I remember when HAWX 2 was close to the best thing we had in the air combat arcade sector. Back then, their main rival was Ace Combat Assault Horizon and it was possibly the worst thing to happen to the genre. Sure, in retrospect HAWX 2 is pretty poor, even worse than HAWX probably, but it had more aircraft and the game has a unique feel to it
Yeah! This was the first aviation game I ever owned aside from X-planes, and this really gave the bug for aviation, especially Oil City, the Tomcat mission, the F-35 mission and the AC-130 escort mission (I never played COD so this mission just melted my young brain) And I still love the soundtrack.
@@guts-141 does it though? Out of all the arcade flight games today, including the Ace Combat games and Project Wingman, I'd still rather play HAWX (1, which I went out of my way to find a physical copy recently for the nostalgia trip).... mostly because it's not a fucking z-list anime plot (story never interested me in these games, I skip to get to the flyng), more grounded in real world settings and planes, and the assistance off mode, despite what this guy says FOR HIM, is actually really fun to use, I used it constantly in air-to-air engagements for the sheer manoeuvrability it offers. I used to get manoeuvre kills in multiplayer pulling hard g's and stalling 20 feet above the ground before recovering, which was only possible in assistance off. He finds it nauseating, I don't, and it's the defining unique feature that sets the game apart from the rest of it's genre, with their canned animation backflips.... fuck that, I have full control over my plane at all time in HAWX and every manoeuvre is down to player skill.
I remember one of the things that bugged me about Hawx 2 is that it takes place after hawx 1 (obviously) but hawx one is in the year like 2025 (which make it look over the top futuristic that it's totally not gonna be) but you had the look that everything was a bit more advanced than it is now. Then you got hawx 2 and despite taking place in 2030 in a hyper advanced alternate reality it looks like it takes place in modern day. Even as a 14 year old it was jarring to me. Also I thought it was funny how it's called hawx when in more than half of the missions you don't even play as hawx.
Hawx Was the first arcade fighter I played and I loved it. But life went on and my mind drifted to other things... I'm actually shocked that there was a sequel...
Back when I was kid 1st Hawk is so good and I'm so glad that it has 2 and almost 10 year later after play Ace Combat 7 I remember this game but it nowhere to buy so I download it and bam like shit slap on my face I tried playing it to oil platform mission then drop it. And then move on to Ace Combat Zero instead.
I’ve watched your first analysis/review of the first one and I’ll say I was not expecting a video with less then 1k views covering a game I played when I was a child to be high quality but I guess you’re filled with surprises. Have you considered making more review/analysis type of videos? These are very entertaining and I would love to see more of this from you.
Thanks! ^^ I do plan on making more review/analysis types of videos, yep! Currently I have it planned so I upload both review/analysis type videos, and also any additional material of the games in question, like a walkthrough or simply general gameplay.
@@Spudtron98 speak for yourself, I always remembered more about Hawx than I did with any of the anime plot and characters in Ace Combat, of which I couldn't tell you a single name (and I played 7 recently too!)
LMAO. I might just actually try this sequel out of bile fascination, just so I can appreciate my time within Strangereal more. Or as the comparison video puts it: "EHEHE ubi murica plane go brrr" VS. "MUTAT VALDE RAZGRIZ" Also, I can tell the framerate for the sequel is crap too. HAWX 1 could easily reach a stable 60fps while HAWX 2 is chugging like hell from the footage. Goddamnit BAMCO, just release a remastered AC Zero on modern systems. You cowards.
Topic not related, but the plot involved in the game is the same as in Ghost Recon: Future Solder and Ghost Recon: Shadow Wars…but the Future Solder one took longer to develop, so small details (Character Names and locations for example) got changed, and it *shows.* As for Shadow Wars, it’s apparently in a transition period-the two Russian Presidential candidates have the same name and design but the General is completely different (Older man, receding hair, no mustache), and there’s an additional conspirator in an Older Russian who wants to have his Noble Titles returned, and doesn’t like the Ultranationalist’s War Crimes. For the record, in Future Solder, the political head of the coup gets run over by a train following HQ saying “not to lay a hand on him.” Or something like that.
I played this and the original Hawx on my 360 years and years ago. Still have my copies of them. They're pretty decent games for what they are, but Ace Combat just did better. And this is coming from a kid who played Hawx long before I even heard of Ace Combat's existence as a franchise. Hawx did what it set out to do, be a fun plane combat came. Though, I prefer the first Hawx over the sequel for a couple reasons. 1. The general feel. Gameplay felt a lot more crisp when flying in the original vs this game, the planes felt a little more fun to fly for me. 2. The plane selection. Hawx 1's plane selection was literally "do whatever you want, just don't run out of ammo." You could fly the YF 12A Blackbird for every mission if you wanted for crying out loud. In Hawx 2, it felt like you were only allowed to fly 3 planes throughout the entire game. The carrier mission was especially picky about it, since you could only use carrier based aircraft for the mission. I get what the devs were going for, but it gets mind meltingly boring if only 3 aircraft are viable throughout the campaign. This isn't to say Hawx 2 was a terrible game, far from it, the devs were clearly trying to make a good Hawx sequel, but it just didn't quite make it looking back on it. I don't know what development was like for the game, but they did their best for what was released. Also, side note, the aileron rolling in Hawx in general is actually barrel rolling. Seriously, start rolling when you hold Y to focus on a target, you don't invert your plane like how you actually do irl, your plane slides sideways in a circle to an upside down position. Ace Combat 7's planes actually aileron roll when you do it, and when I see it in Hawx, it just makes me do a double take.
