Do You Know The DIFFERENCE Between Israel and Ukraine?
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- Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2023
- There are those that seem to think that America giving aid to Ukraine is the same things as us giving aid to Israel. However, this is very much not the case.
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Ben is the biggest hypocrite on internet.
1. Haifa Massacre 1937 2. Jerusalem Massacre 1937 3. Haifa Massacre 1938 4. Balad al-Sheikh Massacre 1939 5. Haifa Massacre 1939 6. Haifa Massacre 1947 7. Abbasiya Massacre 1947 8. Al-Khisas Massacre 1947 9. Bab al-Amud Massacre 1947 10. Jerusalem Massacre 1947 11. Sheikh Bureik Massacre 1947 12. Jaffa Massacre 1948 13. Khan Yunis Massacre 1956 14. Jerusalem Massacre 1967 15. Sabra and Shatila Massacre 1982 16. Al-Aqsa Massacre 1990 17. Ibrahimi Mosque Massacre 1994 18. Jenin Refugee Camp April 2002 19. Gaza Massacre 2008-09 20. Gaza Massacre 2012 21. Gaza Massacre 2014 22. Gaza Massacre 2018-19 23. Gaza Massacre 2021 24. Gaza Genocide 2023 is still ongoing.
Are you trying to convince us or yourself?!
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Yes, the difference is you Ben are personally invested in Israel but not in Ukraine.
himself. He dont want to see that Israel is fkin evil
More KGB here
@@ivanvoronov3871 Ben was very invested in Ukraine until his real homeland was attacked. Gentiles always come second.
Israel don't have to push through kilometers of minefields, Israel have air power, Gaza doesn't have endless stockpiles of armor and artillery, Gaza have no air power, Gaza doesn't have a huge population of man power to mobilize. Ukraine have been given the weapons to stop russia, which they have done, but not the supply of weapons and air power needed to wipe or push them out completely. US ground forces wouldn't be able to push out the russians without it's overwhelming air power.
Yes exactly Gaza is filled with unarmoured civilians! ISRAEL IS GENOCIDAL APARTHIDE STATE THAT SEEKS TO KILL ALL MUSLIMS! DOWN WITH THE COLONIALST STATE OF ISRAEL!!
USA has been giving Israel billions every year for a while though.
One of the main reasons why US/NATO doesn't give ukraine it's aircraft is because russian military has a high focus on anti-air systems, it would be just shot down on daily basis and that would ruin the reputation of NATO and it's supposedly "overwhelming air power" because it can only overwhelm countries with weak armies. In other words, it's bad for PR.
@@FliesKey Ukraines air force have been operating very well throughout this war, even with very limited numbers of aircraft. Russian ground air defense systems have been destroyed in large numbers and have not destroyed what Ukraine have.
Western aircraft will use anti-radiation missiles, radar jamming and other counter measures to protect themselves. Ukraines air force will plan their sorties through the gaps in russias patchy ground defense systems.
F-16's will be able to target russian air power with long and medium range air to air missiles, which will make ground offensives easier and possible.
@@FliesKey Ukraines airforce is in operation since the start of the war. They can't attack Moscow or Russian tank manufacturers in siberia but they can use glide bombs 50km from the front lines with much bigger war heads than artillerie or HIMARS.
That's the most hypocritical thing I've ever heard. Shame on you, Ben.
Pure double standards.
They are entirely different. Ukraine was never supposed to join NATO, it should remain a buffer. Israel just wants to exist.
He owns a house in Israel but not in Ukraine. That’s the difference 🤷🏽♀️
For someone whose catchphrase is "facts don't care about your feelings", he is really being led on by his feelings here.
snake. He does exactly what he accuses his enemies of doing
He's literally spewing facts. If you think he's being emotional you're the one emotional.
Which is why the entire video was fact-based. You've just decided on your position from the onset so you don't want to hear any logical argument to the contrary.
@@MrCamaleon7he IS being emotional. And btw - there’s nothing inherently wrong with being emotional especially with a political issue like this. Ben is against funding the war in Ukraine but seemingly is ok with funding for Israel’s war regardless of the amount of money it’ll cost the US.
@@MrCamaleon7 Ben has been breaking down since October 7, he has no balls nor can he make his wife wet, his own words. LOL
No. You reward Putin, and he will take more. If we had given more support earlier with F16's and modern battle tanks, there would be a path to reclaiming Crimea. We need to honor our prior treaty to provide security to Ukraine in exchange for their surrender of nuclear weapons. Or, the world will not trust any treaties the US wants to enter. Yes, NATO needs to do far more, but we should not be cowardly or renege our treaty obligations. Of course Hamas is not Russia. Why conflate the 2 situations?
are you implying that hamas wouldn't do that
@@IstandwithIsrael236 no, just that they are a different threat than Putin.
Ben Shapiro: yes, there's a huge difference, I have a vested interest in one of them and I don't in the other.
One is his true home where he can flee to if things get hot in America (where he resides but only leeches off of) and the other is... Who cares lol.
Bingo
Well, it's an achievement. Someone with iQ minus million can type. Congratulations, Hamashimpimp
He's got this backwards. Israel's ability to crush Hamas is a reason not to support them. They don't need it. Ukraine's inability to make progress means our aid is not sufficient.
Seems like
If Hamas is a "small easy terrorist group" then why does Israel need help from the USA ?
This is the most pathetic foreign policy I have heard from Ben.
He only cares because it is his tribe.
@@ChickenPermissionOG He's always been a hypocrite
You must be new here, he was cheerleading our 9 trillion Iraq+Afghanistan war that resulted in nothing
@@ChickenPermissionOGthe tribe members only care about other tribe members
Ben Shapiro cares about Israel way more than the U.S.. he’s probably a Mossad agent
I’m Jewish Canadian. Although Israel has a large military capable of destroying HAMAS. Ukraine DEPENDS on western aid just to keep Russia in Crimea and the Donbass. It’s not like they’re just staying there.
Early in the war there was a peace deal that could have been made, but the US and UK talked Ukraine out of it. Peace between Ukraine and Russia is priority, not dragging on the war.
