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Комментарии • 3,7 тыс.

  • @gabrieljordan8015
    @gabrieljordan8015 3 года назад +512

    Atheism is when you personally read the Bible from cover to cover.
    Religion is the result when someone else reads it for you.

    • @BurntRaisinToast
      @BurntRaisinToast 3 года назад +8

      I wish I could repost this one.

    • @ren17x50
      @ren17x50 3 года назад +12

      Never heard it this way but pretty accurate

    • @frankmendez9178
      @frankmendez9178 3 года назад

      yes

    • @markwellington6250
      @markwellington6250 3 года назад +1

      @gabriel If you're going to quote someone else, you should cite them.

    • @markian788
      @markian788 3 года назад +1

      THANK YOU SIR

  • @frndofbear
    @frndofbear 3 года назад +1161

    We are so fucked. I know we are making tiny bits of progress, but oh my GOD it makes my head hurt that there are people like Helen who cancel my vote.

    • @Wildminecraftwolf
      @Wildminecraftwolf 3 года назад +63

      couldn't agree more

    • @bmurray942
      @bmurray942 3 года назад +64

      I'll watch these and a little part of me hopes these are trolls or paid actors but the truth is I don't have to walk 10 feet from my door to talk to these people face to face.

    • @qwadratix
      @qwadratix 3 года назад +52

      I don't think we're making progress. I see nothing to suggest that humans are getting any smarter, quite the opposite in fact. In the past, evolutionary pressure has favoured intelligence but here and now, I honestly believe that process has ended. This may well be the zenith of human enlightenment. I'm just grateful that there a few people about who can think reasonably straight and a few of them are in social positions where they can have an impact.
      Fact is that on the whole, we're still just apes.

    • @bct8881
      @bct8881 3 года назад +33

      @@qwadratix A species that can shape it's world to suit it's needs no longer requires adaption.
      Unless of course you're a species with bad habits like overexploitation of resources and overpopulation.

    • @bmurray942
      @bmurray942 3 года назад +25

      @@qwadratix The only reason most of us are here is to be mindless consumers. Idiocracy the documentary.

  • @bigmike4758
    @bigmike4758 2 года назад +87

    Helen is the reason why NASA doesn't debate flat-earthers.

  • @davec-1378
    @davec-1378 3 года назад +949

    Can you believe it’s 2021 and millions still think like this?
    Why cant we teach critical thinking in schools?

    • @TheTruthKiwi
      @TheTruthKiwi 3 года назад +51

      Ikr. I would LOVE to forward this to religious friends and relatives but I'm too damn nice.

    • @T_WILL77
      @T_WILL77 3 года назад +27

      2.4 Billion Christians roughly

    • @andrewrobert975
      @andrewrobert975 3 года назад +13

      Been asking this for years

    • @ari1234a
      @ari1234a 3 года назад +49

      Evolution is dangerous idea to some faiths.
      If evolution is true then there is no need for "Original Sin"
      If there is no need for "OS" then all the Pastors, Priests and Holy Men lose the moolah train.. Ooo the sweet monies.
      They are in constant need of money also the grip on people lives that they have, they would lose that too.
      So sure they are preaching that Evolution is just a theory.

    • @johndank2209
      @johndank2209 3 года назад +34

      if critical thinking was taught in schools it would be harder for the government to scam you. maybe "government" isnt the right word, the ELITES is what i mean.

  • @gregorywalker4997
    @gregorywalker4997 3 года назад +141

    helen knows nothing and is damn proud of it.

    • @Anonymous-md2qp
      @Anonymous-md2qp 2 года назад +2

      😂😂😂

    • @stevefmelb
      @stevefmelb 2 года назад

      Helen is simply cannon fodder, should not be allowed to vote.

  • @tonymurphy2624
    @tonymurphy2624 3 года назад +172

    "Islam doesn't teach self-sacrifice..."
    Errrm, I think somebody needs to think very carefully about that.

    • @Vhlathanosh
      @Vhlathanosh 3 года назад +9

      LOL there's literally a chant they do before they suicide themselves.

    • @ahetzel9054
      @ahetzel9054 3 года назад +5

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @therealMrA
      @therealMrA 2 года назад +9

      I hollered when she fucking said that

    • @graceskerp
      @graceskerp 2 года назад +6

      Too much to ask, but Helen might want to look up the Five Pillars of Islam: Declaration of Faith, Prayer, Almsgiving, Fasting and Pilgrimage. Three of them involve a sacrifice of at least time, resources, possibly health.

    • @LJW55
      @LJW55 2 года назад +11

      Yep, they're blowing themselves up all over the fucking place...

  • @deanlowdon8381
    @deanlowdon8381 3 года назад +720

    When you ask someone if slavery is immoral, and they don’t instantly say yes, that person is a lost cause...

    • @mider-spanman5577
      @mider-spanman5577 3 года назад +24

      Indeed. Waste of oxygen.

    • @denverarnold6210
      @denverarnold6210 3 года назад +34

      I'd argue they're not a lost cause unless they flat out say yes. The pause isn't a good thing, but the fact they have to think about it, even if a bullshit attempt to dance around the question, and don't say yesmeans they don't accept it. Imo, at least.

    • @nosuchthing8
      @nosuchthing8 3 года назад +3

      Good point.

    • @deanlowdon8381
      @deanlowdon8381 3 года назад +41

      @@denverarnold6210 The problem is it demonstrates they have no critical thinking skills. They’ll essentially try to justify anything their religion teachers, no matter how illogical...

    • @denverarnold6210
      @denverarnold6210 3 года назад +10

      @@deanlowdon8381 Fair point.

  • @bowlofdiogenes6139
    @bowlofdiogenes6139 3 года назад +251

    Helen has access to the majority of humanity's collective knowledge (libraries, internet) and still yearns for the dark ages.

    • @RideAcrossTheRiver
      @RideAcrossTheRiver 3 года назад +6

      What's more, she wants us to join her there. In fact, her cult insists we join it.

    • @bowlofdiogenes6139
      @bowlofdiogenes6139 3 года назад +16

      @@RideAcrossTheRiver well said, honestly these people freak me out way more than they make me feel pity for them or just laugh, almost like with every year that passes and humanity advances I feel we need to start taking the way they negatively impact our lives more seriously.

    • @margaretbarrett6087
      @margaretbarrett6087 3 года назад +15

      The reason she denies evolution is because it hasn’t happened to her yet !

    • @malcolmhodnett8874
      @malcolmhodnett8874 2 года назад +5

      Yearning is exactly what this is

    • @chrispbacon3042
      @chrispbacon3042 2 года назад +7

      @@margaretbarrett6087 Margaret you are very naughty girl! But you are bang on correct.

  • @lulolie
    @lulolie Год назад +76

    "Is Harry Potter true?"
    "Does it purport to be true?"
    Damn, all those those "true story" horror movies directors must *love* her

    • @LoLbertarian110
      @LoLbertarian110 4 месяца назад

      And who tf says pUrPoRt? 😂😂

    • @kriss3d
      @kriss3d 24 дня назад +1

      @@LoLbertarian110 Normal people.

    • @TREVORALLEN-tl4yt
      @TREVORALLEN-tl4yt 10 дней назад

      @@LoLbertarian110People who have transcended the boundaries of simple lexicon and childish images to a more mature narrative.

  • @michaelhezel1941
    @michaelhezel1941 3 года назад +707

    I'm glad to lve in germany. We don't discuss evangelists, we laugh at them.

    • @chudleyflusher748
      @chudleyflusher748 3 года назад +123

      I’ve never believed in American exceptionalism, but I’ve also never been ashamed to be an American-until 2016. The current proud strain of ignorance that has emerged is absolutely embarrassing.

