Summary: This review took a lot of grit and determination as the early grind is pretty horrible and from watching a certain other reviewers video I can see clearly that they did not bother and just spouted a whole load of bullshit and guess work at what the game is like without even trying many of the new features, this saddens me a lot as people are going to miss out on a good game. First of all it's clearly not for everyone, space survival is a genre that requires imagination, patience and a huge amount of time but the rewards are great immersion, coop experiences and vast exploration. Some of the deluded comments on this video are hilarious, they are from people who have clearly not even bothered playing the game for more than 6 or 7 hours. They say it's all about mining and grinding when it's clearly not about any of that once you start massing your fleet. This is one of the main changes to the game, you become the top dog, the fleet owner, you employ others to work for you, send ships out on missions to earn big bucks while you explore with your friends and even assault other freighters and ships. Hardly mining and grinding. You also decide if you want a huge land base on a planet you like or to just stay in space, mobile and exploring the galaxy, or do both. All the things mentioned here were simply not in the game back in 2016. The 2016 game was just mining and grinding for fuel while you fly around a pointless world doing nothing. Look at these patch notes for the three huge updates that have happened since 2016 (Pathfinder, Altas and Next) nomanssky.gamepedia.com/Patch_notes it's basically a totally different game now and I for one am shocked at how much it's changed. I have huge plans for my game, firstly financial through my freighter missions then expansion of my fleet and then exploration, this will probably take 40+ hours. The fact that am doing this in coop is great and adds a whole new avenue to the game. Did Sean Murray lie to us in 2015 and 2016 ofc he did but he has redeemed himself now by turning the game into what it is today by working his arse off for 2 years to make up for his terrible mistake. Should we still call for his head? ofc not, why should we, he is redeemed in my book, will I trust him again, possibly, but that trust must now be earned, I want to see at least two more games released that actually live up to the "words of the developer" then I may start trusting him again.
You should have read the words. The Next release notes say you can 'prey on others to survive,' As far as I can tell that's a complete lie. I fought to the death by arrangement. I won, but the guy that died got to return to his grave and get all his backpack inventory back. I got nothing except less health due to the fight. You try to 'prey on others to survive,' Mack. See what you think about Hello Game's words then.
Honestly you really need to stop trying to catch the devs out and just play the damn game, there are loads of videos of people raiding other players bases, I just watched a guy loot 2.5 million from another players base. Google some no mans sky pvp and you will see what it's all about.
Tieyme play survival mode, death is final, end off start again. Also try and get the achievement getting to the center of the galaxy in survival, now that's a challenge
Fair play to re-review mack. I read an article that Murray got caught up in the hype himself at that start and regrets it all. He also said that without launching when they did they were done as they had run out of money and although this is not an excuse I can understand taking on a project that gets out of control and the vision he had for this game. I'm so happy they have been able to continue to make Next and he said they will be continuing to produce content and updates on a regular basis going forward. Credit where credit is due if this was an EA studio it would have been forgotten about 2 years ago..
Wow Felipe! You are totally right! Just thinking back to 2016 when NMS hit, look at how far its came since then and look how little Star Citizen has progressed. I am honestly waiting to see what comes of Star Citizen, it might not be bad it might not be good, but the drama will be entertaining!
Star Citizen has been making tons of very tangible progress, people just don't notice every time Star Citizen does something groundbreaking because they've been doing it multiple times per-year for the last four years.
fortunately i mean when it released it had all the potential and now they have actually fixed the game to the point where it's the thing we were promised
Redwingz Ftw no it’s not a comeback, if they would’ve released the game with all of the promised features, then they probably wouldn’t have updated it. This is just a shitty business practice of “LETS HAVE PEOPLE BUY OUR GAME AND THEN FIX IT LATER.” By supporting no mans sky and hello games, your supporting that, but I know you’re a sheep who hasn’t been redpilled yet, so go on!
take note haters. If even people who shit on the game 2 years ago (rightfully so in some aspects) think it's a good game you have no more excuse other than just being a troll
Mack, this is a prime example of why I trust and greatly appreciate your reviews, honesty. You have never steered me wrong on a game. You are a truly valuable reviewer and there aren't many left.
Game dev noob that was eaten alive by the community makes a comeback. Shows how genuine and passionate they really are in what they do. This actually beats those who are great devs but gets pushed around to make the game less fun for players and more fun for businessmen/investors.
If you're posting about IS IT WORTH A BUY "WRONG" He is the real reason the game is getting worked on and i truth his post most of the time but i have not gotten the game yet thinking about it but to call him noob is like calling, you're self-one WHATEVER.
Not really, quarterly patches to the alpha are showing very steady progress now. Unless you are actually involved in the alpha then it's silly to comment. Performance has also improved a lot, all the evidence is quite reassuring. Luckily some people are willing to take risks with their money to make great games happen, all of you kids shouting and screaming online without actually having any direct insight on the SC dev process are just, well, typical examples of ignorant people being loud online without having any real insight to offer, nothing new there. If you are only ever willing to back small-medium scale projects where no real risk or innovation is involved, with a focus on a quick release (AAA industry) well you all deserve publishers like EA basically.
I spent $35, less than the release price of the game. I'm happy to support the project with my money, because it couldn't exist otherwise. So keep on getting your panties in a twist instead of using logic and reason, it's entertaining and sad at the same time - Some people just thrive off of online drama and hysteria, such as yourselves.
i've dipped in regularly fpr 3 years and still dont see a game worth playing. i'm not anti-SC, still invested and looking forward to it, but i gotta say its disappointing
Thank you Mack for the excellent WAB. Your opinion has always been valuable to me in choosing games. You have good taste as you have never thumbed up a game which I have bought which I have then regretted purchasing 😝. Thanks for making my pennies go further by alerting me as to how to save 2 quid on my purchase of no man’s sky. 🙂
Being the greatest in something that shouldn't be a thing is still not a good thing. Games should have to do comebacks at all. They robbed a lot of people of their money with false promises, that years down the line turned into a half way decent game. Not really something i'd wanna be known for. And after all the delays and f*ck ups they still ask a tripple A value price for it. Ya can't throw 2 scoops of sugar on a pile of shit and call it sweet.
But within him beats a mortal heart that will one day be tempted to corruption. On that day, will he have the strength to resist or Will_ He_ Be_ OUR DOOM?
Han Lockhart because the man didn’t give up he wanted a game like this and so do everyone else so he formed it yes it got rough in the beginning and the game is pointless but thats the true launch of a game start off horrible and useless and update it to a fine work of art this game is worth buying now and sean still is working on the massive updates this is a real developer and team this is a real company with a good developer and loyal crew this is how you make a good game not by abandoning it and not putting it to its potential god bless Sean and his company
I never got on the hype train and actually never played it when it first released, it just passed me by. I mostly sat and chuckled at the shit show that took place after the release. But about a week before NEXT released I bought it and started playing. I actually didn't even know there was a new update coming. And oh boy have I had fun. With NEXT it's gotten even better. Like crazy good! The best game of 2018 was released in 2016, weird huh...
I'm in the same boat as you, I didn't join the hype train and sat and laughed at the chaos that came after release. Now I'm actually considering getting it, seems like a fun game.
*There's a theory that the stuff promised would of never been possible at launch. So they lied to get big sales which then gave them the budget to actually make the No Man's Sky that was promised.*
I really hope they keep this up. If they make the same amount of progress in the next two years, this game will be something amazing. And maybe even what we were expecting at launch.
