Have you considered the Hamilton Polka by Weird Al (The on he dropped on RUclips after the D+ release)? I think it would be fun to watch Casper’s head explode…. (Also, for a non Hamilton reaction could I suggest Come From Away. Apple TV has the pro shoot)
Another "fun" fact: Philip died at the age of 19. There are 19 songs between his birth (Dear Theodosia) and his death (Stay Alive reprise). LMM is a freaking genius.
The fact that they had him literally flirting with death and saying that later he would get intimately familiar with her is such a clever touch (I know it's the bullet but still he said he wanted to strip down to his socks with her, that's an interesting thing I've heard noted) edit: this got a lot more traction than I expected it to, so thank you to everyone who left a like on it, thank you all and have a great day!
@@secretyidentity2833 yeah sorry I was trying to find a polite way to put it, he did tell this shows literal representation of death that he wanted to strip down to his socks with her, if that's not intimately familiar, then I don't know what it is (and believe me I don't know what is, but that seems pretty damn close) and, in a manner of speaking he would later get intimately familiar with death (okay I'll see myself out now)
Dear Theodosia is extra sad, because both fathers outlive the children they were singing about. Burr outlived all of his children. Theodosia was lost at sea at only 29 years old. None of his other children lived to be adults.
I actually found that out from a Jeopardy clue. 😅 I heard enough info to think the lady lost at sea in question could be Theodosia, was able to guess Aaron Burr, and was right.
Now that we’ve seen Phillip’s fate, I wanted to point out some of the genius in Miranda’s lyricism. In the first song, there were four lines from characters declaring their relationships with Hamilton. Now, we can realize that three of the lines had double meanings. These lines were: “We fought with him.” Lafayette and Mulligan fought alongside him, while Jefferson and Madison… fought him. “Me? I died for him.” Laurens died fighting for his ideals, while Phillip died defending his honor. “Me? I loved him.” Eliza was his wife, Angelica and Peggy were his sisters-in-law, and Maria made love to him. (Notice the use of “Me” instead of “We.”) With this, we realize that each double-cast member is performing in their capacity as both characters that they play, and thus, EVERY major character (besides the King, who has no actual relationship with Hamilton) is present in the intro laying out the story. Oh, and George Eacker had little other impact on American history after the duel because he died of tuberculosis less than three years later.
@Tails If we mate talking about the musical than yes, if we’re talking about real history than not really as in the real duel after the ten count Philip and George both just stood there without shooting for about a minute (according to their seconds) and Philip raised his gun then Eaker shot him. Ask Eaker I kept got the illness after one night in the winter when he went out to help put out a house fire and got very sick. He frequently got ill afterwards and then passed away after it became tuberculosis.
Phillipa Soo mentions in an interview that one of the few times she was ever thrown off in the live performance was when they were doing a show for the high schoolers. When Phillip dies, the teenaged girls in the audience screamed before she could... 😏 The high schoolers were there as part of there program with the local schools in the NYC area. The kids would write songs, scenes, or raps about history and come to their theater to perform them for the cast, then the cast would treat them to a performance of Hamilton. So cool... 😊
Philip's death hit his younger sister the hardest of all his family. Angelica Hamilton was very close to Philip, and when he died, she had a complete psychological collapse that lasted for the rest of her life. She mentally reverted to childhood and always still believed Philip was still alive. When Eliza became too old to take care of her herself, Angelica went to live with her doctor until she died aged 72.
I might be misremembering but I’m pretty sure they had another son after Philip died and also named him Philip. And I’m sure that wouldn’t have helped at all
15:32 sad fact: ya notice how Philip mentioned forgetting what Eliza taught him? That’s in reference to the counting scene in “take a break”. He thought he miscounted.
Oh no, I never thought about it in that way TwT I only knew the musical theory behind it... After the number 7 Elisa takes the low/"grounded" notes, but Philip still goes higher while counting, like he wants to do something greater, something as or more impressive than his father. So he "forgot" that the family he has "would be enough", he forgot that he doesn't need to do something outstanding. Sorry, I really badly explained it, but Howard Ho made a really awesome video on it!
@@ladabeg nah I get what you mean, I think I’ve seen that. With Philip wanting to fly higher like his dad compared to his mom’s careful low tones, which ultimately screw over both the Hamilton men by flying too close to the sun (classic Icarus)
I'll be the color theory person -In the beginning of the musical, Hamilton and his friends are wearing brown as Hamilton is a very poor man trying to make a name for himself Burr is in purple, a very dark purple, but still purple. It's to represent his prestige, as the prodigy of this college but very subtly -Then they all change to revolutionary blue for the war, the opposite of Britain's Redcoats -The sisters are wearing very bright colors, because they can afford the expensive dyes. Angelica in an orange, because she's very fiery, and Eliza in a blue, because she's very calm and demure. Peggy is in yellow I think because she's a very bubbly person, historical -Then Hamilton changes to green. He is the Secretary of the Treasury, green like his money. But also green with envy, he wants the power and influence Jefferson has -Madison is in a powder blue jacket, but if you notice he has orange on the inside. Madison is always described as very sickly on the outside but he is very passionate on the inside -Mariah is in this very lustful red dress, clearly reinforcing her sex appeal is on full display, but it's red like blood as well. Like she is a wound inflicted on Alexander and his family -Jefferson wears a bombastic pinky purple coat. He is the most out there in terms of political belief and is openly showing it off. The purple, as I mentioned before, represents the prestige that Jefferson carries with him. He wrote the declaration of independence, he's a very important figure. Later, Jefferson changes into brown, because he's trying to mellow out to win the presidency -Burr also seems to be in a much darker coat in act two, representing how his thoughts and ideals are kind of darkening and becoming more intense -Philip only has a powder blue vest, to represent his mom but he covers it up with his coat to kind of represent his backing away from the ideals his mom taught him, but they're still there -Hamilton ends the show in all black, his green vest only making an appearance in the election of 1800 to represent that he's still the money man, to show his morning of his son and his own death Eliza ends in a white gown with blue undertone to represent how motherly, heavenly, and pure she becomes at the end of the musical
There's also white. Ensemble is in whites, Hamilton at the very beginning. I've read somewhere that this represents "ghosts" ot someone that is not really there. So Hamilton at the beginning, because he's "not part of" the american history yet, then he changes into the brown coat to signify that that's the beginning of him kind of "existing". I think Laurens is in white in his interlude etc
Lin-Manuel has said that the use of Eliza's words indicates that for a guy with so many words, Hamilton is so broken by Phillip's death has just left him speechless, and the only thing he can do is reflect Eliza's words back to her. And here I was knowing what's covered in these songs thinking I could get through them with all the pausing/deconstructions/conversations without crying. NOPE.
In Non-Stop, Alex does sing "Look around at how Lucky we are to be alive right now" in a dick-move to get Eliza to be ok with him running off with Washington to run the Treasury... 😑
The only words she sings in this song are, "It's quiet uptown." And in the tune of That Would Be Enough. And. the first unimaginable thing is losing a child. Because we have words for children who lose parents, and people who lose spouses. But not parents who lose children, it's so against the natural order of things.
Fun fact, before walkie talkies, stagehands would whistle to each other to signal changes on set. Actors weren't allowed to whistle because the stagehands could pull the levers at the wrong time and could kill them. Aka, Phillip whistling on stage was him also calling his death.
