THE END! | The World Was Wide Enough + Who Lives, Who Dies, Who Tells Your Story | Reaction/Analysis

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  • Опубликовано: 15 ноя 2024

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  • @OpenArmsReactions
    @OpenArmsReactions  Месяц назад +143

    Thank you all so much for joining us on this historical AND musical journey.

    • @TheSillyGuyaxelotl
      @TheSillyGuyaxelotl Месяц назад +6

      Can there be reactions to other cut songs? I personally like "One last ride" and "Ten things, One thing" (Another version of The World Was Wide Enough, but with Hamilton having a ten dual commandments part as well) There's also a longer version of Schyuler Defeated which I really like, too! (Which is followed by another song, Let It Go)
      There's also a Dear Theodosia Reprise worth listening to, and The Adams Administration rap- dear, there are so many 😰

    • @bennythecennybagenny4007
      @bennythecennybagenny4007 Месяц назад +3

      I I'm pretty sure they did said they will listen to them at some point, they said it when listening to reynolds pamphlet ​@@TheSillyGuyaxelotl

    • @sierrasasmartass7755
      @sierrasasmartass7755 Месяц назад +1

      Eliza lived to be 97. She was 47 when Alexander died, and their marriage lasted 24 years.

    • @willow._.
      @willow._. Месяц назад +1

      it was fantastic ⭐️

    • @boomgirlbucko
      @boomgirlbucko Месяц назад +1

      Isn't Legally Blonde the musical that has the "Is he gay or European" song?

  • @morhido
    @morhido Месяц назад +646

    "My fellow soldiers'll tell you I'm a terrible shot"
    Fun fact: burr was aiming for hamilton's shoulder.

    • @Ilovelanguages265
      @Ilovelanguages265 Месяц назад +67

      I’m sobbing.

    • @anastasija6866
      @anastasija6866 Месяц назад +82

      Burr just has horrible luck first one Theodosia, then kills Hamilton then loses the other Theodosia

    • @Ilovelanguages265
      @Ilovelanguages265 Месяц назад +15

      @@anastasija6866 wait he looses his daughter???

    • @Godofwarenjoyer66664
      @Godofwarenjoyer66664 Месяц назад +82

      @@Ilovelanguages265 he outlives theodosia as she died at 29 in a ship wreck all of his other kids died before they even made it to adult hood

    • @Ilovelanguages265
      @Ilovelanguages265 Месяц назад +38

      @@Godofwarenjoyer66664 YOURE NOT HELPING MY SOBBING, but ty for the new info that’s so sad

  • @abstractwatercolor
    @abstractwatercolor Месяц назад +420

    Eliza asking “Can I show you what I’m proudest of?” and Casper nodding so earnestly was actually really, really cute. 🥹

    • @B.A.G.Is.A.Beginner
      @B.A.G.Is.A.Beginner Месяц назад +5

      I did not notice that my lord

    • @____thecommenter1569
      @____thecommenter1569 Месяц назад +2

      26:50

    • @gothic_ace2037
      @gothic_ace2037 19 дней назад +1

      he was so into it

    • @Lavenrius
      @Lavenrius 18 дней назад +3

      I know 😭 it just goes to prove what he was saying! He forgets he’s watching a play and gets so sucked into it and invested. It was a very cute moment

  • @joematthews4952
    @joematthews4952 Месяц назад +654

    A couple of interesting facts. Burr goes on to live almost another 30 years after the duel with Hamilton. For the rest of his life after the duel, he would always refer to Hamilton as "My friend Mr Hamilton, whom I shot."
    Burr would also outlive his daughter Theodosia, who died in a shipwreck. He would go on to get remaried, and later, when his wife wanted a divorce, her lawyer was Alexander Hamilton Jr.
    Burr would only once ever express regret about what happened with Hamilton. He was asked about the incident in a letter from a friend. He responded, "Had I read Sterne more and Voltaire less I should have known the world was wide enough for both Hamilton and me." Hence, we get the song.
    A lot of Lin's lyrics are taken from real dialogue. Hamilton did call Burr "amoral" and "a dangerous disgrace" and during the correspondence leading to the duel, Burr did sign all his letters "I have the honour to be your obedient servant, A. Burr."
    Finally, we see Hamilton writing a Letter during the Song "Best of Wives, Best of Women." The letter he is writing would become quite famous, and gives the song its name. It read;
    "To Elizabeth Hamilton,
    This letter, my very dear Eliza, will not be delivered to you, unless I shall first have terminated my earthly career; to begin, as I humbly hope from redeeming grace and divine mercy, a happy immortality.
    If it had been possible for me to have avoided the interview, my love for you and my precious children would have been alone a decisive motive. But it was not possible, without sacrifices which would have rendered me unworthy of your esteem. I need not tell you of the pangs I feel, from the idea of quitting you and exposing you to the anguish which I know you would feel. Nor could I dwell on the topic lest it should unman me.
    The consolations of Religion, my beloved, can alone support you; and these you have a right to enjoy.
    Fly to the bosom of your God and be comforted. With my last idea; I shall cherish the sweet hope of meeting you in a better world.
    Adieu best of wives and best of Women. Embrace all my darling Children for me.
    Ever yours,
    A.H"
    It was given to his second, Nathaniel Pendleton, who gave it to Eliza after Hamilton's death.
    Eliza lived to be 97 dying in 1854. Alexander hamilton was 48 or 49 when he died. Burr was 51 at the time of the duel and 79 when he died.
    Following Hamilton's death, It became a convention for every man elected president, to pay a courtesy call to Mrs Hamilton in D.C.
    Mrs Hamilton met every president up to and including Franklin Pierce, with one exception... James Monroe.
    Upon his election, Monroe went to pay her a call as tradition dictated, and she said she would only see him if he publicly apologised for the lies he spread about her husband. She blamed him for her husbands death as the main instigater of the public outcry relating to the Reynolds affair and a former close friend of Hamilton's. Monroe refused, and she demanded he leave without seeing him.

