God Doesn't Send You to Hell, You CHOOSE to Go There | Rick - OR | Atheist Experience 24.04
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"Knock", "Knock"
"Who's there?"
"It's Jesus"
"What do you want Jesus?"
"I'm here to save you"
"Save me from what?"
"From what I'm going to do to you if you don't let me in".
Lol
Sinful man & God are not compatible just like your human hand isn't compatible with fire becuase the nature of the fire is to burn. Hebrews 12:29 says "For our God is a consuming fire". If you were to show up in his presence you would be consumed. God loved us so much that he sent his only Son Jesus Christ to die a horrible death we deserved so that if we believe & trust in Jesus, God would consider our trust in Jesus as righteousness & he would forgive our sins & grant us eternal life as a free gift. You live your whole life denying God, you refuse to accept Jesus as your personal Lord & savior which He said is the only way to heaven then at the end of your life you demand to live at his house(Heaven). Ask God to reveal himself to you, seek Him & you will surely find & know him. I hope someday you all know the truth.
@@GeForceArena He loves us so much that he created childhood cancer, poverty, hunger AND a gave us a a world that we are so ill equipped to live on that we habituate around 10% of it!
Lucky Us!
@@cadenbraeutigam1598 the world that we are on is not fit for purpose for us. We can only live on 10% of it (roughly speaking).
The earth was created before man, and before the sin, as per your religion. Water was as well, and there is no way that humans at the time of writing the bible to live in water.
How is it a result of what came after it?
@@cadenbraeutigam1598 How is cancer a product of our sinful nature? God is the only one with the power to create. So he had to create cancer.
god loves us so much, he created hell, just in case we don't love him back
Jup. Its frightening that for MANY, the only incentive they have to be moral is by having a perceived, supreme Lovecraftian threat programmed into their minds. Whereby without they would have no qualms about lying, cheating, stealing, killing, raping, etc.
Really makes humanity appear quite primitive. Despite all out fancy electronic gadgets n such..
@MosesBad yes I can say that I like to help others not to see them hurt like I once was I have never did it for god only because it's not in my nature to harm plus I don't want to go to jail doing bad things and get gangbanged in jail from dropping the soap
Lmafo ....I'm serious...
@Never-ending party God can simply decide that Mankind didn't sin.
@Rob Morcette Psychopaths created god.
People choose to reject God thats why they end up in hell with the devil and his demons, God will not force you to love him nor will he froce you into his kingdom, the soul is eternal people choose darkness..
The mob doesn’t break your legs you choose to break your legs by not paying your protection money.
"You willfully broke your own legs..."
The mob offered to try to stop you. For a small fee.
Rick is the perfect example of a non-thinker. Matt led him down the logic path by the nose and he completely missed it.
How do you know that haa
@@cmoneytheman 🙄😂🤣🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻did u even see the video my guy lol
@@cmoneytheman it’s clear he ain’t responding kid lmaoo u definitely don’t have listening skills 🤣😂🤦🏻
@@tylerdurden6917 find a dr u nut
@@ascendediam👈🏻 r3+@rd3d 🤣😂
"I would never hurt my wife, I love her".... "God loves you, but he will burn you eternally if you don't worship him".... he doesn't see the logical conflict here....
You put it PERFECTLY!!!
@@itsjavibeetle3358 Yeah, lots of people choose to be tortured for all eternity, and God is happy as a clam to watch it all happen.... not to mention all the children born with unfathomable pain and birth defects.... all part of his perfect plan right? And people who happen to be born into a culture that doesnt believe in your god, they are doomed to burn for all eternity, but they choose that by rejecting something they dont even know exists.....
@@itsjavibeetle3358 or you can free yourself from beliefs that have no evidence..... believe that being a good person is what matters, that loving others no matter what their beliefs is more powerful than 2,000 year old myths constructed to aggregate power and money.... oh well, I can hope!!!
Well if God created you for his worship and you do not do it that's where you go. Its just like if your an employee, if you cannot do the job you get fired.
@@itsjavibeetle3358 And Islam is correct. But we believe some Christians will go to heaven, God is the one that will judge between us how we differed. But anyone that has another God besides the one God will be humiliated on judgment day and it is the worst of all sins so very likely to go to hell.
So if a slave can choose between obeying and getting beaten to death, that means he's free
I laughed way too hard
Very well-said!!!!
Not just beaten to death
Much worse
Its " Burn to death, but without the luxury of actually dying, forever "
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Because someone invisible " loves you" and you didn't love him back
Apparently, Divine love feels less like a warm hug and more like a pool of molten lava🔥
Correct. Also when murdered comes after you are free to die
@I wanna die Excellent.
If every one in heaven is like Rick ,I'd rather be else where
Purgatory has a special place just for you.
@@joemariejames4757 a special place? ooh lucky bruce.
@@joemariejames4757prove it liar, bearing false witness
@@themanwithnoname1839 how old are you anyway?
"Heaven for climate. Hell for company". - Mark Twain
Matt analogy with the wive was spot on and shows perfectly that these people don't even listen, let alone be capable of reason.