History facts (correct me if I'm wrong, also maybe spoilers): In history, I'm not sure if this actually happened, but george didn't shoot on 7. They waited, but when Phillip started to raise his gun, he panicked and shot him, george died a few years later due to his alcohol addiction, and he would apologize over and over for killing Phillip. Also, the gun wasn't Alexander's it was Eliza's fathers gun that was passed down as a wedding gift. And Alexander used it in his own duel against Burr. Eliza was wearing the all black dress as a show of mourning her either sister's death, which she had just come from the funeral or something. Angelica had to move in with hamilton and eliza, I think she kinda went crazy when she heard about Phillips' death. Correction it was Alexander's daughter named Angelica
From what i've heard, the whole thing about philip being shot on 7 came from eliza teaching him to count to 10 in order to calm himself down. While he was raising the gun, he apparently started counting to himself, and was at 7 when eacker shot him. (Take this with a grain of salt as well, i have no idea if it's actually true but it's sad to think about regardless :
We, musical fans, are kind of a psychotic bunch. "That was awful!" "YES, it is awful...(smiles like the cat that got the canary) and isn't that great???"
The reason Phillip says "I'm so sorry for forgetting what you taught me" is in reference to take a break where she is teaching him how to count. He thought he miscounted, but no George eaker just cant count. But this is just a theory.... A musical theory.
I don't know what Casper said but it looked like he was describing how he wanted to tear George Eacker apart slowly to pay for his crimes. Also fun fact when philip says "I'm so sorry for forgetting what you taught me" it's because Eliza taught him how to count and he thinks he's the one who messed up the counting in the duel, not George Eaker :D
I don’t know if anyone’s said this, but Hamilton’s line “you did everything just right” is so gut wrenching because it’s the same melody as Washington’s “I make every mistake” in History has it’s Eye on You. Washington made all the mistakes and still lived. Philip did every right and died. It’s so tragic!!!!
I’m actually glad it’s left out. Little extras, like the Gasp at the end of the play, or the Bullet getting done in between You’ll Be Back and Right Hand Man, keep the movie recording special.
I can agree the scream adds so much, but IMO it's one of the reasons to watch it rather than just listen to the soundtrack. I still remember the first time I got to watch it live the Laurens' death scene and Phillip's death scene were such an emotional punch that I did not see coming so I get why they left it out of the recordings
Not so fun fact the line "blow us all away" was not only in references to the expansion of their fathers but also to their deaths. Philp to the shot, and Theodosia to a storm at see.
In my opinion, the absolute most powerful line in the whole musical is, “Forgiveness. Can you imagine?” It truly is a grace to powerful to name, in the antique sense of the word. Eliza gives Alexander a gift that he can never repay and which he does not deserve, simply because she is that good of a person: forgiveness. Can you imagine?
There is an interview with Renee Elise Goldsberry that Mortius needs to see. She is talking about how in Satisfied, Angelica basically gives Alexander to her sister and from that point on becomes their 'observer' or something like that. It is so close to what Mortius says. I believe it is during an appearance on Live with Kelly Ripa and whomever she is hosting with at the time... if I can find the link I will post it in a reply.
Fun fact, Mr. Eaker didn’t shoot early, and Philip didn’t aim to the sky. Once the counting was done, Philip would not raise his gun, confusing Eaker. After a whole minute of standing there, they both raised their guns and Eaker shot Philip. Philip also fired but it was probably an accident due to a muscle spasm from being shot. Hamilton isn’t perfect at telling the story and I would recommend everyone watch a video called “the inaccuracies of Hamilton”
"It's Quiet Uptown" only really hit me when it got to the "forgiveness" part. It's just this sudden turn of what "the unimagibable" means in the song, from the greatest loss Hamilton had to face the greatest gift anyone could have given him at that time. The unimaginable grief and the unimaginable willingness of Eliza to give him a second chance. And like you said, the beginning just has you feeling empty after Phillips death, but the second Elizs takes Hamiltons hand it turns to a feeling of relief and gives room to grief and healing. Maybe relief isn't the right word, maybe it's just the realization that, even though horrible things happen to people that don't deserve it because life just isn't fair, that also means that people who don't deserve it can get a second chance. It's a hard feeling to describe, this song has a mix of grief, longing, hope and healing in it. Emotionally probably the best written song in the entire musical.
16:59 I don’t know why but saying “Rest in Peace, Philip Schuyler” just made it feel even more heartbreaking but also kind of sweet- probably it feels like it pays more homage to everything Eliza has been through and her pain in losing her son. I know it was probably just a slip of the tongue (and strictly speaking is wishing peace to his grandfather) but I don’t know it just kind of works somehow.
Philip Hamilton refused to raise his pistol to fire after he and Eacker had counted ten paces and faced each other, following his father's instructions to reserve his fire. Eacker, determined to fire second, did not shoot. After a minute, Eacker finally raised his pistol, and Hamilton did the same. Eacker shot and struck Philip above his right hip. The bullet went through his body and lodged in his left arm. In what may have been an involuntary spasm, Hamilton fired his pistol in the air. In a letter to Rufus King, Robert Troup wrote of Alexander Hamilton, "Never did I see a man so completely overwhelmed with grief as Hamilton had been." Nevertheless, he was said to be civil and professional in his later relationship with Eacker
As many likely have said, the real story of George Eaker and Philip Hamilton's duel is a bit different from what Hamilton shows. Hamilton, likely for the sake of the story, fudges a lot of details. For instance, Eaker didn't shoot Philip during the count. After the count, rather than raising his gun to shoot, he just sort of stood there confusing Eaker until he moved to raise his gun possibly to the surrendering gesture but he freaked out Eaker in the process and got shot. After Philip's death, its said that Hamilton was so wrecked that he couldn't even stand at his son's funeral, having to be raised up by his friends to even see his son off. Meanwhile, Philip's sister, Angelica (yes named for her aunt) had a mental breakdown that resulted in her spending the rest of her life in need of constant care. Philip was adored by *everyone* .
I get that way, too, and it's also the right song for me when I'm particularly angry with my partner, so that I can channel Eliza's forgiveness. Hope you can get the support you need.
Sad details in stay alive: Philip apologizes for forgetting what Eliza taught him (counting) because Eaker shot on 7 but Philip thought he miscounted. Also Philip stops counting in French at 7.
25:25 It's actually really interesting to me that for you this a song you don't cry so much at. Cause for me that's the song I cry the most at. Grief hits hard
One of my favorite fun facts about Hamilton is that Lin did a lot of the writing at the house Alexander and Eliza moved into after Philip’s death. Lin gave a really great interview about Hamilton for Sirius XM On Broadway. In the interview he talked a lot about the writing process.
found this on imdb... but didn't crosscheck. "Philip took his father's advice, and refused to raise his pistol to fire after he and Eacker had counted ten paces and faced each other. Eacker, following suit, did not shoot either. For the first minute, both men stood, doing nothing, both refusing to shoot. After a minute, Eacker finally raised his pistol, and Philip did the same. Eacker shot and struck Philip above his right hip. The bullet went through his body and lodged in his left arm. In what may have been an involuntary spasm, Philip also fired his pistol before he hit the ground, but this bullet did nothing."