    • @davidlanger3295
      @davidlanger3295 3 года назад +20

      Jeez you’re lucky

    • @BOYVIRGO666
      @BOYVIRGO666 3 года назад +8

      Other than martin luther you mean?

    • @markspahr242
      @markspahr242 3 года назад +14

      We do in the states, too. Yes, these are literally crazy times.

    • @maikt904
      @maikt904 3 года назад +7

      depends on the region you are living in i guess, sure we don't have a biblebelt area (yet) and we haven't copied the exact models of televangelisms but there is still a huge amount of religeous ppl here aswell on both sides of the pond

  • @Cellidor
    @Cellidor 3 года назад +132

    "How do you know that Islam is wrong and Christianity is right?
    "Because it's not Christianity"
    There you have it, the extent of the reasoning ability present as a result of strictly religious teachings.

  • @beeinthehive
    @beeinthehive 3 года назад +334

    "How do you know the bible is true?"
    "Because it says it is."
    Religious logic.

    • @duncanbryson1167
      @duncanbryson1167 3 года назад +30

      Well the Qur'an says it's the word of "God" as well:
      This is the Book in which there is no doubt, a guide for the righteous.
      So why isn't she a Muslim?
      All ancient books of mythology.

    • @beeinthehive
      @beeinthehive 3 года назад +14

      @@duncanbryson1167 Yeah, exactly. Deep down inside even they must know it's based on personal geography. What a coincidence so many of one type of religion come from and/or live in particular areas. I mean, come on. How could they not know?

    • @alifaize8750
      @alifaize8750 3 года назад +9

      That is circular reasoning and begging the question in Logical fallacy. So these people gotta read the logical reasoning book before they say anything at all.

    • @dennisbecraft1303
      @dennisbecraft1303 2 года назад +12

      @@beeinthehive They think the best country has the best religion. Nationalism & theism in mutual support.

    • @beeinthehive
      @beeinthehive 2 года назад +2

      @@alifaize8750 True.

  • @malemd
    @malemd 3 года назад +201

    She's reading her questions from a list.. one by one. But when asked questions she has no answers...

    • @ePICS8
      @ePICS8 3 года назад +16

      That makes sense haha

    • @bogdanshevyakov1969
      @bogdanshevyakov1969 3 года назад +20

      Also, the only difference between her and the most sophisticated theologian in the world - he has the list of answers to every question. Each one of those answers has been repeatedly proven wrong, but who cares, I mean come on, Jesus is knocking on everyone's door, that's what matters here, not who's right or wrong!

    • @davewilliams5102
      @davewilliams5102 2 года назад +3

      Helen is another Honor Graduate from Hovind's School of Science!

  • @sango3128
    @sango3128 3 года назад +428

    "Jesus is knocking on the door of your heart every day"
    "Cool so why is he sending your annoying ass too?"

    • @Paolo8772
      @Paolo8772 3 года назад +7

      She hung up before she could get an answer.

    • @denverarnold6210
      @denverarnold6210 3 года назад +11

      Why is he knocking when the door is open in invitation, and I still get bubkis.

    • @thetruthaboutscienceandgod6921
      @thetruthaboutscienceandgod6921 3 года назад

      @Jit 8 Jesus Christ / The God of the Bible said He stands at the door of your heart and knocks. God knows who you are; He wants you to know Him! But, Jesus isn't going to break down your door. He's given you free will. It's your decision whether to invite Him in.
      I pray that you will do that. Take care.

    • @thetruthaboutscienceandgod6921
      @thetruthaboutscienceandgod6921 3 года назад

      @@denverarnold6210 Jesus Christ / The God of the Bible said He stands at the door of your heart and knocks. God knows who you are; He wants you to know Him! But, Jesus isn't going to break down your door. He's given you free will. It's your decision whether to invite Him in.
      I pray that you will do that. Take care

    • @denverarnold6210
      @denverarnold6210 3 года назад +26

      @@thetruthaboutscienceandgod6921 Stop proselytizing and actually read what I said. If you can't listen, why the hell should I take what you say seriously?

  • @willbanks3793
    @willbanks3793 2 года назад +34

    The pauses Helen had were very telling. She was almost thinking, and then the indoctrination kicked in, and then came the excuses.

  • @johnmcclure40
    @johnmcclure40 3 года назад +166

    Well, Helen, congratulations. Most people don't have the strength to move goalposts as frequently and as far as you just did.

    • @johniec5282
      @johniec5282 3 года назад +6

      Helen must be a good goalkeeper with all her goalpost moving prowess.
      The US soccer team needs a new goalkeeper after this Olympics failure.

    • @kukuthefarmer2215
      @kukuthefarmer2215 3 года назад +3

      I liked your comment when it was at 69. I am so sorry. I just had to. Ok. I am unliking it.

    • @alabastergreen7444
      @alabastergreen7444 3 года назад +1

      It started as a 10 yard field goal and ended as a 90 yard field goal

    • @chrispbacon3042
      @chrispbacon3042 2 года назад +2

      Credit where credit is due, some of those Christians are master goal post movers. Cherry-picking too.

  • @benwhitnell
    @benwhitnell 3 года назад +283

    For what it’s worth, the key to Christianity isn’t self sacrifice. It’s having someone else sacrifice for you.

    • @uknowme1811
      @uknowme1811 3 года назад +13

      I was thinking the same thing..And she tried to claim muslims don't which was the kicker.

    • @VogtTD
      @VogtTD 3 года назад +7

      Or self delusion

    • @xarisstylianou6226
      @xarisstylianou6226 3 года назад +3

      Helen you have given me a headace!!!!!

    • @Captain-Cosmo
      @Captain-Cosmo 3 года назад +11

      "None of them are true except Christianity." That's a pretty thick bubble.

    • @Dr.TJ1
      @Dr.TJ1 3 года назад +10

      "It’s having someone else sacrifice for you." Which no one can actually do. You can forgive a debt or forgive a transgression, but you can't take away someone else's wrongdoing by sacrificing yourself. Sacrificing yourself does nothing to remove the original wrongdoing, it only makes you look foolish for having sacrificed yourself. Kind of puts the entire Christian religion into a new perspective, doesn't it?

  • @Herandezbrothers
    @Herandezbrothers 2 года назад +20

    “She’s probably high-fiving Jesus right now.”
    Lmao gold

  • @sledzeppelin
    @sledzeppelin 3 года назад +154

    Imagine watching Expelled and then thinking you have the tools to defeat skilled atheist debaters.

    • @AvNotasian
      @AvNotasian 3 года назад +7

      I kinda want to watch that train wreck of a movie now, I just worry that watching it could add a false fact to my memory which pollutes my ability to understand the world.

    • @sledzeppelin
      @sledzeppelin 3 года назад +6

      @@AvNotasian I've tried. I made it about 20 minutes in and couldn't take any more. It's just an avalanche of fallacies and bad-faith.

    • @Cellidor
      @Cellidor 3 года назад +4

      @@AvNotasian I'd suggest checking out 'The Bible Reloaded's video where they go through and watch it. Cringe movies are best seen with additional commentary I find!

    • @AvNotasian
      @AvNotasian 3 года назад +3

      @@Cellidor Yeah you are right, I couldn't get 10mins in before going "well thats bs" and turning it off. ill watch the bible reloaded content to help me get through it, ty :)

    • @nathanjora7627
      @nathanjora7627 3 года назад

      It’s kinda what it’s there to be though, I’d be surprised if even theists could see it’s bullshit without having watched the debunking of it or knowing the necessary facts to debunk it.

  • @puckerings
    @puckerings 3 года назад +128

    "The documentary Expelled...."
    You know right from the start that this is going to be a disaster. Expelled is not a documentary, it's propaganda.

