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“Is it ok to beat your slaves?” “I guess that would depend on how they behave.” Religion’s effect on the mind.
The call should have ended right there.
Anyone who believes in slavery and that slaves should be beaten depending on their behavior, is a repugnant peace of shit.
What a scumbag of a human.
KingJustice98 no
KingJustice98 perhaps I can expand. Atheism is merely the lack of a belief in god. Not morality. It has never been demonstrated, to my satisfaction, that god is required for morality to exist. God isn’t even required for slavery to be considered moral, but it certainly seems to be the best way to make the argument. Slavery is moral because god says so? I’m not convinced your god is real and am, therefore, not convinced slavery is moral. In fact, I find it to be immoral, so I’m inclined to believe your god is not moral.
@@MrHueJazz1 Dear Tom, YES ! ...........
"The more devout they are, the more they see murder as negotiable"
~George Carlin
The Humanist position: if you dont honor human rights, we will bomb you
That's a good quotation...
@@a.brekkan4965 I'm beginning to suspect you are a troll, as that is a straightup strawman.
@@rockysandman5489 Strawman?
The best-selling Yuval Harari writes about this in Sapiens.
@@rockysandman5489 When us presidents try to justify bombing of Libya etc they say thing like «Ghadaffi didnt respect democracy and human rights» which is their gospel that they want to spread to the world
When Matt said "from Alabama" I had expectations. I wasn't disappointed.
The belt in the Bible Belt needs to be tightened to the point that everyone there is squeezed and pops out like millions of whiteheads.
I am happy for you, it is nice when our expectations are fulfilled 😊
yup sheltered live in a place with 2 digit population numbers with one church like the one on little house on the pr-airy
@@rudycorona3938 2 digit population would still be like 8 churches silly
I always hear the dueling banjos in my head when someone says Alabama.
Bro really started his argument basically saying "let's pretend I'm right" 💀
exactly
It's the Ben Shapiro school of argumentation. That is to say, it's only used by those who are dumb, dishonest, or both.
Wow. Someone ACTUALLY said they were OK with slavery. That is incredible.
You're new here, aren't you? 😂
One fine day in Paradise, Clay Man's wife, Rib Woman was tricked by a talking snake into eating the fruit from a magical tree. Because of this, God had to create a mini-me 1/3 scale replica of himself to live a perfect life only to be sacrificed in some grisly spectacle of blood magic, to himself, to act as a loophole for the rules that he made.
The whole fuckin' todo is incredible. An endless parade of incoherent ramblings packaged like Aesop's Fairy Tales....these imbeciles believe it....and there are no obstacles to them breeding, indoctrinating the next generation of buffoons, buying weapons or voting. *NOTHING!* That's the terrifying part about living "next door" (Soviet Canuckistan)
It is weird to me that Christians try to wiggle out of slavery being ok with the Bible. It spends numerous and numerous verses discussing slavery and never one time said “don’t do this”
One HAS to conclude, that at a minimum God had no opinion on slavery being right or wrong and just provided some guidelines for it. Or at worst, is perfectly fine with it
technically... well.. what if you have a slave but you treat the person well and the person want to continue working that way, what are the chances of it, i dunno, but from that pov it might not be wrong, beating ofc is
Justifying slavery with the bible or "GOD" Is immoral.
_"There's nothing inherently wrong with slavery"_ - What?!
_"Is it okay to beat your slave? - Depends on how they behave"_ - WHAT?!
_"The more they're beaten the more they're blessed"_ - *WHAAAAAAAAAT?!?*
@@kentonbaird1723 Well, as long as he doesnt die in one or two days.
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I got it... things a slavemaster would say.
@@thepaperstaggering worst he his a slave(submission to his lord) wannabee master.
@@thepaperstaggering great comment
it's amazing how readily biblical theists will just out themselves as being horrible people if you ask the right questions
trying to score points in the eyes of the supreme being watching them every single moment of their life....
You don't think it's okay to beat your slaves? I beat my slaves every day of the week and twice on Sunday (because it's the Sabbath, and the bible says I'm not supposed to work on the Sabbath). So every Sunday, I go to church and worship Gawd, then I go home and beat my slaves. Twice. It makes them more obedient. Do you have a problem with that?
Their morality is infantile alot of the time because they take it from the Bible directly and don’t spend time critically thinking on it
I’v e realised I was an atheist since the age of 14, and I’ve seen nothing in the intervening 45 years to dissuade me of that. However, I was brought up Anglican by believing parents, and I remember our local vicar, Ben Aylott, would often visit. I remember my dad touching theodicy (the problem of evil), and the incompatibility of condemning children in countries who had never heard of Christianity to Hell with a loving god. I will never forget Ben’s response: “To hear you talk, you’d think that love was everything.” My dad recoiled. “Have you even read the New Testament, Ben?”
@@jonstone9741 Just for fun, I order my slaves to work on the Sabbath on pain of a beating, and then I beat them for obeying that order. The second beating is for disobeying the Bible. Keep your slaves ignorant, afraid and confused and they’ll hang on your every order.
"In the Bible, slaves- the more they're beaten, the more they are blessed"
When I heard that statement, I literally had a migraine.
It’s so sad seeing somebody surrender their own mind and heart to such a reprehensible idea, all because of fear of the unknown.
I think he said "obedient," but still.
It may seem that Atheists take their moral from the New Testament, and they use this to criticise The Old.
this is the same argument that is known among Jehova, the more your dad punishes you the more he loves you. probably also in Christianity.
@@Bomsanchu Well, the Christian approach to the pain of living has proven to be very successful.
But I guess modern, secular people wouldn't know what existential pain means.
I have faith that Matt Dillahunty is only 26 years old. He just lost his hair by pulling it out debating these callers.
That'd do it lol
and went grey.
And don't forget to "ignore" all evidence to the contrary. :)
@Unprepared ToDie Too much salt is bad for your diet.
@Unprepared ToDie OP didn't mention salt, I did.
And I was referring to *your* salty comment.
Try to keep up.
"To argue with someone who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" Thomas Paine
@@odessaxmusicclips6028 No, he wasn't.
@@odessaxmusicclips6028 You obviously have never read The Age of Reason
Exactly right 👍
This might be my new favorite quote lmao
Dillahunty definitely believes in religious bs: the idea of human dignity inherent in every human being. The man reeks of Christianity!
George Carlin: If death leads to everlasting paradise, then why are you wearing a seat belt?"
@@TheEternalOuroboros why? Apparently it's the best party up there and its leaps and bounds better than here according to the holy books.