You clearly missed the pre original release hype. What was promised is more than can actually be done outside of maybe massive supercomputing clusters. This looks like it'll do, tho. :)
Mack...Don't ever stop reviewing...I always look forward to your reviews and can never stop busting out in laughter as I watch. No one does it as brutally frank as you.... I've waited to buy this game since its launch and now I think its time. Looks like loads of fun after the updates. Thanks Mack!
Here's something you gotta remember. About 90% of the way through development, Hello Games Studio was flooded! They had said that it had effected some of their progress, yet they didn't delay the game. Or, weren't allowed to? They had a contract with SONY, and were funded by them for the release of their game on that specific date. Perhaps SONY forced Hello Games' hand and didn't want to see a delay, and made them release what they had. And what they had was MAYBE less then they had before the flood. Anyone else agree? Coulda been false hype and lies. Or it could have been a good company being punished for something they had no control over..
MrRATpHace Sony's hands were dirty insofar as they were heavily tied to the game and HAD to have known it would not live up to its promises. They marketed it heavily so they created that hype morsoe than Sean Murray. They also had to have been involved in deciding it's $60 price tag. I'm sure your right and they made sure it was "forced out the doors when it really needed lot's more time.
Yeah, devs have found ways to hide loading screens in all sorts of games. Any time you have to wait for something is likely a loading screen in the background.
One of the best things they did to this game was turning the red crystals into compressed carbon (instead of the only launcher fuel) and creating frequently-spawning dihydrogen fuel for the launch thrusters. One of the worst feelings when the game first came out was trying to decide when to land your ship on a planet because relaunching it was like losing a leg. Especially in survival mode. But now the fuel sources are so much more reasonable to make and you can’t get stranded on planets anymore. That is also nice. 10/10
Multiplayer is even better now. You can join their game and you still have you base and even when you leave their game your base just continues. Lots of UI improvements and more quests. Still a lot of repetitive buildings but I barely need them with all the other stuff to do.
I'm almost positive that the tutorial is different for everyone. You spawn on a random planet and that's where the tutorial begins. I think you just got unlucky, hahaha.
No Mans Sky, as of today Sept 2022... is amazing. Its come a long long way, even in just the couple years I have been playing. Its one if my favorite games, I have over 1600 hours. Its a very niche game, its like black liquorice... you either love it or hate it. Its not really like anything else. And a lot of people don't know how to handle not being pushed along and forced in any particular direction, not having a solid definition of what "sucess" is or dealing with the multitude of ways there are to be sucessful. No ticking clock, no pursuing enemies, no restrictions on advancement or travel... a lot of gamers dont know wtf to do without being told. And there are so many items to find, craft and upgrade and so many systems to make money and nanites and so many things to spend them on and so many roles you can choose for yourself... There is always something to do. I really got into building, its the best building in gaming. Especially once you learn the advanced techniques/glitch building. I agree though, there is a bit of redundancy when it comes to assets. Theres a ton of different plants, animals, buildings, planet styles etc... but you do see the same stuff all the time. And there are no inhabited planets really... settlements and the odd NPC station but no cities or hostile populations beyond sentinel-heavy planets. Thats really all I can complain about.
I have that hairs on the back of my neck watching this. So happy you did this review. Iv being playing this from day one, got burned but stuck with it. Bit by bit it's becoming becoming. Love it.
I'm on the edge of buying it. I'm not entirely sure if I want it yet or not, I'm just scared of getting bored. I normally play things like Fallout and red dead. I want immersion and purpose that keeps me going, not tedious copy and paste quests if you know what I mean? Also, can you build ships in this or not?
Haven't been able to sit down with it properly yet. Installed and booted it up and like Mack said, damn that tutorial is some mean annoying piece of work. Other than that it ran quite smood it seemed. I'll come back to it over the weekend! ;D
I'm loving this game now. I've had it since release but only just now been putting the hours into it. There is so much to do, quests and tech unlocking. The planets are locking better and more varied too. Well done Sean!
This review is eye opening. Seriously sounds like Space Minecraft where the beginning is Minecraft and the end is EVE where you own a space station in the end. Man, creative juices are flowing. Thanks Mack, gotta check this out now. This is a miracle.
Hey Mack, You are an absolute champion. I was 10 yrs old when I got ELITE on the BBC. Was an Xmas present from my mother , a complete surprise. Best Xmas I ever had as a kid. I absolutely loved that game. I backed the Kick Starter for ELITE Dangerous. I was in awe when I saw David was remaking it. After installing it the joy I felt as a kid came back. It was awesome. But like you I was extremely disappointed by the fact there were no thargoids. I'm not sure if you have played Elite Dangerous recently but I'd love to see you re-review it like you have done for No Man's Sky. I watched your first review of no mans sky and once I could finally stop myself from laughing so hard I decided not to buy it based on your review. Then I saw this review and I was like holy shit I have to have it! I am over 50 hours in to it now and am loving it. If only Elite had this much content when you land on a planet instead of the single outpost on a derelict planet with not a single f!%@$n thargoid in site! (DING!) I do have to use an Xbox controller on my PC to fly though. Flying with the mouse is impossible. If I could merge the two games I'd have the ultimate game. We could call it No Man's ELITE!! (DING!)
l like that he came back to this game and post more information on the update and improvements this helps us make good decision on a game we maybe would think about buying, BIG THANKS TO YOU, but don't use payoff for sales is what make us stop watching people sites, for we are trusting you to be honest and professional about what you review, again thanks.
No man's sky budget is 2 million,compare that with star citizen being 185 million and they keep asking for more and haven't finished the game..they're doomed indeed.
The number one thing that I think people need to understand about NMS is that no matter what, it is a survival game, which is a fact that isnt going to change. That's a big, popular genre, but it's not for everyone. That genre always has the same sort of gameplay loop and NMS is no exception: Gather resources so you can survive, so you can gather more resources, to survive more, and maybe get some improvements and machines, to get resources better and have more options, to survive more..... you get the idea. Survival games are always quite repetitive and tend to have ALOT of "resource grind", but holy heck do you have alot of freedom and there are always about a bazillion things to do despite the repetition. It might sound silly, but I always compare NMS to Dont Starve, as it really is the same gameplay loop and alot of the same concepts. Though this has a MUCH higher emphasis on exploration and it's quite a bit less brutal than Dont Starve is (unless you play on the harder of the two modes... then it gets cruel). If you like survival games, you're gonna freaking love this, and the exploration elements are going to just improve the formula even more. But if you dont like them, this one likely wont change your mind on that genre. So all of that should be kept in mind before deciding to buy or not. Ya know what this game also reminds me of... Starflight. Ooooooold space game from way back when. It's like a super-modern version of that. I adored that game, so this has been fantastic to me. I am absolutely loving this and it's been fascinating to watch this make such an astonishing comeback... heck, even most of my friends are playing this. Despite most of them declaring it to be horrible early on.
Damn dude, I might actually have to pick this up now. How expansive is the multiplayer though? Is there a limit to how many people can get into one co-op game? Is there an overall multiplayer like they were talking about two years ago, with hundreds of people on one server, but the universe is so vast that you'll hardly bump into anyone else?
4 player co-op...drop in drop out..if another player not in your party of 4 turns up they appear as a glowing orb..u can see the orb and know it's another player but can't interact..your party of 4 friends all have proper character models (space suits) with full interaction like trading items, gesturing + more etc.. and can change your race to any of the other races in the game with full customisation on any space station for free...sorry it's long explanation.. it's hard to cram all the crazy new stuff it's a totally different game.
There was never talk about hundereds of people being on server. MP was always going to P2P within a system and limtied to just a few players at one time. This was put into the game 1 year ago with 1.3. Next is an expansion onto that system.