Why do Jews want us to fight wars for them?
the money us give to Israel is symbolic its not really that much but it to show support so iran and hezbollah don't join
@@GhostTapeNo.9 Canada just made another deal yesterday for millions. But our Liberal Govt. under Trudeau won’t even pay the 2% GDP on defence that’s required to be a part of NATO. If it were up to the majority of Canadians we would.
@@IstandwithIsrael236 I’m sure if the two aircraft carriers didn’t prevent hezbollah from joining; a few million in aid and small arms won’t make them pull out.
But but but, when it’s for the Jews it’s different! 😂😂😂
You should really just watch the video and actually try and rebut the evidence and facts he brings to the table, insults don't in any prove the other person wrong...
"Battle lines in UA aren't moving, so let's instead spend money on a conflict that hasn't changed in centuries."
Great logic.
I didn't think of it that way 🤭
how did this get 43 likes? bots. israel doesn't get US WELFARE MONEY.
CONSERVATIVE Media continues to suck on Ukraine; while LIBERAL media continues to suck on Israel. sheesh!
The only reason the conflict isn`t moving it`s because of europe ... that Oslo agreement F up everything
The war only started on the 7th of October...
The real difference is that Ben is totally biased in favour of Israel and cannot look at the situation in a mature way
Possibly, but as someone who works in the defense sector, what geopolitical interests does arming Ukraine benefit US interests, outside of costing Russian billions?
@@michaelestala9214nether gets any money
I think Ben is right !
@@michaelestala9214 gaining a long term strategic ally with insane engineering capacity way over their pop level.
@@PhilipCripe not really a “strategic” position, we have several allies just as close if not closer to mainland Russia, who are more powerful Ukraine, Ala Poland.
Ben, why don't you join the IDF?
The only difference between Ukraine and Israel is that the power balance is not the same. Israel's army was backed by west for decades while Ukraine's only for a few years. Both, however, are at war with an absolute evil that can only be killed by completely uprooting it.
Utter BS.
Ukraine is like Basque Country in Spain:
a separatist region from Russia.
even though I agree with you regarding the evil I don't think you can understand the total impossibility of winning against the Russian army.
@@el_killorcureI guess a country being internationally recognised for years and having an own government isnt enough for it to not count as a rebellion.
@@michaeljancuch4204 Depends on who you ask.
Ask China about Taiwan and let me know how that goes...
@@el_killorcure? No wtf
All this hand ringing for the Jews of Israel.
Why are you here, Nazi?
Israel has an estimated 200-400 nuclear warheads. Ukraine has 0. That's biggest and most important difference.
yeah but israel can't really use it's nukes coz it's so small. if they use their nukes they are already finished
It's not about them using them, no one wants to use nuclear weapons, the point is the deterrent - which Ukraine doesn't have@@shamicentertainment1262
@@shamicentertainment1262 The only reason Iran hasn't gotten directly involved is because of Israel nuclear power, they are only able to fund their proxy's. Ukraine doesn't have that luxury.
@@saulwest8254you're right, Ukraine used to have world's 3rd largest nuclear arsenal, until we gave it up for a promise of peace and protection by USA, EU, and... russia.
Rookie mistake, we were a new optimistic country and wanted to show peaceful intentions. But it serves as a great example why you can never trust russia in any deal or treaty.
Yeah Ben contradicted himself he said “Israel can feasibly win because Hamas have almost no power” yeah okay if that’s the case then why do we need to send them any more aid if they can feasibly win and they already have a F ton of military supplies?
This comparison is so unbelievably short sighted. Ukraine is a country that broke away from the communist soviet union. It is a country that has tried, and continues to try, to maintain freedom from Russia - A country which has led an insurgency since the early 2000s - which boiled over when Crimea was annexed in 2014. Ben sounds a lot like President Wilson in this and we saw how that ended up, literally suggesting appeasing Russia (Putin) by seceding land, Ukrainian land (A bit like suggesting that if Mexico tried to retake Texas, we should just give it to them because it’s cheaper) or (giving Argentina the falklands because they were invaded). Particularly, as mentioned in the video, the Billions of US dollars sent to support the country. Ukraine and Israel are the same, but Ukraine is facing a particularly egregious threat as it is so difficult to maintain that gain from Russia - whereas Israel and the IDF are very capable of defending and defeating Hamas. These wars should not be made into political talking points, especially by republicans who ought to know better.
Ukraine is also firmly in the Russian sphere of influence. 35 years ago Ukraine was part of a Russian-lead union. A more accurate comparison would be if Texas broke away from the United States in 1991 and the American president wanted it back. It's a complicated issue where both sides have a point.
Situation in Ukraine is not that stable, Russia is pushing a lot lately. Situation in Avdiivka gets worse each day. And that place is a fortress. Russia is basically winning, got another big chunk of Ukraine, paid bigger price than for Crimea, but still. Russia has ramped up its military production, expecting Ukraine to push back or even keep up is optimistic to say it mildly.
West were too cautious at the start with weapon aid. First winter allowed Russians to dig in and the front line has not moved since then much. That's all she wrote.
Err .. population of eastern ukraine voted for independance and then to rejoin russia by 90%+. As did crimea. Try some basic research
Wow, Russian propaganda works fast. Guess pay is good at Russian bot farms.
@@_unknown_guy It's literally true though. Knowing how much our own government lies you should learn to be a little more skeptical.
Its fun watching ben Shapiro lose his mind
Say what you want about Ben, but he's very loyal to his people above everything else.
Yeah especially him desperately propagandising so we support Israel (hes now become feelings the destroyer of facts Lol)
@@thestreetwalker4842it should be pretty fucking easy to support israel
@@catholicpog7183 like Candice Owens?
I remain steadfast in my belief that the war in Ukraine is far more important than the Israeli conflict.
@@GhostTapeNo.9 Defense and foreign policy is within the legitimate scope of the state.
Definitely. Isreal can handle itself
Neither wars are important. Ukraine is irrelevant to the average american.
@@danieln6700 yes but the if the us doesn't give the 14b (which btw is not really that much in the grand scheme of things) or leave the Gerald Ford by Israel Iran would start shi t
Ukraine unequivocally rejects the notion of ceding its land to Russia-such a proposal is inconceivable. Imagine suggesting the handover of Texas to Mexico under similar circumstances, where a conflict halts, and the call for peace talks arises. It's an improbable scenario; nations hold their territories dear. Speaking on behalf of another nation from a distance, untouched by the repercussions, oversimplifies the complexities involved.
