Yeah not every villian needs to be the leader of an evil team but I think in more recent games they've been doing a away with that Sword & Shield didn't really have an evil team as Team Yell weren't really villians just annoying and in my opinion a bootleg version of Team Skull the real villian was Chairman Rose and Legends Arceus doesn't have an evil team either.
Yeah the orre games were interesting and I was hoping that they’d continue it after xd gale of darkness, but they never did and probably never will at this point.
I want to know why a Gamecube game, and a Wii game not only have better graphics, battle animations, models, but also a bigger Pokedex than current Switch games! 242 Pokémon - There are 242 Pokémon available in Pokémon Legends: Arceus 493 Pokémon - Battle Revolution is a 3D Battle simulator, featuring all 493 Pokémon, What is their excuse? Gamefreak has gotten way too lazy. I wish they'd take a year or 3 and actually just release a solid pokemon game, instead of the rushed crap that people continue blindly paying for. I miss when Pokemon games had real heart and soul put into them, no pun intended, but those games are a great example of when you could tell they cared, they tested the game from a player's POV, they made it charming, and... the battle animations are somehow even better in the 2D / 3DS versions, than any Switch game. Pokemon Emerald > Pokemon Legends Arceus.
Fun fact about Gonzap and his Skarmory. I failed to catch it during his Realgam fight. I also failed to catch during his rematch in his base. I fought him again and his dialogue was "Geez. You really want my Skarmory, don't you"
The dialogue in these games go above and beyond. In XD when you lose your snag arm, everyone you talk to notices and makes a comment. Also after you beat a key location, everyone you talk to reacts to what you did
While I do love the fact that they broke the trend of the protagonist being a goody two-shoes, it's a real shame they never did much with it. There was dialogue from npcs that hinted that Wes wasn't bothered much by petty crime like theft and the reason he blew up the hideout was because of an altercation between members of Team Snagem. It's implied that the argument was between Wes and the head of Team Snagem. I like to think that they were just a notorious gang but Cipher came to them with the plan of using Shadow Pokémon and this might have been where Wes drew the line. Unfortunately, this doesn't really amount to much aside from the confrontation in Realgam Tower. A great idea, but bogged down from the constraints of having a silent protagonist.
I agree. Played through Colloseum for the first time a few years ago. I loved the concept of the game, but ultimately felt it didn't go far enough in terms of plot and world building. One cool thing they could have done was have a small section where Wes and Gonzap hash it out prior to the Realgam encounter and expound on why exactly Wes did what he did.
I feel like they tried to make it like a traditional Japanese-styled RPG in the same vein as Dragon Quest or Final Fantasy, but kinda slipped on the landing.
@@zacke.1286 I think they were too constrained with trying to keep it like a Pokemon game that ultimately it didn't appeal to either traditional Japanese-styled RPG fans or Pokemon fans. like they wanted it to be balanced somewhere, but couldn't either due to time constraints or limitations of the Gamecube.
This is Colosseum's biggest disappointment imo, and it really makes me wish that they went with the original plans for XD For those unaware, in the original story Greeville wasn’t going to be the head boss of Cipher. It was going to be that you would find out that Wes wasn’t a good guy. Wes didn’t have pure intentions when taking down Evice in colosseum. Instead It was that he knew he was a skilled Pokémon trainer and saw a an opportunity to steal the snag machine from Team Snagem. He used that to get what he wanted, pretending to be a good guy and using everyone in the region to get a battle from Evice. After Cipher lost its boss, he would’ve become its new boss and doing a better job than Evice. They changed it due to thinking it'd be too edgy for a pokemon game and were worried that people who played XD first or replaying Colosseum would be miffed about playing the bad guy the whole time
Shame that now with the series being 3D the Pokemon Company probably has no interest in rereleasing them Also making an only double battle game and only letting you get Plusle is so dumb, the whole point of the two is to have them on double battles
@Kei* Fei Ku Nintendolife did a good video last year about Pokemon spin-offs that included Pokemon Channel, Pokemon Conquest, Hey You Pikachu and a few others.
Things that would be amazing to see. 1. Having these games rereleased on the switch. 2. Creating a sequel to XD to make a trilogy. 3. Make those games trade compatible with all the other Pokémon games on the switch.
Can't wait to hear you talk about Gale of Darkness; such a great game with the most absurd final boss in Pokemon history, I still can't believe they did what they did.
@@ilngsisfh Not if you challenge yourself to catch all 6 of Evice's shadow pokemon in one go. The battle feels much more epic as well imo. EDIT: Not counting Shadow Lugia.
@@AwesomeMooseSmile I wasn't counting Shadow Lugia, I meant all 6 in one battle after that. I assume most people just use their master ball on Lugia rather than trying to catch it with other balls and entering the second battle with injured pokemon. My bad for not clarifying.
One of the most fond gaming memories I have is my friends and I speedrunning this game in college because we didn't have a GC memory card. We did this during finals mind you so we played in shifts and were barely able to get in at a little over 24 hours.
@@saininj I would say even Stadium and Stadium 2 had more expressive Pokemon than Gen VI with a couple exceptions. I will give credit where it is due though, Gen VI was more expressive than Battle Revolution.
i STILL replay Colosseum / Gale of Darkness as a yearly tradition, trying out different mixes of teams. over a decade later and they still hold their charm. really hope the pokemon company wakes up & revisits this format sometime. *sigh*
A few extra fun facts to keep in mind: -When you are affected by a sleep status condition, calling your pokemon immediately wakes you up (therefore defeating the entire point of having the awakening item in the game) -Every snaggable pokemon you can get are only from generations 2 and 3. There are NO gen 1 pokemon you can catch in your storied playthrough.
What's this!? A SEQUEL to Pokemon!? And here I've been playing Pokemon 1.0, Pokemon 1.2, Pokemon 1.2.5, Pokemon 1.5, Pokemon 1.7.1, Pokemon 1.8.6 and Pokemon 1.9.2 for the last 25 years! Who knew Pokemon 2 had already been made all this time ago.