And there are no plans to expand co-op to 16 players. Thats a lie. People are still No Mans Skying i see. The game currently supports up to 16 players in an instance. But only 4 can drop in, the rest have to be on location through thier saves. There aren't plans to increase the amount of co-op players.
Wylie28 What? If you look at the original interviews with Murray, he actually states that yes, the original goal was to have thousands of people on a server at once. However, he also said that since the universe they were creating was so large, the possibilities of actually running into anyone were very very small.
He never said that. The original plan for multi was exactly what we got in 1.3. I have a feeling you have no idea what the difference between an instance and a server is. Servers do host 10s of 1000s of people. But an instance will not contain more than 16. Very standard for video games. Clientside hardware cannot handle that many networked objects in a game.
I'm from Canada and usually the conversion rate on the prices at greenmangaming don't make up for the additional 10% off they usually give. Is that different for the UK?
It really is amazing now, I bought it a week ago after seeing this updated review. I just love it. Glad I saved money and time waiting until it got fixed. What they did was unacceptable, but they get points for recovering it to such a degree.
People need to remember that this game was created and developed by a very, very small team. It's not a triple A title with hundreds or more people working on it. The game isn't for everyone too: it is about (for me at least) relaxation and enjoying views, not what some people thought like huge MMO space battles, etc.
A hell of a lot of these "new" features Mack goes on about were all there in the original release, as far as I can tell. I don't think Mack took a long enough look at the original game, I'm not saying it hasn't improved in many ways, just not as many as Mack says.
Yeah but a lot of those mechanics that were already there has gotten more interesting by giving the game better progression and sense of purpose. Sure, you could find a ship at release but if you didn't even wanna keep playing, it didn't feel as rewarding.
I think the best way of looking at it is that NMS was originally released in an alpha state. Much of framework for the game was more or less there, but not finished, not balanced, not tied together into a coherent whole. The three big exceptions would be base building, land vehicles, and multiplayer, each of which are completely new systems requiring a lot of new code. A good example of what I mean by the basic framework existing all the way from the original version would be the crafting system. All the functional bits were there from the beginning - you could craft upgrades, and you could craft items. The problem was that the items you could craft were mostly useless (other than warp drive fuel anyway), and you just got the upgrade recipes from random loot. Now there's a real crafting tree of sorts, and resource distribution makes more sense, and you buy blueprints from merchants. Really, it barely added anything at all, it just had some assembly (and balancing) required! It's like one of those plastic models, comparing it from when you just open the box to the finished, assembled model. The state of the model looks completely different! But the real work was done way earlier, by the guy who meticulously modeled every little piece and the other guy who got the molds in the factory fabricated and... Now there are still components of NMS that need some love. Mack already mentioned the buildings, which would definitely benefit from some nice procedural generation. Mind you, procedurally generating buildings and having floor layouts make sense and having the details work harmoniously is easier said than done! There have been some interesting reasearch papers written about this in recent years, mostly in the context of generating cityscapes, and with a decent bit of deep learning mixed in, but there is still a lot to discover. Another improvement could be in animal spawning rules. Proper herds, sensible predator/prey balance, that sort of thing. The bottom line in any case is that the pieces of NMS are no longer scattered around on the table, but are beginning to really fit together into a whole.
It’s always been that game I go back to when I just wanna explore and chill with nothing too exiting. Now it’s been brought back to life and I’m so buzzed for it.
When Steam gives you two hours to refund, then devs really need to put more effort into tutorials to hold the players interest and to make them keep wanting to play.
0utta S1TE i dont care if it takes 10 years. I paid $50 to back the game. Even if it never comes out, I'm not too worried about $50. That's how investment's work.
Major Glitch not really. I am playing NMS and loving it. So your comment is futile. I'll give your "insult" an A for effort. Better luck next time little buddy.
I stayed far away from this game thanks to your original review, but with this updated review im ready to jump into this game. I have to agree with you, they could have ran with their millions, renamed their company and brought out a new game instead they got their hands dirty and turned this turd ship into a sailing wonder.
the tutorial doesn't really hold your hand like it used to and i find this game a lot harder now you have to do a lot more with getting resource than before, anyone else find the interface a little bit more harder to get used to or is it just me lol
It is funny tho, a lot of the things mac is happy about in this game have not changed at all from 2016. Ex like finding finding a ship on a planet and fixing it and taking it
I don't thing you understand that this is a game review, ofc I am going to mention stuff that was present in 2016 such as the trading system on the space stations and the mining and grinding, do you expect me to just not mention them? New players will not have seen the other review so i had to cover all bases. You are totally wrong though about lots of stuff I am happy with were in the 2016 build, you only named "one" and that is simply because you can't think of any more :p
Sorry if you answered this already, but which do you prefer now, NMS or Elite? I re-tried Elite a couple months ago but dropped it after a couple weeks. I'm 40+ hours into this now since NEXT dropped and i'm still going.
Mack, I was on the fence about buying this after being so disappointed at launch, but your review convinced me to buy it again on PC. 5 hours in, I jump into my 4th new system to find a freighter under attack. I help the ship out, the captain invites me on board and the crazy bastard makes me the new captain. So I've gone from the starter ship to commander of a huge freighter and its support fleet of frigates. I don't even speak a single word of their language.
Man I love your reviews, #1 reviewer in my eyes, been watching for years and based many buying decisions on your reviews. It is rare that you get someone that will so easily tear a game to shreds and show everything that sucks, but also has an open mind enough to go back later and re review something like this, kudos! Keep up the great work!!!
There is also survival mode. Wtf is hard about varying your activities? GOd damn. People need to start taking responsibility for thier own stupidity these days.
How is the Hotas support in this? I played a tonne of Elite Dangerous a while back, just wondering how this game controls with a flight stick, or if its actually just good with a mouse and keyboard.... thanks
lol i though the same, other than the fact that multiplayer finally works (which of course should have from the beginning) I don´t see any significant changes.
If only this was a star wars game! It be sweet if you can mod pc copy with sw stuff. Disney give the license to hello games be better the casualfront 2.
So i was pretty inactive and maybe you mentioned this topic in another Video but whats going on with your other channel? Are the Videos returning or whats up with that?
Star Citizen: - Massive hype kickstarter generating millions of funds. - Online shop generating hundreds of millions over the course of 6 years. - 6 years later, all we have is some meh betas for a couple of modes and an all-ships complete pack that costs $100k (only available to people who have already spent $1k+). - 6 years later, still waiting for the complete game I was promised when I preordered. Maybe in 60 more years SC will be a complete product. No man's Sky: - Started with hype but flopped hard. - Source of "No Man's Lie" memes for 2 years. - Despite heavily limited funds (flopped release, refunds, and barely anyone bought it since release), 2 years later the product we were promised is pretty much here. - Actually worth buying now, and has more content than star citizen. I'm fucking done. NMS was the only game I had even less faith in than SC, now it's completely turned around and I'm having a blast with it.
All survival games are repetitive and generic, in fact most games are period. How many times have you looted the same house in 7 Days to Die or Minecraft? What do you want 18 trillion hand crafted planets? Some people won't be satisfied until Hello Games create a real virtual galaxy, Sean Murray may have made some outlandish claims in the past, I don't recall being God was one of them. If you don't actually know what's in the new version your opinion is anything but humble and entirely worthless.
