Finally! The Michael Kidd Gilchrist stunted growth story! What Happened?
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- Опубликовано: 13 июл 2024
- Finally. The Michael Kidd Gilchrist stunted growth story. I’ve been reluctant to feature this guy because contrary to the feel it gives, this is not a bust channel. Not because you’ve had a growth stunt mean you weren’t or can’t become a great player, and person. Although I do have an ultimate bust series, featuring hall of fame bust level talent if you enjoy that. Should Kidd Gilchrist be included in that series? But before that, we have to understand the heights he was able to reach in the game of basketball that even created those expectations in the first place. How’d he become the second overall pick in the NBA draft? Ahead of Allstars Bradley Beal, Andre Drummond, Draymond Green, Chris Middleton and Damian Lillard, who’s a clear cut future HOF player along with Green, Beal and possibly Middleton. Well, he became a budding star in high school playing a secondary role to Kyrie Irving as a sophomore and Irving a junior. By his senior year, many scouting services ranked him top 3 in the nation and some even as high as #1. He was Mr basketball USA in 2011, McDonald’s all American and one of the stars for an HBO documentary. To beef his draft stock, he was Co MVP in the all American game and won a gold medal in the fiba under17 world championships. After being all everything in high school, he committed to Kentucky along with 2 of the top 5 recruits and 4 other future NBA players including Anthony Davis. They won the National Championship giving famed coach John Calipari his first championship. This is how Kidd Gilchrist did it, and this is why he was reached for at #2 overall, when all the signs suggested he needed a lot of work and definitely not that caliber of player. Here are 3 reasons he’s known and an ultimate bust, finessed the league and his growth was stunted. Finally! The Michael Kidd Gilchrist stunted growth story! What Happened?
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Do you think If MKG was picked later he would've turned out different?
Possibly. Could have turned out worse to you never really know. Moral of the story is always do everything in your power to succeed and you will
No MKG was not skilled offensively he was just athletic & a hustle player his time at Kentucky hid his weakness btw I like the questions added.
Do Josiah Turner!
A Five Star Recruit who played for Arizona. He rather be a thug.
No his skill set is what it is he had 8 plus yrs and never got better at some point you have to say he didn't put in the work or his skills is what it was average at best he was a role player that luck out and got drafted in the top 5
Have you ever done a video on yourself? I'm just curious . If I'm not mistaken I remember you mentioning you played basketball.
I knew MKG wasn't going to pan out at all. He was a hustler who had a great motor. Everything about him was effort. Salute to him for making it that far.
I would rather be Crowder. Useful everywhere he goes.
I love Crowder, one of my favorite guys in the league. Fits in any system, always gives you what he's got. A genuine tough guy, unlike all the frauds who pretend to be tough picking on smaller guys (Marcus Morris I'm looking at you)
Crowder trash. I saw him for yrs with the mavs use his muscles to shoot threes
@@jackprice3248 Definitely not trash. 3 and D guy, solid rotational player. My Heat missed him this year that's for sure.
Except Cleveland.
@@marlon8095 Other than LeBron, there is nothing good about Cleveland. So I don't hold that against Crowder.
I swear I can't watch MKG shoot, I'm scared that I will mess up my jumpshot only by watching that form 😁
Almost 10 years later, I'm still completely shocked and baffled as to how mkg made it all the way to the league through aau/high school / college and not a single coach / trainer refined his shooting form. Mind boggling 🤯
He had everything else and those coaches only care about winning. The worst thing I did was played high school basketball played me out of position for 3 years.
@@Bearsfan15654
Not learning proper English might be your worst move bro
MKG always played big. You can see it with what little offensive repertoire he has (offensive rebounding, short mid baby hooks, close range jumpers). He should've always been an undersized 4 but Charlotte drafted PFs three drafts in a row. The jumper was always going to be a work in progress and everyone knew it at the time. Charlotte really just drafted him because he was a workhorse and they thought he could start a culture shift, not looking into what his personality coming out of college was (and because they thought they were getting AD after probably the worst season in NBA history).
