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A Mega Lack of Polish - Mega Man Battle Network 4 Review
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- Опубликовано: 30 апр 2021
- 2021 is the 20th anniversary of Mega Man Battle Network! Join me in celebrating the highs and lows of this amazing RPG series one entry at a time!
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CHAPTER 1 - HastleVania - 3:16
CHAPTER 2 - FullMetal Jack-In - 16:00
CHAPTER 3 - Live. Dex. Repeat. - 24:35
CHAPTER 4 - No Country for Old Navis - 31:50
CHAPTER 5 - Is That a Boktai Reference? - 36:30
CHAPTER 6 - Butane and Butane Accessories - 48:35
CHAPTER 7 - Mega Gear Sol-Lan - 53:47
CHAPTER 8 - Roll Kept a Training All Night Long - 56:42
CHAPTER 9 - The Not Technically Italian Job - 1:06:02
CHAPTER 10 - Desperately Seeking SearchMan - 1:09:11
CHAPTER 11 - I Bless the Rains Down in Netfrica - 1:15:43
CHAPTER 12 - Chop Chop Master Famous - 1:18:57
CHAPTER 13 - Take Your Protein Pill and Put Your Helmet On - 1:23:35
CHAPTER 14 - 'Neath the Black, the Sky Looks Dead - 1:31:06
CHAPTER 15 - The Duo-ality of (Mega) Man - 1:35:02
Sound of Silence 8-bit by Nefos
I don't own Mega Man or any of that stuff obviously.
Would you believe that even at this stupid length there's a good 30 minutes or so total I cut from various points so as to not completely destroy the pacing?
For example, a ten minute dive into Mega Man music composers that ground the video to a screeching halt. Also tons of nitpicking and rants about the game that just felt too mean spirited.
I was just gonna clear out the BN4 files for storage space like usual, but I decided I should start holding on to that sorta stuff from now on, in case I ever get enough support to start a Patreon. Would probably make a halfway decent Patron reward.
You also forgot to talk about searchsoul, wich kind of got me confused for a sec since you talked about guts and roll soul. Edit: nvm you just covered a bit later thats on me my bad
Hi dumb question any chance you wish to sell that last bit of sanity for Beyblade game review content? (Again thanks for the Megaman)
yeah while BN4 is fun fans are aware of ALL the issues and grammatical misstakes heck everyone was happy when the WiiU version of BN4 fixed the MAJOR game crashing bugs. but that's not why I'm talking to you, the final boss in BN5 also has no battle panels under it.
So you doing team Colonal,Gregar version in your review well battle network 6 might be the most one sided version exclusively ever as all of Gregar cross are instantly powerful.
would love to see that ten minute video about the Music composure.
Oh my god Leg's go
Leg's f-in go!
Legs a fixing goooooooooooooooooo!
Leg's go! (mario voice)
@@paanazmi8062 *Mario wakes up from nightmare*
"Leg's Go, Luigi, Leg's Go!"
"There there Mario, it's OK, you're safe now"
LEG'S GOOOOOOO
“Hi Glide, you ever gonna do anything in this franchise?” Hey give him some credit, at least instead of standing and doing nothing he is laying down and doing nothing
He did more than a certain other yellow navi.
What was the point of Mick?
@@geistgrace6452 emotional support.
@@geistgrace6452 Taking the Mick
DAMN at least he can fly....right ?
Megaman beware of the BALL
I'm eternally grateful to the forces of the universe for allowing Battle Network 3 to be my first game in the series.
SAME!
BN4 was my first and I loved it can't wait to play the others
My first one was the BN2
Bn5 team protoman was my first one
Same. BN3 was my first, not just in the Battle Network series, but in all of Mega Man. What a powerful first impression it made!
Dogs and Monkeys actually have a rivalry in Japanese folklore. It's a known thing over there. Of course, a GOOD localizer would have accounted for that and changed the answer to CAT...
Often Japanese games weren't really 'localized' just roughly translated. Localizing means bringing in people familiar with the culture and changing the script to make it easier to understand.
The signs at the center square outside the castle actually tells you the answers to the puzzles
Just pointing that out because thats how i found out the answers
Still could've made it a bit more obvious
But, with you just go in the park and explore you can find ALL the answers without any issue. This stories are about the toys in the park
Is there anything about the Halbert princess who loves her axe?
@@thevenomspino i misread axe as something else
you can't sum up the entire MMBN series in a single line
Megaman.EXE: Lan,you dunce
That, truly, was a Mega Man Battle Network
Credits Roll
Kek
Eazy summarization
Truly one of the MegaMan BN games of all time
@@solacehollow6062credits ROLL???? like Roll.EXE from Megaman Battle Network????!?!?!?
"Leg's go, Lan!"
Funny how the Million kick card exists in the starforce series.
Best card lol guarantees a high amount of noise if you land it properly
Piccolo: let my people go
@@adamtaurusragnathebloodedg8407 Gohan: "BLAH!
It's Big Green!"
Yeah, the proof reading is god awful but man I still love some of the mechanics and ideas of the game. And yes, while now you can abuse them if you were a dumb kid like me back in the day...you wouldn't have figured out where certain chips are unless you did trial and error or heard it from the vague internet at the time.
@@bahaedablackaceenthusiast9955 man, i wish i could get legit copies of the mega man star force game series without scraping my credit card AND my savings account
I would love to test that card out..
This entire game boils down to Lan being tested to prove his skill over and over again and traveling the world within the span of minutes
the problem?