@Jack W that's a good one 😂
@@TheEternalOuroboros still doesn't make sense. You get eternal happiness and literally anything you want. Why would one not want that?
@@SRVarma1993 You'd temporarily leave your friends and family behind. They would suffer without you, so would your friends. It's not a no-brainer. It is a fairly difficult decision if you have things in this world that you enjoy.
@@TheEternalOuroboros King James Bible Matthew 10:37
"He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me."
No heaven for you I guess. Sucks, you missed out on a 24/7/365 session of sky fairy worshipping. Enjoy your eternal hellfire. If only you didn't perform the dreaded sin of putting your family and friends before your sky fairy.
I love when theists show the damage religion has done to them. With Zach it was more obvious than most when he said he can't see anything wrong with slavery. That alone is going to have me take a hard pass on his immoral religion. Thanks Zach! You are a perfect example of the harm inherent in your religion. Dunce.
damage?? damage???? to them??? OMG. there is NO place in this country a bigot woman hating racist wont be welcome.. and its called family events, and church. damge to them?? wat damage? they are fine. more accepted then we are. and they will DO BETTER the more the push racism and bigoty.. damaged my ass. these are the most privileged people in the world. Our betters in 1000 ways. damaged:\ america HEROS. damaged:\ u think anyone them will pay for wat they do?? maybe we just use words differnt, but id never call my BETTERs damaged. im damaged. they are the best people in the world and will tell u so.
It’s so sad to see people end up like him.
@@kristie988 lol imagine being so stupid that you insult Matt while confirming what he said about slavery. Well done little buddy
@@kristie988 lol okay big guy. educate us. why is slavrey in the bible?
other than the obvious. to subjugate another individual and make their entire existence solely about making their masters life easier and more fruitful.
the fact you can read the buy-bull and still remain a christian shows you have an inflexible and small mind.
@@kristie988 This type of Christian talk is foul false cherry picking attitude witch will be shunned.
"I don't see how this is relevant." = "I don't want to answer that question because it would be devastating to my position."
"Overruled."
"GOOD CALL!"
Either that or they just so much special pleading in their way to the argument, that they can't identify obvious similarities between their position and a logically similar statement.
@Me Smith Wtf did I just read?
@Me Smith
Edwards an complete moron.."before we exchange information like adress and phone nr, provide an legal agreement everything you say really is true."..
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Sometimes i wish my system two thinking weren't so honed as to trabscribe Stupid..it's Painfull seeing just how bad their thinking really is.
@Me Smith
Indeed. The more pathetic thing though is that these particular people aren't trying to defend God, nor could they. They're trying to defend their sense of purpose and meaning being a gods creation affords them. It's really Sad.
Zachary's next call needs to be to an attorney, so he can sue the Alabama school system that allowed him to end up this way.
At 14:30 he boldly states that IF he has faith that he can jump from one cliff to another and make it then god exists... As dumb as that assertion is does it mean that if he actually DIDN'T make it to the other cliff and instead plummeted to his death he'd have become an atheist on the way down?
Tom,i had to give you a thumbs up for your comment. well said sir!
He can only blame the schools until he’s done with them. Once he’s finished with school, he’s supposed to take responsibility for his life.
He should sue his parents 1st. They had him well indoctrination before school. I would be surprised if he attended public school.
Yes I grew here in CT but lived in Alabama for seven years . It made me an atheist. I am back here in CT among thinking people now.
"Mistreatment of slaves..."
Owning slaves is already mistreating them.
Exactly. I agree. Owning someone is immoral even if you treat them well. The ownership is the problem.
We are all slaves
@@Jamie-Russell-CME slavery was justified in America by using the bible.
@@Jamie-Russell-CME Thank you for the insightful post. Atheists have been beating us up for a long time in the Media condemning the Bible as pro slavery when in fact slavery was common back then in the times of the Patriarchs on. The work of living being so much more of a burden than now with running water, gas furnaces, mass produced clothing, automobiles, established economies and so on. So the strong commonly took the weaker captive. From what I have gathered reading the sacred Word God made slavery more workable. He gave it order. Its great to see someone answer darkness with light! "The Light shines in darkness and the darkness understands it not." Keep up the good work! Many of the online atheists preachers and teachers are Romans 1:21/28, so there's not much we can do for them. But here in the comments are diehards and doubters, so we can hope to sow good seed like you just die. The LORD Bless you and keep you safe. Amen.
Wow. This guy. And states that in the Christian view, it's okay to own slaves.... and yet probably thinks that Christianity is somehow morally superior. And these Theists don't get how others can be Atheists?????
I love how he dodged the question of "Will you be our slave since you don't see any issue with it?" Only applying the whole "slavery isn't bad" thing to everyone but himself
The most incredible part of this call is he started with an assertion atheists evaluation is flawed because of a presupposition religion is false. Then spent the entire time insisting faith was reliable because of the presupposition that christianity says it is.
It’s as if someone took narcissistic personality disorder and made it into a religion.
If religious apologists couldn’t lie about atheists, they’d have almost nothing left to say.😂
No, the most incredible part of the call was Zach thinking it was acceptable to own people.
Because it's a default position where they think that they have the moral high ground and I have to prove that their position is wrong, not that god exists. When we don't and ask them for proof, it all falls down.
@@danhemming6624 praise be to hod (which I assume is a trendy new term for hotdog 😋)
Zachary:"The more you suffer the more you're blessed" that's pure evil man.😞
He must be a big fan of mother Theresa…
That's exactly what slave owners said.
Not only is it evil, but why the hell would you *want* to worship a god like that??? I just... smdh
It's like something from Hellraiser.. 😳
I don't really think it's something Zachary would intentionally throw himself into. It's just that those who stand in defense of the book have this happen to them, and according to the figure in the book, he basically said, "People will slander your name and say and do all manner of awful things towards you because of me".
Hey, if it were any other faith, whatever. But for some reason, some, people's blood gets boiled about this.
I love it when people start out with the no true Scotsman fallacy and then go downhill from there.
Yes it is entertaining though watching their argument go down the toilet into the cesspool of failed arguments.
I would have hung up on him right after that. Fuck him.
@@pollypockets508 the scope opened was beautiful. Practically ex nhilo..x
Or even predestined. I don't know.
I’m Black, an atheist, and I live in the south. Few racist things, and few racists, manage to surprise me at this point… the casual way he answered about slavery-I was taken aback. He didn’t even pause. 21:02
In all fairness, I don't know if he was referring to slavery based on race. People of all colours and ethnicities have been enslaved in some point in history, so 🤷
And he did say he doesn't hate people of other races. Maybe he thought he could be a good slave.