    • @BrandonVout
      @BrandonVout Месяц назад

      Burr also raised an expidition of "farmers" (read: militia) to take some land in Texas from Spain, banking on a war between the two powers being inevitable, possibly to form his own nation. Jefferson arrested him for treason to get him to back down, forcing him into exile in Europe for fear of individual states taking it further. While there, he tried to team up with Napoleon, only to run home under an assumed name after being rejected.
      His post-Hamilton life reads like a direct-to-video sequel to a Don Bluth film.

    • @corvus1374
      @corvus1374 Месяц назад +38

      Burr tried to get New Orleans as an independent country with him as President.

    • @AUCreatoer
      @AUCreatoer Месяц назад +8

      Nice facts!!

    • @midnightmoon7257
      @midnightmoon7257 Месяц назад +58

      There's also the fact that eliza actually was one of the only people to forgive maria reynolds for the situation that occured

    • @hannahbroom3733
      @hannahbroom3733 Месяц назад +5

      please let them see this 😂

  • @cgsoldier4196
    @cgsoldier4196 Месяц назад +347

    My favorite summarization of Burr and Hamilton’s relationship, by Lin-Manuel Miranda himself:
    “For most of the time they knew each other, Hamilton was reckless, Burr was cautious. The first time they switched places, one of them kills the other”

  • @uberdriver6016
    @uberdriver6016 Месяц назад +331

    One of my favourite things after knowing that Hamilton shot up is that in non-stop, Hamilton sings “I am not throwing away my shot” only for the chorus to sing back with “just you wait.” I love this musical

    • @anagarcia1139
      @anagarcia1139 Месяц назад +27

      I HAD NEVER THINK OF THAT OH MY GOD

    • @Sealittlesea
      @Sealittlesea Месяц назад +32

      I NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT! I mean the "I am not throwing away my shot" "just you wait" was so frequent in the first act that I never really connected the dots?

    • @josiemartinson6538
      @josiemartinson6538 Месяц назад +6

      How has this never occurred to me. brilliant

    • @danieldavid3766
      @danieldavid3766 Месяц назад +27

      Don’t forget this moment in Hurricane:
      Hamilton: “I was twelve when my mother died... I couldn’t seem to die.”
      Burr: “Wait for it, wait for it, wait for it”

    • @StoryMing
      @StoryMing Месяц назад +3

      This, and also the chorus urging him to _”Wait For It, Wait For It, Wait For It- WAIT”_ right before he pens the Reynolds Pamphlet at the end of ‘Hurricane’.

  • @Silensy
    @Silensy Месяц назад +253

    I will point out that while the show is nominally about Alexander, the TITLE is Hamilton and the last person we focus on is in fact Elizabeth Hamilton. There is a strong argument that the title references both Alex and Betsy.
    ETA: Also since Mortius didn't mention it, the orphanage is still open.

  • @edisonlima4647
    @edisonlima4647 Месяц назад +106

    The subversion of Madison coughing all the time and NOT dying - the usual end for that in theater and films - because irl Madison was ALWAYS sick like a dog and coughing, but he outlived literally ALL other founding fathers, the clever dog.

  • @dylanfooler
    @dylanfooler Месяц назад +212

    Lol, Mortius saying quick thought instead of slowmo for the Bullet's choreography

    • @OpenArmsReactions
      @OpenArmsReactions  Месяц назад +44

      😅

    • @P-man_XD
      @P-man_XD 7 дней назад +2

      He has EPIC on his mind, he's gonna say quick thought. LOL

  • @nudgificator
    @nudgificator Месяц назад +71

    Jonathan Groff is in the bow line up next to Daveed Diggs, he's just not dressed as King George so he's harder to spot.

  • @valerieloc1686
    @valerieloc1686 Месяц назад +268

    Eliza was 97 when she died. And she was waiting so long for that. People wrote that even when she was 80 (and probably younger) she would say that she wanted to see Hamilton again.

    • @valerieloc1686
      @valerieloc1686 Месяц назад +11

      Angelica was 67 and Peggy 43 or 42 (not exactly sure)

    • @ktoliman
      @ktoliman Месяц назад +27

      Eliza also was often visited or invited to meet by the sitting President up until her dearh in 1854. The last President to meet with Elizabeth Schuyler Hamilton was President Filmore

    • @C5hurricane-qy8qi
      @C5hurricane-qy8qi Месяц назад +7

      Another fun lil fact! Eliza almost lived long enough to see the American Civil War, she died only 6 years before it started.

    • @manooo0na
      @manooo0na 20 дней назад

      @@valerieloc1686 no she was 97, hamilton didn't die that young lol, he was 47 when he passed

    • @valerieloc1686
      @valerieloc1686 20 дней назад

      @@manooo0na yes, she was 97 when she died and they were both 47 when he died. Did I say something else?