Oh and Mark Price kind of left him for dead midway through promising to fix his jumper so take that how you will. There was improvement in the area right before Price left and then he got hurt. He reverted to the janky inward elbow again after coming back.
Clifford is probably the only coach who ever believed in his strengths, letting him crash the glass with reckless abandon and letting him post up a bit when opposing teams hide small guards on him. The moment Clifford left, Borrego just put him in the doghouse, never used him and then he got waived.
Same. I never saw the allure of him and his skill set. Either way he made it so I salute him
Probably broken beyond repair. Never seen anything like it before lol. Worse than Bill Cartwright’s form.
I’m going to hold this L. I was the biggest MKG Stan there was.
I used to put him at PG n kill wit him on 2K
I was too
MKG forms an L when he shoots
I’d like to say sorry you have to deal with him being trash
(on offense)
Felt this on a spiritual level. Just can never seem to give up on the dude
The one thing I can say for sure is his defense was and still would have been the main reason he got to make it to the nba, because man that jumpshot is telling of his offensive game. I could not in anyway understand how that jumpshot was never fully fixed.
Hands down he's in the top 2 all-time worst shooting forms I've ever seen
Who's 1
@@seanlamar29 Shawn marlon
@@Rieky22 wrong. Bill cartwright had the worst form. Lol
Marions released looks good to me honestly,it's his form that is a little mess up.
Don’t forget Joakim Noah
When they were stacked. Kentucky had this twice. Remember the platooning that Devin Booker the Harrison twins, trey lyles and other had too do on that stacked Kentucky squad
harrison twins playin over Booker and Ulis at end of Wisconsin game in final four costed em a perfect season
@@joshjones8411 SAY IT LOUDER...
@@joshjones8411 nah, Booker and Ulis were abused on defense. They lose regardless.
@@joshjones8411 facts. Those Kentucky teams were stacked
I still to this Day don’t know how in the hell we ( The Charlotte Hornets ) didn’t get the number one pick an why in the hell did we Draft him number fucking 2🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Facts. To this day I still think the Pelicans (or NO Hornets at the time) was basically giving the #1 by Stern after Benson bought the team.
Nah the Hornets competed hard asf. They were the worst team but they still played hard. I believe if Charlotte competed, they would’ve gotten a shot at AD.
@@KingofAwesome09 if we would’ve gotten the number one pick who u think we would’ve drafted , now keeping him is a different story
@@k.t.harmon343 oh no doubt. I think him and Kemba would’ve been a nice pair but I do believe that he would’ve left. I think the Pels & Hornets have very similar management tactics, and being that they’re smaller markets, free agents are harder to come by.
Crazy to think about the the Hornets was supposed to draft Bradley Beal. Him and Kemba in that backcourt. 😯
MKG the heart and soul of the 2012 National Championship Kentucky Team. I so wanted and still want for him to succeed in the League due to how hard my guy plays!!!
I really feel like Charlotte thought he'd be the next Gerald Wallace due to the position he plays and his defensive mindset
Wallace was sick from the moment he touched down at Bama. There’s plenty of guys in the league that can jump as high or higher, but few have displayed the explosiveness in combination. MKG can’t even touch Wallace’s rookie year highlights in SAC.
@@zeroturn7091 Agreed. That's what made him so great in Charlotte during his playing days. I was hoping the would've built a solid team around him but it wasn't meant to be. They could have been a threat if they kept certain the roster back in 2010
Great comparison
@@CornellHaley22
That playoff team would hv done better if it wasn't for Coach Brown
Wallace developed a respectable jump shot towards the later half of his career
He has made over $72 million dollars. He’s good 😂😂😂😂
Exactly! Makes this whole video irrelevant.
72 mill is plenty, but imagine if he didn't have to face oppression every day, maybe he could have made more.
