Это видео недоступно.
Сожалеем об этом.
New Game Bust - Mega Man Battle Network 4 Review (PART 2)
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 23 май 2021
- 2021 is the 20th anniversary of Mega Man Battle Network! Join me in celebrating the highs and lows of this amazing RPG series one entry at a time.
----------------------------
The reason Laserman is such a joke is because he has super armor, which means he doesn't get i-frames after getting hit, unlike EVERY OTHER BOSS.
I love how Match just threatened to blow the stadium up, but wasn’t disqualified or arrested.
Regal surviving falling off a building doesn't make any sense, but to be fair we did see Wily survive a bunch of explosions.
I mean he is Wily's son. So that explains how uber durable he is.
Like father like son.
Hey, where'd you get that body from? 🎶I got it from my daddy!🎶
And in the X series Sigma and Vile get rebuilt a dozen times.
In Legends Tron Bonne survives being blown out of her giant robots numerous times, albeit not her clothes the one time. 😆
Basically in Megaman. The mortality rate on falls explosions and numerous other things are very slim most of the time. Lmao
@@SHMEGAF Speaking of Sigma, X8 trying to say "this time he's gone for good" is especially laughable.
Is he supposed to be gone for good because he's been destroyed on the moon and there is nothing around for him to possess? Because in X4 he was blown to scrap in orbit of Earth and he came back from it.
“Let’s set this place on fire!”
Seriously, Fireman? Come on, way too soon.
Match: I'm gonna burn this place to the ground!
:girlfriend in audience:
Match: We gotta stop the bombs!
"Prevents stadium of of burning to the ground"
Match: Lets set this place on fire!
Everyone: /facepalm
😂
I think he means a figurative sense though but he still does it literally do it in a lesser amount.
That said, the 9:56 bit of Mr. Match going "Heh, Lan, you're... raring to go" instead of the expected "...all fired up" is maybe the one solid joke in this game.
So Sparkman’s 7 digit password can be cheesed, there’s no penalty for getting it wrong and the old man even tells you which ones you got right so you can easily brute force through it.
I got lazy and just googled the code.
No more than ten tries if he tells you which digits are correct.
0000000
1111111
2222212
2333313
2434413
2535513
2536613
2537713
2538813
2539813 [SUCCESS]
@@Wolf_3125
You can’t do that, that’s the point of this post. It’s random for every play through.
@@kennethlatorre5269 The game is over 15 years old. No one cares 🤣
@@kennethlatorre5269 i mean wouldnt we theoretically beable to cheese it since presumably each hint indicates to a specific number? Or did they account for that and include random variables with the count too?
"This old Gramps is going on about how the Japane- I mean Electopians are a bunch of sissies"
So he'll never forgive the japanese?
"I'll never forgive the Electopians!"
my mind went straight to that when I first saw it.
The virgin race bait Vs. the chad Jojo reference
r/UnexpectedJoJo
*Talking about Elec Damage in the video*
Me: *Flashbacks of spamming "Thunder" chips against enemies with continuous stun*
Ohhh.. this brings back Vietnam War in Network Transmission... YOU KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT!!!!
Also... very X6 in level design....
@@sirwolfy9372 Network Transmission is infinitely better than X6. It's not anywhere near X4, mind, but it's certainly in the mid-tier X range.
@@UltimaKeyMaster actually... NO! I still like X6 more but just personal opinion.
I hate Network Transmission due to Grindind GREAT CHIPS which is worse then GRINDONG NIGHTMARE SOULS!
Also... 100% NT is F* MORE ABNOXIOUS then 100% X6... also if you know what are you doing in X6 you can skip most if not faster then you think the game
@@sirwolfy9372 NT being far more playable outweighs the grind of it technically being worse.
It's only worse if you actually care about grinding every chip to get to Bass. In X6 it's borderline required to get certain Parts to progress in the first Gate stage, so you gotta not only grind but pray you don't get the parts you need killed.
At least if you wanna grind chips in NT, you can just run back and forth and slay the same fairly easy enemies over again. You can't even do that in X6, you gotta leave the stage to grind the Nightmares and you can only grind off Dynamo if you know to hit him with his weakness.
The only chip that's bad to grind honestly is the one from the Rush virus that needs a kajillion shots in a row.
X6 is far more cryptic to grind and you NEED to grind, NT has more OF an OPTIONAL grind that's 99% of the time far more manageable.
Update on 35:35
As of November 2022, Mega Man 11 is now the best selling game in the franchise, with Mega Man 2 now being the 2nd Best Selling game, and Battle Network 4 (both versions combined) in 3rd
Batlle Network at 5 in the morning, let's go!
lets goooooo!!! megaman, battle routine, execute!!!!
It's 3am here but legs go*(:
Anger can usually happen when you a hit with a move that stuns you, or stun locks you, as that still counts as taking 300 damage
the first part of your comment could be in BN4 the rest makes sense
Yes, I DID have to make you listen to the tournament theme every single time. I want you to hate it as much as I do now...
P.S. I'm not playing the game a third time. Sorry. Twice was MORE than enough for me.
It sounds too fucking cool for me to be mad about it, god i hope BN5 gives you an easier time.
@@OmegaJX bn5 doesn't have to be played 3 times, so yeah probably
I like the tournament theme tho
@@AniP_art This, just this, im gonna attempt my 3rd playthrough, i pray to god i don't lose my sanity.
John, would this be a bad time to mention I'm planning to make a comprehensive Let's Play of this series? One that included all of the answers to SparkMan's hints?