Yeah despite him beating a virus, a creature made out of bugs, and the internet, he still isn't strong to enter the tournament automatically
@@Phoenix_Blader_93 To be fair, who would know that stuff? Doesn't explain why you needed to be proven about the third tournament thought
"Who would know that stuff?"
I mean... they wouldn't know about the final bosses, probably. But also, he and Mega did beat down WWW members on national TV. Sunayama and DesertMan, to be specific - Sunayama was broadcasting Chaud trying to give up his PET to save his father, so both Lan beaning him with a PET and the subsequent NetBattle (or at least the results of it) would also be broadcasted, since there was no time to cut the feed. (and I'm pretty sure Ribitta wouldn't allow the feed to be cut anyway)
With that and all of the stuff for the N1 Grand Prix before that, literally everyone should be aware of Lan Hikari. The way things have gone so far, he should be a NetBattling idol for a good handful of people. People should be either nervous about going up against him or excited to fight a living legend, and people should be swarming him every time he steps outside of ACDC Town. His place of residence should be public knowledge since he made no effort to hide it at all (which I guess it is with how easily new people find it in every game), and the only reason he'd have some peace and quiet in ACDC proper is because everyone knows him well enough to stop being starstruck every single time he NetBattles someone.
Obviously I'm embellishing a little bit, but my point is, who *wouldn't* know about Lan after he shows up on national TV beating the heck out of a WWW member?
Duo's entire schtick of enacting judgment on "evil humans" would've actually hit some cord if the entire game's plot was building on that premise, instead of.. multitudes of random filler content with net battling.
Yeah I actually like the Darkloid cast in this game. I wish they had more to do than just crash random tournaments. I'll always love Duo as a villain tho.
Which is exactly why the STREAM arc of the anime works really well in that regard lol
yeah, It's so weird. it's like the "main plot" was just some MMBN 3 DLC, and then the actual plot of duo/dark chips/nebula is this whole other potentially interesting story that gets almost zero mention, despite the connecting threads being there. Instead it's this werid plot where nebula wants to harvest an asteroid that has deemed humanity as worth nuking a planet over and screwing up billions of dollars of equipment (and almost killing an 11 year old boy).
But... he works at Not-Nasa. he coulda just said "hey lemme jack in and explore this" before they built a billion dollar laser for him to sabatoge. Also dark chips
(and wtf happened to shademan? I played 5 so I know that bastard isn't dead)
@@raze2012_ Yeah they could have had a story that acted as a precursor to BN5. Where you build a team through one tournament segment. Each Navi puzzle could vary and focus on evaluating a different skill for teamwork. Then the Darkloids could function kinda how they do in the TV series. Attacking different parts of the net and you go and deal with them with your team providing support.
This is why i always feel like BN4 isn't canon and BN5 is the true BN4. The story of BN5 is so true to the story of BN3. BN4 just felt like everyone forgot what happened after BN3
the story can be fixed if Dark Chips were a new fad that net battlers were doing, and they were directly tied to why Duo read humans as evil. the villain used his organization to throw them into circulation. have them introduced way earlier and make the Shademan boss hard enough to tempt you into using the dark chips rather than making him invincible to normal attacks
Yeah, just have some of the guys like SparkMan and BurnerMan use nerfed versions of Dark Chips in tournaments.
That would tie the dark chip and asteroid plot better
I actually think they could've used the same approach they did in the next game with Darkchips.
Where shady people are selling them off, but could be changed to other people instead of just you.
Cyber drug war
Also maybe have bosses use them against you. Maybe with slightly powered down effects but still very powerful.
Fun fact: in Europe, the cover for BN4 Blue Moon shows Cross Fusion MegaMan, an ANIME-EXCLUSIVE TRANSFORMATION!
That's weird.
Sure hope someone got fired for THAT blunder
If only they focused on the anime's plot than this anemic storyline.
They really screw up everything they possibly could with this game
Ah European box art, oh how we hate thee
43:55 The reason why WizardDog's rival is WizardMonkey is actually based on a Japanese expression "Fighting like Dogs and Monkeys", which is almost exactly the same as saying "Fighting like Cats and Dogs" in English. It's unfortunatley an example of poor localization to not have the answer to be WizardCat.
Fun Fact: the expression is actually the reason why in Star Fox the Cornerian Army (an army of entirely Dogs and Canines) fight Andross and the Venomian Army (an army of entirely Monkeys and Primates)
Shademan never intended to drain Roll of her energy. That is a translation error. He was actually going to force her to play test 2003 CAPCOM games.
The reason behind Boktai and Battle Network are so close is that Boktai is made by Hideo Kojima, and Kojima’s son really loved Battle Network so Kojima approached Capcom to have Boktai and BN collab and they liked the idea.
nah they wanted Boktai to piggy-back off the more successful series.
@@HughAverageHomoMan Why must you ruin this comment by being a jerk?
@@jackmist Because it's true. I like boktai but its increasingly obvious once you think about it that they were using Mega Man to advertise it.
@@HughAverageHomoMan There's no reason both can't be true.
Wonder if he still loves Battle Network to this day, we could of gotten a reference to the game in Death Stranding
Fun fact, I once counted textbox errors for a Let's Play of this game. The end number was 199, and I didn't even see everything. This was also before I realized the wheeees were mistranslated wryyyyyies because there's no way Shademan's not making that sound.
Some of the errors add more to the tally due to bigger reasons such as the story elements and programming screwups, but yeah that's a lot of mistakes.
It's a Capcom game. If anyone ever asks 'Is this a Jojo reference' the answer is ALWAYS YES.