That's how I feel regarding the two games as well. I also vastly prefer the original HAWX, especially since the first game feels really smooth in comparison to the rough nature of HAWX 2. For the planes, it was interesting for me. With HAWX 2 introducing custom loadouts, it allowed for more freedom for the planes, but said plane selection depending on the mission was limited, especially with the carrier missions. Plus with the reduced amount of planes altogether, there wasn't really an incentive to pick anything other than the higher tier planes. For naval aircraft, if there were more of them, I feel like the problem would've been fixed. I've noticed that too, yeah! More of an barrel roll than an aileron roll
I have to correct you on one part, some missions did limit choice, as they want you to use specific weaponry which some aircraft never had. I remember at least 1 requiring freefall bombs early on that locks you out of planes that don't have.
Hey there OP. I am from the future as well. Just finished to play HAWX 2. Yeah this game is not good. But for me, my opinion is a tad different. I liked - the slower paced planes. At first anyway. For once I could use the chaingun to down these guys - the resupply, like being "free" to land and rearm, and regain health - the visuals, a bit more polished for the planes, and interior. Also more 3D buildings on the map I hated: - the fake difficulty, with time limits, low ammo (I play on expert) with too many tangos, these shit "defend" missions 5 fucking times in a row at the end of the game. COME ON - Not enough ammo but you can resupply... contradiction? yes and no, cuz most mission you cannot resupply without losing valuable time and then these guys you have to "defend" freaking die - "defend" missions with shit AI, like "LFG guys, lets headbutt this headquarter head on without waiting for air support... hey we are suddenly getting our asses ripped apart WHERE IS HUNTER". Fuck you. Wait. Don't move. Wait for me. - Shit AI allies, yeah they barely help - Shit loadout, you cannot chose the plane, cannot chose weapons. It's forced per mission - Cannot give orders. Just once in a mission where it's almost fucking scripted - Cannot turn on night vision when I want. Even in the mission where it's "allowed", you are allowed to turn it on once but not later. Dude it's still dark can't see shit, I need NV. And I need it then for other mission as well goddamnit - Cheating enemies which do sharp ass impossible turns without stalling. Also infinite flares apparently for these guys - Fake difficulty, again. I want to shoot these ground targets with regular J missiles. Dude we are the best fighter in the world, and I'm using HSM from the 90s, WTF, give me newer tech. And give me more than 6 ground missiles, there are 20 targets. Fuck you. - Did I mention that I can't resupply because these tiny tanks cannot stop moving forward to their imminent death? "HUNTER WHAT THE HELL YOU DOIN IM DYING HERE". Me with no ammo and only chaingun: "¯\_(ツ)_/¯" - Switching weapon is slooooooooooow. The UI is not responsive. - Bad russians. Bad middle east. Good americans. OK england. Oh, lets blow up South Africa for... no reason? Why not! - The cutscenes are lower quality than the ingame rendering. Nice. They rendered the scenes on a potato. - The uplay DRM. Oh. My. God. And I wondered why this game was not on Steam. Well it was... before being removed when uplay dieded. Not even did they patch their shit game so it can keep running on Steam. No, they simply removed their game! Wow. Business decision right there
The review is amazing. But i have one minor gripe, while hawx 2 may not be the best in terms of story, its gameplay was pretty solid for me. I loved the gameplay because of the off mode, if you brake while turning you can do some pretty cool stuffm the ai was pretty challenging for me too, but one thing hawx did amazingly was the progression and the ostn the progression was addictive, it was really cool to finally reach rank 50 and get all the cool late game planes (i was a bit sad because no superplane). Take my word for it, the progression is good. The ost too. It adds british music for the british campaign (if you beat the level fast enough it plays the british grenadiers. I was shocked) and the final level. Oh the final level, it felt a bit repetitive but it gave me chills down my spine everytime i play it, just listen to the song "last stand" and tell me thats not good, you cant. Good review but i think hawx 2 is better than you said
For a guy with less then 500 subs, and as small as someone could be. You have the quality of like, most larger Ace combat/Flight arcade games. Really hope that you get massive at some point, even if it will be a while. Just keep going man :)
The main problem is the story Middle East Russia fighting each other American good Omg we already see that thing in most modern war game why they can't place the game in fantasy world like Ace Combat Strangereal
Exactly! We've had this whole middle east something Russian Rebellion thing rehashed so many times to the point where it's cliched. Having a game like this set in a fantasy world, or in the real world but with things changed to allow the game to test the suspension of disbelief and to allow it to have fun would work great.
I found HAWX 1 much better than Hawx 2 for that reason. Altough progression sucked, at least HAWX was convincibly put in the Clancyverse (with the first mission actually you playing air support for a mission in Ghost Recon where you really called in air support from the ground) and the visuals and gameplay were nicer and smoother. HAWX 2 improved one thing and worsened 5.
