Choosing Housewrap when using Exterior Rigid Foam
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- For more information visit risinger.blogspot.com. When you make the efficiency leap to exterior rigid foam there are some details you need to get right. One vital detail is proper waterproofing details. In this video I'll show you how to choose which house wrap to use with rigid exterior foam. I'll also put this assembly to the test to show how it drains! Matt Risinger - Risinger Homes Austin, TX
The dude leaning up against the pickup truck is the star of this video! #attitude
My first thought was that Chuck Norris was building this house.
@@kennybutcher6307 I noticed that too...lol...maybe Matt has the guys paycheck in his back pocket while filming this? "Cmon Matt...wrap it up..I gotta go!"
These are plastic battens nails to studs. The siding nails to studs too through the foam & battens. I use the exact same setup for cement board siding as you see in this video. Best, Matt
Hi Matt love the video and have a question. When the nails used for the battens and for the siding puncture the dupont cloth does that create a risk for leaking through the nails?
Matt looks so much better without the womb broom.
@Bill Hegerich: my recommendation would be Tyvek Drainwrap. This is a permeable product that will allow some drying to the outside. More importantly it will allow drainage between the foam and your sheathing. I don't use or recommend felt paper for walls. Best. Matt
I'd like to see a follow up to past builds. It would be interesting to see this one today, 11 yrs later and maybe see how the homeowners experience has been.😊
Great question, not sure I showed that on my video. I've been meaning to put a longer blog post on this install on my blog with multiple pictures. I'll have that up next week for you. risinger.blogspot.com Briefly, the Drainwrap goes first, then 1" Dow foam, then the starter coarse of rain screen is a horizontal 2" strip of corrugated plastic with the air channels running vertically. That's wrapped with a "U" shaped piece of bug screen. This allow free exit of water & air flow. Matt R
Thank you, Matt! I am going to use this advice and use the Tyvek. Keep up this great work! You reach so many of us.
you have a magical mustache 😂
Thanks buddy! Really appreciate your advice. Got the mic, but this was shot with the onboard camera mic. I'm not sure this would help much with sound, the windows typically are the weak link. That demo was super fun, have seen Joe Lstiburek do that and really wanted to try it myself. Amazing how that Drainwrap works! Matt Risinger
What part of the US are you? The NorthEast is probably the furthest ahead on trained contractors for this method. If you're not doing the work for a few years there is likely a guy in your town who is just now learning the methods and will be ready for you when it's time. Fine Homebuilding has been a great advocate of advancing this technique so lots more contractors will be jumping on board with these details. Ask around, or call your local HBA, they might know someone. Matt Risinger
Great details on a really beautiful house. A little different to what you work on today!
Wow,. Oldest video I've seen. You've come a long way baby! That mustache was a treat, lol
Hello Matt, I'm a big fan of your channel. I'm getting ready for a major house remodel. Quick question: Does airflow behind the insulation negate some of the benefits of the insulation? Thanks!
Drainage plane knowledge I got from Matt!! Thank u
Good demo. I've always wondered if the stucco-wrap type product actually maintained a drainage plane. You've convinced me.
Great Content! What’s underneath the Tyvek? Thank you in advance.
3:59 “hello clarice” that’s some spooky stalker stuff going on there!
"Commercial D" was my nickname at public rest stops back in the 80's.
Gorgeous siding and great job as usual!!
Matt. Would love to see you wrap a stucco house ridged insulation. I have learned so much from your channel.
The glorious mustache must make a comeback.
I agree
one of Matt's job site tools is a rechargeable shaving machine 😂
hey zack is just standing there ready for the bachelor party in vegas!
I'm in the Midwest (Iowa). I get to worry about the extreme hot and cold (and humidity).
Matt, I'm looking to reside my old house in the next couple of years. I've talked to a few siding contractors and they don't seem to have the knowledge about using rigid foam, housewrap, and a drainage channel. I wish I could hire you because I have yet to find a siding contractor here who's even willing to do a 2" rigid board.
I did not know they made that back in 1977.
How come you didn't tape the gaps on the foam board? I'm having siding done on my house now and the company That's doing the work is tapping the house wrap and the foam boards.
Love your channel. Also, with that mustache, do you have a second career perhaps?
Matt - Curious if you've used the Tyvek Fluid Applied WRB system and what your thoughts are on it. I've used Prosoco and like it, but am looking a other systems instead of mixing Prosoco with a different product line. In particular, we've got a project that is going to have inset windows and doors that I'd rather have a fluid applied system for instead of layering a SAM product or sheet good with. Would greatly appreciate any thoughts you have. Thanks
Some of these days the homeowners will think they got a demon when their walls start dripping red. Just kidding! Very informative video.
That's funny! Hopefully all the dye came out! Best, Matt
Nice video - helps alot. One question - get that the wrap under the foam has ridges that act as drain channel. The space between the top/outer layer of foam and the wood siding is not aerated and does not have its own layer of housewrap. So any water that gets in there could catch wood pockets and form mold. Odd that building codes don't catch that.
For wood siding you need to put lapping to create a rain screen. Vinyl siding is considered water permeable so it can dry to the outside.
Thank God you cut off that Mustache Matt!!!
Is there another house wrap under that for air barrier?
Is the bottom of this house wrap not taped then?
The only way I see this working is if there is a house wrap under it as well to allow it to breath while still sealing air.
Also, I tried to find thus product is it only available in Canada? Is looks like an amazing product.
