Are we also gonna get a reaction to 10 things 1 thing? It’s the original version of the world was wide enough and has a bunch of differences from the final version since we get to see Alexander’s pov while he gets ready for the dual.
The fact that they had him literally flirting with death and saying that later he would get intimately familiar with her is such a clever touch (I know it's the bullet but still he said he wanted to strip down to his socks with her, that's an interesting thing I've heard noted)
@@secretyidentity2833 yeah sorry I was trying to find a polite way to put it, he did tell this shows literal representation of death that he wanted to strip down to his socks with her, if that's not intimately familiar, then I don't know what it is (and believe me I don't know what is, but that seems pretty damn close) and, in a manner of speaking he would later get intimately familiar with death (okay I'll see myself out now)
The only constant in this world is that whenever someone reacts to stay alive reprise almost every single Hamilton fan will say “not so fun fact, Eliza was wearing black because she was coming back from Peggy’s funerals”
Now that we’ve seen Phillip’s fate, I wanted to point out some of the genius in Miranda’s lyricism. In the first song, there were four lines from characters declaring their relationships with Hamilton. Now, we can realize that three of the lines had double meanings. These lines were: “We fought with him.” Lafayette and Mulligan fought alongside him, while Jefferson and Madison… fought him. “Me? I died for him.” Laurens died fighting for his ideals, while Phillip died defending his honor. “Me? I loved him.” Eliza was his wife, Angelica and Peggy were his sisters-in-law, and Maria made love to him. (Notice the use of “Me” instead of “We.”) With this, we realize that each double-cast member is performing in their capacity as both characters that they play, and thus, EVERY major character (besides the King, who has no actual relationship with Hamilton) is present in the intro laying out the story. Oh, and George Eacker had little other impact on American history after the duel because he died of tuberculosis less than three years later.
@Tails If we mate talking about the musical than yes, if we’re talking about real history than not really as in the real duel after the ten count Philip and George both just stood there without shooting for about a minute (according to their seconds) and Philip raised his gun then Eaker shot him. Ask Eaker I kept got the illness after one night in the winter when he went out to help put out a house fire and got very sick. He frequently got ill afterwards and then passed away after it became tuberculosis.
Dear Theodosia is extra sad, because both fathers outlive the children they were singing about. Burr outlived all of his children. Theodosia was lost at sea at only 29 years old. None of his other children lived to be adults.
History facts (correct me if I'm wrong, also maybe spoilers): In history, I'm not sure if this actually happened, but george didn't shoot on 7. They waited, but when Phillip started to raise his gun, he panicked and shot him, george died a few years later due to his alcohol addiction, and he would apologize over and over for killing Phillip. Also, the gun wasn't Alexander's it was Eliza's fathers gun that was passed down as a wedding gift. And Alexander used it in his own duel against Burr. Eliza was wearing the all black dress as a show of mourning her either sister or father's death, which she had just come from the funeral or something. Angelica had to move in with hamilton and eliza, I think she kinda went crazy when she heard about Phillips' death. Correction it was Alexander's daughter named Angelica
From what i've heard, the whole thing about philip being shot on 7 came from eliza teaching him to count to 10 in order to calm himself down. While he was raising the gun, he apparently started counting to himself, and was at 7 when eacker shot him. (Take this with a grain of salt as well, i have no idea if it's actually true but it's sad to think about regardless :
We, musical fans, are kind of a psychotic bunch. "That was awful!" "YES, it is awful...(smiles like the cat that got the canary) and isn't that great???"
Another "fun" fact: Philip died at the age of 19. There are 19 songs between his birth (Dear Theodosia) and his death (Stay Alive reprise). LMM is a freaking genius.
15:32 sad fact: ya notice how Philip mentioned forgetting what Eliza taught him? That’s in reference to the counting scene in “take a break”. He thought he miscounted.
Fun fact, Mr. Eaker didn’t shoot early, and Philip didn’t aim to the sky. Once the counting was done, Philip would not raise his gun, confusing Eaker. After a whole minute of standing there, they both raised their guns and Eaker shot Philip. Philip also fired but it was probably an accident due to a muscle spasm from being shot. Hamilton isn’t perfect at telling the story and I would recommend everyone watch a video called “the inaccuracies of Hamilton”
I’m actually glad it’s left out. Little extras, like the [redacted] at the end of the play, or the Bullet getting done in between You’ll Be Back and Right Hand Man, keep the movie recording special.
I can agree the scream adds so much, but IMO it's one of the reasons to watch it rather than just listen to the soundtrack. I still remember the first time I got to watch it live the Laurens' death scene and Phillip's death scene were such an emotional punch that I did not see coming so I get why they left it out of the recordings
The only words she sings in this song are, "It's quiet uptown." And in the tune of That Would Be Enough. And. the first unimaginable thing is losing a child. Because we have words for children who lose parents, and people who lose spouses. But not parents who lose children, it's so against the natural order of things.
I'll be the color theory person -In the beginning of the musical, Hamilton and his friends are wearing brown as Hamilton is a very poor man trying to make a name for himself Burr is in purple, a very dark purple, but still purple. It's to represent his prestige, as the prodigy of this college but very subtly -Then they all change to revolutionary blue for the war, the opposite of Britain's Redcoats -The sisters are wearing very bright colors, because they can afford the expensive dyes. Angelica in an orange, because she's very fiery, and Eliza in a blue, because she's very calm and demure. Peggy is in yellow I think because she's a very bubbly person, historical -Then Hamilton changes to green. He is the Secretary of the Treasury, green like his money. But also green with envy, he wants the power and influence Jefferson has -Madison is in a powder blue jacket, but if you notice he has orange on the inside. Madison is always described as very sickly on the outside but he is very passionate on the inside -Mariah is in this very lustful red dress, clearly reinforcing her sex appeal is on full display, but it's red like blood as well. Like she is a wound inflicted on Alexander and his family -Jefferson wears a bombastic pinky purple coat. He is the most out there in terms of political belief and is openly showing it off. The purple, as I mentioned before, represents the prestige that Jefferson carries with him. He wrote the declaration of independence, he's a very important figure. Later, Jefferson changes into brown, because he's trying to mellow out to win the presidency -Burr also seems to be in a much darker coat in act two, representing how his thoughts and ideals are kind of darkening and becoming more intense -Philip only has a powder blue vest, to represent his mom but he covers it up with his coat to kind of represent his backing away from the ideals his mom taught him, but they're still there -Hamilton ends the show in all black, his green vest only making an appearance in the election of 1800 to represent that he's still the money man, to show his morning of his son and his own death Eliza ends in a white gown with blue undertone to represent how motherly, heavenly, and pure she becomes at the end of the musical
The reason Phillip says "I'm so sorry for forgetting what you taught me" is in reference to take a break where she is teaching him how to count. He thought he miscounted, but no George eaker just cant count. But this is just a theory.... A musical theory.
Not so fun fact the line "blow us all away" was not only in references to the expansion of their fathers but also to their deaths. Philp to the shot, and Theodosia to a storm at see.