    • @nightthornkvala94132
      @nightthornkvala94132 3 года назад +4

      When she mentioned that "documentary" I started giggling and couldn't stop.

    • @astrosci8864
      @astrosci8864 3 года назад +1

      Yeah. I lost my respect (small as it was) for Ben Stein after that. Absolute garbage. At least he introduced us to Jimmy Kimmel...

    • @astrosci8864
      @astrosci8864 3 года назад +1

      @Resurrected Again Agreed. It was a novelty for its time but the best thing from it was Jimmy Kimmel.

    • @astrosci8864
      @astrosci8864 3 года назад

      @Resurrected Again I expected nothing more from him... LOL.

    • @astrosci8864
      @astrosci8864 3 года назад +2

      @Resurrected Again Yeah. I did notice that. But, what did you expect from a former Nixon speechwriter?

  • @MarxistKnight
    @MarxistKnight 2 года назад +20

    Helen: Thinks that scientists are putting whatever interpretation they want on fossil evidence.
    Also Helen: Thinks that fossils in Mesopotamia proves the Garden of Eden.

  • @stephenland9361
    @stephenland9361 3 года назад +220

    I'm sure that this caller went away thinking, "I sure showed these guys that my religion is true!"

    • @kenbee1957
      @kenbee1957 3 года назад +3

      😆😆😆😆😆

    • @NeutralMjolkHotel
      @NeutralMjolkHotel 3 года назад +30

      “God tested me today :)”

    • @kenbee1957
      @kenbee1957 3 года назад +8

      @@NeutralMjolkHotel
      When are you getting back the results?

    • @NeutralMjolkHotel
      @NeutralMjolkHotel 3 года назад +9

      KEN BEE Turns out god is my father!

    • @kenbee1957
      @kenbee1957 3 года назад +13

      @@NeutralMjolkHotel
      Ah crap, dude
      He has this thing for sacrificing sons....

  • @krisaaron5771
    @krisaaron5771 3 года назад +311

    Helen sounds exactly like my mother, an otherwise intelligent woman who blinded herself when it came to her "faith" and her desperate need to believe in it.
    Mom never read scientific articles... or ANY materials that might challenge her or force her to think beyond self-imposed boundaries. She avoided adult discussions and was literally reduced to tears of frustration when people around her questioned religion.
    She died 15 years ago, firmly convinced to the last breath that her ancestors "in heaven" were waiting to greet her with open arms. I'm sorry to learn there are still people like Mom, who keep their minds on a tight leash.
    Poor Helen -- life isn't kind to the willfully ignorant.

    • @CommonSenseGUY79
      @CommonSenseGUY79 3 года назад +15

      @Kris Aaron , Did you just call Helen INTELLIGENT? Prove it...

    • @krisaaron5771
      @krisaaron5771 3 года назад +35

      @@CommonSenseGUY79 My MOTHER was the intelligent one, just gullible as hell when it came to something she wanted to believe.

    • @seadog2969
      @seadog2969 3 года назад +60

      My mom was the same way. She thought Covid was a hoax and that the blood of Christ would keep her alive. But in our last phone call, when she was suffocating to death from Covid, she wanted me to know her death wasn’t a suicide. She died on Christmas Eve. I felt relief bc she was no longer suffering and dying on Christmas Eve gave her some comfort. But I’ll always remember her death as totally preventable and rooted in fear and ignorance.

    • @tshepokgwele1789
      @tshepokgwele1789 3 года назад +36

      My mom is exactly the same as your mom, it pains me to tears, it has so negatively affected my family that we are completely dysfunctional, reading your comment just made me feel so frustrated at my own situation with my mom, because I know there's no hope for her, I know she's way beyond reasoning with, there's nothing I can do, it not fun to be an atheist because I am basically on the outside, looking into the transparent house of religion and seeing everybody ignoring the realities around them.
      I know about a family who demanded that nurses and doctors dare not give their father a blood transfusion, their father died.
      I know of a lady who refused to take medication because her church said theirs no greater healing than gods healing, she died.
      How many more people are going to needlessly die like this before Christians find a way out of that transparent house of indoctrination they call their church?. This is so frustrating and sad.

    • @krisaaron5771
      @krisaaron5771 3 года назад +21

      @@tshepokgwele1789 The "devout" have found their safe space and nothing anyone else can do or say will get them out of it!
      The world is big and scary. It takes real courage to think and analyze reality, and learning new things is exhausting. Their lives are far easier with a make-believe deity to guide them and hold their hand(s) -- especially a deity that has all the answers.
      To them, death only means seeing their beloved deity IN PERSON!!
      Nobody can get them out of their fantasy except themselves. They get furious when argued with because they can't logically defend their beliefs and on some level realize the concept of "god" is irrational. They feel threatened by anyone who doesn't think the same way they do -- and fear is a big part of being religious.
      It's sad when someone we love is sucked into this idiocy, but we can't help them escape -- they have to do it themselves.

  • @stevea.b.9282
    @stevea.b.9282 3 года назад +25

    it's calls like this that remind me how important your show is.. people like her are dangerous, they never EVER stop and ask themselves any questions. Their confidence is terrifying.

    • @jens2old2care
      @jens2old2care 8 месяцев назад

      Agreed. People with this type of blind faith are voting and infiltrating government- and causing tangible harm to innocent people.

  • @Trajan_2.3.5.41
    @Trajan_2.3.5.41 3 года назад +46

    Another fine example of how embarrassing our education system is in America. This woman is a joke.

  • @JamesFarrOfficial
    @JamesFarrOfficial 3 года назад +545

    One of the best nutshell summaries of circular religious stupidity I've ever heard. Thanks, Helen!

    • @jerryp6001
      @jerryp6001 3 года назад +38

      The sooner you recognize you are talking to someone like this, the sooner you can throw you hands in the air and walk away. Some people are some dumb theya re not even capable of realizing how dumb they are. It is pointless to even attempt to try and help them figure that out. Not sure at what age that is salvageable. Teens, yes. 20's, yes. Once someone gets into their 30's...the odds of getting someone to change or see the light is extremely tiny. Better to move on than attempt to save that one lost sheep.

    • @rueh69
      @rueh69 3 года назад

      @@jerryp6001 p

    • @rueh69
      @rueh69 3 года назад +1

      L lol look 😆😂

    • @quantumconciousscorner2911
      @quantumconciousscorner2911 3 года назад +19

      @@jerryp6001 I disagree that she/they are Dumb she might be rather intelligent in other areas. Her belief does not make her dumb, it makes her indoctrinated and unable to recognize her own failings.

    • @chermoore7144
      @chermoore7144 3 года назад +19

      @@quantumconciousscorner2911 I'm not so sure. I think ones degree of susceptibility to indoctrination must certainly be part of the IQ formula. Even if it isn't, it takes a degree of intelligence for a person to realize they have been fooled and to pull the blinders from their eyes. Either way, on the scale of intelligence, I'd say Helen is unremarkable at best.

  • @Rob-fc9wg
    @Rob-fc9wg 2 года назад +57

    If a man of science went back 2000 years he'd have an overwhelming amount information for the people.
    If a man of religion went back, he'd have nothing new to tell them.

    • @bigred0079
      @bigred0079 Год назад +6

      The scientist would've been burned at a stake for witchcraft and we'd be in the same predicament...........we've also failed education for those 2000 years hence.......

    • @Rob-fc9wg
      @Rob-fc9wg Год назад +1

      @@bigred0079
      You are probably correct.

    • @kingspeechless1607
      @kingspeechless1607 Год назад

      I've no doubt he could give them some sophisticated theological reasoning (aka bullsh*t) to make himself a star (or they might stone him).

    • @tristanmisja
      @tristanmisja Год назад

      ​@@bigred0079Maybe not, I don't think modern math and medicine would get you burnt, and chemistry, cosmology & physics could be changed a little to seem like astronomy or alchemy.