This show gives Christians an opportunity to make themselves look sooo bad. The people that call in are some of the most slimey, disingenuous people I've ever heard. They never call up with real questions, they call up to say what they want, and ignore the host when they actually say something intelligent.
@@pwabd2784 There is this regular caller named Otangelo (from Brazil) who will make you want to pull your hair out. He calls in with the most obnoxious and disingenuous arguments you will ever hear.
It wasn't spot on. To restate his analogy: "If you speak too loudly, I'm going to hit you (she then speaks loudly and you hit her), is that her fault?"
Yes it would be the wife's fault (though not sole fault) she was hit because she knew the consequences ahead of time. Whether she wants to be hit or deserves it is irrelevant - she chose an action she knew would result in her being hit. She's then responsible for the outcome. His analogy has an emotional aspect to it that instinctively engenders support for the wife but his logic is flawed and can be seen through a comparable analogy that strips out the empathy for the protagonist. You tell a person that if he commits murder he will go to prison. He commits a murder and ends up in prison - is that his fault? Yes - it's the state that's responsible for sending him away, but he is also responsible by virtue of his actions. He may not want to go to jail and in this case deserves it, but it's also his fault, much like it's the wife's fault.
@@dmc6262 his point is that wife didn't have a right to vote for this rule and this rule is highly likely to be broken, people didn't have right to vote that if person believes in what christianity declares he'd go to heaven and if not, to hell, and god didn't give us any really good evidence, so it's highly likely that there would be an enormous number of people who don't believe or believe in something else, then it's not personal choice, it's more like a cruel trap
@@rinat1985 His point is invalid. And it doesn't matter if the wife has a vote or say in the matter. All that matters is a) whether she knows & understands the consequences and b) knowingly follows actions that lead to those consequences. She would be at fault in a cause and effect way, not necessarily in a moral sense (depends on context). Matt's error is assuming the guilt or fault lies solely with the party making the rules. It doesn't. However, in his analogy, one side has knowledge of the outcome (a determinant of fault), the other doesn't. That's where you are partially right and were he should have gone with it. We ourselves are not at fault if we end up in hell, simply because the rules for salvation haven't been demonstrated to be true (we therefore lack knowledge), and not because the rules have been imposed on us, like you and him suggest.
Matt makes a lot of reasoning errors in this video - which is rare. For example he attempts to invalidate Jesus's crucifixion as being a sacrifice because it only lasted a day and a half and because he would return to being God anyway - labelling it a "bad weekend". Further comparing it to starting with $100m, setting it aside for a couple of days yet returning to your $100m in a couple of days. A) While there are degrees of sacrifices, a sacrifice having been made is not contingent on it's duration nor the level of the reward. B) Setting aside $100m for a couple days - you are losing potential investment returns, incurring opportunity cost and generally the ability to spend (potentially catastrophic if that $100m constitutes all you have). He should have argued the degree of sacrifice rather than it's existence.
It's sad, because his argument is identical to an abuse tactic
It is an abuse tactic, abuse tactics existed prior to the bigger religions and were inducted Into their grooming tactics because it fucking works.
The chatholic church got rich and it definitively weren't because God has a penchant to make it rain money.
It's also identical to "step on a crack, break your mother's back". It's funny, if you think about it, that that's actually a form of Pascal's wager, which just goes to show how silly Pascal's wager really is.
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Indeed.
Dammit woman, why do you make me hit you! I hope Rick watches this video and then reads the comments below. It's gonna hurt, but it might just do some good.
Yeah, I’ve heard God compared to an abusive spouse before.
Religion. The biggest hustle played on humankind ever.
Larry Borsa nah that’ll be slavery
@@ischar23 slavery is not a Hustle what are you talkin about slavery is subjugation of one person for free labor for another. A Hustle as I understand it is trickery or con games if you're saying slavery is wrong I agree with you if you're saying slavery is worse than religion I might even agree with that I think you're the only human on the planet to ever call slavery a Hustle
Larry Borsa Jesus Christ is going to pour out his cup of torments on you
The lottery comes in at a very close 2nd.
@@hisbloodsaves3621 Then he's nothing more than a fucking thug.
It's simply amazing to see people being led down a path, agreeing with everything along the way, agreeing with the conclusion, and then turning around saying the exact opposite in a different context.
It’s like the “that’s not my wallet” scene from SpongeBob 💀
You can’t expect these people who live their lives in an illogical fantasy, to submit to logic. It’s just not going to happen.
This show gives me so much courage when I stand up to my extremely homophobic Catholic father. He told me “you’re going to hell if you keep winning.” Then I said “well your god is kind of an asshole if he ‘created’ me to sin and predestined me to hell.” Thank you Matt and the AE crew for giving me the strength to defend myself.
Rick obviously failed to obey the "no phone calls after drinking" rule.
I piss blood.
How do you know that
Lots fake staged callers n it's clear
This guy is in so deep, he can't even conceive of a reality where he's wrong.