I loved Pokémon Coliseum back when it released. It was like the first 3d Pokemon RPG, though didn't feel like a proper main Pokemon. It was the game i wanted Pokemon to be after Pokemon Snap showed us how beautiful pokemon could look in 3d. Its pretty nostalgic to look back at this game. :)
You know what's really sad? Last year when The Pokemon Company had a montage video before the announcements of Pokemon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl along with Pokemon Legends Arceus. Nether Pokemon Colossuem nor XD appeared in the montage video, yet Pokemon Dash did. That will forever baffle me as a fan of the Orre duology.
I think I remember seeing one singular frame of a Colosseum Ludicolo, but that was it. Some random Japan only pez dispensers or whatever other gimmick got more screentime than my favourite pokemon entries in the entire series :/
This game has such nostalgic memories for me, I remember when I was 6 years old I was having trouble with the start of the game so I had my friend over for a sleep over for my birthday and he helped me play this game deep into the night.
I remember hearing awhile back that for some reason the Pokémon company had sold or lost to rights to coliseum and XD. That’s why you don’t see any kind of shadow Lugia renditions anywhere nowadays and the game are both totally ignored now :(
That wouldn't make sense since is still their franchise, Genious Sonority is still around doing Pokemon games, and James Turner was the one that designed Shadow Lugia anyway.
I love the fact that you played as a completely different, older character. I also love how Orre gives more depth to the Pokemon world; it isn't just your odd evil teams that are criminal. Orre seemed to be a dystopia riddled with corruption.
Ikr. No wild Pokemon, it's a total wasteland, have evil Teams ever actually tried to kidnap people before? (Lets ignore Mystery Dungeon Explorers of Sky here for this argument) I know for sure no other game started with bombing the bad guys xD
Thank you so much for putting a spotlight onto Colosseum. This game is incredibly important to me. I have a lot of fond memories struggling against some of this games hardest bosses and spending time in the stadiums purifying every single shadow pokemon. One day we might be able to revisit the Orre region, or even just see Miror B in Pokemon Masters.
Colosseum and XD will forever be the most underrated Pokemon games ever. They were especially rewarding because they featured many Gen 1 and 2 pokemon you couldn't get in Ruby and Sapphire. I see what they tried with Legend of Arceus, but man imagine if they made a game with as deep of a story as Colosseum/XD with all the battle mechanics and multiplayer. They should at least remake them.
Looking back that was a good way to do a plot twist in a game, "hey you know that character you saw very early in the game who you thought was just a minor character for this city ? Yeah he's actually the final boss". Not to mention the final battle theme slaps
Now we have (Legends spoilers) "Hey, you know that guy who's been helping you out the whole time and acts like he's your best friend? Turns out he's actually a zealous yandere psychopath who wants to both murder Arceus and make it love him, and he's about to legit try to kill you with the god of antimatter also he's somehow related to Cynthia, good luck!"
I don't see Colosseum being included in the Switch's 2nd or even 3rd year of GameCube support. It's not super obscure but it's prbly not even among the first 20 GC games Nintendo would think to release on such a service. Which is a shame because it and it's sequel are a great addition to the canon.
Yet, its actually up there for being expensive on the market wiuth the other used games. So it does have worth. Its only obscure because Gamefreak doesn't really recognize it. Even though i think it has a very well written story that comes close to Gen 5's in quality.
Well part of the reason for this games existence is to get the Pokemon for the Pokedex for gen 3. And to be tradeable to gen 3. So without the gen 3 aspect around anymore they feel the game doesn't work quite right I guess I also assume they don't want even more people saying how bad their animations are compared to an old GameCube game so...
I wouldn't mind seeing this return, but there is one change I'd like to see implemented: Shadow pokemon were a cool addition, but I would also like a much larger selection of wild pokemon to catch on top of the shadow pokemon. I know in GoD they did this, somewhat, but the roster was pretty small. They wouldn't have to put every pokemon in, that would be fucking insane to ask, but I would like maybe 200+ in total, both wild and shadow pokemon. Just for variety sake.
@@icypika I know, and I will give them props for actually giving a reason. I'm just not a big fan of having such a restrictive roster to pick from. And something else I forgot to mention, I cannot with having nearly ever battle be a double battle. Fans complained about Gen 4 being slow, but these games make those look far quicker in comparison.
That is fair I found it interesting. And the restriction was part of what made the game challenging which is what a lot of people say they want. I think it would be interesting to see a new region with Cipher.
@@icypika Same. The series has a lot of potential, and I would like to see it come back. Maybe with the direction GF is taking pokemon now, being more action gameplay/open world, maybe they can try it themselves.
I absolutely flipped when I saw we started with Espeon and my favorite Eeveelution at the time Umbreon. I never got to play the game but one day, I hope we get it on Virtual Console or a remake.
You know that Dolphin emulator and the Colosseum/XD roms only take like 5 minutes to download, right? I wish they would too, but they aren't going to do that because they're nintendo. You may as well just download them and enjoy them in their original form at this point. :)
It was so different the main series pokemon but it worked so well. The atmosphere is great, the music is solid, and its difficult but fair. One of my favorite things about it are the battles, having them all be a double makes the battles feel grander and more of a spectacle. The shadow pokemon are very interesting too, a criminal group using science to turn pokemon into malicious living weapons is twisted yet makes for a good plot. Even the main character himself formally being a criminal was nice choice as it adds mystery and makes him look like a badass. I played XD growing up and never knew about colosseum until I was older, but even then I would love to see pokemon do something like this again
I LOVE Colosseum and XD. I still feel to this day that XD has enough loose ends to warrant a sequel, and one of my biggest gaming disappointments is that Battle Revolution wasn't Shadow Pokemon 3. Hopefully they'll make a third shadow pokemon game someday.
Man, I would love to see another Pokemon that is allowed to have this kind of edge. Orre is my 2nd favorite region after Hoenn, the desolate Mad Max styling of it is so unique to Pokemon and I wish Game Freak was willing to give this harsh atmosphere another try.