@@Blue_foods213 idk if there's a clip of mortius telling the joke on youtube but you can just search up "a man stays the night with monks and hears a strange sound" for the full thing
Phillipa Soo mentions in an interview that one of the few times she was ever thrown off in the live performance was when they were doing a show for the high schoolers. When Phillip dies, the teenaged girls in the audience screamed before she could... 😏 The high schoolers were there as part of there program with the local schools in the NYC area. The kids would write songs, scenes, or raps about history and come to their theater to perform them for the cast, then the cast would treat them to a performance of Hamilton. So cool... 😊
Philip's death hit his younger sister the hardest of all his family. Angelica Hamilton was very close to Philip, and when he died, she had a complete psychological collapse that lasted for the rest of her life. She mentally reverted to childhood and always still believed Philip was still alive. When Eliza became too old to take care of her herself, Angelica went to live with her doctor until she died aged 72.
I don't know what Casper said but it looked like he was describing how he wanted to tear George Eacker apart slowly to pay for his crimes. Also fun fact when philip says "I'm so sorry for forgetting what you taught me" it's because Eliza taught him how to count and he thinks he's the one who messed up the counting in the duel, not George Eaker :D
Lin-Manuel has said that the use of Eliza's words indicates that for a guy with so many words, Hamilton is so broken by Phillip's death has just left him speechless, and the only thing he can do is reflect Eliza's words back to her. And here I was knowing what's covered in these songs thinking I could get through them with all the pausing/deconstructions/conversations without crying. NOPE.
In Non-Stop, Alex does sing "Look around at how Lucky we are to be alive right now" in a dick-move to get Eliza to be ok with him running off with Washington to run the Treasury... 😑
Oh no, this is one of the strongest marriages in history, Eliza stayed with him after he publicized his affair, and continued to have his children, they totally moved on from the whole thing, with no visible break between them as far as we can tell(there were never any letters in the two that alluded to the affair or any resentment on her part, she remained his loving wife and as far as we know he remained faithful to her as well, knowing Hamilton if this ever happened again he probably would have publicized it again)
It's almost like the historical and cultural context at the time made it impossible for women to leave their husbands (even cheaters and abusers) and still have a dignified and happy life afterwards. No shit she stayed with him, Maria stayed with her husband for years too, but sure, try to romanticize the cruel reality women were subjected to in past.
@@secretyidentity2833 hey I wanted to avoid saying the thing, but if she actually hated him so bad she wouldn't have spoken so highly of him after he died, if she hated him she could have easily said so, but as far as we can tell she never had a negative word to say about him, I get it at the time wouldn't have allowed for a divorce but again she never showed a hint of resentment even after she could have spoken about her resentments(it's not really me romanticizing it, it's me stating the exact way that she felt, if anything she romanticized him after his death, she made it her life's work to do everything she could to portray him in a positive light, she hated the people he hated till the day she died, if she at all felt trapped in this relationship she would have spoken her mind the instant he died, and if not the instant he died it would have come out over the 50 plus years she was alive after him)
@@voidfloof I feel in no way qualified to comment on that perspective, because even the source material for this musical doesn't go with that perspective (he mentions in the opening of the book that she seemed like she had burned some letters, because she was self-deprecating, and that's literally all chernow has to say on the matter) so I won't dispute the possibility,, I will just leave it where it is, I didn't mean to make anyone mad when I made this, comment, I just felt confident that the relationship wasn't awful based on the fact that Eliza literally had 50 years as a separate person from Hamilton but she still never spoke a bad word about him, and tried to make sure his name was immortalized in the best way possible, so I'm trying to look at this in a positive light, obviously that's not for everyone but I I personally feel like these actions would indicate a decent marriage at the very least?
@@dragansnyder2786 yeah, cause her life would be so good if, after the death of one of the most important man in the creation of the US, she started "talking bad abt him" also, as a woman, who the hell was she gonna talk bad abt him TO? Who would listen or even care abt what she had to say, ppl barely cared when she was singing his praises non-stop for YEARS, to the point it has taken this play for ppl to even listen to her story (alexander being an immigrant from South America instead of white british europe also played a part in it) And yes, it is romanticizing, there are many women to this day who live in abusive and/or toxic relationships with cheating spouses and don't a say a damn word abt it to anyone and many more throughout history that lived their entire lives in suffuring silence bc no one would want to listen to them or care abt their situations. Not having RECORD of her feeling resentment or hatred towards her cheating husband does mean the feeling did not exist, and bc WE DO KNOW the cultural and historical reality that would lead to the lack of these records it IS romanticizing history to say "they had one of the strongest marriages in history" when their story and the lack of records of "bad fellings" is literally no different than a vast portion of women at the time, give me a fucking break, if that's what a strong marriage is "the appearence of dedication, stability and respect" lets honestly just abolish divorce alltogether and bring back in full force the culture of any woman without a husband is a disgrace, then we can all have long lasting strong marriages like theirs.
There is an interview with Renee Elise Goldsberry that Mortius needs to see. She is talking about how in Satisfied, Angelica basically gives Alexander to her sister and from that point on becomes their 'observer' or something like that. It is so close to what Mortius says. I believe it is during an appearance on Live with Kelly Ripa and whomever she is hosting with at the time... if I can find the link I will post it in a reply.
OK PLEASE WHOEVER MEDITATES WHETHER CASPER OR MORTIUS SEES WHAT COMMENTS. IF YOU CAN LET ONLY MORTIUS SEE THIS COMMENT CUZ IK HES SEEN HAMILTON 23:21 YES ANGELICA TELLS ELIZA’S STORY BUT THEY ARE DOING THIS TOGETHER BECAUSE OF ELIZA AND ANGELICA TELLING THE STORY OF HAMILTON! PLEASE REFER TO “WHO LIVES WHO DIES WHO TELLS YOUR STORY”(just before when Eliza says Angelica is buried near Hamilton)
Live commentary while I procrastinate 😊✌️: 12:58 does anyone know how to lip read? 16:24 galactibunbun1711 has a animatic with my Favorite stay alive (reprise) Eliza's scream. I get chills Every Single Time 24:30 I know your suffering Mortius but your face was very red and I was legitimately afraid you would pop something
found this on imdb... but didn't crosscheck. "Philip took his father's advice, and refused to raise his pistol to fire after he and Eacker had counted ten paces and faced each other. Eacker, following suit, did not shoot either. For the first minute, both men stood, doing nothing, both refusing to shoot. After a minute, Eacker finally raised his pistol, and Philip did the same. Eacker shot and struck Philip above his right hip. The bullet went through his body and lodged in his left arm. In what may have been an involuntary spasm, Philip also fired his pistol before he hit the ground, but this bullet did nothing."
As many likely have said, the real story of George Eaker and Philip Hamilton's duel is a bit different from what Hamilton shows. Hamilton, likely for the sake of the story, fudges a lot of details. For instance, Eaker didn't shoot Philip during the count. After the count, rather than raising his gun to shoot, he just sort of stood there confusing Eaker until he moved to raise his gun possibly to the surrendering gesture but he freaked out Eaker in the process and got shot. After Philip's death, its said that Hamilton was so wrecked that he couldn't even stand at his son's funeral, having to be raised up by his friends to even see his son off. Meanwhile, Philip's sister, Angelica (yes named for her aunt) had a mental breakdown that resulted in her spending the rest of her life in need of constant care. Philip was adored by *everyone* .