Oh no, this is one of the strongest marriages in history, Eliza stayed with him after he publicized his affair, and continued to have his children, they totally moved on from the whole thing, with no visible break between them as far as we can tell(there were never any letters in the two that alluded to the affair or any resentment on her part, she remained his loving wife and as far as we know he remained faithful to her as well, knowing Hamilton if this ever happened again he probably would have publicized it again)
It's almost like the historical and cultural context at the time made it impossible for women to leave their husbands (even cheaters and abusers) and still have a dignified and happy life afterwards. No shit she stayed with him, Maria stayed with her husband for years too, but sure, try to romanticize the cruel reality women were subjected to in past.
@@secretyidentity2833 hey I wanted to avoid saying the thing, but if she actually hated him so bad she wouldn't have spoken so highly of him after he died, if she hated him she could have easily said so, but as far as we can tell she never had a negative word to say about him, I get it at the time wouldn't have allowed for a divorce but again she never showed a hint of resentment even after she could have spoken about her resentments(it's not really me romanticizing it, it's me stating the exact way that she felt, if anything she romanticized him after his death, she made it her life's work to do everything she could to portray him in a positive light, she hated the people he hated till the day she died, if she at all felt trapped in this relationship she would have spoken her mind the instant he died, and if not the instant he died it would have come out over the 50 plus years she was alive after him)
@@voidfloof I feel in no way qualified to comment on that perspective, because even the source material for this musical doesn't go with that perspective (he mentions in the opening of the book that she seemed like she had burned some letters, because she was self-deprecating, and that's literally all chernow has to say on the matter) so I won't dispute the possibility,, I will just leave it where it is, I didn't mean to make anyone mad when I made this, comment, I just felt confident that the relationship wasn't awful based on the fact that Eliza literally had 50 years as a separate person from Hamilton but she still never spoke a bad word about him, and tried to make sure his name was immortalized in the best way possible, so I'm trying to look at this in a positive light, obviously that's not for everyone but I I personally feel like these actions would indicate a decent marriage at the very least?
@@dragansnyder2786 yeah, cause her life would be so good if, after the death of one of the most important man in the creation of the US, she started "talking bad abt him" also, as a woman, who the hell was she gonna talk bad abt him TO? Who would listen or even care abt what she had to say, ppl barely cared when she was singing his praises non-stop for YEARS, to the point it has taken this play for ppl to even listen to her story (alexander being an immigrant from South America instead of white british europe also played a part in it) And yes, it is romanticizing, there are many women to this day who live in abusive and/or toxic relationships with cheating spouses and don't a say a damn word abt it to anyone and many more throughout history that lived their entire lives in suffuring silence bc no one would want to listen to them or care abt their situations. Not having RECORD of her feeling resentment or hatred towards her cheating husband does mean the feeling did not exist, and bc WE DO KNOW the cultural and historical reality that would lead to the lack of these records it IS romanticizing history to say "they had one of the strongest marriages in history" when their story and the lack of records of "bad fellings" is literally no different than a vast portion of women at the time, give me a fucking break, if that's what a strong marriage is "the appearence of dedication, stability and respect" lets honestly just abolish divorce alltogether and bring back in full force the culture of any woman without a husband is a disgrace, then we can all have long lasting strong marriages like theirs.
I love how when Philip is flirting with the girls THE BULLET TOUCHES HIM. Regarding the coat colours: I’m not aware of what it means, but costume design is very intentional, so I can’t imagine it doesn’t mean anything. Also the beige outfits the ensemble wears are referred to as “parchment”, so the colours worn over that base layer would be the ink, the writing put onto that blank parchment.
Howard Ho mentions in his video about this (if memory serves) that when they play piano together when Philip was a child, that after the count of seven he changes the melody Eliza gives him. Eliza ends on a “safe” note whilst Philip ends on an “unsecured” or more “adventurous” note. After the count of seven he gets shot, their lives part ways and he cannot follow her home. This is not word for word, but it is essentially the sentiment.
The “forgiveness” part gets me every time. I think it’s a tear jerker moment for most people because everybody has had something in their life where they’ve needed forgiveness from someone, or God, or needed to forgive someone.
For the record, the real life duel between Philip and Eacker, Eacker did not actually shoot before ten. (According to a quick google search, grain of salt as always.) Instead, Philip refused to raise his pistol, as did Eacker. They stood there facing each other for a full minute before both raised their pistols and Eacker won. I *think* Philip was maybe going to aim for the sky but he was shot before then and ended up firing his bullet anyways. Regardless he still didn’t hit Eacker so the outcome was the same.
_It's_Quiet_Uptown_ always hits me hard because I grew up having lost my older sister when I was quite young. Even when neither parent bears any guilt, it changes the whole family. Everything is both more precious and harder to go through without the child.
As someone who studied fashion design I feel ashamed that I just formed this theory watching you guys considering the colour theory of the costumes. But I just realized, Eliza starts in blue, Angelica is yellow, for the longest time Alexanders colour is green - the middle between blue and yellow. In act 2 when Alexander is pretty much on top, Elizas dress is green. And then everything falls apart and her dress is back to her colour blue - and so is Alexanders! Now there are a lot of ways to interpret that, and I already have several Interpretations in my head that are all plausible to me, but honestly I never even considered that until they talked about the colour theories in this video...
This is something I've read somewhere, but the line "there are sufferings too terrible to name" can refer to the fact that, while there's a name for people who lost their spouse (widow/widower) and people who lost their parents (orphan), there's no name for parents who lost their child, because the idea of outliving your children is something no loving parent wants to think about and hopes for
19:03 The first song: Daveed and Okieriete (Lafayette/ Jefferson and Mulligan/Madison ) says: "WE fought with him." Coz both roles Fought WITH him as they're comrades in arms And FOUGHT with him as they were on opposite political parties And Ramos (Lawrence/phillip) says, "me? I died for him" Coz he died as someone hamilton loves dearly for both roles Just blew my mind out of the water. I remembered the first time i made this connection, I was in a bus heading to work. I couldn't talk to anyone about it as hamilton was JUST starting to come out and no one understood what I was rambling about (i live in a 3rd world country. Musicals were considered not for the masses)
Casper: This song is breaking my heart so much I want to cry but my eyes aren't letting me. Mortius: This song, it's not even sad... well it is but that's not the emotion it's representing. It's representing literally the unimaginable.... this song gets me emotional, but I don't cry as much as some of the others. This is a song where you sit there and just go "...damn" Me (who hasn't listened to any "Hamilton" in well over a year): *tears slipping down my face* Huh? Oh, I'm fine. Totally true...
LOVING finding y'all through EPIC and showing Casper Hamilton--any plans for listening to some of the mix tape songs/versions of songs? I think Casper would FLIP over some of the vocals and the production of the songs
One of my favorite pieces of trivia for "Quiet Uptown" is that in the mixtape, Kelly Clarkson sings this song while she is within a week of giving birth. It gives that song a power that is mind blowing.
I absolutely lost it while watching this song at the theatre and when Angelica sings “ Forgiveness”I literally sobbed out loud and continued crying for the rest of the play.This is one of the best musicals of all time in many ways. It got me through Covid and the isolation we all experienced.Lin Manuel Miranda is genius.Thanks for your sensitive analysis.gents.