They did so many things right with Colosseum that it still saddens me to this day that they didn't take enough of the lessons from that game and apply them to the later ones. I understand that the other games make your character a generic blank-slate goody-two-shoes from a small town to make it easier for the players to project themselves into the character but I LOVED how they gave Wes considerably more depth by giving him a stronger backstory and a morally gray one at that. Made playing the game much more interesting and enjoyable. I was supremely disappointed when I played Gale of Darkness and found they more or less reverted back to the norm, making the game feel a lot more boring as a result. You've also hit a slew of the other highlights that make Colosseum a true hidden gem among the other Pokemon games. We're definitely not going to get another Wes for Scarlet/Violet but maybe one day if they ever do a Legends 2 they'll give us a more interesting main character to drive the plot forward.
@@leonardofarias8843 We don't know what all he did prior to his dramatic departure but he definitely went on to bring down more than one criminal group...
Fun little thing I ended up figuring out years later after my first playthrough as a kid, the game actually does give you a decent way to grind up for the final Battles of the story Via the many other Colosseums throughout the Region. While the Phenac Colosseum is definitely meant for those who wanna train up non-story party members, the Pyrite Colosseum and the Under Colosseum are great ways to train because all the teams in those Colosseums are all Type based, so its perfect to raise certain types that are in need of grinding.
Love seeing people try out the GameCube games, underrated entries in the franchise. Didn’t know you streamed on twitch and plan too at least watch your colosseum streams and XD if I can catch those.
6:48 Also why older RPGs tended to have the party members merge into the party leader (or just never appear while you control the party leader). I remember a Final Fantasy parody once made a joke about that.
# 001 Funny enough the only main series Final Fantasy game that doesn't do this is 8 (my favorite game of the series). Also Earthbound and Chrono Trigger actually has your party follow you.
@@bulbasaur15 Also every Final Fantasy game after 8 of course. Also Dragon Quest games I think also had your party follow you. I know it was a thing in Dragon Warrior Monsters and DQVII.
Although you just discovered this game I’m happy you did! I love this title I was OBSESSED with it back in the day, this and Pokémon XD Gale of Darkness Happy to see your video shed some light on this amazing Pokémon game
I remember that I actually succeeded in purifying Shadow Raikou with regular grinding without using a Time Flute. I literally sent it to every battle I could, but it was worth it. Went from lvl 40 to lvl 62 just like that. Really helped in the battle against Evice.
Right? Because I was the only person in my friend group that had these two, it all felt more personal, as I had no one to discuss these games with. Would love to relive them!
1:37 Not all of them are thieves. Especially not Team Yell who are basically just a bunch of British football hooligans (apparently while football hooligans tend to commit several crimes and acts of straight up terrorism, theft actually isn't common among them).
still my favorite pokemon game to this date but they refuse to even acknowledge it. :( I liked gen 3, but not because of ruby or sapphire, decent games as they were, but because of this game.
I've been wanting them to come back to this for years. The anti-hero MC (that they needed to expand on) that had an awesome character design, catching other trainer's pokemon to purify them, great animations, taking down an evil organization as the main plot, SIM battles, everything this game had to offer. This was the biggest turn for the series and it's sad that they never tried this again after Gale of Darkness.
Colosseum and XD Gale, Were such fun games. As someone who's played every gen, These felt so fun and unique for their time. God they were such great games in my childhood. Easily in my top 3 Gamecube games
Pokemon peaked on GameCube . Colosseum and XD were the best pokemon games . But since they weren’t made by gamefreak, GF refuses to acknowledge they even exist . Which sucks , because they were by far the most unique . Also the most memorable
The Pokemon animations in these games had life & soul. Not how it is today. I've nothing to spend on games with me trying to just live here, so I'm encouraged to emulate this instead of just worry about the "next best Pokemon game"
My biggest issues with this game were A) it was a bit on the short side, B) it felt like there was a bit too much battling and not enough areas to just freely explore, and C) grinding to purify shadow pokemon could be an utter slog at times.
In the attract fight. I got the fight down to my Umbreon vs her Vilploom. I was under attract and paralysis while the Vilploom was confused and paralyzed. The rng in the fight had me on the edge of my seat
Sometimes I forget that there are millions of kids who were born long after the days of GameCube and, thus, didn't get to play this game. :P I was 22 years old when the game released in the US and my sister was in high school. We clocked in so many hours on this game, though I guess that doesn't mean much, considering we did the same thing to every game we've owned. Don't get me started on how much of our lives we "wasted" on Puzzle League. 😆 N64 and GC will always be my favorite consoles. I'm glad newer generations can enjoy these amazing games. Colosseum was an incredibly unique game that my sister and I enjoyed a lot. We still have it. We rarely get rid of our games. Still have a lot of our old NES, SNES, PSX, and PS2 games. ❤️ We, sadly, never got Gale of Darkness. By the time I hunted for it, it was already way over priced. Someday...
That would an interesting idea of giving the bad guys the non-focused legendaries of a game. Actually show that the generals of the evil team are a challenge instead of has more than 2 pokemon
I actually replayed these games last year, and for the most part, it’s a great time. I’ll admit that I got stuck on Colosseum at the Realgam admin gauntlet (which is funny because I remember getting stuck on Gonzap as a kid which is a later fight), but I did manage to 100% Gale of Darkness.
Mount Battle Ho-Oh is only obtainable if you manage to do it in battle mode. The one in the story mode is not gonna give you anything at all (aside from some ribbons and MTs for your pokémon) I had to redo all 100 battles again as a kid lmao
8:07 If Sega ever outsources another Space Channel 5 game and/or Samba De Amigo game (because they sure as hell won't make one themselves, just as they outsourced the Alex Kidd remake, Panzer Dragoon remake, Streets of Rage 4, etc), Mirror B should be a guest character on the release for whatever Nintendo console is the newest at the time.
It honestly upsets me how little respect Gamefreak showed towards this spin-off series. Masuda shot down the idea of ever returning to the Orre region without hesitation, not even leaving that door open. You kind of get the impression they aren't very fond of these games. What's also upsetting is how Genius Sonority was practically downgraded to working on mobile games. They arguable brought the most innovation to the series, and next to none of their ideas carried over into the mainline games.
