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Playoff Struggles: Is James Harden Washed ALREADY? Stunted Growth
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- Опубликовано: 16 авг 2024
- After 6 hall of fame co stars, 2 of them twice, and 13 failed post season runs, it might be past safe to say James Harden is not the same player in the playoffs as he is in the regular season. As the leader of the team he’s led 1 team to the conference finals, overshadowed by a mix of injury and meltdowns when teams finally have a chance to lock in on him for a series and experiment with different schemes to defend until something works. As Harden elevated his regular season play to legendary levels year after year, broke records scoring and shooting, transcended the step back 3, won an MVP and even once had the league so confused on defense that players would have to guard him with their hands behind their backs, it’s evident that he’s not that player and his style officially won’t lead to a championship with his new co star the clear leader of his current team the Philadelphia 76ers going into Harden’s 33rd year in age. Is it safe to say James Harden is WASHED? Stunted Growth
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Do you see James Harden winning a championship, or will he go ringless?
He will go ringless
If harden doesn't make the changes improve on being a better play maker and on defense step up in the playoffs also working out if not harden will be ringless sad for me to say it
He a get a ring. His Jeweler got something for him on deck
He will go ringless sadly.
Ringless
Please make one about Shareef Abdur-Rahim, one of the best but forgotten players whose talent was wasted on struggling lottery teams and only made the playoff once. He was a very skilled and talented player in his time.
one of the sickest names in the NBA as well
Facts
real shit. He had a lot of game. Also in the 96 draft. salute 💯💯
The league hated him
@@bblwarrantydepartment981 in what way? He was even a low key player.
I truly believe the addition of mike as his coach further encouraged this predictable play style. His first two years in Houston we saw the okc version of his game where he wasn’t so predictable. So many times in critical situations I’ve seen him go for a 3 or try to kick it out when a layup is right there for him. It’s either those two or straight up try to draw a cheap foul instead of taking the simple mid range shot we all know he’s capable of making. The simple stuff like taking a mid range to stop the bleeding was what made Chris Paul so effective for the rockets when he was there.
i agree. he played differently under mchale imo. He wasn't gonna let him away with whatever he wanted
Great comment
Rockets fan here. I still can't get over his Game 6 performance vs the Spurs in 2017 smh. It literally looked like he was throwing the game
He was. That’s why He makes Mega Millions
Same with CP3 & everyone else.
To make that $ You get to be a Super Star
But not A GOAT .
Only certain 1’s get that
The rest have to get hamstring injuries in the playoffs while walking yr after yr
Or else they all of a sudden as an NBA Player can’t shoot the pill anymore
“ OMG …. Look @ “ WestBrick” now ! “
Yea , an NBA MVP Stud can’t even hit the rim anymore.
It’s obviously all apart of the script
But it’s cool
Someone has to play the fool
It’s all apart of the show
There has to be drama , good guys , bad guys , Winners , Losers , Guys that just can’t get the job done
Even though they’re in The NBA
These Dudes have No issues with getting The Job Done
These Dudes train nonstop to get here
They’re mentally stronger than %98 of the world to even get there in the 1st place
They’re already on some other ish
@@CSDonohue11 so who's winning this year?
@@CSDonohue11 Westbrook could never really shoot so that part of your rant really made no sense
Did you see his last game in Philly/Playoffs? He definitely looked like he was trying to throw that game. 😏
@@thankyoujodi
All the analytics since before the playoffs started have all said Celtics .
He’s the perfect embodiment of doing well in the regular season but folding under pressure when it matters the most in the playoffs.
💯💯💯
I agree
The Payton Manning no better yet Ryan Tannahill of the nba
@@domdolaratchi7605 at least manning won championships
Demar DeRozan
He appears to be more concerned with stats than actually winning. He's had some tough injuries but he consistently doesn't show up for big games in the playoffs. It's a shame he never realized his full potential.
Oh, please.
If he doesn't show up in the playoffs, how is he the only guy ever to take that Invincible Durant Warriors 7 games?
Last year was the hamstring injury, you can't play with a severe injury like that.
This year, it's a new system, he can't play iso ball anymore.
Why don't you hate on the right guy? For example, in game 6 that's Embiid who missed 17 out of 24 shots.