Hey I'm a African American atheist too! ⚛️
It's scarcely a surprise that the South STILL stands by a desire to allow slavery as an institution, and racist Southerners still have a deep seated belief that black people are inferiors that need to be controlled by the "guiding hand" of white people like Robert E. Lee believed. The dominant religion of the South (Christianity) tells them that it's okay, and they try to use that to justify it. It's why your hear southern Christian Republicans try SO HARD to claim that biblical slavery wasn't slavery as the US knew it, because then they can bring it back just by claiming they're practicing the "kinder, gentler" slavery of the Bible.
I've actually heard these arguments with my own ears. It's fucking disgusting.
@@adrianmargean3402 He’s from Alabama, so I doubt that.
@@HailSatanOurLordAndSavior Lol. Hello, fam. Welcome. ❤❤❤
“Science adjusts its view based on what’s observed. Faith is the denial of observation so that belief can be preserved.” - Tim Minchin
"Storm"...nice. Probably my favourite poem.
truth dog There are many uses for the word faith. For its use in the religious context, that is a very accurate representation of its meaning.
@truth dog Deny, deny, deny
Far better to have questions that don't have answers, rather than answer's that cannot be questioned.
@@celeritasc9207 Like, " I have faith that Jesus won't make the world suffer the covid19", but yet we are suffering through the covid19. Faith is hope, and you can't really get around it.
"It's hard to demonstrate something to someone who doesn't already agree." Poor Zachary. He can't deal with reality because he has been brainwashed.
But Zachary allows himself to be brainwashed. So he's at fault too. Instead of admitting that he's wrong, he hung up. This shows that he didn't think that he's wrong
I have a reasonable belief that Zachary will never be able to shake off his childhood religious indoctrination.
Yes, but your belief is based on (presented) evidence, not faith, so it has the possibility of being more reliable than a coin toss. That is unfortunate for Zachary and others like him who present similar evidence of their shackles.
I believe that Zachary was born into a Muslim family, then converted to Hinduism, then finally saw that Christianity was pure truth.
@@altosack
lol.
I'm afraid you missed my sarcasm, which is understandable as millions believe religious bunk.
Emphasis on Childhood. All religions require years and years of study to indoctrinate them. Religious texts are so ambiguous that they require years and years to both indoctrinate and install its insidiousness over your own personality/self. When you go automatically into defence mode for your religion/faith/belief then you know that indoctrination has taken hold.
Not true I DID!!! There’s hope
"Faith is a reliable path to truth"
"Could you demonstrate that faith is a more reliable path to truth than a coin toss?"
"... how can I prove that?"
*Literal facepalm*
Exactly! I facepalmed so hard at this part. lol.
Matt's slavery question gets them every time. I am always surprised at just how many of the callers stand by slavery. You would have thought that the caller would have at least attempted to dodge the question but he didn't. It just shows how perverse some people's theology is.
Thay are probably Democrats
@@richardhall6034 That really doesn't play when anyone can just read the news, but good try.
@@richardhall6034 Conservatives have always been the worst of humanity. They're the ones who owned slaves. They're the ones who seceded and killed Americans rather than give up their slaves. They're the ones who fought for segregation. They fought against voting rights for women and non-whites.
Conservatives are still fighting for a host of terrible things today. In 100 years, decent human beings will have beaten your sorry asses down yet again and future conservatives will look at your current views as backwards and terrible. "Conservative" is a container word for "the worst beliefs humans can currently get away with."
Your beliefs don't map to reality. Stop listening to whatever far-right misinformation sources have rotted your mind. Be better.
@u little shit I'm clearly not, since I was explicitly critiquing conservatives, not a political party. That said, Republicans are a party of far-right extremists. If you find a single non-conservative Republican, that person will be so extremely confused about reality that their party was essentially picked at random.
A Christian who expresses the sentiments in question is OVERWHELMINGLY likely to be Republican. I don't think it can reasonably argued that they're not conservative. Defending horrific archaic institutions because of a horrific archaic belief system is as conservative as it gets.
Their "they are probably Democrats" statement either places them in that group of incredibly confused individuals, in which case my comment could have helped them recognize that failing, or it makes them yet another lying conservative acting in bad faith and dishonestly blaming conservative failings on their enemies.
They realize that saying slavery is wrong would be in opposition to their god . Their indoctrination cannot permit this .
Alabama Guy - "there's nothing inherently wrong with slavery..."
*not surprised at all*
What is the evidence for the highly speculative, metaphysical idea that "All men are created equal"?
@@a.brekkan4965 it's not, we all are different. Society bring justice by equal rights.
@@jean3xweb I know, but what is this based on: hard evidence or sentimental stories?
@@a.brekkan4965 what that we're are all differents or that injustices is not a good way to live together? If you don't know that you need to think about it i think. Hard evidence(i dont know what is it i just know about what i evidence and what is a proof or valid argument than anyone can see it, test it and validate it) can be found easily i bet. Through genetic for example or through history for the 2nd statement.
Or do you assume that slavery is a good thing and owning and using others for his benefit is?
@@jean3xweb 10 points for rhetoric and drama. 0 for reason and science.
He starts off with "Let's imagine..." - how about lets not and deal with REALITY?
For real though 😂😂
They think philosophy is evidence... And their philosophy is childlike
I saw a clip some time back of a comedian doing stand up and his opening line was “There are those that believe in God and the rest of us are realistic” 🤣
So according to this dude, there's a god that created humans with the ability to believe things based on logic but the only thing we can't believe based on logic is the existence of this god. Right
Those last few minutes were an absolute trainwreck.
Suggesting Matt is rude while you condone slavery and the beating of slaves.
Makes total sense, right?
Apparently it does make sense within the framework of christianity.. lol
@@BILL_BO_jangles Apparently it is morally acceptable too! Please tell me they don't teach this toxic crud to little children. No wonder this victim can't think on his own. They find it physically difficult even to listen to someone. Like they have been programmed to tune out what they don't believe.
Maybe they can tolerate slavery because they are themselves slaves to the big guy in the sky, or at least to his earthly minions who have their best interest in mind. cough#@* cough*&$
And the caller felt justified.
“Making sense” is not a consideration with religion.😂
Its amazing how many people are categorically immoral and such pieces of shit but will act offended when you react to their behavior.
This Guy wanted to defend slavery. Christopher Hitchens said it best, “We keep on being told that religion, whatever its imperfections, at least instills morality. On every side, there is conclusive evidence that the contrary is the case and that faith causes people to be more mean, more selfish, and perhaps above all, more stupid.”
