Mega Man Star Force 2: The Middle Child of the Series
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- Опубликовано: 29 ноя 2024
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Does the good outweigh the bad in this sequel to Mega Man Star Force? In this video I'll seek to answer that.
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I'm glad someone else has been covering the starforce series in this day and age. The series is extremely underrated IMO so it's pretty cool seeing new reviews and such
Well capcom doesn’t care sooooo
There seems to be a bunch of appreciation popping up about it recently. Makes me pretty happy they are finally being talked about on their own merit instead of comparing them to others.
KNI John will likely get to it within a year or two.
Just to let everyone know very recently the guy who made star force dx made star force 2 not quite dx which makes it able to do all content without another person and restored the Locked online content it also makes the encounter rate way down
Prof. 9. I wonder if he'll make a Not-Quite-DX for Star Force 3 as well that adds visible V2 bosses and the PvP bosses being in the base game.
Woah really??
Bless 🙌 🙏
Just making the game faster was a insane improvement to the base starforce 2 which's slow as fuck after you play SF3
@@TheAzulmagia I'd be down for that. maybe even reintegrate the card system that was cut from the international releases.
Does not quite dx let you use all 4 forms without IRL brothers?
Star Force 2 had a different director from 1 and 3 and it really shows with those two games being in another league of quality in comparison.
Masahiro Yasuma is a gem we desperately needed in 2. then we could have gotten 3 banger stories and probably even gave us sf4 even with the megaman decline at the time.
I was wondering about this as I replaying all 3, got to 3 and it feels more like 1 and the thought crossed my mind. Good to know
Eh still like 2
I liked 2 more than 3 🤷🏾♂️
On my recent replay of SF2 I ended up using a "hold button for no battles" code on the Skywave after my first time through. If I didn't have that, I would have quit on my second trip. Really glad to see more Star Force coverage! The series deserves the recognition (even SF2, sort of) Edit: Also glad to see the person who made the DX patch has tweaked this game a little bit as well. I wish I knew about that earlier lol
Is there a romhack for sf2?
@@KusogeMan Yes and no. It's a "not quite DX" which i believe brings the encounter rate on the Skywave down by quite a bit but doesnt completely get rid of it. There's probably more but that's what i know of
Why mmsf2 battle rate is still the same as 3 better than 1.
@@capt.bellamy ......Okay im sorry but unlike when I played 2's base game, I wasn't encountering an enemy every 5 seconds I was walking around.
@@KusogeMan Following up on what else "not quite DX" does is that you can auto send cipher mail with being able to pick Shin as the recipient with the subject auto set to Cipher, you can be able to make a brotherband with Shin and 1st megaman after beating the game from the wave stations in the shopping mall and they are the tribes of the alternating version letting you tribe king legit, doors in trans dimension 2 are altered in requirements to let you access the rewards more possible by playing it alone and you can get event cards from Shin in the mall with King Grandeur from beating the main story and Le Mu from beating Apollo. And the Battle Network event can be accessed from beating the main story.
Loved StarForce 2. Mainly cause of the various locations, bosses and Geo's noticeable growth as a character. You see a clear change right from the beginning , making the last game feel worth an actual journey in the making.
I personally loved starforce 2 more than 1. Was the story as inane as mmbn4? Yeah but I loved the bosses and the introduction of rogue as this game’s “Bass” was awesome. Not to mention the best wave battle music of the 3. Although I haven’t played mmsf3 yet
Damn you're not ready for sf3, it improved everything
Wait I didn't expect to see you here.
You really should play SF3 one day! They went all out with that one and the soundtrack is just as stellar imo
Thanks for your League of Legends analysis videos :3
Highly recommend SF3, seriously
Ah yes the middle child of star force series. I would say SF2 has potential with the mechanics, animation, a rival finally and i like how Geo improved as character the series goes. But damn the story could have been the same as the anime version (i heard it's way better), the encounter rate is very annoying (looking at you *SKY WAVE ROAD* ), and Solo could have been a better rival.