    • @IRGeamer
      @IRGeamer 8 месяцев назад

      As an atheist for over 4 decades, could someone inform me how many more decades I have to be an atheist before wilfully ignorant, hyperbolic rhetoric like this becomes acceptable and not just a gross, self serving assertion?

  • @themplar
    @themplar 3 года назад +366

    Holy crap, Helen is entirely morally bankrupt. I feel sad for her since this clearly is an indoctrinated and completely sheltered from any reason, or reality by the horrible persons around her.

    • @ericwilliams1659
      @ericwilliams1659 3 года назад +19

      But a documentary told her

    • @octapc
      @octapc 3 года назад +44

      This is why religious people shouldn't be allowed to be politicians.

    • @adamgrimsley2900
      @adamgrimsley2900 3 года назад

      No she isn't totally morally bankrupt. You think she isn't capable of respect, love and compassion?

    • @Wisdom24-7
      @Wisdom24-7 3 года назад

      This is a bunch of BULLSHIT no humans evolved from no Ape if that is true why and the hell did the ape stop evolving into humans how did the first apple orange pears get to earth the fruit did not pop out the sky God created the seeds to grow the fruit u people are idiots God please help these idiots🙏🙏

    • @ericwilliams1659
      @ericwilliams1659 3 года назад +28

      @@Wisdom24-7 nice copy paste spam

  • @supertouring22
    @supertouring22 3 года назад +153

    Typical religious ego shown here. Came to tell then they were wrong but at every difficult question she was asked there was a momentary silence while she realised that she could not answer the question without the tower of cards collapsing, so just changed the subject. Credit to matt for following it through.

    • @Conan_the_rastafarian
      @Conan_the_rastafarian 3 года назад

      Hello, I would like to comment on the typical religious ego part of your reply. In the Bible, there are numerous verses on being humble and serving others. Although Christians can behave poorly, its not taught as typical behavior. Philippians 2:3
      3 Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit. Rather, in humility value others above yourselves

    • @MG-ot2yr
      @MG-ot2yr 3 года назад +35

      @@Conan_the_rastafarian I don't know a single Christian that follows the Bible, if they did then they'd have sold off all their possessions, given their money to the poor, many would be missing their right hand and/or an eye, there would be constant battles in the courts with Christians wanting to double their fines, they'd hate their families to follow Jesus, and so on.....

    • @Conan_the_rastafarian
      @Conan_the_rastafarian 3 года назад +1

      @@MG-ot2yr Yeah, I know. I mess up everyday. It sucks when Christians and non-Christians look the same.

    • @budd2nd
      @budd2nd 3 года назад +18

      @@Conan_the_rastafarian
      Yes Jess I want my beliefs to be proved beyond reasonable doubt and independently corroborated. I want them to consult coincide/conform with demonstrable reality and be the most successful explanatory model. Sadly Christianity like all religions fails on each of these points.
      Which is why I don’t bother with any of them. Until there is actual independently corroborated evidence for any of their BS.

    • @Conan_the_rastafarian
      @Conan_the_rastafarian 3 года назад +1

      @@budd2nd I'm glad you are living a successful life, I'm trying to do the same. Science is amoral. Not all of your personal moral beliefs are universal. What's your favorite movie by the way?

  • @rtart.e5458
    @rtart.e5458 2 года назад +27

    The sad part about this is the fact that when she hopped off this phone call, after simply waiting to get a turn to speak rather than listening and engaging in conversation, You know she told everyone that they were just in denial and that they didn't have a single answer for her and couldn't refuse a single one of her points, when in reality she couldn't answer a question and would rather pivot to an analogous question. Sad

  • @El.Duderino369
    @El.Duderino369 3 года назад +41

    I think this call put the last nail in the coffin for me. R.I.P. to my childhood Christianity

    • @jesterc.6763
      @jesterc.6763 7 месяцев назад +7

      Rip childhood indoctrination, and hello adulthood enlightenment.

    • @Godless_Doc
      @Godless_Doc 5 месяцев назад +4

      Welcome to reality.

  • @unavailableusername9694
    @unavailableusername9694 3 года назад +63

    My parents did me a great service, they never mentioned God, they never made me go to church, and they always tried to give me the best practical answer for my silly kid questions. We celebrated Christmas but my dad called it a celebration of life. I met a Christian girl later and thought she was nuts. I cant imagine growing up with this indoctrination.

    • @ahetzel9054
      @ahetzel9054 3 года назад +9

      I was raised Christian, church sucks...

    • @eddhardy1054
      @eddhardy1054 2 года назад +3

      Same here mate. My Mum and Dad let me work out whether religious beliefs are justified or not for myself...and I've been an agnostic atheist since I was about 8 years old 😉😊

    • @AgrippaTheMighty
      @AgrippaTheMighty Год назад

      I grew up Mormon and remained so for 28 years. My parents weren't well educated but were honorable people who loved us kids. However, you were very fortunate not to have been indoctrinated. But I adapted and used the Internet to find the facts: All religions are human fabrications!

    • @spackar2720
      @spackar2720 Год назад +2

      I was also raised without religion. I am very grateful.

    • @DaveJansenTPV
      @DaveJansenTPV Год назад +2

      Thank god (lol) i grew up in a country where being atheïst in the norm and you don't get bullied or laughed at when you're not religious, excluding some minor area's maybe.

  • @SnuffitLabs
    @SnuffitLabs 3 года назад +25

    Then Thor has to be true, according to Helen, because Thor sacrificed himself to slay the world serpent at ragnarok and restart the world. Clearly a self sacrifice!

    • @Preservestlandry
      @Preservestlandry 2 года назад +1

      There are so many savior gods. Why doesn't she believe Mithras? Horus? Lord Rama?

    • @robertlongwill8856
      @robertlongwill8856 4 месяца назад +2

      Good good point about Thor I believe in Thor because War exists as does thunder and he is the god of war and the god of thunder so he must be a true God LMAO

  • @houmm08
    @houmm08 3 года назад +43

    That was embarrassing and somewhat pointless. She didn't listen, absorb, process and react honestly. They never do.

    • @jerryp6001
      @jerryp6001 3 года назад +2

      This call was not for her benefit. It was for ours.
      To see Matt rage...and to remind us...there are nutjobs out there. Don't forget

    • @tomterific390
      @tomterific390 2 года назад

      She's an example of someone thoroughly unprepared to be part of any kind of intellectual discussion on the subject. In fairness to her, her "dishonesty" is unintentional, and therefore not really dishonest. She's simply clueless, and incapable of responding to anything posed to her in any other way than to sidestep the questions she cannot answer by flitting off to a different subject, like a butterfly going from one flower to the next ("...but what about..."?). Her mind is (likely permanently) fixed to the level of a 7-year old indoctrinated in Sunday School.

  • @MrKit9
    @MrKit9 3 года назад +42

    Helen's husband is hanging from the oak tree in their backyard. He was happy to go.

    • @ingebygstad9667
      @ingebygstad9667 3 года назад +2

      Oh you did _not_ write that...! Oh you did... Well if I heard this shit was coming out my coming wife's mouth, I'd probably be dangling from some tree too.

    • @Vhlathanosh
      @Vhlathanosh 2 года назад +2

      LOL 😂😂

    • @cosmai23
      @cosmai23 Год назад

      You went there. Nice. It needed to be done.

    • @xXscissors_61Xx
      @xXscissors_61Xx 11 месяцев назад

      ROFL

  • @Iceman77772
    @Iceman77772 3 года назад +15

    "She's high fiving Jesus" is brilliant! Dave is awesome. 🤣

  • @robertdullnig3625
    @robertdullnig3625 3 года назад +60

    "Fundagelical" is my new favorite word.