The Stig Matt is in the exact same position
@@philippe9078 Wrong. Matt can easily conceive of a reality where Christianity is true, he does it all the time. Just because he doesn't believe it doesn't mean he can't imagine it. This guy can't even imagine being wrong.
@@philippe9078 Matt is on the farthest point from that exact position on this planet, I fear.
This is the kind of guy who needs either a vasectomy or a two-by-four to the head.
In that case good for matt
This guy sounds like Buffalo Bill from “Silence of the Lambs”
Yea he kinda does
I just died laughing at this comment
Put the fuckin lotion in the baya-skit!!
It gives his heart to Jesus or it gets the hell
Haha & probably more scary .
The fact that anyone actually married this guy is beyond me
Well if she didn't he would torture her forever
Wait until his wife calls too...
Maybe she's a religious fruitloop like him.
Some women are sado masochists.
Rick: "I'm going to call the atheist experience right after I finish this case of beer"
Nazz1964 morty: oh jeez this would be so dangerous
This comment made me chuckle.
That ant be beer, some synthetic shit lmao alcohol dokt do that
I was thinking that very thing when I came across your comment.
Let’s smoke this blunt first
Its not a CHOICE if the options are X or Eternal Torture
Its called extortion
EXACTLY
@Love and Faithfulness Eternal torture/believe isn’t a choice
@@swamp1634 Matthew 7:13-14
“Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few.
Make the right choice, you have enough evidence. Choose God! you see God has all the answers, we just need to read the Bible, Pray and ask the holy spirit to lead us. And please don't ignore God, the only one who truly loves you and cares for you and knew you before he formed you in your mother’s womb.
1 Corinthians 1:27 Instead, God chose things the world considers foolish in order to shame those who think they are wise. And he chose things that are powerless to shame those who are powerful.
Duress*
Threat of violence, imprisonment, or being bound.
@@loveandfaithfulness4479 god is still blackmailing us to feed his ego. Just because he is god that makes it okay. If you lived in a malevolent dictatorship you'd be kissing the supreme leaders feet with this logic.
“You sound like an abused spouse”
Wow.
Wait... He knows how an abused spouse sound??? Someone call the FBI
Matt: How do you know the Loch Ness monster is real'' Rick: Because Bigfoot told me''
I can't go to hell , the devil has a restraining order on me ...
Satan knows I'll install A/C
@@josueolivas6109 It's a joke .There is no
hell, nor devil ...
@@yabutmaybenot.6433 Hell on earth ?
you ate the skin off the Kentucky fried chicken, didn't you
@@sad_doggo2504 Yep ...
This is abusive spouse logic. I love glad Matt called it out.
Hence forth to be known as Glad-Matt.
I just love the way Matt picks apart the so-called "sacrifice" of Jesus. Christians always talk about how God gave up his only begotten son (with so much emphasis on the word "only"), and Matt just describes it for what it really is. He gave up a weekend and then became co-equal with God.
By the standards of Spanish inquisition this whole story with torture and crusifiction would've been considered pretty moderate even without the whole resurrection part!
According to the Holy Trinity, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are a single entity. God sacrificed himself, to himself, so that mankind could be saved from himself. LOL What is wrong with people's brains?
Nobody chooses to be tortured that's ridiculous.
I just love how one can go to hell for all eternity for an infraction that wouldn’t amount to a parking ticket in this life.
Choose to not believe in this guy's interpretation of reality, and his god comes down on you like a ton of bricks. But hey, he's all love.
Actually, it would be because you're the descendant of the organism that did the infraction that didn't amount to a parking ticket.
Man's imagination knows no boundaries.
When you'd rather bash a cop's car than pay the parking ticket, you're starting to dig a big hole. Sin usually starts small, but then blows up big. When you are caught in a spiral of continuing to commit greater and greater sins in order to escape the consequences, you create hell for yourself.
@@theboombody Speak for yourself.
I don’t kill my children to show them my love.
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Well, that's just because you're a bad parent
Never-ending party and unlike god, even when they don’t do the right thing, I don’t kill them, take them out and stone them. Neither do I expect to be worshipped or even loved for all eternity. My children are actually allowed to be flawed and loved in their perfect imperfections. I don’t have to scare them, threaten them, shame them. God should really take a parenting class, not to mention a class in design and biology.
They believe it's a "mercy kill" to save from s greater suffering, hell.
Do they'd call it an act of love.
But then morality is supposedly objective so God is morally evil.
And that's only if he were real and he'll was a thing.
There's no way to spin it to not make it a contradictory mess
Trisha Yamada And I would add an ‘anger management’ course to those classes!
You have to love Matt! A man of incredible logic and common sense. He is so far ahead of most. 👍
Ha ha ha ROTFL
How do you know that
I loved that wife analogy. If a husband does not want to hit his wife, why would he make rules where the consequences of breaking those rules is that the wife gets hit?
This call is very annoying but it's a perfect example of the tangles religion gets people into.
This is the Denise call all over again.