Mind conditioning is strong with this one. People use faith and trust interchangeably not realizing they are not the same.
@@ohiostate4515 Can you demonstrate that Hitchens had to violate his worldview? Your rebuttal doesn't fit, it's like a non sequitur.
I just imagined reading your words in his voice, it was nostalgic. Hail atheism, booo Christianity and other Abrahamic abominations
@@ohiostate4515 Let me give you two hints:
a.) Atheists are not all moral relativists
b.) Morality does not come from authority. Abraham was told by god to kill his own son, yet he felt it was wrong.
@@ohiostate4515 """" In atheism""""" Well, 2 words in and you already proved you don't know what you are talking about. There is no such thing as in atheism. You thinking atheism is some set of beliefs or something, is your main problem. Atheism is one simple thing, not accepting a specific claim, the claim that a god or gods exist. That is all. Anything more than that, is something else.
"""moral standards are relative"""" Morals are objective, regardless of if there is a sky daddy telling you what is moral, still objective to the imaginary sky daddy. Good fail on that right off the bat too.
""""By relative I mean dependent on the individual""" Yeah, you mean objective. Still objective if an invisible sky daddy is setting them.
"""" he has to appeal to a subjective standard of morality""""" So do theists, you guys just deny it.
""""If his authority for making these moral judgments is subjective in nature...then they carry no weight.""""" Exactly the same amount of subjective, as your imaginary sky daddy, and on top of that, until you can prove an imaginary sky daddy actually exists, your claims are based on literally nothing, at least I can prove Hitchens actually existed.
""""If his authority are absolute in nature then he is claiming to be the ultimate moral authority""""" Nobody except crazy theists claim absolute authority, which you cannot demonstrate, because you cannot demonstrate nor prove your invisible sky dictator is actually real.
Wow, you couldn't be more wrong if you tried. It's almost like you have been brainwashed your entire life to believe something that is not evidently true. What a shame.
The mental block necessary for these callers to continue to ‘not get it’ is amazing. Matt is a very patient person for trying to teach logic.
When the caller said that logic doesn’t bring you to God--I said “damn right!”
Religion and politics are based upon tribal instincts. These instincts are real which is why religious people are so confident that they have THE TRUTH. Their justifications they use for their beliefs are not based upon logic or reason or what is demonstratable as true. When they say god is love, they are referring to the bond they have to their tribal group.
@@bobs182 lets say we accept that, then there is no reason to call it god, and neither to follow and accept religious dogmas and sick rules
@@AntitheistHuman Right, there is no reason to believe if you are being logical and truthful but there is a reason to believe if you are following your subjective tribal instincts. Evolution has selected for pragmatic survival traits perhaps especially for our social traits more so than for knowing what is true.
@@bobs182 that's a whole bunch of pseudoscience, respectfully. "Tribal instincts" are not a thing. The sociological or evolutionary explanation for religion is still up for debate. There's a bunch of theories, none of them really works as of now, but "tribal instincts" is not one of them.
@@riccardozanoni2531 There is no question about the fact that humans are universally highly tribalistic. Loneliness, groupism, group identities, language capabilities, love, et cetera are all innate propensities that facilitates cooperation.
Calling in to tell the hosts that their presuppositions prevent them from accepting evidence... gets immediate trapped by his own presuppositions.
Matt defeated himself at 4:45 and 6:50 though.
MoonCrow How so?
@@MC473428 He starts the whole argument with the claim that it doesn't matter if he's an atheist or a Christian, because he assessed the evidence the same way, regardless. Then he says "I don't care what Christianity says" contradicting the entire first part of the video. I don't know if that means he wasn't a "real Christian" or not, but he's certainly not assessing evidence AS a Christian and apparently never was.
I can move on to 6:50 if you like.
MoonCrow No. that’s a strawman. Matt clearly states that he assessed evidence based on logical reasoning, which is independent of bias. The caller attempts to bypass logic in order to advance a faith based position. It’s at that point that Matt steps in and tells him that it doesn’t matter what Christianity says because it doesn’t. You can assess evidence logically and consistently irregardless of bias. He in under no obligation to assess the evidence as a Christian because any faith based assessment presupposes a God, which bypasses logic. If an anti-theist called into a Christian show and claimed that there was no God and that he believes so based on faith, that there would be no challenge? A Christian host could put all biases aside and pick apart the anti-theistic argument based on logic because a logical argument that is not fallacious and consultant is a more reliable pathway to truth that any faith based position. I’m not even going to touch the “not a true Christian” point because that’s such an obvious No True Scotsman fallacy that it doesn’t really warrant a response.
@@MC473428 ""'independent of bias"""
You can't scream "I don't care what Christianity says" and say you're not biased. The whole point of the call was that atheists and Christians would assess evidence differently. Matt has rejected huge amounts of evidence that Christians would accept, so he's not and really never was assessing evidence as a Christian. I don't have a problem with that, just be honest about it. It's like he's arguing to argue at the start.
""logical reasoning""
He actually doesn't use logical reasoning, he just calls it that. Different point though.
""" You can assess evidence logically and consistently irregardless of bias. """
You can yes, but Matt is not. I would say that Christians make the same mistake. This issue is that Matt still wants his cake even through he's already eaten it.
"""He in under no obligation to assess the evidence as a Christian because any faith based assessment presupposes a God"""
EXACTLY!
So why paint himself into that corner?
""No True Scotsman fallacy""
It's not a fallacy if it's true. Sorry.
Not everyone is from Scotland.
“Yeah but slaves were treated nicely back then” i was actually told this as a child 🙂
Jesus loves slavery
The instructions about slavery in Exodus are disgusting. But even Mark Twain, a decent liberal, held that in Jefferson's and Washington's time slaves *_were_* treated better than at the time of the Confederacy.
@IVAN KRAWEC Respect, no, but there is one passage these people can point to that says to set free a slave if you pop out his eye or teeth.
Which are things people avoided in America. Hence the whipping on the back instead of beating the face.
@@dandynoble2875 Always seemed to be loopholes available, yeah.
We can see how nicely slaves were treated by the fact that a rule exists explaining what to do if you put someone's eye out, or if they are severely injured from a beating. Way to go. Who fills these young people's minds with this shit? They have all the cliches and excuses off pat. None of them have ever had an original or rebellious thought in their lives.
The exhausted Christian excuse is "They weren't really a Christian"
Ah yeah, the no true scotsman fallacy
If Jesus of Galilee ever existed, I don't believe he was a Christian.