@@markarmage3776 You mean the Rockets right? Because the minute CP3 went down that team completely collapsed
Also Embiid had a facial injury this year
@@markarmage3776 CP3 was the real leader in that playoff run against the Warriors. The moment he got hurt, Harden choked again.
@@akin242002 Is that so? Is that how CP3 played horribly in game 1 and 2 and James Harden had to take over for them to equal against Golden States?
Stop the nonsensical narrative, darling.
Harden average more assists, more rebounds, more points, more minutes than Chris Paul.
It's Trevor Ariza who choked, going 0 for 12, not James Harden. Harden went 2 for 13 from 3 but he also went 10 for 16 from 2, plus 7 free throws.
Go learn some math, pal.
@@drasconboy6349 If you have a facial injury, don't take all the shots, missed all of them and then blame the other guy. Go learn some math, pal.
No, when Chris Paul went down, the team is undermanned, Paul is an important player, without James Harden, Paul would've been swept by that Warriors team. But without Paul, Harden would still take the series at least 6 games. Because when Paul played horrible in game 2, it's James Harden who saved his ass to equalize the series. Go learn some math, kid.
I would love to see you do a growth spurt episode on Udonis Haslem.... the dude went undrafted in 2002, went overseas, showed up as a 6'6 300lb power forward but lost 50 pounds in 8 month while keeping his schedule on a US time zone... signed with the heat in 2003 and has been there ever since.
And his growth was stunted??!?!?
@@danielgoldberg5587 no no no growth SPURT.... its the inverse one that stunted does
@@yeahrell hey man he did his thing on the 06 championship run lol
Thank yooouuu!! He benefitted from this era of ball. And They already put Him in the HOF conversation but left out Dwight Howard. I always thought that he's highly overrated.
Very him Westbrook n lebron as great as he is s overrated too
@@L92185 im a lebron hater, but lebron overrated? u must be smokin somethin
💯💯💯💯
@@lolstfu2950 Bruh he is. Lebron is a great player but the media puts him on a pedestal he does not belong on. He is very overrated.
Howard is not a hall of famer
Wow. 13 seasons goes by fast! I remember when he was at Arizona State.
Controversially I think with him it’s a case of boy who cried wolf. I think there have been playoff runs where he’s played well, but he’s been bounced by a better team, often the eventual champion. Because that label is in place and how awful he was this series just past, it well and truly paints a damning picture. He’s by no means a player who steps up in the post season. But I do think this notion he’s terrible is overblown a bit.
Since 2017 playoffs vs spurs I've been telling America james harden is aloof, content and doesn't have champion pedigree.
It's funny how Kobe said Harden wouldn't be able to win a championship with the way he plays, a long time ago. I thought the same and I'm not surprised 🤷🏽♂️
And his decline has been pretty steep. He's still a pretty good player but I think the elite days are over.
Facts
You should do Mike Bibby next. He was so underrated as a player that made the Kings Relevant in the early 2000's 💯
Bibby with the Kings 👀
Bibby was quite nice
Kinda feel for him dat he n C Webb got snubbed outta their W against LA back in da 02 finals,but some folks said they been gonna lose anyway.
personally it's crazy how much better he made that team than white chocolate. I'm a big fan of both don't get me wrong but Mike Bibby was a bad mf. Can't forget his solid years with Atlanta either. That part of his career is underrated as well imo
@@bbryant9455 he was a more efficient, mature, and composed pg. J. Will was more exciting and flashy, but Mike was simply a better player.
It definitely feels like he fell off. Disappearing every post-season, so yeah I’ll say he’s washed. Wondering if he can bounce back!!
Do you understand what washed means ? You don't come back your done the decline is permanent
I don't think he's totally washed. Top of league in assists, can still score just has to pick his spots. I wouldn't want him on my team, but he still good.
As a houstonian we feel vindicated. We gave him what he want literally, and he dipped on us implying we were at fault. Appreciate what he did but he full of cap so we werent wrong homie just dont got it.
@Joe Turner Facts
@Joe Turner for me it was 2013-2015 dow n here that was the best it was gonna get after that homie started growing a beer gut hahaha
Harden’s playstyle was never playoff tailor made because he has no counters. All the great players on the perimeter (MJ, Kobe, Bron, etc the former who people thought he was the better 1-on-1 scorer than) all have a counter if something doesn’t work. Him spamming screen and rolls against elite defense who play him multiple times in a row will know all his tendencies compared to bottom dwellers where he had those 50 point triple doubles in the regular season. He has no post game, and he’s not the best finisher through contact. Add that with his lack of leadership, horrible work ethic, and you get an overrated player.