Yeah, Solo was pretty much just irony walking. All the things he gained to power up or help him do stuff was given to him from Vega. So much for his stance of not accepting others help.
@@TheFluBugZ To be fair, the power he was given was already his, technically speaking, since it all had come from Mu.
It's still pretty weird that instead of yanking it off Vega's hands by force, he preferred to take it willingly. Probably trying to logic it as him using them for profit rather than accepting their help, I guess.
story writing in 2 was just so sloppy and all over the place. Solo should have been a proper rival to Geo but had to make him an annoying edge child.
Ngl I kind of wish solo was like his anime. Preventing the exploitation of Mu without being edgy.
"The middle child". Under appreciated, often forgotten, and sometimes having better qualities than its contemporaries.
never really liked 2 besides having a banger soundtrack.
"... No dx patch to save you now"... Shoud we tell him about W.I.P. "not so dx" patch?
I remember not caring about star force or battle network but after watching all the videos I'm certainly a fan of it.
Also I don't see many talk about just how awesome the character designs and overall artstyle in this series is.
I feel kinda stupid passing these games as just being bare bones pokemon like megaman games.
Acid Ace Badass Black!!!!Dread Joker Real Red!!!!!Rogue Zeta Zero!!!!!My Fave Characters In SF 3!!!!!!😁
I don't know if they would be your cup of tea from the gameplay side of things, but man I just cannot describe my love for SF3. Despite 2 being the game that got me into the series, 3 just feels....well incredible to play
Been an honor to make those guides and help you out when needed man, thank you for letting me, it was so fun and a wonderful review as always man!
Always glad to see content creators cover Megaman Starforce, it’s one of my favorite series in all of fiction. Megaman Starforce 2 is definitely my least favorite of the trilogy, I always go back and forth between 1 and 3 for my favorite. Heck I even downloaded Megaman X Dive just to someday play as Geo Stelar and Harp Note again. Awesome video man, very fair points made and I can’t wait to hear your thoughts on Starforce 3!
Very good review. Also, since you asked about Saurian, let me share a fun fact about the Tribes: With Zerker representing the west and Ninja representing the east, Saurian represents the tribes from the prehistoric period. The original concept had a bigger "caveman" motif, but as the design evolved the dinosaur/fossil theme became more prevalent.
Great video! It was Starforce 1 that made me aware of your content, but it was catching up through to your Starforce 2 streams that kept me around and binging the rest of your stuff. Good luck with the Starforce 3 video and the upcoming streams!
Thanks for showing love to the Battle Network and StarForce series. One can only hope for future ports to preserve these games for a new generation of fans.
So excited to see your take on StarForce too, can't wait to hear about Red Joker Black Ace!!
23:47 “Finally, the power of monke is rightfully mine”
-Rpg Monger, 2022
I just realized how similar this series is to Kamen Rider Fourze.
- Main Character powers originate from space
- Entire Space motif
- Ensemble cast filled with high schoolers
- Protagonist forming bonds with various characters
- Uses said bonds as a emotional support.
- Megaman in the anime has Omega eat Cards to gain powers, similar to Ryuki’s vents.
Megaman Starforce is a Kamen Rider spin-off. Jk, it’s actually a strange coincidence.
I'm not surprised. Classic's start is practically Kamen Rider X. Protoman's story for Mega Man 3 and 4 is basically Kamen Rider Stronger.
@@nicodalusong149 i feel like either Kamen rider is a fan of mega man, or mega man is a fan of kamen rider.
@@rogue1248 It's definitely the latter. Kamen Rider is older than Mega Man. The ones who made Mega Man were kids who grew up watching OG Kamen Rider, Ninja Captor (because of MM11 implementing the different armor designs for Mega Man based on which power he is using which was supposed to be the plan since MM1), and anime like Tetsuwan Atom, Casshan and Mazinger-Z. The Kamen Rider parts are mostly in the plot like Dr. Wily stealing the Robot Masters (basic plot of most Showa Riders), Mega Man volunteering to become a battle robot (Kamen Rider X), Protoman getting upgraded and working for Wily in MM3 and then fighting him in MM4 (Kamen Rider Stronger and probably a bit of 2-Gou).