For those who want to know WindMan's story, since KNI didn't play it: The opponent is an Indian girl, the same age as Lan, who accidentally had rice wine in her water canteen, and goes on a drunken rampage, sending WindMan to cause trouble. It's basically the same as VideoMan's quest without the inverted controls, and instead of panels on the ground, there are timed gusts of wind that you need to hide from or get sent back to the start of the area. You make it to WindMan, the girl manages to sober up, forgetting she was drunk and then getting drunk again right before your match. It is a painfully unfunny "comedy" segment that is ENTIRELY hinged on how funny you think an underage girl accidentally getting wasted is.
YIKES.
Thanks for sharing, anyhow, though!
Thank you. I really wanted to know but didn't want to experience for myself lol
By the way I hear there are a few other things. Namely Bass and something called Black Earth. Can you say anything about that?
More importantly, she was a he in the original version. They obviously changed it in English because of how effeminate he was, but didn't change all the pronouns: hence, "What a nice young man she was."
@@cjhedrick6418 wait, really?
This review is so refreshing 😂 "Free PET maintenance"
Lol at that "Hot Navis" meme 😂
👀
Oh man, if you thought the translation was bad, you should've played Blue Moon. ProtoMan's scenario involved a pixel hunt in the Undernet for multiple keys where your only clues are vague and often mistranslated hints. And I really do mean pixel hunt, because nothing gives away where a key is hidden and some places look identical, so without a map, you're spamming A on every title of this giant area, getting assaulted by the worst viruses in the game and potentially forgetting what you've checked in your frustration.
that was rough, but ProtoSoul was worth the trouble XD I always do the Django Scenario while I'm doing Protomans Quest
Is a good thing I choose Redsun would not want to do that scenario I almost raged when I got to the Netfrica scenarios >_>
@@SonBlackHeart22 from my experience, the red sun souls are better than the blue moon souls
@@Phoenix_Blader_93I think Aqua Soul is better than Thunder Soul Aqua has the bubbler buster which is good.
@@Phoenix_Blader_93 there is no better soul than Wood Soul, so BlueMoon Souls undebately win.
Even though RedSun has the HolyDream GigaChip...
This game can be a nightmare for completion.
You can't just simply expect to blast through the first and second playthrough because the enemies on the third run will be the strongest versions of the viruses and so you won't be able to get the previous versions chips.
So that combined with the blue mystery data which also returns with different chips means you have to meticulous search the entire game for both enemies and chips 3 times. If you want 100% completion. Which is asking a bit much.
Agreed. Though I lucked out by virtue of going out of my way to grind my Standard count in the chip library to 100 on each first playthrough (which seems to be the absolute maximum) I did on these games.
oh yeah, don't ever try to imo. I actually really like BN4 despite its issues a lot but even I don't recommend doing something that crazy or stupid hell wouldn't recommend it for any of these games, least of all this one
I feel like they could have easily implemented at least some of the darkchip/nebula/shade man plot into the tournament scenarios. Maybe not all of them, but it'd make sense for, say, Match and Fire Man to get tempted with Dark Chips or something, right? Or heck, god forbid you give Dex and GutsMan an actual character beat of being frustrated they always lose to MegaMan and nearly huffing dark chips. Like, it's already 'character does bad thing, megaman stops them from doing bad thing, tournament fight,' and Dark Chips are what the game is ostensibly about, it's bizarre that not a single scenario even references them.
Maybe this is something that affects Red Sun more, because Blue Moon's Protoman scenario is pretty much this... and it's the only scenario that has this going for it, which is worse somehow. Oh, and it also caused a man to have a breakdown. lparchive.org/Mega-Man-Battle-Network-4-6/Update%2011/
@@hostiusasinhostilityhostil7853 The only scenarios about Nebula are SearchMan and ProtoMan's, and both are RNG scenarios at the end of the game. But yes, Dark Chips are very underutilized in the series.
@@hostiusasinhostilityhostil7853 this is the funniest shit I’ve ever read
or heck just a darkloid or two entering the tournament under a disguise (like netbattler q from 3)
I think they were tasked with reaching a certain number of hours that the game had to reach but they were given a super small budget and time to do it in.
Bugfrags in BN3 are significantly more important to the postgame area (where the mandatory BugFrag Trader is), which is why you didn't consider them very important. That's more or less true for every game, actually, as the BugFrag trader worth trading at is USUALLY in the postgame area.
From what I remember only BN3 had Bug Frag traders while every other game had only shops
@@Xeno-The-Wanderer Really? Hmm. I recall grinding bugfrags in bn6 to get poisonseed since it's a bugfrag trader chip. Or maybe thats just my fuzzy memory...
@@roldanmarcelo1636 yes, that's a thing
@@roldanmarcelo1636 Nah, you're right. All BN games after 3 have Bug Frag traders
Secret Area 3 has one, Black Earth 2 has one, Nebula Area 7 has one, and Underground 2 has one.
If they prevented repeat scenarios, honestly the way their newgame+ ties into their random variations / plot points, thats not so bad. Atleast thats someeee reason to play the game again. Atleast playing the game again in a hard mode is somewhat of a normal thing ingames.
I was also told that you're guaranteed one generic navi per tournament. I get not getting both Soul Navis in a single tourney, but come on!
@@xanaguythelegend7770 My friends were able to get all of one games soul unisons in one play through, it seems you can just get lucky, I never was. I had both copies of the game and it did take 3 play throughs to get all of them on one, 2 on the other.
I think there's a patch for that.
@@DevilmanEnvoy Pretty sure that's actually impossible. People checked the code at some point, from what I'm told, it's hard coded to give you 3 souls on the first playthrough, 2 on the second and the last one on the third. The order of souls can change, but that's about it, from my understanding.
