Pushing 400 Film To 1600 | Leica M6 v Olympus OM2n
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- Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2018
- Examples of why you should push 400 speed film to 1600. And how does the Olympus OM2n perform in comparison to the Leica M6.
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Hey, thanks for sharing one of my videos, Paul! Appreciate that. Another solid video yourself! 👍🏻
My pleasure Matt, love what your doing. Take care mate!
Your channel is much deeper than 'just photography'. I think it’s more around the heart and soul of the art of photography and just last two videos transcended that by naturally involving the music. You never talk about f stops or review gear, it’s always about the story of the image, you dedicate entire videos to that story. You talk about the meaning behind the image rather than megapixels. Part of that is the subjects you introduce us to whether it’s a sailor, singer or a scrap yard. It’s all about you relaying their story through your images. That’s an important part of photography other channels don’t talk about. Please don’t ever change from that as for me that’s the essence of photography.
I’ll be honest I’m one of those people who very rarely pushes film, partly because I’m a Rodinal fan boy (I’m down with the young ones with my modern terminology). Also when I’m printing at 35mm I do like using my farmers reducer in the print lightening the whites and selenium to increase the dmax thus increasing the contrast that way. I think all these 'recipes' appeal to the chef in me, which was my trade for many years, but all this is just for me playing around in the darkroom. Another final concern is I really struggle shooting a full roll of film in a day and because of all my medications I’ll forget what I am doing the next time I use that camera. I always put the film box's end somewhere on the camera, often in the hot/cold shoe to remind me what film is in the camera, I suppose I could make a note there.
I use Delta 100 and my main 120 B&W film for landscapes, the next time I go out with my Bronica I might push that to 400. The next time I’m going out shooting landscapes I’ll be shooting digital as Im going with a RUclipsr (one who is a phenomenal photographer) so watch this space, you might get to see my mobility scooter.
I bought an Olympus OM10 with the shutter speed adapter, it had six Zuiko lenses with it and my intention was to keep the lenses and buy an OM1. However, because I like that OM10 so much with its little idiosyncrasies and adapter I’ve never bought the OM1 and the OM10 is my "colour" 35mm camera. My main 35mm camera is my very favourite camera ever, my Zorki 4K with its Jupiter 8 50mm f2 lens, that’s a rangefinder and it’s images are always spot on which isn’t bad for a 43 year old camera. I too really like the 50mm and I’ve no intention of buying another lens for that camera.
As always a brilliant video Paul, all yours are always special but in my opinion they’ve been extra special this week. When you were talking you were giving your camera a lot of credit, but most, if not all, that credit belongs to you and your phenomenal talent.
Thanks Mark, I just recently sold my Zorki 6 with the same lens, loved the camera but it wasn't getting used so I thought it best be with someone who would appreciate it. Let me know how you photo session goes with the youtuber, I'll look out for the Kart. Take care.
Paul C Smith Photographer I totally agree, they are made to be used. I will definitely let you know and a couple of others, you take care too.
Beautiful... I really need to get myself that f1.4 for my OM-2n
Another terrific video Paul, and I loved the pushed results you were getting, must have been a great experience to shoot such a talented guy in such an atmospheric location. The light was just gorgeous. Have shared the video on Twitter. Best wishes from Scotland!
Thankyou Steven, rally appreciate that.
Some good strong images, nice..x
Thanks for your time.
Great video Paul and beautiful images as well. I do love the aesthetic of film and it's nice to see talented photographers like yourself still shooting film in a digital world. Long live film.
Thankyou
Ex Leica M user and perennial OM user, love them both and love the images.
Outstanding mate. Excellent images. Love the sweet Leica.
Another awesome watch mate. Such atmosphere in those photos you should be quite rightly proud of them. Back in my film years I used to shoot rugby league and football for the local rag in the dead of dark dismal wet bone freezing brutal Yorkshire winters. I'd be given a 24 exp roll of Tmax 3200 had to to push it to asa 6400 to get 1/125th at F2.8 (if it was a good day, at times it was 1/60th) the grain was huge but I look back at those photos with a fondness, they are full of timeless atmosphere. As you're aware I'm currently reviewing a shoot I did with Tmax 400 and I gotta be honest I'm pretty excited with the results. They actually look like photographs. The contrast between light and dark is stunning with just the right amount of grain. Fingers X the vid should be ready on Tuesday, just awaiting the prints. I'm loving Simon's work mate such a talent. I wanna say a huge thanks for continuing to inspire me to give film another go. Christ I'm sounding like a soft southern wuss now (no offence to any soft southern wusses of course). Top vid mate keep em coming.