That's too bad for them then.
Ben has a bias to say that there is a difference between Israel and Ukraine. If Israel has a right to defends itself wouldn’t that same logic apply to Russia with respect to Ukraine
If only biden secured our own borders, both Southern and Northern (explosion on CA/USA border this a.m.), then I would not feel that Ukraine is asking something of U.S.A. that U.S.A. is not even doing for Americans. Alas they are. We've more than met any obligation based on a memo that bill clinton signed already. Maybe they should manage the help they received better, although biden is partly to blame for their attitude due to his blank check/as long as it takes messaging.
@@chrisbarron379 did you dullard actually watch the video? Ben clearly states he supports Ukraine and their fight to reclaim their land from russia.
he said that their war effort shouldn't be supported anymore because the current stalemate and ukraine's inability to push forward just means all the aide money to ukraine is being wasted.
@@yosefyonin6824so we should only give weapon supplies to the wars that our proxies are going to win? Then what the fuck is the point of giving them money if they are going to win anyways? Gaza is being reduced to rubble and you want to give them MORE weapons?
The difference is that Ben is Jewish and not Ukrainian or Christian. I've always liked Ben's content but he's being huge hypocrite and this video shows just how much copium he's taking. You can't defeat Hamas either, it's an idea, belief, religion.
Yup. All Jews are. None are ready to put America first but love reaping the benefits of being American. Case in point = Ben. He should be deported!
Look at you coping with the fact hamas is being destroyed.
The determination of how far the Ukrainians can push the Russians is unknown as it was a very poor decision by the US and its allies to drip-supply weapons to UA and then to expect them to forward press using NATO tactics WITHOUT any appreciable amount of air power. That was stupid on its face. Let them act with a full compliment of combined forces including air and long range artillery in 2024 and then ask the question of UA capability.
I wonder if Conservative media even knows about the delay in weapons to Ukriane?
This is exactly what I wanted to say
Yeah, there wasn't any decent weapon shipments in the first 6 months at all. Then some bits and pieces like 777 or armored vehicles, while russian were using sea, air, ground and cyber 24/7.
Had countries started f16 training 2 years ago, gave HIMARS at the onset, and provided harpoon, ATACMS, and Strom shadow within first 12 months - this would be a totally different situation.
Instead, it seems that most countries treat war in Ukraine as some sort of simulator. Like, how much can we achieve with 50 people and 1 rocket? Or maybe 30 people and 2 tanks.
Agree, not only is it just a tiny fraction of possible US military aid, but it came so late when Russians mined every square foot in between.
@@MetalblowingRussia had like 200k troops at the start in all Ukraine and like 20k group under Kiev. And that's against more than half million army of ukrainian force (now is mroe than million). Only in autumn Russia understood that they have not enough forces and they started quick mobilization of additional 300k people. Also Ukranian arsenal was 2nd biggest after russia among all Soviet countries.
It's not like Russia fighting some small weak country. Ukraine literally biggest country of Europe with the biggest army in Europe. And funded by whole west which is also crucial because more than half of ukrainian budget consists of debts which means Ukraine wouldn't be able to function as a state (thus continuing the war) without foreign financial aid.
I see it in a completely different way. Israel is wealthy and strong enough. They don't need US monetary freebies. The Ukraine has indisputable popular international support and benefits far more from monetary and social policy assistance.
Does not have support from populations or from global South. Most normal people dont support nazis
"The" Ukraine? It's UKRAINE.
the us isn't giving that much to either in the grand scheme of thing (you can look yourself) it is symbolic especially with Israel so that hezbollah and pla and the other terrorist and Iran don't join in
Israel has an incredibly powerful and effective military. Even if you support Israel, why should we arm them? It’s not like they need our help.
Or do they?🤔
Israel doesn’t need anything from the US except financial and diplomatic support. Financially supply the iron dome and other defense systems, and diplomatic to make sure the UN doesn’t Fck Israel. Every single fcking year at least 15 times they discuss issues with Israel on how they are the bad guys and stuff.
Well great army like fighter jets and tanks still needs ammo because the ammo run out eventually
They have a great AF and certain groups are really effective.....but overall they got exposed the last time they went into Lebanon and Hezbollah gave them everything they could handle....a lot of their "reserves" are not highly skilled combat troops....more like National Guard.....they are not what they were back in the 70's or before....just living off a reputation.
yes i know 14b seem like alot to me and you average people but in the grand scheme of thing its not alot its symbolic so iran and hezbollah don't join in
All Ben does is call for America to fight Israel's wars.
109 countries weren’t as wrong as we thought.
Thats not exactly just israels war you got to remember that Iran want the death of America as its endgoal
No thanks they can defend themself
Ben: Ceasefire between Hamas&Israel is unacceptable b/c Hamas will take advantage of a ceasefire to commit more violence in the future
Also Ben: We should pressure Ukraine into a ceasefire even though Russia will do the same thing again. I’m totally not biased
you gotta learn what the context is
@@marcsee4072 plz elaborate
@@Heisenberg69691 what is the context of Ukraine conflict and what is the context of Israel conflict?
@@marcsee4072 if you don't even know yourself, then stop speaking shit.
@@marcsee4072 U said that I gotta learn what the context is, I’ve u asked to elaborate.
I disagree that the war in Ukraine is a stalemate! Why, because Russia is losing thousands of soldiers and 100's of AFVs every week. Your argument would have meant the Allies in W2 would have negotiated a truce with NAZI Germany in 1941? We are all too used to watching War movies where the war is over in less than 2 hours. There can be no negotiation with Russia until their army is degraded so they cannot keep waging bloody wars around the world. Remember there have already been a number of agreements by Russia in the Donbas and Crimea, they were worth nothing!
Both deserve support. It's hypocritical of you to say one deserves support but the other doesn't.
@@GhostTapeNo.9 The US acts in its own interests. It is in the worlds best interests that Israel and Ukraine win over terror and Russia.
What I see regarding Ukraine is that the world is only supplying just enough to NOT be overrun by Russia. It isn't that the front isn't moving at all - Ukraine needs more in order to make more progress.
Feel free to sign up.