I disliked the inital version and this one doesn't make it any better. Why would I build a base if there's no enemy, why would I upgrade my ship if there's nothing waiting for me? The campaign might be 30 hours but 30 hours of nothing special. Don't argue with Minecraft, Fortnite etc. You play Fortnite because it's competetive. You play Minecraft because it had insanely creative and diverse multiplayer modes and single player mods. This game in comparison is like Minecraft early alpha. This game should be about exploring and there just isn't anything to explore after you've played for a couple of hours.
Great WAB Mack, my sentiments exactly. Almost 200 hours now in the "Next" version and wasn't more than 10 hours in before I gave up in the previous one. It's honestly great fun now!
Great on point review! You can’t review this game without putting TIME in. This is the only space exploration game with full features. You fly, land, walk, build, mine, develop, economy, trade, multiplayer, freighters, stations, land vehicles, etc, etc!
Woupsme thats not a redeeming point tho. Ofc the updates should be free. Look at the damn price tag of this game. If the updates would've cost stuff that would've been the scummy way to go for the devs. Free updates shouldnt be a "redeeming point". They should be the standard.
lol what principle is that... was you a fan of hitler and world war 2? no... so are you gonna pass on the opportunity to drive or buy a Porsche because it german? think about what you are saying mate, your chopping off your nose to spite your face, you should buy a game for you, not skip it to make a point nobody is going to see, hello games wont be sitting there saying ''shiiiiit, nextplanetgaming isn't buying our game'' and nobody else is either, the only one that misses out is you. buy something you want because you like it otherwise you miss all the best things in life and nobody cares, I hate apple, but if they make something amazing that I want ill buy it I don't give a shit if I hate them and their practices or not lol
Hi Mack, Does Green Man Gaming have a platform that you have to play their games through (like steam), or is it a pure game download (as if you had bought CD/DVD)?
Another huuuge thing is that they've continually updated the planets and terrain generation. It's outstanding now, with near Earth like scale. Mountains, oceans, continents etc. Really really loving the new planets, and I'm a day one player who has been through all the updates over the last 2 years.
All the buildings look the same, but I just assumed they were just like modular pods that a race would send down. But in that case I would expect every race to have their own modular pods. I'm not sure if different races have different buildings or not.
I didn't play the old NMS much, maybe 15-20 minutes, before I dropped it like a hot potato. But I came back now to check things out and oh goodness ... so immersive! It's absoultely great.
I purchased right before Next. I was dumbfounded at how bad the tutorial was, I died my first 5 starts, then Next hit and something clicked. I'm almost through the tutorial and loving it. Thanks for the updated WAB. I agree completely.
Hi Mack, this is nothing special but i just wanted to say that i've been watching your videos for at least 2-3years now. I've been also enjoying videos on your 2nd channel "Mackscorner" - i hope you didnt abandon it. :) Anyways, before i found you on youtube i was always a huge fan of TB (since ~2008) and after he passed away i have to say you have the best review videos here on this platform by far - at least for my taste and i am a bit older gamer (i started gaming in 1990/91). Thank you & keep up the good work!
When you use the teleporter at the station you get a loading screen.When you warp from the Star map thats also a loading screen.I love this game though and i am very impressed with Hello Games work.No Mans Sky is a work of art.
oh snap this is the first time Mack hasn’t read the *words*
*words from the developuh*
Outplayedx yeah remeber how the first one went?? Jadajadaja
Yeah, that's because he now read the words of the aliens.
Their words mean nothing to me anymore :)
Actions speak louder than words anyway.
DASSS RAYCIIISSS'
What a comeback this game made. Its evidence that this game was clearly pushed out before it was finished. This might be worth picking up now.
If you just want to explore there's a sandbox mode where you don't need to bother with grinding.
Especially since it is 50% off right now
Sounds like you want an RPG and not a Survival game.
733Rafael speaking of pointless. Your comment is pointless. And just wrong :)
733Rafael Look a troll
Summary:
This review took a lot of grit and determination as the early grind is pretty horrible and from watching a certain other reviewers video I can see clearly that they did not bother and just spouted a whole load of bullshit and guess work at what the game is like without even trying many of the new features, this saddens me a lot as people are going to miss out on a good game.
First of all it's clearly not for everyone, space survival is a genre that requires imagination, patience and a huge amount of time but the rewards are great immersion, coop experiences and vast exploration.
Some of the deluded comments on this video are hilarious, they are from people who have clearly not even bothered playing the game for more than 6 or 7 hours. They say it's all about mining and grinding when it's clearly not about any of that once you start massing your fleet. This is one of the main changes to the game, you become the top dog, the fleet owner, you employ others to work for you, send ships out on missions to earn big bucks while you explore with your friends and even assault other freighters and ships. Hardly mining and grinding.
You also decide if you want a huge land base on a planet you like or to just stay in space, mobile and exploring the galaxy, or do both. All the things mentioned here were simply not in the game back in 2016. The 2016 game was just mining and grinding for fuel while you fly around a pointless world doing nothing. Look at these patch notes for the three huge updates that have happened since 2016 (Pathfinder, Altas and Next) nomanssky.gamepedia.com/Patch_notes it's basically a totally different game now and I for one am shocked at how much it's changed.
I have huge plans for my game, firstly financial through my freighter missions then expansion of my fleet and then exploration, this will probably take 40+ hours. The fact that am doing this in coop is great and adds a whole new avenue to the game.
Did Sean Murray lie to us in 2015 and 2016 ofc he did but he has redeemed himself now by turning the game into what it is today by working his arse off for 2 years to make up for his terrible mistake. Should we still call for his head? ofc not, why should we, he is redeemed in my book, will I trust him again, possibly, but that trust must now be earned, I want to see at least two more games released that actually live up to the "words of the developer" then I may start trusting him again.
You should have read the words. The Next release notes say you can 'prey on others to survive,' As far as I can tell that's a complete lie. I fought to the death by arrangement. I won, but the guy that died got to return to his grave and get all his backpack inventory back. I got nothing except less health due to the fight.
You try to 'prey on others to survive,' Mack. See what you think about Hello Game's words then.
If you select normal game mode you never lose anything.
Honestly you really need to stop trying to catch the devs out and just play the damn game, there are loads of videos of people raiding other players bases, I just watched a guy loot 2.5 million from another players base. Google some no mans sky pvp and you will see what it's all about.
Tieyme play survival mode, death is final, end off start again. Also try and get the achievement getting to the center of the galaxy in survival, now that's a challenge
Fair play to re-review mack. I read an article that Murray got caught up in the hype himself at that start and regrets it all. He also said that without launching when they did they were done as they had run out of money and although this is not an excuse I can understand taking on a project that gets out of control and the vision he had for this game. I'm so happy they have been able to continue to make Next and he said they will be continuing to produce content and updates on a regular basis going forward. Credit where credit is due if this was an EA studio it would have been forgotten about 2 years ago..
The most shocking thing about this is that NMS has actually made more tangible progress than Star Citizen hahahah
Felipe Pérez but can you buy 4500 dollar ships in no mans sky....
Or elite dangerous....
Wow Felipe! You are totally right! Just thinking back to 2016 when NMS hit, look at how far its came since then and look how little Star Citizen has progressed. I am honestly waiting to see what comes of Star Citizen, it might not be bad it might not be good, but the drama will be entertaining!
Star Citizen has been making tons of very tangible progress, people just don't notice every time Star Citizen does something groundbreaking because they've been doing it multiple times per-year for the last four years.
SC has 5x more depth than NMS. Plus it doesn't look like a cartoon. Nice try.
Mac forgot to say there is a creative mode where you don't have to grind. You just explore and build and have fun.