As a kid ngl I was more disturbed he was saying WHeeee on sucking the life out of the navi lol. Nah, fr I was confused and thought it was just sounds like the Wheee sound wave on the speaker than him actually talking since he had control of sound in the game like at 11:39.
I always thought it was a breathing wheeze rather than a vampiric screech
I think it's supersonic waves coming out from him.
So just making sure, the summary is:
Story: Garbage
Translation: Non-existant
Battle Mechanics- FLIPPING AMAZING
battle mechanics also suck lol, youll be fighting lv 1 enemies for the entire game's run time
@@wheatleythebrick2276 until new game plus
For all 4 did wrong (many, many things,) DarkChips were a pretty cool addition. I think 5 used them best, though, which is fitting because . Also, Full Synchro was a great thing to add to the game, as was DoubleSoul/SoulCross/whatever you call it.
@@magetsalive5162 ive never used them but they seem like program advances that dont require any setup (and the punishment is non existent)
@@wheatleythebrick2276 Truth be told, I never really used them in 4 - I didn't like the penalty. I still appreciated them, though - thematically, I mean. I actually did use them in 5, but not by themselves. That one certain mechanic got a sidegrade which gave a penalty-free way to use DarkChips and I absolutely abused the heck out of it.
I THINK the “you broke my shoulder scenario” might be a type of scam in Japan (i could be wrong). This was an entire series of side quests in Yakuza
I wouldn’t know, but I wonder if it’s a scam in Asian countries in general. Even in various translated novels I’ve read before (Chinese and Japanese, who knows, maybe some Korean ones have it too), such a scenario has been referenced (some are bumping into people, some are intentionally falling and then getting a death grip on people approach showing concern in an attempt to hustle them or threaten them to hand over their money or risk having charges pressed on them for knocking over and injuring an elderly).
It’s weird.
It is. The trope is used a ton in anime. Some thugs bump into you, grinning that you injured them and try to extort money.
Most of the time I see it used, it plays out exactly like in this game. Some hero or tough guy will come in to beat them up.
Poor Mayl, her house had been demolished from 2 story to only her bedroom now.
And the school is blown to shreds
@@inconemay1441 The school was the biggest building in the town and Yai, the capitalist prick, has taken it for too long and took the whole site for her new mansion.
"Let's go see what everyone's favorite ethernet cable is up to."
That line is pure gold.
I have been installing new Wifi and using ethernet to set things up (with some difficulty) and I have thought of this SO many times in the lat few days. It brings a smile to my face.
I couldn't stop laughing when I heard that line, it was just brilliant
Unironically my favorite part of BN4 is the Tournament battle theme and the grid loading animation for its fights lol.
They havent used the grid aesthetic since the first two game's title screen, it's surprising to see it here
I was like "what the F is wrong with you" when you started complimenting the park missions. Then you "until I" and procced to remind me of my own past trauma
I too am still haunted by bad dreams of the amusement park section. Especially the puzzles with the storybooks!
Just imagine me with my really bad anxiety and uneasy feeling when he he started the top man section and I haven't played this game in like 8 years but remember the bullshit that you go through also I said it before in the comment that I left but the fuckin 50 token scavenger hunt qualifier can go to hell
MMBN 4 was the game that got me into the franchise and I'm actually glad this was the one that did. It makes me appreciate all the other games just that much more.
Same here!
Same!
Given this game literally haunted my childhood, same. When I played 3 afterwards it was like a breath of fresh air, goddamn.
@@bradleydalton7563 The only part that haunts me is pre eagle tournament. Everything about it just feels awful.
And it also made me appreciate this one more, since you're not thinking of whether it's better or worse than the other ones. Tbh to this day, I have no problem with MMBN4.
>actually played BN4 3 times
You deserve a like for that alone. Sheesh.
Are we gonna talk about how Dex moved away in the last game and is mysteriously back in ACDC here? With no explanation?
he did return near the end of 3. something about acdc being safer due to WWW
@@robertgunther851 I'm afraid I can find no in-game text or online references to support that. He shows up at the end of 3 to help Lan battle WWW, but it never mentions his family returning to ACDC
He moved back in MMBN 3.5 , Dark Disconnected Data .
I think in the show they said that but ended up moving back at some point. Yes, the anime story and the show aren't the same but they do have some parallels. NT Warrior Axess is actually not too far off from BN4 other than it has a better plot overall and not just a big tournament. not a fact but I do think there was an episode with that
@@nah4467 drastically different character backstories, plots, and even in universe mechanics. Sure you can have head canons to fill in the gaps but sadly that's like using the Manga or the movie as gap fillers and if you read the Manga you see what I mean, I just follow the same thinking tho
Forgot to mention, BN4 is where Bass starts losing his relevance in the story and become nothing more than a literal brain damage punching bag.
Damn!😠😟
They never concluded his story, unlike in the manga.
Bass is a super boss in bn6 lol
@@fgcnomad5135
He is a super boss in every game. Don’t know why you singled out 6.
well it was theorized that Bass was ultimately destroyed at 3 while the Bass you fought onwards are just his clones, another reason that solidifies this theory cuz BN4 to 6 Bass doesn't seem to know Megaman at all despite the numerous encounters.
the dog/monkey wizard thing makes sense...in japan, where they're essentially the same level of rivalry as cats and dogs. also for some reason, snakes vs frogs.
The frog vs Snake rivalry come from the tale of Jiraiya.
Also that dungeon's technically not a guessing game, as the full stories are written on plaques around the theme park that you can read during the initial wandering around segment.
The game deserves no slack for that, since this vital information is so easily missed, but still, it's there.