@@BluePhoenix_ The original proposition is that a true Scotsman in a kilt wears nothing under it. For the highland regiments, it is held to be mandatory.
Scotland should receive a donation every time this fallacy is used. They would be quite a wealthy nation
Most Christians are not Christians but are Paulists. They do not follow the teachings of Christ they follow those of Paul. What Paul preached was not what Jesus preached. Jesus said he did not come to change one letter of the law. Paul said you do not have to follow the law of Moses just do what I tell you. Paul never met Jesus but saw a chance to hijack the Christian movement.
"Faith is not a pathway to the truth" a sentence I have used since I first heard it from Matt.
Me too.
Matt 22.45
Faith is not a pathway to truth
If you see a fork in the road between Faith and Truth, your eyes deceive you, and the Devil is waiting down the path MARKED “FAITH.”
It’s unbelievable how these callers have so much confidence in their stupidity.
It's cause they don't actually know they're stupid.
This atheist can't refute my rebuttal of his lies on the generation passing or Jesus saying he'd return before disciples died. Lol. Cricket's.
@@Charles-tv6oi What are you claiming?
@@jakes658 the kingdom came in power n glory at pentecost. We're now in a great falling away similar to before Christs 1 rest coming
@@Charles-tv6oi That's a weird claim to make. Why should anyone believe that?
The whole concept of having a slave IS a mistreatment of a slave.
Yep, there is no nice way to do it, if you were kind, you would hire the worker
You know that darwinian evolution theary is based on recism and that White poeple are better than Black poeple right ??
@@chonejaki6059 And how does that matter? Evolution theory has grown away from that. Religion is still steeped in stone age mysticism.
@@sad-pt7xd So it is okay for me to take you away from your family and make you work for me, if I pay you? hmmmmmmmm
Aqua Peet I could’ve phrased that better
Faith is the easiest way to escape reality.😭
This is actually the only real true value of Christianity, or i would argue all religion, and many extremist communities. It can teach people how to compartmentalize which can be a useful tool to deal with your religious trauma later down the line
I prefer beer.
@@ginasalinas2731 The only real true value of Christianity is that we get to be with the one real true God.
@@Biggles2666 The correct phrase is "I *like* beer." Forever enshrined by Brett Kavanaugh, our newest Supreme Court justice. After the fall of the American Empire, a historical autopsy will determine that our goose was officially cooked when a petulant alcoholic rapist was confirmed by the Senate and became the deciding vote that overturned Roe v. Wade.
@@jeziscricket4448 When I read stuff like this, I have to wonder if you're being sarcastic. It would help if you put a forward slash "s" (/s) -- or a happy face emoji with its tongue sticking out -- after your comment.
When a Theist becomes an Atheist, people ask, why did you lose your faith? When an Atheist becomes a Theist, I ask, why did you lose your reason?
For both questions of atheism and theism I ask, “why are you so arrogant to think you are right?” What I believe is that a sincere exploration leads each person to the truth for them specifically and that neither can be proven by demonstration, Creator vs. random event for the Big Bang. Both creator and random event are faith in a world view. Each has a burden of proof.
Why not just trust a person on their sincere reasons for belief and learn from them to defend your position better then, if things change, it was your own journey that gave you your understanding of truth, and actually respect others’ evidence, give the benefit of the doubt, let them give their true view and try to understand it. Then give yours. Why can’t we do that instead of making it a puzzle to own the other person?
@@louispasquarello6099 Take your straw man word salad and shove it from where you excreted it.
I love watching Matt force christard brains to make the grinding gears noise
Sadly these people only have jelly in their head.
This kid Zachary went to the no-go Zone with Matt!
@@themplar I don't believe that. Brainwashing is a serious and real technique. I was a Zachary when I was younger and I'm sure Matt was too. It was only through getting my butt kicked with sound logic that I forced myself out of the brainwash. We might be looking at a future atheist experience host here and we wouldn't be able to tell
For every horrible act a person has committed, there's a bystander who thought about that act and convinced themselves it was alright or even justified.
This is what the Bible does - it radicalizes you into justifying wrath. I was there during my churchgoing days, convinced that the oppression and murder stories were somehow this right thing. Fuck that fucking book.
I live for that. 😂
A guy from Alabama doesnt see a problem with slavery, looks like the South still sucks.
Believes in the bible, doesn't know the text in it. Average christian.
The lovely, oversensitive algorithm decided that my first comment was unacceptable, because Heaven(tm) forbid anyone's poow widdle feewings ever be huwt, especially if they're dead pieces of shit like Ayn Rand I guess.
I was gonna say that I was sure the idiot caller had a problem with slavery unless he was some kind of brain-dead libertarian with no understanding of the veil of ignorance.... but it turns out he's a brain-dead libertarian with no understanding of the veil of ignorance. The South shall rise again, thank you Viagra I guess.
Am southern. Can confirm.
Marcus Freebody as an atheist you have nothing to ground your morality therefore to say that slavery is “right” or “wrong” is a matter of opinion, but not objectively morally wrong.
@@iwads1 And if atheism pretended to be anything other than the lack of a belief in god, or if it were some kind of religion, you'd be making a valuable point instead of an utterly asinine one.
Just because we're atheists doesn't mean we have no morality at all, you dumbfuck. Most of us are also humanists. I know the idea of people simultaneously being two things that you don't understand overtaxes your crippled brain, but that's a YOU problem, not an everybody else problem.
Congratulations on doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to condemn slavery, by the way. You basically said it was alright to own people are property and beat them half to death "because you other guys have no justification to say it's wrong". YES WE DO AND YOU FUCKING DON'T. So kindly kiss our collective asses, you piece of scum.
Caller’s dedication to ignorance is impressive. These people have lost the ability to hear.
This caller is wonderful illustration of what I call the difference between willful ignorance and motivated stupidity; this caller is motivated to maintain/further/underscore his stupidity
They hear, they just don think.
This caller just confirmed why I have no problem with sleeping in each and every Sunday.
"There's nothing inherently wrong with slavery."
Wow. Didn't see that coming.
*looks down and sees caller is from alabama* im shocked. Shocked! Well, not that shocked.
To be fair, that statement is technically true. The lack of an absolute moral system means that such acts are neither inherently moral or immoral.
There actually isn't anything "inherently" wrong with slavery, or murder, or any other crime. Moral quality is something we as humans imbue on to actions, not something that they already have.