  • @vikingcreature
    @vikingcreature Месяц назад +147

    Mortius said Alexander is the "title character", but I would argue otherwise. The musical is called "Hamilton", and so I would say it is about not just Alex, but Eliza (and to some extent Phillip) as well.
    Like they sang in the finale, "Will they tell your/our/my story?" It may have started with a literal biography of Alex' early life, but it ended up being a story about the Hamiltons as a whole, all of their stories were told, and I think that is beautiful ❤

  • @Sam_Less
    @Sam_Less Месяц назад +469

    Well this is it, the end, but now Casper you get to listen to all the weird variation of Hamilton such as the muppet version, scammilton and many others

    • @AUCreatoer
      @AUCreatoer Месяц назад +27

      That'll be hilarious lmfao

    • @amys7539
      @amys7539 Месяц назад +40

      And Weird Al's Hamilton Polka which is so funny!

    • @SiIker.
      @SiIker. Месяц назад +14

      Scamilton would be hilarious

    • @jacobspalace2720
      @jacobspalace2720 Месяц назад +9

      the muppet version Is goated

    • @eudstersgamersquad6738
      @eudstersgamersquad6738 Месяц назад +7

      ⁠​⁠@@amys7539Agreed! That is my favorite weird version, 100%!

  • @lunapomodoroplusdotazione
    @lunapomodoroplusdotazione Месяц назад +159

    Eliza, Alexander and Burr are also the only ones that wear something different from the other cast members, because they are Who Lives (Burr), Who Dies (Hamilton) and Who Tells Your Story (Eliza).

    • @pixelraid5742
      @pixelraid5742 Месяц назад +22

      also they each have a solo song (Wait for It, Hurricane, Burn) in that same order!!

    • @Meloned_turtle176
      @Meloned_turtle176 Месяц назад +3

      Wait, i never got that :⁠-o

  • @rhov-anion
    @rhov-anion Месяц назад +106

    In 1806, Eliza Hamilton teamed up with her friend Isabella Graham, a Scottish immigrant, and Isabella's daughter Joanna Bethune to create an orphanage that would come to be known as the Graham Home for Children. Another building in 1835, Windham Child Care, helped widowed mothers to care for their children. These two merged into the Graham Windham, which still exists today. In fact, Eliza's actress Phillipa Soo started "The Eliza Project" to bring the arts to these children (music, dancing, rapping) to help teach them how to express themselves. Truly, this is how you GET INTO CHARACTER.

  • @TheAlmaward
    @TheAlmaward Месяц назад +54

    Y'all are missing something. The name of the show is NOT Alexander Hamilton. Who takes the first solo bow at the end? Traditionally, on Broadway, the main character does that - but that isn't Alex. It's Eliza. This is HER story. The last song isn't an epilogue, it's a tribute to her. She lived another 50 years, and it became the custom for newly-elected Presidents to go to see her to get her views on the issues of the day.

  • @disableddragonborn
    @disableddragonborn Месяц назад +25

    17:37 As tragic as this song is, I got really happy from hearing Casper say "You poor fool." It's the first time I've seen someone actually feel bad for Burr in this moment. People seem to think that if they were in his position, they would've done things differently. I don't think I would. I can't know what I'd do, but self-preservation is instinctual, and marksman Alexander wore his glasses to the duel, so it isn't irrational to assume "Hey, this guy may actually be intending to shoot me."

  • @aniflowers1998
    @aniflowers1998 Месяц назад +204

    Burrs line "This man will NOT make an ORPHAN of my daughter" makes soooo much more sense in conection to the cut song "Dear Theodosia: Reprise"! Becouse in that song, we learn that Theodosia senior (Burrs now wive, and the mother of his daughter "Theodosia"), dies doe to sickmess. So if Burr would die in this dual, his daughter would be in the same posittion he was in growing up: an Orphan.
    It puts it in COMPLETELY different perspective why he acted the way he did during the dual!

    • @Sam_Less
      @Sam_Less Месяц назад +11

      If I remember right his daughter was already an adult by this point

    • @voidfloof
      @voidfloof Месяц назад +7

      He also outlived his daughter

    • @jackson857
      @jackson857 Месяц назад +5

      Um, no. Burr's daughter was 21 and married when Hamilton died. It's completely different to Burr who's parents died when he was 1 and 2 years old. You are not an orphan if you are 21 and married. Burr was looking for excuses.

    • @aniflowers1998
      @aniflowers1998 Месяц назад +8

      @@jackson857 "Orphan Syndrome: An orphan is typically defined as a child under the age of 18 who has lost one or both parents. When used in a broader sense, the word orphan applies to anyone who has lost their biological parents. Adult-age persons who have lost their parents can and still do identify themselves as orphans."
      So while you aren't incorect, the intendet use is for people under 18 (at least in america), the term "orphan" can still be applied to her, even if she is alredy over 18, from a sentimental standpoint.

  • @gigin6534
    @gigin6534 Месяц назад +128

    The one time Burr didn't wait for it...

  • @ammaleslie509
    @ammaleslie509 Месяц назад +67

    On a rewatch, look at George Washington's face when Eliza sings "I speak out against slavery" the character playing Washington looks down in shame (because he owned hundreds of slaves)

    • @MyBubbleInSpace
      @MyBubbleInSpace Месяц назад +8

      This! This is one of my favourite details of the final song!

  • @Nxvass
    @Nxvass Месяц назад +64

    34:42 AND at the beggining of the song "Alexander Hamilton", Alex has the same costume that everyone else because he is essencially dead, but when he prepares to tell his story, Eliza puts a coat on him almost like she wanted him to "revive". The ensamble and other characters have the white costume, except for Aaron and Alexander for the rest of the song.

    • @ms.chuckfu1088
      @ms.chuckfu1088 Месяц назад +2

      Nice take.