Never-ending party Congratulations Doc, you still know how to copy paste spam in multiple threads! 👍🏻
@Never-ending party your a low information hanging fruit on a tree
@Never-ending party yes, you are the atheist assassin that pokes yourself in the ass for every dumbfuck comment you post.
Yes, an invisible sky fairy makes so much more sense! It sounds like you fell face down in that mud puddle.
"You choose to go to hell." is nothing but victim blaming.
@MosesBad Just think of how absurd that excuse would sound in a courtroom...
You actually do choose to go to hell
@MosesBad God doesn't threaten people
@MosesBad when God says if you commit sin you will go to hell. It's not a threat. Just like if I'm to say if you shoot yourself you will die, it's not a threat
@MosesBad when someone decides to kill someone it's a choice. When someone decides to smoke weed it's a choice
This guy's a great example of what Matt said once. (Paraphrased)
"Why is God never smarter than the people that advocate for him?"
Everybody seems to know how he would act in every situation, based on what they imagine. And no one ever thinks he would act in any other way. Riiggghht.
"You're talking like an abused spouse". Exactly. I was an abused spouse and I can remember saying, "but I believe he really loves me". This was because of a low self esteem because of religion that led to accepting this excuse.
I like the battered spouse comparison...
Stockholm syndrome.
Mike K me too
Too bad Rick can't understand how that applies to his claim. He is unable to shake the rhetoric he's been told or think about things critically.
"I didn't kill him, it was the bullet! I pointed the gun and fired it, but the bullet could have chosen too miss him! It didn't, so the bullet killed him, not me!"
@John Griffith but there is clearly something in the holes, air, air kills people! That's not inaccurate ammarite :D
Bullets have free will too
@@_Somsnosa_At least they surely won't go to Hell for eternity because they aren't living creatures and they don't have souls
God so loves humanity that he designed a Hell from his own mind to place 80% of humanity (past, current, future) into this Hell for eternity, when he certainly doesn't have too, because he just love's us ALL so very much!
Thank you for this show...it has changed my life and I am so grateful.
7:25 "god loves you so much he gave his only begotten son" -- as my daughter said when she was 14: "he's god, he can just make himself another son"
Sounds like a happy grandma ;-) Sorry, no offense, but you gave such a steep template ...
Terrence Bullock Think of running the World, while shaving (Meet Joe Black aka Death Takes A Holiday). Elsewhere, think of the invention of the Trinity (ousia is homousius).
not avaliable Yes. In Christianity, Adam was made of the dust of the ground, while the alleged Son of God is homousius - the substance/ousia of god. This raises theological questioning. If Jesus was truly Man, he was not homousian. If Jesus was not homousian, then he was not the divine Son of God on Earth. If Jesus was homousian, then he was not truly Man. The waters of substitutionary ransom are thus muddied.
"god loves you so much he gave his only begotten son"
A so called "son of god" who, according to the bible, was merely inconvenienced for about 3 days (given that a god cannot die otherwise it's not a god.) Then the story says he flew up in space... without any spacecraft or spacesuit. I guess Jesus likes to "chill out" in deep space at minus 273 Celsius. Apparently he can also hold his breath forever... without dying... again.
Wait... if God and Jesus are the same person... and Mary is Jesus's mother...
Doesn't that technically mean that God conceived a child with his _own mother?_
"Definitely not my decision it's God's on whether or not I'm going to hell?"
"You got that right."
"So why would you say it's my choice?"
"Because you are making the choice."
I can see the next 13 minutes are going to be an exercise in futility.
The calls on the show are partly for the benefit of listeners that are religious but do think about the validity of their belief.
@Technic i chose to vandalize the school, but she chose to send me to detention. also detention is temporary, not eternal pain and suffering so i don't see how you're analogy is relevant to the god argument.
@Technic yeah i'm glad its all hypothetical and none of its real, because that sounds like a very poor existence/existential dilemma to be forced into against your will.
God: I love you all so much!
God: Also, I've made the *default* state of your afterlife a burning inferno of fire and torture. But don't worry! If you *beg* me to save you, I'll carry you somewhere nice and fluffy instead.
Humanity: 😱😬🥰😅
God is evil
@@mistylover7398 God isn't evil. You lack wisdom and don't have the same knowledge God has. I hope God changes your heart so that you may seek him
@@voldibayizitunda2178 I'm better than your god. Your god is immoral.
@@mikeymyers9617 Firstly it's God not god, Secondly he's a perfect entity while you're a sinner, thirdly you wish you better than him and lastly if you took the time to know how deadly sin can be and why we need Jesus, you wouldn't have asked these questions
@@voldibayizitunda2178 Sin doesn't exist, just like your 'god'. Your imaginary god allows slavery, genocide, oppression and the suffering of millions, i wouldn't allow any of that therefor i'm better than your 'god'.
Jesus is a fictional character in a book, why would anyone need that?
"Worship me or you will burn in imaginary hell forever" LOL Your imaginary god is a narcissistic evil scumbag.