Definitely eating good 😎
@@bolsbolbol368 imagine if you weren't a sensitive pxssy...maybe you would get some
@@bolsbolbol368 What oppression? He played in the NBA for 8 years! If anything, not developing his offensive skills is why he didn't make more money.
His jumper looks like it hurts😭 but forreal how does his form even get to that point of bad
It doesn't look like it hurts, it actaully does hurt me watching it.
Can we please get Raef LaFrentz one day. Him and Pierce were filthy back at Kansas in the mid to late 90s.
Facts!
Be careful you showing your age
@@frankpoleski5423 what?
@@newenglandhustler8200 your old sir if your talking about raef lafrentz
@@frankpoleski5423 lol you will be his age one day too
Dude had great college teammates. After that championship, he practically snuck into the league off of “potential.”
We often hear about players from the 80's or 90's would fit much better in today's game, but I think MKG would do better in the 90's where defensive efforts were more emphasized over shooting and scoring. Coaches like Pat Riley and Chuck Daily would love to have him on their teams.
He is the perfect Larry Brown player
Do Jared Sullinger man. Dude was a beast on the Celtics
Mannn i had such high praise for that guy. I was hoping he would see his potential thru because, like you said, that dude was a beaaaast
You mean in college
When???? U mean at OSU bruh?
If by beast you mean out of shape then ya, but he did not live up to potential
@@Tdavis_413 i think he meant on 2K (All-Star setting)
I’ve been waiting on this.
MKG went exactly where he should’ve went in the top 5 where all the experts and scouts had him going. He played in the NBA for 9 seasons and made a lot of money. If he’s considered a bust then I would love to be in that situation.
Momma’s cooking
Get the bag for you n your family for life
@@terrancemcclendon456 that’s what’s it’s about the bag .
"I wish I was a bust." 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣yeah, ok.
Can we do a stunted growth on James McAdoo?
He was soooooo overhyped
The year he got 12.7PPG he got hurt. He only played 7 games that year. Injury will always be the biggest stunt in a player’s growth. Being healthy is the most important thing to prevent growth stunts
He's definitely blessed to play that long in the NBA with his lack of talent as well as production
A few names for you, that I can't remember if you've done yet: Bill Walker, Nolan Smith, Nerlens Noel, Jared Sullinger, Gerald Green, Shaun Livington, Korleon Young, Leon Smith, Taj McDavid, Reggie Bullock, Harrison Barnes, Brandan Wright, Daquan Cook, Derrick Caracter, Randolph Morris and Jordan Farmar
Bill Walker was a beast
I feel like MKG growth wasn’t stunted. He became exactly who is was probably always going to be. He has some special physical gifts, but also had some very big weak points. In the long run, MKG had a fairly long 8 year NBA career and made starter money for most of that. That’s the best case scenario for his level of talent. He got picked high because some teams have the hubris to think they can fix any flaw, which isn’t true. Really, the only stunted growth in this story is that of the Charlotte basketball team due to management.
Facts. Jordan is a terrible scout/drafter
He was great in college though, tbf.
I like to see him as a taller Shawn marion literally especially with his horrendous jumpshot probably should fashioned his game to the matrix.
Shawn Marion shot over 81% from the line and 48% from the field that's better numbers then Curry. He shot was Nasty but it was Money. 15ppg and 8rpg in his career stats. MKG was nowhere close to that lmaooo
@@marcuseversley3334 I said especially with his horrendous JUMPSHOT. and Marion was more for a defensive purpose than offense
@@jayalpha4856 Marcus is right
@@niggato23 dawg I'm not talking about the percentage I'm talking about the form they both are dog shit terrible
@@jayalpha4856 True
He’s not even 30 and he’s out of the league already sad:( I really liked this player
He'll be good, hes in a position to use his 8 years of NBA experience to get another contract playing in either a A high profile Euroleague team, China CBA team or even a NBA team that's looking to fill up the bench. All within the 7 figure range (1 million to 2 million max).