I'd very loosely argue Battle Network 1 uses Agito/Kuuga-style form changes. ZX uses Kamen Rider W-styled transformations
That surfshark ad was so smooth in transition i didn't even realize it until you outright said surfshark.
I actually ended up replaying 1, and playing 2 and 3 for the first time, after the previous video talking about the DX patch for 1. 1 feels soooo much better with the DX patch, I actually enjoyed the boss fights (though some were ridiculously hard) and I enjoyed collecting the Star cards as they gave me a focal point for deck building. The story in 2 was nice, but weak overall. I felt for Vega at the end, but it was kinda obvious what direction her character was going in. The story for 2 was definitely very…textbook shonen anime. The story for 3 was also pretty textbook, but handled MUCH better. The pacing felt a bit off though at times, but the payoff was always worth it. The voice acting whenever you become mega man was annoying in the beginning, but I got used to it and even liked it towards the end. It was a head cannon ‘anime moment’ thing where I would use it before entering a stage in a ‘heroic manner’. Let’s just say I ended up embracing my inner child for this aspect.
I made it into the video!
Honestly, aside from the encounter rate and the Bermuda Maze, I had more fun with Star Force 2 than I did with the original game when I played this in Japanese. The only issue was that I realized the story was bad when it was finally released in English. The Tribe Forms dance circles around the Star Force.
One thing I appreciate about Star Force 2 over 1 is how they actually worked to make it feel like the future. Star Force 1 was supposedly 200 years after Battle Network, but it feels like almost nothing has changed. 2 actually put in the effort to show all kinds of advanced technology that you would expect after 200 years.
Just discovered your battle network and starforce videos. these are awesome. Im so hyped for the collection to get it on my switch
I can’t wait for the DX bosses streams. Trust me, they were unbelievable hard without Tribe King
Alright, as the only person who honestly thinks that Star Force 2 is a good game, I must defend it's honor!
In terms of story, yeah it may not be the best, and maybe I am reading too much into the story, but I saw it as a continuation of the friendship theme of the first game. Specifically, the first game was about making friends after a trauma, while the second game tests said bonds, with Prez getting highly annoyed by Amy's attention at Grizzly Peak, Zack thinking everyone else is holding him back at Loch Mess, Bud losing his memories at Wazzap, and Sonia pulling a "I must save the hero by betraying him" in the Bermuda Maze. However, Geo is able to use what happened to strengthen his bonds, rather than letting them break. Do I think that it was poorly handled, yes. Do I think that it had potential, oh yeah.
The game play was definitely improved, as you stated, and I would like to add that if one happens to have an Action Replay, there are codes to give you the Classic Mega Man and L.M. Shin Brothers, and give you the Tribe King and Le Mu cards.
As for the areas, it may be that I have played these games for so long, but I do not have too much of a problem with the puzzles.
Wonderful video, and I cannot wait for the next one.
Hey, another person who thinks it's good too!
Big agree on the theme of this game being the testing of friendship. I feel like it does manage to hit those notes correctly at least. But it definitely could have been handled better.
@@calidee847 I'm just glad someone else made sense of my ramblings. It definitly could have used more time to hash out the details.
@@olympusgolemoflight7198 I mean, I left a long comment that everyone else will probably say is rambling or reading stuff into the story, too. When you love something, you tend to study it a lot, LOL.
Happy to see you release this video, but even happier about the next Starforce video! 3 is definitely my favorite, so much that I even bought both versions growing up, just like with Battle Network 6
I'm glad that someone is still covering Megaman Starforce. The whole MegaMan RPG series (BN and Starforce) has been super interesting and underrated compared to its platformer counterparts, having easily more consistency in terms of story and replayability.