Imgaine thinking a top 10 player of the decade has a horrible work ethic 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂☠️☠️
@@samuelnjenga1761 idk how they come up with these delusional thoughts man just because bro lives his life they think he’s not a hard worker so many ppl around the league talk about how he’s one of the hardest workers in the league lol
Yeah and the late nite partying doesn't help either. I f I have an nba practice at 7:00 am,I'm turning in early for sleep,not having guests over for a jam-session!!! LOL. You have to be the adult in these situations,say no to the juvenile friends,then take your butt to sleep.
@@powerbad696 lmao you could train 5 hours and party for an hours theirs 24 hours in a day no normal person works 24/7
@@samuelnjenga1761 True.There's a time and place for partying,when you have a 7:00 am practice session,go to sleep,don't stay up all nite from 2:00 am till practice time. You're gonna practice like $$$$ !!! LOL. As you get older,especially for a pro baller,you loss a couple steps,you loss lift in the legs,so the fundamentals become very important. Harden is happily content to play at the level he's dropped down to,has the big contract,it happens all the time.
Salute bro another great video
Imo I think he great years are behind him and that was in Houston
I’ve been saying that Philly’s best chance at winning competing for a chip was the Jimmy Butler era. Everybody on that team except for Joel should be on the Tradeblock
He'll never be harden Houston again but you're ignoring his hamstring injury it's been affecting him since the bucks playoffs and never got the proper time to recover from it like cp3 in 2019. If he's still the same player in Philadelphia after this off season then yeah you got a point
You're also downplaying pre injury nets harden, that harden could easily be a 1b or 2nd option for a championship team and I thought it was common knowledge he was pretty much playing on 1 leg in game 7 last year he wasn't supposed to be playing
Thank you for having a brain and using it. Can't forget the using it part.
"harden can easily be a 1b or 2nd option on a championship team". Yea because all his history points to that fact. Lmao. GTFOH with that fanboy shit, always fell off in the playoffs. Beginning with his only finals appearance, he was absolute garbage.
@@jamarreid1082 It took the bucks an overtime game to beat a team with harden as a 1b injured who went on to become NBA champions lol. A healthy harden 100% does the same thing he did injured you right jamar
@@thetruth619ful yea he probably does, be trash, that's what he does in the playoffs. Did that series take place in the playoffs of the regular season? Oh, ok.
The turnovers, the reliance on pick and roll, the foul hunting, the laziness, the lack of defense, made it hard for me to ever be a Harden fan.
Yes sir been waiting for this one 😂🤣😅
Never seen a player fall off so fast. Seems like yesterday him and CP3 were taking GS to game 7
If cp3 don't go down curry and the warriors legacy would be so different smh 🤦
@@diegochavez6203 yada yada yada
Good video once again. I think if he and the Thunder could've agreed to a deal when he was younger, OKC could've at least made another finals appearance in the 2010s.
“ Stunt # 3 … ? Not That Guy . “
😂😭😂
Makes him talking trash about Giannis’ play style such a freezing cold take
u should do greg oden next
Harden can't score because of the rule changes. He used the rulebook against defenders so long he just needs time to fully adjust
Man when can we get a Shareef Abdur Rahim from the Vancouver Grizzlies
But great episode though bro
Glad you did this Video his style of play is exciting to watch but in the playoffs in clutch games & moments he does not show up or show Out. " HE IS NOT THAT GUY" even tho the league tried to promote him and all but its sad to say Ion see him winning a championship unless he just on the bus with guys who do the work to get the chip. #Dantana773
I’m so glad you did this finally. It was about time but you’re right it’s not looking good for harden and will never win a ring
He's not washed, he just doesn't care. He's all about himself and is not above quitting on his team. He has done this numerous times.