I grew up here in jersey and I remember it seemed like his spot in the pros, was solidified by his freshman year of HS. He was 6"5 then and they were projecting him to be 6'10-7ft by Senior year. Despite the rankings and success, I feel like everybody in Jersey knew was it was, and wasn't expecting him to be an Allstar
What’s up bro !!
that first clip told me everything I needed to know 🤦🏾♂️
No way he should have went top 5 in the draft
Exactly that was a major red flag 🚩
on god idk what scouts be thinking sometimes
@@jessiahbethea9004 Meaning these agents are great at selling a lot of these below average NBA players to lottery picks.
He was the 2nd overall pick because of William Wesley. WWW was the UK connect & was the Bobcat connect. WWW repped Coach Cal & Jordan. Hence MKG’s route.
I was actually about to write this. Www is mkg godfather
@@mikeharris9938 nah Bruh, just grew up across the street from his peeps when they all were youngins, NO RELATION AT ALL
@@williamkidd7968 that's what a godfather means my brother, someone close to the child but of no relation.
@@orderofgrandpuba LOL...I know what it means brother but the comment was to add an exclamation on the fact there is NO connection, blood or otherwise
That first clip sums it all up.
That jumper form looks crazy, holy sh*t!! 😂. Also gonna need a finesse CEO t shirt stunted! 😂
I’d take the Jae Crowder career. Jae might get a ring now and I know he’s been on a lot of teams but I think that speaks to how great of a role player he is. What is MKG great other than being a bust? Finessing contracts but that’s really his agent so…
No ring this year for Crowder, and MKG's career earnings are still about $18M higher than Crowder's. I'll take MKG's career if Crowder doesn't sign a decent contract or win a ring before he retires.
Hurt tweener: Manimal Kenneth Faried, LaPhonso Ellis, Rodney Rogers, Jared Sullivan, Anthony Bennett,Gabe Muoneke, Mike Beasley, Perry Jones(probably more I can't think of rn); Helped tweener: D. Rodman, Draymond, Giannis, KG, Anthony Mason, PJ Tucker, KD
Add to the helped: Barkley and Larry Johnson
@@chrisisslick yessir forgot my kinfolk Grandmama
“What do you bring to a team offensively?”
MKG: Nothing
Me dunk good
@@louyork8379 idk if he even did that after 2 years
Good question you asked about high school because Dante exam showed out in the under 17 world tournament look at him now he was supposed to the next kobe
Rasheed Wallace and Juwan Howard!
Stunt #4 : getting paid 4/52 and STILL not improving your shot. Bro this was a great video
I don’t comment often, but I just wanted to reach out and say what an amazing job you do on your videos. It’s hardly understood the work and research it takes to do videos like this. Keep up the good work!
Thank you man. That means so much 💯
@@stuntedgrowth Great content again Bro!!! Have you done one on Malcolm Delaney, from Virginia Tech yet?
Florida State would have been perfect for him to develop with the experience that program had with long, athletic players. I get why he went to Kentucky for draft prospects, but he could have had both development and stock at FSU.
Your videos never disappoint my man 💯 🏀
“Shooting like Tory Lanez my guy”😂😂😂
Michael Olowankandi and Jon konkac were the total finessers too
damn how can you not learn how to shoot? you'd rather choose a Tony Allen shooting form or a Ray Allen form? these players don't know who they watching back in the day
Dope channel bro!! I subbed after one video
I asked you for this months ago thanks stunted growth
Salute stunted growth💯
I like your take on certain situations, you have a very good insight on things, maybe you should be on tv
Remember MKG made 2 bets a different times. 1st was with Kemba Walker and he lost and had to wear UConn gear. 2nd bet was with Marvin Williams and lost again had to don UNC gear.