For the record, the real life duel between Philip and Eacker, Eacker did not actually shoot before ten. (According to a quick google search, grain of salt as always.) Instead, Philip refused to raise his pistol, as did Eacker. They stood there facing each other for a full minute before both raised their pistols and Eacker won. I *think* Philip was maybe going to aim for the sky but he was shot before then and ended up firing his bullet anyways. Regardless he still didn’t hit Eacker so the outcome was the same.
Sad details in stay alive: Philip apologizes for forgetting what Eliza taught him (counting) because Eaker shot on 7 but Philip thought he miscounted. Also Philip stops counting in French at 7.
I love how when Philip is flirting with the girls THE BULLET TOUCHES HIM. Regarding the coat colours: I’m not aware of what it means, but costume design is very intentional, so I can’t imagine it doesn’t mean anything. Also the beige outfits the ensemble wears are referred to as “parchment”, so the colours worn over that base layer would be the ink, the writing put onto that blank parchment.
16:59 I don’t know why but saying “Rest in Peace, Philip Schuyler” just made it feel even more heartbreaking but also kind of sweet- probably it feels like it pays more homage to everything Eliza has been through and her pain in losing her son. I know it was probably just a slip of the tongue (and strictly speaking is wishing peace to his grandfather) but I don’t know it just kind of works somehow.
I saw this somewhere, I don't know if it's true correct me in I'm wrong, but apparently at the end of 'It's Quiet Uptown' , Philipa looked especially grief-stricken because she had just lost a family member before that, so when Lin was talking to her and asking her something while they were walking off stage, he was asking her if she was alright
Hamilton changing costumes doesn't really have a meaning, HOWEVER! I want to point out how the show starts with Hamilton in white, the color of being dead. The show begins and ends with Hamilton in WHITE.
As a patron, yeah I saw the long ass joke you did to Casper. You fooled me too lol. Although, did you make up that monk story? Cuz I feel like I've heard it before
"It's Quiet Uptown" only really hit me when it got to the "forgiveness" part. It's just this sudden turn of what "the unimagibable" means in the song, from the greatest loss Hamilton had to face the greatest gift anyone could have given him at that time. The unimaginable grief and the unimaginable willingness of Eliza to give him a second chance. And like you said, the beginning just has you feeling empty after Phillips death, but the second Elizs takes Hamiltons hand it turns to a feeling of relief and gives room to grief and healing. Maybe relief isn't the right word, maybe it's just the realization that, even though horrible things happen to people that don't deserve it because life just isn't fair, that also means that people who don't deserve it can get a second chance. It's a hard feeling to describe, this song has a mix of grief, longing, hope and healing in it. Emotionally probably the best written song in the entire musical.
These 3 songs wreck me every time, I actually have to skip Blow Us All Away and Stay Alive (reprise) most times - I have to be having a great mental health day to listen to them. What an incredible musical.
25:25 It's actually really interesting to me that for you this a song you don't cry so much at. Cause for me that's the song I cry the most at. Grief hits hard
I don’t know if anyone’s said this, but Hamilton’s line “you did everything just right” is so gut wrenching because it’s the same melody as Washington’s “I make every mistake” I History has it’s Eye on You. Washington made all the mistakes and still lived. Philip did every right and died. It’s so tragic!!!!
Others have said about Eacker not shooting on 7 so I won't repeat the whole story, I'll focus on another detail in that song. You know how I said in the comments a while ago that I knew for certain that Peggy was still alive? The reason I know is because of Eliza's black dress in Stay Alive (reprise): I've been told that she was still wearing black for Peggy, who died within the year, when Philip got shot. (I know everybody and their bullet wrote about this already but I promised I would talk about this back in the comments to the other video and so I did.) BTW, another thing I left in half to avoid spoilers was that pistols and microphones are from the same case, and the music of Cabinet Battles is a remix of the dueling countdown / French counting song. The show draws a lot of parallels between verbal and physical duels. That said, seeing Mortius melt down during the first part of It's Quiet Uptown feels so personal. Hamilton, by the way, is still in green (the color of money, of success) but the dress is made in a tissue that looks very dark under certain lights, which is used in his darkest moments. Again, someone else commented on the color theory behind the dresses so I won't repeat that but also notice how Hamilton changes coat on stage in act 1 (I think during Alexander Hamilton and during Guns and Ships). The amount of details in this show is amazing. The part about Hamilton not turning other people's words agains them, anyway? It happens a lot. From "Talk less, smile more" to all the times he uses "look at how lucky we are to be alive right now" to justify his being busy... it's not until act 2 when his downfall starts and people (I think Jefferson) start using his own sentences against him (because he's a smarter opponent than the ones Hamilton has faced until now). And now let me unpause and hear that "she takes his hand" part again. ç____ç It's quiet Uptown might not be a sad song, but it never fails to move me. 33:17, btw, has Mortius and Lin sighing at the same time.
Thing about duel is - Philip was pointing the gun in the sky, and this could work (at least in the musical) if he doesn't do this just a little bit to early. Eacker shot on seven not because he some crazy as psycho and asshole who likes killing young boys, but because Philip couldn't count to ten correctly and started acting way ahead, even though his mother teach him in one of the song (how can you missed this when in reprise this is brought up is crazy to me) lol. And because of that Eacker, young, hot-blooded and not even that older then Philip, just reacted like this out of fear being shot, so whole thing about him not having honor is liiitle bit exaggerated. Also i like how whole thing is a big prelude and foreshadowing for future songs ;)
Not so fun fact: Angelica Hamilton, the second eldest child of Alexander and Eliza, who was just two years younger than Philip and only 17 when he died, suffered a catastrophic mental breakdown after she found out the news of her brother's death, one from which she never recovered. For the rest of her life, she lived in what was described as an "eternal childhood," unable to care for herself. She consistently spoke of Philip as if he were still alive, a belief she maintained until her passing, and often failed to recognize her family members, including her own parents and siblings. Her mother took care of her until Eliza became too old to do so, eventually being placed in the care of Dr. MacDonald of Flushing, Queens, where she would then remain for the rest of her life. She passed away in 1857 at the age of 72.
Fun fact for Casper and Mortius: in Stay Alive (Reprise), Eliza arrives to the hospital wearing all black. And this is not a symbolic, it’s because Eliza just came back from Peggy's funeral.
A couple fun things to point out: Casper's thing about the color Hamilton is wearing is actually a thing. Brown coat during his student years, blue soldier's uniform during the war, green velvet jacket during his time actively working as a founding father/ TREASURER. Black post fallout with Adams/the later years. And every character wears parchment at the beginning as "blank slates" except for Burr, our narrator, wearing black already. Most of the actors, though not all, return to this blank slate dress for the finale. They've stepped out of the story and are actors again. Jefferson comes after Hamilton for his dress sense in Cabinet Battle #1: "He knows nothing of loyalty.Smells like new money, dresses like fake royalty. Desperate to rise above his station, Hamilton betrays the ideals of our nation." Jefferson is intensely hypocritical here, as hes wearing PURPLE, a color traditionally associated with royalty. He also is desperate to steer the nation his way to the point where he betrays everyone (most notably Washington) to rise above his OFFICE and try to become president. Also (not so fun): When Philip died, Eliza was pregnant with her eighth and final child. The unimaginable, indeed. Philip's next youngest sister, Angelica, went insane after his death (they'd been very close) and never recovered. Hamilton continually tried to find help for her, and she lived with Eliza until Eliza's death as they were unwilling to institutionalize her.