Ah, gotcha. Can't blame you if that's all you have, gotta use what's available to you, right? Oh cool! How is the Wii version? It's such an obscure version of the game that I haven't been able to find much in the way of info or gameplay of it. I've only ever seen small snippets of gameplay or screenshots.
@@ThunderousFolf i know im 4 months late but from your reviews of the first and second games id say that the wii version is so much better, not because the gameplay is better its just more ridiculous (missiles can only hit you from a head on if you turn around they fly past you then pull a 180 to try to head on you again) but because it has an ace combat style plot with a satellite laser shooting super weapon that can be remotely controlled by a person in a single seat fighter jet. A story thats actually kind of interesting with a rogue mercenary turned hero type of deal. And uh well a lot of ridiculously funny gameplay mechanics like the missile evasion thing, the ability to shoot your gun anywhere on screen using your curser, autopilot is your really bad at flying, the ability to shoot enemy missiles down with you gun, and last but not least 4 player coop where player 1 flys and has his own gun and missiles and players 2 through 4 also have their own gun and missiles that can all be shot ... In 4 different directions simultaneously. Like i said ridiculous. But hey i think not taking the game seriously in gameplay makes up for the serious but more ridiculous story.
@@brandondaway1 so I wasn't the only one that knew that game existed and played it! I commnted about it too earlier today, but I noticed your comment just now. Good to know there actually are people aknowledging its existance. Also, Maj. Zeal and Firestorm used to be so cool when I was a child, I can relate with all of your experience, likely.
@@ThunderousFolfwhoops, I know it’s late but The Wii version actually gave you way cooler stuff, Not only is Off mode gone, but it felt more like Ace Combat, Like legit a few Space missions, 3 I think, and a somewhat cartoonish Gun usage, like, you treat the gun like your playing duck hunt P.S. I now have Ace Combat 7, and immediately got exited seeing the Nosferatu and SMTD back at least as a dlc, that and I love the Top Gun Maverick dlc
@@ThunderousFolf there's an uploaded playlist of the missions on youtube now (i think the first playlist that shows up has the second and third last missions swapped but otherwise it's fine). gameplay-wise it's more arcade-y than even AC but having played it I think the game works well to make that aspect more an advantage than a negative. Story-wise, it has farrrr more personality than the "main" HAWX games, though the smaller budget for the wii version is noticeable- most missions aren't as long or memorable as the usual in AC, the story moves faster than it should in some parts and drags in others, though I think that budget restriction turned into a positive with the way the between missions cutscenes are delivered through art drawings. But either way, the story is more operatic in the AC sense, and has a lot more personality than the main HAWX 2 version, and the fact I remember it now so many years later has to count for something :P
*Since you reviewed this one you have to review the Wii version of HAWX 2, which even has another story! Right?* no I'm serious, even if the story doesn't make sense (stood alone) and the graphics are shit, it's pretty fun to play and has a strong anime feel.
From the gameplay that I've seen, I'm actually pretty intrigued! It looks promising (I don't know how it actually is though since I haven't played it). The only issue is, I'd need to find myself a Wii and to find something to capture the footage lol. If I ever get the chance to cover the Wii version though, I will!
Ayy I still have my copy of the Wii version too! I played the ever loving freak out of it when I was a kid, I thought it was super cool. Looking back, it's graphics are total crap, but its story was actually kinda neat. Arrow was a cool guy, and the reveal about Major Zeal was a real mind blow.
I played this game years ago thought it was cool played it 1 year ago was underwhelmed thought maybe if I look into the lore a bit it would convince me to do a play through Retry? Yes or No 👈 Thanks for saving me time I’ll do a different game instead lol
@duncanmacleod7287 Right!! Its a shame Hawx2 could have been so much better I think they could make a comeback if they study what made the 1st game great
@duncanmacleod7287physics are just Fine as they are Unique and give you a feel of the plane, it no where near realistic but Just detailed enough, where as Hawx1 was just Floating aerodynamics
Can't disagree more. HAWX series compared to Ace Combat provides a much more realistic and challenging experience while still having its arcade nature. Something that you can't find on AC. And I think HAWX 2 was much better mostly on harder difficulties when you had to go back to base to refuel and rearm. I also enjoyed the Plan control on HAWM much more than AC.
Hm. I get that Internet personalities love to entertain people though sarcasm and irony. But it gets a bit weary after a while, especially when they're all mocking something that has been repeatedly mocked before. It never goes anywhere meaningful, does it.
Mah. Hawx2 is a Proper Improvement to Hawx1 simply by BETTER Rough Flight physics along with control Stalling and Being able to Land and Take off Plus just More to do Like GUNNING IN THE C-130
Im really glad i got this game it has a decent Fps feature the audio is nice the rumble to the jets make it feel like real life not has good a Brirds of steel done with the vibrations of the planes. but still a must have game for sim guys like me.
To be honest with you we are lucky to get any game like this or ace combat on console such as xbox or PlayStation these day any game like this I don't care it nice to have a game like this and not any more bloody f.p.s like cod one thing that this game does well you can have different missile and bomb mix on your fighter yes OK ace combat does, but only normal and sp weapons but hawks has more on hardpoints.