Java Monsoon ikr it’s funny when I see other people in my lobby die in permadeath 😂
that would get boring real fast for me, i think the grind makes the game.
Enthusiastic Amateur Agreed
Ya with that said the fact is the game play objective is gone you really have no other reason to continue playing in creative mode.
Wow for me this is one of the best video game comebacks.
fortunately i mean when it released it had all the potential and now they have actually fixed the game to the point where it's the thing we were promised
Asiozales Netzwerk Sektion Leipzig I believe it’s better than what they promised
This is what happens when devs actually give a shit.
Redwingz Ftw no it’s not a comeback, if they would’ve released the game with all of the promised features, then they probably wouldn’t have updated it. This is just a shitty business practice of “LETS HAVE PEOPLE BUY OUR GAME AND THEN FIX IT LATER.” By supporting no mans sky and hello games, your supporting that, but I know you’re a sheep who hasn’t been redpilled yet, so go on!
I love stories about good comebacks
Yeah, me too... like Brexit.
take note haters. If even people who shit on the game 2 years ago (rightfully so in some aspects) think it's a good game you have no more excuse other than just being a troll
Ok, but what about when I like my thing because I like my thing? I sure do hope that's not pathetic.
fenrif - take note salt boi, if you're still bitter about a game even after 2 years,
you have issues that no amount of updates or videogames can fix
Like FFXIV
Mack, this is a prime example of why I trust and greatly appreciate your reviews, honesty. You have never steered me wrong on a game. You are a truly valuable reviewer and there aren't many left.
Could this be the greatest redemption arc in game dev history?
might be
That is final fantasy 14 :)
Harry Bartko it's pretty close
Pretty much.
Harry Bartko They are few and far between
Game dev noob that was eaten alive by the community makes a comeback. Shows how genuine and passionate they really are in what they do.
This actually beats those who are great devs but gets pushed around to make the game less fun for players and more fun for businessmen/investors.
If you're posting about IS IT WORTH A BUY "WRONG" He is the real reason the game is getting worked on and i truth his post most of the time but i have not gotten the game yet thinking about it but to call him noob is like calling, you're self-one WHATEVER.
Small team has turned this game around meanwhile Star Citizen...... well nevermind
That game is like a myth really
Not really, quarterly patches to the alpha are showing very steady progress now. Unless you are actually involved in the alpha then it's silly to comment. Performance has also improved a lot, all the evidence is quite reassuring. Luckily some people are willing to take risks with their money to make great games happen, all of you kids shouting and screaming online without actually having any direct insight on the SC dev process are just, well, typical examples of ignorant people being loud online without having any real insight to offer, nothing new there. If you are only ever willing to back small-medium scale projects where no real risk or innovation is involved, with a focus on a quick release (AAA industry) well you all deserve publishers like EA basically.
Tyyr Grav he's lying to himself because he know he's fucked up lol
I spent $35, less than the release price of the game. I'm happy to support the project with my money, because it couldn't exist otherwise. So keep on getting your panties in a twist instead of using logic and reason, it's entertaining and sad at the same time - Some people just thrive off of online drama and hysteria, such as yourselves.
i've dipped in regularly fpr 3 years and still dont see a game worth playing. i'm not anti-SC, still invested and looking forward to it, but i gotta say its disappointing
Thank you Mack for the excellent WAB. Your opinion has always been valuable to me in choosing games. You have good taste as you have never thumbed up a game which I have bought which I have then regretted purchasing 😝. Thanks for making my pennies go further by alerting me as to how to save 2 quid on my purchase of no man’s sky. 🙂
Best gaming comeback of all time
Wrong, that belongs to the best game of all time Vampire Bloodlines.
Being the greatest in something that shouldn't be a thing is still not a good thing. Games should have to do comebacks at all. They robbed a lot of people of their money with false promises, that years down the line turned into a half way decent game. Not really something i'd wanna be known for. And after all the delays and f*ck ups they still ask a tripple A value price for it. Ya can't throw 2 scoops of sugar on a pile of shit and call it sweet.
Belthazor Rocket League I don't know about best comeback of all time, but credit where credit is due.
Kangakickz
Rainbow six siege>>>>>No mans sky
John Hamm Credit for what? They shot people in the foot intentionally and now we are giving them credit for getting the band aid about 2 years later?
No Man's Sky has sinned but repented, and we have resolved its sins.
The angels are clapping in applause.
Absolved?
But within him beats a mortal heart that will one day be tempted to corruption. On that day, will he have the strength to resist or Will_ He_ Be_ OUR DOOM?
Not by a long shot
Han Lockhart because the man didn’t give up he wanted a game like this and so do everyone else so he formed it yes it got rough in the beginning and the game is pointless but thats the true launch of a game start off horrible and useless and update it to a fine work of art this game is worth buying now and sean still is working on the massive updates this is a real developer and team this is a real company with a good developer and loyal crew this is how you make a good game not by abandoning it and not putting it to its potential god bless Sean and his company
Dont use the words, the words, if you don't understand what the words mean, ok idiot?
Sold man, sounds great
AlexA1591 wait till you spend your first 15 hours in the game just to lose it all to a corrupted save bug that will happen to you.
The Big Enchilada fuck that, really? is that a common bug atm then?
AlexA1591 yeah, it’s probably fixed by now but if you’re like me and played before the patch then that progress is gone.
This or Srar wars
Did you experienced any bugs?
I never got on the hype train and actually never played it when it first released, it just passed me by. I mostly sat and chuckled at the shit show that took place after the release. But about a week before NEXT released I bought it and started playing. I actually didn't even know there was a new update coming. And oh boy have I had fun. With NEXT it's gotten even better. Like crazy good! The best game of 2018 was released in 2016, weird huh...
Just wait until the 7dtd Update comes out ;)
I'm in the same boat as you, I didn't join the hype train and sat and laughed at the chaos that came after release. Now I'm actually considering getting it, seems like a fun game.
this game is SHIT! It is so shit it is unbelievable. Stop misleading people
Simon Johansson yes you did you coward
Thomas Morris Wat?
No words words words and it's actually worth a buy. It's like I'm taking crazy pills.
William Eichmann I might give give give it a go now
*There's a theory that the stuff promised would of never been possible at launch. So they lied to get big sales which then gave them the budget to actually make the No Man's Sky that was promised.*
Hmm interesting
That is exactly What happened
Literally fake it til u make it
"theory"
But that's just a theory... A conspiracy theory! Thanks for watching.
I really hope they keep this up. If they make the same amount of progress in the next two years, this game will be something amazing. And maybe even what we were expecting at launch.
You clearly missed the pre original release hype. What was promised is more than can actually be done outside of maybe massive supercomputing clusters. This looks like it'll do, tho. :)
@@michaelkreitzer1369 You were saying? The game now is more than anything they ever promised in the early days.
I’m absolutely loving this update. Thanks for calling it like it is, and giving credit where credit is due regarding the team at hello games.
Well that's a plot twist and a half
Mack...Don't ever stop reviewing...I always look forward to your reviews and can never stop busting out in laughter as I watch. No one does it as brutally frank as you.... I've waited to buy this game since its launch and now I think its time. Looks like loads of fun after the updates. Thanks Mack!
Here's something you gotta remember. About 90% of the way through development, Hello Games Studio was flooded! They had said that it had effected some of their progress, yet they didn't delay the game. Or, weren't allowed to? They had a contract with SONY, and were funded by them for the release of their game on that specific date. Perhaps SONY forced Hello Games' hand and didn't want to see a delay, and made them release what they had. And what they had was MAYBE less then they had before the flood. Anyone else agree? Coulda been false hype and lies. Or it could have been a good company being punished for something they had no control over..