Everybody is remembering him as the guy going on those high scoring streaks but don’t remember watching the games because he’d have 15 free throws just from drawing fouls from 3 or flopping I liked James as a player and I thought he was a skilled shooter but watching guys like CP3 and booker fall short in big games it’s because they would rather look for fouls then rather play big and show up same situation with harden he can score to help his team get closer to a win but will hurt them with little to no effort on defense and looking for free points
We've seen it before in players like Carmelo Anthony and Dwight Howard. Players who only have their best interests in mind above all else, even winning. Players like him expect everyone else to give up food from their plate all the while his plate is always full. He's selfish. Plain and simple.
You can't be washed if you've NEVER performed in the playoffs... EVER....
He isn't washed, this is who he has always been. People are just now realizing it, that is all there is to it
None of those Rockets teams were favored to win the championship, They were usually losing to better more talented teams in the playoffs, yes he has had playoff blemishes just like any other great, (San Antonio ‘16) (Portland ‘14) specifically, but I think the choking narrative ppl try to apply to Harden is overplayed, u can say the league “wanted him to be a star” but the guy was legit superstar, averaged 29•6•6 in the playoffs against a Dynasty in GSW, one of the best offensive players in the nba for a decade, he’s 33 blows out his hamstring and people expect him to play like he’s in his prime, he deserves more respect.
James Harden is a great player, however his talent does not coincide with his heart. He appears to be a Instagram player instead of wanting to be a dominant player.
hes NOT a great player, hes
a fraud
@@o.gparamount3099 no guard put up the numbers harden did besides Jordan and west
He can still get you 20 and 10, I think 🤔...
easy
He had one bad year after a hamstring 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ silly questiob
Systems win chips. If I were a defensive coordinator and you asked me if i'd rather gameplan for one dangerous player or three, it's obvious. We all know he's gonna hold the ball.
My favorite RUclips channel!
A Great!!! Talent But Ego, lack of focus and discipline will cripple you every time very rare an athlete can a athlete have all three and still perform at a high level or at all in that matter.
don't forget the new rule changes hurt harden game no more 15 free throws a game so no more free points
When he was talking about all those rappers, I thought the stunted music theme song was going to start playing.
Harden has never been THAT GUY and never will be. Even the late great Kobe Bryant has said Harden's playing style won't lead him to winning championships. As we have seen so far in his career, that's exactly been the case. His performance, although great in the regular season, hasn't been that way in post season play. He simply doesn't have what you call "It". He's just another guy who the league has been trying to turn into "that guy" and it hasn't worked out.
He said that in 2019 when he was putting up 40 ppg because Chris Paul was injured and the Rockets were trash to start the season. This is always taken out of context
How about a DJ Mustard? Is he washed? With the resurgence of Hit Boy is the Mustard sound dead or can he comeback to prominence???
Dope video bro and keep up the good work... he is washed. He always chokes in the postseason dating back to his OkC days. His prime ended when he left Houston.
Love from London
May not be washed but being the key player for an entire season is no longer his position. He’s had some AMAZING seasons individually, had some rules changed for him and made his money. We have seen his ceiling though. And I’m okay with that. He just has to be
Let us not forget that Harden holds the top two turnover games in NBA playoffs history with 10 and then 12..and two games he shot 2 for 11 and a 5 for 20..lol 😂 he along with Chris Paul are chokers.
🤣 how you gonna end it with the crowd walking out
I'm happy this dude won't ever win shit he doesn't deserve it. You can call me a hater that's fine cuz I am when it comes to him. Theres never been a superstar less deserving
When it comes to any star in the league I am ways able to appreciate their skills but Harden? Nah. Borderline unwatchable especially the turnovers and foul hunting.
His legacy will be introducing flopping into the NBA. Reggie and Kobe kicked their legs out, but this punk had a whole system to get to the line.
10:33 this video is old he had Mohawk style at that time. Now he got braids
James Harden is a straight up bum when it comes to basketball. He's super overated and very predictable. And him going to Phili he will continue to play the same and not be held accountable.
One of your best yet, bro.
Can you do shareef abdur Raheem I feel like he would flourish in todays game
Dudes been washed remember when they said he might be better than Kobe because of stats 🤣 🤣
If James Hardens gets another Maxx Contract IDGAF what anybody says..
May not be a Champion but a winner to the bank indeed.
Please do a episode about Roy Tarpley.