I hear they have run out of convicts and tweakers to draft (even the insane asylums have been tapped).
So give more yourself and stay out of my tax budget. Who is helping AMERICANS?
@@A.C.Lawrence Not Zelensky nor Bibi...
@@A.C.Lawrence As more countries fall to Russia (and China, and ...) the more you will want/need of your tax budget to prevent it, for you and your country's self-interest. It's cheaper to spend the money now.
Of course, there are many other ways to reduce taxes and the size of government that will benefit everyone.
@@A.C.Lawrence Look at our budget, the number one and two continue to be social programs which have miserably failed and are full of fraud and abuse! The foreign aid is a fraction of a percent of our number 3 budget, defense spending, and it's far cheaper than trading blood.
Ukraine didn't commit their assault units to the offensive because Russia is dug in - and it wasn't working... No western military would go on the assault without air superiority. Aid for Ukraine is vital.
ukraine stands no chance in winning against russia a country of 150million. if people cared for ukraine they would of pushed for negotiations ASAP ie 2 years ago. but the west couldnt care less about ukraine. we are using ukraines men to weaken russia (outsourcing your military labor) and now that most people oppose more funding for ukraine (55-60% of americans) ukraine will be forced to negotiate in a much weaker state than 2 years ago as 20% of ukraine is controlled by russia.
@@Allen-bd5uu Ukraine wanted to negotiate... They told Putin though if he Annexed the 4 territories according to Russian constitution there would be no peace talks... So there aren't.
@@John-hy6vu you also have to take into consideration that those territories were being shelled by ukraine since 2014. they are mostly russian speak territories. I, in no shape or form am writing this in support of putin, he is a tyrant who has cause tremedous hurt to both russian people (corruption/war), ukrainian peope (war) and the entire world order. but i respectfully disagree with the narative that ukraine is the "good" guy while russia is the "bad" guy. both are corrupt countries in my humble opinion. but with regards to the territories you mentioned (donbas, donetsk etc) ukraine has been shelling those territories since july of 2014. it is kind of a paradox you have to admit, of wanting to keep a territory that you have been shelling/bombing since 2014.
with regards to negotiations, my understand is that ukraine wanted to negotiate, so did russia (talks started in turkey 1.5 years ago) but boris johnson PM uk at the time, discouraged it on behalf of nato. as the goal of nato was never ukraines best interest. but rather using ukraine to weaken russia.
@@Allen-bd5uu ask Chechen and Georgia how peace talks go with Russia. They will just re-arm and go back to it.
And it doesn't matter how large the Russian population is, if you can't arm the army and the Russian military will start heavily running out of Soviet stock 2025. To abandon Ukraine before then is very sad to me. They can win.
As for attacking small portions of those regions - and Ukraine doesn't target civilians. They were dealing with separatists so it's not ironic at all.
Your basically spreading Russian propaganda whether you realise it or not.
Ben, Candace is right about your analysis on Ukraine, you need to realize this instead of doubling down...
Go listen to Candace?
Trust me , Ben only loves Ukraine bse Zelensky is Jewish. That's all.
Wow Ben what a hypocrite you are.
You're all the same people.
Your paper trail proves it.
Which people are you referring to?
@@justinevert1504 "Jews " Ukrainians, Russian, German.
Yeah, bots and trolls
Well I'm Irish so neither country is relevant to me or to what i do in my every day life
Probably not worth leaving a comment then?
Wait until the absurd connection our world has these days kicks in and suddenly people are being called into WW3 and the economy crashes
I'm an American and same here.
Absolutely
Really, you don't think we are next?
War pig
Ben Shapiro, please interview president Zelenskiy or general Zaluzshnyi they will update you in the recent situation on the front line in Ukraine 💛💙🇮🇱🙏
Yes there is a difference: Israel can easily afford any war without anywhere near existential problems. The amount and pace of military ops are not at all affected by outside funding.
I hope Israel continues to get aid, but it doesn't really need much.
Ukraine on the other hand needs lots of aid for survival. The outside funding also determines how many Ukrainians end up being casualties. Ukraine is even now slowly advancing, and as long as aid continues (hopefully increases) they will win in the end.
🤦♂️ no there is no difference. They are both things that the US should not be funneling billions of dollars into.
@@herbiehusker1889 Why not?
Ukraine: it's the DUTY of US to finance them since the US caused the war to start. The US has an obligation to help them defeat russia.
Israel: It's a lot more complicated than you think. 1st of all the sums are really small in relation to US budget. Second of all probably most of it comes back to the US when they buy from the US, and it even expands R&D in Israel which greatly benefits the US. Thirdly it's benefits the US to have a very cooperative Israel in that part of the world.
@@pistonburner6448
US caused war to start?
@@pistonburner6448 No. The US didn't start that war, Russia and Ukraine did. I hope Ukraine succeeds, but they probably won't. The whole place is a money laundering facility.
@@herbiehusker1889 I think if the U.S. were to focus on itself more, then we'd develop into a prosperous country having to eventually challenge Russia again.
As a Russian, who supports both Israel and Ukraine, this is a very strange point from Ben. Israel has enough money and military power to wipe out Hamas without any aid of USA. Ukraine does not. And yet you say YES to aid to Israel (where they dont REALLY need) and NAY to Ukraine, which very existence depends on it. Very controversial, have to disagree with you on this one.
Banderistan is only being exploited as a NATO proxy….the longer the conflict continues, the greater the magnitude of the defeat for Banderistan
Massively agree here. Even if Ukraine can’t reclaim everything from their occupied territories I think supporting them to the point where Russia would be forced to the negotiating table. Even if say Russia gets Crimea but Ukraine takes back Donbass and as a way for peace deal Ukraine is forced to give Crimea to Russia and at least then they keep everything else I think thays reasonable and by supportiny Ukraine even if not possible for them to take everything they can at least take more so then when negotiating they can be able to demand more from Russia even if its “you keep Crimea but leave everything else alone”
Also even when this war is over, definitely Nato has to be on the cards for Ukraine I think Nato is imperative for any peace deal and also I hate “Build the wall” stuff I hate the Maga build a wall on the southern border but you know what in this case, Build the Wall in Ukraine border because I mean we have to at this point. If the war ends and Ukraine wants to build some sort of wall in their border I would 100 per cent support providing the funding for that they definitely need a giant wall haha. I just hope that wall would be missile proof but yeah build some sort of mechanism 100 per cent
The differences is that Ukraine would have been better off to commit to negotiations early which would‘ve meant: No NATO membership with Donbas and Crimea under Russian control, but a Ukraine with its infrastructure and population in tact; now, Putin still has everything he wants and the country will have been devastated, the majority of Ukranian men sacrificed. For what? For a pipe dream that results in big no-bid contracts for Raytheon and Blackrock, and strategic advantages for the US. That’s the difference.