@Enjoy and Travel The World! Wrong. The general consensus about slavery being wrong is not because we "know" it's wrong. That implies some intrinsic morality outside the realm of opinion. The reason why people believe it's wrong generally come from a feeling of empathy stemming from an aversion to becoming enslaved oneself. Much like the general consensus on topics like murder and theft, this opinion is part of a system of mutualism.
@Enjoy and Travel The World! Ah, then I apologize then. I prefer to avoid using the word 'know' when it comes to morality.
When the caller said he sees nothing wrong with slavery, I was in such awe with my mouth and eyes so wide open.
You're new around here huh? This is something you're gonna see again and again...I have yet to hear a total denouncement when it comes to having this question put to Christians....
@@LucianCorrvinus Actually I am a regular viewer here for like over a couple odd years, but I've yet to hear a caller actually say this thing so straightforward. It was never this straight and to the point, always dodges and dancing around it. But this guy, damn.
@A z Now that you mention it, I very faintly remember that conversation. Just barely. But I didn't quite think it was this straightforward with that guy as it is with this one here.
Jesus said: “do unto others as you would have them do unto you” and “Love your neighbour as yourself”
How is this supporting slavery?
@@harrysquitters8275 Read Leviticus 25 and Exodus 21. Before you even go to "that was the Old Testament", that shitstain of an excuse won't work because there's a Jesus quote somewhere in the New Testament that goes "Think not that I have come to abolish the Law and the prophets. I have not come to abolish the Old Law but to fulfill it, not a jot or tittle of the Law shall be removed before this has come to pass".
Also, there's a quote in one of the gospels (almost sure it was in Paul) which says "slaves, obey your earthly masters, even the cruel ones".
Face it, your book condones slavery and in Exodus and Leviticus lays out the specifics under which Hebrews can own, buy, sell, beat and even trick their slaves into being theirs forever. It's right there in the book.
I never get tired of listening to Matt. He never misses the underlying the point.
"I have faith you can jump more than four feet"
"I don't"
Priceless
it's so interesting and similarily frustrating seeing how religous people are fighting with themselves when confronted with logic. their brain is fighting against it because it hurts them to accept truth, because accepting it would mean that they lived a lie and when they are too deep in it they are unable to accept it and go in denial.
I feel zero sympathy for the dumb asses. Nothing. Fuck em.
That's called Cognitive Dissonance, and they all do it to one extent or another. Those who successfully break out of it, like Matt and countless others (of varying religions) become ex-theists.
I know the feeling; seeing Humanists defending the religious claim that there are Universal Human Rights is just painful
I've been saying that fact-based thinking is superior to faith-based thinking, but after listening to Matt, I'm going to change it to: logic-based thinking is superior to faith-based thinking. Also, I don't like it when people think with their feelings instead of their rational mind.
@@youcanlearnsomethingjustli38 But shouldn't we feel some sympathy for children who are indoctrinated into a religion? Children don't choose the parents they're born with, or the family they're born into.
This is what stupidity sounds like
Stupidity, and a healthy dose of crazy!
@@cavecookie1 Or rather, an _UNhealthy_ dose of crazy. ;-)
Nick Doyle Hes honesty one of the smarter religious people I’ve heard on here. He is completely wrong but compared some I’ve interacted with.
You hear it a lot on this show
If religions can’t appeal to faith they have nothing.
Which means they have nothing, because faith amounts to nothing, its basically a "I just believe because I want to believe and because it makes me feel good."
@J. Buxter-Fleener Instead of name calling like a child, why don't you go ahead and prove him wrong.
I love that you turned on him when he tried to justify slavery. FUCKING BOSS move. Also, I used to watch your show all the time, and it has been a while, but I gotta just shout out and say, I am so glad to see you're still doing this.
It’s like arguing with a rock.
At least a rock can be a useful tool.
This guy repeats everything they ask, as a question...MATT: “is faith like a coin toss?” GUY :Is faith like a coin toss? MATT: Yes sir. Is it as reliable as a coin toss?” GUY: “Is it as reliable as a coin toss?” MATT: Yes! If you were going to buy a car, and you tossed a coin to see if you should buy it, would that be reliable as a method to find out if it was a good car?” GUY: “Would that be a reliable method to find out if the car was good?” Yes, I believe that Matt either pulled out all his hair in frustration or banged his head against a wall in frustration & the hair just gave up & fell out! Jesus! Matt has the patience of Job! (using a little ditty from the Good Book....) I admire him for his calmness & his striving to get the person to understand something that they clearly cannot comprehend in the tiniest way!
Rocks don't answer back.
God is the existence of Love. We're all aware Love exists.
@@damianedwards2327 Could you refrase the first sentence?
I love how simple and direct questions are so hard for the theist callers. Their logic breaks down so easily when asked for something simple and gets them so frustrated that they go off on tangents and never directly answer the question(s).
They do that because they have never sat down and thought about any of it, they just repeat what someone else says.
@@Uldihaa They aren't even really _allowed_ to think about it, which is even more sad. If you believe you'll go to hell if you don't worship your depraved god, it's not surprising that they blindly follow - it's hard to shake that. I feel bad for them... up to a point. This caller? (ironically same name as me) I don't feel bad for him. The moment you can justify slavery to yourself is the moment you are lost, as far as I'm concerned.
Living a Biblical life today would result in one ending up either dead or in prison for life.
Exactly. been watching several Michael Franzese videos. i find it funny he condemns the mob life as "evil" because it destroys families even though Jesus explicitly says "the members of your own house will be your enemy" and "anyone who loves their family or their own lives is not worthy of me. He just traded Persico for Jesus.
@@kingrichardiii6280 If the Jesus that Jefferson admired actually existed, there are lines that T.J. said "stand out like diamonds in a dunghill"
Your Majesty, I hold that lines like the one you quote are part of the dunghill. Then again the Caesar's Jesus hypothesis attributes the good parts to the Jewish writer Philo of Alexandria.
lots of christians being persecuted around the world so quite true
@@kingrichardiii6280 you took it out of context where is the rest. I can make statements out of context also. It is very easy.
@@fighterpimp please explain how am I taking out of context? When if I recall the passage said that anyone who loves their family and their life is not worthy of jesus.
Hey Zachary, get out of the car and tell me if my blinkers are working
Zachary: "Yup, nope, yup, nope, yup, nope, yup, nope"
"Atheists Don't Evaluate Evidence for God Correctly"
Translation: if you don't end up at my predetermined preferred conclusion, you're doing it wrong.
Which is the exact opposite of science.
Exactly
@@joecoolioness6399 Is the belief in Universal Human Rights science?
@@a.brekkan4965 Science is a methodology, you should read up on that....