Washed. We never wanted him in Philly to begin with. We were screaming when Daryl Morey got here to please not bring James here. He eventually did it anyway and the majority of us had no choice but to say "f*ck it, let's see how it goes goes" and tried to embrace it. Dude can't even dribble now without bouncing it off his damn feet or legs. I don't gaf about his passing if he continues to get 6 or more turnovers a game let alone lay bricks as a shooter. We already have enough brick layers in Philly.
I wouldn't say washed I'll say more of a crossroads in his career it's time to give of the strip club and partying and following the rappers around like a groupie and focus on training and eating habits because he not at the age where he can ignore it anymore
Good points. Age 33,your body gains weight faster as you age,especially when you're not training harder as you age.You're fight about the strip-clubs,staying out late,33 should be the age when you leave those things to the young-bucks !!! Focus on more important things/issues,you know=GROW-UP. LOL.
can you do a stunted growth on bob sura
NON Basketball Moves and the Fear of Arms flailing and Fake fouls is what Made him score that Much.
He was pretty much NOT Guarded because of the Constant flopping and Manipulation of the Officials.
When Steph and Lebron were busy adding to their game and recruiting new teammates James wanted to be in the club. CP3 came to Houston and they could have beat the Warriors but he didn't want to adjust his play style. He did it to himself.
CP3 got hurt
@@706Kel he ran him out of Houston after that. James didn't want to come off the ball for CP.
@@706Kel Wouldn't have made a diffence
Stunted Growth on the cp3 Clippers? Or China's next Yao, Yi Jianling??
That beginning clip shows Harden's commitment. And in Houston it was always something with him. Couldn't play with Howard, Paul or Westbrook. Even though they all tried to accommodate Harden.
Yup agree he wants to party with rappers. He doesn't Wana win a chip
Only way this cat gets a ring is to hold on and follow. His leadership, motivation,and finesse has degraded almost every year. Terrible shot selection as he's never met a shot he didn't like.
20, 10, 8 on a bad hamstring is not washed. He'll play better next season wherever he is.
He'll never win a title but was a fun player to watch over his career. It may be the beginning of the end though.
He wasn't even fun to watch tbh
watchu mean fun to watch? aint nobody wanted to watch him shoot 20 free throws per game
Yeah the free throws and flailing sucked but the crossovers and stepbacks were dope. He made dudes fall on the regular.
It simply comes down to players not caring about winning the championship anymore. Some just wanna be the best player on the team. Getting the max contract is all that matters. Some care for legacy, for others it’s a career/business
Dude you're on fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Too busy in the strip clubs,hanging with rappers,strippers & ig models instead of crafting his game,mindset to be a champion. James Harden has hit the wall hard 👌🏾.
Dawg I been trying to get people to see all of this since 2018 but been called a hater when the proof was always there year after year
Shooting 50 percent is not important for perimeter players because a lot of the best perimeter players shoot a high number of 3's now
His style of play coupled with his partying and need to be this I'm down guy, hanging out with rapper's he's done!!
Facts
Hey stunted growth do dennis smith jr love your channel
I could've swore he said "based heavily on his stomach growth" instead of "stunted growth" at 3:20. Either one would work, tho.
I don't think he's washed but those 30s hit different when you don't take care of your body in your 20s...
Imgaine thinking a top 10 player of his decade doesn't take care of his body ??? Like he rolls out of his bed and averages 36 ppg 😂😂😂😂😂 naive basketball players who only watch sportscenter
@@samuelnjenga1761 no, genius.. you can tell he doesn't take care of his body simply by looking at his gut. Off season workouts make players great and help them to sustain greatness. The tougher the workout the greater the greatness.
@@Bo-whiskey he couldn't even workout he had a hamstring injury he had to rehab the entire season. This is his first bad year since like 2012 😂😂😂🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
He needs to shave the beard and remarket himself
A future hall of famer can’t have a stunted growth. Not having a championship don’t make him any less of a great player. Harden is still one of the greatest scorers.
You sound ridiculous. The greatest manipulator of rules yes but scorers?? hell nah
@@waanb4312 You don’t watch sports that much is clear.