@@DevilmanEnvoy Dude, dont lie. The game was design so that you can't get all your souls in one walkthrough.
My most fond memories of these games were painstakingly deleting my save data and restarting when I didn’t get the tournament fights i wanted
That works?
@@rushalias8511 sort of. I don’t recommend it. You can’t get everything in one run but restarting basically resets the order of which souls you’ll get in your play through. It doesn’t work if you just turn the game on and off when the championship screen shows up, if you don’t want guts soul, you gotta delete your save data and try again
@@pianostick I know this is old, but I'm pretty sure you will 100% get Gutsman in RedSun and Aquaman in BlueMoon the first go through of each game.
Can we talk about the fact that they had the nerve to use most of the songs like "internet area", "tournament" and "danger/hurry" four games(by now) in a row?
I just want to say that despite how infuriating this game is, and clearly has been for you, I really appreciate how much you have gone through to bring us these videos. Thank you. On to better Battle Network games from here on out. That is, 5 and 6.
I remember my first playthrough of this game. After hearing that there are 6 double souls in this game, I wondered why I only finished the game with 3. I groaned over the fact I had to play the game again to get the rest but when I finished with just 5 and saw ANOTHER game plus, I just said f**k it. This game is the very definition of padding. The fact it sold better than most Mega Man games, speak less of its superior sequels and prequels baffles me beyond belief.
Apologies if this is annoying, but I figured I might as well say it for information's sake: Battle Network 1 to 3 are not prequels to 4. "Prequel" is short for "Pre-sequel" and it refers to a work's sequel (released after) with a plot that chronologically takes place before the events of the original. Something that is not a sequel (i.e. was released prior instead of after) cannot be a prequel, but would instead be a predecessor, prior release/title, or something akin to that.
For a random example: Yoshi's Island is a prequel to Super Mario World, as it was released after SMW but takes place in the past, when Mario was an infant.
Something to note, bn4’s sales figures are a result of how well received BN3 was. BN4 resulted in the poor sales of BN5 and 6.
Excited to see your thoughts on BN5, it's always been my favorite of the series.
Same. Colonel was my first BN game even.
@@verymelonman12 Same here, except BN6 was my first one.
If you can believe it, there is in fact ONE tournament scenario in this entire game that does in fact reference Nebula and Dark Chips......
The version exclusive Protoman scenario in Blue Moon. Of course, that's only from what I've heard, since I haven't actually played that scenario....
I love this series to death, and I've played each version of each game in this series at some point, but even I couldn't bring myself to play this game a SIXTH time just to see that final scenario. That about sums up my experience with this entry, right there.
Can confirm
I mean, I love Pokemon but I've always just played one version. Not both, but that's just me.
Yo KNI, as someone who found you through your Battle Network vids, you do a great job of summarizing the pros, cons, and AUUUUUUUUUUGHHHHHS of each BN game so far! Loving the content and keep it up!
Agreed!
Me hearing that they still sell this game on Nintendo E shop: oh really I might as well try this out
Me looking and seeing it’s available on the Wii U: oh never mind
Everyone's hoping for a Battle Network Legacy collection...
but it would really be nice for them to tidy up some of the BS of the old games while they're at it
Bruh, I was literally about to go sleep
oh no no. We ain't letting you off that easily:
**You're missing a Navi/Soul.**
Humor aside I feel for you. Having beat each version *OVER NINE TIMES* and unable to 100% it, I noped out and haven't touched it since. 5 was better sure, but god was 6 a breath of fresh air -.-.
@@huynhvuongviet2410 There was one wall in the undernet I couldn't get pass. I forget WHY, but basically it required a certain path of Tourney fights as I remember.
@@huynhvuongviet2410 Been over a decade, I don't even remember anymore.
@@huynhvuongviet2410 Wasn't secret areas, was a certain door with a certain BMD if I remember I couldn't reach. I can't tell you much more than that.
@@huynhvuongviet2410 He might be talking about the door that leads to Bass.
@@huynhvuongviet2410 There's no door in BN4's Undernet that's hides a BMD. There's Bass and there's the gate to Black Earth.
29:42 To be fair, most translation "Teams" for projects like this game would consist of a single translator, an editor, and, if you were lucky, someone else to implement the dialogue into the game. That being said, there's no excuse for this game's rampant script issues. The whole game reads like it never got a second pass.
The excuse is being a rushed deadline and not enough time spent into it. I blame more the management than the devs imo.
Something tells me some poor bilingual Japanese dude had to translate all of this in a very short time so we wound up with so many grammar and translation errors.
Most games only use a single translator or editor, regardless of size. I remember hearing a Yakuza game (2? Idk) had two editors. Which was more than normal.
Less people means ensures consistency in the script. Not just in terminology, but stuff like grammar.
If you put too many people into the project because you’re pressed for time, like Persona 5’s OG release (I don’t know how much of the localization was changed for Royal), you get an inconsistent mess.
About the plot, I think the writer was trying to emulate a kid's show. Since the anime was around at the same time as BN3 and it was a huge success for them. Maybe that's why there's an overarching villain plot that's just hinted throughout the adventure and the protagonists are actually dealing with episodic side quests essentially. But that's just especulation.
I'm just happy they abandoned that structure at 5, the best game for me.
Great review and congrats on playing this again, it's no simple task.
Isn't that just the battle network games anyway?
@@jackmist Yes, you're right. But the others kinda dip in the shonen territory. But maybe it's just good writing vs bad writing.
@@setteplays 🤷♂️
@@jackmist At least those events were done by the same organization. 4's tournament format involves random civilians while Nebula and Duo were relegated to the backseat at best.