    • @COMALiteJ
      @COMALiteJ 3 года назад +2

      This is really the first time you’ve heard that? That one’s been around for at least a decade online. See also *Talibangelical* (referring to Dominionists / Christian Nationalists who seek to establish a Christian theocracy in the USA, like the Taliban is to Islam).

    • @mattwhite7287
      @mattwhite7287 3 года назад +1

      It sounds tasty for some reason, sweet, soft and moist.

    • @roguesheep3083
      @roguesheep3083 3 года назад +2

      Never heard of it, either. But i try to avoid deranged people.

  • @uknowme1811
    @uknowme1811 3 года назад +96

    I was waiting for Paulogia's " For my Bible tells me so " Jingle.

    • @benkrapf
      @benkrapf 3 года назад +4

      omg she's a poster child

    • @dmc3079
      @dmc3079 3 года назад

      hahaha

    • @FakingANerve
      @FakingANerve 3 года назад

      Haha! I absolutely thought of it multiple times too. 😂👍

  • @budd2nd
    @budd2nd 3 года назад +17

    There have been over 300 specimens of Australopithecus (Lucy’s species) found now. They were an entire population of early hominids. They weren’t ALL deformed.

    • @chrispbacon3042
      @chrispbacon3042 2 года назад +2

      No you are correct , just ones named Helen were deformed.

  • @richardhedd3080
    @richardhedd3080 3 года назад +63

    Every time I watch atheist experience it boils down to trying to teach critical thinking to people who are immune to it.

    • @RideAcrossTheRiver
      @RideAcrossTheRiver 3 года назад +2

      It's a form of narcissistic personality disorder.

    • @24magiccarrot
      @24magiccarrot 3 года назад +6

      @@RideAcrossTheRiver I think it's more a fear of death than anything. If what they believe isn't true then it means that when they die they aren't going to be reunited with their gran that they miss in some happy-clappy paradise being served cocktails by Jesus.

    • @RideAcrossTheRiver
      @RideAcrossTheRiver 3 года назад +1

      @@24magiccarrot Are those wine cocktails?

    • @24magiccarrot
      @24magiccarrot 3 года назад +3

      @@RideAcrossTheRiver The base alcohol in them is the holy spirit.

    • @HunnidTheTrapper02
      @HunnidTheTrapper02 Год назад

      @@24magiccarrot 😂😂😂😂

  • @drlegendre
    @drlegendre 3 года назад +57

    "Well I read in TIME MAGAZINE.."
    Oh.. Crack. Me. Up!

    • @fusionfan6883
      @fusionfan6883 3 года назад +4

      Ha Ha yes, and sadly we never hear people like Helen saying “well I read in a science text book”. We can but dream!

    • @drlegendre
      @drlegendre 3 года назад +4

      @@fusionfan6883 And if they do ever quote a textbook, it will be some decades out-of-date, middle school Earth Science material cherry-picked specifically for its dated, superceded content.
      If it works for Kent Hovind, it can work for her too!

    • @emptybucket1988
      @emptybucket1988 5 месяцев назад

      Wow she can read

  • @phoenixfire8226
    @phoenixfire8226 3 года назад +11

    I was an atheist before I watched this. Helen's arguments convinced me that the Lord our savior, Jesus Christ, is in fact, real. Said no one ever.

  • @tonydarcy1606
    @tonydarcy1606 3 года назад +227

    No wonder Matt gets exasperated at times ! Every time she got caught out on something, she changed the subject ! "What about Lucy? " Well what about Lucy, Helen ?

    • @twig8523
      @twig8523 3 года назад +9

      What about Lucy? She's a transitional form between ape & man, Helen!

    • @Leszek.Rzepecki
      @Leszek.Rzepecki 3 года назад +12

      To be fair, there was a kerfuffle about one of the bones attributed to Lucy being in fact, a baboon bone, and it's still undecided (last I looked) whether that is the case, but scientists all agree the rest of her is genuine. It's also doubtful her species was direct ancestral, more likely a distant cousin. Part of the same branch, though.

    • @TmRnBn
      @TmRnBn 3 года назад +12

      @Jordan Powell Evolution is not a ladder: it's a bush. Problem is some folks are shaving their bushes to nothing, so can't grasp the concept.

    • @murph8411
      @murph8411 3 года назад +7

      There are a large number of Australopithecus Africanus fossils available now. Granted we don’t find complete skeletons but there are bones from hundreds of individuals so the deformed individual argument doesn’t hold water.

    • @TmRnBn
      @TmRnBn 3 года назад +3

      @@murph8411 Australopithecines are much farther down the Homo path than Pongo, Pan, or Gorilla. I'd say simply that humans are still apes (Hominids). The argument would then go back to common ancestry between apes and monkeys--then prosimians--then tree shrews--etc... It's amazing that we have as complete a picture as we have, not that there are minor little gaps in the known record.

  • @kafkadre6440
    @kafkadre6440 3 года назад +33

    "I was watching 'Expelled' and I have no critical thinking skills" ~ Helen from NC

  • @godlessolddude305
    @godlessolddude305 3 года назад +14

    I feel sorry for folks like Helen...the ignorance literally hurts.

  • @Wonderrbread01
    @Wonderrbread01 3 года назад +54

    Dave is such a great compliment to Matt. Matt is great at arguing points and using logic in a quick setting. Dave really does a great job in relating with the religious claims and interjecting with straightforward and simple arguments.

    • @tok1879
      @tok1879 3 года назад +3

      Really? 🤔 I guess it's just me but this seemed to me like a mismatch.

    • @RoamingHeathen
      @RoamingHeathen 3 года назад +1

      Yeh I was thinking that Dave was out of his depth and interrupting Matt’s points at the worst times

    • @tylerdurden6917
      @tylerdurden6917 3 года назад

      @@RoamingHeathen same

    • @bigwendigo2253
      @bigwendigo2253 2 года назад

      @@RoamingHeathen to me, it felt like Dave is able to sync with or maybe empathize a bit easier with people who’ve been completely indoctrinated by religion and I think it added a soft touch to Matt’s harsh tone. I thought they were a good match, personally.
      Shaking someone and saying “wake up dumbass” isn’t always the best way of getting someone to open up and think about things a little more critically. I understand Matt’s attitude, though, dealing with these people every stream would be frustrating on a whole nother level. There’s very few who want to admit they’re wrong, try to change the way they think, or that are open minded.

  • @robsutton6780
    @robsutton6780 3 года назад +97

    It's quite sad listening to her trapped and going in circles. Pure conditioning right there.

    • @gabrieljordan8015
      @gabrieljordan8015 3 года назад +6

      I use to be absolutely no different. Let's not give up on these people just yet. :)

    • @BurntRaisinToast
      @BurntRaisinToast 3 года назад

      @@gabrieljordan8015 Yes. I was brought up in a church every Sunday household, and even wanted to become a minister for a brief time in my adolescence. Many of my family members and ALL of the remaining ancients are firm believers in the resurrection of the God Jesus Christ to this day and will be until they die. I talk to very few of them about religion (usually the other non-believers), and if compelled to attend a service (funeral, wedding, etc) I join in because these are people I love & respect, and my atheism isn’t as important as my love for them. I understand where they’re coming from, and why they believe what they do. I find it easier to tolerate the faith of the ancients, and notice that many of the younger generations no longer attend services.
      Generations of indoctrination are difficult to unlearn intellectually, and absolutely painful to unlearn emotionally. Giving up a crutch of belief that one has been told all one’s life one can rely on, isn’t a mere matter of listening to scientific reason. It takes deep introspection and a willingness to admit that a huge part of one’s life experience was based on lies. Who can honestly claim that should be easy to do? Unless they’re both intellectually and emotionally prepared to accept a vastly different world-view that includes being entirely personally responsible for one’s actions - forever! - the Helens of the world will continue to believe exactly as they do.

