The Museum it's one of the very, very few watches you can recognize from across a room. That's an achievement. That's why people want it. Here you go solved the mystery for you. You welcome ;)
@@kevinmorrice pretty sure it's not hard to tell time on that particular watch. I can understand you have some "special" moments trying to figure it out but hopefully telling time wont take too long for ya
Bought a 38mm Movado Museum watch 20 years ago when I didn’t know much about watches. I just knew my girlfriend at the time loved it. I bought it after getting promoted into management and I wore it proudly for many years. Many memories wearing this piece including my wedding. Been married 15 years and though I have objectively far better pieces in my collection today this Movado still has a place in my watch box. 😉
Movado has been selling a version of the Museum Watch since the 1940's. It is in fact part of their history and heritage. Movado was founded in 1881 but Museum Watch is a huge reason for their name recognition. Hell the Museum Watch design has been in production longer than the Rolex Submariner, so yeah, it's recognizable and appreciated by a lot of people.
VB3 sure everything your saying is true but back in the day the Movado watch was a revaluation no one has seen a watch like that before nowadays the museum is a crappy fashion watch
I get the whole “watch enthusiast” thing, but to most ppl MOVADO just has a nice simple but classy look to them. There’s style can’t be mistaken by any other company. Someone gave me one as a gift and since day one I was given compliments.
Well its a great looking watch... if you like it, buy it. Cartier also makes quartz watches; still beautiful. Don't let any watch snob shame you out of buying a watch that you really love.
Sorry man, but I like the Museum. It is an iconic design, perfect as a dresswatch. I also don't hate quartz movements. You sounded pretty much like a watch snob in this episode, and that isn't cool at all.
Females dont care about tool watches but they do love dress/fashion watches like Movados. My #1 complement getter with the ladies all day. It has a great unisex appeal. They are the king of the mall. Movado dont make watches, they make great fashion jewelry to grab the attention of the ladies. It says "I'm not here to impress dudes, I'm here to impress ladies".
YouYouYou!!! Man I can’t wear a quartz watch anymore. The only one I have now is a seiko flightmaster. I’m not some huge watch snob, I just don’t like movados anymore. My tastes have changed. But I don’t knock anyone else’s choice for a watch. Unless it’s a DW.
Agreed. Had a 800 series and I loved the bracelet and the watch actually looked nice. But that was before I became a watch nut lol. No more battery watches for me lol. Seriously sucks because I love the look. I would feel like an idiot to pay that much for quarts though
“Trash” is a bit harsh, but to each their own I suppose. They have an instantly identifiable design, and have built their company around that design. And it’s a design that continues to sell, decade, after decade, after decade. Dare I say, it’s timeless? To not have a Movado in one’s collection is a missed opportunity imo.
Love my Zenith era Movado, hand-wind mechanical; the Bauhaus influence is great design (and it was a gift for a special event). Will continue to wear it and enjoy it. And congratulations on 20k!
Interesting that simultaneously while saying they turned their back on their heritage you complain that they still use the famous museum dial watch, the most recognizable part of their heritage. The famous Movado “dot” is not a gem, it was designed to represent the sun at high noon. Why abandon their heritage as you’ve said indeed. This watch became and still is so iconic that it was selected to be part of the permanent collection of the Museum of Modern Art in New York City in 1960, the first watch that was ever g iven such distinction. It’s a beautiful watch, among many other beautiful and quality watches they make today.
Congrats on the 20 000. Totally deserved for the great vids. Well done Jory and am definitely looking forward to the awesomer new content. That will be awesome.
Remember, the purpose of watches for men is to express their inner Freudian male peacockiness....Movado presents a simple, elegant, but fairly affordable way to do that represents more taste and hight art than function.
It's Memorial Day. It's raining outside. All I've done all day is watch about 20-30 T3 videos ever since I woke up. And this one made me laugh out loud! I love this channel!
I got my first Movado last Christmas for about $150 (def not $400). Its clean and sleek look is really unique & versatile. For $150, I got a Swiss Made watch with sapphire crystal, I ain't gonna complain...
Funny enough, my wife (who is not a watch enthusiast), loves watching your videos with the asides you did in the last couple of videos. Keep up the good work!