For the life of me, I will never understand why Network Transmission is as hated as it is. I found that to be a fantastic game; so much so, that there's this part of me that genuinely wishes the side scroller/chip ammo concept was what they had used for Starforce.
Anyway, I absolutely agree with you that BN4 killed the franchise. I had 100% completed the three previous games, but had to slow down and slog through 4. My biggest fear was that I might be advancing to the next new game+ without collecting everything...which meant that, come pre final boss time, I would have to crack open a guide, and SCOUR the entire game. TWICE. Not only that, but essentially do it all in one sitting, for fear of putting the game down out of fatigue and then forgetting what I had and hadn't done yet.
...and then BN5 came out.
I played a Japanese rom of BN5 before it released in the US from start to finish. Despite my loose understanding of the plot from the guide I was following, I was having INFINITELY more fun than BN4. 5 would eventually release and I began playing it alongside my brother...but I kept being reminded that I would have to go back and finish 4. Eventually, I would beat 5's main story, but forbade myself from touching the endgame until I went back and finished 4.
...and then BN6 came out.
Same song and dance here. Got a rom, beat it and then picked up the english version. just like 5, 6 was great (better now that I could actually understand the plot). However, I still had to go back and finish 4. Eventually, I had to just force myself to stop playing 6 until I completed 4, so I never even beat it in english, nor have I truly seen the series' conclusion.
That was, like, a decade ago.
BN4 was such a chore to play, that it got in the way of me systematically completing these games. Now that the legacy collection is coming out, my brother and I have been joking about how we're going to deal with 4. Play it first and get it over with? Play it in order so that it burns us out for the next two? Play it last so that the journey ends on a sour note? I don't know. All I do know is that this game took all the momentum the series had and crashed and burned with it.
Funnily enough, I wonder how the ideas of Bass and Duo souls would have affected things. Like, as opposite spectrum rewards for players. Remove the -1HP dark chip thing and instead just gate, like, 1/3 of the chips between dark and light sides. Dark players can use dark chips, which are less about power and more about hyper strategic, twisted, troll-esque functionality. Think status effects and the like. Light players would be the opposite, straight forward, smash with the power of justice attacks. Remaining on one side for too long would alter Mega's appearance to be more like Bass or Duo and grant new abilities, separate from Unisons (which I would still allow both sides to use).
Or, OR. Just make a Bass version and a Duo version, each with a set of soul unisons more catered to the respective game's moral alignment. This way, the story beats would swap out interactions with Bass and Duo, possibly culminating in a final boss against the other. This way, Bass wouldn't just get ejected from the plot by being reduced to generic OP evil amnesia guy. You could instead have a story where Lan and Mega Man find and interact with him for the entire game, culminating in a soul unison by the end. The other soul unisons in the Bass version would be based off of formerly evil or bad guy navis in the process of reformation, Like Number Man and Fire Man. Bass can view humanity from various points, people who have been at their lowest and others who have worked their way back up as he restores his memories
The Duo version on the other hand, would be about him as an alien AI that lands on earth. His people believed in absolute justice, but ended up turning on themselves and destroying each other over the paranoia of corruption from evil. Duo can learn through Lan and Mega Man that no one is 100% good or evil and spend the game interacting with prominently 'good guy' characters, like Chaud and Raoul. However, we can see that even they have their darker sides, despite their good hearts, helping Duo to understand morality better.
All the while, Nebula is rising up in the background with dark chips. I wouldn't even make this a mechanic that could be used by the player, just a plot device, since soul unisons are enough to carry the game. Nebula wants either Bass or Duo's power for nefarious purposes, making them the ultimate bad guys of the game. Perhaps they obtain the other game's mascot and are building them up to be the final boss. Bass gets a massive power boost, goes nuts and must be quelled; Duo is captured and they attempt to build him up and use him, but he gets too powerful for them and is like, "yeah, humanity's scum," and must be fought instead.
Damn, this game really was a waste of potential. You could have built two versions of BN4 that deal with the concepts of good and evil, without having to mess around with a bonkers morality system. I mean, we all know Mega Man would never turn evil for any reason and the dark chip balance was so awfully skewed that it separated players. Oh well, at least 5 came in to clean up 4's mess.
PART 2 LEGS GOOOOOOOO
Ha
12:54 unfortunately... Yeah.
At least you still did this, SO I'm glad that you were so respectful and smart about it
Unfortunately is so true.
BUT smart people are aware and we both caught that :) the creator of this video is smart too
@@UltimaKeyMaster also THIS.
Battle Network 4. X7. Oversaturation of Mega Man in general which includes a MMZero game releasing on the SAME DAY as X7.
And people wonder why Mega Man died for a while.
Also, this game can be seen as the culprit as to why BN3 is seen as the best one to fans (in combination of likely just not having gone back to it for a while/being more in love with the Battle Chip Meta). They played Battle Network 4 and just didn't try the later entries. Which is a shame cuz BN6 is the absolute Peak of BN.
And Star Force is even *better*.
This is why battle network 4 deserve a wha happun video
Starforce is bad.
I think it really is a shame. Personally, I always liked BN4's battle system, which is awesome (and the reason why BN4 was my, well, "favorite" when I was 16), and thank goodness it is also present in BN5. It just makes me frown how BN4 brought a bunch of new ideas, but many of them were poorly executed. Even though I still do like this game (kinda), I am not going for 3 straight playthroughs. But, believe it or not, I'd rather do it than play BN1 just ONCE. At least BN5 and BN6 were awesome (despite far from being flawless) games.