Can't wait for you to review Starforce 3, aka the best one yet. I saw the streams and yeah I cannot wait for the full video. People need to know SF3 more XD
The battle network cross over is my favorite part of the game, even though it's such a small part. Hearing about Dex becoming the mayor put a smile on my face, and the confirmation of Megaman and Roll getting together makes me happy, even though it was a given.
I doubt it'll ever happen, but I wouldn't mind a Battle Network game placed in the future, where we play as adult Lan, or maybe Patch. Although that being said, BN6 ended everything on such a high note that I don't think another game after it could ever reach the same height... You never know, though!
I've always felt alone in this community when it comes to sf2, because it's actually my favorite 😅
The only thing i really agree with really is the encounter rate and locking stuff bwhind brothers, everything else I love.
Star Force 2 was my introduction to the series so it obviously holds a very important place in my heart. I love it more than the 1st game is its equal to 3 for me. I think it's only flaw is the encounter rate, that's it. I like the story, the characters it introduced, especially Solo, and I love how it improved the gameplay from 1.
The poor cashier:Uhhhh, sir do you really, need all of those?
*Geo with every Cloaker in extincted*
Geo: Yes
I liked Starforce 2's story, though this was the first time I've ever been bothered by high encounter rates to be honest, in a Megaman game. Everything seemed manageable for me until I set foot in the Skyway, first time I've ever stopped progress to buy and use Cloakers. Alternatively I would activate Tribeking and go through it just to get some Zennies while I navigate
Megaman Star Force 2 featuring literal voices from heaven, let's be glad the canceled "Pirate/Angel" tribes weren't added because it would have been worse in Angel I feel like with the ending
I laughed way too hard at using a VPN to bypass the sky wave
The plot of SF2 could have been interesting if it held the themes that Vega wanted to express. Vega's tragedy is purely about how foolish people hoarded power and their endless greed caused harm to others. So the targets oughta have been people that suffered similarly. More people that were wronged by society because people in power were horrible.
Like take the Loch Mess situation with Plesio. The villain, Gerry, expressed his backstory had been that he was once a good reporter that wanted to report the truth, but never got the ratings, but only when he lied did he get the ratings. They could have actually delved deeper into it rather than just saying it. He could have been a genuinely good person that was pressured by people to do the wrong thing. That his boss, the studio, and so on pushed him to make false reports and get ratings in all the wrong ways.
And mind you, people like Hyde could have still been part of Vega's group, but oughta have been handled betteer.
Just said this in my own comment. I think Vega would have come across much better if this happened.
@@calidee847 Right. It's one of the reasons why Cepheus felt like a redeemable villain. He was a paranoid King that had been betrayed constantly, and almost every FM-ian we met were those that took advantage of the weaknesses in people's hearts. But the twist is that Cepheus isn't one that takes advantage of others, but was one that got taken advantage of. He's basically no different from the people that got preyed upon by FM-ians.
@@0axis771 True. Very true. Gerry Romero would work very well if they showed he was being pushed into faking Messie by his superiors, but felt really guilty, I would have had a lot of sympathy for him. He would be the type of person with a problem to easily exploit and simple to target. Might play up his fear of being caught at the same time as feeling guilty due to pressure.
The Shaman from Whazzap I think they did better with. He had some legitimate worthwhile motives for his actions. I felt for him.
@@calidee847 Hence why the Shaman was the most memorable of the arc antagonists we fought against in SF2.
Had Gerry been more tragic, as he clearly had the makings of it, he could have started to believe that maybe he can keep trying to report the truth without relying on dishonest means. It'd be similar to Shepar, where he refused to abandon his ideals while still being a teacher.
@@0axis771 Yep. The story had really good potential, but feels like it wasn't thought through completely. It still functions well enough but definitely could have used more development. To me the only truly terrible thing story-wise was that beyond the grave speech at the end.