MrRATpHace Sony's hands were dirty insofar as they were heavily tied to the game and HAD to have known it would not live up to its promises. They marketed it heavily so they created that hype morsoe than Sean Murray. They also had to have been involved in deciding it's $60 price tag. I'm sure your right and they made sure it was "forced out the doors when it really needed lot's more time.
lol it was announced for a while before the flood I remember the articles and the pictures but nice try
My father in law is a Geordie gamer... this is just like listening to him rant down pub; love it! Subbed.
Tbh warping is a loading screen that theyve slapped an animation. But otherwise no loading screens.
Yeah, devs have found ways to hide loading screens in all sorts of games. Any time you have to wait for something is likely a loading screen in the background.
One of the best things they did to this game was turning the red crystals into compressed carbon (instead of the only launcher fuel) and creating frequently-spawning dihydrogen fuel for the launch thrusters.
One of the worst feelings when the game first came out was trying to decide when to land your ship on a planet because relaunching it was like losing a leg. Especially in survival mode.
But now the fuel sources are so much more reasonable to make and you can’t get stranded on planets anymore. That is also nice.
10/10
"....all 6 of them" xD
Yes that bit was hilarious when I watched it back, I mean all 6 of the team not all 6 of his arses :)
Multiplayer is even better now. You can join their game and you still have you base and even when you leave their game your base just continues. Lots of UI improvements and more quests. Still a lot of repetitive buildings but I barely need them with all the other stuff to do.
I'm almost positive that the tutorial is different for everyone. You spawn on a random planet and that's where the tutorial begins. I think you just got unlucky, hahaha.
No Mans Sky, as of today Sept 2022... is amazing. Its come a long long way, even in just the couple years I have been playing.
Its one if my favorite games, I have over 1600 hours.
Its a very niche game, its like black liquorice... you either love it or hate it.
Its not really like anything else. And a lot of people don't know how to handle not being pushed along and forced in any particular direction, not having a solid definition of what "sucess" is or dealing with the multitude of ways there are to be sucessful. No ticking clock, no pursuing enemies, no restrictions on advancement or travel... a lot of gamers dont know wtf to do without being told.
And there are so many items to find, craft and upgrade and so many systems to make money and nanites and so many things to spend them on and so many roles you can choose for yourself...
There is always something to do. I really got into building, its the best building in gaming. Especially once you learn the advanced techniques/glitch building.
I agree though, there is a bit of redundancy when it comes to assets. Theres a ton of different plants, animals, buildings, planet styles etc... but you do see the same stuff all the time. And there are no inhabited planets really... settlements and the odd NPC station but no cities or hostile populations beyond sentinel-heavy planets. Thats really all I can complain about.
I have that hairs on the back of my neck watching this. So happy you did this review. Iv being playing this from day one, got burned but stuck with it. Bit by bit it's becoming becoming. Love it.
I'm on the edge of buying it. I'm not entirely sure if I want it yet or not, I'm just scared of getting bored. I normally play things like Fallout and red dead. I want immersion and purpose that keeps me going, not tedious copy and paste quests if you know what I mean? Also, can you build ships in this or not?
I'm gonna trust you on this Mack.... Don't let me down!
What did you think?
We’re waiting...
i got it.... i actualy like it :3.. its adictive btw
Haven't been able to sit down with it properly yet. Installed and booted it up and like Mack said, damn that tutorial is some mean annoying piece of work. Other than that it ran quite smood it seemed. I'll come back to it over the weekend! ;D
SOOOOooo...........?
I'm loving this game now. I've had it since release but only just now been putting the hours into it. There is so much to do, quests and tech unlocking. The planets are locking better and more varied too. Well done Sean!
Dammit. You released this right as I'm headed to work. Maybe watch it during my students projects lol.
Nah man, don't do it, watch it at home and at ease...treat yourself! :)
When did you decide to watch it?
Picked it up today on sale off the back of the words the words of this re-review, having a lot of fun, thank you my friend!
Your review influenced my purchase, i'm installing right now, it actually looks like what i wanted at launch.
This review is eye opening. Seriously sounds like Space Minecraft where the beginning is Minecraft and the end is EVE where you own a space station in the end. Man, creative juices are flowing. Thanks Mack, gotta check this out now. This is a miracle.
Mack, you should go into advertisement. You would be INSANELY successful.
Watched this with tears in my eyes..Beautiful review.
Thank you Mack!
Yet! Lol
Hey Mack,
You are an absolute champion. I was 10 yrs old when I got ELITE on the BBC. Was an Xmas present from my mother , a complete surprise. Best Xmas I ever had as a kid. I absolutely loved that game. I backed the Kick Starter for ELITE Dangerous. I was in awe when I saw David was remaking it. After installing it the joy I felt as a kid came back. It was awesome. But like you I was extremely disappointed by the fact there were no thargoids. I'm not sure if you have played Elite Dangerous recently but I'd love to see you re-review it like you have done for No Man's Sky. I watched your first review of no mans sky and once I could finally stop myself from laughing so hard I decided not to buy it based on your review. Then I saw this review and I was like holy shit I have to have it! I am over 50 hours in to it now and am loving it. If only Elite had this much content when you land on a planet instead of the single outpost on a derelict planet with not a single f!%@$n thargoid in site! (DING!) I do have to use an Xbox controller on my PC to fly though. Flying with the mouse is impossible. If I could merge the two games I'd have the ultimate game. We could call it No Man's ELITE!! (DING!)
*LET THE RING, BEGIN!*
Simte nope
l like that he came back to this game and post more information on the update and improvements this helps us make good decision on a game we maybe would think about buying, BIG THANKS TO YOU, but don't use payoff for sales is what make us stop watching people sites, for we are trusting you to be honest and professional about what you review, again thanks.
He puts work in this, he deserves to be compensated.
Star Citizen is doomed now.
No man's sky budget is 2 million,compare that with star citizen being 185 million and they keep asking for more and haven't finished the game..they're doomed indeed.
no man's sky next has achieved more with 16 people than elite dangerous horizons with 100 people.
Not even in the slightest.
The number one thing that I think people need to understand about NMS is that no matter what, it is a survival game, which is a fact that isnt going to change. That's a big, popular genre, but it's not for everyone. That genre always has the same sort of gameplay loop and NMS is no exception: Gather resources so you can survive, so you can gather more resources, to survive more, and maybe get some improvements and machines, to get resources better and have more options, to survive more..... you get the idea. Survival games are always quite repetitive and tend to have ALOT of "resource grind", but holy heck do you have alot of freedom and there are always about a bazillion things to do despite the repetition. It might sound silly, but I always compare NMS to Dont Starve, as it really is the same gameplay loop and alot of the same concepts. Though this has a MUCH higher emphasis on exploration and it's quite a bit less brutal than Dont Starve is (unless you play on the harder of the two modes... then it gets cruel). If you like survival games, you're gonna freaking love this, and the exploration elements are going to just improve the formula even more. But if you dont like them, this one likely wont change your mind on that genre. So all of that should be kept in mind before deciding to buy or not.
Ya know what this game also reminds me of... Starflight. Ooooooold space game from way back when. It's like a super-modern version of that. I adored that game, so this has been fantastic to me. I am absolutely loving this and it's been fascinating to watch this make such an astonishing comeback... heck, even most of my friends are playing this. Despite most of them declaring it to be horrible early on.