    • @meaghanrodel6056
      @meaghanrodel6056 15 дней назад +2

      Dead - or not realized / ready to take their places.
      It could be argued that they”re all as actors / representations of the characters they will soon become.
      Burr is only in color because has part-time narrator duties & just starts in that roll
      (But yea - I love that Burr takes the white coat & Eliza puts him in the brown)

    • @Nxvass
      @Nxvass 15 дней назад

      @meaghanrodel6056 YESS

  • @dragansnyder2786
    @dragansnyder2786 Месяц назад +34

    There's something really tragic about Eliza's death, because the final living widow of a founding father died 7 years before the American civil war began, in 1854 a civil war probably seemed inevitable, so you can imagine just how depressed this woman would be, because in some form or another she remembers the founding generation, she was one of the last living people to know those men personally, and she was alive to witness the beginnings of the schism.

  • @Skye_Writer
    @Skye_Writer Месяц назад +20

    Ok, as for how the musical came about: in Lin's own words, "I was looking for a book to read on the beach during a vacation in Mexico and happened to pick up this amazing biography about Alexander Hamilton by Ron Chernow. I had written a paper in high school about the duel in 1804 between Hamilton and Vice President Aaron Burr, but that was all I knew about the man. I said to myself, “I know this guy” - because his story is an immigrant story, which I find myself drawn to. I didn’t know that he was an immigrant until I read the book. This is a guy who pulled himself up from out of nothing and helped to create our nation. He was like some character from a Charles Dickens story. He was born illegitimate; he was an orphan by the time he was 10 and he was penniless. Just on the strength of his writing, he got himself a scholarship to come to New York at age 17.
    Hamilton also reminded me of my father. My father was about the same age as Hamilton when he came here from Puerto Rico to study, and he learned to speak English only while he was doing his studies here. He later served as a special advisor to Mayor Koch and ran political campaigns through his own consulting company. Writing the story has helped me understand my father and his ambition." He was so fascinated by the book that he wondered why Hamilton's life had never been made into a musical. Even other musicals like "1776" (the line Hamilton sings in Act 2, ♫Sit down, John...♫ is actually lifted right out of 1776) that focus on the Founding Fathers say little about Hamilton.
    It took Lin about seven years to write the show. It took him one year alone to write the second song in the show, "My Shot." He intended just to do a concept album, and there is a great video here on RUclips of Miranda performing the first song at the White House and explaining his concept that Hamilton had beef with all the other FF, and that seemed very hip-hop to Miranda, so he intended the album to do the same. That gave him his hook and realized not every character had to be hip-hop, each could sing in the style that best fit them. That's why King George sings like a British Invasion band from the 60s (to highlight his "otherness" as a British man), why Samuel Seabury sings to a staid, restrained harpsichord (to show how old fashioned he is), why the Schuyler sisters sing like those girl-power pop groups from the 1990s (like TLC), and why Jefferson, doing his own thing and being out of step with everything the Revolutionaries have been through, sings something jazzy and so different from the rest of the group, and YET easily falls steps into the hip-hop patterns and outraps Hamilton.

  • @true_honey_bee
    @true_honey_bee Месяц назад +46

    You guys *have* to react to "The Guy Who Didn't Like Musicals" at some point, even if you do it on your own channels. It is hilarious and you will not regret it :)

  • @oougahersharr
    @oougahersharr Месяц назад +61

    The theory is that this is not called Hamilton because it's Alexander's story. It's called Hamilton because it is about BOTH of them.

  • @ishauni_x
    @ishauni_x Месяц назад +64

    Why am I still crying during Who Lives, Who Dies, Who Tells Your Story? I've seen this damn show so often and still it gets me going 😭

  • @blkvamp12
    @blkvamp12 Месяц назад +7

    Former props crew girl here so I 1000000000% agree with Mortius, keep your 🍑 in your seat and respect the work of the cast, crew and orchestra!!!

  • @williamzinedineh
    @williamzinedineh Месяц назад +55

    Elizabeth Schuyler lived to 97. I do want to point out that life expectancy was not as low as it was at the time because of bad health LATER in life, it is because it also counts the infant mortality which was infinitely higher then than it is today. 97 is still impressive for the time but 70 was absolutely not unheard of for the time among people who lived past 4 years old
    (Also, LOVE that you're doing Legally Blonde!)

    • @ammaleslie509
      @ammaleslie509 Месяц назад +5

      Male life expectancy was one thing, but it was still fairly common for women to die in childbirth and in real life Eliza had eight children.

    • @nuadize
      @nuadize Месяц назад +4

      97 is still impressive for today ;) but you're totally correct. If I remember correctly, the Hamilton's also had some kids who did not survive infancy. But if I'm correct, Eliza survived all (or at least most) of their kids

  • @SS-rk2me
    @SS-rk2me Месяц назад +79

    Jonathan Groff changed into the same white outfit. He was in the line.

    • @vly9257
      @vly9257 Месяц назад +3

      Between Lafayette and Mulligan 😊

  • @starchytart
    @starchytart Месяц назад +12

    aaaa i hope you guys noticed Washington face when Eliza sing "i speak out against slavery" because the shame that comes to his face right after he proudly sings "she tells my story" (26:27) is just so good!

  • @vly9257
    @vly9257 Месяц назад +16

    Mortius, Lafayette and Mulligan actually change coats on stage. Other cast members bring their white coats and take their Jefferson and Madison coats away.
    The smooth transitions in this show are amazing 😊

  • @DarkestNova556
    @DarkestNova556 Месяц назад +7

    I think an interesting thing about the lyric “I survived, but I paid for it.” Is that it also implies that people were upset that he survived. Almost like a “It should have been you.”