Rick was not, in any way, equipped for this conversation.
None of them are
Cognitive dissonance in full glory!
Shouldn't talk about the hosts like that, lol.
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@@dsjimmy1 Aw, come on, that was funny!
@@heru-deshet359 The host were being real I thing the caller was trolling
@Jason Aldrich Could care less what you think.
This is so painful to listen to. This guy is so religiously brainwashed, he has no grasp on reality anymore.
Chris Great Comment. This guy's IQ has to be 70 or less.
@Never-ending party It takes intelligence to understand Evolution. You're excused! (Where did you God come from??)
Chris2008 he can’t even find the handle of reality let alone hold on to it.
@Never-ending party Exactly. We all came from a mud puddle. Just because you don't understand the complex mechanism to get from a "mud puddle" to a living organism, doesn't mean that we all came from an even more mysterious sky fairy.
Complexity, morality and intelligence (which a lot of people are missing) are the result of a very long evolutionary process and not of a finger snip of an invisible god.
Oh... and by the way: Which one of the thousands of manmade gods are you referring to?
I copied your comment to a persistent clipboard, because it saves me time when I want to post that as a comment on ANY Atheist Experience video.
The way he said "I wouldn't hurt her" sounded like he was being accused and was guilty 😂.
the concept of hell still messes me up to this day and these videos really help me overcome it. Thank you so much for doing what you do
This poor chap speaks like he has never been out of his home town. Sad.
He speaks like he's never been out of his fucking bedroom!
Actually I thought maybe he was drunk. Like to me it sounded like slurring his words. Do you think that might have been it, or was it just a really weird accent? I'm just curious cause if it was an accent ive never heard one quite like that before
Lmao!
No. He sounds like he's never been laid!!!
S He has a wife. He’s smashed at some point.
"God is in control"
"It's your choice, though"
“He has a plan for you”
“He also gives you free will”
@@anthonylong9067 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 LONG I TELL YA NONSENSICALITY OF RELIGION
David Tucker god killed more than satan.
Hail satan
David Tucker remind me who flooded the planet, destroyed numerous cities, ordered genocide, endorsed slavery, permits killing LGBT people, punishes rape victims by forcing em to marry their rapist, and enforces all of these terrible things in the new testament. Oh wait. That’s god’s undoing.
Answer me this: if god is all powerful, why didnt he just destroy satan outright? Yet he sends people to hell so they get tortured if they dont like him. Sounds like god and satan work together. That’s pretty contradictory of what god wants
David Tucker god sent his son to destroy both? Yeah that didnt work out. Lol
And you hate your life? That’s sad. I do love my life, my family and friends, my dog, soccer, video games, pizza. There’s a lot of things I love. But i dont need a god to justify what and who I love. I’ve been an atheist since 2011 and it has helped me come to terms with things that made no sense to me while i was religious. Why would i waste the one life i know im gonna have just hating everything because a god wants you to? If you dont value your life, then you need to rethink your priorities.
“Men love sin” What does that make women? Women sin too. Nobody’s perfect. But the difference is how we accept our flaws and our decisions if they were to be bad ones.
Takes a special kind of talent to walk right into the point and still miss it completely.
I’d even go further and say atheists aren’t rejecting GOD or Jesus, they’re rejecting PEOPLE making the claims about god or Jesus
This guy did not convince me God loves me
You don`t say ? ....................
Most selled book in history states that a man can't convince another man from their sins, but only the Holy spirit.
@Judas Iscariot I've never read Don Quixote, but If you google, "most selled book in history" then you will see a book called "The Holy Bible". In addition, it is Jonh 16:7-9, and John 14:26. For instance, whenever it states about, "The Comforter" by some 'reason' we believe in faith it talks about the Holy spirit. Take a close look!
@Judas Iscariot I mean, Don Quixote has over 500 million copies while The Holy Bible has over 5 billion copies, including all the revisions you mentioned.
@Judas Iscariot if you google, "bible copies sold" then you will see what's been recorded throughout time.
It must be painful to go through life with this limitation of brain power....
Or maybe extremely easy
Probably more blissful than painful.... sigh... 🤦🏻♂️
Nope. It's only painful to those of us that can see just how stupid this guy really is. He's completely unaware of how dumb he is, so he feels no pain over it at all. He's oblivious to his own stupidity.
Ignorance is bliss. Rick is filled with bliss.
♫ Rose tint my world, keep me safe from my trouble and pain! ♫
God is a lover of trouble. He punishes the blameless and prospers the wicked: Job and David come to mind.
Caller: You have to accept Jesus Christ as your lord and savior
Matt: I did that when I was a little kid.
LMFAO 😄🤣😂
Atheists generally try not to call Christians stupid.
Every call I listen to makes it harder and harder.
Can a person who thinks this way hold a job? Drive?
Kenneth Leak they can be stupid on this subject, and smarter in another. I still question how they make big decisions in life....
Lol made me laugh
Everyone is "stupid" on at least one subject. In the case of religious people, they have suspended reason in favor of indoctrination.