Damn dude, I might actually have to pick this up now. How expansive is the multiplayer though? Is there a limit to how many people can get into one co-op game? Is there an overall multiplayer like they were talking about two years ago, with hundreds of people on one server, but the universe is so vast that you'll hardly bump into anyone else?
4 player co-op...drop in drop out..if another player not in your party of 4 turns up they appear as a glowing orb..u can see the orb and know it's another player but can't interact..your party of 4 friends all have proper character models (space suits) with full interaction like trading items, gesturing + more etc.. and can change your race to any of the other races in the game with full customisation on any space station for free...sorry it's long explanation.. it's hard to cram all the crazy new stuff it's a totally different game.
There was never talk about hundereds of people being on server. MP was always going to P2P within a system and limtied to just a few players at one time. This was put into the game 1 year ago with 1.3. Next is an expansion onto that system.
And there are no plans to expand co-op to 16 players. Thats a lie. People are still No Mans Skying i see. The game currently supports up to 16 players in an instance. But only 4 can drop in, the rest have to be on location through thier saves. There aren't plans to increase the amount of co-op players.
Wylie28 What? If you look at the original interviews with Murray, he actually states that yes, the original goal was to have thousands of people on a server at once. However, he also said that since the universe they were creating was so large, the possibilities of actually running into anyone were very very small.
He never said that. The original plan for multi was exactly what we got in 1.3. I have a feeling you have no idea what the difference between an instance and a server is. Servers do host 10s of 1000s of people. But an instance will not contain more than 16. Very standard for video games. Clientside hardware cannot handle that many networked objects in a game.
"Learn the words, the words.... of the aliens" - brilliant one :D
NMS Worth a buy confirmed?!!! Hell yea
I'm from Canada and usually the conversion rate on the prices at greenmangaming don't make up for the additional 10% off they usually give. Is that different for the UK?
It really is amazing now, I bought it a week ago after seeing this updated review. I just love it. Glad I saved money and time waiting until it got fixed.
What they did was unacceptable, but they get points for recovering it to such a degree.
Downloading this on January 17th of 2021. Pretty hyped for it seeing Mac was this happy with it two years ago
I’ll actually buy it.
People need to remember that this game was created and developed by a very, very small team. It's not a triple A title with hundreds or more people working on it. The game isn't for everyone too: it is about (for me at least) relaxation and enjoying views, not what some people thought like huge MMO space battles, etc.
A hell of a lot of these "new" features Mack goes on about were all there in the original release, as far as I can tell. I don't think Mack took a long enough look at the original game, I'm not saying it hasn't improved in many ways, just not as many as Mack says.
Yeah but a lot of those mechanics that were already there has gotten more interesting by giving the game better progression and sense of purpose. Sure, you could find a ship at release but if you didn't even wanna keep playing, it didn't feel as rewarding.
I think the best way of looking at it is that NMS was originally released in an alpha state. Much of framework for the game was more or less there, but not finished, not balanced, not tied together into a coherent whole. The three big exceptions would be base building, land vehicles, and multiplayer, each of which are completely new systems requiring a lot of new code.
A good example of what I mean by the basic framework existing all the way from the original version would be the crafting system. All the functional bits were there from the beginning - you could craft upgrades, and you could craft items. The problem was that the items you could craft were mostly useless (other than warp drive fuel anyway), and you just got the upgrade recipes from random loot. Now there's a real crafting tree of sorts, and resource distribution makes more sense, and you buy blueprints from merchants. Really, it barely added anything at all, it just had some assembly (and balancing) required!
It's like one of those plastic models, comparing it from when you just open the box to the finished, assembled model. The state of the model looks completely different! But the real work was done way earlier, by the guy who meticulously modeled every little piece and the other guy who got the molds in the factory fabricated and...
Now there are still components of NMS that need some love. Mack already mentioned the buildings, which would definitely benefit from some nice procedural generation. Mind you, procedurally generating buildings and having floor layouts make sense and having the details work harmoniously is easier said than done! There have been some interesting reasearch papers written about this in recent years, mostly in the context of generating cityscapes, and with a decent bit of deep learning mixed in, but there is still a lot to discover. Another improvement could be in animal spawning rules. Proper herds, sensible predator/prey balance, that sort of thing.
The bottom line in any case is that the pieces of NMS are no longer scattered around on the table, but are beginning to really fit together into a whole.
It’s always been that game I go back to when I just wanna explore and chill with nothing too exiting. Now it’s been brought back to life and I’m so buzzed for it.
When Steam gives you two hours to refund, then devs really need to put more effort into tutorials to hold the players interest and to make them keep wanting to play.
didnt gog offer full refund ?
Mack would you say it's better than Elite with the Horizons expansion?
So you're telling me that the developer of no man's sky is actually now better than chris roberts and star shitizen?
I can't wait till the day SC drops and all you haters eat your own shit
0utta S1TE i dont care if it takes 10 years. I paid $50 to back the game. Even if it never comes out, I'm not too worried about $50. That's how investment's work.
0utta S1TE they take that risk. If they aren't willing to lose money then they shouldn't invest. It's in the user agreement.
Jeff Hanshew NMS being a more complete game then SC must sting a little. It’s okay little buddy, someday SC will become a REAL game.
Major Glitch not really. I am playing NMS and loving it. So your comment is futile. I'll give your "insult" an A for effort. Better luck next time little buddy.
I fucking love your humor Mack. Makes my shitty days in work so much better.
I stayed far away from this game thanks to your original review, but with this updated review im ready to jump into this game. I have to agree with you, they could have ran with their millions, renamed their company and brought out a new game instead they got their hands dirty and turned this turd ship into a sailing wonder.
Def do an updated review of NMS, Mack. Go into it with a fresh take from late 2022. I'd love to hear your thoughts.
the tutorial doesn't really hold your hand like it used to and i find this game a lot harder now you have to do a lot more with getting resource than before, anyone else find the interface a little bit more harder to get used to or is it just me lol
press down(ps4), and you get short-cuts.
Outstanding review. I didn't think it was going to be possible for Mack to convince me to give this a second thought, but he did.
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Is the ground combat any good? Does your base get raided? Do you fight hostile aliens or space pirates on the planets?
It is funny tho, a lot of the things mac is happy about in this game have not changed at all from 2016. Ex like finding finding a ship on a planet and fixing it and taking it
I don't thing you understand that this is a game review, ofc I am going to mention stuff that was present in 2016 such as the trading system on the space stations and the mining and grinding, do you expect me to just not mention them? New players will not have seen the other review so i had to cover all bases. You are totally wrong though about lots of stuff I am happy with were in the 2016 build, you only named "one" and that is simply because you can't think of any more :p
Its more transparent now and the mechanics are more fluid so things feel more involved and dynamic
Alex Schmidt I guess now that a lot of the bullshit has been ironed out the other stuff is easier to appreciate
I think the different ships now feel like different ships... In the original release, a ship was only defined by its inventory space
And the things he disliked are still there, like the shallow grind.
Sorry if you answered this already, but which do you prefer now, NMS or Elite? I re-tried Elite a couple months ago but dropped it after a couple weeks. I'm 40+ hours into this now since NEXT dropped and i'm still going.
The Warping is a loading screen.
Beanieman he said going from planets to planets, not to different solar systems
yo mama's so fat she warps space time.
Beanieman yes but it makes sense. You can't travel to another galaxy in the snap of a finger, it's faster to travel through the same solar system.
Mack, I was on the fence about buying this after being so disappointed at launch, but your review convinced me to buy it again on PC.
5 hours in, I jump into my 4th new system to find a freighter under attack. I help the ship out, the captain invites me on board and the crazy bastard makes me the new captain. So I've gone from the starter ship to commander of a huge freighter and its support fleet of frigates.