  • @radicaledward84
    @radicaledward84 Месяц назад +17

    Casper's so lucky, this could have been one of the weeks where the scene would have played like this:
    C: "Of course you remember because it's your favourite song: death doesn't discriminate-"
    M: "Actually, my favorite song is One Last Time..."

  • @SS-rk2me
    @SS-rk2me Месяц назад +106

    Fun fact. The government was looking to replace one of the people on our bills to put a woman of history and it had been decided on replacing Hamilton on the $10 bill and the success of this musical changed their minds.

    • @jenniferbarnshaw426
      @jenniferbarnshaw426 Месяц назад +29

      They should have replaced him with Eliza.

    • @duolingoowl920
      @duolingoowl920 Месяц назад +30

      if anyone needs to be replaced its andrew jackson.

    • @SS-rk2me
      @SS-rk2me Месяц назад +6

      @duolingoowl920 that was the plan after this but there was a LOT of push back.

    • @hallieharvey4073
      @hallieharvey4073 Месяц назад

      @@SS-rk2meyea because everyone cried about DEI 🙄

    • @somedudewatchintv5297
      @somedudewatchintv5297 Месяц назад

      I remember hearing about that from Larry Wilmore, I think on his own short lived show.

  • @nikoaugustine5415
    @nikoaugustine5415 Месяц назад +13

    Mortius : take off your headphones
    Casper : **starts beatboxing**

  • @nikkikawaguchi
    @nikkikawaguchi Месяц назад +13

    42:10 - the YESSSSSSSSSS I screamed outloyd when you announced *the next musical* was heard the next street over.
    Legally blonde is SO UNDERRATED.

  • @tynand6827
    @tynand6827 Месяц назад +5

    Me: I've seen and listened this musical so many times I'm not gonna cry
    Also me: *absolutely destroyed sobbing during the entirety of Elisa's part of who lives who dies who tells your story*

  • @archviceroy
    @archviceroy Месяц назад +17

    There’s an older version of “The World Was Wide Enough” that didn’t make the Final Cut (for good reason cause Hamilton’s beat poem is SO much better!) where they go back through all the same points in the 1-10 that Burr just went through but from Hamilton’s point of view. Again, not as good as what we got, but adds some layers of depth to Burr’s verse.

  • @sneakysnekboi3318
    @sneakysnekboi3318 Месяц назад +41

    This brings a different meaning to Burrs song. Mainly one part comes to mind when he sings “Wait for it, wait for it I am the one thing in life I can control “.

  • @yuukinoyuki9064
    @yuukinoyuki9064 Месяц назад +9

    "Di-di-di-di, but I always say I'm from Queens!" is from 'In the Heights'
    "My mom is Dominican-Cuban, my dad is from Chile and P.R. which means:
    I'm Chile-Domini-Curican! But I always say I'm from Queens!"
    Which is still Lin 😂😂😂
    There were definitely some pop and rock songs in musicals before this. But I don't know that there were any raps (outside of Lins works) unless we're saying Sonheim's lyricism rises to rap 😂

  • @edisonlima4647
    @edisonlima4647 Месяц назад +9

    Btw2, The orphanage Eliza Hamilton founded is STILL active and working.
    I can't think of that many people who could be said to have created an institution that lasted through the centuries helping others.

  • @DelliGaming
    @DelliGaming Месяц назад +11

    Today, Hamilton may be over...
    but the Vengeance Saga has just been announced

  • @rveids3126
    @rveids3126 Месяц назад +47

    I finally saw Hamilton live yesterday in Dublin, sobbed at the first note knowing I was actually seeing it live. I started listening to your coverage partially as a countdown to our tickets, so it's fitting that your coverage ends this week as well, thanks for the journey and the insights ❤

  • @richtyty9416
    @richtyty9416 Месяц назад +12

    Glad that all three of us cried instead of me being alone

  • @Sate12
    @Sate12 Месяц назад +11

    I hope Epic has a moving stage, if only for the part of Monster "I lost my best friend, I lost my mentor my mom" with all the people on the wider spinning part

    • @Shopymiau11
      @Shopymiau11 Месяц назад +6

      Well, Jorge said he wanted to present Epic (if he didn't do it in an animation) in a circus, right? Which is like three times cooler, the other day I saw a really good video that showed how Epic could be presented in a circus.

  • @carolinedamgard5855
    @carolinedamgard5855 Месяц назад +40

    Hamilton threw away his shot and Burr didn’t wait for it.

  • @MelissaDiemer-q8l
    @MelissaDiemer-q8l Месяц назад +10

    What i like about this musical is that it doesn't let Alexander entirely off the hook for this duel. It puts some of the blame on Alexander because while burr does shoot him, Alexander is partly to blame as well. Also, it's up for debate whether or not Alexander actually meant or intended to throw his shot even though that's what he wrote in that letter.

  • @AUCreatoer
    @AUCreatoer Месяц назад +48

    These songs makes me sob like a baby.
    I'll name my favorite parts of each song;
    Hamilton remembering Eliza as his last thought. The ensemble singing, "He aims his pistol in the sky!" AND BURR'S "WAIT" HURTS ME SO MUCH ARHHDHGBOGKGOG
    Eliza's whole part in Who Lives, Who Dies, Who Tells Your Story is so good. It's so inspiring and heartwrenching. ESPECIALLY WHEN ELIZA MENTIONED THE ORPHANAGE- NEVER FAILS TO MAKE ME SOB AHH.