He didn’t have any type of offense skill so everytime he’s was on the court it was a 5v4 & only was just athletic that’s about it tbh
Having no jumper just closed off all his options on offense. Even though we get on Ben, he’s 6’10 and can easily just be a big man. MKG being only 6’7...he just didn’t belong
The hand / arm position on the jumper is horrendous. Darn shame he didn't bother to fix it.
Wow what a opening clip he had no answer to his offensive production
Damn this is the most I've heard this guy go off on a player. He talked about him getting his finesse on
My question to any coach or trainer respectfully that was training or coaching MKG pre NBA and while in the NBA, what was you teaching him? To MJ respectfully, what did you see that we didn’t? These are my real questions I have because I’ve watched just about all his college and NBA games from day 1 I never seen the hype and I really try to find the the smallest part of someone’s game that can be elite if developed but I’ve never seen it in MKG. I’ve been waiting on this one.
@@GDCDGC But 2nd pick overall? Idk the people that make these decisions is clearly not capable because they miss way to much on obvious weaknesses of these players.
Do one on Gerald Henderson from the Bobcats. Dude had springs, could get 15 a game but disappeared outta nowhere
I fw Gerald Henderson tough. Used to kill mtfs on 2k wit him
Hip problems
@@vershawnsea9219 dead ass
@@vershawnsea9219bro his middy was wet
We got to shine more light on the teams and culture that these kids are being drafted to. The draft is unfair at times giving the worse teams the best odds. Clearly there culture isnt good for development most times. They tend to get these high draft picks and turn these players in to bust. Then by the time their traded they already have developed bad habits.
The thing that still baffles me about the NBA after decades of being a fan is how bad team building and talent evaluation is. It wasn't hard to see from my couch that MKG was mid to late round experiment. NBA teams spend alot on personel to get these things right. What games are these people watching?
have you ever thought about doing a series on low draft picks who unexpectedly had All Star or HOF careers? just asking
Yup ultimate growth stunts
I’d love to see one on Tony Parker and Manu Ginobilli
He has some videos that are called growth spurts check them out on his page
He did this a little bit during his early videos but he's been stopped. He should go back to it.
How does a coach or the player not correct that jump shot?
Bro why you never did a video covering James Michael Mcadoo stunted growth?
His shoulder injury against orlando in preseason really changed his playstyle, i remember seeing it and had my hands on my head man :(
The Bobcats had a great shooting coach that was working with MKG but the coach took a Head Coaching job at a college & MKG regressed
I died when u said "what is this bro??"💀💀
The beginning of the vid was too funny!
If he chose FL St or Villanova, I think this story ends much better. It was clear his game needed a ton of work to play the wing. How the hell do you ignore that funky form on that jumpshot??
He didn't have to shoot in college because they had players to fill that role
True that , but at some point his form was revealed and a scout should have had concerns, imo
He had a long career. Salute to the finesse. 😂😂😂
Did you do Chris Douglas-Roberts yet?
Yes
When you said how do you even have a form like this, with the slowmo i cried and died😂💀
He was nice at Kentucky though lets be real very unique talent
Stunted Growth MJ reaching picking him 2nd overall when he clearly wasn’t a 2nd overall talent
I'm a UNC fan, and I remember there was a St. Patricks game from 2009 on demand, and I was at my mom's house, and Dexter Strickland, who was a UNC commit was in that game, and I wanted to see him, so I turned it on. MKG was in tenth grade then, and I had no clue who he was, and after a while, I stopped watching Dexter, (who was not all that impressive) and just focused on him, because I just couldn't believe how hard this kid played. His motor truly never stopped, and I remember after the game, I looked online and saw that he was the second ranked player in the class of 2011, and I thought "Ah, this makes sense now." I always LOVED his motor...not necessarily his overall game because of that awful hitch in his shot, but I always believed that he'd at least be a good NBA player for the simple fact that he played so unbelievably hard all the time. While that motor always burned hot, and still does, that offensive game never developed, and he never could get that shot together, which really lead to his downfall in the league. But, shoutout to him for getting as far as he did with a pretty limited skill set.