@@HughAverageHomoMan SF1 is underwhelming/barebones in the gameplay department (they changed the dynamic, but didn't fully flesh the new direction out), but has a solid enough story, SF2 is bad (around BN4 level, maybe better or worse), SF3 is fantastic/has arguably the best gameplay in BN/SF.
I don't know what it was about BN6, but balance seemed off to me. Using Beast Out made the battles feel too easy, but not using it made bosses frustrating.
Megaman Battle Network 4: Hot Mess.
That's the name of the game.
Then Blue Moon is Slow-to-load garbage
Not only does the game not PREVENT repeat scenarios, I'm pretty sure it ensures them. From what I gathered from playing this lots when I was younger, there are six scenarios you can get in each tournament. You get three the first time, two new ones the second time, and the last one the third time.
100%’d both versions, can confirm.
@@mayborneflower You brave soul
@@train4292 I legit enjoyed it at the time and blocked out most of the translation flubs. BN4 was really the only game I saw through to the very end.
@@mayborneflower I enjoyed it when I was younger, except the part with finding 50 battle points, screw that.
BN6 is the only one I've 100%ed, personally.
The 7 digit password quest is actually easy. Just keep guessing every digit. The old man tells you how many are right. I dont think Capcom expected it to be cleared that way.
Edit: I personally think they could've made the generic Navi fights in the tournaments slightly different and at least distinguish them from the other 35 generic Navis. They couldve given the tournament Navis their own chip folder set. You'll still finish fast, but its something at least.
New subscriber here, just finishing up what you've covered in the MMBN series, and gotta say you're really doing it justice dude. Can't wait to see the rest of the series and whatever else you have in store!
is it weird that i still come back to this video just because the bit at 06:04 makes me laugh so much? xD
So does this mean every sale of legacy collection counts for bn4 sales? 🤔🤔🤔
Don't worry KNI this is the last game in were you have to fight Gutsman.
If you play the Blue Moon timeline, BN3 was the last time. lol
@@Hey-Its-Dingo Exactly!
That tournament theme is gonna haunt me in my nightmares.
All that aside, Im absolutely loving this series!
Take solace in the fact that the worst is behind you and you're about to play two of the best games games in the series after BN3
I think 6 is better than 3 and 5... but that's just me.
@@MysticZefer 6 is pretty good but the post game is pathetic compared to 5
@@borkguy 6 is more the core and blood is as clean and good as possible, doesnt do much else too crazy unlike most of the games which usually has some gimmick or big thing that you may not like.
@@yourdemiseishere I played 6 and after playing that I found trouble.playing the others because six had the best and most reliable combat. The crosses were better then the souls and the beast out was better alternative to chaos mode.
Also the level design was really good for the dungeons seeing as you had barely any back tracking
@@yourdemiseishere In that regards 6 is just modern 3 to me, but with basically zero post game in comparison. 3 didn’t have the gimmicks that 4 and 5 did.
Battle network 4 was translated in-house.
In capcom of japan.
This was capcom policy until the late 2000s.
who needs to hire english speakers, just get some english students!
Yeah I remember playing this game and thinking "what's the point of Shade Man?" but I have to acknowledge it as canon since he returns in 5.
Viddy and VideoMan were actually a couple of my favorite characters from the series. They, their scenario, and the fight were really memorable.
Also, I feel like having some "bad" characters like Viddy Narcy, Terry Jomon, or Atsuki Homura not get redeemed is fine. Personally, I never really liked writing where literally every bad character, no matter how bad they were, would somehow get a redemption arc or moment and be forgiven and see the error of their ways and all that.
It just feels a bit more realistic when there are some people that just can't be redeemed, when there's some people that just don't get along, when there's "bad guys" that never "turn to good".
Though I do feel like there's a bit too many scenarios where the match opponent is the head bad guy, and I kinda wish there were more where the opponent was someone good, or at least honorable, like Raoul. It would've been a bit more refreshing and variable to have a roughly even mix of scenarios where the opponent was the head bad guy of the scenario and ones where they actually help you deal with some other problem like Raoul does.
About Laserman: he regains HP while a Dark Hole is present on the field. And yes, there's no way to know this unless you look it up on the internet.
One thing I always hated about the entirety of the Battle Network franchise is how blatant cheating doesn't get you punished. Both the anime and the games suffer from this to a laughable degree.
Mr. Match has literally turned the stadium into a heat dome in an attempt to make Lan pass out? That's fine!
Jomon is cheating by locking Lan into a shitty chip folder? That's fine!
Maddie literally gave Mayl a dark chip that lets another NetOp control Roll? Seems fine to me!
Now you would think these people would be arrested or something
In regards to the anger emotion, the anger emotion can be gotten is through most omega Navi fights as you mentioned. However, these Navi fights can actually be fought right after their appearance in the story. For example, gutsman omega can be fought in the 1st run, but the fight is super difficult without proper chips. The reason why people use the folders that spam program advances is the fact that getting the SP Navi chips in this game is ludicrously hard due to the requirement of S rank. People need to have fast times and get hit at most only once in these fights, which you probably know. Also with regards to the shademan boss fight, the shademan boss fight can be fought before Duo in the first run since the Django side quest isn't closed off. This boss fight isn't too hard right at the end of the first run due to the selection of chips available in the Undernet.
Heck PAs are necessary as early as BN2 because you can run out of chips during the final boss fight who has 2000 HP.
I remember playing this game, getting to the situation where you have to use the fire chips to melt the ice, and remembering I put the very rare chip into a chip trader because it was some wack ass code Z or something. I didn't know I could use the chip trader until I got another one, and I didn't get one after a bunch of tries. I stopped playing after that
I absolutely have a rose tint for this game, it is up there as one of my all time favorites, and even then I have to say every single criticism in this video is 100% valid, you absolutely nailed it man it was a mess 😂
I HAD rose tinted glasses... then I played the game with the collection. Those glasses shattered by the end of the second tournament. Went straight to Six right after.