    • @Ilovelanguages265
      @Ilovelanguages265 Месяц назад +1

      My dad literally was like “you okay?” Bc I was sobbing like a damn baby, then I ranted to him about the entire last song lol

    • @jonelrobinson582
      @jonelrobinson582 Месяц назад +2

      Yeah Those songs get me in the feels😢

  • @jonathangaming7510
    @jonathangaming7510 Месяц назад +28

    Jonathan groff was probably there in the bows, he just wasnt in the king outfit since he does ensemble during some parts i believe

    • @sashahagerty-lebron7034
      @sashahagerty-lebron7034 Месяц назад +10

      He is there in the ensemble outfit. He stands between lafeyette/jefferson and mulligan/madison.

  • @Happynick88
    @Happynick88 Месяц назад +4

    Mortius trying to remember what dollar bill Hamilton is on (getting it right, of course) when there's a whole lyric at the beginning of the musical about what dollar bill Hamilton is on: "The ten-dollar founding father without a father."

  • @soniakernel754
    @soniakernel754 Месяц назад +3

    Thank you Mortius for explaining what happens when Eliza gasps. I always wondered what that was about. I also love that Eliza's orphanage still exists and we're invited to the show.

  • @fluffydementor
    @fluffydementor Месяц назад +3

    Every damn time. The orphanage... And it's instant tears😭😭😭

  • @KyliaSkydancer
    @KyliaSkydancer 28 дней назад +2

    Eliza appeared on stage and they sung her name and I immediately burst into tears in anticipation of the emotional devastation i was about to face.

  • @disableddragonborn
    @disableddragonborn Месяц назад +3

    Notice how from the second the bullet hits Alexander, there's a heartbeat, but once Burr says "Were both at his side when he died", there's a ring of a bell (it sounds like a church bell to me) and the heartbeat stops.

  • @karamelalb2328
    @karamelalb2328 Месяц назад +5

    Anyways. In the end Burr didn’t wait for it and Hamilton threw away his shot. Which I just find really funny.
    Also in one of the songs the where Hamilton says “I’m not throwing away my shot” the backing vocals sings “just you wait” and later also saying “till the world turns upside down.” After the war these same background vocals sing “the world turned upside down” metaphorically giving Hamilton ‘permission’ to throw away his shot!

  • @KingsBard
    @KingsBard Месяц назад +29

    I'd love to see Casper's reaction to Hamilton in 7 minutes

    • @rainy3577
      @rainy3577 Месяц назад

      Ooh OMG yes. I would love that. And maybe them reacting to first burn and congralutions

  • @renees4577
    @renees4577 Месяц назад +3

    the colors of the ensemble is considered 'parchment'. Not because they're dead, but because they're part of the story. As they assume their characters their clothes change. So much history we weren't taught in schools. The end of the show when their voices join together is a nod to our "official" slogan- "out of Many, One". Loved your reactions!!

  • @ispellitjustg
    @ispellitjustg Месяц назад +3

    LMM points out that the musical is named "Hamilton", and that it does not only tell the story of Alexander Hamilton but also Eliza Hamilton. Also he was on vacation and saw a book on the biography of Alexander, it was light reading for him

  • @marikarasa5106
    @marikarasa5106 Месяц назад +2

    Oh boy, I forgot how hard the "WAIT" in The world was wide enough and the whole Who lives, who dies, who tells your story hits me. I was sobbing without any controllike Mortius.

  • @flyflorida2001
    @flyflorida2001 Месяц назад +5

    The turntable was made famous by Les Miserables, it’s used in many shows, Come From Away is another you should check out with one!

  • @oougahersharr
    @oougahersharr Месяц назад +14

    "Who Lives, Who Dies, Who Tells Your Story" is my favorite song of this musical. To know all she did and we barely know any of this from real history class. (I'm in my fifties.)

  • @gigin6534
    @gigin6534 Месяц назад +5

    31:30 oh, Jonathan was there but he looks so normal without the whole King George get up that we just don't notice 🤣

  • @PanicBasedRiot
    @PanicBasedRiot Месяц назад +2

    Lin was inspired to write hamilton after reading the biography on vacation and realizing A.Ham’s life truly reflected the hip-hop/rap journey experience so it would fit a hip-hop musical

  • @Skye_Writer
    @Skye_Writer Месяц назад +4

    Last comment, I swear, but Mortius, they didn't change OFF stage. If you watch the choreography, focus on the background after Jefferson and Adams give their praise of Hamilton, they come down to the stage, and they are not trying to hide it, the ensemble members help them change into the cream coats of the dead characters. According to Chernow's book, Eliza tried for years to get Alexander's story told, but no biographer was ever able to get through the mountain of his papers.

  • @disableddragonborn
    @disableddragonborn Месяц назад +2

    While we don't only know Alexander's story because of Eliza, we would not know it without her.

  • @tmarends
    @tmarends Месяц назад +18

    Hadestown makes great use of the revolving stage

  • @EdenVix
    @EdenVix Месяц назад +8

    Maaaan, i know they said they'd do first burn and congratulations already but i really hope they also do ten things one thing, i think the insight it gives into Hamilton's thought process is very good and I'm kinda sad they cut it

  • @josiemartinson6538
    @josiemartinson6538 Месяц назад +2

    I’m with you, Mortus. Who lives who dies who tells your story has me in tears and I listen to this like once a week

  • @disableddragonborn
    @disableddragonborn Месяц назад +2

    38:19 They had a spy on the inside so skilled that even audience members didn't catch him.