He owns a house in Israel but not in Ukraine. It’s as simple as that 🤷🏽♀️
I am from Israel, am half russian due to my family and stand with ukraine. Ukraine was given sovereign independence like the 16 other soviet republics. Russia started the war by bombing cities. They also bombed hospitals. Ukraine should definitely have the right to govern itself.
The difference is that Benny Boy has skin in the game with Israel
America first!
"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what your country can do for Israel" - Ben Shapiro
Lol.
facts
Spot on
Reminds me of a short, angry little man named Zelenksy
@@BrandonTBlackwellboth lunatics.
NO NATO army would attack positions without air support, without adequate demining equipment, without the ability to cut off russian supplies. Ukrainians did that. But you are complaining that "oh they can't push" why is that? They don't have the EQUIPMENT NEEDED.
You are naive or a bad actor if you do not realise that.
@@GhostTapeNo.9 If Ukraine falls ALL of ukaainian men will be conscripted and the ruzzians wil attack Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania.. AKA NATO. Then it will become the american's and everyone's problem. And, instead of fighting a 80 milion people country, you would need to fight a 120 milion people country.
Not to mention, that those countries are so small that they would fall before america can even move troops in the region.
@@GhostTapeNo.9 Oh and the american aid, is in OLD equipment and munitions that would have been discarded anyway, you can't build a road with an old tank, you cant give a missile to a homless guy and say "there you go, eat".
No difference. We shouldn't fund either one.
Exactly
Well, a hustler said so, it must be so.
@anna-tn8mg reading comprehension isn't your strongest suit is it?
@@herbiehusker1889 r u a bot brain ... there's no rules in in the RUclips faketrix matrix...get a grip!
Great idea, let anti-western world powers just take what they want so they can strengthen their position against us even more!
The major difference for me is just that the US and Israel are allies, simple as that. There's no point in calling a country our ally if we aren't going to help them when they need it. You can argue we shouldn't be allies if you want, you can argue for isolationism, or at least more isolation, those are fair arguments, but as of now, Israel is our ally, period. The only time it's acceptable to leave an ally hanging is in extreme circumstances like WW2, when pretty much the entire world condemned what Germany and other axis nations were doing. Nobody would think harshly of severing ties with Germany in 1940. That is not the case with Israel right now.
Wouldn’t an ally be someone who could send ships and aid to us if our coasts were attacked or we had natural disasters like in Ohio or Hawaii this last year? Which Israel can’t and hasn’t done. I empathize with what has happened with the terrorist attacks but it’s not our job to send them any of our tax dollars. We send them billions every year already money that I would like back in my pocket. Which we should have stopped sending back in 1967 after Israel killed 34 US Sailor’s in The USS Liberty Attack. If we want to send them armaments if they pay for it with there own taxes great but we need our own money at home first. Americans are the biggest slaves in the world with us sending any money to any foreign countries while we have enormous debts to pay with money that doesn’t exist. It’s not ‘isolationist’ to take care of ourselves first it’s our obligation. As a single man there are many American families worse off then me that are struggling paying there own bills. We have our own borders to secure first. Israel and Ukraine are the same in that we shouldn’t send any aid. If people want to send there own money or go enlist with IDF you are free to do so.
@@GhostTapeNo.9you do benefit from their alliance in many different ways. For example, Israel provides multiple economic opportunities for the the US which does trickle down to you as an American citizen. Israel is also the reason that Iran doesn’t have nukes, which is pretty neat. Israel’s topography can be useful for US training if they ever needed to operate in that region, and Israel’s constant conflicts mean that they can develop new military technology and test US technology, which leads to a safer US.
@@GhostTapeNo.9 One sided relationship? *You mean sending the monsters who chant "Death to America" $160 BILLION?*
Israel hasn't apologized for attacking the USS Liberty
@@sarko5989 The US would have a very different relationship with the Arab/Islamic world if not for our government's unconditional support for Israel. Iran wouldn't even be an adversary (and certainly not a nuclear adversary) if our policy was more even-handed towards the different regional interests.
Ben Shapiro, It's true that these wars are somewhat different, but to start with, the Hamas attack had a lot of support from the Russians and Iran because Russia needs a smoke screen so that people don't see that they will lose their ground on Ukrainian soil, and the only reason the Ukrainian army isn't making a breakthrough is because they don't have new, modernized, or capable equipment like the Israel army, which can turn the Gaza Strip into glass, as you say, but the Ukrainians can't. How do you say this justifies a stop on support for Ukraine? You just seem to be making a CTRL + C, CTRL + V of the Republican talk. Just because the Democrats are sided with the Ukrainians automatically, the Republicans have to be on the Russian side. That's dumb. We should go after good ideas and actions, not play politics as if it were a football game. What I mean is that we should help them both (Israel and Ukraine), because that's the right thing to do. I'm going to explain why it is important that Israel and Ukraine win their wars in a comment within this one.
If Ukraine loses this war (what I mean by losing is not taking back their full territory, not the end of their country yet), peace world-wide will break because the Russian win will leave a clear message to the world that if you have a big army or have a product that is "needed" world-wide (for example, a lot of places depend on Brazilian food), you can invade any neighboring country that isn't part of NATO and they will do nothing because they didn't help Ukraine and they'll do it again (mistake of not helping a country that was invaded to regain their border and instead signing useless peace agreements that will only freezer the boarder in order to the invasive country to do back to attack after they rearm themselfs). Now about Israel, it's important that they win because Iran and a lot of terrorist groups want the end of Israel as a country first because Israel is closer to the west, which is their enemy cause again; Iran and Russia are on the same side; and the second reason is that they want the end of Israel because their religion is against Jews and other religions, so if Israel loses, not only is it the end of their country but a show of weakness from the west because Hamas is way worse in military capability than Israel.