  • @G00berella
    @G00berella 3 года назад +22

    Matt's responses were so on point. Also, loved how we went from evolution to slavery in one quick sweep.

  • @dpledford1
    @dpledford1 3 года назад +127

    I started my science education as a Christian, wanting the religious claims to be true. The more I learned the less I saw nothing showed did just that. I had the preconceived notion that it was true. I did not place on it what I wanted. I followed the evidence, and eventually accepted that evidence. With that acceptance I was forced to reject god.

    • @cy-one
      @cy-one 3 года назад

      Do you mean "reject" as in "I'm not convinced it exists" or "convinced it does not exist"?

    • @Amoth_oth_ras_shash
      @Amoth_oth_ras_shash 3 года назад

      what use is a hollow assertion so to speak... besides , bastet and Tor is better party mates for any potential afterlife ;) love mythology and culture loath religion for the dishonesty it trains or mental blocks it conditions!

    • @tshepokgwele1789
      @tshepokgwele1789 3 года назад

      @@Amoth_oth_ras_shash good for you, Namoth... Good for you 👌

    • @Amoth_oth_ras_shash
      @Amoth_oth_ras_shash 3 года назад

      @@tshepokgwele1789 at times humor is the sharpest tool to view times like these in , just a lill bit jesting with the reflections.

    • @dpledford1
      @dpledford1 3 года назад +6

      @@cy-one I am not convinced there is any god or anything outside of the natural world. I am an atheist.

  • @vatsmith8759
    @vatsmith8759 3 года назад +34

    It's amazing that these people can even learn how to work a telephone.

  • @brynpookc1127
    @brynpookc1127 2 года назад +5

    Helen came to a gun fight with spitballs. And she ran out of them in about 1 minute.

  • @badgermacfeegal618
    @badgermacfeegal618 3 года назад +78

    She spins in so many circles, I am surprised she isn't dizzy

    • @mider-spanman5577
      @mider-spanman5577 3 года назад +6

      She most likely is, she tries to play it off to no avail. I heard the shakiness in her voice.

    • @mikesandmire1382
      @mikesandmire1382 3 года назад +2

      She sounded dizzy to me. They all do, amateurs are spinning furiously, professionals slightly less so, but the arguments are exactly the same. It's sad because it is like the last 10 years never happened, these callers could easily be mistaken for those from a decade ago.

    • @davidlanger3295
      @davidlanger3295 3 года назад +4

      I’m amazed that people like Helen are even allowed to vote

    • @SceptiGus
      @SceptiGus Месяц назад

      She is dizzy!

  • @avellinklater3566
    @avellinklater3566 3 года назад +120

    She is completely terrified of looking inward because that might reveal things that she (and others) have lied to her(self) about for her entire life.

    • @jpizzleforizzle
      @jpizzleforizzle 3 года назад +7

      Exactly! Cognitive dissonance is a mean bitch.

    • @78musiksphere
      @78musiksphere 3 года назад +2

      "terrified" grasps it quite well! it is frightening because coming into new awareness is scary at first!

    • @kindlerashod
      @kindlerashod 3 года назад +3

      I recently wrote an article on Facebook explaining my reasons for why Satan is not an actual person, that Satan is a symbol of one's own ego. Christians didn't like that. They defended Satan's existence so they can point fingers away from themselves.

    • @atheistechoes9594
      @atheistechoes9594 3 года назад +1

      My family told me flat out that im not allowed to talk about atheism with them so much for freedom of speech

    • @atheistechoes9594
      @atheistechoes9594 3 года назад +1

      @@kindlerashod ironic isn't it how everything really relys on satan being real

  • @scionofdorn9101
    @scionofdorn9101 Год назад +5

    Atheism allows you to acknowledge that there is NEVER any circumstance in which it is acceptable to own other people as property. Religion tells you it's okay if God allows it, and even gives you buying and selling tips.
    If there were never another reason to reject religion, that one alone would be sufficient.

  • @BlackReshiram
    @BlackReshiram 3 года назад +43

    She is literally JUST preaching, wtf.

  • @dkyoungson151
    @dkyoungson151 3 года назад +35

    Dave's sighs are priceless.

    • @mider-spanman5577
      @mider-spanman5577 3 года назад +3

      Honestly, I was doing the same throughout the video. She had no common sense and is so disingenuous and emotional.

  • @jameswright...
    @jameswright... 2 года назад +7

    If heaven is true give me hell, I can't bare the thought of spending eternity with people like Helen.

  • @JackgarPrime
    @JackgarPrime 3 года назад +58

    "I was watching the documentary Expelled" whew, that's the definition of "off to a bad start".

    • @Alex-0597
      @Alex-0597 3 года назад

      @Warren Higgins Sure, Expelled raises some interesting questions, but it goes out of it's way to avoid giving the answers in order to promote ID.

    • @COMALiteJ
      @COMALiteJ 3 года назад +2

      “Expelled” should be expelled from the classification of “documentary.”

  • @John_Demarco
    @John_Demarco 3 года назад +49

    "Jesus is knocking at the door of your heart."
    Is that my tricuspid valve or my mitral valve?

    • @thegrouchization
      @thegrouchization 3 года назад +2

      Might be at the Aorta.

    • @timterrell8678
      @timterrell8678 3 года назад +3

      It’s actually the grim reaper because those valves are blocked off lol.

    • @el29
      @el29 3 года назад

      in the bible heart represent soul, So it means your personality. .......therefore you're person as a being. But not only the manifestations of your personality but more deeply about the inner core of your'e personality that manifests your behaviour. Your inner pshyce in its deepest core. People dont understand original symbolic languages or hebrew as a real language as it is or its language culture.
      It's Like when people joke about "Adam and Eve took a fruit from the "Tree" and they belive its physical.
      But if you look in the symbolic pararells in the whole bible you will realize a Tree is a Soul as often jesus represented it as and also the rest of the bible. A Soul is ( Personality ---) Person). Adam & Eve (That represents humanity if you would look it up ) took from the Devil ( Aka Fallen Person that is a angel).
      They didn't take the "Tree" ( Lucifer") They took from the fruits ( Manifestations from Lucifer) Etc. But those who are spiritualy blind or lacking knowledge in ancient languages or fail to see the bigger contexts they miss the points constantly and belive "They took from a physical tree and ate a physical fruit". Thats what happends when you dont understand hebrew from the foundation or have bad translations or lack of knowledge in symbolic representations or just lack of wisdom.

    • @timterrell8678
      @timterrell8678 3 года назад +2

      @@el29 Deuteronomy 4:29 mentions heart and soul as two separate things. That’s what’s great about the Bible is that people can make up whatever they want to make it say anything.

    • @el29
      @el29 3 года назад

      @@timterrell8678 No its when people dont get it, i have already said, the heart is the inner chamber of the soul. Its personality in its biggest deepest core, but its still Soul. , its not youre body or the Holy Spirit or Spirit. Go and make up some more false belives. Its not seperate its a duality of the same coin, ying and yang and Tao. Even if you call the sun rays seperate from the Sun it does not mean its not the Sun. They are 2 but they are 1. And youre last comment will stand for you. You know hebrew ?. You are just totaly wrong simple as that, they have never been seperated.

  • @BudgetFilmmaking
    @BudgetFilmmaking 2 года назад +6

    As far as Lucy is concerned, she's not the only specimen of Austrelopithecus Afarensis we've found. For us to find one specimen with these specific and predictable "deformities" would have been amazing considering how seldom things fossilize. But to find multiple specimen, with the exact same deformities in the exact same places is inconceivable. There's is no possibility that Lucy was a deformed human.