Several years past, now we have AC7、PW Project Wingman absolutely did an awesome job, even though this game has no cutscene HAWX2...Still a piece of sxxt
I love how just about every criticism can be applied to any Ace Combat title, cus it's not like we've never seen a super weapon or huge flying target before right?..... but hypocrisy thy name is ignorance. ;)
This was a pretty good game in my opinion it was awesome the planes choices were sick asf but I agree not best but I enjoyed because.the truth is that this shits happening right now in donbass around kiev and Kharkiev Which is pretty much all of Ukraine This. like i said war is only just around the corner and this stuff could actually happen think about it the game my not be good but Tom Clancy is all about real stuff .its could be a real thing theas days was not the best but I enjoyed it Because games like this train people for the real thing just without aisstance Anyway great vid keep it up cheers
@9:49 this section of the game was laughable. There must have been over 50 pipelines and train bridges throughout this valley, just so you would have something to fly into
I remember a time when i wanted to play this but never had the chance. Then i got distracted by the holy trinity in PS2 ... and forget it's existence at all. And speak volumes that people prefer to subject themselves to Assault Horizont than this one. Even if Project Ace literally went the same route with that one and didn't end well.
hawx 2 and assault horizon are both torture. if you want a game that actually manages to compete with ace combat and is on pc, play hawx 1 if you haven't. it's a shame that the survival mode in hawx 2 wasn't present in hawx 1 since the latter's combat is extremely satisfying and isn't slow paced like former
@@guardiadecivil6777 Actually i did play it Hawx 1, was the entire reason why i wanted to play the 2nd game. But then forgot it's existence once i bought a PS2 by myself to play the Holy Trinity of Ace Combat in PS2 and didn't regret it at all. I play AH but leave it TWICE. Then i learn the game sucked even more harder than AH, so i didn't subject myself to playing it at all. Now day if i wanted to play something diferent than AC, i had Project Wingman for it.
H.a.w.x 1 & 2 on PC? Ubisoft never repaired bugs where it repaired on console version (Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3). I know because... I have versions PC. H.a.w.x 1? Permanent black monitor and fight with Ctrl+Alt+Del & L. Alt+Tab or logout account on Windows/reset computer. H.a.w.x 2? Problem with file *.tmp of game if I end sometimes Action in game and Ctrl+Alt+Del & L. Alt+Tab. PS. I already skip empty servers in the last year's of support. I am sorry of my English. EDIT. Tom Clancy's was a writer who believed strongly in the USA. Hence the plot strongly propaganda for USA and "silent" hero-patriots.
i played this game to the end and at the end of the final mission i stand and I vomited i was dizzy of all the planes making circles around me after that i don't play this trash any more and i don't play any UBISOFT games ever
it's more like COD 4. russian ultranationalist, russians that works with the west to defeat said ultranationalist that has nukes, british people and of course, AC-130 missions (although somehow, COD 4's one AC 130 mission is more superior)
@@tonyrun5802 Gameplay wise, I would go for PW, especially for multi weapon carry, and I like its implementation of PSM better than AC7. And the conquest mode by itself is worth the price which is underappreciated in my opinion.
Hawx had 4 player campaign co-op though. Almost no flying games have that.
I'm pretty sure no one did. Ace Combat Zero had a similar thing, but not 4 players co-op campaign mode
Crazily enough, Ace Combat Joint Assault has co-op campaign. A psp game.
**LAUGHS IN ACE COMBAT JOINT ASSAULT**
People: So do you want to copy CoD4 or Ace Combat?
Ubi: YES.
This comment got a good laugh out of me. Very well said!
Ace of Duty
@@iicustodianlaw Even before Assault Horizont came you, and people said: NO! to Project Ace.
I remember when HAWX 2 was close to the best thing we had in the air combat arcade sector. Back then, their main rival was Ace Combat Assault Horizon and it was possibly the worst thing to happen to the genre. Sure, in retrospect HAWX 2 is pretty poor, even worse than HAWX probably, but it had more aircraft and the game has a unique feel to it
Yeah! This was the first aviation game I ever owned aside from X-planes, and this really gave the bug for aviation, especially Oil City, the Tomcat mission, the F-35 mission and the AC-130 escort mission (I never played COD so this mission just melted my young brain) And I still love the soundtrack.
Assault Horizon was cool because we got to fly the Apache and the AC-130 Spooky
Well at least Ace Combat 7 whoop ass
@@guts-141 does it though? Out of all the arcade flight games today, including the Ace Combat games and Project Wingman, I'd still rather play HAWX (1, which I went out of my way to find a physical copy recently for the nostalgia trip).... mostly because it's not a fucking z-list anime plot (story never interested me in these games, I skip to get to the flyng), more grounded in real world settings and planes, and the assistance off mode, despite what this guy says FOR HIM, is actually really fun to use, I used it constantly in air-to-air engagements for the sheer manoeuvrability it offers. I used to get manoeuvre kills in multiplayer pulling hard g's and stalling 20 feet above the ground before recovering, which was only possible in assistance off. He finds it nauseating, I don't, and it's the defining unique feature that sets the game apart from the rest of it's genre, with their canned animation backflips.... fuck that, I have full control over my plane at all time in HAWX and every manoeuvre is down to player skill.