One of my favorite fun facts about Hamilton is that Lin did a lot of the writing at the house Alexander and Eliza moved into after Philip’s death. Lin gave a really great interview about Hamilton for Sirius XM On Broadway. In the interview he talked a lot about the writing process.
I've heard that scream so many times, and I've never made it without crying as a result. It physically hurts in my chest every single time. Also, I've seen a few other Elizas do the scream live and Philippa Soo's still hits the hardest. I usually skip these 3 songs when I'm listening to the soundtrack, it's just too much. So good though
If it's any consolation for a tragedy of Phillip Hamilton in this play, in real life, George didn't shoot early. In fact, he shot very late, and George died of tuberculosis only 2 years later, and those 2 years were miserable for him. They both turned to each other and stared at each other for a while, Old West style, and when Phillip started raising his gun, George shot first, cuz he thought Phillip was going to take aim.
The cast album version of Stay Alive is generally less painful to listen to because Eliza doesn’t do the screams and sobs. Those really add to the visceral feelings of grief and despair going into “It’s Quiet Uptown”.
The reason the phillip eacker duel takes place in jersey is because out of all the former colonies, now states the dueling laws were the most lax. Meaning the punishment wasn't as severe because dueling was outlawed even though it was practiced openly.
Daddy Daddy Look! My Name's Phillip I was a poet. I spoke these lines just to show it. And then I, went and died. You could save lives but you couldn't save mine. (I'm sorry)
"unlike you I actually have a filter" yeah.. that lack of filter is a very danish thing 😂🤣 You should come live here for a while. You might lose yours 😂😂😂
One fun fact that I think is sad to note that I noticed: In the reprise, Phillip tells Eliza “I’m so sorry for forgetting what you taught me”, and I think that it ties back into Take a Break when Eliza is teaching Phillip to count. George shot Phillip on count 7, and Phillip thought that he counted wrong. He’s apologizing to Eliza because he thinks it’s his fault that he was shot, that he counted wrong. But he didn’t.😭😭
Yes. Stay Alive and Stay Alive (reprise) both use the exact same chord progression as the James Bond theme. Howard Ho does an excellent video explaining the choice. Interestingly enough, Say No to This uses the same chord progression but in the a major key instead of in a minor key like James Bond and Stay Alive do.
For the color theory, what I’ve heard is, Jefferson is in purple because they were basing it off of Prince (since that is kind of Jeffersons singing style) and they put Hamilton in green to represent him being the lead treasurer and in charge of the money…I’m not sure if that’s accurate but that’s just what I’ve heard!
heres some color theory: - jefferson wears a *purple* coat (associated with royalty because purple was a color hard to obtain back then) - hamilton wears a *green* coat (often associated with money and envy) and one of jefferson's line to hamilton was: *"smells like new money, dresses like fake royalty"*
Stay alive always takes me out, Phillipa Soo acting as Eliza in that scene made me cry, especially that scream 💔 It’s Quiet Uptown turned me into a puddle on the floor 😭
11:17 Philip turned to face him. So they did do the full count, it’s just that the 8. 9. Part was cut of. when Philip and his mother played piano, He did higher keys as his mother did lower keys. The bullet stopped him before he could change.
Fun or Maybe Not Fact: I watched somewhere that Philip changes the melodies when they played piano on seven onwards. Then he gets shot on seven. And dies before he reaches seven.
I'm so glad Casper caught the James Bond theme. Please, you guys, watch Howard Ho's videos. He did a whole set of essays about Hamilton. Please, I would love for you to have the insight.
i dont think anyone has pointed this out yet BUT when Philip and eliza was counting in french, Philip's heartbeat stopped at "sept" which means seven, and at what number did eacker shot philip? seven
so the george/philip duel didn't exactly happen like that irl. George still shot philip, but it was after the countdown. they counted to ten, kinda stood there awkwardly for a few seconds, then George shot him.
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Are we also gonna get a reaction to 10 things 1 thing? It’s the original version of the world was wide enough and has a bunch of differences from the final version since we get to see Alexander’s pov while he gets ready for the dual.
Will we non patrons have access later?
My name is Philip
I am in heaven
Because George Eaker
Can't count past seven
NOOOOOOOOO
THATS VILE😭
VILLAINOUS COMMENT
I laughed… AND NOW I FEEK BAD… 😢
I hate that I laughed
The fact that they had him literally flirting with death and saying that later he would get intimately familiar with her is such a clever touch (I know it's the bullet but still he said he wanted to strip down to his socks with her, that's an interesting thing I've heard noted)
And she touches him! He was doomed from that moment 😢
intimately familiar is a crazy way to put it
@@secretyidentity2833 yeah sorry I was trying to find a polite way to put it, he did tell this shows literal representation of death that he wanted to strip down to his socks with her, if that's not intimately familiar, then I don't know what it is (and believe me I don't know what is, but that seems pretty damn close) and, in a manner of speaking he would later get intimately familiar with death (okay I'll see myself out now)
The only constant in this world is that whenever someone reacts to stay alive reprise almost every single Hamilton fan will say “not so fun fact, Eliza was wearing black because she was coming back from Peggy’s funerals”
I can’t wait to tell this to my friend I’m gonna show Hamilton to and watch her face somehow get more distraught then before lmao
I have some bad news for you 😂
Another not so fun fact: Eliza was pregnant when Phillip died
Unless Eliza was away for 8 months for Peggy's funeral, probably not historically accurate.
@@fluterify she was probably still in mourning. But yeah, Peggy died early that year and Philip died in November (I’m pretty sure)
Now that we’ve seen Phillip’s fate, I wanted to point out some of the genius in Miranda’s lyricism. In the first song, there were four lines from characters declaring their relationships with Hamilton. Now, we can realize that three of the lines had double meanings. These lines were:
“We fought with him.” Lafayette and Mulligan fought alongside him, while Jefferson and Madison… fought him.
“Me? I died for him.” Laurens died fighting for his ideals, while Phillip died defending his honor.
“Me? I loved him.” Eliza was his wife, Angelica and Peggy were his sisters-in-law, and Maria made love to him. (Notice the use of “Me” instead of “We.”)
With this, we realize that each double-cast member is performing in their capacity as both characters that they play, and thus, EVERY major character (besides the King, who has no actual relationship with Hamilton) is present in the intro laying out the story.
Oh, and George Eacker had little other impact on American history after the duel because he died of tuberculosis less than three years later.
And that's what's called "karma", ladies and gentlemen. 😏
@Tails If we mate talking about the musical than yes, if we’re talking about real history than not really as in the real duel after the ten count Philip and George both just stood there without shooting for about a minute (according to their seconds) and Philip raised his gun then Eaker shot him.
Ask Eaker I kept got the illness after one night in the winter when he went out to help put out a house fire and got very sick. He frequently got ill afterwards and then passed away after it became tuberculosis.
*Eaker got an illness after
Dear Theodosia is extra sad, because both fathers outlive the children they were singing about. Burr outlived all of his children. Theodosia was lost at sea at only 29 years old. None of his other children lived to be adults.
Lost at sea?? Why was she at sea??