@@Blue_foods213 idk if there's a clip of mortius telling the joke on youtube but you can just search up "a man stays the night with monks and hears a strange sound" for the full thing
Technically, Philip broke one of the Ten Duel Commandments. "Look him in the eye, _aim no higher,_ summon all the courage you require..." The sky is higher than the eye.
Dude, it’s quiet uptown is my favourite Hamilton song, but I barely ever listen to it because it makes me feel such intense emotion and I can’t always handle that feeling
Not so fun fact: Angelica Hamilton, the second eldest child of Alexander and Eliza, who was just two years younger than Philip and only 17 when he died, suffered a catastrophic mental breakdown after she found out the news of her brother's death, one from which she never recovered. For the rest of her life, she lived in what was described as an "eternal childhood," unable to care for herself. She consistently spoke of Philip as if he were still alive, a belief she maintained until her passing, and often failed to recognize her family members, including her own parents and siblings. Her mother took care of her until Eliza became too old to do so, eventually being placed in the care of Dr. MacDonald of Flushing, Queens, where she would then remain until her death in 1857 at the age of 72.
heres some color theory: - jefferson wears a *purple* coat (associated with royalty because purple was a color hard to obtain back then) - hamilton wears a *green* coat (often associated with money and envy) and one of jefferson's line to hamilton was: *"smells like new money, dresses like fake royalty"*
Eliza’s scream gets me every time. No one has pointed this out, but Alexander covered Eliza’s hand with his when she started crying. Then she pulls her hand away from his, I think because she hasn’t forgiven him yet. ETA: this was the first time I really watched/listened to this part of Hamilton since losing someone dear to me (not a child) and it hit HARD.
These 3 songs wreck me every time, I actually have to skip Blow Us All Away and Stay Alive (reprise) most times - I have to be having a great mental health day to listen to them. What an incredible musical.
The reason the phillip eacker duel takes place in jersey is because out of all the former colonies, now states the dueling laws were the most lax. Meaning the punishment wasn't as severe because dueling was outlawed even though it was practiced openly.
Fun fact for Casper and Mortius: in Stay Alive (Reprise), Eliza arrives to the hospital wearing all black. And this is not a symbolic, it’s because Eliza just came back from Peggy's funeral.
I saw this somewhere, I don't know if it's true correct me in I'm wrong, but apparently at the end of 'It's Quiet Uptown' , Philipa looked especially grief-stricken because she had just lost a family member before that, so when Lin was talking to her and asking her something while they were walking off stage, he was asking her if she was alright
I haven’t watched the vid yet, but I’ve been thinking about it since take a break. I love the fact that aside from „blow us all away“ philip‘s other motif is the 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 from take a break which is also the duel motif. We could have known right from the beginning that our cinnamon roll was gon‘ die in a duel. Also, as a kid, he always messes up from 7 on, and he gets shot on the seven
10:15 lol you make him younger each time ...oh...oh my gosh I've never checked, unlike the letters with Angelica. 1-10, they turned. And _neither_ shot. Philip wouldn't raise his pistols so Eacker _did_ follow suit and not raise either. They just stood there for a minute, and then Eacker raised his pistol, so Philip raised his. Eacker shot Philip, Philip shot in the air as maybe a flinch/spasm His younger sister (an Angelica) lost her mind and Alexander could hardly stand at the burial 25:05 Apparently a friend wrote that he had never seen "a man so completely overwhelmed with grief"
I went and watched this live in London two days ago for my 21st. I haven’t cried about the play for a long time because I’ve watched it so much but when the lady next to me sobbed and my mum cried I did too. Also, anyone from the UK reading this, definitely go to the Victoria Palace Theatre to see this (Mayflower Southampton next year) it’s worth it!! ❤
Something that the youtuber Knoxx helpt me notice. Philip has a theme with sevens. He messes up the seventh note when he is learning piano. He is shot on the seven count of the duel, and he dies while at the seven when recounting the tone scale with his mother at his death bed, he dies at at the seven count.
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Have you considered the Hamilton Polka by Weird Al
(The on he dropped on RUclips after the D+ release)?
I think it would be fun to watch Casper’s head explode….
(Also, for a non Hamilton reaction could I suggest Come From Away. Apple TV has the pro shoot)
My name is Philip
I am in heaven
Because George Eaker
Can't count past seven
NOOOOOOOOO
THATS VILE😭
VILLAINOUS COMMENT
I laughed… AND NOW I FEEK BAD… 😢
I hate that I laughed
Another "fun" fact: Philip died at the age of 19. There are 19 songs between his birth (Dear Theodosia) and his death (Stay Alive reprise). LMM is a freaking genius.
I'm pretty sure it's the same for Hamilton himself. He dies at age 47, there are 47 songs. (Or 48, idk if it's counting Lauren's Interlude)
@@Axt.Artist Lauren's Interlude does not count as a song due to not being present in the Official Cast Recording.
His mind was older.
@@Axt.Artist Actually there’s 46 not counting Lauren’s interlude. But Hamilton died at 47, so I think Lauren’s interlude counts as a song
Philip literally FLIRTING WITH DEATH is such a genius detail.
I didn't notice that before!!!
The fact that they had him literally flirting with death and saying that later he would get intimately familiar with her is such a clever touch (I know it's the bullet but still he said he wanted to strip down to his socks with her, that's an interesting thing I've heard noted) edit: this got a lot more traction than I expected it to, so thank you to everyone who left a like on it, thank you all and have a great day!
And she touches him! He was doomed from that moment 😢
intimately familiar is a crazy way to put it
@@secretyidentity2833 yeah sorry I was trying to find a polite way to put it, he did tell this shows literal representation of death that he wanted to strip down to his socks with her, if that's not intimately familiar, then I don't know what it is (and believe me I don't know what is, but that seems pretty damn close) and, in a manner of speaking he would later get intimately familiar with death (okay I'll see myself out now)
Dear Theodosia is extra sad, because both fathers outlive the children they were singing about. Burr outlived all of his children. Theodosia was lost at sea at only 29 years old. None of his other children lived to be adults.
Lost at sea?? Why was she at sea??
They were also both blown away, Theodosia at sea and Phillip by the bullet
@@themoonlit-wolf3773she was going to see burr 🥲
She was on a ship to New York 😢
I actually found that out from a Jeopardy clue. 😅 I heard enough info to think the lady lost at sea in question could be Theodosia, was able to guess Aaron Burr, and was right.
Now that we’ve seen Phillip’s fate, I wanted to point out some of the genius in Miranda’s lyricism. In the first song, there were four lines from characters declaring their relationships with Hamilton. Now, we can realize that three of the lines had double meanings. These lines were:
“We fought with him.” Lafayette and Mulligan fought alongside him, while Jefferson and Madison… fought him.
“Me? I died for him.” Laurens died fighting for his ideals, while Phillip died defending his honor.
“Me? I loved him.” Eliza was his wife, Angelica and Peggy were his sisters-in-law, and Maria made love to him. (Notice the use of “Me” instead of “We.”)
With this, we realize that each double-cast member is performing in their capacity as both characters that they play, and thus, EVERY major character (besides the King, who has no actual relationship with Hamilton) is present in the intro laying out the story.
Oh, and George Eacker had little other impact on American history after the duel because he died of tuberculosis less than three years later.