  • @huffpappy
    @huffpappy 3 года назад +25

    This is a great example of how religious beliefs can destroy a mind. So many circular arguments in such a short period of time.

  • @arod0623
    @arod0623 Год назад +4

    Dave: can you prove that Harry Potter is not true?
    Lady: fossils
    🤣🤣🤣

  • @jasonwitte9582
    @jasonwitte9582 3 года назад +67

    Matt's response to the location of the garden of Eden was epic! I laughed out loud.

    • @joshuastrobel6826
      @joshuastrobel6826 3 года назад +6

      Me too hahahaha

    • @mider-spanman5577
      @mider-spanman5577 3 года назад +10

      The Mormons think it’s in fucking Missouri!

    • @dennisbecraft1303
      @dennisbecraft1303 2 года назад +2

      He told her the bible doesn't say Eden was in Mesopotamia, but he should have also said scientists don't either. They have evidence humans first appeared in Africa. He should have pointed out her apologists fooled her twice.

    • @jerrylong6238
      @jerrylong6238 2 года назад

      @@dennisbecraft1303 I believe the Buybull says that the garden of Eden was in Iraq, or somewhere around Iraq. It says where two rivers met, and I looked up the two rivers it mentioned, and they meet right around Iraq. I just went back and looked up the rivers again, it was the Tigris, and the Euphrates. The Buybull says it is where these two rivers come to head, or meet. So by the map in my Buybull that is Iraq.

    • @irish_deconstruction
      @irish_deconstruction 2 года назад

      @@jerrylong6238 The Bible mentions four rivers; Pison, Gihon, Hiddekel and Euphrates. This is very weak evidence this refers to the Iraqi Rivers, as it is plausible they are talking about completely different rivers because you must remember places had different names back then, aswell as the fact that there are no rivers called Pison or Gihon, just the other two.

  • @maxxmabemwe4859
    @maxxmabemwe4859 3 года назад +42

    Archie Bunker was wrong about almost everything, but even he would call this woman a dingbat.

    • @johnobrien1528
      @johnobrien1528 3 года назад

      Name three things Archie was wrong about?

    • @davewilliams5102
      @davewilliams5102 3 года назад +1

      Maxx Mabemwe That was a great comment. I am still laughing. TY.

    • @theo-dawg8519
      @theo-dawg8519 3 года назад +1

      Archie was the man. Right or wrong.

    • @johnobrien1528
      @johnobrien1528 3 года назад

      @@theo-dawg8519 always

  • @MariaKoroleva.Realtor
    @MariaKoroleva.Realtor 2 года назад +4

    “I’m going to call the atheist show who don’t take anything on faith and tell them that I take things on faith”. Such a productive thought through call! 🤣 “Helen, Helen, Helen, Helen…” reminded me of that voiceover animal bit by BBC ONE. Hilarious:)

  • @sledzeppelin
    @sledzeppelin 3 года назад +38

    I can’t believe that anyone could watch 5 minutes of Ben Stein’s propaganda and not see through it.

    • @pcppbadminton
      @pcppbadminton 3 года назад

      The phrase "preaching to the choir" comes to mind. It was made only to reinforce blind faith with pseudo-science.

  • @twiki1559
    @twiki1559 3 года назад +24

    Sadly I know way too many "Helens".
    You will never get through to them. The incredible ignorance is truly impenetrable.

    • @campfireaddict6417
      @campfireaddict6417 3 года назад +6

      I agree. And sweet as sugar, dumb as a bag of hammers, but can sting like a wasp. Especially well entrenched in a community that expects you to be in church, etc. or inquiries as to what was wrong last Sunday, did you go to early services instead or were you sick? The night has a thousand eyes but so does the day, and those Helens tend to have a lot of support ( and fear).

    • @margaretbarrett6087
      @margaretbarrett6087 3 года назад +8

      The reason they deny evolution is because it hasn’t happened to them yet !

  • @AbrahamMeat
    @AbrahamMeat 2 года назад +8

    She has to be within the top 10 less intelligent callers in the history of the show.

  • @CausalityLoop
    @CausalityLoop 3 года назад +12

    10 seconds in: "Well I was watching the documentary Expelled..."
    *grabs popcorn*

  • @AvNotasian
    @AvNotasian 3 года назад +24

    "How do we know lucy wasn't just a short woman with a deformity"
    Because there was a whole population of lucys which implies they were all "defromed" in the same way due to their genetics. The very argument that she was a deformed human is an admission of bother common ancestry and evolution.

  • @burrellbikes4969
    @burrellbikes4969 3 года назад +8

    The “faith” argument is killing me. Why can’t we humans admit that sometimes we just don’t know and we need to learn more.

    • @ingebygstad9667
      @ingebygstad9667 3 года назад +1

      Because not knowing is somehow not allowed in religious circles, while a priced, and a perfect and the most valid answer an Atheist or scientist can answer. The truth is though, they don't know shit. What does "God did it" even mean? It's just a convoluted way of saying I don't know. But when that line doesn't fit, and when you consider religious people don't like being believed as ignorant, saying "I don't know" is a no no.

    • @TheTruthKiwi
      @TheTruthKiwi 2 года назад +2

      Because if they admit they don't actually know and confess that it might all actually be total bs they are terrified that they might lose a seat in the eternal retirement village in the sky.

  • @TH3-MONK
    @TH3-MONK 3 года назад +113

    Helen is unfixable.

    • @visforvegan8
      @visforvegan8 3 года назад +16

      I don't know, I think we can work with this. You're short on rent, tell Helen god told you that she should pay it. Boom, you're golden. Just think of all the applications. Helen is a very helpful person.

    • @christophzeit6282
      @christophzeit6282 3 года назад +1

      ix = uck

    • @richardlewin9282
      @richardlewin9282 3 года назад +4

      That's going to be a tough nut to crack. So many years of indoctrination she really doesn't know any better 😩

    • @_Somsnosa_
      @_Somsnosa_ 2 года назад

      Even if she is unfixable, her call might help another theist question their beliefs.

  • @seanjones2456
    @seanjones2456 3 года назад +55

    This reminds me of the time Richard Dawkins had the frustrating conversation with Wendy Wright. I compare it to someone picking Gilbert Gottfried over Lebron James in a pickup basketball game.

    • @complexeddrummer
      @complexeddrummer 3 года назад +3

      I'm definitely picking Gilbert Gottfried

    • @seanjones2456
      @seanjones2456 3 года назад

      @@complexeddrummer great move

    • @thomasowens5824
      @thomasowens5824 3 года назад +4

      The day I nearly punched my laptop...... I never knew people like her existed.

    • @RideAcrossTheRiver
      @RideAcrossTheRiver 3 года назад +1

      I'd pay to see Gilbert Gottfried remove Wendy Wright's smile.

    • @burntgod7165
      @burntgod7165 3 года назад +1

      You're not allowed to mention Dawkins now. He's been excommunicated by American atheists, some of whom seem to have lost their way.

  • @arthurneddysmith
    @arthurneddysmith Год назад +3

    0:06 "I was watching the documentary 'Expelled,' [now let me tell you what is wrong with science--science being as foreign to me as Sanskrit is to the average Australian child."

  • @mabatch3769
    @mabatch3769 3 года назад +25

    She watched the “documentary” Expelled. That’s hilarious. She probably should go talk to an evolutionary biologist instead of watching propaganda or calling into an atheist talk show.

  • @seanalexandre5299
    @seanalexandre5299 3 года назад +15

    Remember that song from the 80's "You spin me right round baby right round, like a record baby, right round round round." Now I understand the inspiration for that song.