I never had Colosseum but did have XD Gale Of Darkness and loved it until I got too scared to fight Shadow Lugia toward the end of the game and never beat it. I was a coward.
That Shadow Lugia was no joke! I tried to do a pokeball only run and even at near 1 HP and asleep, he still wouldn't stay in the ball. I threw so many at it....
I never played this game or its sequel (mainly due to not having a GameCube), but what I've seen of them has really caught my interest. I really wish for there to be another game of this sort at some point in the future. Not necessarily a direct follow-up to the GameCube duology, just a Doubles-focused game in general. Thing is, I feel that Double Battles open up a lot more opportunities for difficult and memorable boss fights as well as creative player strategies/tactics than Single Battles ever could. (And since many people, rightfully or not, complain that Pokémon is "too easy", maybe a game of this sort would satisfy that crowd). I, for one, would love to rise to the challenge and see how clever I can get with the possibilities Doubles offer. And as Monger says, despite how much attention was drawn to their introduction in Gen 3, Doubles have always been incredibly underused in the main series (albeit Emerald at least tried), and then you have all these moves and Abilities clearly meant for Doubles (Wide Guard, Helping Hand, Heal Pulse, Plus/Minus, Telepathy, Healer...), but of course you'll never use them in a playthrough where the amount of Double Battles you'll face can be counted on one hand. It's sad, really. I get that we can get to see some of that in PvP and in Battle Facilities (Tower -& clones-, Frontier, PWT and such), but imagine getting to develop and adjust your Doubles playstyle over the course of a full-fledged campaign. It would be a whole other experience. One we haven't been offered since Gen 3.
Like, first Amazing and truthful review of the game Mong. The fear in your voice when you realized Slaking didnt have truant anymore will never be forgotten.
Cipher Leaders in this game actually use pokemon in random order. For example in your run Nascour used Gardevoir and Xatu first - in my run he used Blaziken and Walrein first.
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I wish they revive this awesome spin-off series someday! Or at the very least, introduce more vigilante protagonists to shake up the formula
Yeah not every villian needs to be the leader of an evil team but I think in more recent games they've been doing a away with that Sword & Shield didn't really have an evil team as Team Yell weren't really villians just annoying and in my opinion a bootleg version of Team Skull the real villian was Chairman Rose and Legends Arceus doesn't have an evil team either.
I love this game I need to replay this again
Yeah the orre games were interesting and I was hoping that they’d continue it after xd gale of darkness, but they never did and probably never will at this point.
I want to know why a Gamecube game, and a Wii game not only have better graphics, battle animations, models, but also a bigger Pokedex than current Switch games!
242 Pokémon - There are 242 Pokémon available in Pokémon Legends: Arceus
493 Pokémon - Battle Revolution is a 3D Battle simulator, featuring all 493 Pokémon,
What is their excuse? Gamefreak has gotten way too lazy. I wish they'd take a year or 3 and actually just release a solid pokemon game, instead of the rushed crap that people continue blindly paying for.
I miss when Pokemon games had real heart and soul put into them, no pun intended, but those games are a great example of when you could tell they cared, they tested the game from a player's POV, they made it charming, and... the battle animations are somehow even better in the 2D / 3DS versions, than any Switch game.
Pokemon Emerald > Pokemon Legends Arceus.
@@ZeranZeran Suits obviously.
Fun fact about Gonzap and his Skarmory.
I failed to catch it during his Realgam fight. I also failed to catch during his rematch in his base. I fought him again and his dialogue was
"Geez. You really want my Skarmory, don't you"
The dialogue in these games go above and beyond.
In XD when you lose your snag arm, everyone you talk to notices and makes a comment. Also after you beat a key location, everyone you talk to reacts to what you did
@@devonjohnson8536it's not like I said that I sleep in a homemade plusle costume or anything
PKMN COLOSEEUM AND XD WERE WHAT SWORD AND SHIELD SHOULD HAVE BEEN D:
Preach
I sense a Temtem fan
How so?🤔
Facts Arceus nice though 🤓
People keep parroting this like sheep.
While I do love the fact that they broke the trend of the protagonist being a goody two-shoes, it's a real shame they never did much with it. There was dialogue from npcs that hinted that Wes wasn't bothered much by petty crime like theft and the reason he blew up the hideout was because of an altercation between members of Team Snagem. It's implied that the argument was between Wes and the head of Team Snagem. I like to think that they were just a notorious gang but Cipher came to them with the plan of using Shadow Pokémon and this might have been where Wes drew the line.
Unfortunately, this doesn't really amount to much aside from the confrontation in Realgam Tower. A great idea, but bogged down from the constraints of having a silent protagonist.
People dont want to talk about this, but its pretty huge. Bogs down what people say is a good thing about these games.
I agree. Played through Colloseum for the first time a few years ago. I loved the concept of the game, but ultimately felt it didn't go far enough in terms of plot and world building.
One cool thing they could have done was have a small section where Wes and Gonzap hash it out prior to the Realgam encounter and expound on why exactly Wes did what he did.
I feel like they tried to make it like a traditional Japanese-styled RPG in the same vein as Dragon Quest or Final Fantasy, but kinda slipped on the landing.
@@zacke.1286 I think they were too constrained with trying to keep it like a Pokemon game that ultimately it didn't appeal to either traditional Japanese-styled RPG fans or Pokemon fans. like they wanted it to be balanced somewhere, but couldn't either due to time constraints or limitations of the Gamecube.
This is Colosseum's biggest disappointment imo, and it really makes me wish that they went with the original plans for XD
For those unaware, in the original story Greeville wasn’t going to be the head boss of Cipher. It was going to be that you would find out that Wes wasn’t a good guy. Wes didn’t have pure intentions when taking down Evice in colosseum. Instead It was that he knew he was a skilled Pokémon trainer and saw a an opportunity to steal the snag machine from Team Snagem. He used that to get what he wanted, pretending to be a good guy and using everyone in the region to get a battle from Evice. After Cipher lost its boss, he would’ve become its new boss and doing a better job than Evice.