FACE GALLON those guys are just wasting their time if they come here to troll.
Never-ending party please go read a book other than a religious text.
The Atheist Experience should have a "Where Are They Now?" episode so we can see how some of the callers have learned from their experience with calling into the show.
I actually really like this concept. I wanna know how those two kids who called in for extra credit are doing today. Definitely one of my favorite episodes and overall segments from this show
@@thatonemusicnb link or video title please?
It would be a very short program, why? It takes a lot of time and work to change a core belief system, epseially ones engrained since early childhood. Most christians don't have a desire to question their faith. Think about it. Most people are exposed to relgious doctrine (dogma) before they could speak. They hear it from their parents (a child's first God) and at church services. What choice does a child have except to accept it as truth? Put simply, you'll never hear a christian say: "I coud be wrong in my belief system on religion" or "come to think of it, maybe there is no God." Put another way, if you're a devout christian, you don't dare question your faith or risk burning in hell, right? Religion is nothing more than an effective philosphy or means to control what people believe and how they should live in a particular society. Religion also satisfies the human need to socialize or to belong to a tribe of like-minded people. Finally, religon failed to answer questions on the origins of mankind and the universe with nothing more than mystical nonsense.
On occasion they’ll get a repeat caller who hasnt learned at all
Haku infinite Many people have given up believing in god because of this show.
An eternity of hell is an unjust punishment for any crime. Not even the most deplorable human being deserves such a fate.
"Hell is not a place you go if you're not a Christian. It's the failure of your life's greatest ambition" - Immortal Technique.
Keep following your dreams and don't doubt yourself. You got this!
God has hold of my arm... me: “Stop hitting me God!” God: “You’re hitting yourself!”
LMFAO!
Fucking Underrated Comment XD
But if u believed in Jesus he would of let you go and the been one hitting himself
@@1007usmc *Jesus punching himself to a bloody pulp*
Me: why are you doing that
Bloody, toothless Jesus: YOU'RE doing this
@@shinobi-no-bueno 😆😆😆
Its so incredibly sad hearing these folks chase their tails...
Stop putting me out of stamina.
By chasing even taller tales
are you kidding?? this is the best entertainment on you tube...its so fun listening to the christians little brains baking as matt schools them...total hilarity to hear grown people try to pretend santa clause exists because an ancient book written by who knows who in a time before science says so...and its not gonna stop any time soon so lets enjoy this incredible entertainment!!!
Psalm 34:8
Taste and see that the LORD is good; blessed is the one who takes refuge in him.
This must be Denise from Portland’s husband, who made the same argument with Jeff Dee on the show...
I loved it when Jeff went over the top on this subject.
And I loved the tone in Denise's voice when confronted with the f-word.
@@peteralleyman1945 EXUUUUUUUUUUUUSE ME?!?!?!
Ah, my favourite 'blame the victim' argument.
Edit: I just realised that it's the spaghetti monster at the front
8:18 - "... that's not a sacrifice, that's a bad weekend". Priceless.
comedy gold
"God doesn't send you to Hell, you choose to go there" is one Hell of a stupid statement. I have no choice in my non-belief.
Seriously? “We send ourselves to hell”? Your imaginary friend supposedly knew us “before we were born” remember? ALL the hateful/harmful crap humans do to each other is his damn fault! He supposedly knows our actions before we do, and yet, has chosen to ignore everything humans have done throughout recorded history, especially the stuff done “in his name”.
That “You send yourself to hell” is bullshit, pure and simple. Religious excuses to try to justify the crap in the Bible by blaming us through original sin for your God’s mistakes.
Jeffrey Dahmer kidnapped, sexually assaulted 17 men, then tortured and killed them, some of them he even nibbled on. Your imaginary friend supposedly KNEW what Dahmer was going to do, and he let it happen.
That goes for every other serial killer, serial rapist, mass shooter, genocide, war throughout history.
But I’m supposedly going to suffer for eternity because I disagree with the assertion God exists?
F that.
yep, why god even made hell if god loves us
@Never-ending party yea, an all-knowing judge, what god gonna judge if god already know everything
@Never-ending party if he is thd JUDGE, he decides, not me.
Checkmate, idiot.
Never-ending party
So according to your God's judgment just not worshipping him is enough to warrant an eternity of torture. Do you see the problem people might have with this?
The idea that a loving God could not forgive his creation and decided to kill his son just don't sit right with me
I love watching these older episodes. The hosts change, but the callers remain the same.
"LOVE ME BACK OR I WILL BURN AND TORTURE YOU FOREVER" - The all-loving God
"How do you prove the Jesus story is real?"
"By the spirit."
Holy shit is this dude for real. Does he really think that's a valid argument. I don't think I need to watch the rest of the video after that comment 😂
I think about the battered spouse syndrome everytime someone says you send yourself to hell.... Like that battered spouse gave themselves the black eye when they burned dinner... Smh
"You cannot reason someone out of something that they were not reasoned into" Johnathan Swift and possibly others
I really like the "hit your wife analogy." If you admit that you wouldn't hit your wife and admit that it's not her fault, then the question is WHY IS IT EVEN A RULE IN THE FIRST PLACE?
because in that analogy he is the abused not the abuser.
