine-Device that we love to dive into!
There are sata DOMs with power on the port. But these you only get on workstation server boards
it's so funny that you referenced the Australian guy, because I clicked on this video thinking it was him
Babyz was made by the same people who made Petz - I HIGHLY recommend looking at the art for the Petz series on CD because it's similarly cursed
11:43 It's not standard, but powered SATA ports are actually a thing for exactly this type of drive. They stick another power and ground in the sides of the connector, and you can plug a compatible DOM into the board directly with no other power.
You must archive the babyz game cd on the internet archive
16:24 Oh hey! A Visix! I had one of those. They have a bog standard Intel Desktop Board (DH61AG) in it with a 3rd gen Intel Core i3 processor. it should also have 4GB of RAM and (in my case) a 64GB SSD with Windows 7 Embedded. Good little machine for what it is. Very quiet and pretty low power!
Dazzle that’s a name that brings me back. When everyone wanted to be the next avgn or do this new thing call a let’s play you knew who was good and who wasn’t if they spent the 50$ for a dazzle to capture gameplay or if they pointed a camera at there crt
I was looking at another screen when you did your Dankpods impression and was soooo confused.
Now, i need, a collab!
You should be able to hook up the ascii generator to a parallel printer and trigger it to print out pre programmed messages
That letter passed the vibe check
That printer port on the capture unit is typical for that era. Usually you'd see it on scanners too, because you basically plug in that peripheral to the pc and then daisy chain your printer from that unit. It was the only way to still be fully functional since nothing was hot swappable. Also, I'd say that fake sd card was there to stop dust/lint and other things getting trapped in there when the port wasnt being used and based on when that pc was around, it probably wasnt a common use port (but tbf, I dont even know if SD on a pc was ever a common use? i personally thought they were a waste of space)
Bro just casually drops a dead ringer DankPods impression like it's nothing
UAC, to fix dark screen when uac pops up. Type in menu start uac and find 'user account control settings' and drop one level from default 3/4 to 2/4 still default 'but do not dim my desktop'
Those fanless IPC's are often used in factory equipment as well
I've visited free geek, really crazy stuff!
14:09 IT WORKS?! Do a full video on this someday, it seems like a really cool piece of tech!
PLEASE LOOK INTO THE 2001 GEN LATITUDES (I HAVE A LATITUDE 2100). That dingus (from my experience) can be a FULL source SFM, also because it has pagefile memory, it can pull additional ram from the internal storage
That Palm one is sweeeeeeeeet! You can swap the Microdrive for a Compact Flash card and it'll be good too go! 😉
afaik free geek is a charity that specialises in that no-mans-land of ewaste where its not broken, its just worthless to most. they give these functional-but-creaky machines to those in need of any machine.
Free Geek Twin Cities is a non-profit electronics thrift store and recycling center. We get donations of old stuff, sure, but we also get perfectly fine and functional modern tech that we fit with Windows or Linux and provide at low costs to help bridge the digital divide.
Source - I work there.
Something interesting is that the ascii generator has a GI sound chip in it
I'm here for the industrial computer showdown video when it comes about
I user to work at a place that put the largest of those Logic PCs you had in industrial controllers. It's just a regular fanless PC.
You could probably save that palm device with a compactflash to sd adapter lol (that or just a compactflash drive itself)
That USB hub is sick, and I think the one I have is gigabit, super useful.
I do have “the worlds greatest pos system” (actual branding on the box) complete with dual monitors (one monitor on front and back) just taking up space if your interested.
I remember the old Windows 95/98 shareware with the AOL free trials and all that. I am so glad those days are behind us.
I love free geek !! So much fun to visit there
Ironic he mentioned Dankpods when he did since that Palm thing used the same drive as an iPod Mini
That funky sata drive at 11:23 was for server use as a boot drive where you don't want to waste space for an actual harddrive just to boot the os off of.
I have the same eee pc and I love it.I LOVE the small form factor and how jank it is. It just sucks that they're limited to 32 bit cpus so even linux can't save them.
13:47 dankpods impression is spot on
I PLAYED THE BABYZ GAME WHEN I STAYED AT MY GRANDMAS, IT WAS 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Bringus, YOU NEED TO DO A COLAB WITH DANKSPODS!
That eeePC bring me some memories, played a lot of grand chase and gba on that stuff (is the best you could do on that)
Your quite excellent Dank Pods impression should have already started with the Eee-Pc, though
Still using my Eee pc with an ssd in it for running can-bus software. Very useful every time the car needs some digital psychotherapy.
I know the Dankpod jokes are fun and all, but I really do love ur content for what it is. It's fun and awesome so keep it up friend.
12:00 the palm pilots were sick as hell
Gotta love the medic reveal
I knew it, i knew it ever since i saw the thumbnail and yt shoving it down my throat. I knew thst it was going to be a dankpods impression. Sick vid
sata doms are used usually for servers
i have another digital signage machine with a crazy in depth BIOS menu (overclockable and stuff) and a VIA Centaur CPU and stuff, it's super nice