They changed it due to thinking it'd be too edgy for a pokemon game and were worried that people who played XD first or replaying Colosseum would be miffed about playing the bad guy the whole time
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"Anyway, with the creator of penis music defeated" made me laugh way harder than it should have.
Shame that now with the series being 3D the Pokemon Company probably has no interest in rereleasing them
Also making an only double battle game and only letting you get Plusle is so dumb, the whole point of the two is to have them on double battles
There is unused data for a Shadow Minun, so it looks the idea was considered.
Honestly with the number of double focused pokemon we've got by now, another take on a style like this could be pretty cool
@@brunolinares604 sure ig didn't bad anything to do with Pokemon Go ?
I think it's more due to the middling reviews and sales rather than the series going full 3D.
If anything I'd rather have a third game.
@Kei* Fei Ku Nintendolife did a good video last year about Pokemon spin-offs that included Pokemon Channel, Pokemon Conquest, Hey You Pikachu and a few others.
Things that would be amazing to see.
1. Having these games rereleased on the switch.
2. Creating a sequel to XD to make a trilogy.
3. Make those games trade compatible with all the other Pokémon games on the switch.
How XD ended basically hints at a possible trilogy with one of the two brothers still being bad.
I know this year old but rereleasing these would be a good move thats not Nintendo's MO
Can't wait to hear you talk about Gale of Darkness; such a great game with the most absurd final boss in Pokemon history, I still can't believe they did what they did.
It was easy tho
@@ilngsisfh Not if you challenge yourself to catch all 6 of Evice's shadow pokemon in one go. The battle feels much more epic as well imo.
EDIT: Not counting Shadow Lugia.
@@rgamer4272 don't you mean 7?
@@AwesomeMooseSmile I wasn't counting Shadow Lugia, I meant all 6 in one battle after that. I assume most people just use their master ball on Lugia rather than trying to catch it with other balls and entering the second battle with injured pokemon. My bad for not clarifying.
@@rgamer4272I’ve never even considered not catching all of them in one try. That would be lame
One of the most fond gaming memories I have is my friends and I speedrunning this game in college because we didn't have a GC memory card. We did this during finals mind you so we played in shifts and were barely able to get in at a little over 24 hours.
Now that’s college antics I can get behind
man this HAS to be one of the best pokemon games. Look at the animations, they're so expressive and nice to look at
It's so sad that a 20 year old game had more expressive animation than the 3D from Gen 6 and onward.
(Sees Dakim)
Me: Almost everything. That man however will haunt my nightmares.
@@saininj I would say even Stadium and Stadium 2 had more expressive Pokemon than Gen VI with a couple exceptions. I will give credit where it is due though, Gen VI was more expressive than Battle Revolution.
@@kuramayoko23 The Stadium games, Orre games, and Battle Revolution mostly all use the same models for returning Pokémon.
i STILL replay Colosseum / Gale of Darkness as a yearly tradition, trying out different mixes of teams. over a decade later and they still hold their charm. really hope the pokemon company wakes up & revisits this format sometime. *sigh*
try the mod + randomizers. should be fun
A few extra fun facts to keep in mind:
-When you are affected by a sleep status condition, calling your pokemon immediately wakes you up (therefore defeating the entire point of having the awakening item in the game)
-Every snaggable pokemon you can get are only from generations 2 and 3. There are NO gen 1 pokemon you can catch in your storied playthrough.
Nobody ever talks about the D-Disk and the deep under Colosseum. Where you can continue to fight the Cipher Admins and Agnol.
"Rain dish? what the hell is that?" - 1st timer's famous last words...
What's this!? A SEQUEL to Pokemon!?
And here I've been playing Pokemon 1.0, Pokemon 1.2, Pokemon 1.2.5, Pokemon 1.5, Pokemon 1.7.1, Pokemon 1.8.6 and Pokemon 1.9.2 for the last 25 years!
Who knew Pokemon 2 had already been made all this time ago.
I loved Pokémon Coliseum back when it released. It was like the first 3d Pokemon RPG, though didn't feel like a proper main Pokemon. It was the game i wanted Pokemon to be after Pokemon Snap showed us how beautiful pokemon could look in 3d.
Its pretty nostalgic to look back at this game. :)
It's less like a Pokemon game and more like a traditional JRPG
You know what's really sad? Last year when The Pokemon Company had a montage video before the announcements
of Pokemon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl along with Pokemon Legends Arceus. Nether Pokemon Colossuem
nor XD appeared in the montage video, yet Pokemon Dash did. That will forever baffle me as a fan of
the Orre duology.
I think I remember seeing one singular frame of a Colosseum Ludicolo, but that was it.
Some random Japan only pez dispensers or whatever other gimmick got more screentime than my favourite pokemon entries in the entire series :/
It really sucks it’s like they want to pretend these games never happened for some reason.
Because these two games were not made by them.
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It's for the best.
Man i love Colosseum and Gale of Darkness, they are such a mess but are still outstanding entries on the series.
This game has such nostalgic memories for me, I remember when I was 6 years old I was having trouble with the start of the game so I had my friend over for a sleep over for my birthday and he helped me play this game deep into the night.
I remember hearing awhile back that for some reason the Pokémon company had sold or lost to rights to coliseum and XD. That’s why you don’t see any kind of shadow Lugia renditions anywhere nowadays and the game are both totally ignored now :(
That's good reason.
It's for the best.
Am a huge fan of both games.
Am happy they're being ignored.
That wouldn't make sense since is still their franchise, Genious Sonority is still around doing Pokemon games, and James Turner was the one that designed Shadow Lugia anyway.
I doubt it.
AFAIK that's not true; TPC still owns the rights to the games- heck, they've absorbed most of the Genius Sonority members into Game Freak anyway...