Hey Paul thanks so much mate, can't wait to see your TMAX video. I'm really loving TMAX I must try get some 3200. MOT dude!
Paul C Smith Photographer all good mate that 3200 pushed o 6400 back on the day I always thought was just too grainy but it these mega high ISO no noise digi days the old photos have an authenticity to them would be great to see a vid on the 3200 👍🏼
Once again, excellent video! Great Photos. Thanks so much. (I am running some T-MAX 3200 through my Olympus OM1 this week).
Good onya
i love pushing film! great little video as usual!
really enjoyed this, hope to see more and thanks for sharing all this super dope content with us
Thanks Acid
Great photographs & nice music :)
Discovering your video only now. I was always against pushing film and I always shot all my films at box speed until... now. What a GREAT video.! Thank you mate.
Thankyou
Wow,that was a trip down memory lane!Photographing gigs 40 years ago on Tri X pushed to 1600,55mm at F2 and preset1/60 on a trusty old Pentax S1-a.Fill the frame and print on grade 3-Punk never looked better!Things were so much simpler....
Always did fancy the Olympus but ended up going down Nikon way for film and have only recently gone digital with Fuji-at least they still look like camera's to this rock-banger.Thanks for another great vid.Cheers from Scotland.
Thanks Alistair
Amazing work as always Paul. Such an inspiration. I’ve been shooting HP5 for years with my OM2n and 50 f1.4. I have recently bought an M3 and a 50 f2 ‘cron I’m excited to see the results from that beauty. Cheers and keep em coming.
Thankyou Jon
Keep sharing! You’re really inspiring!
Grazie
Thanks for sharing your experiences paul, I owned an om2n for years, I eventually wore it out...I moved to Nikon autofocus eventually because I was photographing moving subjects and I found it slightly better, but for most purposes I loved my little Olympus....
I got an OM2 with the 1.4 50mm thrown in for an extra $35 when i went to pick up some Minolta lenses i found in the classifieds. It looked nice and thought it would be a cool shelf piece. I finally decided to put a roll of color film through it (portra 400).. Just got the photos back this Friday.. i will certainly be putting many more rolls through it. I was blown away by how good it looked. And you just can't beat that feeling of sitting film.
Paul...myself have enjoyed your work immensely and another great video to promote good music...thank you..
Thankyou
Thank you my friend!!! :)
Nice vid, great pics and cool music! I used to own both cameras, i sold it... and now I just want it back!
Black and White film is just so beautiful. I also have M6 and Om2n , use them both for B&W. These last two films are great,music and photography are the best!
Great video Paul. You rightly say that being in the right position helps get good images but the other important thing is knowing when to press the shutter, and you have managed both. One old photographer I used to know maintained that there is no such thing as pushing or pulling film, you just over or under expose the film. He also never adjusted the times for development, he just adjusted the amount of developer, that way maintaining a constant development process. He was quite a photographer in his day, even getting his prints on Kodak calendars.
Thats Interesting Tom. Thanks for watching.
Enjoyable, maybe one day I will have myself a Leica as I really enjoy my Olympus 35RC rangefinder but I love my OM2n
its worth it. I bought a M2 with a 35mm lens a few months ago and although another camera will do the same job it makes me want to pick it up and take more photos than any other camera ive had and thats worth the cost in my mind
Another amazing vid, love your work :) Have pushed delta 400 to 3200 to do some late afternoon street photography and if you don't mind the grain its incredible!!!
Will try that, thanks for watching!
Another great video, Paul. Some lovely photos there. I've just recently started pushing b&w film and, funnily enough, just added an OM2n to my collection. It's a great camera. Did you use aperture priority for your shots shown in this post? Keep up the great work.
Hi Matt, shot on manual, basically shutter priority. Set my shutter speed to between 120 and 250 and set aperture to get correct metering. Thanks for watching!