Always great info Matt thank you! What model Marvin windows do you recommend? I'd like natural wood interior/maintenance free exterior. Thank you!
I wish you stained it Flood Cedar.. it would look badass and never peel.. But, yeah the paint looks great job by the boys!.
so glad you dropped the mustache.
Thanks Matt for the great video. If there is a tyvek drain layer behind the foam, how is the foam held against the wall? Don’t see how glue would work and I can’t see any fasteners. It’s not held by the battens because the wall in second scene doesn’t have any battens. Thanks for any info someone might have.
Are those battens on the top of the rigid foam made out of wood? PVC? I assume they are nailed or screwed to the studs behind the foam to give something for the siding to nail to.
I'm planning on using cement-board siding...should I perform the same setup on the walls as you have done here?
If water flows will the air not also waste the the exterior insulation?
What type of batton are you using for rainscreen ?
Did you tape the Foam ?
Hi Matt- I was curious. I am siding a house using cedar impressions by certainteed and will be applying fanfold styrofoam. Should I use house wrap (like tyvek, or typar). Or, should I use tar paper. I read that using tyvek and the fanfold could create a situation where the house will not be able to breathe properly. I appreciate your videos! Thank you,
Bill in New Jersey
The Canadian National Building Code requires an air gap behind the siding. Did you make the batten strips? There is a question about the position of air barrier behind the foam or in front. Great video.
Steve Nason the rain screen looks like a ready-made product. Check out Cor-a-vent. Not sure if that's what he used here or not, but I know they are a popular brand of rain screen materials.
Lol younger Matt with the creepy 'stache
My house was constructed like this: Framing, insulation, foam sheathing, house wrap.....then later OSB sheathing put up then new siding. My question is do you see a problem with the house wrap being under the OSB instead of over it and under the vinyl siding?
darksideoftheloom yes
Do I have to be a contractor to buy this?
Hi matt. love your videos. Quick question. If you were to use zip-system R-sheathing, how would you achieve this sort of drainage plain?
+Jon Myers good question. I'd use a product like Benjamin Obdyke Home Slicker
Would you change anything now?
Hi Matt, why not put your tyvek over top of the stryrofoam and rain screen system? Seems like a win win, what's you thoughts??
Is there any reason why the seams aren’t taped on the Dow rigid foam? I am interested in doing this technique with cement board siding and 1” rigid foam.
Thank you
The waterproofing is behind the foam. No need to tape the seams but you certainly can
Thank you, makes sense. What manufacture did you use for the 3/8” corrugated furring strips? They look similar to El Dorado battens.
To clarify the last sentence....Do you see a problem with the house wrap being under the OSB sheathing instead of between the OSB and Siding?
Your wood is going to rot like no tomorrow.
Yeah, that's very strange. The wrap is supposed to help protect the wood from moisture.
Can you use tar paper instead of Tyvek?
@Matt Risinger : I saw a Tyvek vs ZipR commercial at the beginning of this video. So I watched the entire thing. Tyvek hired 2 crews with experience in each system and had a house done 1/2 & 1/2 using both systems. Then I went to the Tyvek site and watched another video they made where they sprayed water on the side of each installed product. But if you look closely they taped the bottom of the window on the ZipR install. Then they made a big deal of how it leaked. Very bad form for Tyvek. Naughty, naughty Tyvek.
Have you seen this Matt? I know this is an old video but I'd like your opinion on what they did. I'd also like your opinion of each product and hopefully a solid recommendation for my new custom home I'm building in northern Utah.
I’ve seen that video. It’s pretty one-sided. Both are good systems if installed correctly. I like Zip because of the terrific air sealing it provides. Use my Zip 2.0 method to install and you’ll build a very good house.
@@buildshow : Thanks Matt. Exactly what I am thinking as well.
Hey, Matt-- I was curious as to why the drain wrap was installed behind the rigid foam. Wouldn't it make more sense to install it in front of the foam?
Both methods are acceptable, but my preference is to install foam on top of the drainwrap. I think it makes the window install more straightforward. If you install the foam first then you typically need to add a 1x buck to the outside of your windows. In this video I'm explaining my preferred method...
Matt Risinger Air being able to move behind your insulation makes no sense at all in my opinion, kinda defeats the object of thermal insulation.
It does seem that by creating redundancy in your rain screen that you have likely compromised the air seal. I worry about creating good air seal with house wrap rain screen as the same effect that allows water to move through prevents a good seal with the tape at the edges. Why were you not content with letting the foam board serve as your moisture barrier? Thanks for providing such a great resource.
Matt Risinger Do you have a video on window detail when using rigid foam over an exterior wall? Curious to see how install was done.
Nicpedia yeah he had a video on that. custom aluminum pieces around the window acted like extension jambs for the siding to die in to at the windows.
Matt, how it the siding going to dry to the rear when it's back primed? Seems to defeat the idea behind creating an air gap in order to "allow the siding to dry", as you mention.
sportscarclinic I think if the primer is acrylic, then it is permeable and since it is open on the back side (because of the rain screen) it can air out well.
Just think Fair question. I think to minimize water absorption into the wood and inhibit mold growth. Probably a little bit of overkill but doesn’t hurt. But more importantly, did you see the caterpillar on Matt’s upper lip on this video?
Bring back the stache!!!
Would you mind placing a call to my wife today? I could use some help convincing!
LBP
However man made product will last longer alot less maintenance and most of all not having to wipe out all the forests
Jackie Hughes you're a dumbass..
LMAO use only our overpriced products.....