They were also both blown away, Theodosia at sea and Phillip by the bullet
@@themoonlit-wolf3773she was going to see burr 🥲
She was on a ship to New York 😢
31:27 “I know there’s no replacing what we’ve lost”
Names their son Phillip II
Tbf that's just something people did back then. Also, Philip is a common name and the name of Eliza's father.
Fun fact: Eliza was pregnant when Phillip died
get the word “fun” out of there rn LMAO
How dare u
@@Phasmania 💀
the "1-2-3-4-5-6-7-!" followed then Mortius deadpan stare at the camera
History facts (correct me if I'm wrong, also maybe spoilers):
In history, I'm not sure if this actually happened, but george didn't shoot on 7. They waited, but when Phillip started to raise his gun, he panicked and shot him, george died a few years later due to his alcohol addiction, and he would apologize over and over for killing Phillip.
Also, the gun wasn't Alexander's it was Eliza's fathers gun that was passed down as a wedding gift. And Alexander used it in his own duel against Burr.
Eliza was wearing the all black dress as a show of mourning her either sister or father's death, which she had just come from the funeral or something.
Angelica had to move in with hamilton and eliza, I think she kinda went crazy when she heard about Phillips' death. Correction it was Alexander's daughter named Angelica
I have seen theories that George had a spasm and accidentally shot him, but regardless it’s awful.
Just a note - it wasn't Angelica, it was Hamilton's daughter (who was named Angelica) that had a mental breakdown after her brother was killed
From what i've heard, the whole thing about philip being shot on 7 came from eliza teaching him to count to 10 in order to calm himself down. While he was raising the gun, he apparently started counting to himself, and was at 7 when eacker shot him.
(Take this with a grain of salt as well, i have no idea if it's actually true but it's sad to think about regardless :
Her sister's death
We, musical fans, are kind of a psychotic bunch.
"That was awful!"
"YES, it is awful...(smiles like the cat that got the canary) and isn't that great???"
Another "fun" fact: Philip died at the age of 19. There are 19 songs between his birth (Dear Theodosia) and his death (Stay Alive reprise). LMM is a freaking genius.
I'm pretty sure it's the same for Hamilton himself. He dies at age 47, there are 47 songs. (Or 48, idk if it's counting Lauren's Interlude)
@@Axt.Artist Lauren's Interlude does not count as a song due to not being present in the Official Cast Recording.
15:32 sad fact: ya notice how Philip mentioned forgetting what Eliza taught him? That’s in reference to the counting scene in “take a break”. He thought he miscounted.
Sorry about this Casper but...:
Philip has gone down the drain in the end
the poor actor who has to die twice
Exactly-
Fun fact, Mr. Eaker didn’t shoot early, and Philip didn’t aim to the sky. Once the counting was done, Philip would not raise his gun, confusing Eaker. After a whole minute of standing there, they both raised their guns and Eaker shot Philip. Philip also fired but it was probably an accident due to a muscle spasm from being shot. Hamilton isn’t perfect at telling the story and I would recommend everyone watch a video called “the inaccuracies of Hamilton”
Sorry to ruin that for anyone, just wanted to say the truth
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@@bluebay1031 ..
@@braxtontaylor5575you didn't ruin it, everyone here knows that some minor details get changed to improve the story a bit
@@voidfloof true, but it’s good to know whats false and what’s true when watching any historical adaptation
The recorded version not having the scream in Stay Alive, definitely lessens the impact of the song.
No, it's still impactful. Trust me, it's still got a lot of impact.
I’m actually glad it’s left out.
Little extras, like the [redacted] at the end of the play, or the Bullet getting done in between You’ll Be Back and Right Hand Man, keep the movie recording special.
@@TailsFan There are varying degrees of impact…. Yes…. It’s still impactful.
@@StoryMing maybe outside of the context of the visuals…. Maybe it is better not to have it. I still miss it when listening to the audio
I can agree the scream adds so much, but IMO it's one of the reasons to watch it rather than just listen to the soundtrack. I still remember the first time I got to watch it live the Laurens' death scene and Phillip's death scene were such an emotional punch that I did not see coming so I get why they left it out of the recordings
The only words she sings in this song are, "It's quiet uptown." And in the tune of That Would Be Enough. And. the first unimaginable thing is losing a child. Because we have words for children who lose parents, and people who lose spouses. But not parents who lose children, it's so against the natural order of things.
It didn’t use to be, half of children didn’t reach 5 back then
I'll be the color theory person
-In the beginning of the musical, Hamilton and his friends are wearing brown as Hamilton is a very poor man trying to make a name for himself
Burr is in purple, a very dark purple, but still purple. It's to represent his prestige, as the prodigy of this college but very subtly
-Then they all change to revolutionary blue for the war, the opposite of Britain's Redcoats
-The sisters are wearing very bright colors, because they can afford the expensive dyes. Angelica in an orange, because she's very fiery, and Eliza in a blue, because she's very calm and demure. Peggy is in yellow I think because she's a very bubbly person, historical
-Then Hamilton changes to green. He is the Secretary of the Treasury, green like his money. But also green with envy, he wants the power and influence Jefferson has
-Madison is in a powder blue jacket, but if you notice he has orange on the inside. Madison is always described as very sickly on the outside but he is very passionate on the inside
-Mariah is in this very lustful red dress, clearly reinforcing her sex appeal is on full display, but it's red like blood as well. Like she is a wound inflicted on Alexander and his family
-Jefferson wears a bombastic pinky purple coat. He is the most out there in terms of political belief and is openly showing it off. The purple, as I mentioned before, represents the prestige that Jefferson carries with him. He wrote the declaration of independence, he's a very important figure. Later, Jefferson changes into brown, because he's trying to mellow out to win the presidency
-Burr also seems to be in a much darker coat in act two, representing how his thoughts and ideals are kind of darkening and becoming more intense
-Philip only has a powder blue vest, to represent his mom but he covers it up with his coat to kind of represent his backing away from the ideals his mom taught him, but they're still there
-Hamilton ends the show in all black, his green vest only making an appearance in the election of 1800 to represent that he's still the money man, to show his morning of his son and his own death
Eliza ends in a white gown with blue undertone to represent how motherly, heavenly, and pure she becomes at the end of the musical
This was very interesting. Thanks for taking the time to write it.
He did predict it, but man.
It must still hurt so much-
The reason Phillip says "I'm so sorry for forgetting what you taught me" is in reference to take a break where she is teaching him how to count. He thought he miscounted, but no George eaker just cant count.
But this is just a theory.... A musical theory.
The "Forgiveness" line always gets me damn 😭
Every single time
Prophet Casper has spoken. He’s dying before Mortius. The only question is: nat 1 or 20
He always struggled to get past 7 when Eliza taught Phillip French in Take A Break, and then he dies counting to 7 ….
Not so fun fact the line "blow us all away" was not only in references to the expansion of their fathers but also to their deaths. Philp to the shot, and Theodosia to a storm at see.