I pushed Ilford film from 400 to ISO 1600 almost daily, for years, as a working photo journalist, in the pre-digital age. But even if you had a fast 1,4 you needed to push film. ISO 400 is simply not enough in the dark to get even 1/60s. And even if you had f1,4 lens, almost always that would be a 50mm lens - other options was crazy expensive back then or non existent.
But the result, apart from being grainy felt always kinda mushy to me, I never liked it except for concert photography, sports maybe. Contrasts too high yet no micro contrasts / details. In this day and age we would say there's not enough of dynamic range :D
Yes, for us normal citizens with a mortgage on ur back Leica is far too expensive and can't be justified, film or digital one. But you got other, far cheaper options out there, like russian Zorky cameras just for a start, acquirable for under US $50, in a good condition if you're lucky.
As for Olympus goes, decades ago I had an offer to trade in one of my Nikon lenses I couldn't get rid of for a descent price (long before eBay) for a complete Olympus OM kit. There was 24, 50, 135 and 500 mm inside, so I said yes. And aside of 500mm I still own all those lenses.
Now the camera in question was OM2 I wasn't impressed with, so I sold it with the 500mm, and believe it or not, that camera still works in the hands of the same owner I sold it to.
A bit later bought the OM2sp with winder, which I still have to this day. I adore that camera despite she constantly breaks down on me, course I burned a ton of rolls thru it...
Thanks Tomislav, this is why I'm really pleased with the TMAX and Delta, you still retain a certain amount of structure in the image, It doesn't "MUsh" as much as TRIX. Take care!
great work! thank you for sharing :)
I love my olympus om-1 with the zuiko 50mm 1.4. Kodak color plus is my favourite filmstock for it right now...but pushing bw film to 1600 seems like a great experiment.
Make sure you give it a go
Totally agree, love T-Max! Looks really nice when you push it and get that slight increase in contrast.
Can you tell me how you push it? :)
@@aantomop4795 You expose it at a higher ISO and compensate by developing it for longer. It increases contrast and grain a little bit, but for T-Max, I think that's actually a good thing! For instance, expose T-Max 400 at 800 and develop it for longer. You'll find development times in the package or on the massive dev chart website.
@@thedondeluxe6941 Thank you very much! I've been experimenting with it and it's great! Using T-Max 100 right now but will try the 400 also.
@@aantomop4795 No problem!
The boys don't wait.............. & death is runnin late!!! Crackin lyrics! Certainly gives you something to think about doesn't it! Crackin shots Paul :-) Really lovin the Push :-)
Love those lyrics clever guy
Paul C Smith Photographer Definitely 😎
Another good vid mate :D Interestingly the little Olympus camera used to sell for around £200.00 with a 1.8 50m kit lens back in the days when they were first released :D Great little cameras . Loved your shots you showed in this vid and I agree with you sometimes you do just have to push a B&W to get the best results. Thanks for sharing :D Teddy
Thanks Ted
Amazing shots! I have an OM-1n. What battery do you put on the OM2n?
Energizer 357/303
Try a Wein Cell for OM-1n (rated at 1.35v)
Another great vid Sir!! Can you play Simons songs in your background always!! Awesome images!
Thanks Andy
What brand is yours strap? Great video
Excellent video Paul. I aspire to a Leica but am very happy with my OM2.
Hey Andrew, I must get a CLA done on my OM2n, beautiful little camera.
@@PaulCSmithPhotographer They're very different. An entirely different shooting style. I've tried rangefinders and I like them, but I am most definitely an SLR guy.
Paul C Smith Photographer To be honest, I should get my OM2 CLA’d but at the moment I’m focusing (sic) on my newly acquired Nikon FM.
@@andrewfrost8866 the FM is my next manual focus camera body. To keep my FE company. Both lovely cameras.
With the Tmax 400, did you continue to use HC110 dilution B, 20C for 10 minutes as with Acros? Lovely results. I was noticing your depth of field, looked like you used more than f1.4 or f2.8, just curious. What's intriguing to me is you used a process that increases contrast in an already contrasty lighting scene. Well done.