And that's what's called "karma", ladies and gentlemen. 😏
@Tails If we mate talking about the musical than yes, if we’re talking about real history than not really as in the real duel after the ten count Philip and George both just stood there without shooting for about a minute (according to their seconds) and Philip raised his gun then Eaker shot him.
Ask Eaker I kept got the illness after one night in the winter when he went out to help put out a house fire and got very sick. He frequently got ill afterwards and then passed away after it became tuberculosis.
*Eaker got an illness after
God the way Caspar turned into this tiny small terrified distraught looking thing after Eliza screams 🥺😭
Phillipa Soo mentions in an interview that one of the few times she was ever thrown off in the live performance was when they were doing a show for the high schoolers. When Phillip dies, the teenaged girls in the audience screamed before she could... 😏
The high schoolers were there as part of there program with the local schools in the NYC area. The kids would write songs, scenes, or raps about history and come to their theater to perform them for the cast, then the cast would treat them to a performance of Hamilton. So cool... 😊
I don’t blame him, I knew what was coming and I still teared up just at the sound of that gut wrenching scream
Philip's death hit his younger sister the hardest of all his family. Angelica Hamilton was very close to Philip, and when he died, she had a complete psychological collapse that lasted for the rest of her life. She mentally reverted to childhood and always still believed Philip was still alive. When Eliza became too old to take care of her herself, Angelica went to live with her doctor until she died aged 72.
Also, Philip was Philip Hamilton. Philip Schuyler was his grandfather, Eliza's father.
I might be misremembering but I’m pretty sure they had another son after Philip died and also named him Philip. And I’m sure that wouldn’t have helped at all
31:27 “I know there’s no replacing what we’ve lost”
Names their son Phillip II
Tbf that's just something people did back then. Also, Philip is a common name and the name of Eliza's father.
15:32 sad fact: ya notice how Philip mentioned forgetting what Eliza taught him? That’s in reference to the counting scene in “take a break”. He thought he miscounted.
😭😭
Oh no, I never thought about it in that way TwT
I only knew the musical theory behind it...
After the number 7 Elisa takes the low/"grounded" notes, but Philip still goes higher while counting, like he wants to do something greater, something as or more impressive than his father. So he "forgot" that the family he has "would be enough", he forgot that he doesn't need to do something outstanding.
Sorry, I really badly explained it, but Howard Ho made a really awesome video on it!
@@ladabeg nah I get what you mean, I think I’ve seen that. With Philip wanting to fly higher like his dad compared to his mom’s careful low tones, which ultimately screw over both the Hamilton men by flying too close to the sun (classic Icarus)
Oh my gosh, he does break off from her counting at seven, doesn't he?! 😢
Fun fact!: When Philip and Eliza are counting, Philip’s heartbeat stops when Eliza reaches 7 and Philip 3, which makes them count to 10 together!
I'll be the color theory person
-In the beginning of the musical, Hamilton and his friends are wearing brown as Hamilton is a very poor man trying to make a name for himself
Burr is in purple, a very dark purple, but still purple. It's to represent his prestige, as the prodigy of this college but very subtly
-Then they all change to revolutionary blue for the war, the opposite of Britain's Redcoats
-The sisters are wearing very bright colors, because they can afford the expensive dyes. Angelica in an orange, because she's very fiery, and Eliza in a blue, because she's very calm and demure. Peggy is in yellow I think because she's a very bubbly person, historical
-Then Hamilton changes to green. He is the Secretary of the Treasury, green like his money. But also green with envy, he wants the power and influence Jefferson has
-Madison is in a powder blue jacket, but if you notice he has orange on the inside. Madison is always described as very sickly on the outside but he is very passionate on the inside
-Mariah is in this very lustful red dress, clearly reinforcing her sex appeal is on full display, but it's red like blood as well. Like she is a wound inflicted on Alexander and his family
-Jefferson wears a bombastic pinky purple coat. He is the most out there in terms of political belief and is openly showing it off. The purple, as I mentioned before, represents the prestige that Jefferson carries with him. He wrote the declaration of independence, he's a very important figure. Later, Jefferson changes into brown, because he's trying to mellow out to win the presidency
-Burr also seems to be in a much darker coat in act two, representing how his thoughts and ideals are kind of darkening and becoming more intense
-Philip only has a powder blue vest, to represent his mom but he covers it up with his coat to kind of represent his backing away from the ideals his mom taught him, but they're still there
-Hamilton ends the show in all black, his green vest only making an appearance in the election of 1800 to represent that he's still the money man, to show his morning of his son and his own death
Eliza ends in a white gown with blue undertone to represent how motherly, heavenly, and pure she becomes at the end of the musical
This was very interesting. Thanks for taking the time to write it.
😍 well explained
There's also white. Ensemble is in whites, Hamilton at the very beginning. I've read somewhere that this represents "ghosts" ot someone that is not really there. So Hamilton at the beginning, because he's "not part of" the american history yet, then he changes into the brown coat to signify that that's the beginning of him kind of "existing". I think Laurens is in white in his interlude etc
Lin-Manuel has said that the use of Eliza's words indicates that for a guy with so many words, Hamilton is so broken by Phillip's death has just left him speechless, and the only thing he can do is reflect Eliza's words back to her. And here I was knowing what's covered in these songs thinking I could get through them with all the pausing/deconstructions/conversations without crying. NOPE.
In Non-Stop, Alex does sing "Look around at how Lucky we are to be alive right now" in a dick-move to get Eliza to be ok with him running off with Washington to run the Treasury... 😑
And he was absolutely crushed by Philip’s death. I read somewhere he needed support to stand up at the funeral because he was so upset.
the "1-2-3-4-5-6-7-!" followed then Mortius deadpan stare at the camera
The only words she sings in this song are, "It's quiet uptown." And in the tune of That Would Be Enough. And. the first unimaginable thing is losing a child. Because we have words for children who lose parents, and people who lose spouses. But not parents who lose children, it's so against the natural order of things.
It didn’t use to be, half of children didn’t reach 5 back then
Fun fact, before walkie talkies, stagehands would whistle to each other to signal changes on set. Actors weren't allowed to whistle because the stagehands could pull the levers at the wrong time and could kill them. Aka, Phillip whistling on stage was him also calling his death.
The "Forgiveness" line always gets me damn 😭
Every single time
History facts (correct me if I'm wrong, also maybe spoilers):
In history, I'm not sure if this actually happened, but george didn't shoot on 7. They waited, but when Phillip started to raise his gun, he panicked and shot him, george died a few years later due to his alcohol addiction, and he would apologize over and over for killing Phillip.
Also, the gun wasn't Alexander's it was Eliza's fathers gun that was passed down as a wedding gift. And Alexander used it in his own duel against Burr.
Eliza was wearing the all black dress as a show of mourning her either sister's death, which she had just come from the funeral or something.
Angelica had to move in with hamilton and eliza, I think she kinda went crazy when she heard about Phillips' death. Correction it was Alexander's daughter named Angelica
I have seen theories that George had a spasm and accidentally shot him, but regardless it’s awful.
Just a note - it wasn't Angelica, it was Hamilton's daughter (who was named Angelica) that had a mental breakdown after her brother was killed
From what i've heard, the whole thing about philip being shot on 7 came from eliza teaching him to count to 10 in order to calm himself down. While he was raising the gun, he apparently started counting to himself, and was at 7 when eacker shot him.