Damn that draft class was deep and recruiting class mkg came out was so deep
notice how all his college highlights are layups and dunks lmaoooo
I think that shoulder tear did it to him. He fixed his form and shot 40 percent from 3 for like 7 games which would've went down of course. Then he tore that shoulder and his form reverted, he could've been a respectable role player had he fixed that. He played very good D in fact when he showed that chart you see it right there. He could've been like a 12ppg scorer with some rebounding and defense
Been preaching this, his shoulder Injury really sapped him of his athletic finishing, complete changed his game
we need vin baker and marcus liberty would be good for this stunted growth
I concur on Vin Baker. He had a nice career overall
Vin Baker is an Olympic Gold Medalist and multiple all star, though.
Having Coach Cal and World Wide Wes as his supporters played a huge role in him getting picked that high.
Nah man that intro is wild😭😭😭
Even as a high school sophomore I remember watching kentucky and said he's only going top 5 because of A.D and the blue brand 🔵.
Jarvis Hayes next please
Ooh good one!
Villanova should of been the school he should have went to being that jay wright is great coach and how that program develops players for the Nba
A lot of kids can fit into this after Paul George and K.Leonard developed from long defenders into scorers teams started looking for that.
It’s why Justice Winslow was so coveted.
Had high hopes for him coming to Charlotte, then the injury it went all downhill from there
He was better than alot of ppl that were considered busts his jumper was just horrible 😂😂😂
I remember him in high school and college. He was tough.
Biggest finesse in basketball history
Ain’t NO FINESSE! The HOUSE ALWAYS WINS!
Never forget MKG got chosen over:
Beal
Lillard
Barnes
Davis
Drummond
Davis went first but you also forgot Draymond
That opening segment was crucial, goddamn.
The question- I Would look at a school if they are stacked. Then I’m looking at stats and what he did. If he’s by himself. Then I’m looking at what he could do on the floor. What matters in high school I don’t care unless your Darius garland and got injured early in the season
I thought he couldve been another Iggy but I think the shoulder injury destroyed his confidence too
Im so glad other people see what I saw, his shoulder injury really affected his game
when a 5'7" dude who aint last a season in college ball can say with full confidence "yea, ima beat this guy in a shooting contest".... you in trouble
Prayer for a perfect season was an unreal documentary I wish I could find it online
And please do a Nick Young vid thought he was going to he a star when he came into the league he showed alot of flashes
I thought the same...
He wasn’t good. It was at a time when teams liked defenders and they took this bust smh
You better not call him a bust... He will wait 20 years and complain about it
@@hannibalburgess7517 you a weirdo . That man stayed quiet for years and when he finally speak up it’s a problem
@@dennisthemenace855 no that's a coward... You probably was a nerd .. Bullied growing up right 🤔 now that you can talk behind the safety of a computer.. Now you have balls foh
Great Episode...SCOOONIE PENN NEXT... STOP FRONTIN ON ME STUNTED GROWTH LOL...☝️😎
He's done Scoonie Penn...
@@mistermann3225
He did? Must be recent
@@bluehill2895 Yeah, but it's an old vid. You gotta scroll through his vids. If you look hard enough, you will find it
Devin Booker is the prime reason I don't look at college stats I underestimated him
So did I. And it wasn't even just about the stat. He was a little fat around the midsection and he didn't really have much of a handle. But you never can tell who has the great work ethic and who doesn't.
i played against this guy , gave my squad COMPLETE HELL!! for 48 whole minutes with a smile on .
James Harden is a greatly unrated tweener because he play either guard position effectively.
I grew up with him, He’s from Somerdale New Jersey I’m from the next town over in Magnolia New Jersey. Were about 10 to 15 minutes away from Philadelphia and we weren’t best friends or anything but I knew him and from a young age everyone knew he was going to go to the NBA I really thought he was going to be better than Anthony Davis
Like Jordan once said “NBA players today are paid on their potential not their body of work”