LET'S GOOOOO! Love this series your coverage of these games and BN, can't wait for you to do 3 and I really need to finish it in the mean time
Man, the first time I went to play SF2, right after SF1 mind you, I decided to 100% it since I did so for the first game. Figured it wouldn't be that bad, right?
Well, after dealing with the annoying encounter rate for the whole game (for which I actually kind of cheated and gave myself enough Zenny to get 99 cloakers on more than one occasion), Apollo Flame, who I got stuck on for a few hours, the IF bosses which were just giving me a headache with how fast they were and how much they hurt, the encounter rate making the whole postgame dungeon so much worse, and losing once to Rogue SX so I had to rematch Le Mu Xa to get a rematch...
I'm glad to say that's something I'll never have to do again.
I'm surprised in all the battle network games that you never covered how sometimes higher level battles with Navis like SP and DS would be hidden and trigger when you'd walk into random nooks and crannies)(like I had a heart attack when I'd check out the oran server later in the game in BN 5, only for a random encounter to be replaced with Gyroman SP
5:36 i still have that wave command guide to this day, it was rather fun trying out what i can pull whit it just cause
The maze before the final bosses still haunts me to this day
Just the video title was perfect already by itself. My god. you just keep on making amazing content, don't ya!
I’m really glad someone is covering these, gives me inspiration to do it myself personally one day, and I will!!! But all three of the games are amazing! Yes there are ups and downs in them, particularly the 2nd one 😂 but they’re all three so awesome! I’ve Litterally replayed them all each hundreds of times! So i know the plot in and out, and each time I played it, the more I understood it and appreciated the lessons each one has. Anyways, sorry it’s long but basically thanks for covering what is to me a beloved video game series!
Banger review Monger! Been looking forward to this ever since your Starforce 1 vid. This is exactly how I feel towards the game and I'm glad you also gave some time to review the good aspects of the game that I dont see people talking about much like the postgame. One thing that I can appreciate SF2 for is that it does set up for some nice things in the next game. Cant wait for your review for 3!
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Nice video, you did it again ! Now i can't wait for the 3rd one...
Big fan in the Star Force series !!
There is a DX patch for SF2 now, it lowers encounter rates, removes the need for physical interaction with another version of the game for tribe king, etc.
Watching reviews of Megaman Starforce trilogy in 2023... They are such an important part of my childhood. The internet is amazing. So awesome. Thanks for this. Great videos.
Loving this series, can’t wait to see which one you start next. 👌
Funnily enough, i only had copy of MMSF 1 and 3, so my memory of the series was pretty great lmao
Okay, I didn't know about the BN crossover stuff in this, but it only makes me wish SF4 hadn't been cancelled even more. The only little info we got mentions Geo teaming up with Lan's descendant or something like that which would've just shfhvkbkbufjvmn
I am glad the 'Not quite DX' patch exists, it does exactly what it needs to make SF2 an enjoyable ride
Solo: Grr! I hate friends! Friends make you weak! You only become strong if you have no friends!
(Proceeds to lose every fight to the guy with friends)
Solo: Grr! Screw you! I’ll never accept friendship power!
(Next game)
Solo: Grr! …I have a friend now.
Oh boy my favorite game series, though i have a rather vague memory of starforce 2 as i only played leo
I don't know what's worse.
No story (BN4)
Or a Lack luster story(this game)
And I'll say this over and over in regards to Sonia worrying Hollow would hurt Geo.
"GEO BEAT ANDROMEDA!!!!"
Are they HONESTLY thinking that HOLLOW was stronger than a PLANET EATING SUPER WEAPON?!?!?
Megaman Starforce as a whole was just so perfect... Why tf didn't it sell well what's wrong with people, that's just straight up unfair
Oversaturation of MegaMan games.