This is just Cod 4 Air Force edition, love the commentary
It pretty much is XD
Thanks! Glad you liked it!
I remember one of the things that bugged me about Hawx 2 is that it takes place after hawx 1 (obviously) but hawx one is in the year like 2025 (which make it look over the top futuristic that it's totally not gonna be) but you had the look that everything was a bit more advanced than it is now. Then you got hawx 2 and despite taking place in 2030 in a hyper advanced alternate reality it looks like it takes place in modern day. Even as a 14 year old it was jarring to me. Also I thought it was funny how it's called hawx when in more than half of the missions you don't even play as hawx.
Hawx Was the first arcade fighter I played and I loved it. But life went on and my mind drifted to other things... I'm actually shocked that there was a sequel...
Back when I was kid 1st Hawk is so good and I'm so glad that it has 2 and almost 10 year later after play Ace Combat 7 I remember this game but it nowhere to buy so I download it and bam like shit slap on my face I tried playing it to oil platform mission then drop it. And then move on to Ace Combat Zero instead.
I’ve watched your first analysis/review of the first one and I’ll say I was not expecting a video with less then 1k views covering a game I played when I was a child to be high quality but I guess you’re filled with surprises.
Have you considered making more review/analysis type of videos? These are very entertaining and I would love to see more of this from you.
Thanks! ^^
I do plan on making more review/analysis types of videos, yep! Currently I have it planned so I upload both review/analysis type videos, and also any additional material of the games in question, like a walkthrough or simply general gameplay.
Basically Assault Horizon without DFM
Basically, yeah!
And without the personality. At least I can actually remember Assault Horizon's plot and characters.
@@Spudtron98 speak for yourself, I always remembered more about Hawx than I did with any of the anime plot and characters in Ace Combat, of which I couldn't tell you a single name (and I played 7 recently too!)
LMAO. I might just actually try this sequel out of bile fascination, just so I can appreciate my time within Strangereal more. Or as the comparison video puts it: "EHEHE ubi murica plane go brrr" VS. "MUTAT VALDE RAZGRIZ"
Also, I can tell the framerate for the sequel is crap too. HAWX 1 could easily reach a stable 60fps while HAWX 2 is chugging like hell from the footage.
Goddamnit BAMCO, just release a remastered AC Zero on modern systems. You cowards.
Topic not related, but the plot involved in the game is the same as in Ghost Recon: Future Solder and Ghost Recon: Shadow Wars…but the Future Solder one took longer to develop, so small details (Character Names and locations for example) got changed, and it *shows.* As for Shadow Wars, it’s apparently in a transition period-the two Russian Presidential candidates have the same name and design but the General is completely different (Older man, receding hair, no mustache), and there’s an additional conspirator in an Older Russian who wants to have his Noble Titles returned, and doesn’t like the Ultranationalist’s War Crimes.
For the record, in Future Solder, the political head of the coup gets run over by a train following HQ saying “not to lay a hand on him.” Or something like that.
I played this and the original Hawx on my 360 years and years ago. Still have my copies of them. They're pretty decent games for what they are, but Ace Combat just did better. And this is coming from a kid who played Hawx long before I even heard of Ace Combat's existence as a franchise. Hawx did what it set out to do, be a fun plane combat came. Though, I prefer the first Hawx over the sequel for a couple reasons. 1. The general feel. Gameplay felt a lot more crisp when flying in the original vs this game, the planes felt a little more fun to fly for me. 2. The plane selection. Hawx 1's plane selection was literally "do whatever you want, just don't run out of ammo." You could fly the YF 12A Blackbird for every mission if you wanted for crying out loud. In Hawx 2, it felt like you were only allowed to fly 3 planes throughout the entire game. The carrier mission was especially picky about it, since you could only use carrier based aircraft for the mission. I get what the devs were going for, but it gets mind meltingly boring if only 3 aircraft are viable throughout the campaign.
This isn't to say Hawx 2 was a terrible game, far from it, the devs were clearly trying to make a good Hawx sequel, but it just didn't quite make it looking back on it. I don't know what development was like for the game, but they did their best for what was released. Also, side note, the aileron rolling in Hawx in general is actually barrel rolling. Seriously, start rolling when you hold Y to focus on a target, you don't invert your plane like how you actually do irl, your plane slides sideways in a circle to an upside down position. Ace Combat 7's planes actually aileron roll when you do it, and when I see it in Hawx, it just makes me do a double take.
That's how I feel regarding the two games as well. I also vastly prefer the original HAWX, especially since the first game feels really smooth in comparison to the rough nature of HAWX 2. For the planes, it was interesting for me. With HAWX 2 introducing custom loadouts, it allowed for more freedom for the planes, but said plane selection depending on the mission was limited, especially with the carrier missions. Plus with the reduced amount of planes altogether, there wasn't really an incentive to pick anything other than the higher tier planes. For naval aircraft, if there were more of them, I feel like the problem would've been fixed.
I've noticed that too, yeah! More of an barrel roll than an aileron roll
I have to correct you on one part, some missions did limit choice, as they want you to use specific weaponry which some aircraft never had. I remember at least 1 requiring freefall bombs early on that locks you out of planes that don't have.