@@StevenUlyssesPerhero Yep, and they're word for word so it's not like you need to guess at any point in all that dungeon
Weirdly i actually new about the Japanese dog vs monkey rivalry through, of all things, the Medabots series. They describe it as two proud/stubborn individuals, much like dogs or monkeys, will inevitably butt heads together
For my second "not-a-reply-on-some-other-comment" comment, a note about "Halberd" Princess:
Apparently her Japanese name is "Masakari Hime". A masakari is an axe/hatchet, The Internet says it's specifically a hatchet with a broad blade. Apparently it's referred to as a "battle axe" at times, but it's not actually intended as a weapon (though it may have been used as one in the past.)
So, basically, I don't know what the translation team was doing when they called her Halberd Princess, when Hatchet Princess should have probably been used. MMBN4's translation is going to be as frustrating and mysterious as it wants to be.
Also a halberd is a polearm with an axe head. So technically it is part-axe.
I got a simple fix to the gravity bullshit in Duo's stage; Whenever you're dodging SearchMa-oh, I'm sorry, SerchMan's shots, it gives you a button prompt. When putting out those Internet fires, you get a button prompt. So, when it comes to the gravity shit, how about, I dunno, a FUCKING BUTTON PROMPT!
1:33:25
In the original Japanese version, Lan says
大きなじばのみだれだ！
ロックマン、すいこまれないようにもがくんだ！
(It's a big magnetic field disturbance!
Mega Man, struggle so you don't get swallowed!)
It's still vague but it gives the player the idea that they can do something about their current situation.
The first sentence is translated properly, but the localization team butchered the second part.
Thank you! That makes so much more sense.
How the fuck did they think that struggle = "Be careful, Megaman!" 🤦♀️
@@HeroSword_P I would be that like MANY pokemon translations they sent the text over with no context. Without knowing what is or isnt supposed to be a gameplay hint, it is very easy to translate something totally wrong. Plus I would strongly bet there was a character limitation too, so they were forced to shorten a lot of text.
@@knijohn3581 his name is chaud stop saying Eugene or lll kill you
To be fair though. as a kid I would always mash in every game when a struggle would happen (Even in Pokemon) and youd be surprised how many games actually account for that as a SECRET way of doing something. I dont know why but it felt naturally to start mashing buttons on a GBA SP to avoid the terrifying black hole
Tetsu was definitely supposed to have a cooler navi, having a unique character sprite and everything
That whole owing money from bumping is actually a pretty common trope in anime. From what I understand it actually happens in real life as well. Due to societal differences I guess it’s a pretty easy scam to run
I’m pretty sure it shows up in literally every Yakuza game as well. Same reason lol
Yeah it's also a good way to get pick pocketed
I feel like the whole "not destroying the chip until right when they reach the boss that wants it" could he fixed by saying, "hey, destroying this could have adverse effects on Megaman, so just hold onto it and keep it out of evil hands, you're Lan, after all."
So I know this is a year late, but a not-so-fun fact about BN4 is that every single zone in the Internet has a Boss Navi associated with it. every. single. area. If you link up a copy of Red Sun and Blue Moon and play through the game SIX times, you will have the single most dangerous internet in the entire franchise including Starforce. Because of the Tournament-based design, There are no "Talk to the Op to battle the navi" SP fights. every single one of them is fought as a random encounter in the Internet, all the way up to the Undernet and Postgame Areas.
Yes and the ghost navis are more frequent. There were a lot of times when the full-powered version of the corresponding ghost navi was the first encounter I got upon entering the area. No preparation or anything!
@@alex_flamer The encounter rate in BN4 is completely scuffed. and you can't avoid SP battles with Sneakrun like you can with viruses.
This is what happens when a series that was supposed to get only 3 numbered entries gets a fourth one and is developed in a year with a totally new engine and graphics.
I didn't know it was a new engine. You couldn't tell really graphics or gamplaywise.
@@DIYisntDead If you can't tell that the graphics from 4 are completely overhauled from 3, I don't know what to tell you.
@@batmabel I could tell they upgraded the graphics, but game play is pretty much the same as 3 outside of some new story missions KNI outlined. You can upgrade graphics and use the same engine. It's not like it was a drastic change/ upgrade. Granted I assume they didn't really utilize the new engine until 5.
But 5-6 were great so I can’t complain too much
😆
It need to be nominated for a wha Happen? Video.
I've heard that the reason for the sudden change of sprites and alteration of the art style going forward was to both modernize the series a little bit, and also to save space on the ROM due to the sheer amount of content each new entry introduced after 3.
Souls, for instance, have each an entire spreadsheet each, which is completely separate from Megaman's, unlike in the last two games where the Styles were cleverly mixed with the base spreadsheet, only adding new details on top of it. Because of this, a lot of things were made smaller and simple to compensate. For example, Megaman's wide range of battle sprites and animations were axed from this game going forward, being about half as many.
In 6, even, they had to be creative with that game's battle mechanic, and instead of making a brand new set of sprites, they simply modeled the upper part of Megaman's body into the new transformations, probably to keep saving space. Unsurprising, considering just how much cut content that game had due to space constraints.
So, yeah, the games were getting too big for the poor little cartridges at this point, unfortunately.
38:16
“Local Net Navi brutally assaults working class Navi after attempted trespassing”
Wait did that giant floating head from space just say show me what you got????
Lol MegaMan did it first 😂
I doubt Rick and Morty's team played Battle Network, but it's still a funny coincidence.
@@TheAzulmagia still possible. Battle network 4 outsold any entry of megan ever, except megaman 2. Megaman 2 and battlenetwork 4 are the 2 best selling megaman games ever.