@@superalt513 still, it didn't deserve what it got
I think Starforce two gets a lot of hate from the fanbase, but I think it had really cool ideas and story beats that just were not fleshed out well at all. I think it’s because it had to release less than a year after SF1, that’s just not enough time I think. It really showed how rushed they were, either way I think 2 introduces a lot of the coolest elements of Starforce with Rogue and the merging forms, and it still deserves respect even though it’s probably the worst of the trilogy. Still, I love the game plenty.
Ditto!
Yes and ironically Ace Attorney - Justice for All suffers from the same problem.
“Depression 2, serotonin boogaloo”. What’s line. I had to pause the video and collect myself for the next 5 minutes because I was laughing so hard. These videos aren’t just game retrospectives. They are a testing ground for a career in standup
Tribe King looks way too similar to the Dino Thunder Megazord to be a coincidence
When is your video for star force 3 coming??? Been waiting impatiently
Coming in July!
@ 5:54 just realized this is so similar to the Card Input system they used in all 3 Spectrobes games
don't feel bad about the final stage ,it was a pain even on real hardware, it isn't like SF1 where the touch mechanics are easier, it is split second drawing.
It really sucks lol. I always just... Let them attack me as a kid
Been waiting for this, this is the very first Megaman game that got me into the series
Ain't no way a starforce video in this day and age? Amen, I love this game to the moon and beyond
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In all seriousness, glad more people are talking about the battle network and starforce games. Also, I was waiting eagerly for the day when a VPN ad would make it's. It's just...pure art.
Can't wait for your look on Black Ace! I loved that game when I was younger
22:45 Megaman Battle Network X is the coolest idea that will never happen.
This dude has convinced me to play this
21:25 All hail Solo / Heroes rise again / Annihilating Everything / That's not your friend
Starforce 2 has a tokukatsu story which I appreciate. Starforce 1 has more of a developing story but I enjoy both equally because starforce 2 just does a good job giving more of the characters you met
Here's a revised version of the Mu.
Mu - A mysterious ancient civilization is made up of beings that can transform into monsters to kill certain people who posses 500 or higher Link Power. Mu's motivation was to protect humanity, believing they do not require the Link Power to progress through which would only corrupt them. Every tribe of Mu had a unique way of killing, for example: leaving the corpse in a tree, dissolving the human, drying the human to death, changing the human into sand, pulling the human into the ground, dragging the human into the air and dropping them, vaporizing, etc. Killing a human with less than 500 Link Power is considered a taboo with a penalty of death carried out by Solo no matter what.
One thing i can praise this game for is how harder the bosses were compared to 1. But thats about all i can praise it for.
Every boss honestly needs to be more like Rogue SX. It gets us to react and time out guards and attacks and counters.
This game is so solid and trust me since it returned the original and dark roots started since the good old days of BN1-3 thanks to bringing back the unique secret bosses, post game credit upgraded rival, and a darker tone once you reach to the Alternate Future, General Auriga/Apollo Flame, and Rogue SX. If not for those 3, SF2 would go low bottom as hated by the players though it is possible that they only completed the main story and not the entire content of the game.
Rogue no doubt is a solid rival moreso than Protoman.EXE and Bass.EXE ever was. Apollo Flame on the other hand is considered Megaman's best antagonist for killing off the majority of the cast and thanks to that his popularity got him to appear in the 3rd game.
What I like about the game was that the competitive scenario gave it a tourney in Japan and the difficulty of the game due to the encounter rate along with the bosses are the pinnacle of what this game has yet to offer.
Overall the game is still pretty good and the only thing bothering it is that it is being overlooked in general.
Love Solo as a rival. Shane SF3 doesn't do more with him, but what's left unsaid and the post game make up for it.
Even if the story inferior to the SF1, I appreciate the effort the dev made to create an emotional story.
I was so sad when I found out that star force 4 was cancelled. Love this series
In hindsight I was very lucky that Star Force 2 (EU so a bunch was missing) was my first Megaman game that I played. Kid me didn't care about constant encounters or skippable writing, the gameplay was sick! And the concept of obtainable boss cards from stronger boss battles was so cool to me! And I only had better games to play after!