Wise words from a wise man. Thank you, Sir!
The reason Ukraine isn't making any headway and has lost a lot of ground in the east especially is because Russia destroyed their army.....now they have the old man and woman army left......get your head out of your anus and look at the map.....who is surrounding their cities in the east? The Bear. Can't wait till the alphabet agencies remove Zelensky or his own people....the little dictator cancelled elections again and is purging military leaders......he probably shits his pants daily like Joe Biden.
Ukraine doesn’t kill innocent Palestinians last I checked.
Ben are you going to comment on Candace Owens interview with Victor Finklestein? I’m very interested in an official comment. Everyone is speculating about the tension. You don’t have to trash her but a video about why you disagree with comments would be appreciated
It's Norman Finkelstein. I can comment. Let this Jussie Smollett/Meghan Markle/AOC continue. In other words, let this demonic grifter grift.
Ben cares more about feelings than facts
You do realize that Finklestein is a Holocaust denier.
Ben.
It doesn't matter. Most of us are non-interventionists; that means we don't have to decide which side has the moral superiority, or which side has the best exit plan, or which side is more or less oppressed.
We just don't want to intervene in any war, so...
Leftist
Just wait till foreign power like China blocks the South China Sea and invades Taiwan. There goes 90% of our microprocessors that power our cutting edge technology.
And one day war will be at your doorstep and you will have wished for intervention abroad. Intervention is not a bad thing, it's only bad if it's done for wrong reasons.
@@wulfheort8021 War at our doorstep is a war they're losing.
@@MysticalArcaneafter they kill how many of us? I have no doubt that we can fend of a invading force but I would rather prevent that from happening in the first place.
Both sides have innocent people that are dying because of the government leaders. I pray for the innocent people on both sides
Thank you for saying this. I believe this as well. Kinda sucks that Ben doesn't believe that.
Go and hug your Hamas.
@@anna-tn8mg Hamas isn't America's problem.
@@catholicpog7183 Pig, it's actually is.
@@catholicpog7183not yet
I was right with you up until the 1:44 min. mark, when you oddly stated that a stalemate had been attained.
Have you not kept up with current events in Ukraine? Ukraine has been doing quite well against Russia as of late, though they would have done vastly better had the West delivered more robust in a more timely manner. I'm all for helping both Ukraine and Israel. I think the connection between Russia and Iran (and thus Hamas and Hezbollah) is indisputable. But I also note that Israel has a well-developed defense system that Ukraine lacks. Mind you, I'm all for adding to Israel's defense system, but I'm also not willing to toss Ukraine to the wayside, the way we tossed Afghanistan to the wayside.
Both Ukraine and Israel need to be defended.
Doing quite well??? What planet you on. Counter offensive total failure. Wasted billions dollars. Half million men in their graves. Dragging old men and women off streets. Retaken zero territory because people dont want them there. Jeez. Try scott ritter for some facts.
Rofl....yeah.....so great they now conscript women for the front as well as 60 yr olds......stop watching the BBC.
You and Ben should go defend them....put some skin in the game. Remember when they used to do all of those stories about foreign fighters for Ukraine......then they all left? Rofl.
@@cornpopsrazor5375 - In case you didn't get the message ... I hate to pop your balloon, short bus, but plenty of foreigners are still fighting in Ukraine.
After treatment at US military hospital, volunteers for Ukraine return to fight --
By Andrew Hay, Reuters, October 12, 2023
Put a number on it.....and plenty of stories were getting out even last year about mistreatment.....which is why people were bailing.....Ukraine is done ....put a fork in em......trust me....they are going to love living under Putin.....he is a benevolent master.....lmao.@@Timurlane100
Ben ur on point on most things but NOT when it comes to Russia. Bad takes all day
Same with his takes on Israel… Bad takes all day. Apparently we’ve abandoned “facts don’t care about your feelings,” and we operate strictly on emotions now… One this one topic any way.
@@cmount7655facts
Ignorant on russia. Been called out on it before. And supporting abd excusing genocide.... there are no words
That’s because this real loyalties lay with Israel. He doesn’t care what-so-ever for America.
@@lozah9036 what genocide?
I dont care about either!
One is invader and the other is invaded
Yeah the difference is I care more about the ppl of Ukraine..
Why?? What don't you get - the people of the east WANT TO BE PART OF RUSSIA. Care about ukranians? People like you sicken me. If you cared you would be lobbying war mongers to stop sending weapons and accept peace agreement that was on table 18 months ago. Instead you sent HALF A MILLION to their deaths. For what? Us hegemony.
This guy is a coward 😅
There is none. Saved you some time.
Ben shapiro is being ratio’d to death in the dislikes to likes💀💀💀
the difference is that Tate destroyed Ben in that Piers Morgan interview.
and Ben is still running away.
Only if you are Tate's fan
@@mariareitman6559 I'm not a tate fan, but I can see that.
It's real easy to discuss peace when Andrew Tate, personally, has not lost anything. Now, if a group of people take everything from Andrew Tate to include his family, followers, and all his things and yet he still calls for peace and restraint....Then, I will listen. Otherwise, he is still the entitled poser that he presents himself to be.
Why should Ben Shapiro waste time with someone who is a sex trafficker and a woman beater.
*In Yoda’s voice* No, no different. Only different in your mind.
I'm firmly opposed to this stance on Ukraine. We need to continue in Ukraine because they are one of the few cases where a country actually *wants* to be more western and is fighting tooth and nail to be so. If we can't support Ukraine then my feeling is we shouldn't support anyone. Ukraine is the "good fight". Afghanistan was a rat hole we poured far more money into and got nothing. Why? Because those people didn't really want what we were selling. Ukraine wants it, and are fighting with their lives to try to get it. The least we can do is support them in their effort. If we can't do that, then my support for Israel or literally anyone else goes to zero and I think we should just pull out of everywhere and send no money and no support anywhere and become utterly isolationist even to the point that the US doesn't do charity. I feel that this has become a Biden vs Republicans issue when it really should be a US issue.