I don't even speak a single word of their language.
"Mining and grinding and mining and grinding and mining and grinding and.....ding! ding!" LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
is he talking about elite dangerous grind ? lol
Man I love your reviews, #1 reviewer in my eyes, been watching for years and based many buying decisions on your reviews. It is rare that you get someone that will so easily tear a game to shreds and show everything that sucks, but also has an open mind enough to go back later and re review something like this, kudos! Keep up the great work!!!
For the haters complaining about grinding, there's creative mode.
There is also survival mode. Wtf is hard about varying your activities? GOd damn. People need to start taking responsibility for thier own stupidity these days.
grind ? after grinding in elite dangerous, no game has enough grind to scare me.
Hmmm. I wonder if Mack is gonna revisit this game one day? 😬
The werds the werds
How is the Hotas support in this? I played a tonne of Elite Dangerous a while back, just wondering how this game controls with a flight stick, or if its actually just good with a mouse and keyboard....
thanks
seriously mack?.... you mentioned integrity, how much were you payed for this bag of lies... very disappointed.
lol i though the same, other than the fact that multiplayer finally works (which of course should have from the beginning) I don´t see any significant changes.
The redemption arc of the goddamn century. This needs a documentary of some sort.
lol Internet Historian's video is basically a documentary
If only this was a star wars game! It be sweet if you can mod pc copy with sw stuff. Disney give the license to hello games be better the casualfront 2.
So i was pretty inactive and maybe you mentioned this topic in another Video but whats going on with your other channel? Are the Videos returning or whats up with that?
I still wont buy this
Star Citizen:
- Massive hype kickstarter generating millions of funds.
- Online shop generating hundreds of millions over the course of 6 years.
- 6 years later, all we have is some meh betas for a couple of modes and an all-ships complete pack that costs $100k (only available to people who have already spent $1k+).
- 6 years later, still waiting for the complete game I was promised when I preordered. Maybe in 60 more years SC will be a complete product.
No man's Sky:
- Started with hype but flopped hard.
- Source of "No Man's Lie" memes for 2 years.
- Despite heavily limited funds (flopped release, refunds, and barely anyone bought it since release), 2 years later the product we were promised is pretty much here.
- Actually worth buying now, and has more content than star citizen.
I'm fucking done. NMS was the only game I had even less faith in than SC, now it's completely turned around and I'm having a blast with it.
Star Citizen is a pile of shit. 350+ million and there still in early alpha... How much money do they need?
I don't get what purpose there is if everything is still generic and repetetive. Not a big difference from the original version imho
MU200 there’s a 30 hour campaign
All survival games are repetitive and generic, in fact most games are period. How many times have you looted the same house in 7 Days to Die or Minecraft? What do you want 18 trillion hand crafted planets? Some people won't be satisfied until Hello Games create a real virtual galaxy, Sean Murray may have made some outlandish claims in the past, I don't recall being God was one of them. If you don't actually know what's in the new version your opinion is anything but humble and entirely worthless.
I disliked the inital version and this one doesn't make it any better. Why would I build a base if there's no enemy, why would I upgrade my ship if there's nothing waiting for me? The campaign might be 30 hours but 30 hours of nothing special. Don't argue with Minecraft, Fortnite etc. You play Fortnite because it's competetive. You play Minecraft because it had insanely creative and diverse multiplayer modes and single player mods. This game in comparison is like Minecraft early alpha. This game should be about exploring and there just isn't anything to explore after you've played for a couple of hours.
How do you know you haven't played it.
Osric Just seen about everything there is to it. Tell me if there is something that isn't shown in any of the leaked videos from a couple days back.
Great WAB Mack, my sentiments exactly. Almost 200 hours now in the "Next" version and wasn't more than 10 hours in before I gave up in the previous one. It's honestly great fun now!
The words "too little too late" come to mind.
Ehm yeah bomb threats and death threats is to little to late ehhh
Apparently people don’t know the words “forgive” either.
"too little" l m a o
Great on point review! You can’t review this game without putting TIME in. This is the only space exploration game with full features. You fly, land, walk, build, mine, develop, economy, trade, multiplayer, freighters, stations, land vehicles, etc, etc!
How can anyone support a development team like this? Just out of principle nobody should buy this game.
NextPlanetGaming at least they fixed their mistake
And nobody is buying your comment
iPhones are made in Chinese sweatshops. Out of principle, we shouldn't buy them, yet here we are.
Woupsme thats not a redeeming point tho. Ofc the updates should be free. Look at the damn price tag of this game. If the updates would've cost stuff that would've been the scummy way to go for the devs. Free updates shouldnt be a "redeeming point". They should be the standard.
lol what principle is that... was you a fan of hitler and world war 2? no... so are you gonna pass on the opportunity to drive or buy a Porsche because it german?
think about what you are saying mate, your chopping off your nose to spite your face, you should buy a game for you, not skip it to make a point nobody is going to see, hello games wont be sitting there saying ''shiiiiit, nextplanetgaming isn't buying our game'' and nobody else is either, the only one that misses out is you. buy something you want because you like it otherwise you miss all the best things in life and nobody cares, I hate apple, but if they make something amazing that I want ill buy it I don't give a shit if I hate them and their practices or not lol
Hi Mack, Does Green Man Gaming have a platform that you have to play their games through (like steam), or is it a pure game download (as if you had bought CD/DVD)?
The keys are from steam
So if I buy a game from Green Man gaming, it will show up on my Steam Library? Sorry for the Noob questions
Another huuuge thing is that they've continually updated the planets and terrain generation. It's outstanding now, with near Earth like scale. Mountains, oceans, continents etc.
Really really loving the new planets, and I'm a day one player who has been through all the updates over the last 2 years.
All the buildings look the same, but I just assumed they were just like modular pods that a race would send down. But in that case I would expect every race to have their own modular pods. I'm not sure if different races have different buildings or not.
I didn't play the old NMS much, maybe 15-20 minutes, before I dropped it like a hot potato. But I came back now to check things out and oh goodness ... so immersive! It's absoultely great.
First time I watch a video on this channel, but I fell in love with your accent immediatley.
I purchased right before Next. I was dumbfounded at how bad the tutorial was, I died my first 5 starts, then Next hit and something clicked. I'm almost through the tutorial and loving it. Thanks for the updated WAB. I agree completely.
Hi Mack, this is nothing special but i just wanted to say that i've been watching your videos for at least 2-3years now. I've been also enjoying videos on your 2nd channel "Mackscorner" - i hope you didnt abandon it. :) Anyways, before i found you on youtube i was always a huge fan of TB (since ~2008) and after he passed away i have to say you have the best review videos here on this platform by far - at least for my taste and i am a bit older gamer (i started gaming in 1990/91).
Thank you & keep up the good work!
Great re-review! Can you play in third person when walking on the planets? (I can't play FP makes me feel sick!)
Yes
what´s the name of the tune you use at the thumb up-down screen?
What's the name of the keyboard you're using that confuses accute accents with apostrophes? It seems like half the Internet is using them. Thanks.
i have no idea what you mean, my native language is not english so bare me with your corrections ty.
I found a little moon which is a paradise, it’s so bright and there are no hostile creatures so it’s so nice
Quick question, you said you had a fleet? Are you able to say, recruit NPCs to fly ships for you?
When you use the teleporter at the station you get a loading screen.When you warp from the Star map thats also a loading screen.I love this game though and i am very impressed with Hello Games work.No Mans Sky is a work of art.
What an honest reviewer.