When I replayed it many years later I got annoyed because of the constant SkyNet travel though.
I have NO idea how kid me managed to go through all of Apollo, that shield is extremely mean on higher forms.
For anyone that's interested, I'm pretty sure Mu Gatling is avoidable by moving and by Shielding the unavoidables and once the shield is hit, cancelling it by moving to a currently safe spot? The sooner you get out of your shield animatiom, the faster you can shield again iirc
As a child, I definitely ate up that saturday morning, monster of the weak style cheese that this game was. I loved it lol. That and content and boss fights kept me going.
Online battles were a drag though. It was hard to find someone who wasn't hacking their build.
It was so unfortunate that the sf series was so much of a middle child that even the anime of the same title had to be made 12 minutes each with very low qualities, and those only went worse by the episodes. Heck, many anime viewers don’t even know 12min animes exist. On the other hand the battle network really was decent and above during the days.
6:00 There were people with Action Replays or some other type of hack who would be tribe king indefinitely AND they'd spam the charge shot as their M A I N attack. It was ridiculous, unfair and hilarious at the same time.
Also the PVP theme is amazing and it's unfortunate you can't access it through normal gameplay anymore.
15:30 Ad segway of the friggin' decade, dude!!
my sole dissappointment with SF 2 was the change on the original tribes. Originally, it was going to be Zerker, Ninja, Angel and Pirates, and the concept art, especialy for Pirate megaman was FUCKING SPECTACULAR! And it would make more sense since all 4 are HUMAN tribes (well, humanoid since angels are... angels) but better than dinossaurs being included with "link power" bullshit. Did a T-rex asked a Megalodon to make a brotherband? WTF!
Very creative way of showing the sponsor 👌
A thing that I quite not confirm nor deny is that the teams behind SF1 & 3 and SF2 were different, this would explain the quality differences.
ATK, otherwise known as "Auto Tribe King," indeed got abused in online play. I remember seeing that people had formed an online, anti-ATK group at the time. It was kind of silly, but I guess the idea was to have more people who didn't use the wave command? That was one of two rules I remember -- the other being that you put something in your name to denote membership to the group.
If anyone happens to see this, please read and let me know your opinion in this specific matter. I need more than my own point of view. Thank you kindly.
If there's any ONE thing that sticks out to me from this game, it's actually the character personalities, and not in a good way. It seems almost as if the story writers were replaced and I wouldn't be surprised how this ended up mangling the character personalities. Starting with Geo, coming off of SF1, he has renewed trust and value in his friends, yet in SF2, he becomes insecure and timid. Geo was never insecure about himself, only fearing that he should lose people. That's why he shunned relationships initially, not because fear of rejection. So it makes little sense that the next step after destroying a planet-destroying machine with the power of relationships would render him insecure only 2 months (or so? I forget exactly how long).
But by FAR AND AWAY the biggest offender is Omega-Xis. Now before you all At me, I want you to think how Mega was portrayed in SF1. He was smart, cunning, and tactical (and a bit of a tease to Geo) with a side of brute force to back it up. Basically, both Brains and Brawns. Starting SF2 and into SF3, his personality becomes like a violent, unthinking thug, trying to solve any problem with hitting it. Going into SF3, he outright criticizes characters for using "big words like "assignment" " and so on. He literally is about "Buck wild" and tearing things up.
NOW, don't get me wrong, I like Mega, he's a really fun character, and he has most of the good lines in the games. Even in SF2 and SF3, I like him. But what it was about Mega that originally endeared him to me is that he was the rational side to Geo's immaturity, pushing him forward and out of his comfort zone to try new things. That smart, intelligent, yet powerful personality. But it's almost like, in order to distinguish Geo's character from Omega-Xis's following SF1's ending, where Geo is confident and cheerful and rational, the writers, new or not, had to MAKE Mega irrational in order to separate Mega's character from Geo's, so they made Geo the "Normal Protagonist" and Mega the "Crazy Sidekick."