Jory you're just awesome dude! You bring such energy and positivity through your videos. Loved that little cameo, skit at the intro. You were just short of a Capiche! or a Bada bing! thrown in there somewhere haha, but still quality footage man. I for one can never wait to see what you upload next. You review some amazing watches from all ends of the scale and spectrum from easy and affordable to high end/holy grail. Keep it up Jory, peace dude.
Buying a Movado is a status move for young men of style; it's an introduction brand for timepieces whose pop culture success is undeniable. the minimalist style; the diamond. I'm proud to still own my SE not just because it was endorsed by Pete Sampras but it represents what myself and others who've worked hard to afford it.
Funniest video I have seen in a long time. I was gifted a Movado 15 years ago. I keep it for sentimental value, would not purchase one now. Thanks for your effort and videos!
The irony is that time and history are related. You can buy a watch to keep time, or you can buy a watch to keep time and history. I'm in it for just the time.
Yep, some sales woman in a jewellery store in Barbados tried to tell me how great they were. Thank god i did not listen (...never heard of them before, is it an auto? Erm no it's Quartz). Good day madam. Seriously, congratulations on reaching 20k your awesome T3 😆
Ashraf no problem, i am buying the sapphire collection in all gold with gold mirror dial! No seconds hands means l don’t have the ticking going on. It’s so pricey, but blings more than any in that price range! I have aquaracer and pulling the trigger on a davosa two tone. Submariner homage. But the movado l can’t get out of my head, all that gold 😂💯♥️
I disagree. Movado is elegant to me. It doesn't just stick a whole bunch of gaudy ish on it like some brands. My favorite watches are Movado and Concorde. And I have never known a watch enthiusiast that doesn't respect Movado. What is the watches I should be wearing? A Rolex..?
I own 4 myself and one of them happens to be an Esperanza with the gold plated dial and gold plated bracelet. I'm still loving it after 20 years. The watch, however, is an automatic quartz movement. But who cares.
@@oceanblue5794 I have one Esperanza all gold plate, and one old Esperanza. The old one's gold plate has rubbed off in many places, and the band is not secure and will fall off if worn. It was my first Movado. All the other movados are in extremely good condition, or mint.
what about the 1881 automatic? no quartz movement. theres one thats a twotone with a black mother of pearl face and diamond markers, looked pretty sharp
Excellent Special Agent bit. Was that a new York or Jersey accent? Thank you for helping me avoid buy crappy watches. Congratulations on your one hundredth episode.
I'm surprised you're still married to her. Sounds like she needs a Real man in her life instead of feeding an immature teenager. She needs a divorce Asap...
I kind of dig the larger 44mm Museum model, there's just something about it that speaks to me, but I certainly won't be paying full price for one. I keep checking eBay and local buy and sell groups to see if I can't scratch my itch for one in the sub $120 range. I'd pay that for one, if only for a lark.
You have no clue about the Movado Museum. Its one of the few icons of the whole watch market. And its the only one with a realy simple and unluttered dail.
I have an automatic modern classic and I think it’s a beauty and has plenty of quality. Also the heritage series does have automatics, so they still make decent watches.
So you hate Movado because they use quartz? Sorry but that makes you sound like a snob. :( Quartz is here forever. I'm a car guy and I was sad when Toyota discontinued the Supra while further developing the Prius, but it's what the world needed and what customers wanted. And I didn't bash Toyota for it. If there was anything to blame it was the market/demand. Toyota makes a nice hybrid, just like Movado makes a nice quartz. Try a legit museum watch on your wrist and see if you don't like it. And if you just can't get over it being a quartz, then you better not be caught driving around in a hybrid either!
ugh my girlfriend loves Movado :( when i was in high school and college i was big into hip hop and the street life, hung out in pool halls, shady bars etc etc etc, and all the dirtbag wannabe drug dealing kingpin wannabes sported Movados, and thats still the kind of people i associate with Movado. except my girl, cause shes amazing!
I've seen one or two decent watches from Movado post-1983. I really loved my early-2000's era Kingmatic (3-hand 2824-2 with applied arabic indices and a subtle pattern on the dial), but as you said, they tend to just rehash the Museum watch in quartz with different cases and colors, which is a shame.
Hello TTT first of all, congrats on the 20k susbcribers! Now to the real deal, dont hate me but i saw a Movado Certa Andante triple calendar for less than 200dlls, as other option the Hamilton Martin 1940's and another Hamilton with a 987F thats pretty beat up but with a movement in good condition as a project.