  • @SourandSassy
    @SourandSassy Месяц назад +2

    Did anyone else notice that this might be the only song that Eliza says she isnt satisfied? She says i lived another 50 years and its not enough....

  • @dizzisliving2355
    @dizzisliving2355 Месяц назад +4

    I got to see Hamilton in person for my nineteenth birthday, by then it wasn't the original cast but it was still incredible. and I'm with you, never leave before all the bowing and such.

  • @voidlinginspace
    @voidlinginspace Месяц назад +3

    No matter how many times I see this, the ending of this Musical will always make me emotional! I am really happy to view you both react to the ending! I would recommend checking out "Hamilton in 7 minutes" by RANGE music as it summarizes the musical in acapella and it is such a fun listen!

  • @joshkruit7858
    @joshkruit7858 Месяц назад +5

    Part of why life expectancy was low was infant and women dying in childbirth, that will skew the numbers, not necessarily because ppl didn't live as long

  • @ceciliasantos7886
    @ceciliasantos7886 Месяц назад +3

    There is a animatic by Ziksua called "Eliza's final song" that has the letter that Hamilton wrote in the beginning before transitioning to "Who lives, Who dies, Who tells your story" and is read by eliza and is beautiful
    P.S.: It's a shortened version of the actual letter Hamilton wrote Eliza as a goodbye

  • @B.A.G.Is.A.Beginner
    @B.A.G.Is.A.Beginner Месяц назад +2

    The show is called Hamilton not Alexander Hamilton, The show was about Eliza and Alexander

  • @kyelgray162
    @kyelgray162 Месяц назад +2

    It's crazy how this show blew up after I went to see it. I will always be grateful i went into it blind. The best thing my school ever did for me. We even had a private Q and A with the cast (OG) after the show

  • @Shanerz21
    @Shanerz21 29 дней назад +1

    Most Broadway theaters have TV monitors facing the stage (like on the mezzanine/balcony) with a camera on the conductor so he can conduct both the music and a capella pieces to keep tempo. ♥

  • @Randomner2562
    @Randomner2562 28 дней назад +1

    When I went to see Hamilton in London there was a couple in front of me and the woman clearly knew the show inside out whereas the man was going in blind. At the interval she turned to him and was like “the first act is all gearing up, war and action. The second act is all pain”
    She was not wrong.

  • @amaliamorris7164
    @amaliamorris7164 Месяц назад +2

    Would love if you guys could watch the animatic for who lives who dies who tells your story. It drew so much tears from me

  • @laurenm.7264
    @laurenm.7264 Месяц назад +3

    Two things- My high school had a moving stage. But it was different. The front half ( we called it the pit) moved up and down . Which might be something completely different and more common...But I remember being so fascinated with it especially when we would use it .( I was in the theatre magnet , choir , orchestra so we used it quite a bit ).
    2nd - I understand . It's how I and I'm sure a lot of people felt about The Big Bang Theory ( TBBT) and Young Sheldon (YS). Watching YS you knew at the end that his dad was going to die because it already spoke on it plenty of times in TBBT but even when it happened it was so heartbreaking especially because the character in YS was much more likeable than they made him to be in TBBT... anyway I digress.
    I enjoyed the breakdown of my favorite musical ❤!

    • @laurenm.7264
      @laurenm.7264 Месяц назад

      I wrote my comment before finishing the video to see you come back and talk about the Pit lol . I guess it is more common than I thought, I know our high school was the only one around the surrounding schools that we had visited.

  • @dragansnyder2786
    @dragansnyder2786 Месяц назад +4

    Also one last thing, the world was wide enough, is actually based on something that Burr said later in his life, but the interesting thing about it is, burr doesn't ever seem to show remorse for what he did to Hamilton, and that quote is representative of the only time he even remotely came close to feeling sorry about it, (and it's not even like burr could justify it by saying that the point of a duel is to kill your opponent, people were killed in duels, but it usually wasn't the point of the duel, usually it would end before anyone shot just like the play says, and most of the time if they did shoot the other person would take a non-fatal wound) there is a separate rant to be had about a duel that happened Hamilton's lifetime, Hamilton helped expose something called the Conway cabal, it was some sort of plot to overthrow George Washington as general of the Continental forces, Thomas Conway is called to a duel over this affair, and he is shot directly in the mouth, but he survives (you remember the quip from Hamilton in reference to Charles Lee, where he said that "John should have shot him in the mouth, that would have shut him up" yeah that' was apparently based on the words of the person who shot Thomas Conway, history is wild sometimes man,) sorry for the side tangent, there are just so many fun Easter eggs in this play that after I talk about one another strikes me in the head and I feel compelled to share it. Edit: okay so looking up what actually happened to Thomas Conway, he is a medical miracle, I told you the part about him getting shot in the mouth, but it gets even crazier, it apparently went out the back of his head and lodged itself in his hair (And Thomas Conway somehow managed to live another 17 years, hopefully he was able to live comfortably, because the prospect of surviving something like that in the 1700s is kind of terrifying to contemplate, first off I don't even see how it was possible for them to treat him and even if they could keep him alive I don't see how he wouldn't have lived every day in agony, I really need to find more in depth information about this man)

  • @ms_scribbles
    @ms_scribbles Месяц назад +6

    There's no way to confirm or deny the eyewitness report, and it was from a guy who was on Hamilton's side on the day of the duel, but Hamilton apparently told his companions that he had his glasses on NOT to aim better, but to be able to see Burr's face to see if Burr was having second thoughts.