@@A_Yo_brown he had a good lil 3/4 year stretch getting 20ft a game because he literally the only player with the ball in his hand just dribbling and playing for contact. Yea he could shoot the three pretty good but like I said the dude had the ball in his hands for 97% of his time in Houston. Just bc you watch it don’t mean you know what’s goin on past the surface level either
@@waanb4312 isn’t that what Luka does now
Harden needs a Trade to the Atlanta 4PF’s and maybe then he’ll go hard for a championship
He came down here and got him some cheesesteaks from Max's and he out here tricking at onyx smh. He can still play but no way he deserves a max from my sixers
You should do Monta Elis ...so underrated and sucks he didn't wanna work with Steph
Just to summarize.. HARDEN is TALENTED but TOO LAZY!.. 🤦♂️😬🤦♂️
Lol why Draymond catching strays lmaooo
Harden quit on the Sixers and Joel. There’s no justification for that level of betrayal
“What club” 😂 I honestly believe his style of play just doesn’t match with the playoffs same with Luka players with that high of a usage just never succeeds in the playoffs moving forward. I also believe harden still hurt but who knows
Your belief is historically correct. TNT did a study, and players with extreme usuage rate don't win a ring and get hurt.
Your next video I would like for you do , is not a person but a basketball move! The first person who did the eurostep in the nba! Me and my guys think it was Šarūnas Marčiulionis! Tell me what you think!🤔
James Harden game looks slower with more mistakes. I think injuries & mileage play a factor in James Harden decine. Hardens mindset of wanting to be on an already gets team in order to win & wanting to do less on the basketball court also plats a part in his decline as a player.
Harden is hands down the most overrated player in league history. Listen, I know alot of fans of the modern nba don't wanna hear this, but he'd be a 15 to 20 a game scorer if he played back in the 90's or early 2000's. Nearly half his points he's scored over the course of his career comes directly from getting calls and shooting ft's that he simply would not have gotten back then, (yes a bit of an exaggeration, but not by a whole lot). That and the ridiculous amount of travels the refs let him get away with. Im well aware of the interpretation of the rule now allows for nearing 3 effin steps after you pick up your dribble, but this is a relatively newer interpretation of the rile. Back in the 90's and early 2000's they didn't call all that many travels back then either, but half the shit that refs let go nowadays would certainly have warranted a travel call. James isn't the only player to take advantage of this, but like with the constant flopping and flailing in order to get a foul called to then go to te line for ft's, he's probably taken advantage of this current rule interpretations the most of anyone in the league. I mean shit, the rule used to be 1 and a half to 2 steps, he'd be called for traveling at least 3 or 4 times a game if he tried doing half the shit he does now if we had gone back to the rules/interpretations of the late 90's. As for why he disappears in the playoffs so often has to do with him simply not being a big-time clutch player, but also due to the significant increase in defensive intensity, so the way he'd get many of his buckets in the regular season simply doesn't work as well, and because he isn't the most athletically gifted player while also a shorter SG - all combine to make his output harder to come by. There's also the fact that he, despite having a string of games in a row where he demonstrates how good of a play-maker/passer he could be, while still getting his own shot, most of the time though he's a ball-dominant ball hog, which makes it even easier for defenses to key in on him in the post-season. He has quite often still put up a good amount of points in the playoffs, but usually at the expense of his teammates. Of course there's also the fact he is literally one of the worst defenders of all time to boot
Bullshit
Stunted i cant lie. Im not a Harden fan but i find it hard to beleive he fell of this far this fast.. He can move he cant jump. It just dont seem possible to fall this quick..so im thinking he needs some offseason surgery and if he come back in shape he will be better..will the Sixers win. Oh naw. But James will play better..
Do a video on Diamond Stone
The new rules & Father Time took his game away
He's had one bad year coming off of a hamstring he couldn't even train during the offseeon he had to rehab
I've always said Harden was made a star by the NBA. He's not a real top 75 player or superstar.
Did you make a Thon Maker video ?
I don’t think he’s washed I just think the nba stopped making terrible calls in his favor so that encourages defenders to play him closer n it stops him from having space n from getting so many free throw attempts
Oj Mayo
Grant Hill
John Wall
Kristap Prozigas
Carmelo Anthony
Just to name few that would be good also great work!
Hey y'all quick question..
James Harden or Tracy McGrady
He’s not the same no more because of that BasedGod curse LOLLL
Look good to me
🏈do former jax jags WR Justin blackmon. He was nice but liked 2 drink mad alcohol