  • @doubtful_form
    @doubtful_form Год назад +4

    What needed to be fixed about Lucy? The only thing that was "doubtful" was her damaged pelvis. The reconstruction was warranted when they found all the other fossils including "little foot"

    • @jdevlin1910
      @jdevlin1910 8 месяцев назад

      Yep and it's only becuase it's become a target. The rest of these idiots don't know we have multiple skeletons of Lucy's type but becuase it's become famous it becomes something they need to debunk to win, silly as that is.

  • @sportsfaninternational1614
    @sportsfaninternational1614 3 года назад +33

    The poor woman. She had NO idea what she was getting into when she called in. Assuming you have a "reasonable" Gotcha! argument doesn't make your argument reasonable. But it's fun learning new "facts" from these kind of people. Garden of Eden was in Mesopotamia. Hearts have doors. Religion can ONLY be true if there's a "saviour". My knowledge keeps expanding! 😁

    • @TheTruthKiwi
      @TheTruthKiwi 3 года назад +3

      That is Chandler Bing level sarcasm ;)

    • @sportsfaninternational1614
      @sportsfaninternational1614 3 года назад

      @@TheTruthKiwi I'll take that! Even though the show itself wasn't THAT funny, I'll admit I watched it for tge sarcasm, and (as a younger male) Jennifer Aniston's "wardrobe"! 😂

    • @budd2nd
      @budd2nd 3 года назад

      Lol 😂🤣

    • @Wisdom24-7
      @Wisdom24-7 3 года назад

      This is a bunch of BULLSHIT no humans evolved from no Ape if that is true why and the hell did the ape stop evolving into humans how did the first apple orange pears get to earth the fruit did not pop out the sky God created the seeds to grow the fruit u people are idiots God please help these idiots🙏🙏

    • @budd2nd
      @budd2nd 3 года назад +6

      @@Wisdom24-7
      Lol. 😂 Are you adding even more glorious sarcasm👍👍 🤣

  • @princesspoppet8889
    @princesspoppet8889 3 года назад +9

    "why is water wet?" "Because it's wet"

    • @veganlifting4145
      @veganlifting4145 3 года назад +3

      “How do you know the Bible is true?”
      “Because the Bible says it’s true!”

  • @XmasReaper_4414
    @XmasReaper_4414 2 года назад +2

    Caller: -has issues with science-
    Also caller: -brings up science corrections corrected by science-

  • @bradgaines
    @bradgaines 3 года назад +11

    Let's break down when Helen said "Jesus is knocking on the door of your heart." Jesus is inside my chest cavity? He's literally knocking with his hand? My heart has a door? Do I open the door for him? Will this kill me? What happens when he walks inside my heart? How big is Jesus?

  • @dallased25
    @dallased25 3 года назад +14

    She really called the movie "Expelled" a "documentary". That was NOT a documentary....it was a propaganda piece of garbage.

  • @Taylor-vz4ot
    @Taylor-vz4ot 3 года назад +9

    This woman was a great example of how my parents behaved and a major reason I no longer speak with them, as they allowed such drivel to be their basis for treating me as sub human once they realized I no longer shared their delusions.

  • @dshall27
    @dshall27 3 года назад +33

    Matts interogative questions are always so much more more insightful than most other hosts prepackaged responses.

    • @Magnusfication
      @Magnusfication 10 месяцев назад

      I agree, Dave detracted from this conversation.

  • @barbiedahl
    @barbiedahl 3 года назад +17

    Fundagelicals. Great mash-up term. I'll be using that one from now on.

  • @scottmattern482
    @scottmattern482 3 года назад +5

    Looking back over my intellectual development that lead me to understand all religion is superstion, I must give credit to Matt and The Atheist Experience. Thank you and its a delight to occasionally watch an episode after all these years. Your work is appreciated far more than you probably realize.

  • @Left-is-right-8192
    @Left-is-right-8192 3 года назад +41

    “These people are just projecting what they want to believe”
    “Why do you believe in Adam and Eve”
    “I have faith”
    🤪

    • @pcppbadminton
      @pcppbadminton 3 года назад

      She just projecting her projection.

    • @JayJay-two
      @JayJay-two 3 года назад

      I hear
      "Cuckoo Cuckoo"
      🤪

  • @SpaceLordof75
    @SpaceLordof75 3 года назад +43

    What about Lucy? She’s not alone. Look up “Ardi”, another similar find, which is older and more complete.

    • @TheDragon-v7d
      @TheDragon-v7d 3 года назад +9

      Not to mention dozens of other fossils

    • @ericwilliams1659
      @ericwilliams1659 3 года назад +6

      Yeah I didn't know there was any disagreement about Lucy besides her age and cause of death.

    • @hegyak
      @hegyak 3 года назад +11

      Even if Science disagrees or is disputed. Science is willing to say "OK. We made a mistake. Here's the correction."
      As was said "Religion has the answer. Then tries to find ways to justify it. Instead of looking for answers."

    • @TheDragon-v7d
      @TheDragon-v7d 3 года назад +6

      @@hegyak exactly religion asserts itself to be true without any evidence at all.

    • @joykeebler2890
      @joykeebler2890 3 года назад

      Humans have 46 chromosomes and apes have 48 chromosomes.

  • @AbleAnderson
    @AbleAnderson 3 года назад +6

    Helen came in with apologist cliff notes volume 1 and threw every last horrible argument and trope at the wall to see what would stick in a gish gallop for the ages

    • @jdevlin1910
      @jdevlin1910 8 месяцев назад

      But what about but what about but what about

  • @jimperry4108
    @jimperry4108 3 года назад +14

    one of my favorite clips of theirs. For the "best of" archives guys.

    • @budd2nd
      @budd2nd 3 года назад +2

      Yeah I think I’ll save it. I have a RUclips video entitled atheist arguments, I’ll put it there.

    • @jimperry4108
      @jimperry4108 3 года назад +1

      @@budd2nd I'll bet it's one of the best ones.

  • @NaughtyNimitz
    @NaughtyNimitz 3 года назад +17

    Helen is BONKERS! I hope she reads the comments and gets educated

  • @jokermaan1
    @jokermaan1 3 года назад +15

    I don't know which is stranger. Why, if they've watched even one other edition of the AE, these people come on with the same non-arguments, or why I'm fascinated enough to keep listening to them!

    • @francelaferriere6106
      @francelaferriere6106 2 года назад

      You would think that they would come up with better arguments, right?

    • @chrispbacon3042
      @chrispbacon3042 2 года назад

      Ever watch one of those car crash videos online and then watched it again to just how horrible it was. That is this show.

  • @JohnDoe-zy6tm
    @JohnDoe-zy6tm 3 года назад +15

    Australopithecus ( what Lucy was ) is not one single specimen. There are hundreds of them to examine... Lucy was no unique deformed example. She was a typical female Australopithecus.

  • @jakeherter
    @jakeherter 3 года назад +14

    The gotcha of "you would have given me a reasonable explanation if you had it," is as Rock solid as it seems, it's very simple and it's lethal.

  • @dickvarga6908
    @dickvarga6908 3 года назад +2

    "Lucy" is not the only example of her species. Several others which lived over East Africa over centuries have been found.

  • @briansehovski9854
    @briansehovski9854 3 года назад +23

    The dead silence after Dave expressed the Adam and Eve point was awesome.

  • @ChockHolocaust
    @ChockHolocaust 3 года назад +6

    Her entire argument comprises: 'but...but... muh magic sky wizard holy book....'

  • @jwmmitch
    @jwmmitch 2 года назад +3

    Hahaha "we are asking you to show that your beliefs are true and you are coming with absolutely nothing"
    And she didn't even realize it. That's the sad part

  • @nelsrinden510
    @nelsrinden510 3 года назад +9

    Helen is a shining example of the Dunning-Kruger Effect.

  • @sunzi42
    @sunzi42 3 года назад +24

    A perfect fundamentalist fanatic. Every religion wants these people!