(Take this with a grain of salt as well, i have no idea if it's actually true but it's sad to think about regardless :
Her sister's death
We, musical fans, are kind of a psychotic bunch.
"That was awful!"
"YES, it is awful...(smiles like the cat that got the canary) and isn't that great???"
That scream gets me every time. It's so raw and real. Phillipa Sou is truly an amazing actor as well as singer.
The reason Phillip says "I'm so sorry for forgetting what you taught me" is in reference to take a break where she is teaching him how to count. He thought he miscounted, but no George eaker just cant count.
But this is just a theory.... A musical theory.
I don't know what Casper said but it looked like he was describing how he wanted to tear George Eacker apart slowly to pay for his crimes.
Also fun fact when philip says "I'm so sorry for forgetting what you taught me" it's because Eliza taught him how to count and he thinks he's the one who messed up the counting in the duel, not George Eaker :D
The little smile at the end is diabolical
He always struggled to get past 7 when Eliza taught Phillip French in Take A Break, and then he dies counting to 7 ….
Fun fact: Eliza was pregnant when Phillip died
get the word “fun” out of there rn LMAO
How dare u
@@Phasmania 💀
I don’t know if anyone’s said this, but Hamilton’s line “you did everything just right” is so gut wrenching because it’s the same melody as Washington’s “I make every mistake” in History has it’s Eye on You. Washington made all the mistakes and still lived. Philip did every right and died. It’s so tragic!!!!
my brother passed in 2006 and its quiet uptown never fails to make my whole family sob
The recorded version not having the scream in Stay Alive, definitely lessens the impact of the song.
No, it's still impactful. Trust me, it's still got a lot of impact.
I’m actually glad it’s left out.
Little extras, like the Gasp at the end of the play, or the Bullet getting done in between You’ll Be Back and Right Hand Man, keep the movie recording special.
@@TailsFan There are varying degrees of impact…. Yes…. It’s still impactful.
@@StoryMing maybe outside of the context of the visuals…. Maybe it is better not to have it. I still miss it when listening to the audio
I can agree the scream adds so much, but IMO it's one of the reasons to watch it rather than just listen to the soundtrack. I still remember the first time I got to watch it live the Laurens' death scene and Phillip's death scene were such an emotional punch that I did not see coming so I get why they left it out of the recordings
Not so fun fact the line "blow us all away" was not only in references to the expansion of their fathers but also to their deaths. Philp to the shot, and Theodosia to a storm at see.
In my opinion, the absolute most powerful line in the whole musical is, “Forgiveness. Can you imagine?” It truly is a grace to powerful to name, in the antique sense of the word. Eliza gives Alexander a gift that he can never repay and which he does not deserve, simply because she is that good of a person: forgiveness.
Can you imagine?
It’s Quiet Uptown…”she takes his hand, it’s quiet uptown….forgiveness…”. Gets crazy tears from me every time
There is an interview with Renee Elise Goldsberry that Mortius needs to see. She is talking about how in Satisfied, Angelica basically gives Alexander to her sister and from that point on becomes their 'observer' or something like that. It is so close to what Mortius says. I believe it is during an appearance on Live with Kelly Ripa and whomever she is hosting with at the time... if I can find the link I will post it in a reply.
Prophet Casper has spoken. He’s dying before Mortius. The only question is: nat 1 or 20
Fun fact, Mr. Eaker didn’t shoot early, and Philip didn’t aim to the sky. Once the counting was done, Philip would not raise his gun, confusing Eaker. After a whole minute of standing there, they both raised their guns and Eaker shot Philip. Philip also fired but it was probably an accident due to a muscle spasm from being shot. Hamilton isn’t perfect at telling the story and I would recommend everyone watch a video called “the inaccuracies of Hamilton”
Sorry to ruin that for anyone, just wanted to say the truth
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@@braxtontaylor5575you didn't ruin it, everyone here knows that some minor details get changed to improve the story a bit
@@voidfloof true, but it’s good to know whats false and what’s true when watching any historical adaptation
He did predict it, but man.
It must still hurt so much-
Casper: "what was his name again?"
Mortious: "George Eacker"
Casper: *new enemy unlocked*
"It's Quiet Uptown" only really hit me when it got to the "forgiveness" part. It's just this sudden turn of what "the unimagibable" means in the song, from the greatest loss Hamilton had to face the greatest gift anyone could have given him at that time. The unimaginable grief and the unimaginable willingness of Eliza to give him a second chance. And like you said, the beginning just has you feeling empty after Phillips death, but the second Elizs takes Hamiltons hand it turns to a feeling of relief and gives room to grief and healing. Maybe relief isn't the right word, maybe it's just the realization that, even though horrible things happen to people that don't deserve it because life just isn't fair, that also means that people who don't deserve it can get a second chance. It's a hard feeling to describe, this song has a mix of grief, longing, hope and healing in it. Emotionally probably the best written song in the entire musical.
16:59 I don’t know why but saying “Rest in Peace, Philip Schuyler” just made it feel even more heartbreaking but also kind of sweet- probably it feels like it pays more homage to everything Eliza has been through and her pain in losing her son. I know it was probably just a slip of the tongue (and strictly speaking is wishing peace to his grandfather) but I don’t know it just kind of works somehow.
Philip Hamilton refused to raise his pistol to fire after he and Eacker had counted ten paces and faced each other, following his father's instructions to reserve his fire. Eacker, determined to fire second, did not shoot. After a minute, Eacker finally raised his pistol, and Hamilton did the same. Eacker shot and struck Philip above his right hip. The bullet went through his body and lodged in his left arm. In what may have been an involuntary spasm, Hamilton fired his pistol in the air.
In a letter to Rufus King, Robert Troup wrote of Alexander Hamilton, "Never did I see a man so completely overwhelmed with grief as Hamilton had been." Nevertheless, he was said to be civil and professional in his later relationship with Eacker
As many likely have said, the real story of George Eaker and Philip Hamilton's duel is a bit different from what Hamilton shows. Hamilton, likely for the sake of the story, fudges a lot of details. For instance, Eaker didn't shoot Philip during the count. After the count, rather than raising his gun to shoot, he just sort of stood there confusing Eaker until he moved to raise his gun possibly to the surrendering gesture but he freaked out Eaker in the process and got shot.
After Philip's death, its said that Hamilton was so wrecked that he couldn't even stand at his son's funeral, having to be raised up by his friends to even see his son off. Meanwhile, Philip's sister, Angelica (yes named for her aunt) had a mental breakdown that resulted in her spending the rest of her life in need of constant care. Philip was adored by *everyone* .
Fun fact the wail at the end of stay alive (reprise) isn’t in the studio recording it’s only in the play
eliza’s scream brings me to tears EVERY GODDAMN TIME
as someone who's going through their "easier to just swim down" period, "It's Quiet Uptown" destroys me.
keep going. it gets better
I get that way, too, and it's also the right song for me when I'm particularly angry with my partner, so that I can channel Eliza's forgiveness.
Hope you can get the support you need.
Sad details in stay alive: Philip apologizes for forgetting what Eliza taught him (counting) because Eaker shot on 7 but Philip thought he miscounted. Also Philip stops counting in French at 7.