Fun Fact. The Code you entered at the beginning of Playthrough 1 before the first tournament is actually used as a Seed for your next 3 Playthroughs. Depending on what you entered, that dictates the order of Double Souls you unlock. Meaning you can technically curate the experience. I typically use this to just do 1 playthrough with my favorite Souls(Fire,Wind,Search)
Is that true? I’ve never heard of that. Can you point me to a source to verify this? Because from my understanding, you will always get Guts Soul first in Red Sun.
Hari Oo...
@@XIIIHearts a year late on this reply, but I'm pretty sure that guts soul in Redsun and Aqua soul in Blue moon are always first but I suppose I could be wrong
Worth staying up this late to watch. This series is amazing.
03:36 This jingle haunts me
Also yeah, pre-good morning. Doing fine?(Yeah, asking that to someone who's played BN4...Oh the nerve)
Been proper nostalgic watching all these reviews. Theres some really on the nose stupid plot points, then suddenly some really deep dark twists. I feel conflicted on these games because theres elements of 4 that probably had good intentions
Pressing L during the very start of the Thunderman scenario prompts Megaman to say "Let's go fight a netopian bread" or something like that.
11:46
(Hey you wouldn't hear me complaining)
It's a shame he didn't go over any Blue Moon-exclusive net battles.
Mainly just wanted to see his reaction to Aqua Man's scenario,
the rock mini game ahhhhhhh screw it.
@@snintendog MetalMan's scenario was a mistake.
Probably would've been more tolerant of it than Gutsman tbh
This game is what killed MMBN after the hype of MMBN3, and I really hope the people who designed the replay system step on all of the legos.
More like Capcom messing up 4. Though yeesh, you don't need to go that far about the replay value.
If BN4 killed BN, Then why is Blue Moon the 2nd best selling Mega Man game?
@@meowdeen8270 Simple. It rode off how great BN3 was. This same logic explains why 5 & 6 sold poorly.
@@soni-switch5270 BN6 sold well.
@@meowdeen8270 It didn't, actually. Each subsequent game after 4 had sales that ranked lower than the previous entry, in part attributed more to the overexploitation of the franchise during that timeframe.
However, BN6 was also hurt by the fact that for some reason they released it on the GBA, instead of Nintendo's brand new handheld at the time, the Nintendo DS. Ironically enough, while they did release BN games on the DS, none were BN6 (and both games did horribly anyway, with Operation Shooting Star not even leaving Japan because they feared it just wouldn't be profitable).
It's a really sad tale, honestly.
>Mentions the cheap nature of Stun Lock of Thunderman
[laughs in StarForce 3 ParaChaining]
As someone who bought bn4 on release and the game was released on their birthday
I remember the preposterous amount of advertising and television deals mmbn and the anime had on the release of this game. NT Warrior was the biggest show on wb for 3 years.
Bn4 was dropped right as summer vacation started along side the e reader that complimented it and the PET toys. This game was too big to fail
And it sucked.
NT Warrior flopped on the WB and it only aired season 1 and Axess.
@@meowdeen8270 axess flopped because of its timeslot vs its recommended age demo (middle schoolers when it was airing at 2pm- so when kids werent home from school yet) and DVD sales on nt warrior being nonexistant.
@@technotenor0487 Isn't that YTV's timeslot for Axess? People were watching it on YTV instead of WB.
21:57
Let's kick some Ice!
What killed the Dinosaurs? The ICE AGE!
Loving your videos man. Randomly found you while looking up gameplay of the battle network series, they were some of my favorite games as a kid especially 2 and 3. Honestly didn’t think I’d make it through the whole video but here I am after watching 4 in a row lol.
Keep up the good work!
Great video! I'm looking forward to the next videos. You're a better person than I for doing 2 runs of the game
I hop you find that the worst of the series is behind you! 5 and 6 share the series overarching flaws, but are also just more fun in general than 4.
I'm probably way late in recommending this, but the Double Team version of 5 is probably the best way to experience the game!
As always, thank you for doing this!
Eh, objectively I can see it as the worst but I personally have a special place for it, and all its faults. I think the gameplay and the souls mixed, with my early traumatic experiences gives me a sort of a guilty pleasure with it anyway. idk if I say 3 is my favorite with the damn chip and that sick kid part, fr I got stuck on that as a kid and just kept getting screwed on getting that chip or had no idea. Also the whole he used wood soul to beat the final fight should be criticized even more because you have to play a certain way to even get it which is a bit tedious and defeats the purpose of getting through the fight with your unique play-style. I think 5 is cool but I hated that chess moving on the board shit when I first played it.
1:18am In Cali and this drops and I haven’t clicked on a video any faster
Same dude
This editing is absolutely phenomenal! I found your channel a while ago through a random youtube recommendation and I can tell you put a lot of time and effort into making this look as good as possible. I really hope your channel can continue to grow quickly, because you most definitely deserve it.
These megaman BN reviews is how I found this channel and I gotta say I love your work. Subscribed for the review of mmbn 5 and whatever else you feel like reviewing. For the time being I’ll check out your back log.
MMBN4 was kind of a mess in some aspects. apparently one thing that went unnoticed until June 2020, in the Japanese version of the game, when Regal jumps to his death, if you skip the cutscene, the entire credits is played in slow motion. also, might be good if they just had some kind of virus toggle item that you can access from new game+ saves. Also Duo has legs.