@@vertigo4236 And does this methodology verify that there are Universal Human Rights?
“Can I make a point?”
It sure doesn’t look like you can.😂
Matt: Hi Zachary, what you got for us today?
Zachary: You were no true Scotsman.
I'd be willing to bet that Zachary is part of the "facts don't care about your feelings" crowd
I’m sure Zachary’s youth pastor thinks he’s fucking brilliant.
Oh yeah, he is a Southern Baptist Atheist pastor.
Im also sure the same youth pastor will take him too a dark room in his church and show him how proud of Zack he really is.
I really hope Brilliant isn't a name of a sheep.
@@mavx4 Or a half sibling.
Especially when they were both naked and Zach was receiving the holy spirit.
Caller: "Faith is not a reliable pathway to truth, but in the case of Christianity, faith is a reliable pathway". This is amusing until this happens:
Matt: "Do you think slavery is Ok?"
Caller: "I don't think there is anything inherently wrong with slavery"
I can't believe there are such people 2020
The Bible does not condemn slavery, neither does Almighty God.
" 'Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them **you may buy slaves**. 45 You may **also buy some of the temporary residents** living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property.
46 You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly."
Leviticus 25:44-46 (ANIV)
Neither did the Lord Christ or his Apostles.
In fact St. Paul instructed Christian slaves to work even harder for their Christian slave masters.
Earnestly contending for the faith fuck off
@@earnestlycontendingforthef5332 You have listed the precise reason why the Bible is and cannot be the basis of our moral code, at least in the twenty first century. As you admitted: "The Bible does not condemn slavery, neither does Almighty God". The God of the Bible does not only not condemn but also condones slavery. Its not limited to slavery. It includes genocide, ethnic cleansing, racism, misogyny, and human sacrifice. The Bible is basically Barbaric and racist in its essence.
@@ramakrishnakamathsuresh1076
Christians now have the Laws of Christ to adhere to in this dispensation of God's Grace.
@@ramakrishnakamathsuresh1076
It's real quite simple....
“My thoughts are not your thoughts,
and my ways are not your ways,” declares the Lord.
9 “Just as the heavens are higher than the earth,
so my ways are higher than your ways,
and my thoughts are higher than your thoughts.”
Isaiah 55:8-9 (GW)
This is one of the most dishonest callers I’ve ever heard.
Right. A Christian.
This caller just seemed ignorant on the subject he was trying to demonstrate.
Matt Slick is pretty close to one of the most dishonest callers on the Atheist Experience and this guy was nowhere near that level.
I don't know if it's outright dishonesty, as much as it show just how indoctrinated people can become. And even worse, they don't value critical-thinking, reason & logic.
...and there are worse people out there than this idiot.
@@cade377 That is not limited to religion though. The worst tool for indoctrination is social media, since it allows the ignorant and uneducated to collectivize ideas we thought were relegated to the "thats a stupid thought" bin.
I love hearing the voices drop when their argument gets so totally smashed it can't recover
*Sees Matt flipping the bird in the thumbnail.*
"Oh, this'll be good."
Nobody breaks it down better than Matt, love this guy! Hope everyone at AXP is doing well.
If faith can lead you to god, than can more faith lead you to more gods?
Ooh, excellent point! Now I'm wondering if jumbo super duper sized-faith leads to Mount Olympus?
"What an absolutely telling question."
The restrained frustration and anger. I felt it Matt. I really did.
“Lets imagine...”
That a no for me dawg
Using imagination means a thing is IMAGINARY! Whoa!
Creationist: Look around you, the world, life, it's all so amazing, beautiful and complex.
Also Creationist: Yeah, this life is nothing, it's meaningless compared to the second life.
Consistent much?
Calls Matt, goes "atheists don't evaluate evidence correctly!" - Matt reminds him he reached the same conclusion while still being a christian - Pulls a "no true Scotsman" on Matt - Me thinks: Oh boy, this is gonna be good! :D
"Is a coin flip a reliable way to discern the truth?"
-Anton Chigurgh wants to know your location
Call it
Always great when a caller starts off with a No True Scotsman fallacy.
Matt is the master of trapping the caller with no way out!!!
Matt needs to stop the Exodus/slavery thing, and allowing the caller to say if they're cool with it, in the abstract. FORCE THE CALLER TO AFFIRM THEY ARE OK with being IN THE SLAVE ROLE (already, For Christ sake).
Likewise for Issac and Abraham ....don't allow the caller to identify with Abraham. Force them to assent to being in the Issac role...
Likewise for Jeptha, etc
Jeez... Matt, this isn't rocket science... WTF.
Its because Matt, as an atheist, doesn't have to do any work.
The null hypothesis allows for the lazy intellectual to philosophize all day without actually making a point.
The caller's argument seems to be, "If I'm right, you're wrong. You didn't think of that, did you, Mr Atheist?"
Good one.
"There's nothing inherently wrong with slavery" -Zachary. 😵💫
Matt: "Is it okay if I hate, kill and rape a bunch of people?"
Caller: "No one is perfect."
Me: 😳
Rédemption😂
He just said that owning slaves is okay as long as you treat them right? WTF? whats the definition of right? when it's your property. Slaves are like your TV or your phone ir car just treat it right and itll work. When it stops, throw it away and get another.
Its crazy to think that all you have to do is, Just repent and all's well, come on in paradise awaits.
I'm sure this statement is an Islamic one. All you have to do is conquor/declare war upon some family and I can make them my slaves. Just pick one with a lot of kids. Either kill the father or bring him low (imasculate) him into the submissive posture/behaviour.
Religion poisons everything.
lol
But it's all OK ...... if you are a Christian.
I love seeing theists tying them self’s in knots. It’s my favourite lockdown past time.
"if I rape and kill could God forgive me?" Caller "yeah no one is perfect" wow
Well, in all (Western) nations most murderers and rapists are set free after some time in prison. Which means that society somehow has forgiven them. Is this wrong? Ought we not to forgive them?
@@a.brekkan4965 Sorry, you lack basic understanding. A society doesn't "forgive" people who had their time in prison, forgiving is a personal matter. At no point there is a law that grants "forgiveness" to someone. Please get some education, you're showing to lack understanding in this matter.
@@vertigo4236 Of course there is an element of forgiveness when people are let out of prison. They have "paid their debt" and society is willing to let them have their lives back.
Quite sickening actually, it's not even asking forgiveness to the victims but asking from God and indirectly saying "fuck you" to the victim because god ultimately forgave you
@@a.brekkan4965 yeah no , most of the time it's money that let's them out or some sort of corruption takes place in the government......most are either executed or stay life in prison and even if they were to get out , the people of the outside world would go after that preparator
I really admire Matt's head-on collisions with theists. His ability to precisely enunciate leaves them no wiggle room. He is a magnificent debater!