He also said "BOO!!!"
Actually Zyuranger did it forst
You know, for the fucking time and effort you put on your videos, making full reviews of the game in the most fun way, this is way better than watching someone playing the game by the way, you deserve way more subscribers.
Why are you apologizing for the length of these videos??? I LOVE that you go so in-depth about one of my favorite game Series ever!!! Battle Network deserves it. Keep up the good work!
Me too, shit I watch these non-stop and never feel dissatisfied
Same. I love rewatching long videos.
1:36:30 a note on DS Navis: the pool of available chips for a DS Navi is based on chips you use. The more frequently you use a chip, the more likely a DS Navi will use it.
This also extends to Mega, Giga, and Dark Chips, but NOT Program Advances. MegamanDS in particular is only as scary as your own play style. A player with a particularly light soul, who relies heavily on PAs and Dimmers will find their Dark Double not having much to fight you with.
No wonder he had an easy time. Homeboy was trying to megabuster his way through the whole game.
Really? I swear MegaMan DS used life sword against me
@@thewisegnomeman1260same here
@@thewisegnomeman1260same here
Gosh that’s why I had such a difficult time against mine. I started exclusively using dark chips like halfway through the game because I thought fuck it
In Castillo you can read the stories in the entrance of each ride that Lan and Mayl took, but yeah, who's gonna do that.
Might just be because I grew up in a time when it was still important to examine/talk to people in order to get useful info you may need in RPG's but this was never a problem for me even back during my first playthrough. They probably could've pointed you to doing that better (somehow I remembered there being more signposting for it) but otherwise it's a pretty minor inconvenience.
You know, the funny thing is that Tinman's story kind of mirrors the story of Colonel and Iris in 6. I wonder if that was intentional when they were writing BN6 or just coincidence.
At that point in the game, the bad script and abundant typos are so bad that I wouldn't blame anyone for stop checking minor stuff that the game doesn't make it obligatory.
@@batmabel Eh, not to defend the bad grammar and spelling errors but if you would believe it, it actually took me a while to really spot it past the first scene where Lan wants to jack his mom into an oven. I tend to read over text pretty fast and don't tend to linger long on a single line so I think it wasn't until a playthrough some years back or until a youtube video had mentioned it that I really started to take notice of it.
8 year old me, who loved flavor text in RPGs. Nearly 20 years later I still do tbh so it makes me sad more modern RPGs ditch those little bits of the world
So I was introduced to ShadeMan via the anime, where he was portrayed as confident and intimidating (even if incompetent at points since you know, gotta keep him around for 50 episodes). You can imagine by surprise getting to this game, especially if you visualize his whole Wheeeeee! thing to Scott McNeil's voice.
1:34:23 “Prepare to become space dust!” Is a random vocal intro quote to Sigma’s final form in X4 (Earth/Gunner Sigma I think they’re called).
"in the anime, Mega Man isn't even Lan's brother"
You what!!!!
Yeah, its a different universe.
Apparently MegaMan.EXE in the anime is just a random NetNavi Lan had that was updated to become a custom NetNavi.
One of the most iffy changes honestly.
Yea also Full Synchro is used to allow Lan to become MegaMan in the anime. Granted only on areas were WWW used a machine to project the internet into the real world. Some other characters can Full Synchro with their Navis including Chaud/Protoman, Maryl/Roll, and Searchman and his operator who's name I forgot.
@@shinon748 SearchMan's operator's name is Raika
Laseman exe was really cool. Having a personal navi was something that Wily was missing. It's a huge miss opportunity that Regal doesn't have him or a replacement navi in BN5. Sean technically uses Freeze man exe according Battle Chip Challenge.
In the third game Dr. Cossack was there, but not an antagonist.
I kinda assumed that Cosmo Man was Regal’s secret unofficial replacement Navi in BN5. Did love Laserman though, a nice twist on technically a light elemental being a dark elemental.
He even could have been an unlockable playable Navi in Battle Network 4.5. But nope, LaserMan is still just a boss there.
When I played BN3 as a kid I headcanoned that Drillman was Wily's Navi
Given Wily's hatred of the Net and obsession with destroying all of Net-based society, it doesn't surprise me that he didn't have a personal Navi.
"Prepare to become space dust!"
Sigma??? Is that you???
Not gonna lie when I saw the end and "new game" was the only option there I thought your game save got deleted somehow and you were about to explode
Blue Moon was my first battle network game. I'll admit it's got a lot of flaws. But for a 7 year old who didn't get games that often.
I played this game religiously to death. And really didn't care how much there were side plots every five feet. It was a challenging but fun experience. Re living it now years later has made me nostalgic and happy I didn't go back to it myself. Thank you for these videos. It is such a treat to visit the past once again
Same I played it religiously. And when I recently bought the legacy collection 1st game I started playing was the Blue Moon game.
@@truffle6082 mine was finally playing team protoman.
God I can't wit u til the BN5 review, positive or negative I love watching your reviews of this series they're all fun!
Same
I hope some funny comment about Ma Boi Knightman XD
BN5 was a step up
@@bahaedablackaceenthusiast9955 Has awesome soundtrack, you get to control Colonel, the pants/briefs technique
BN5 is the best game in the series imo
I remember loving 5 (which I started with) and absolutely adoring 6 and then going back to play this one and nearly falling asleep.
I mainly played 1 and 5 and I remember 5 being such a massive improvement. Having an actual plot and characters I could care about. A lot more gameplay mechanics to play around with and way better designs all around.