Many abused show traits of not blameing the abuser but the abused (i.e. themelf).
This is what we see here - he in order to not mentally subcome he uses the "the victim (me) deserved it in order not to give up on his love of god.
@@alberich3099 still doesn't justify the morality of someone sending you some where based on extortion threats.
@@militeghebre5386 Never said it did now, did I?
I mearly explained on why I think the "hitting your wive" analogy fits vey well.
Understanding something is not the same as excuseing it, or thinking it is "right".
@@alberich3099 oh my bad man I read your comment wrong
@@militeghebre5386 nervermind, happy we could clear that missunderstandment.
have a good one
Take my case; I'm 40 years old, been an Atheist my entire life. I've never committed any crimes, I've proudly served my country in the Army for 15 years, I volunteer, I donate to charity regularly, I contribute positively to society and help the less fortunate and I not only treat all human being equally, regardless of religion, gender, gender identity, skin color, sexual orientation or disability but I also go out of my way to fight for peoples rights. I've even fought for the rights of theists. Tell me, do I deserve to go to Hell because I'm not convinced a God exists? If your answer is "yes" than you are confused and frightened. If your God exists and it's answer is "yes" than your God is pure evil. When you say things like "Why don't you accept Jesus into your heart?" all I have to say is "Why haven't you accepted the Prophet Mohammed...or Brahman and Vishnu...or Buddha...or Satan...or Odin....or Ra...or Zeus..."
As the likes of Ray Cumfart would say: "Have you ever merely looked at a woman with lust? Then you are an adulterer by heart and a convicted sinner. Repent or burn."
You will always lose to the maniacal oppression by fear driven theists. But He loves you. Total Stockholm syndrom carnage..
@@isuckharderthanlife5413 Because they advocate for thought policing. Notice no one ever did anything physical, they're just threatening hell for having a thought. That's a part of their control. Because no one can control their own thoughts and feelings. You have them and either act or dont act. But if you can make people fear what will happen to them for something they have no control over.. boom! you got them
@@labella9291
Children. These people are trained to attack the weakest and most innocent malleable minds they can wrap their tentacles around.
I can't help but notice that the very vocal theists in this comments section are conspicuously absent here!
You have proven to me that your sense of morality is far more superior compared to a so-called God's asserted sense of morality, in which apparently none of the demonstrable good that you do matters, and for that matter none of the cruelty that people do, matter either -- apparently all that matters if if you accept God as the one god, and love him unconditionally -- especially when, if you don't accept him, he will put you in hell.
Theists cannot prove the superiority of god's morality. Nor do they often try. They simply assert, and they are stuck on that. That's sadly what God is about: truly blind acceptance without question. Including blindly accept that you must blindly accept without question.
But I do question. By my free will, I must question. And my first question to that is why should we blindly accept.
My 13 year old daughter just sat and watched this with me. She thought Rick probably needs some kind of help. Needless to say, she won't be going to church any time soon.🤣🤣
It's amazing how saying "how do you know that" is already more than enough to destroy arguments
Matt: "so Rick, is it my choice or god's choice?"
Rick: "hurr durr"
God gives everyone the option to know him personally..if you don't know it or not your being influenced either by Satan or by God in the choices you make everyday ..your heart and soul is your but Satan knows how to influence your direction..there fore you have to make a choice on which way you will go ..
The person who "chooses" the negative option in an ultimatum is not at fault - it's on the person who set up and enforces such a one-sided and disproportionate system. Even if they "chose" what the enforcer sees as the positive choice, they're still being victimised: they contort themselves to meet the arbitrary standards; they're in constant fear of being discovered; they're gonna be abused anyway, because the enforcer sees abuse as acceptable conduct.
Snake Man448 - Of all the choices we would be allowed if we were allowed as much of free will as can be -- it is hardly so when someone has the power to limit you to basically only two - just two - in which both options are far from acceptable.
Here's what it boils down to, there are billions of dollars to be made in the religion/Supernatural business, also New Age mysticism. It always comes down to money! You're either in on the con ( and in it to make a lot of money) or, you are being conned.🤐
Masterful presentation by Matt. One of the best.
God CHOOSES to be EVIL if you don't BELIEVE he exists.
Brilliant!
He's righteous when he forgives incorrigible paedophile Catholic priests.
@@oliverlaw02
Oh but don'tcha know they're just filled with the holy spirit. All they Want to do is pass along the holy spirit to the under age quire boys. Don'tcha know the holy spirit is passed through bodily fluids, lol.
You should have stopped at evil.
@@guytheincognito4186 ewww.
God makes you an offer you can't refuse.
Rick is filled with holy spirit. Lots of it.
I love the holy spirit
Matt nunca te mueras, clónate, bebe la poción de la eterna juventud jajaja, necesitamos miles de personas como tu.