I love the fact that you played as a completely different, older character. I also love how Orre gives more depth to the Pokemon world; it isn't just your odd evil teams that are criminal. Orre seemed to be a dystopia riddled with corruption.
Ikr. No wild Pokemon, it's a total wasteland, have evil Teams ever actually tried to kidnap people before? (Lets ignore Mystery Dungeon Explorers of Sky here for this argument)
I know for sure no other game started with bombing the bad guys xD
Getting Hoh-Ho was the greatest achievement I've felt in a very long time. I worked my butt off!!
The last battle was crazy
Kyogre was too op 😖
Thank you so much for putting a spotlight onto Colosseum. This game is incredibly important to me. I have a lot of fond memories struggling against some of this games hardest bosses and spending time in the stadiums purifying every single shadow pokemon. One day we might be able to revisit the Orre region, or even just see Miror B in Pokemon Masters.
18:26 Actually Mystery Gift existed since Gen II, but mythical Pokémon were only distributed through in-person events, not Wi-Fi.
Colosseum and XD will forever be the most underrated Pokemon games ever. They were especially rewarding because they featured many Gen 1 and 2 pokemon you couldn't get in Ruby and Sapphire. I see what they tried with Legend of Arceus, but man imagine if they made a game with as deep of a story as Colosseum/XD with all the battle mechanics and multiplayer. They should at least remake them.
Looking back that was a good way to do a plot twist in a game, "hey you know that character you saw very early in the game who you thought was just a minor character for this city ? Yeah he's actually the final boss". Not to mention the final battle theme slaps
Sounds very scooby do like
Now we have (Legends spoilers)
"Hey, you know that guy who's been helping you out the whole time and acts like he's your best friend? Turns out he's actually a zealous yandere psychopath who wants to both murder Arceus and make it love him, and he's about to legit try to kill you with the god of antimatter also he's somehow related to Cynthia, good luck!"
@@BJGvideos are you referring to the merchant in the game ?
@@Lucario1121 Oh yeah hahaha.
I don't see Colosseum being included in the Switch's 2nd or even 3rd year of GameCube support. It's not super obscure but it's prbly not even among the first 20 GC games Nintendo would think to release on such a service. Which is a shame because it and it's sequel are a great addition to the canon.
Yet, its actually up there for being expensive on the market wiuth the other used games. So it does have worth. Its only obscure because Gamefreak doesn't really recognize it. Even though i think it has a very well written story that comes close to Gen 5's in quality.
Ideally I wouldn't mind seeing some sort of remaster of this game. Maybe update the graphics to be more modern and see how it's received.
Well part of the reason for this games existence is to get the Pokemon for the Pokedex for gen 3. And to be tradeable to gen 3. So without the gen 3 aspect around anymore they feel the game doesn't work quite right I guess I also assume they don't want even more people saying how bad their animations are compared to an old GameCube game so...
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I wouldn't mind seeing this return, but there is one change I'd like to see implemented: Shadow pokemon were a cool addition, but I would also like a much larger selection of wild pokemon to catch on top of the shadow pokemon. I know in GoD they did this, somewhat, but the roster was pretty small. They wouldn't have to put every pokemon in, that would be fucking insane to ask, but I would like maybe 200+ in total, both wild and shadow pokemon. Just for variety sake.
To be fair there was a story reason. The complete desert region makes it hard for wild Pokemon to survive without a steady supply food.
@@icypika I know, and I will give them props for actually giving a reason. I'm just not a big fan of having such a restrictive roster to pick from. And something else I forgot to mention, I cannot with having nearly ever battle be a double battle. Fans complained about Gen 4 being slow, but these games make those look far quicker in comparison.
That is fair I found it interesting. And the restriction was part of what made the game challenging which is what a lot of people say they want. I think it would be interesting to see a new region with Cipher.
@@icypika Same. The series has a lot of potential, and I would like to see it come back. Maybe with the direction GF is taking pokemon now, being more action gameplay/open world, maybe they can try it themselves.
Maybe
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I absolutely flipped when I saw we started with Espeon and my favorite Eeveelution at the time Umbreon. I never got to play the game but one day, I hope we get it on Virtual Console or a remake.
thanks to that game those two are my favorite and only eeveelutions i use
this game made espeon and umbreon my fav pokemon at time, and still are to this day. wish they'd make a new addition to the series
*Yarrs in pirate*
They have had soon to be 20 years to make the games available for purchase again so I don't have any moral qualms about pirating it.
You know that Dolphin emulator and the Colosseum/XD roms only take like 5 minutes to download, right?
I wish they would too, but they aren't going to do that because they're nintendo. You may as well just download them and enjoy them in their original form at this point. :)
Maybe a controversial take, but...
ESPEON > UMBREON
It was so different the main series pokemon but it worked so well. The atmosphere is great, the music is solid, and its difficult but fair. One of my favorite things about it are the battles, having them all be a double makes the battles feel grander and more of a spectacle. The shadow pokemon are very interesting too, a criminal group using science to turn pokemon into malicious living weapons is twisted yet makes for a good plot. Even the main character himself formally being a criminal was nice choice as it adds mystery and makes him look like a badass. I played XD growing up and never knew about colosseum until I was older, but even then I would love to see pokemon do something like this again
That Pokemon expert being brought face to face with Entei is...such a magical moment to behold.
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It doesn't affect misdreavus flasbacks.
I LOVE Colosseum and XD. I still feel to this day that XD has enough loose ends to warrant a sequel, and one of my biggest gaming disappointments is that Battle Revolution wasn't Shadow Pokemon 3. Hopefully they'll make a third shadow pokemon game someday.
Colosseum is and always will be my favorite pokemon game!
Man, I would love to see another Pokemon that is allowed to have this kind of edge. Orre is my 2nd favorite region after Hoenn, the desolate Mad Max styling of it is so unique to Pokemon and I wish Game Freak was willing to give this harsh atmosphere another try.