This review is as good as the last one, great vid
Glad you enjoyed it!
9:59 Congrats on summarising the Falklands War for the Fleet Air arm
Hey there OP. I am from the future as well. Just finished to play HAWX 2.
Yeah this game is not good.
But for me, my opinion is a tad different.
I liked
- the slower paced planes. At first anyway. For once I could use the chaingun to down these guys
- the resupply, like being "free" to land and rearm, and regain health
- the visuals, a bit more polished for the planes, and interior. Also more 3D buildings on the map
I hated:
- the fake difficulty, with time limits, low ammo (I play on expert) with too many tangos, these shit "defend" missions 5 fucking times in a row at the end of the game. COME ON
- Not enough ammo but you can resupply... contradiction? yes and no, cuz most mission you cannot resupply without losing valuable time and then these guys you have to "defend" freaking die
- "defend" missions with shit AI, like "LFG guys, lets headbutt this headquarter head on without waiting for air support... hey we are suddenly getting our asses ripped apart WHERE IS HUNTER". Fuck you. Wait. Don't move. Wait for me.
- Shit AI allies, yeah they barely help
- Shit loadout, you cannot chose the plane, cannot chose weapons. It's forced per mission
- Cannot give orders. Just once in a mission where it's almost fucking scripted
- Cannot turn on night vision when I want. Even in the mission where it's "allowed", you are allowed to turn it on once but not later. Dude it's still dark can't see shit, I need NV. And I need it then for other mission as well goddamnit
- Cheating enemies which do sharp ass impossible turns without stalling. Also infinite flares apparently for these guys
- Fake difficulty, again. I want to shoot these ground targets with regular J missiles. Dude we are the best fighter in the world, and I'm using HSM from the 90s, WTF, give me newer tech. And give me more than 6 ground missiles, there are 20 targets. Fuck you.
- Did I mention that I can't resupply because these tiny tanks cannot stop moving forward to their imminent death? "HUNTER WHAT THE HELL YOU DOIN IM DYING HERE". Me with no ammo and only chaingun: "¯\_(ツ)_/¯"
- Switching weapon is slooooooooooow. The UI is not responsive.
- Bad russians. Bad middle east. Good americans. OK england. Oh, lets blow up South Africa for... no reason? Why not!
- The cutscenes are lower quality than the ingame rendering. Nice. They rendered the scenes on a potato.
- The uplay DRM. Oh. My. God. And I wondered why this game was not on Steam. Well it was... before being removed when uplay dieded. Not even did they patch their shit game so it can keep running on Steam. No, they simply removed their game! Wow. Business decision right there
thanks for explaining...im cancel to reinstall it 👍🏻
Lmao I genuinely thought this was oboeshoes' second channel. Regardless, loved the vid man.
The review is amazing. But i have one minor gripe, while hawx 2 may not be the best in terms of story, its gameplay was pretty solid for me. I loved the gameplay because of the off mode, if you brake while turning you can do some pretty cool stuffm the ai was pretty challenging for me too, but one thing hawx did amazingly was the progression and the ostn the progression was addictive, it was really cool to finally reach rank 50 and get all the cool late game planes (i was a bit sad because no superplane). Take my word for it, the progression is good. The ost too. It adds british music for the british campaign (if you beat the level fast enough it plays the british grenadiers. I was shocked) and the final level. Oh the final level, it felt a bit repetitive but it gave me chills down my spine everytime i play it, just listen to the song "last stand" and tell me thats not good, you cant. Good review but i think hawx 2 is better than you said
Is it just me or does he sound like a walmart version of Obeshoes
He does
For a guy with less then 500 subs, and as small as someone could be. You have the quality of like, most larger Ace combat/Flight arcade games.
Really hope that you get massive at some point, even if it will be a while. Just keep going man :)
This game is so bad, the piracy scene didn't even make a crack for it for years
The main problem is the story
Middle East
Russia fighting each other
American good
Omg we already see that thing in most modern war game why they can't place the game in fantasy world like Ace Combat Strangereal
Exactly! We've had this whole middle east something Russian Rebellion thing rehashed so many times to the point where it's cliched. Having a game like this set in a fantasy world, or in the real world but with things changed to allow the game to test the suspension of disbelief and to allow it to have fun would work great.
I found HAWX 1 much better than Hawx 2 for that reason. Altough progression sucked, at least HAWX was convincibly put in the Clancyverse (with the first mission actually you playing air support for a mission in Ghost Recon where you really called in air support from the ground) and the visuals and gameplay were nicer and smoother.
HAWX 2 improved one thing and worsened 5.
Yeah, I'm sorry but the graphics are actually quite a bit better than the ones in HAWX 1.
soooo many years so many years and I never knew that the wii version of HAWX 2 wqs actually different
Well... ur not wrong but hawx 1 and 2 is all I have
P.s. I have the wii version of Hawx 2 also
Ah, gotcha. Can't blame you if that's all you have, gotta use what's available to you, right?
Oh cool! How is the Wii version? It's such an obscure version of the game that I haven't been able to find much in the way of info or gameplay of it. I've only ever seen small snippets of gameplay or screenshots.