Finally, I heard the joke from the previous video
What is it???😭
@@Blue_foods213 idk if there's a clip of mortius telling the joke on youtube but you can just search up "a man stays the night with monks and hears a strange sound" for the full thing
God the way Caspar turned into this tiny small terrified distraught looking thing after Eliza screams 🥺😭
Phillipa Soo mentions in an interview that one of the few times she was ever thrown off in the live performance was when they were doing a show for the high schoolers. When Phillip dies, the teenaged girls in the audience screamed before she could... 😏
The high schoolers were there as part of there program with the local schools in the NYC area. The kids would write songs, scenes, or raps about history and come to their theater to perform them for the cast, then the cast would treat them to a performance of Hamilton. So cool... 😊
Philip's death hit his younger sister the hardest of all his family. Angelica Hamilton was very close to Philip, and when he died, she had a complete psychological collapse that lasted for the rest of her life. She mentally reverted to childhood and always still believed Philip was still alive. When Eliza became too old to take care of her herself, Angelica went to live with her doctor until she died aged 72.
Also, Philip was Philip Hamilton. Philip Schuyler was his grandfather, Eliza's father.
I don't know what Casper said but it looked like he was describing how he wanted to tear George Eacker apart slowly to pay for his crimes.
Also fun fact when philip says "I'm so sorry for forgetting what you taught me" it's because Eliza taught him how to count and he thinks he's the one who messed up the counting in the duel, not George Eaker :D
Lin-Manuel has said that the use of Eliza's words indicates that for a guy with so many words, Hamilton is so broken by Phillip's death has just left him speechless, and the only thing he can do is reflect Eliza's words back to her. And here I was knowing what's covered in these songs thinking I could get through them with all the pausing/deconstructions/conversations without crying. NOPE.
In Non-Stop, Alex does sing "Look around at how Lucky we are to be alive right now" in a dick-move to get Eliza to be ok with him running off with Washington to run the Treasury... 😑
did he know that the bullet won an oscar?
Maybe they'll do that one next... 🤔
Oh no, this is one of the strongest marriages in history, Eliza stayed with him after he publicized his affair, and continued to have his children, they totally moved on from the whole thing, with no visible break between them as far as we can tell(there were never any letters in the two that alluded to the affair or any resentment on her part, she remained his loving wife and as far as we know he remained faithful to her as well, knowing Hamilton if this ever happened again he probably would have publicized it again)
It's almost like the historical and cultural context at the time made it impossible for women to leave their husbands (even cheaters and abusers) and still have a dignified and happy life afterwards. No shit she stayed with him, Maria stayed with her husband for years too, but sure, try to romanticize the cruel reality women were subjected to in past.
@@secretyidentity2833 hey I wanted to avoid saying the thing, but if she actually hated him so bad she wouldn't have spoken so highly of him after he died, if she hated him she could have easily said so, but as far as we can tell she never had a negative word to say about him, I get it at the time wouldn't have allowed for a divorce but again she never showed a hint of resentment even after she could have spoken about her resentments(it's not really me romanticizing it, it's me stating the exact way that she felt, if anything she romanticized him after his death, she made it her life's work to do everything she could to portray him in a positive light, she hated the people he hated till the day she died, if she at all felt trapped in this relationship she would have spoken her mind the instant he died, and if not the instant he died it would have come out over the 50 plus years she was alive after him)
Can't use the "lack of letters referencing the affair" as evidence considering she might have just destroyed those letters
@@voidfloof I feel in no way qualified to comment on that perspective, because even the source material for this musical doesn't go with that perspective (he mentions in the opening of the book that she seemed like she had burned some letters, because she was self-deprecating, and that's literally all chernow has to say on the matter) so I won't dispute the possibility,, I will just leave it where it is, I didn't mean to make anyone mad when I made this, comment, I just felt confident that the relationship wasn't awful based on the fact that Eliza literally had 50 years as a separate person from Hamilton but she still never spoke a bad word about him, and tried to make sure his name was immortalized in the best way possible, so I'm trying to look at this in a positive light, obviously that's not for everyone but I I personally feel like these actions would indicate a decent marriage at the very least?
@@dragansnyder2786 yeah, cause her life would be so good if, after the death of one of the most important man in the creation of the US, she started "talking bad abt him"
also, as a woman, who the hell was she gonna talk bad abt him TO? Who would listen or even care abt what she had to say, ppl barely cared when she was singing his praises non-stop for YEARS, to the point it has taken this play for ppl to even listen to her story (alexander being an immigrant from South America instead of white british europe also played a part in it)
And yes, it is romanticizing, there are many women to this day who live in abusive and/or toxic relationships with cheating spouses and don't a say a damn word abt it to anyone and many more throughout history that lived their entire lives in suffuring silence bc no one would want to listen to them or care abt their situations. Not having RECORD of her feeling resentment or hatred towards her cheating husband does mean the feeling did not exist, and bc WE DO KNOW the cultural and historical reality that would lead to the lack of these records it IS romanticizing history to say "they had one of the strongest marriages in history" when their story and the lack of records of "bad fellings" is literally no different than a vast portion of women at the time, give me a fucking break, if that's what a strong marriage is "the appearence of dedication, stability and respect" lets honestly just abolish divorce alltogether and bring back in full force the culture of any woman without a husband is a disgrace, then we can all have long lasting strong marriages like theirs.
There is an interview with Renee Elise Goldsberry that Mortius needs to see. She is talking about how in Satisfied, Angelica basically gives Alexander to her sister and from that point on becomes their 'observer' or something like that. It is so close to what Mortius says. I believe it is during an appearance on Live with Kelly Ripa and whomever she is hosting with at the time... if I can find the link I will post it in a reply.
my brother passed in 2006 and its quiet uptown never fails to make my whole family sob
That scream gets me every time. It's so raw and real. Phillipa Sou is truly an amazing actor as well as singer.
as someone who's going through their "easier to just swim down" period, "It's Quiet Uptown" destroys me.
OK PLEASE WHOEVER MEDITATES WHETHER CASPER OR MORTIUS SEES WHAT COMMENTS. IF YOU CAN LET ONLY MORTIUS SEE THIS COMMENT CUZ IK HES SEEN HAMILTON 23:21 YES ANGELICA TELLS ELIZA’S STORY BUT THEY ARE DOING THIS TOGETHER BECAUSE OF ELIZA AND ANGELICA TELLING THE STORY OF HAMILTON! PLEASE REFER TO “WHO LIVES WHO DIES WHO TELLS YOUR STORY”(just before when Eliza says Angelica is buried near Hamilton)
Live commentary while I procrastinate 😊✌️:
12:58 does anyone know how to lip read?
16:24 galactibunbun1711 has a animatic with my Favorite stay alive (reprise) Eliza's scream. I get chills Every Single Time
24:30 I know your suffering Mortius but your face was very red and I was legitimately afraid you would pop something
i think it was ‘shh i know i know`
found this on imdb... but didn't crosscheck.
"Philip took his father's advice, and refused to raise his pistol to fire after he and Eacker had counted ten paces and faced each other. Eacker, following suit, did not shoot either. For the first minute, both men stood, doing nothing, both refusing to shoot. After a minute, Eacker finally raised his pistol, and Philip did the same. Eacker shot and struck Philip above his right hip. The bullet went through his body and lodged in his left arm. In what may have been an involuntary spasm, Philip also fired his pistol before he hit the ground, but this bullet did nothing."