Like it or not, the current generation of Movado owners are probably in their 50-60's and were subject to Movado's advertising. The commericials for the "world thinnest watch that is on display in the Smithsonian" were expertly shot and presented and really fit in with the minimalist movement in the 80's. I own a museum watch and still find it to be an appealing watch to wear to black tie affairs.
The Movado museum is an exercise in elegance, I do not own one. It is not a daily wear, it is a watch to be worn on occasions when proper attire is required. Perhaps the theater, the symphony, the opera, etc which is the reason I don't own one. I do attend those events but not often enough to justify a Movado museum. I do have a desk top one which I like very much.
I _love_ the minimalist look of the Museum dial...if I wore a tux on the regular, I'd definitely want one. Only problem? _Every_ consumer-grade jewelry store have them. They are no longer unique or interesting. But if style was the only thing I cared about...
It's so sad, they used to make some of the best watches back in 30s to 50s. They were arguably on the same level as Patek and even shared some of the same parts with the same manufacturers of cases. They used their own in house movements too. Now MOVADO is a complete embarrassment to what it once was. I say this as an avid admirer of their old watches.
The Museum it's one of the very, very few watches you can recognize from across a room. That's an achievement. That's why people want it. Here you go solved the mystery for you. You welcome ;)
you ever tried to tell the time on one
True like it or not
@@kevinmorrice pretty sure it's not hard to tell time on that particular watch. I can understand you have some "special" moments trying to figure it out but hopefully telling time wont take too long for ya
noxus158, he's not great at telling time unless it's a digital clock.
@@kevinmorrice If you own wear and then actually wear it consistently enough, you learn how to tell time on it just as quickly.
Bought a 38mm Movado Museum watch 20 years ago when I didn’t know much about watches. I just knew my girlfriend at the time loved it. I bought it after getting promoted into management and I wore it proudly for many years. Many memories wearing this piece including my wedding. Been married 15 years and though I have objectively far better pieces in my collection today this Movado still has a place in my watch box. 😉
You have good taste! I LOVE my Movado museum watch. It exudes class and sophistication.
Hell ya!
Movado has been selling a version of the Museum Watch since the 1940's. It is in fact part of their history and heritage. Movado was founded in 1881 but Museum Watch is a huge reason for their name recognition. Hell the Museum Watch design has been in production longer than the Rolex Submariner, so yeah, it's recognizable and appreciated by a lot of people.
VB3 He acknowledged that...didn't he?
VB3 sure everything your saying is true but back in the day the Movado watch was a revaluation no one has seen a watch like that before nowadays the museum is a crappy fashion watch
I get the whole “watch enthusiast” thing, but to most ppl MOVADO just has a nice simple but classy look to them. There’s style can’t be mistaken by any other company. Someone gave me one as a gift and since day one I was given compliments.
Sure it may look and feel nice and get lots of compliments but there's no denying it's a over priced cheap quartz watch
Just got one for 210.00 and am happy with it.dont care what the snobs say.its my choice😅
Fun fact: Kim Jong-Un is wearing a 500$ Movado
Probably the only reason to buy one: so you can dress up like him for Halloween.
That's all the Swiss would let him have
True story lol
Its 3K€ gold Classic
I remember when you had only one subscriber- your mom. Congratulations.
Well its a great looking watch... if you like it, buy it. Cartier also makes quartz watches; still beautiful. Don't let any watch snob shame you out of buying a watch that you really love.
Miles Ross +1
Sorry man, but I like the Museum. It is an iconic design, perfect as a dresswatch. I also don't hate quartz movements. You sounded pretty much like a watch snob in this episode, and that isn't cool at all.
$495 for a quartz 😂🤣😂
Totally agree he probably can't afford a movado lololol
@@matthewweber983 but he has more expensive watches though
@@matthewweber983 he has a Rubicon you know,not a watch but jeep
How do you even tell the time on that piece of shit
Females dont care about tool watches but they do love dress/fashion watches like Movados. My #1 complement getter with the ladies all day. It has a great unisex appeal. They are the king of the mall. Movado dont make watches, they make great fashion jewelry to grab the attention of the ladies. It says "I'm not here to impress dudes, I'm here to impress ladies".
YouYouYou!!! If you wanna buy jewellery
Buy a Cartier mate.