@@ThunderousFolf i know im 4 months late but from your reviews of the first and second games id say that the wii version is so much better, not because the gameplay is better its just more ridiculous (missiles can only hit you from a head on if you turn around they fly past you then pull a 180 to try to head on you again) but because it has an ace combat style plot with a satellite laser shooting super weapon that can be remotely controlled by a person in a single seat fighter jet. A story thats actually kind of interesting with a rogue mercenary turned hero type of deal. And uh well a lot of ridiculously funny gameplay mechanics like the missile evasion thing, the ability to shoot your gun anywhere on screen using your curser, autopilot is your really bad at flying, the ability to shoot enemy missiles down with you gun, and last but not least 4 player coop where player 1 flys and has his own gun and missiles and players 2 through 4 also have their own gun and missiles that can all be shot ... In 4 different directions simultaneously. Like i said ridiculous. But hey i think not taking the game seriously in gameplay makes up for the serious but more ridiculous story.
@@brandondaway1 so I wasn't the only one that knew that game existed and played it! I commnted about it too earlier today, but I noticed your comment just now. Good to know there actually are people aknowledging its existance.
Also, Maj. Zeal and Firestorm used to be so cool when I was a child, I can relate with all of your experience, likely.
@@ThunderousFolfwhoops, I know it’s late but The Wii version actually gave you way cooler stuff, Not only is Off mode gone, but it felt more like Ace Combat, Like legit a few Space missions, 3 I think, and a somewhat cartoonish Gun usage, like, you treat the gun like your playing duck hunt
P.S. I now have Ace Combat 7, and immediately got exited seeing the Nosferatu and SMTD back at least as a dlc, that and I love the Top Gun Maverick dlc
@@ThunderousFolf there's an uploaded playlist of the missions on youtube now (i think the first playlist that shows up has the second and third last missions swapped but otherwise it's fine). gameplay-wise it's more arcade-y than even AC but having played it I think the game works well to make that aspect more an advantage than a negative. Story-wise, it has farrrr more personality than the "main" HAWX games, though the smaller budget for the wii version is noticeable- most missions aren't as long or memorable as the usual in AC, the story moves faster than it should in some parts and drags in others, though I think that budget restriction turned into a positive with the way the between missions cutscenes are delivered through art drawings. But either way, the story is more operatic in the AC sense, and has a lot more personality than the main HAWX 2 version, and the fact I remember it now so many years later has to count for something :P
Good to have you back mate
Good to be back!
Ah yes nostalgia
Hmmm yes-
The freaking dialog talking about the story was hilarious as hell
The first Hawx running at 60 fps in cosoles, but Hawx 2 is at 30 fps, whay they do that? 🤦
I dont care about what anyone says, HAWX 2 holds a special place in my heart as the first arcade flight game I ever played.
*Since you reviewed this one you have to review the Wii version of HAWX 2, which even has another story! Right?*
no I'm serious, even if the story doesn't make sense (stood alone) and the graphics are shit, it's pretty fun to play and has a strong anime feel.
From the gameplay that I've seen, I'm actually pretty intrigued! It looks promising (I don't know how it actually is though since I haven't played it). The only issue is, I'd need to find myself a Wii and to find something to capture the footage lol.
If I ever get the chance to cover the Wii version though, I will!
@@ThunderousFolf oh, nice! Didn't think you'd even notice me, thanks!
@@tonyrun5802 Sure thing!
Ayy I still have my copy of the Wii version too! I played the ever loving freak out of it when I was a kid, I thought it was super cool. Looking back, it's graphics are total crap, but its story was actually kinda neat. Arrow was a cool guy, and the reveal about Major Zeal was a real mind blow.
I played this game years ago thought it was cool
played it 1 year ago was underwhelmed thought maybe if I look into the lore a bit it would convince me to do a play through
Retry? Yes or No 👈
Thanks for saving me time I’ll do a different game instead lol
@duncanmacleod7287 Right!! Its a shame Hawx2 could have been so much better I think they could make a comeback if they study what made the 1st game great
@duncanmacleod7287physics are just Fine as they are Unique and give you a feel of the plane, it no where near realistic but Just detailed enough, where as Hawx1 was just Floating aerodynamics
This game is a fucking classic mate
I was listening to this while half asleep at 1 in the morning and completely agree with every point he made.
So basically they’re no AC7 xD
Pretty much XD
Can't disagree more. HAWX series compared to Ace Combat provides a much more realistic and challenging experience while still having its arcade nature. Something that you can't find on AC. And I think HAWX 2 was much better mostly on harder difficulties when you had to go back to base to refuel and rearm. I also enjoyed the Plan control on HAWM much more than AC.
so.for you personally which is better hawx 1/2? thanks
1 is cool and 2 too, but i like more 2.
Hm. I get that Internet personalities love to entertain people though sarcasm and irony. But it gets a bit weary after a while, especially when they're all mocking something that has been repeatedly mocked before. It never goes anywhere meaningful, does it.
HAWX 2 was a great game
Your review inspired me to make an in-depth and highly contemplative video on the HAWX vs AC topic: ruclips.net/video/SGZJnLYvio0/видео.html
Ayyy, nice!