I have Double Team DS so the version exclusive thing didn't bother me.
The only part of the game that really get's on my nerves is the 100 foe challenge. It's just really hard because you have to move diagonally which is hard to do quickly and reliably and towards the end it get's really hard with just 1 mistake meaning failure. I wish they just had them mapped to the 4 cardinal directions so that it was easier.
Also the support navi's aren't balanced in the slightest. With a few being insanely good and most others being completely useless.
How is it that Number Soul looks this good when Wood Soul is the goofiest turtleneck bark dress?
Meanwhile Aqua Soul looks like an unfinished asset
And would be properly refined with AquaCross
the battle network creator's child really liked Boktai so they collabed, then again, and again. I really liked Boktai too.
Really, you deserve way more attention than you get now. Every single video you make has so much effort put into it, shown with the constant 1 hour+ runtimes of most videos.
Eh, I think the video was alright but I think some of the criticism's he has while I could see from being a kid because I made them myself as a teen are after upon retrospect, are not warranted on some parts. For example, the RNG fights he mentions about the CyberBat part on solving a puzzle. That's been a problem in almost ALL the games already and secondly, this game does have a sub chip that makes weaker enemies especially avoidable with a sub chip Sneak Run hell you can run that in the custom Navi last I remember in 4. Unlike previous games that required the whole "you nEED ESCAPE Chip RNG." Also, those sub chips are about 200 zenny so they are fucking cheap. Realize it won't stop Random encounters but unless its a harder fight but they will not occur as much as if he didn't use them. A better critique should be the lack of time you get and how you have to keep going back to return on the device which causes the random encounters to be more likely to stop you. Game has a lot of bad dialogue/grammar but the people saying they love the game did not ever state story ever, only the mechanics of the game which I think while broken were unique and cool foundations that later games would improve on so people who like the game aren't talking about the grammar (not saying that comment doesn't exist but the ones he threw there made no sense other than they just like the game.) I think the Soul Unision was a lot more cooler imo with how it went back to OG Megaman. Lastly the button mashing yes I'll agree it needed to be clearer but tbh I figured that shit out as a kid by just frantically panicking and pressing every button not sitting there just saying WTF!!!! Duo after figuring out how to hit him is pretty fucking easy in Red Sun with Roll/Search Soul he's harder in Blue Moon although I haven't played Blue moon in a while.
0:49 Holy shit, that's my review you screenshotted! No lie, I hated this game so much back then and now I barely remember it other than the bad translations and having to beat it 3 times.
On the subject of Netopia: I started the series with 2, and assumed that ACDC town was a more suburban part of New York (Forest Hills, or Bay Ridge) since it was a suburban area with a subway, and assumed Netopia was just Europe since it had a European style castle. It wasn't until the world map of 4 that it clicked that Electopia was actually Japan.
So, to the knowledge of a japanese friend of man who is a big fan of Boktai, the reason why battle network and Boktai reference each other so much is that Hideo Kojima, yes, that Hideo Kojima, is the director of the Boktai series, and his son is a huge fan of the battle network series. Because he is a really big shot, he was able to coordinate a crossover in both battle networks 4-6 and I think one of the later Boktai games. This is despite Boktai being published by Konami and battle network being published by capcom.
That's pretty much spot on, what happened.
These crossovers on the Boktai side lasted with every game after the first one.
This is incredibly bizzare as Star force and Boktai 4 had a crossover as well but despite both games getting localized the crossover was cut from the western version.
Battle Network 4 sold the most copies of each battle network release. The Battle Network games were seeing an increase in sales numbers with each game, with 4 having the highest. There was hype being built up for the new mechanic of Soul Unions and all. However, because of all the terrible decisions of repetitive gameplay, lazy writing, and for us outside Japan, the horrendous translation, just killed the series. After 4 all subsequent games sold less, and Capcom decided to end the series. The DS updated version of the first Battle Network was never released outside of Japan because the sales numbers were so incredibly low.
If you want a more in-depth look at Battle Network 4 from the Blue Moon perspective I'd suggest heading over to the LP Archive and searching for Epee Em's playthrough. It's a hilarious read with info on the sales numbers at one section.
I have heard that Blue Moon can't be played on a GBA SP either. I guess that whatever emulation that the DS uses with it's GBA port was probably the same software used in the SP.
This isnt true, I still have 2 copies of Blue Moon, both work perfectly fine!(as fine as bn4 works) Red Sun works fine as well! Edit:on my gba sp*
@@numbrerotime6683 oh, neat. Well I guess the info I heard was wrong. I haven't had an SP in years, so I couldn't test it out for myself.
I played Blue Moon on an SP, the WoodMan glitch you're thinking of is purely on the DS side of things.
I had both a DS and a GBA SP and my copy of Blue Moon worked just fine on both....I think the online emulators themselves might have the issue.
@@TheDJman248 Huh, that's interesting. I have a friend at the time who played with a DS and said blue moon was messing up for him. I wonder it there was a firmware difference in DS models for the gba port?
Edit: Apparently there is. The original DS has issues with the Woodman scenario but the DSLite doesn't. Nintendo apparently updated the GBA software in the DSLites that won't cause the scenario to break.
given that Nebula and Duo where the bigger threats this was not a story that needed a tournament to verify if Lan & Megaman up to snuff to beat the big threat especially since they have done it three times prior
While the "three times prior" is true from the lore perspective, you have to remember that this could also be someone's first entry into the franchise. Same reason why the tutorial is in every game (even if it SHOULD be skippable). Also content
@@RayShadow278 while I agree with what you're saying I can explain in lore why he has too start over he obtain a new Model PE-T in each game wich in the first two not so noteable but from three and onward we see noticeble change in the PE-T so he has to adapt to the new one the chip I'm asuming they got absolete and has to start from the beginning, my main gripe is the tornament was not needed for this since it could have been the rise of Nebula after WWW while dealing with Duo and it's Meteor and this from someone that has a soft spot for the battle network series flaws and all
I remember soft locking my blue moon copy by getting stuck in the woodman puzzle before getting the ability to chop the wood
Wait this was just the part 1 lmao, thank you so much for keep doing such an amazing job!