They make shitters
YouYouYou!!! Man I can’t wear a quartz watch anymore. The only one I have now is a seiko flightmaster. I’m not some huge watch snob, I just don’t like movados anymore. My tastes have changed. But I don’t knock anyone else’s choice for a watch. Unless it’s a DW.
YouYouYou!!! I would rather take a Frederique Constant Classics watch any day.
Agreed. Had a 800 series and I loved the bracelet and the watch actually looked nice. But that was before I became a watch nut lol. No more battery watches for me lol. Seriously sucks because I love the look. I would feel like an idiot to pay that much for quarts though
Sounds like Mark Walberg bashing movado! Lol
Exactly my thought lol
“Trash” is a bit harsh, but to each their own I suppose. They have an instantly identifiable design, and have built their company around that design. And it’s a design that continues to sell, decade, after decade, after decade. Dare I say, it’s timeless? To not have a Movado in one’s collection is a missed opportunity imo.
Movados can stay out of my collection. Nothing worthwhile from them since 1983 if I'm being charitable. Probably mid-60s if I'm being bluntly honest.
@@jakekaywell5972 Were you alive in 1983?
Love my Zenith era Movado, hand-wind mechanical; the Bauhaus influence is great design (and it was a gift for a special event). Will continue to wear it and enjoy it. And congratulations on 20k!
I own a 1960 14kt movado and love it
Interesting that simultaneously while saying they turned their back on their heritage you complain that they still use the famous museum dial watch, the most recognizable part of their heritage. The famous Movado “dot” is not a gem, it was designed to represent the sun at high noon. Why abandon their heritage as you’ve said indeed. This watch became and still is so iconic that it was selected to be part of the permanent collection of the Museum of Modern Art in New York City in 1960, the first watch that was ever g
iven such distinction. It’s a beautiful watch, among many other beautiful and quality watches they make today.
No, Jory No, you just broke my heart. Lol
I have a Movado museum and absolutely love it. It’s a gift from my bestie.
Great milestone at 20k. Loved the trailer. As long as you keep churning out such quality content, the channel will continue to grow. 2 Thumbs up man!!
I love how his 20k subs special is just him shitting on movado.
Congrats on the 20K! You are awesome!
Congrats on 20K! You deserve great success. Your videos have great information and you have acting chops! Keep up the good work.
Congrats on the 20 000.
Totally deserved for the great vids.
Well done Jory and am definitely looking forward to the awesomer new content.
That will be awesome.
Congrats on 20k T3! You deserve it. Be flying past 100k in no time.
T3, great video and background. Really do enjoy your channel. Keep it up!!
Remember, the purpose of watches for men is to express their inner Freudian male peacockiness....Movado presents a simple, elegant, but fairly affordable way to do that represents more taste and hight art than function.
I dig the new format! ^^v and congrats on 20k!
I can't believe it was only 6 months ago that T3 started and posted its first video. And now he's already at 20k subs. Keep up the amazing content!
Congrats on 20k subscribers. Love your content and reviews. You deserve it!
It's Memorial Day. It's raining outside. All I've done all day is watch about 20-30 T3 videos ever since I woke up. And this one made me laugh out loud! I love this channel!
I have three Movado watches and I love then
Congratz for the 20k!
This episode is dope! We want more ;)
Congrat on 20k subs! Interesting video style.
Great video Jory!! Well done, very fun. Congrats on your growing channel, keep up the great videos.
Can someone please explain how you set this watch when it has no indices?
Just set it 'on the hour'. But really, this isn't a watch you wear to keep perfect track of the exact time.
I got my first Movado last Christmas for about $150 (def not $400). Its clean and sleek look is really unique & versatile. For $150, I got a Swiss Made watch with sapphire crystal, I ain't gonna complain...
Great buy!
Funny enough, my wife (who is not a watch enthusiast), loves watching your videos with the asides you did in the last couple of videos. Keep up the good work!
Haters ganna hate movado makes some gorgeous watches nothing catches my eye like a movado
Understand now where the previous video was going. Kinda nice to get a two part segment. Congrats on 20,000 again!
Dude you are the man, great video!
Your opinion is more important than you think! Congrats on the 20k subs, they'll keep coming while you continue with your informative yet fun content.
Look forward to more dramatic reviews like that.Well done on the 20k subs,always very entertaining and informative.