I lost my mom some weeks ago.. and quiet up town is just perfect to describe grief
I love thinking of It's Quiet Uptown in arms with The Underworld because it shows the perspective of loss from both parent and child.
25:25 It's actually really interesting to me that for you this a song you don't cry so much at. Cause for me that's the song I cry the most at. Grief hits hard
Sorry about this Casper but...:
Philip has gone down the drain in the end
the poor actor who has to die twice
Exactly-
My mom doesn't like musicals, but i made her watch Hamilton and she cried at this part.
It's the scream.... I don't know how many times I've seen this scene but the scream makes me sob every single time.
did he know that the bullet won an oscar?
Maybe they'll do that one next... 🤔
One of my favorite fun facts about Hamilton is that Lin did a lot of the writing at the house Alexander and Eliza moved into after Philip’s death. Lin gave a really great interview about Hamilton for Sirius XM On Broadway. In the interview he talked a lot about the writing process.
"Forgiveness" breaks me every time.
found this on imdb... but didn't crosscheck.
"Philip took his father's advice, and refused to raise his pistol to fire after he and Eacker had counted ten paces and faced each other. Eacker, following suit, did not shoot either. For the first minute, both men stood, doing nothing, both refusing to shoot. After a minute, Eacker finally raised his pistol, and Philip did the same. Eacker shot and struck Philip above his right hip. The bullet went through his body and lodged in his left arm. In what may have been an involuntary spasm, Philip also fired his pistol before he hit the ground, but this bullet did nothing."
Oh no, this is one of the strongest marriages in history, Eliza stayed with him after he publicized his affair, and continued to have his children, they totally moved on from the whole thing, with no visible break between them as far as we can tell(there were never any letters in the two that alluded to the affair or any resentment on her part, she remained his loving wife and as far as we know he remained faithful to her as well, knowing Hamilton if this ever happened again he probably would have publicized it again)
It's almost like the historical and cultural context at the time made it impossible for women to leave their husbands (even cheaters and abusers) and still have a dignified and happy life afterwards. No shit she stayed with him, Maria stayed with her husband for years too, but sure, try to romanticize the cruel reality women were subjected to in past.
@@secretyidentity2833 hey I wanted to avoid saying the thing, but if she actually hated him so bad she wouldn't have spoken so highly of him after he died, if she hated him she could have easily said so, but as far as we can tell she never had a negative word to say about him, I get it at the time wouldn't have allowed for a divorce but again she never showed a hint of resentment even after she could have spoken about her resentments(it's not really me romanticizing it, it's me stating the exact way that she felt, if anything she romanticized him after his death, she made it her life's work to do everything she could to portray him in a positive light, she hated the people he hated till the day she died, if she at all felt trapped in this relationship she would have spoken her mind the instant he died, and if not the instant he died it would have come out over the 50 plus years she was alive after him)
Can't use the "lack of letters referencing the affair" as evidence considering she might have just destroyed those letters
@@voidfloof I feel in no way qualified to comment on that perspective, because even the source material for this musical doesn't go with that perspective (he mentions in the opening of the book that she seemed like she had burned some letters, because she was self-deprecating, and that's literally all chernow has to say on the matter) so I won't dispute the possibility,, I will just leave it where it is, I didn't mean to make anyone mad when I made this, comment, I just felt confident that the relationship wasn't awful based on the fact that Eliza literally had 50 years as a separate person from Hamilton but she still never spoke a bad word about him, and tried to make sure his name was immortalized in the best way possible, so I'm trying to look at this in a positive light, obviously that's not for everyone but I I personally feel like these actions would indicate a decent marriage at the very least?
@@dragansnyder2786 yeah, cause her life would be so good if, after the death of one of the most important man in the creation of the US, she started "talking bad abt him"
also, as a woman, who the hell was she gonna talk bad abt him TO? Who would listen or even care abt what she had to say, ppl barely cared when she was singing his praises non-stop for YEARS, to the point it has taken this play for ppl to even listen to her story (alexander being an immigrant from South America instead of white british europe also played a part in it)
And yes, it is romanticizing, there are many women to this day who live in abusive and/or toxic relationships with cheating spouses and don't a say a damn word abt it to anyone and many more throughout history that lived their entire lives in suffuring silence bc no one would want to listen to them or care abt their situations. Not having RECORD of her feeling resentment or hatred towards her cheating husband does mean the feeling did not exist, and bc WE DO KNOW the cultural and historical reality that would lead to the lack of these records it IS romanticizing history to say "they had one of the strongest marriages in history" when their story and the lack of records of "bad fellings" is literally no different than a vast portion of women at the time, give me a fucking break, if that's what a strong marriage is "the appearence of dedication, stability and respect" lets honestly just abolish divorce alltogether and bring back in full force the culture of any woman without a husband is a disgrace, then we can all have long lasting strong marriages like theirs.
I love how when Philip is flirting with the girls THE BULLET TOUCHES HIM.
Regarding the coat colours: I’m not aware of what it means, but costume design is very intentional, so I can’t imagine it doesn’t mean anything. Also the beige outfits the ensemble wears are referred to as “parchment”, so the colours worn over that base layer would be the ink, the writing put onto that blank parchment.
Howard Ho mentions in his video about this (if memory serves) that when they play piano together when Philip was a child, that after the count of seven he changes the melody Eliza gives him. Eliza ends on a “safe” note whilst Philip ends on an “unsecured” or more “adventurous” note. After the count of seven he gets shot, their lives part ways and he cannot follow her home. This is not word for word, but it is essentially the sentiment.
Eliza's scream gets me EVERY! TIME!
The “forgiveness” part gets me every time. I think it’s a tear jerker moment for most people because everybody has had something in their life where they’ve needed forgiveness from someone, or God, or needed to forgive someone.
Eliza has also lost Peggy. She had died a few months prior to this. Which is why they are dressed in all black, (mourning clothes)
For the record, the real life duel between Philip and Eacker, Eacker did not actually shoot before ten. (According to a quick google search, grain of salt as always.)
Instead, Philip refused to raise his pistol, as did Eacker. They stood there facing each other for a full minute before both raised their pistols and Eacker won. I *think* Philip was maybe going to aim for the sky but he was shot before then and ended up firing his bullet anyways. Regardless he still didn’t hit Eacker so the outcome was the same.
I can't bear Quiet Uptown, especially the line "We push away what we can never understand..."
My dark sense of humor is a menace. 25:22 "Dude, I just feel defeated." My immediate response: "Phillip does, too."
_It's_Quiet_Uptown_ always hits me hard because I grew up having lost my older sister when I was quite young. Even when neither parent bears any guilt, it changes the whole family. Everything is both more precious and harder to go through without the child.
I love watching your guy’s reactions! Petition here to have Casper and Mortius watch the musical Come From Away though!!!:
I would love to see that.
As someone who studied fashion design I feel ashamed that I just formed this theory watching you guys considering the colour theory of the costumes. But I just realized, Eliza starts in blue, Angelica is yellow, for the longest time Alexanders colour is green - the middle between blue and yellow. In act 2 when Alexander is pretty much on top, Elizas dress is green. And then everything falls apart and her dress is back to her colour blue - and so is Alexanders! Now there are a lot of ways to interpret that, and I already have several Interpretations in my head that are all plausible to me, but honestly I never even considered that until they talked about the colour theories in this video...