As many likely have said, the real story of George Eaker and Philip Hamilton's duel is a bit different from what Hamilton shows. Hamilton, likely for the sake of the story, fudges a lot of details. For instance, Eaker didn't shoot Philip during the count. After the count, rather than raising his gun to shoot, he just sort of stood there confusing Eaker until he moved to raise his gun possibly to the surrendering gesture but he freaked out Eaker in the process and got shot.
After Philip's death, its said that Hamilton was so wrecked that he couldn't even stand at his son's funeral, having to be raised up by his friends to even see his son off. Meanwhile, Philip's sister, Angelica (yes named for her aunt) had a mental breakdown that resulted in her spending the rest of her life in need of constant care. Philip was adored by *everyone* .
Fun fact the wail at the end of stay alive (reprise) isn’t in the studio recording it’s only in the play
For the record, the real life duel between Philip and Eacker, Eacker did not actually shoot before ten. (According to a quick google search, grain of salt as always.)
Instead, Philip refused to raise his pistol, as did Eacker. They stood there facing each other for a full minute before both raised their pistols and Eacker won. I *think* Philip was maybe going to aim for the sky but he was shot before then and ended up firing his bullet anyways. Regardless he still didn’t hit Eacker so the outcome was the same.
My mom doesn't like musicals, but i made her watch Hamilton and she cried at this part.
Sad details in stay alive: Philip apologizes for forgetting what Eliza taught him (counting) because Eaker shot on 7 but Philip thought he miscounted. Also Philip stops counting in French at 7.
I love how when Philip is flirting with the girls THE BULLET TOUCHES HIM.
Regarding the coat colours: I’m not aware of what it means, but costume design is very intentional, so I can’t imagine it doesn’t mean anything. Also the beige outfits the ensemble wears are referred to as “parchment”, so the colours worn over that base layer would be the ink, the writing put onto that blank parchment.
Also that joke! Mortius! You can’t do that to Casper!
16:59 I don’t know why but saying “Rest in Peace, Philip Schuyler” just made it feel even more heartbreaking but also kind of sweet- probably it feels like it pays more homage to everything Eliza has been through and her pain in losing her son. I know it was probably just a slip of the tongue (and strictly speaking is wishing peace to his grandfather) but I don’t know it just kind of works somehow.
I love watching your guy’s reactions! Petition here to have Casper and Mortius watch the musical Come From Away though!!!:
I would love to see that.
I saw this somewhere, I don't know if it's true correct me in I'm wrong, but apparently at the end of 'It's Quiet Uptown' , Philipa looked especially grief-stricken because she had just lost a family member before that, so when Lin was talking to her and asking her something while they were walking off stage, he was asking her if she was alright
Hamilton changing costumes doesn't really have a meaning, HOWEVER! I want to point out how the show starts with Hamilton in white, the color of being dead. The show begins and ends with Hamilton in WHITE.
I actually feel for that. That was clever.
oh this reaction is going to demolish me
As a patron, yeah I saw the long ass joke you did to Casper. You fooled me too lol. Although, did you make up that monk story? Cuz I feel like I've heard it before
You might have seen it from a tumblr post read by Bettina Levy
@@voidfloof I remember only watching their Undertale dubs
"It's Quiet Uptown" only really hit me when it got to the "forgiveness" part. It's just this sudden turn of what "the unimagibable" means in the song, from the greatest loss Hamilton had to face the greatest gift anyone could have given him at that time. The unimaginable grief and the unimaginable willingness of Eliza to give him a second chance. And like you said, the beginning just has you feeling empty after Phillips death, but the second Elizs takes Hamiltons hand it turns to a feeling of relief and gives room to grief and healing. Maybe relief isn't the right word, maybe it's just the realization that, even though horrible things happen to people that don't deserve it because life just isn't fair, that also means that people who don't deserve it can get a second chance. It's a hard feeling to describe, this song has a mix of grief, longing, hope and healing in it. Emotionally probably the best written song in the entire musical.
These 3 songs wreck me every time, I actually have to skip Blow Us All Away and Stay Alive (reprise) most times - I have to be having a great mental health day to listen to them. What an incredible musical.
Eliza has also lost Peggy. She had died a few months prior to this. Which is why they are dressed in all black, (mourning clothes)
I lost my mom some weeks ago.. and quiet up town is just perfect to describe grief
Alternate title: Two grown men crying about a musical.
25:25 It's actually really interesting to me that for you this a song you don't cry so much at. Cause for me that's the song I cry the most at. Grief hits hard
I don’t know if anyone’s said this, but Hamilton’s line “you did everything just right” is so gut wrenching because it’s the same melody as Washington’s “I make every mistake” I History has it’s Eye on You. Washington made all the mistakes and still lived. Philip did every right and died. It’s so tragic!!!!
Others have said about Eacker not shooting on 7 so I won't repeat the whole story, I'll focus on another detail in that song.
You know how I said in the comments a while ago that I knew for certain that Peggy was still alive? The reason I know is because of Eliza's black dress in Stay Alive (reprise): I've been told that she was still wearing black for Peggy, who died within the year, when Philip got shot. (I know everybody and their bullet wrote about this already but I promised I would talk about this back in the comments to the other video and so I did.)
BTW, another thing I left in half to avoid spoilers was that pistols and microphones are from the same case, and the music of Cabinet Battles is a remix of the dueling countdown / French counting song. The show draws a lot of parallels between verbal and physical duels.
That said, seeing Mortius melt down during the first part of It's Quiet Uptown feels so personal.
Hamilton, by the way, is still in green (the color of money, of success) but the dress is made in a tissue that looks very dark under certain lights, which is used in his darkest moments. Again, someone else commented on the color theory behind the dresses so I won't repeat that but also notice how Hamilton changes coat on stage in act 1 (I think during Alexander Hamilton and during Guns and Ships). The amount of details in this show is amazing.
The part about Hamilton not turning other people's words agains them, anyway? It happens a lot. From "Talk less, smile more" to all the times he uses "look at how lucky we are to be alive right now" to justify his being busy... it's not until act 2 when his downfall starts and people (I think Jefferson) start using his own sentences against him (because he's a smarter opponent than the ones Hamilton has faced until now).
And now let me unpause and hear that "she takes his hand" part again. ç____ç
It's quiet Uptown might not be a sad song, but it never fails to move me.
33:17, btw, has Mortius and Lin sighing at the same time.
not so fun fact: the piano counting is the same melody as the duel counting theme
I’m so excited for this!
Meanest cold open ever 😭
Thing about duel is - Philip was pointing the gun in the sky, and this could work (at least in the musical) if he doesn't do this just a little bit to early. Eacker shot on seven not because he some crazy as psycho and asshole who likes killing young boys, but because Philip couldn't count to ten correctly and started acting way ahead, even though his mother teach him in one of the song (how can you missed this when in reprise this is brought up is crazy to me) lol. And because of that Eacker, young, hot-blooded and not even that older then Philip, just reacted like this out of fear being shot, so whole thing about him not having honor is liiitle bit exaggerated. Also i like how whole thing is a big prelude and foreshadowing for future songs ;)
Fun fact!: When Philip and Eliza are counting, Philip’s heartbeat stops when Eliza reaches 7 and Philip 3, which makes them count to 10 together!