I remember this one fondly, but yeah, the translation and busy work make it a chore to get through these days when I have actual things to do with my day. Back when I was a kid this whole multi-tournament-busy-work thing was a ot easier to justify wasting my time on.
I love that this is nearly 2 hours. I could listen. To you talk about my childhood for quite a long time. I just hope that you enjoy these games when you play them.
37:45 Im surprised that "sneaked" snuck by you :P
58:41 - That’s actually a unique attack to Roll called Roll Dance. She spins in place, leaving an afterimage and trailing sparkles in her previous place (note how concussive attacks like Cannon go right through it and how panel-stealing chips like Area Grab don’t register Roll when she’s flashing up mid-spin). Basically Roll turns herself into glittery sparkles, maybe moves around with her often touted but never previously demonstrated super speed (I’ll get to that), and instantly reforms in another spot so quickly she was probably just better off warping around the field normally.
Roll previously used Roll Dance offensively back in BN2 to fucking one-shot telefrag her bugged out doppelgänger, implying she can actually freely move as her sparkles form for a bit before doing the actual instant teleportation thing. Like she bum-rushed her crummy clone in sparkle form, teleported right back to where she came from in such fashion to kill the clone, and then just seemingly Air Shoe’d (which was a Battle Chip until 4; also Roll naturally levitates but this game and 4.5 made it clear she only has Float Shoes) over from the bottomless pit that is... everywhere else in the immediate area.
59:07 "I communed with your heartwarming soul!"
Is that what they're calling it nowadays?
The links between Battle Network and Boktai are really well done. You can even get megaman outfits and a megabuster in boktai 2. Theres also a side chapter with Shademan
I believe the issue with the Guts Machine Gun is an emulator problem, because you just need to quickly tap the attack button 3 times in a row.
In case you didn't know, Select skips cutscenes instead of Start.
Yeah, I don't get why this series suddenly changes buttons for shit like that at complete random.
Thank you for revisiting my childhood
The unconnected story can be fixed by adding Darkchips in the tournaments, something like Nebula giving out free Darkchips to net battlers which creates a trend that affect millions of Navi, Duo saw this as a sign of evil and decided to destroy Earth. Megaman faced against Navis that use Darkchips in the tournament and slowly succumbed to the corruption himself.
And we don't even need to replay the whole game three times with very simple fix: Make all 6 souls obtainable in one run and after you defeat Duo, you return to the final stage.There, you can defeat Duo again to up the difficulty and refresh the mystery datas (important ones like HP Memory will stay until you collect them). The door to post game areas will only open at the highest level of difficulty. Of course you'll have to re-jack in every place you have visited but would you rather have that than replaying the whole game?
Wonder what genius think that 80% of the game consist of filter side stories is what makes a good game.
Our favourite ethernet cable? You mean RJ45? Glad he’s back in this game. He’s personally my favourite in the series.
Roll.exe, the second strongest net battler in the country gets kidnapped by generic Navi character...
I mean its shown that Roll is pretty competent besides in the games, but has that naive nature that gets her kidnapped. Also I think it was meant to be a moral lesson of be careful with creepers on the internet which is kind of jarring to see in a Megaman game although it also throws that weird whole Girl power thing which was odd to it but I guess they didn't want to go too far into something that dark and went with tag girl power
she is but a girl, so she has to be kidnapped for the boy to rescue
apparently
Chisao is the elite hacker known as 4chan
44:00 that is indeed a cultural thing, fun fact i learned on Medabots of all places: in japan the rival animal for the Dog is the Monkey for many reasons, one was the tale of Momotaro (i haven't read it), another is that their personallities are opposites in japan (Monkey: alloof boastful winners, Dogs: tame but eternal loosers) and finally, Monekys are Jealous of the dogs for getting to space first.
For the Toyrobo scenario, you have to read stories placed all over Castillo to figure out the puzzles. The only issue with that is the game doesn't tell you about, nor is there a system to let Lan read the stories while Megaman is in the Comp.
It doesn't help that the answer is just a signboard with lots of text dump, while the other games (Numberman, Flashman and Diveman scenarios) at least put an interesting display so the players would be encouraged to look and remember better
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Everyone needs a friend like Dex. He really doesn't get enough respek put on his name
A comment with English as good as the game’s. Nice!
The big typo I remember was back in the amusement park with "Magic Sel"
Sel was supposed to be "Spell" But there wasn't enough room and they decided that Sel was the best way to write that.
I legit thought it meant "Magic Seal"
The main thing keeping me from getting hyper-focused on the Battle Network series, is how many scenarios would be instantly solved by A SIMPLE PHYSICAL OFF SWITCH
Tbh I think that’s something I love about it. It’s so insanely dumb in a way that wouldn’t be out of place in a cyberpunk dystopia, and yet I respect the earnestness about it lol
The Black Hole area was theorized to be Murkland but its confirmed that even THATS not it because the postgame Nebula area is murkland according to the prog that let's you enter in bn5. It's a weird gray area.