Likewise, if you really think that Gaza is a simple matter I think history will prove you wrong. Gaza is only simple if Israel and the US and free world by proxy are willing to utterly defeat and occupy and re-educate Gazans to no longer have the hate filled ideologies that they have. This would require that kind of near universal support most likely for decades on the level of what happened to Germany and Japan after WWII in all respects. If you don't have that kind of long term support and goal then Gaza is going to always be there, always festering, and always requiring Isreal to be fighting back. I don't think we are anywhere near that level of commitment nor support from anyone, Israel included. So Gaza is, and will continue to be a huge ongoing problem as it has for decades. By comparison, Russia can't afford to continue to burn through equipment and people the way it has. While it is taking a while longer, a steady hand of support for Ukraine will almost certainly see the conflict resolved within 5 years. How long has that Gaza thing been festering? If you really think it won't still be festering in another 10 years, I think that is wishful thinking. I hope you are right, but I think it is wishful thinking.
The answer is because you have a house in Israel and not in Ukraine. Stop being hypocritical.
Support to both Israel and Ukraine! Thanks!
You support the enemies of the people of planet earth.
Way worse than being a Nazi 😅
How about neither you leech deekhead
No
Great
Use your money not mine
Taxpayer dollars should stay with the American people. You're free to donate to charities though if you feel strongly about Ukraine/Israel.
Nope. Neither should.
I think the error here is that Israel is capable of doing everything stated without any additional support from US. Where as Ukraine needs US support.
Ukraine is white Israel is not that's the difference
It is the Holy Land.
the difference is that you have blood loyalty to israel
"It's in a US interest to bleed the Russian army. There is no question about this".
Well, yes I have a question : why ? And an answer to that would have been more interesting than a short refusal to discuss. So here are 3 potential answers :
1. To keep the order books of the arms industry full
2. To cover The President's corruption during the pre war years
2-3. To avoid the Russians from invading Monaco after defeating Ukraine
Israel has ruined this mans career. He will never budge on the subject, which is sad really since I agreed with most of his points before.
Israel intel plays both sides of the isle in the USA. That is why politicians all seem like two wings of the same bird.
His feelings don't care about facts
Yeah , people of Ukraine don't consider themselves " the chosen people " , and beloved by God ....
I think a lot of people don't understand what chosen means. It has to do with being chosen to interpret their own texts and fulfill a personal destiny, but people seem to twist that to make it as if they are "chosen to oppress" others or that they are above others. I don't know any Jewish person who thinks that they are "better" than anyone. And regarding oppression, not a single Arab village or a square foot of Arab land was "taken" by Jewish people before the Arab-Israeli war. On the other hand, we can name quite a few the other way around. People also seem to think that the Nakba only happened to Arabs during the war.
Muslims consider themselves chosen people to interpret their own texts and to fulfill their destiny in their own relationship with god. Buddhists -- the same thing. And in Judeo-Christianity, when Christians say that about Jewish people, it means something different than what it refers to in Jewish religious texts.
Hope this helps.
@@weareone2854 The problem is that a lot of Christians here in America do think that about the Jews.
Russia isn't going to win the war in Ukraine? How do you know that. Crystal ball?
I am sorry one of our patient in the mental health hospital has run away, he suffers from delusions of grandeur.
there is literally 0 difference in justifying foreign aid to either Israel or Ukraine.
it is not that hard my man
Although I agree with Ben on many things, as a Ukrainian I think an argument can also be made that Ukraine wasn't provided (and still isn't) strong enough military aid like F-16s to move the front line and take back everything Russia took from us.
Why should we?
What has Ukraine done for the West lately exactly?
Besides obliterating Russian army, providing 10% of grain of the entire world, millions and billions in exports of steel and space technology to the US and countless others. Besides that. Ukraine doesn't provide anything.
None of this to say that the US can't do any of it without Ukraine. But to say that Ukraine is an entirely useless country is incredibly wrong as well.
@@el_killorcurenothing... ever.
Unfortunately Ukraine has been on the fence and it wasn’t till the invasion that they cared for the west. When Ukraine let Russia take Crimea and Donbas region it was always going to be hard to take back. Russia simply fortified their position.
Give Ukraine F 16s so we can enter WWIII ????! Russia already threatened that . Ukraine has had almost every male in their nation die !! This war must Stop ! You have tens of thousands of missing Ukrainian children . STOP FIGHTING AND GO GET YOUR CHILDREN !
Hey Ben, did you see the Haka the Mãoris from New Zealand performed in Israel's honour?! It was INCREDIBLE!!! A large group of Māoris also gathered here in Brisbane in support of Israel, right where a pro-hamAss rally was scheduled to be & they scared them off with the Haka 😂😂😂 It was beautiful ❤️❤️❤️
Among the natives in the US and Canada there are many who support Israel,. They know well who is the native there and are in solidarity.
Was Jake "The Muss" Heke there?
it was! a lot of us in Israel saw it and absolutely loved it
@@el_killorcure Temuera Morrison? Not sure: haven't heard from him in a little while.
@@anna-tn8mg Unfortunately at the moment, our Aboriginal communities are feeling very let down after the recent referendum (our Prime Minister is a bleeping useless c-word!).They had also started to heavily align themselves with the BLM movement during lockdown & now have similarly aligned themselves against Israel as the BLM has. I strongly believe tho that they are currently blinded by anger & I've hoped that they may listen to reason from other indigenous voices from around the world 🤞 Imagine how powerful the west would be if everyone put all this hate & anger aside & stood together in solidarity against terrorism... sigh.
Or hear me out... we spent the money on our people and not some country.
Whoa whoa whoa Ben was saying for ages Ukraine was doomed and now he's telling us nah Ukraine is good focus on his fav country. C'mon now.
Andrew Tate just called Shapiro an armchair warmonger.
and he is right
andrew titty is in house arrest for being a prostitution monger, his opion is completely worthless
Did this Hamasnik do this from prison?
Why are you here if you are Tate's?
Support for Ukraine is way, way more important than support for Israel, because 1. Russia is a more powerful enemy for the forces of good as Hamas and Islamic Jihad is, 2. If Russia gets defeated then its grip in the Middle East is gone, the mullahs and all terrorist groups supported by Persia lost strength as well as Hamas and 3. Israel is already the strongest in the middles east, they do not need military help, just propaganda support, but that’s it. They can conquer the whole Middle East on its own and no one could defeat them, not even turkey.