Are you saying he is a master debater?
he sounds like he never finished high school
Trying to explain logic to Christians is like trying to teach a cat calculus
The cat might learn though
@@imjessietr29 oof
@Nature and Physics 😂
@Derek My cat learned how to piss in the toilet by watching me do it. Still trying to get him to learn how to flush, though.
@Derek yes, I think Christians unwittingly brain wash themselves to believe many counterproductive things, namely that they can't really be wrong
"you are excluding the possibility"
you have to show there is a possibility, not just assert blindly.
Fred: Hi Zac, my name is Fred
Zac: I thought your name was Bob
Fred: No, really, my name is Fred
Zac: It's possible you could be wrong, therefore your name must be Bob.
Pretty much sums up the entire conversation. Matt really does have a lot of patience.
Faith without evidence, is indistinguishable from stupidity...
Caller: “I have faith because the Bible said...”
Why do you have faith in a book written by unknown authors and assembled by unknown editor?
Not quite unknown. There was a council of bishops who agreed on the "canon" of the "New" Testament. Even when I was still a Christian, I thought the inclusion of the "Book of Revelation" showed remarkably bad judgement.
But one of the funniest books I've read includes two ancient acquaintances (6000 years) who have come to like Earth well enough they don't want Armageddon to happen. Crowley is one of them. He used to be Crawly, the Serpent.
@@albertrogers2506 wtf r u saying??
@@albertrogers2506 Are the two you're talking about the basis for the protagonists of the BBC TV series Good Omens?
@@kylechristensen3290 The book is called "Good Omens" and the first page or so mentions that Archbishop Ussher got the date of Creation wrong, by about 15 minutes. I have been tempted to adopt the name Aziraphale, the name the story gives to the Angel who had the Flaming Sword.
@@rockysandman5489 Yes!
*Matt Dillahunty is a brilliant man 👊🏿 I love how he breaks them down with pure logic and reason 😉*
He may be brilliant and still be Lost.Proof for God is easy.Genesis says in the beginning God said Let there be light and there was light.Proof!
@@pantsbeontheground1620 adorable. Ur a Poe
Prove God exists.
@@DeathStarU.S.A that's for you to do,nobody can do it for you or Matt.That is nobody's job but yours.If I can find proof which is 100% you can to!
Yes Matt is so smart that he is too smart to use the tools God gave him to find Him!
If you seek God and test Him he will show up.Nobody can bring God proof to you.Its like me doing a yoga class for you in your place.That won't work for me.
The mental gymnastics of the caller are just staggering.
He has earned a Pyrite medal
@@eleSDSU And you earn a gold sir 😂👍
“I don’t think there is anything intrinsically wrong with slavery” - Zach, a Christian
Hosts: *ask very simple question*
This goober: *repeats question incredulously*
America, please teach your kids to have conversations.
Perhaps teaching reality might be better then 2000 year old bullshit written by sheep and goat herders.
US of A is pretty far gone. It's a really stupid country now.
As a sidenote, "goober" is a hilariously accurate word to describe this sort of person. =D
Yea. That was bugging me. He gets asked a question, and either ask them to repeat the question, or pretends he doesn't understand the question.
I would stress to them, “HOW” to have conversations! This guy was incredibly pedantic! I was trying so hard to get him to answer one question without repeating it first...whew! My muscles are all aching from the effort!
Everytime one of these nuts saw "can I make a point"? I always hope Matt's response will be "I highly doubt it"
I do not doubt there may be a point, but it is likely the point will not be piercing.
Me too!
Let me make a point: the idea of human dignity is supernatural.
I was thinking “you can try”
" Lets imagine", yes that is PRECISELY what religiolus DO ! ...............
This dude called to talk about the pitfalls of presupposition from atheists while simultaneously having a presupposition that Christianity is true from the start. Awesome.
Ahhhhhhh Dilahunty is so awesome, he has a way of drilling right down to the core of the opposition's arguments, he listens really well.
Imagine saying slavery is okay and then telling someone them reacting by cussing is rude.
Don't forget, the good book is on his side !
Yes, you know, these theists have such high morals ... just in the wrong place though.
They sure got their moral priorities straight in warped world.
Thank you, Matt, for helping me out of this insanity. I was so ready to hate you, and Dawkins, and Hitchins, all the rest, but I was wrong. I was so wrong.
Infidel, you'll sadly realize how you had it all and lost it when every knee will bow. You were never a true Christian.
@@childboo2450 He left your death cult. Good for him. You are a true Christian, this is demonstrated by your anger and twisted ideologies . Get off your knees,grow up and don't blame others for realising they were wrong. You have very little grasp on reality. Send me your intolerant reply of pig swill. L .
@@childboo2450 No True Scotsman Fallacy.
@@leyrua Fallacies will not save you on the DAY OF JUDGMENT!!!. That day you will wish you'd had faith.
@@bradweir6993 POOR FOOL!!!😥 I pity you.
'I have faith you could jump more than 4 feet...'
'I don't...'
LMFAO!!! This part was the best part of the clip. Fucking hilarious Matt.
Agree😂😂
I read this just as they were saying it, hilarious indeed.
Imagine being on trial for a murder you did not commit & the Judge allowing as evidence people who testify that you are guilty based on their faith. Faith is by definition NOT evidence & never will be.
@Ken North in that case, still no.
Salem's witches ring the bell?
@@johniec5282 bingo!
@Ken North ah well…that would surely seal your fate…
Sure that's not already happening? Been a juror a couple of times and sat on a lot of cases. There's always a couple who are religious and make false claims and thus cause a not guilty verdict when it was clear. Peoples lives are at stake when it gets to a jury as 99% of cases aren't brought anywhere near these judges and juries.
It's simply frustrating to see victims lives destroyed due to bad defence or jurors having preconceptions.
We are told to be open, unbiased and honest with ourselves for truth. We were given all manner of information and evidence, pertaining to the defence and prosecution pertaining to the case to help make up our minds.
"How did he pay for our sins."
Coupons. Jesus $ave$.😂
Lmao!
It's incredible to see how indoctrinated and clueless Zachary is. This is what Hitchens talked about when he said religion poisons everything. Zach's reasoning has been corrupted by the poison of religion.
i love when Matt asks a question (or any of the hosts) and the caller pauses before answering and you justknow they are thinking, "this is a trap" lol