One bit of content that's extremely criminally underused was the special battlechips you could obtain from fighting the OPPOSITE VERSION'S NAVIS from the tournament in Higsby's...oh, you better not exchange data until you do like 3 playthroughs or so, since it bugs out the game's code/logic. which is a real shame, you're locked from 12 different chips (with 3 tiers each). fancy being able to shoot Roll's arrows or Numberman's balls in chip-form? nothing for you! there's also technically the Battle Chip Gate's stuff too, you may as well play the VC release if you wanted to use the Tournement-exclusive chips! (also the Z-Saber from Zero 3) since there's no multiplayer functionality.
I'm honestly even unsure if you actually fought opposite version navis or copies of Megaman or what, i never even linked up together with anyone to utilize it.
"One bit of content that's extremely criminally underused was the special battlechips you could obtain from fighting the OPPOSITE VERSION'S NAVIS from the tournament in Higsby's...oh, you better not exchange data until you do like 3 playthroughs or so, since it bugs out the game's code/logic." I'm almost sure this is a lie from someone who really hates BN.
I was playing this game in my PSP with an emulator and was near the end when one day i turned on the game and the menu just showed "New Game". Finished it out of spite.
30:05
That line perfectly describes Sonic Adventure DX on steam🤣🤣🤣
I love the way the internet looks in these games, with the different looking styles relative to their real world areas. The main paths and side paths, the idea of homepages and hyperlinks being shortcuts. Thats so great!
I agree the music still slaps with the undernet theme and even when Lan travels to other regions
So, about ten years back I decided to go through the Battle Network games. I did two passes - the first was just to beat the end boss, the second was to 100% each game in turn. The first pass went fine, and the second... took a long time, as you can imagine.
First time through 4, I shrugged, said "that was short" and went on to 5... But then, on that dreaded second pass I learned what true hell meant.
You see, one of the HPMems is in an area only accessible when you get one particular scenario during the final tournament. I did not get that scenario on any of my first *five* playthroughs. The only thing compelling me on after that fifth was sheer bloody minded pride and misguided determination.
Do you know my suffering? Do you know my hatred? You think that you hate this game, but no. No, this is a pitiful trivial thing compared to what I went through. I don't say that I hate a particular given piece of media easily. It *normally* has to be outright fascist or racist propoganda (or along those lines) before I'll go to "I hate this" under normal circumstances.
But Battle Network 4, I hate. I hate it so, so much. The design for this one was broken in almost every meaningful way, and you saved yourself a lot of time in not going through it a third damnable time. The fact that they went for the easy cash grab rather than putting in the time and effort shows all throughout the game.
I loved the editing in this video lmao really enjoying this series!
I love the custom sprite for thunder man!
But what about Windman
What about the droid attack on the Wookies?
@@mrhydrogen7459 who
PART 3??? SPOILERS?!?! ALREADY BEFORE WATCHING?!?!
To heck with Windadamn! His Soul is not good in this game... even doh the ShadowStyle is what Wind-style is essencially.
I want the POST-GAME GOSH DANG IT
I don’t think he’s gonna do it. A second playthrough nearly broke him already man
I think anger is actually caused by taking a collective 300 damage back to back. I got it quite a few times in 4 I don't think I've ever received a 300 damage hit.
Yeah, I've had it happen from getting stunlocked by several Billy viruses' thunder attacks.
Its also very easy with heat tiles too I know I triggered it against that Burnerman I think
Megaman battle network 4 was the game that first introduced me to the series, I loved it a lot as a kid, I played it constantly and I am now just figuring out there is new game plus feature to have multiple outcomes
Even in 2003 magnetic tape was outdated.
Honestly, I wish that this game was better, cause it has so much going for it: New Game Plus to remove content padding that made the first few games hell, Double Souls which incentivized different folder builds depending on your playstyle, The Boktai crossover granting really cool features like Gundelsol, and the Karma system judging you for actions in the story. This is shit that you'd see in a modern day game: Dynamic battling, Multiple playthroughs, the ability to make OP AF characters, and a consequence for taking an easy and selfish route.
Too bad it was a GBA game released in 2003, made by a company that doesn't understand that oversaturating a market can be dangerous, especially when it comes to kids games where PARENTS will be the ones buying it. If we ever get a Battle Network 7, I hope we get some of the gameplay features that were in this one. Mainly cause it won't be limited to a shitty battery operated cartridge that could only hold 32mb at most.
What I like about these reviews is how well balanced they're written. Sure the game is poorly written and there are a ton of negatives associated with it. But you also take some time to highlight the positives and mainly what a lot of fans loved about this game. The combat was a huge improvement from previous games and that's probably what a lot people remember the most about BN4.
Everything else in this game is just hilariously bad. For real man, if it wasn't for these videos I probably would have still thought highly about this game. I had no idea there were so many plotholes, let alone the absurd amount of reused content. Really makes me appreciate these reviews so much more.
Keep it up dude, looking forward to the last 2 games! 💎
The removal of Add function sucks, they really want you to use Number/Search Souls but it would be too late by that point, while you can use Add from the moment you start the game
I love your reviews man, I like to listen to them while working, I love your great voice keep doing your great reviews.
It's ok I didn't want to sleep anyway! Fr pls continue doing these if your sanity allows it, it's so good
I think one of the most maddening things was finding out I could never complete the chip library 100% if you started the second play through never knowing you’d never see the tier one bosses again..
you can still get the tier one bosses battle chips though
You know I'm so happy I never had an opportunity to get this game after Battle Network 3. It might have turned me off from the series lol.
Chances are you still woulda enjoyed it somewhat. But in retrospect as an adult we wouldn't like these games.