    • @ms_scribbles
      @ms_scribbles Месяц назад +2

      Oh, and again the musical is very generous towards Burr. In the musical, Burr says he tried to go to Hamilton, but was ushered away and then went for a drink with a tone in his voice like he's sad. In reality, he went to a bar to drink with friends and was so happy and carefree at the bar that *none* of the friends he met there knew he'd just killed a man. They were shocked to find out later what he'd done because of how nonchalant he was while hanging out with them.

    • @ms_scribbles
      @ms_scribbles Месяц назад

      Yeah, Les Miserables does some really fantastic work with the moving stage, like the big barricade scene where they spin the entire barricade around to see one of the student soldiers splayed out on the other side of the barricade with the red revolutionary flag draped along it next to him after the battle with the royal army is lost. It's just...jawdropping.

    • @ms_scribbles
      @ms_scribbles Месяц назад +3

      Unfortunately, people like Jefferson, Madison and his other political enemies worked as hard as they could to destroy Hamilton's memory. It's actually all thanks to Eliza that we know anything about him at all. If she had either passed earlier or had ended up still bitter at Alexander for what he did, she wouldn't have saved and protected his writings, or recorded the memories of people who fought and worked with him.

  • @disableddragonborn
    @disableddragonborn Месяц назад +2

    18:38 That is not a terrible analogy, it's a hilarious analogy.

  • @oceanwaves4390
    @oceanwaves4390 Месяц назад +2

    Something that makes the line "if I throw away my shot, is this how you'll remember me?" worse is that before I saw this musical, the only thing I knew about either of them is that Burr shot Hamilton in a duel & Hamilton had his gun in the air. Aaaaaaaah

  • @boomgirlbucko
    @boomgirlbucko Месяц назад +3

    8:44 I think Casper meant Washington lol

  • @disableddragonborn
    @disableddragonborn Месяц назад +1

    18:55 That would be the best use of the rotating stage. 🤣

  • @CalmSanity
    @CalmSanity Месяц назад +3

    I'm so excited for legally blonde the Musical!!! It is one of my favorites for sure!

  • @nikayalohr9707
    @nikayalohr9707 Месяц назад +12

    I used Hamilton's last lines as an audition monologue a few years ago - I nailed it, I think

  • @ezraabbadon5082
    @ezraabbadon5082 Месяц назад +1

    0:16
    Today we are finishing off hamilton.
    That phrasing though.

  • @TrustyToast
    @TrustyToast Месяц назад +2

    Jonathan Groff changed outfit. He stood between Jefferson and Madison

  • @darkness_hound1375
    @darkness_hound1375 Месяц назад +3

    14:43 I'm doing my final investigation project for school about this musical, so I've looked too much into its lyricism. This note isn't about the theme it's going to be about so it will be left out, so I wanted to share it in here:
    In "Aaron Burr, sir", the first meeting between Hamilton and Burr, Burr says to Hamilton "Can I get you a drink?". And here, once Hamilton is gone, he says "I get a drink", completely mortified. It could have been completely accidental, but there's something that screams inside of me when I hear the "same sentence" with one less person because they aren't there anymore. I'm not sure if I'm explaining it well, I might have lost my sanity after the 10th rewatch with the most excrutinity I could muster😅

  • @fletcherspears
    @fletcherspears Месяц назад +2

    You could make an argument that Eliza Hamilton is the title character. She is the one who lived, and she told the story. That is why she is last song.

  • @wulfinw63
    @wulfinw63 Месяц назад +10

    With them being in white at the end, it allows them to play both characters without need for costume change!

  • @StormTalara
    @StormTalara Месяц назад +1

    I note that casper spoke of the actors keeping tempo while the music is not playing and when the orchestra knows when to come in, but the conductor in a musical also conducts the singing performances as well as the orchestra, so they will still be keeping tempo so the orchestra knows when to come in again. 😁

  • @kavtoM
    @kavtoM Месяц назад +1

    I will always be thankful to Hamilton for introducing me to Daveed Diggs. His own music is phenomenal. My favourite rapper today.

  • @kctoygacha5069
    @kctoygacha5069 Месяц назад +9

    15:20
    Hadestown uses a moving stage!

    • @nuadize
      @nuadize Месяц назад

      Right, the first musical I thought of was a German musical - Elisabeth, also a historical musical where the title character dies at the end (spoilers)

  • @unkown_furby7841
    @unkown_furby7841 Месяц назад +2

    I love the version of the story lin goes with here because it gives it so much more emotion. But it is still unclear what happened during the dual and if hamilton's shot hiting the tree was on purpose. The shots were also within a couple seconds but they dont know who actually shot first. But both guns were shot.

  • @mgailp
    @mgailp Месяц назад

    Thank you, Moritus, for saying the house lights came up for Eliza's cry. That makes me look at it differently. Previously I thought it was representing the moment he died.

  • @Half_an_orphan
    @Half_an_orphan Месяц назад +1

    Daveed Digs said in an interview that Lin did actually write Lafayette and Thomas for him specifically. He said that it’s the only reason he even got into theater, and will be the first and last musical he ever does.
    *Also, I highly recommend Starkid musicals, specifically the Hatchetfield trilogy-The Guy Who Didn’t Like Musicals, Black Friday, and Nerdy Prudes Must Die

  • @stacycanzoneri3563
    @stacycanzoneri3563 Месяц назад +2

    While it doesn't take away how incredible these performers are, a good portion of the time, there are screens in eye view of the stage that show the conductor so that the cast can see what they are doing without having to look down. It's still very difficult, especially with a rotating stage that might take you out of view of those screens, but I thought it should at least be mentioned.