Do a review on sarb033
Jory you're just awesome dude!
You bring such energy and positivity through your videos.
Loved that little cameo, skit at the intro. You were just short of a Capiche! or a Bada bing! thrown in there somewhere haha, but still quality footage man.
I for one can never wait to see what you upload next.
You review some amazing watches from all ends of the scale and spectrum from easy and affordable to high end/holy grail.
Keep it up Jory, peace dude.
Bro I'm not jory but if I was I probably really appreciated this comment
I AM Jory, and it’s comments like these that have kept me motivated almost 4 years in!! 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Congrats on 20k!!
I have a feeling....this isn't the last we'll hear of Movado......
this is my favorite video yet. Your right, 100%
Buying a Movado is a status move for young men of style; it's an introduction brand for timepieces whose pop culture success is undeniable. the minimalist style; the diamond. I'm proud to still own my SE not just because it was endorsed by Pete Sampras but it represents what myself and others who've worked hard to afford it.
101! And 20k! Congrats! Keep them coming!
For me "Movado" is a Dancehall Artist from Jamaica i think :D
Funniest video I have seen in a long time. I was gifted a Movado 15 years ago. I keep it for sentimental value, would not purchase one now. Thanks for your effort and videos!
The irony is that time and history are related. You can buy a watch to keep time, or you can buy a watch to keep time and history. I'm in it for just the time.
I do love the minimalism of movado. They are far better than the old ones
After watching your videos I bought a Seiko skx007. It was beyond my expectations! Just awesome
Well, Kim Jong Un is a fan, that should say it all lol
That's all the Swiss would let him have
True story lol
Hey T3. Love your videos. Keep em coming.. Best wishes from India :)
My movado museum I got from my grandpa says swiss quartz instead of swiss made like the ones I looked up, is there a difference? It's silver
Yep, some sales woman in a jewellery store in Barbados tried to tell me how great they were. Thank god i did not listen (...never heard of them before, is it an auto? Erm no it's Quartz). Good day madam.
Seriously, congratulations on reaching 20k your awesome T3 😆
congrats on your subscription goals! I'm sure you're gonna grow a lot more this year!
I love Movado watches, I have 6 of them.
Fricking Priceless! Congrats on 20.
They make watches for Coach. I hate fashion watches. Movado has always been a non-presence for me. I just find them incredibly boring.
I watched this right after buying a movado 😂, couldn't get it's look out of my head, I've always condemned it but couldn't get it out of my head
Ashraf no problem, i am buying the sapphire collection in all gold with gold mirror dial! No seconds hands means l don’t have the ticking going on. It’s so pricey, but blings more than any in that price range! I have aquaracer and pulling the trigger on a davosa two tone. Submariner homage. But the movado l can’t get out of my head, all that gold 😂💯♥️
I disagree. Movado is elegant to me. It doesn't just stick a whole bunch of gaudy ish on it like some brands. My favorite watches are Movado and Concorde. And I have never known a watch enthiusiast that doesn't respect Movado.
What is the watches I should be wearing? A Rolex..?
Love these kind of videos from you. Keep these coming.
Keep it up man. I love these vids!
So much better sound! Much easier on the ears. Keep up the good work. Have a great weekend
The Movado Esperanza is gorgeous!! They are well made watches even if they are not automatic. I own 4 MOVADOS.
I own 4 myself and one of them happens to be an Esperanza with the gold plated dial and gold plated bracelet. I'm still loving it after 20 years. The watch, however, is an automatic quartz movement. But who cares.
@@oceanblue5794 I have one Esperanza all gold plate, and one old Esperanza. The old one's gold plate has rubbed off in many places, and the band is not secure and will fall off if worn. It was my first Movado.
All the other movados are in extremely good condition, or mint.
They have automatic...I love mine
Love the Chanel, keep up the good work.
Fun mixed with good information
And no swearing .... fantastic
Congrats on the huge milestone!
what about the 1881 automatic? no quartz movement. theres one thats a twotone with a black mother of pearl face and diamond markers, looked pretty sharp
Congrat's on 20k! I'm still trying to hit the big two zero on my channel.
Great video! I actually had no idea Movado had such a rich history. Back when they were still alive I mean. :-p
Congrats on 20k
Great acting Jory :)
Thanks for the low down on Movado.