They did so many things right with Colosseum that it still saddens me to this day that they didn't take enough of the lessons from that game and apply them to the later ones. I understand that the other games make your character a generic blank-slate goody-two-shoes from a small town to make it easier for the players to project themselves into the character but I LOVED how they gave Wes considerably more depth by giving him a stronger backstory and a morally gray one at that. Made playing the game much more interesting and enjoyable. I was supremely disappointed when I played Gale of Darkness and found they more or less reverted back to the norm, making the game feel a lot more boring as a result. You've also hit a slew of the other highlights that make Colosseum a true hidden gem among the other Pokemon games. We're definitely not going to get another Wes for Scarlet/Violet but maybe one day if they ever do a Legends 2 they'll give us a more interesting main character to drive the plot forward.
Aside from blowing up a hideout, what Wes does?
@@leonardofarias8843 We don't know what all he did prior to his dramatic departure but he definitely went on to bring down more than one criminal group...
@@lordtrinen2249 Well he’s not a goodie two shoes but doesn’t seems to be heartless
It’s crazy how much the colosseum overworld looks like legends arceus
Fun little thing I ended up figuring out years later after my first playthrough as a kid, the game actually does give you a decent way to grind up for the final Battles of the story Via the many other Colosseums throughout the Region. While the Phenac Colosseum is definitely meant for those who wanna train up non-story party members, the Pyrite Colosseum and the Under Colosseum are great ways to train because all the teams in those Colosseums are all Type based, so its perfect to raise certain types that are in need of grinding.
Love seeing people try out the GameCube games, underrated entries in the franchise. Didn’t know you streamed on twitch and plan too at least watch your colosseum streams and XD if I can catch those.
Oh my gosh! I had a strategy guide for this game too and I think this is the first time I’ve ever learned about Mirakle B!
6:48 Also why older RPGs tended to have the party members merge into the party leader (or just never appear while you control the party leader). I remember a Final Fantasy parody once made a joke about that.
# 001 Funny enough the only main series Final Fantasy game that doesn't do this is 8 (my favorite game of the series).
Also Earthbound and Chrono Trigger actually has your party follow you.
@@bulbasaur15 Also every Final Fantasy game after 8 of course. Also Dragon Quest games I think also had your party follow you. I know it was a thing in Dragon Warrior Monsters and DQVII.
@@bulbasaur15 And Breath of Fire Franchise does it too
My childhood brain has tried its best to block out the Skill Swap Slowking and Slaking.
Although you just discovered this game I’m happy you did! I love this title I was OBSESSED with it back in the day, this and Pokémon XD Gale of Darkness
Happy to see your video shed some light on this amazing Pokémon game
I remember that I actually succeeded in purifying Shadow Raikou with regular grinding without using a Time Flute. I literally sent it to every battle I could, but it was worth it. Went from lvl 40 to lvl 62 just like that. Really helped in the battle against Evice.
Colosseum is definitively one of the Best Spinoffs to come out of Pokemon franchise.
If they combine Legends with Collosuem and Gale of Darkness I would definitely play this non stop so much potential
Right? Because I was the only person in my friend group that had these two, it all felt more personal, as I had no one to discuss these games with.
Would love to relive them!
1:37 Not all of them are thieves. Especially not Team Yell who are basically just a bunch of British football hooligans (apparently while football hooligans tend to commit several crimes and acts of straight up terrorism, theft actually isn't common among them).
This game has been my first and favorite Pokémon game ever, I hope they make a sequel or something similar to this again with shadow pokemon.
I still miss mini games. I'd still play this if there were minigames
The best part about Mirror B: The Music
The second best part about Mirror B: The Ludicolo seem to dace to the Music
still my favorite pokemon game to this date but they refuse to even acknowledge it. :( I liked gen 3, but not because of ruby or sapphire, decent games as they were, but because of this game.
I've been wanting them to come back to this for years. The anti-hero MC (that they needed to expand on) that had an awesome character design, catching other trainer's pokemon to purify them, great animations, taking down an evil organization as the main plot, SIM battles, everything this game had to offer. This was the biggest turn for the series and it's sad that they never tried this again after Gale of Darkness.
Fun fact, Evice and Nascour's leads AREN'T SET IN STONE, THEY CAN BE ANY RANDOM COMBO THAT SYNERGIZES WELL
Awesome video dude love your channel and I love this game it has such a unique story and feel
Colosseum and XD Gale, Were such fun games.
As someone who's played every gen, These felt so fun and unique for their time.
God they were such great games in my childhood. Easily in my top 3 Gamecube games
Yo, who remembers the unlimited/infinite pokeball glitch? Man that saved me on trips and money good times, good times!
"Espeon we found another reliable member of Terrorism Company!"
Pokemon peaked on GameCube . Colosseum and XD were the best pokemon games . But since they weren’t made by gamefreak, GF refuses to acknowledge they even exist . Which sucks , because they were by far the most unique . Also the most memorable
Hell yeah! Earliest I've ever been and hyped to see this!
It was fun playing Pokémon Coliseum years beck, the animation is beautiful and the story experience is entertaining. Thanks for this video! 😁
I played colosseum and gale of darkness as a child and they are still a perfect example of what Pokémon could be today on the switch.
Great review this was my goldmine as a kid. This game made my childhood straight up
The Pokemon animations in these games had life & soul. Not how it is today. I've nothing to spend on games with me trying to just live here, so I'm encouraged to emulate this instead of just worry about the "next best Pokemon game"
My biggest issues with this game were A) it was a bit on the short side, B) it felt like there was a bit too much battling and not enough areas to just freely explore, and C) grinding to purify shadow pokemon could be an utter slog at times.
I agree on the grinding, not only on purifying but even catching some of them was a real hassle
And imo all 3 things were fixed by XD
In the attract fight. I got the fight down to my Umbreon vs her Vilploom. I was under attract and paralysis while the Vilploom was confused and paralyzed. The rng in the fight had me on the edge of my seat
love the vid Ive been listening to the soundtrack this entire week this vid help enforce my nostalgia
Their are many games that people want a sequel to like metroid dread and metroid prime 4 but I want coliseum 3 to come out tbh
Sometimes I forget that there are millions of kids who were born long after the days of GameCube and, thus, didn't get to play this game. :P I was 22 years old when the game released in the US and my sister was in high school. We clocked in so many hours on this game, though I guess that doesn't mean much, considering we did the same thing to every game we've owned. Don't get me started on how much of our lives we "wasted" on Puzzle League. 😆 N64 and GC will always be my favorite consoles.