Yes 1- because they are christian
2-they have common ancestors(as white(as ehite race)
3- because they own the land, and russia who attacked them(not like izrl who occupied Palestinians land).
4-Russia has power and will to occupie some countries in Europ if they defeat Ukraine.
There are many other reasons, but those are main
The whole middle east? Dude what kind of weed you smoking? How the fuck 7 million jews can conquer 500 million people in the middle east wtf??!
Oh he realizes that we realize all this isn't in our best interest and at best he can only fund one war now and he wants his people to get the money this is hilarious to see your true face. Oh and our gov still haven't helped maui in any real way
The title should be "There's a DIFFERENCE Between Israel and Russia". Compares oranges to oranges...
Cut funding to both Ukraine and Israel. America has its own issues that we need to focus on
stop being anti semitic!
Absolutely
"And we do have an interest in things that happen outside our borders." I agree, but what American interests do we have in Israel? I hear people say, "America is next" but then why fight this weird proxy war when America could just show up with it's own military and finish the job herself? If it truly is a threat to America, then there should be no issue having the American military handle it.
Noone has or can threaten us. It is surrounded by ocean. Just an excuse for mic
@@lozah9036 Tell that to the victims of 911
@@leniterfortis4832that happened because it was an inside Job
@@leniterfortis4832The 9/11 could be prevented by other means. By more security. Otherwise I I didn’t see an air defence weapon preventing 9/11
Maybe with all the money you make from adverts you could go to Kyiv before making such judgements 🙏
There is always SOME difference.
But the war in Israel started precicely because the world didn't properly react to Ukraine War. Russia is doing atrocities since 2014, had the world put a stop to it back then, Iran would never dare to support an operation like this.
Russia also has an anti Israeli position for the latlst 200 years or so. You had pogroms during Tzarist russia, you had prosecutions during USSR, you have modern day piliticians meeting with hamas in Kremlin.
So, show russia its place and you will ensure that Israel has less problems dor decades to come. Stop supporting Ukraine and it means only 1 thing, that the West is not prepared to play thw long game and dictators can simply wait.
Iran and Russia are not afraid of election, hunger, or financial issues. They can wait while the West eats itself.
P.s., by your logic, US should not give Israel a single penny. US funded Israel for the last 60 years and not only did the situation didn't change, it became worse after one of the most brutal intelligence mess ups in history.
why should I care about two countries far from America?
if Ben cares so much about those countries he should fight for them.
facts
He wants the silly white goy to do the fighting instead.
Wait, you don't want to fight a war & die for Israel?! That's just anti-semitic dude.
Well, for the same reason the people get good upbringing and education. To know good from evil, among other things. You obviously are not familiar with such concepts as "ALLIES"
@anna
You mean parasitic acquaintances? America first!
If we want to send Ukraine and Israel food, water, medical supplies that’s fine, but no weapons.
Ben when are you going to debate Vivek Ramaswamy. He'd walk circle around your moronic policies putting America last and other countries first
Ben you rightly base Israel's right to defend itself as justification for the war. Ukraine has that same right period. There is moral justification for the Israel war and Ukrainian war. Why are you avoiding the moral question? Is it morally right for Ukraine to defend itself?
I have a question for you Ben. I am kind of on the fence in this issue because I've done a lot of research on both sides and I was just wondering if you think the humanitarian issues going on in the Gaza Strip is a result of Hamas misuse of humanitarian aid money from countries such as Qatar or is it a result of the blockade. Thank you and very informative and interesting video as per usual.
you should watch previous Ben Shapiro videos, he provides lots of details how Hamas outright stole all the aide money and matiriale to fuel their terrorist war machine.
money was stolen and used to buy weapons and explosives from the black market
cement was stolen and used to dig tunnels
metal pipes were stolen, even after they were installed, to be used as base for rockets.
They get more aid per capita then any place om the world. They just use their funds to fund terror.
gaza has recieved billions of dollars in humanitarian help for food, medical etc. but it was used for terror tunnels and missiles. you ask yourself that again. Israel for the last 10 years has been giving gazans incubators for hospitals, MRI machines, machines that convert oxygen to water. Literally one of the only ways to getwater today for civilians are those generators. because hamas has stock of food and water for its terrorists for a couple of months. literally
I wrote it in harsh tone but Im just trying to inform some info. hope it helps
I'm only going to say this. A senior hamas official said in an interview that the tunnels in gaza purpose is to hide hamas terrorists, and the un is incharge of protecting the civilians. That how a governing body should treat its civilians??
If only we had masses of people calling for a ceasefire in Ukraine
There is none. They're both foreign wars that Americans should not have to suffer or die for. You're an idiot if think one war is more "just" than another.
Ben, facts don't care about your feelings.
True
Bro. His feelings are backed up by the facts
Ben has been super unhinged since October 7
@@Anthony_Jiangfr
@@Anthony_Jiangthe only facts are that israhell is a genocidal apartheid state.
No Ben. Never thought that you could be ignorant about the USA involvement with Ukraine.
He truly is. Worse not bothered to learn.
What do you expect from a warmonger.
Israel propaganda in 3..2..1..
The difference is your religious zealotry blinds you when it comes to Israel
There is no difference to me. Both of them receive way too much of our hard earned money and America should decouple from both.
They both have something in common too. We shouldnt send tax dollars or troops to either one.
Ding ding ding. We have a winner!
America first! The rest can figure it out on their own. Unfortunately Israel has its claws embedded deeeeep into literally everything in America though. We’re practically just a shell company for Israel at this point
😂😂😂 Your support for Terrorists like Hamas and Russia is really shameful. Just leave the comment section and do something useful other then support the evil forces of this planet.
Yeah let's not support our allies, really smart, Not
@allanzylbert1306 allies to me actually bring something to the table. If Isreal dissappear tomorrow it wouldn't effect the average American at all. If America disappeared so would Isreal. What's the point of that allies like that. We aren't God determining which countries are good or bad then putting our finger on the lever. That's how we get Libya
@@allanzylbert1306Allies??
What have they done for us Lately?
Oooh oohh oooohhhh yeah
The more you close the eyes of Palestinians, the more the world's eyes will open