Hi Steve, yes I pretty much exclusively use HC110 dilution B. Tmax was developed for 8.30min. To be honest in a situation like this I'm not really thinking depth of field, with Simon playing guitar it was a case of trying to shoot at around 1/250 sec and setting my aperture to suit, I'm more focused on looking for the "picture" and trying to remain sensitive to that, I think most of the time that's more powerful than being concerned with depth of field. Hope that makes sense.
I'm glad to know I am not the only one that is not a Delta 400 fan or a fan of any of the Ilford Delta films. I love HP 5 and FP 4 and shoot both a good bit but Delta just doesn't fit my way of shooting for the most part.
Stand developing as opposed to normal development processes can help a lot with results from pushing and pulling film.
Pushing film is likely more than 80% time of my film photography life, Especially when you are doing street photography and the light situation just keep changing🤪 btw I prefer using hp5 more than delta when push to 1600, it got better detail in the shadow place.
Hi Paul. First up, I enjoy watching your videos, and they remind me of how much I miss New Zealand! I am primerily a film shooter that uses Olympus and Leica cameras, and I push film most of the time. Have you thought about an Olympus rangefinder vs the Leica? This feels more like a worthwhile comparison. For example, the Olympus 35SP (or UC) or 35RD? These camera lenses produce great images that are great for scanning and post processing. I appreciate this was more of a touch on 'Rangefinder vs SLR' for begginers video, but if you would like me to send you one for a video please let me know. Also, have you tried pushing Bergger Pancro 400 to 800 or 1600? It is a great film. I recently took the M6 and shot a video in Suomenlinna in Finland using Delta 400 and loved it. Anywho, thanks for your time - Sly.
Hey mate, haven't ever been able to get my hands on an Oly rangefinder, a guy over here has one might hook up with him sometime and try that comparison out. Also haven't tried that film but will add it to my list of must do's. Thanks for watching!
Thank you
Grazie
I have two Olympus OM2n's. One I bought new in 1980 and the other one about 3-4 years ago. You mentioned your focus issues. Sounds like you have a bad focus screen. They are removable by the way. Both of my OM2n bodies have the split screen focus where the image becomes one when focus is right. To me this is a great and easy to use system. Far easier than my Voightlander rangefinder or Nikon D5500 or D750. Even my Sony A7iii with focus peaking I find much harder to manual focus than the Olympus. But then I have used this system for 38 1/2 years and used to it. I would guess you should get a new focus screen from ebay or other used site. Last time I looked a focus screen for the Oly was 10-20 bucks. The screens are very easy to change.
nice gear there mate was those negs scanned or printed off an enlarger they are pretty good
They were all scanned, thanks for watching.
Love photos! Will like to know how to do your scans!
Thanks, go check out my film processing vid
What phone do you have? It was pretty cool looking. Also, do you push color film?
Sony Xperia I think, probably the best phone I have owned, bullet proof.
Paul great images but some look blown out in the highlights where they have been pushed, great videos though
Thanks Royston, yea I kind of like that.
How about a video illustrating your agitation techniques and the effect on the negatives.
I will see what I can do, take care.
Om2n 🥰!!!
The Olympus is the best camera made. Just my opinion, but man they are it for me.
Curious as to why you didn't, or don't like Tri-X?
Tri X never really popped for me until I pushed it to 1600. Don't know but I changed my opinion on it once I did that. Check out the Railway video
@@PaulCSmithPhotographer I have seen that one may times, thanks. YOu mention loving the old magnum Photographers and most of them were shooting Tri-x as did most of the great photographers of days gone by. But if you don't like ti you don't, plan and simple.
For the price ill take an Olympus over the Leica.
Leica heavily over prices their products and lately Sony us breathing down their neck. Apparently same story as told in older times, demonstrated by the Olympus performing just as well for a much lower initial cost.
I see you have an Olympus there. I'm kinda caught in between a few different vintage SLR's. Are you liking the Olympus? I have 3 different SLR's right now and am trying to choose a single system. Pentax/Nikon/Olympus... I'm leaning Olympus or Pentax because of the smaller body.
Can't fault the Olympus beatiful camera, actually shooting one in my new video out tomorrow.
@@PaulCSmithPhotographer sweet. I'll check it out! Ya, I shoot a Contax G1, a fujifilm X100 for digital, and sort of just want to settle on one vintage SLR if I'm going to invest in lenses.