I'm glad newer generations can enjoy these amazing games. Colosseum was an incredibly unique game that my sister and I enjoyed a lot. We still have it. We rarely get rid of our games. Still have a lot of our old NES, SNES, PSX, and PS2 games. ❤️
We, sadly, never got Gale of Darkness. By the time I hunted for it, it was already way over priced. Someday...
That would an interesting idea of giving the bad guys the non-focused legendaries of a game. Actually show that the generals of the evil team are a challenge instead of has more than 2 pokemon
I actually replayed these games last year, and for the most part, it’s a great time. I’ll admit that I got stuck on Colosseum at the Realgam admin gauntlet (which is funny because I remember getting stuck on Gonzap as a kid which is a later fight), but I did manage to 100% Gale of Darkness.
As a kid, I remember thinking all of my Pokémon were OP because I brought them over from gold.
Just to not win a single gym badge 😂
Colosseum is hands down the most underrated Pokemon game of all time!
Mount Battle Ho-Oh is only obtainable if you manage to do it in battle mode. The one in the story mode is not gonna give you anything at all (aside from some ribbons and MTs for your pokémon) I had to redo all 100 battles again as a kid lmao
Mirror B is doing a tree only challenge run until the protagonist ruins it
8:07 If Sega ever outsources another Space Channel 5 game and/or Samba De Amigo game (because they sure as hell won't make one themselves, just as they outsourced the Alex Kidd remake, Panzer Dragoon remake, Streets of Rage 4, etc), Mirror B should be a guest character on the release for whatever Nintendo console is the newest at the time.
XD Gale of Drakness is a personal favourite.
Two videos in under a week! I really enjoy them so keep up the good work!
wes: mhm yes these are my dogs
umbreon: let me give you a crim-in-al kiss "Kisses espeon"
15:28: "Riku and Kuja's lovechild..."
Truer words were never spoken. XD
It honestly upsets me how little respect Gamefreak showed towards this spin-off series.
Masuda shot down the idea of ever returning to the Orre region without hesitation, not even leaving that door open. You kind of get the impression they aren't very fond of these games. What's also upsetting is how Genius Sonority was practically downgraded to working on mobile games. They arguable brought the most innovation to the series, and next to none of their ideas carried over into the mainline games.
8:56 there is a part where you catch houndour and i taught it fire blast when i got the tm for it and faint attack so now i think it is my lead
Gen 3 was such a cool time for the series, I really need to go back and replay this and XD
Honestly, I love how this game has its npcs use moves that in most games are exploits the players discover on accident.
I never had Colosseum but did have XD Gale Of Darkness and loved it until I got too scared to fight Shadow Lugia toward the end of the game and never beat it. I was a coward.
That Shadow Lugia was no joke! I tried to do a pokeball only run and even at near 1 HP and asleep, he still wouldn't stay in the ball. I threw so many at it....
Wish they made this into an animated OVA by Studio Madhouse, now THAT would of been amazing to watch! (Gotta SAVE 'em all!)
I sincerely hope this game gets a proper remake, with all the bells and whistles. I miss Coliseum and XD.
Jumpluff or Ampharos or even Plusle are handy to use; they come with all sorts of status moves to make snagging stuff easier.
Thank you for making this video I wish more people would talk about this game so Nintendo could do a rerelease for Switch
Funny how I owned this game, played it multiple times, but can’t remember anything about it at all. Only that it existed
I never played this game or its sequel (mainly due to not having a GameCube), but what I've seen of them has really caught my interest. I really wish for there to be another game of this sort at some point in the future. Not necessarily a direct follow-up to the GameCube duology, just a Doubles-focused game in general.
Thing is, I feel that Double Battles open up a lot more opportunities for difficult and memorable boss fights as well as creative player strategies/tactics than Single Battles ever could. (And since many people, rightfully or not, complain that Pokémon is "too easy", maybe a game of this sort would satisfy that crowd). I, for one, would love to rise to the challenge and see how clever I can get with the possibilities Doubles offer.
And as Monger says, despite how much attention was drawn to their introduction in Gen 3, Doubles have always been incredibly underused in the main series (albeit Emerald at least tried), and then you have all these moves and Abilities clearly meant for Doubles (Wide Guard, Helping Hand, Heal Pulse, Plus/Minus, Telepathy, Healer...), but of course you'll never use them in a playthrough where the amount of Double Battles you'll face can be counted on one hand.
It's sad, really. I get that we can get to see some of that in PvP and in Battle Facilities (Tower -& clones-, Frontier, PWT and such), but imagine getting to develop and adjust your Doubles playstyle over the course of a full-fledged campaign. It would be a whole other experience. One we haven't been offered since Gen 3.
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Amazing and truthful review of the game Mong. The fear in your voice when you realized Slaking didnt have truant anymore will never be forgotten.
"Let me give you a criminal kiss~! MWAH!"
lol it's a great time to be an Orre fan with these amazing videos
Finally another person who appreciates mirror b. Like I do and thank you for talking about mirakle b. I didn’t know he existed now I can fight him
Cipher Leaders in this game actually use pokemon in random order. For example in your run Nascour used Gardevoir and Xatu first - in my run he used Blaziken and Walrein first.
I can't wait to see your Legends Arceus video. I've put in a 100+ hrs and currently perfecting the pokedex
This game proves that a limited pokedex is fine as long as the story makes it make sense
I loved this game as a kid. I’m sure I would enjoy it now. This and Pokémon Stadium are the ones I would request for a remake/remaster
One of my favorite games of all time. Wish it was ported to the Switch
Can I just say that is how you do a paid sponsorship!
I love skipping the sponsorship part of a video but you made it so entertaining and tied it into the content that I just had to watch it! Amazing 😁