I love that James Reynolds is Phillip Schuyler and the doctor tending to Phillip Hamilton's wound. 🤣
This is something I've read somewhere, but the line "there are sufferings too terrible to name" can refer to the fact that, while there's a name for people who lost their spouse (widow/widower) and people who lost their parents (orphan), there's no name for parents who lost their child, because the idea of outliving your children is something no loving parent wants to think about and hopes for
19:03
The first song:
Daveed and Okieriete (Lafayette/ Jefferson and Mulligan/Madison ) says: "WE fought with him."
Coz both roles Fought WITH him as they're comrades in arms
And FOUGHT with him as they were on opposite political parties
And Ramos (Lawrence/phillip) says, "me? I died for him"
Coz he died as someone hamilton loves dearly for both roles
Just blew my mind out of the water.
I remembered the first time i made this connection, I was in a bus heading to work. I couldn't talk to anyone about it as hamilton was JUST starting to come out and no one understood what I was rambling about (i live in a 3rd world country. Musicals were considered not for the masses)
Casper: This song is breaking my heart so much I want to cry but my eyes aren't letting me.
Mortius: This song, it's not even sad... well it is but that's not the emotion it's representing. It's representing literally the unimaginable.... this song gets me emotional, but I don't cry as much as some of the others. This is a song where you sit there and just go "...damn"
Me (who hasn't listened to any "Hamilton" in well over a year): *tears slipping down my face* Huh? Oh, I'm fine. Totally true...
LOVING finding y'all through EPIC and showing Casper Hamilton--any plans for listening to some of the mix tape songs/versions of songs? I think Casper would FLIP over some of the vocals and the production of the songs
One of my favorite pieces of trivia for "Quiet Uptown" is that in the mixtape, Kelly Clarkson sings this song while she is within a week of giving birth. It gives that song a power that is mind blowing.
I absolutely lost it while watching this song at the theatre and when Angelica sings “ Forgiveness”I literally sobbed out loud and continued crying for the rest of the play.This is one of the best musicals of all time in many ways. It got me through Covid and the isolation we all experienced.Lin Manuel Miranda is genius.Thanks for your sensitive analysis.gents.
Finally, I heard the joke from the previous video
What is it???😭
@@Blue_foods213 idk if there's a clip of mortius telling the joke on youtube but you can just search up "a man stays the night with monks and hears a strange sound" for the full thing
Technically, Philip broke one of the Ten Duel Commandments. "Look him in the eye, _aim no higher,_ summon all the courage you require..." The sky is higher than the eye.
Dude, it’s quiet uptown is my favourite Hamilton song, but I barely ever listen to it because it makes me feel such intense emotion and I can’t always handle that feeling
Not so fun fact: Angelica Hamilton, the second eldest child of Alexander and Eliza, who was just two years younger than Philip and only 17 when he died, suffered a catastrophic mental breakdown after she found out the news of her brother's death, one from which she never recovered. For the rest of her life, she lived in what was described as an "eternal childhood," unable to care for herself. She consistently spoke of Philip as if he were still alive, a belief she maintained until her passing, and often failed to recognize her family members, including her own parents and siblings. Her mother took care of her until Eliza became too old to do so, eventually being placed in the care of Dr. MacDonald of Flushing, Queens, where she would then remain until her death in 1857 at the age of 72.
Casper's eyebrows when he's sad are like a heartbroken puppy.
"Who did this? Alexander, did you know?" Not only did he know, he provided the gun.
“The bringer of depression” little did he know that it wasn’t over 😂
heres some color theory:
- jefferson wears a *purple* coat (associated with royalty because purple was a color hard to obtain back then)
- hamilton wears a *green* coat (often associated with money and envy)
and one of jefferson's line to hamilton was:
*"smells like new money, dresses like fake royalty"*
Eliza’s scream gets me every time. No one has pointed this out, but Alexander covered Eliza’s hand with his when she started crying. Then she pulls her hand away from his, I think because she hasn’t forgiven him yet.
ETA: this was the first time I really watched/listened to this part of Hamilton since losing someone dear to me (not a child) and it hit HARD.
These 3 songs wreck me every time, I actually have to skip Blow Us All Away and Stay Alive (reprise) most times - I have to be having a great mental health day to listen to them. What an incredible musical.
The reason the phillip eacker duel takes place in jersey is because out of all the former colonies, now states the dueling laws were the most lax. Meaning the punishment wasn't as severe because dueling was outlawed even though it was practiced openly.
Fun fact for Casper and Mortius: in Stay Alive (Reprise), Eliza arrives to the hospital wearing all black. And this is not a symbolic, it’s because Eliza just came back from Peggy's funeral.
The green clothes were meant to just represent money as he built the money system, the dark blue/black was just to show that he was sad/grieving
I saw this somewhere, I don't know if it's true correct me in I'm wrong, but apparently at the end of 'It's Quiet Uptown' , Philipa looked especially grief-stricken because she had just lost a family member before that, so when Lin was talking to her and asking her something while they were walking off stage, he was asking her if she was alright
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I didn’t think that was THIS recording, but that somewhere there’s a bootleg from another performance?
As someone who heard the album before seeing the show, that scream rips your soul. I was not expecting it then it broke my heart.
I don't know how y'all made it through without crying. Unimaginable makes me break down every time. 😭😭😭
I haven’t watched the vid yet, but I’ve been thinking about it since take a break. I love the fact that aside from „blow us all away“ philip‘s other motif is the 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 from take a break which is also the duel motif. We could have known right from the beginning that our cinnamon roll was gon‘ die in a duel. Also, as a kid, he always messes up from 7 on, and he gets shot on the seven
10:15 lol you make him younger each time
...oh...oh my gosh I've never checked, unlike the letters with Angelica.
1-10, they turned. And _neither_ shot. Philip wouldn't raise his pistols so Eacker _did_ follow suit and not raise either.
They just stood there for a minute, and then Eacker raised his pistol, so Philip raised his. Eacker shot Philip, Philip shot in the air as maybe a flinch/spasm
His younger sister (an Angelica) lost her mind and Alexander could hardly stand at the burial
25:05 Apparently a friend wrote that he had never seen "a man so completely overwhelmed with grief"
I went and watched this live in London two days ago for my 21st. I haven’t cried about the play for a long time because I’ve watched it so much but when the lady next to me sobbed and my mum cried I did too. Also, anyone from the UK reading this, definitely go to the Victoria Palace Theatre to see this (Mayflower Southampton next year) it’s worth it!! ❤
Quiet Uptown is definitely the song that makes me sob the most.
Something that the youtuber Knoxx helpt me notice. Philip has a theme with sevens. He messes up the seventh note when he is learning piano. He is shot on the seven count of the duel, and he dies while at the seven when recounting the tone scale with his mother at his death bed, he dies at at the seven count.
Casper's reaction, ah my heart
The colors of the jackets are significant.
I’m so excited for this!
Hamilton "Oh thank Gods! Angelica thank you for.."
Angelica putting on her Arron Burr hat. "I'm not HERE FOR YOU!"
I love seeing casper crying because he felt what i felt everytime
Every time I think "I've watched this enough, I'll get through it without crying." Then Phillipa screams and I'm undone.
The name of the show Eacker was watching is _The West Indian._ Alexander was from the West Indies.