The accuracy in that video is spot on, I love it
Mah. Hawx2 is a Proper Improvement to Hawx1 simply by BETTER Rough Flight physics along with control Stalling and Being able to Land and Take off Plus just More to do Like GUNNING IN THE C-130
Im really glad i got this game it has a decent Fps feature the audio is nice the rumble to the jets make it feel like real life not has good a Brirds of steel done with the vibrations of the planes. but still a must have game for sim guys like me.
I dropped HAWX 2 when they forced me into an F15 for a ground support mission.
To be honest with you we are lucky to get any game like this or ace combat on console such as xbox or PlayStation these day any game like this I don't care it nice to have a game like this and not any more bloody f.p.s like cod one thing that this game does well you can have different missile and bomb mix on your fighter yes OK ace combat does, but only normal and sp weapons but hawks has more on hardpoints.
So hawx 2 is like ace combat assault horizon?
In some ways, yeah. Though one thing HAWX 2 does have over Assault Horizon is that it doesn't have DFM in it lol
@@ThunderousFolf oh yeah
I knew I wasn't tripping when I thought that everything was a downgrade.
Several years past, now we have AC7、PW
Project Wingman absolutely did an awesome job, even though this game has no cutscene
HAWX2...Still a piece of sxxt
@Tier 3 infiltrator Still HAWX1, not 2
I love how just about every criticism can be applied to any Ace Combat title, cus it's not like we've never seen a super weapon or huge flying target before right?..... but hypocrisy thy name is ignorance. ;)
Hawx 2 with personality is Hawx 2 for the Wii, the best version of Hawx 2.
It feels like they tried to take some elements from Ace Combat with this one, which is theoretically a good idea... but they completely sucked at it.
This was a pretty good game in my opinion it was awesome the planes choices were sick asf but I agree not best but I enjoyed because.the truth is that this shits happening right now in donbass around kiev and Kharkiev
Which is pretty much all of Ukraine
This. like i said war is only just around the corner and this stuff could actually happen think about it the game my not be good but Tom Clancy is all about real stuff .its could be a real thing theas days
was not the best but I enjoyed it
Because games like this train people for the real thing just without aisstance
Anyway great vid keep it up cheers
@9:49 this section of the game was laughable. There must have been over 50 pipelines and train bridges throughout this valley, just so you would have something to fly into
Even though the story is crap it is at least understandable the more you play though out the game
This review went boom!
I completely forgot that I played this game, it was just that forgettable
This is an affront use of Tom Clancy's name.
I remember a time when i wanted to play this but never had the chance. Then i got distracted by the holy trinity in PS2 ... and forget it's existence at all.
And speak volumes that people prefer to subject themselves to Assault Horizont than this one. Even if Project Ace literally went the same route with that one and didn't end well.
hawx 2 and assault horizon are both torture. if you want a game that actually manages to compete with ace combat and is on pc, play hawx 1 if you haven't. it's a shame that the survival mode in hawx 2 wasn't present in hawx 1 since the latter's combat is extremely satisfying and isn't slow paced like former
@@guardiadecivil6777 Actually i did play it Hawx 1, was the entire reason why i wanted to play the 2nd game. But then forgot it's existence once i bought a PS2 by myself to play the Holy Trinity of Ace Combat in PS2 and didn't regret it at all. I play AH but leave it TWICE. Then i learn the game sucked even more harder than AH, so i didn't subject myself to playing it at all.
Now day if i wanted to play something diferent than AC, i had Project Wingman for it.
H.a.w.x 1 & 2 on PC? Ubisoft never repaired bugs where it repaired on console version (Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3). I know because... I have versions PC.
H.a.w.x 1? Permanent black monitor and fight with Ctrl+Alt+Del & L. Alt+Tab or logout account on Windows/reset computer.
H.a.w.x 2? Problem with file *.tmp of game if I end sometimes Action in game and Ctrl+Alt+Del & L. Alt+Tab.
PS. I already skip empty servers in the last year's of support.
I am sorry of my English.
EDIT. Tom Clancy's was a writer who believed strongly in the USA. Hence the plot strongly propaganda for USA and "silent" hero-patriots.
This was a Very Legit air combat game now Ace combat only appeals to the dumb masses :/
i played this game to the end and at the end of the final mission i stand and I vomited i was dizzy of all the planes making circles around me after that i don't play this trash any more and i don't play any UBISOFT games ever
Yeah, this game is so awesome, that the review has half of time from HAWX 1 video, LOL.
Literally is a MW2 air combat version
it's more like COD 4. russian ultranationalist, russians that works with the west to defeat said ultranationalist that has nukes, british people and of course, AC-130 missions (although somehow, COD 4's one AC 130 mission is more superior)
@@guardiadecivil6777 yes, you have a point
At least there's Project wingman now.
Ace Combat 7: am I a joke to you?
Jk, PW is fucking awesome, if only I got a decent PC I'd play it for hours dude.
@@tonyrun5802 Gameplay wise, I would go for PW, especially for multi weapon carry, and I like its implementation of PSM better than AC7.
And the conquest mode by itself is worth the price which is underappreciated in my opinion.
@@By-s agreed
HAWX 2 is just....
plane garbage
Hawx 2 was terrible! 🤣
I do not think... I like this game.
@@mateusfield1872 Yes, you not think.