Not so fun fact: Angelica Hamilton, the second eldest child of Alexander and Eliza, who was just two years younger than Philip and only 17 when he died, suffered a catastrophic mental breakdown after she found out the news of her brother's death, one from which she never recovered. For the rest of her life, she lived in what was described as an "eternal childhood," unable to care for herself. She consistently spoke of Philip as if he were still alive, a belief she maintained until her passing, and often failed to recognize her family members, including her own parents and siblings. Her mother took care of her until Eliza became too old to do so, eventually being placed in the care of Dr. MacDonald of Flushing, Queens, where she would then remain for the rest of her life. She passed away in 1857 at the age of 72.
Hamilton "Oh thank Gods! Angelica thank you for.."
Angelica putting on her Arron Burr hat. "I'm not HERE FOR YOU!"
Fun fact for Casper and Mortius: in Stay Alive (Reprise), Eliza arrives to the hospital wearing all black. And this is not a symbolic, it’s because Eliza just came back from Peggy's funeral.
A couple fun things to point out: Casper's thing about the color Hamilton is wearing is actually a thing. Brown coat during his student years, blue soldier's uniform during the war, green velvet jacket during his time actively working as a founding father/ TREASURER. Black post fallout with Adams/the later years. And every character wears parchment at the beginning as "blank slates" except for Burr, our narrator, wearing black already. Most of the actors, though not all, return to this blank slate dress for the finale. They've stepped out of the story and are actors again.
Jefferson comes after Hamilton for his dress sense in Cabinet Battle #1: "He knows nothing of loyalty.Smells like new money, dresses like fake royalty. Desperate to rise above his station, Hamilton betrays the ideals of our nation." Jefferson is intensely hypocritical here, as hes wearing PURPLE, a color traditionally associated with royalty. He also is desperate to steer the nation his way to the point where he betrays everyone (most notably Washington) to rise above his OFFICE and try to become president.
Also (not so fun): When Philip died, Eliza was pregnant with her eighth and final child. The unimaginable, indeed. Philip's next youngest sister, Angelica, went insane after his death (they'd been very close) and never recovered. Hamilton continually tried to find help for her, and she lived with Eliza until Eliza's death as they were unwilling to institutionalize her.
One of my favorite fun facts about Hamilton is that Lin did a lot of the writing at the house Alexander and Eliza moved into after Philip’s death. Lin gave a really great interview about Hamilton for Sirius XM On Broadway. In the interview he talked a lot about the writing process.
I've heard that scream so many times, and I've never made it without crying as a result. It physically hurts in my chest every single time. Also, I've seen a few other Elizas do the scream live and Philippa Soo's still hits the hardest. I usually skip these 3 songs when I'm listening to the soundtrack, it's just too much. So good though
If it's any consolation for a tragedy of Phillip Hamilton in this play, in real life, George didn't shoot early. In fact, he shot very late, and George died of tuberculosis only 2 years later, and those 2 years were miserable for him. They both turned to each other and stared at each other for a while, Old West style, and when Phillip started raising his gun, George shot first, cuz he thought Phillip was going to take aim.
The cast album version of Stay Alive is generally less painful to listen to because Eliza doesn’t do the screams and sobs. Those really add to the visceral feelings of grief and despair going into “It’s Quiet Uptown”.
The reason the phillip eacker duel takes place in jersey is because out of all the former colonies, now states the dueling laws were the most lax. Meaning the punishment wasn't as severe because dueling was outlawed even though it was practiced openly.
The green clothes were meant to just represent money as he built the money system, the dark blue/black was just to show that he was sad/grieving
I think it is a historcally interesting choice to have Philip's death in 1801 before the election of 1800.
You call her the bullet, I call her Oscar Winner Ariana DeBose.
Well… this was frickin heartbreaking… gonna go cry in my bed now ig…
“The bringer of depression” little did he know that it wasn’t over 😂
Also in the play Phillip dies on the count of seven when him and his mother are counting at the end.
16:57 I mean... I guess that's technically his name but you got mixed up with his grandfather.
It's just Philip Hamilton
OML IM DEAD 😂😂😂😂😂
Here we are, three grown men, crying again.
oh my, the last ep is gonna be a MESS for these two 😭
Daddy Daddy Look!
My Name's Phillip
I was a poet.
I spoke these lines just to show it.
And then I, went and died.
You could save lives but you couldn't save mine.
(I'm sorry)
So, fun fact that I don't know if it was mentioned elsewhere. Elisa 'It's quiet uptown' is also a return of the That would be enough motive.
"unlike you I actually have a filter"
yeah.. that lack of filter is a very danish thing 😂🤣
You should come live here for a while. You might lose yours 😂😂😂
One fun fact that I think is sad to note that I noticed:
In the reprise, Phillip tells Eliza “I’m so sorry for forgetting what you taught me”, and I think that it ties back into Take a Break when Eliza is teaching Phillip to count.
George shot Phillip on count 7, and Phillip thought that he counted wrong.
He’s apologizing to Eliza because he thinks it’s his fault that he was shot, that he counted wrong.
But he didn’t.😭😭
Okay- now I need to learn to lip-read.
Also… it’s Philip HAMILTON.
Philip Schuyler was the father-in-law whose seat A. Burr took in the senate.
Some of the best parts is in Phillips child song... when Eliza is teaching him piano. He is speaking in french 1-10 but he bashes the keyboard on 7.
I'm now being recommended Fairly OddParents just through watching this video, Casper has done it
Yes. Stay Alive and Stay Alive (reprise) both use the exact same chord progression as the James Bond theme. Howard Ho does an excellent video explaining the choice. Interestingly enough, Say No to This uses the same chord progression but in the a major key instead of in a minor key like James Bond and Stay Alive do.
For the color theory, what I’ve heard is, Jefferson is in purple because they were basing it off of Prince (since that is kind of Jeffersons singing style) and they put Hamilton in green to represent him being the lead treasurer and in charge of the money…I’m not sure if that’s accurate but that’s just what I’ve heard!
heres some color theory:
- jefferson wears a *purple* coat (associated with royalty because purple was a color hard to obtain back then)
- hamilton wears a *green* coat (often associated with money and envy)
and one of jefferson's line to hamilton was:
*"smells like new money, dresses like fake royalty"*
Stay alive always takes me out, Phillipa Soo acting as Eliza in that scene made me cry, especially that scream 💔
It’s Quiet Uptown turned me into a puddle on the floor 😭
11:17 Philip turned to face him. So they did do the full count, it’s just that the 8. 9. Part was cut of. when Philip and his mother played piano, He did higher keys as his mother did lower keys.
The bullet stopped him before he could change.
Fun or Maybe Not Fact: I watched somewhere that Philip changes the melodies when they played piano on seven onwards. Then he gets shot on seven. And dies before he reaches seven.
I'm so glad Casper caught the James Bond theme. Please, you guys, watch Howard Ho's videos. He did a whole set of essays about Hamilton. Please, I would love for you to have the insight.
Philip: I'm a Hamilton with pride!
Mortius: RIP Philip Schuyler
i dont think anyone has pointed this out yet BUT when Philip and eliza was counting in french, Philip's heartbeat stopped at "sept" which means seven, and at what number did eacker shot philip? seven
so the george/philip duel didn't exactly happen like that irl. George still shot philip, but it was after the countdown. they counted to ten, kinda stood there awkwardly for a few seconds, then George shot him.