So they used different terms to basically refer to the same thing?
Fun fact, The tournament matchups are determined by the frame on which you start the game. So there is an RNG manip for the tournament order and it is used in the speed runs for BN4
It will forever baffle me that this game is the second best-selling Mega Man game of all time. Ahead of Mega Man X, behind only Mega Man 2. Really speaks to just how successful Battle Network actually *was* at the time.
It's not surprising. It's because Battle Network 3 was so good, 4 sold based on hype alone.
Pay close attention to the fact that 5 *fucking tanked* in sales and 6 was a rather abrupt ending in a franchise that ALMOST NEVER ends its subseries on the off-chance they feel like making another one. And 5+6, and Star Force as a whole, are way better games than BN4.
It honestly gives me the theory that BN4 single-handedly doomed the Battle Network series. Of course, a way easier theory is that early 2000's Mega Man was so absolutely immensely over-saturated, it tanked EVERYTHING across the board...coincidentally while most of the franchises worst entries were releasing all around the same half-decade span with X6, X7 and BN4.
My introduction to Battle Network was MMBN5: Team Colonel. It was my favorite megaman game for the longest time.
It was my first video game, I remember my alphabet soup folder from me being a stupid little shit
@@void_tex the first time I activated a gigavulcan by mistake I finally realized what happened if you made the giga chips and tried to find out what all the possible combos were... I wasn't good enough to get them all.
@@zephyrstrife4668 I didn't even try for that or the post game, my chips sucked
@@void_tex I ended up discovering the giga chips on accident, never wanted to use the DarkChips... but found an actual use for them when the dark fusions became available.
I can’t wait until the samurai segment in BN5. I need to relive that pain.
Same. Also the post game liberation missions.
Was it really that much more annoying than the Kendoman scenario? I recall the MMBN5 version to just be a bunch of button mashing.
@@cjhedrick6418 It's highly dependent on what you played BN5 on. It requires very fast diagonal inputs, which can be extremely inconsistent on some GBA and DS models.
I can't believe I forgot that this game did the European kidnapping thing.
Got recommended this on a whim via youtube's algorithm. I loved the video. I'll be looking forward to more of your work.
This is the game that makes me happy the first three and the last two games exist
Battle Chip Challenge or BN 4?
@@chrismason1530 yes
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Yeah, it’s absolutely something that was lost in the translation.
Netto tells you more or less to keep moving and don’t let it take you away, implying “press buttons”.
Same goes for a lot of hidden mechanics just not being translated, because of text box limitations and a rushed localization.
To be fair they rushed this game out in less than a year but I still enjoyed it nonetheless. It does have some gameplay issues but it also easily has my favorite setting in the series, I loved climbing the tournament system.
MMBN1 to 2 had a 9 month difference in release in Japan, and 8 months in NA.
2 to 3 was 1 year difference for both
3 to 4 was also 1 year
4 to 5 was also 1 year
5 to 6 was 11 months for Japan and 1 year for NA
Release date wasn't the problem here.
@@sunayama4650 ZAMN! u fucked their comment! TRUTH BOMB! I just wish I'd get fucked that hard😢
@[VUT] Windows XP TWO prolly
@@sunayama4650 It may have been. They change the art style so a lot of stuff had to built from the ground up. I wonder how long battle network 1 took to develop?
EDIT: I didn't remember all the typos.
The game is okay in my opinion. The biggest crime of mmbn4 is being a mediocre (and the FIRST mediocre) game in a series where every mainline sequel exponentially improved the series. I liked the twist with Regal being willys son, but kind of wish they brought Sean back. Making a story where regal and Sean interacted, with regal being Wilys son, and Sean being heavily influenced by Wily at a young age they could have a whole lot of paralels and interesting story beats. The game was rushed and put out at a time where capcom mindlessly pumped out mega man sequels.
At 1:06:59 are we not gonna address how he drove BACKWARDS up to Lan 🤣🤣
If it makes you feel better, Gutsman isn't a fight in 5 and 6.
Seeing the final battle with the context of Rick and Morty existing, a large floating head saying “Show me what you got” makes a lot more sense.
Man... You're making me feel really nostalgic for this series
I almost want to dig through my old crap to see if I can find my old copies to play through them again
1:45:05 Regal grabbing both cables and using his own body to conduct the electricity is metal as hell, I don't care what anyone says
Man, your bits make my day every time I watch your videos!
I love the Battle Network series and seeing someone review the games in all their wackiness with your sense of humor, while maintaining consistently high quality, is something I didn't know I needed in my life until recently!
Dear God, the Tournament Theme becomes grating *fast*
Yeah. As someone who enjoyed BN4 I genuinely hate the tournament theme because of how much you'll hear it
Really? I honestly like the theme other than you hear it too much because it is a tournament arc again. I can think of worse tracks anyway. I can see the critique of it overstays its welcome and needs more variety but I think its good for what it was if it was just for one tournament and the next set get a different theme to add more variety
@@nah4467 I was listening with headphones, it makes it so much worse
3:40 "Get me Bruce Willis. Steve Buscemi and Aerosmith!"
What about Ben Affleck?
@@elevate07 What about Bacon?
Okay, this hooked me in the first five minutes. Great editing, great VO, great attention to detail. Finally the algorithm did something right. I might just have to binge this whole series!
Honestly, as goofy as "Wh-Wheeee!!" sounds objectively, as a kid I always interpreted it more as a whistling screech (kind of like, say, a _bat?),_ which I thought was sufficiently creepy for an independent vampire Navi.
I wasn't expecting a Jak II reference here, nice