There is no need to change what you do...I love your honesty and quirkiness.
Excellent Special Agent bit. Was that a new York or Jersey accent? Thank you for helping me avoid buy crappy watches.
Congratulations on your one hundredth episode.
Movado is not a crappy watch lolol
What about the automatic movados?
Just got a Movado as a gift from my wife, I was so grateful and excited. Now that i watched this video, i hate her.
I'm surprised you're still married to her. Sounds like she needs a Real man in her life instead of feeding an immature teenager. She needs a divorce Asap...
It looks cool AF and tells time. That’s all I care about
I kind of dig the larger 44mm Museum model, there's just something about it that speaks to me, but I certainly won't be paying full price for one. I keep checking eBay and local buy and sell groups to see if I can't scratch my itch for one in the sub $120 range. I'd pay that for one, if only for a lark.
Great way to do reviews. Keep up the suspense and mystery
Hi T3. I have an idea for one of your next videos. Pick your top 5 discontinued Seiko watches.
Keep up the great work my friend.
You have no clue about the Movado Museum. Its one of the few icons of the whole watch market. And its the only one with a realy simple and unluttered dail.
I have an automatic modern classic and I think it’s a beauty and has plenty of quality. Also the heritage series does have automatics, so they still make decent watches.
So you hate Movado because they use quartz? Sorry but that makes you sound like a snob. :(
Quartz is here forever. I'm a car guy and I was sad when Toyota discontinued the Supra while further developing the Prius, but it's what the world needed and what customers wanted. And I didn't bash Toyota for it. If there was anything to blame it was the market/demand. Toyota makes a nice hybrid, just like Movado makes a nice quartz.
Try a legit museum watch on your wrist and see if you don't like it. And if you just can't get over it being a quartz, then you better not be caught driving around in a hybrid either!
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I have a movado Luno and get compliments on it all the time /shrug. To each there own.
Movado’s are so nice looking. Sexy classy watch. Their signature look is classic.
Wait thise oldies from movado are autos/hand winding?
I love the museum watch. Cool watch.
ugh my girlfriend loves Movado :( when i was in high school and college i was big into hip hop and the street life, hung out in pool halls, shady bars etc etc etc, and all the dirtbag wannabe drug dealing kingpin wannabes sported Movados, and thats still the kind of people i associate with Movado. except my girl, cause shes amazing!
Are movado swiss made??
Good on Jory! Enjoyed the bit and love the Sig p220 ? Single stack mag
Makes me think 220
I've seen one or two decent watches from Movado post-1983. I really loved my early-2000's era Kingmatic (3-hand 2824-2 with applied arabic indices and a subtle pattern on the dial), but as you said, they tend to just rehash the Museum watch in quartz with different cases and colors, which is a shame.
Hello TTT first of all, congrats on the 20k susbcribers!
Now to the real deal, dont hate me but i saw a Movado Certa Andante triple calendar for less than 200dlls, as other option the Hamilton Martin 1940's and another Hamilton with a 987F thats pretty beat up but with a movement in good condition as a project.
Like it or not, the current generation of Movado owners are probably in their 50-60's and were subject to Movado's advertising. The commericials for the "world thinnest watch that is on display in the Smithsonian" were expertly shot and presented and really fit in with the minimalist movement in the 80's. I own a museum watch and still find it to be an appealing watch to wear to black tie affairs.
The Movado museum is an exercise in elegance, I do not own one. It is not a daily wear, it is a watch to be worn on occasions when proper attire is required. Perhaps the theater, the symphony, the opera, etc which is the reason I don't own one. I do attend those events but not often enough to justify a Movado museum. I do have a desk top one which I like very much.
Ha 20k, congratulations Mister. Mazeltov.
Keep it up, love your videos
Also screw movado
almost 1 year ago....geeez .....the time teller.......flies
T3...you are the man ....keep up the great content
I _love_ the minimalist look of the Museum dial...if I wore a tux on the regular, I'd definitely want one. Only problem? _Every_ consumer-grade jewelry store have them. They are no longer unique or interesting. But if style was the only thing I cared about...
It's so sad, they used to make some of the best watches back in 30s to 50s. They were arguably on the same level as Patek and even shared some of the same parts with the same manufacturers of cases. They used their own in house movements too. Now MOVADO is a complete embarrassment to what it once was. I say this as an avid admirer of their old watches.