Eeeeh, idk I think you can enjoy a lot of the ambitions from the gameplay and feeling like a badass rather than wait RNG chips. New Game+ sucks but you didn't exactly do the takeaway point that he did think it was worth a playthrough to laugh at the dumb dialogue and story but respect the foundations from this game that would be refined in the later games. I see it as the BN 1 of the "new BN" change in terms of visuals and gameplay
One more thing is that the Anger emotion also triggers if megaman is stunned for a while , so ThunderMan or a higher level Billy virus might do the trick.
Omega level bosses can spawn after their alpha forms have been defeated. Most if them have nearly as much HP as Duo's first form (exceptions are LaserMan Omega (2,200 HP), WoodMan Omega (2,500 HP), and Bass Omega (3,000 HP).
Omega Navis having that much hp?! Eh....Not really a problem considering the chips are pretty op this time around. Especially dark chips
The huge jump from v2 to omega/v4 level while you are stuck with tier 1 chips is ridiculous
So, there has been a lot of comments already mentioning how you can cheese the 7 digit password by bruteforcing it, but there is actually an easier way.
The game has 3 different passwords for this section and you can tell which one you have just by checking the paper and reading the first question. For example, if you go the one that ask for how many Town Netdealers are, the passcode will be 1563546. So, you don't even need to do the whole trial and error thing. Shoutout to the Official Strategy guide for saving me a lot of time with this information
I know it may be a bit too late for this, but im rewatching the videos each time i beat the corresponding game, lol
I thought you were making a joke when you said Ivan Chillski...then i saw them say Chillski ingame
Hot Navi's in your area💀awesome video man. Even though MMBN4 was the worst out the series, you were still able to pick out pros of the game so I commend you for that
"what a Polite young man she was" -
Haruka Hikari
IQ 100
In the day they heavily advertised it on tv. That and the anime made it so popular
I take it Windman, Bass, and Black Earth are being skipped?
Shademan and Laserman are the only real bosses plot-wise.
Please do part 3 with them!!!
@@silverhetch3383 Only if he uses cheats to skip the boring parts.
@@robertlupa8273 That might be a bad idea. For some reason this game has incredibly strict anti-cheat measures that can make it damn near unplayable, especially the minigames like KendoMan's training. I'm not sure if they're enormously more strict than the rest of the series... or this is just so much worse than the other 5 games that it's the only one people try to use cheats on. Probably a little of both.
That was a great video! I have a question though, do you plan on playing the original GBA version of BN5 or Double Team? And for BN6, will you play the normal version of the game, or the english patch of the Japanese Version to be able to access the content that was cut?
Great vídeos on the Battle Network series. Aside from Battle Network 3, i watched everything. Good job reviewing and showing the whole game at the same time. I played BN4 a long time ago but didn't remember how strange it was.
Dam, 2 playthroughs of battle networks 4 is a torture not even I would give to my enemies, and you did it WILLINGLY, THAYS CRAZY
Lmfao I loved this as always. Cant wait to see BN5 but take a break or so between these games, they can be teddious to go through em all in a row as the gameplay is fairly similar.
Once again, want to re-iterate that Paper mario is something you should 1000% look at. Right up your alley.
I'll keep it in mind. I actually love Paper Mario, just not sure if I'd make videos about them. It's possible though.
I remember playing red sun and traded away the 1 copy of the fire bomb for the blizzard story and quickly learn how fucked I was when I found out there was only 1 in the game
oh no...what did you do?
@@ashharkausar413 If I remember correctly the area before you enter the undernet i think its called sharo 4 or 5 there is a chip trader machine and i remember putting the FireBomb F chip in for trade and when i went to do continue the story i realize i needed that chip check on online and found out there was only 1 way of getting it
@@revanmega15 Gotcha. So what did you do to get the chip back?
I feel like Capcom should've released a sort of overview/guide for this game.
Making players at least aware that there is more to the game, than what you are currently going through.
Example:
Playthrough 1:
Story scenario 1
"Act" 1
-Story
- RNG
-(Optional) RNG
- RNG that's tied to the story beat...->Story
Repeat for next act/sequence
And in the guide/direct info to the player at the start;
For
Playthrough 2/new game +:
Contents;
Stronger enemies
New chips
New bosses
Areas
++
And there are more things to be found in New Game2:
[Page number, and going there will present you with a list of the changes, shops, and such.]
Now that I've fully watched this video yeah... I remember as a child playing through this god damn game 4 god damn times and on the 4th playthrough my MMBN4 cartridge when and committed sudoku and reset my whole process and I had to start from zero... gameplay yes its fun and great but after multiple playthroughs I kinda got bored, story? Uhhh... I mean its there I guess, honestly only thing I remember about is haha funny dark chips bad and Duo dies to Gun del Sol chips because, I had to make a very specific deck to fight him with. I did like the NG+ system where you unlocked more things and kept pre-existing things but hated having to do the tournaments again and again. Looking forward to BN5 and BN6 reviews in the future as they are my favourites in the MMBN franchise.
I'm sorry to hear that. As a kid I more or less just got stuck with the Zbomb, the Watergod trial, and the Duo boss fight for a while until I found out some tricks online
I do have to say that even if you decide to play the Double Team DS version of 5, that you go back and listen to the GBA version soundtrack. IMO the DS port ruined a lot of the music, making it much more bland and less emotional.
They perfected using the chiptune sounds for music in the rest of the series, and having to try to port perfect chiptune music into normal music on the DS didn't work out that well IMO.
The most important tracks to listen to the GBA versions of have spoilers in the track titles, so they're below:
"A Total War", "You're Not Alone", and "VS Nebula Grey"