All I'm saying is I miss SF1 Mega's personality, but SF2 and SF3 are a good alternative.
Also, Luna was a little too on edge this game, Bud got nice character development, and FOR CRYING OUT LOUD, I wish they gave Zack proper character development. Mostly because I see some of my younger self in him. At least the nerd bit.
I can def see why this game is the black sheep of the series but I have fond memories of this game, it’s actually the first megaman game I ever played and what got me into the series
Wish you uploaded more often. But whenever you do they're always instant classics!
Finally sat down to watch this video and honestly it makes me wanna go back and play the games again- Battle network as well.
As always, you are doing incredible work and highlighting games that deserve spotlight. You covered my favorite game of 2021 (Everhood) AND you cover these gems. BN3 alone should be considered a gaming masterpiece.
Just finished star force 2 It’s alright, I definitely got my bearings at the end, but the earlier sections were a GRINDDDD. I’ve used a guide the most On this game, and much prefer the easier difficulty of starforce 1, needless to say, solo’s cool, and i enjoyed the new forms, and linknpower is…alright but I feel like too many things were locked under link power.
Sonia's EM Human form was reference from Roll Caskett from Megaman Legend
Lanfront Ruins from Super Adventure Rockman is basically Mu and Ra Moon is basically King Ra (or Le Mu as he's _incorrectly_ known in this game).
Also General Auriga seems to be an MMX reference (albeit one less direct than Colonel in MMBN)
The Pirate or Angel based tribes would've made more sense over dinosaurs, but dinosaurs do make sense for a tribe that was wiped out in history (ours at least)
Last year I replayed all three Star Force games on my own for the first time in 5 or 6 years, and holy cow can I tell why I didn't replay 2 nearly as much as 1 when I was a kid. The encounter rate is absolutely absurd, especially on the sky wave, which is easily the worst part of any of these games to me. I feel like Bud and Zack's characterization in the first game was just a little lacking after they joined the main cast, so I appreciate that they tried to fix that, but they got exactly 1 personality trait each in this game and the writers would NOT let you forget it. Star Force 2 is by far the weakest in the trilogy, imo.
It's the weakest because it doesn't even at anything the way the other two games do. The first game had a great story and the third game had polished and really fun combat. This game is average but it's still great fun. I'm definitely going to apply the patch because yeah, the encounter rate was terrible.
because the living legend Masahiro Yasuma didn't do his glorious work in 2. what a let down. i really loved his story writing in 1 and 3 and it solidifies Star Force Mega Man's theming too. being a space themed Mega Man.
so happy you popped up in my algorithm again!!! been waiting for this one 😁
I found the star code that let’s you use tribe king as soon as you start every fight, this was after I had already beat the game though so I didn’t use it to simply give myself the perfect edge in the story
I remember doing that post game, and I was about 12 years old and I did all of it with little to no help since I didn’t have good/ consistent access to the internet at the time and at the end of it all back then there were no good guides for the Star Force series, much less were there videos on the subject. But I love Star Force too much to have backed down and to this day it is STILL my favorite iteration of MEGAMAN.
29:10 The brother message killed me
I got super into this game as a kid. I hadn't played the first game, but mostly I got super interested in the lore surrounding Mu plus I was obsessed with Solo/Rogue cause I was 11 lol
Mu Can only exist if you fold space time in multiple areas so multiple things are taken up the same space.
Looking forward to Starforce 3!
God Star Force 2 is a blur in my head, I only remember not enjoying it a lot and never beating that final Rogue battle not because I had to fight Le Mu again (that's the easy part) but because I had to watch the credits again every single time which were unskippable as far as I know. Also that feel when no Tribe King.
At least SF3 is great, played it like 2 or 3 times.
To be honest, I did like the game and founded very challenging, but I like how they develop Geo and Sonia’s relationship along side the rivalry between Geo and Solo or better said Star force and Rogue