You have freedom to choose but you'd better make the right choice.
-God
Inner Fire Why does a supreme being require worship in the first place? Choice is not free with no verifiable evidence.
there are no quotes from God bro.... Just words from the inbred sheep farmers that wrote the bible....
God doesn't threat people. If you go to hell it's because you wanted to
@@mikeytruthz3133 that's the dumbest thing I ever heard
@@tommacbrien8955 What else can be expected from an indoctrinated individual whose critical-thinking capacity has been impaired beyond repair?
This show needs a laugh track.
They listened to your suggestion and added it. Watch their newer episodes.
they used to have a real crowd in the background and they would laugh when they found something funny so it sounded natural it was awesome
That’s not a sacrifice, that’s a bad weekend 😭😭😂
I believe this is called argument from, “why are you hitting yourself? stop hitting yourself!”
"it's a bad weekend"
LMFAO
I actually feel for this guy
He seems a decent guy and probably would have been a rational man if not for the brainwashing he suffered since his childhood
I don't. With how he's talking, it's the kind of rationalization of an abuser makes for the shit they do. Most people that abuse others, typically are religious people. This caller's basically an animal on remarkably loose leash.
@@romankvapil9184 IF IM HAVING TROUBLE GETTING AWAY FROM BULLSHIT SHOULD I GET THERAPY THINK I NEED IT
@@romankvapil9184 He is also a victim
Same here... also so painful too watch how hes making total idiot of himself... Sad really what brainwashing g does to people.
I bet he dont use same logic in other aspects of his life...
@@romankvapil9184 disagree, while yes abusers use same logic, Christian's in general, use this logic to justify god but dismiss it it EVERY aspect of their life.
Non believers also have part of them being abusers.
Perhaps is just the fact that if you are abuser and happened to believe is easier to justify it using same logic you already use elsewhere, and christianity fits it perfectly?
Matts patience amazes me. How he tolerates people that have no comprehension of logical thought, or rational argument astounds me. This call should’ve been over 5 minutes in 🤷♂️
God knew he would send me to hell
before he created me.
In fact he created a special place in hell
just for me.
God is great.
@God of the Eternal light. its not “free will” if there is only one option and the other “option” earns you an eternity of torture
Its Extortion
@@Phoenix-King-ozai Exactly. If god knows everything you're going to do before you do it, then free will can't really exist. Why create me if you already know the future and with it my fate? It doesn't make sense.
@@fadedparadise1615 indeed
He knows the future and he also created you flawed
It is literally stated that all of mankind is sinful
And no, the typical excuse that you need to be flawed to have free will is garbage
Yahweh allegedly has both freewill , complete knowledge and is flawless
Yahweh wouldn't be tempted by all the serpents in the world
So that means Man was Flawed even before they "fell"
Which means he literally set you up for failure by giving "Sinful" impulses, no concrete knowledge and different life circumstances to different people and devised an extremely cruel and unending punishment for his own sadistic enjoyment
pray and repent.
Lol
Good analogy with the husband and wife
The scariest punishment would include being forced to worship an imaginary sky daddy for all eternity.
@@yabutmaybenot.6433 You share much wisdom with me.
Digital Rain bruh 😂
@Never-ending party Seems the only ones lost and clueless are those who follow a disproven book and an imaginary sky daddy.
Never-ending party
"True Christians"TM can't agree on what the requirements to go to heaven are, what hell is, or which Biblical stories are literal and which are not. Not to mention the myriad of questions to which their only answer will only ever be, "I don't know; God has his mysterious ways."
Repent or you too will likewise perish. Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Light. No one comes to the Father but through the Son.
My best answer to 'jesus loves you' was 'well i don't love him back'. The schock on her face,...pure gold
God loves you even if you choose hell.
There is no hell, and if there were, it’d be filled with people like this caller.
"it puts the lotion in the basket or else it gets the hose again..."
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I WAS TALKING TO MY FRIEND ABOUT THIS A FEW WEEKS AGO. I cannot explain to you how happy it makes me that i’m not the only one who thinks this.
Why do I keep watching these. It physically makes me depressed and gives me a Headache.
Look at it a different way. If these calls didn't make your head hurt reality would, like Rick.
Knock knock.
Who's there?
It is God, let me in.
What do you want?
I want to save you.
Save me from what?
From what I will do to you if you don't let me in.
Heaven - full of people who did what they wanted in life - no matter how bad (insert catholic priest joke) but believed . Hell full of people who just didn’t believe - could have been bad but could have the scientists that came up with medical treatments that saved millions- great system there
Very often people think preaching is debating and preach when they cannot debate, good work Matt.
I worship at your feet Mat. Keep up the wonderful work. ❤️
I have been warmed by the spirit. That spirit is a fine, aged whisky.
I`d prefer a Good Cognac ( Larsen ) ...................
@Les Brown Yes, why not beer, I`m too lazy for a joint ..................
More real than any religious experience.
Personally I enjoy a blended whiskey.
I will concede whiskey exists.