Why I Abandoned Star Wars: The High Republic
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- Опубликовано: 12 дек 2021
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In this video, we talk about why I have ultimately decided to abandon reading anything with High Republic branding on it. Enjoy!
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Star Wars seems to be run by people who hate it and hate its fans it’s so weird
I couldn’t agree more!
The whole thing they did with the twin characters in the comics kinda took the cake for some of these things also Claudia's new novel in the high republic is called the fallen star
Ah yea that’s it! Thanks for commenting… I didn’t even bother with the comics as im really enjoying the regular Star Wars comic title and Darth Vader comic
@@Dante19883 yeah hey would you be up for an open discussion about the high republic I'd like to here what you have to say about some of the other aspects of it
Dante, I commend you for not only giving the book a chance! I am shocked after reading it, it still turned out to be unworthy of your time! Also, have you considered reviewing Heman Revelation? It's such a disaster with gorgeous animation I think you might have some thoughts on! Also congrats on the podcast bro$
Thanks Lowell! Great to hear from you my friend. I will have to check out He Man sometime soon!
Excited for the podcast!!!
Thanks Ava!!
Hey, mate. I enjoyed Soule's DV run, but I loved his wee stint on Moon Knight, as well. Cool! 😺👍🏻
Yeah Soule’s Darth Vader is chef’s kiss material! Loved it so much, I’ve actually preordered the Omni for his entire run! I’ll have to check out his moon knight stuff. Thanks!
Hey Dante! I just discovered your channel and I’m really enjoying your content. I’m going to check out your podcast too. As for the high republic, I couldn’t agree more. I especially wanted to highlight you made about the corporatism and bureaucracy in Star Wars now. The more corporate it becomes, the worse the content is becoming! I would really love to hear your take on the Star Wars Star Cruiser hotel controversy. Thanks and keep up the great work!
You got it Matt!
I like your take on high republic
I personally listened to the audiobook and really liked how light of Jedi.
I also listened to the rising storm, I kinda get what you mean about it being slow, but in my case i still cared about some of characters, and their personal arcs still kept the story alive for me.
I can’t empathise with your take that they are not interesting enough, did you barely like any of them in the first book?
If anything,the dynamics between the villains and and ending were the most interesting elements for me.
I do get what you mean about tokenism, not subtle at all
Thanks for your comment, I appreciate it. In the first book, I found the plot pretty riveting and original. the dynamic between Avar Kriss and Elzar Mann had me intrigued. I enjoy reading about personal conflicts very much.. this was examined a bit in Rising Storm with Mann’s romantic relationship, but the rest of the characters I couldn’t care less about. The book I feel spreads itself too thin with character POV and we don’t get enough time to form any attachment to them. Plus I find the incorruptible Jedi like Bell Zettifar, Loren Greatstorm and Stellan Gios to be so tiresome. Heck, Obi-Wan was a “goody-goody” but he even experienced personal conflict in the Obi-Wan novel by John Jackson Miller. That actually is one of my favourite Star Wars books. Overall I just find the high republic to be superficial. And yes, the tokenism was way overdone in this book. Thanks for commenting!
Podcast too?! Awesome gonna listen tot that version too! I didn’t bother with the high republic. I know I shouldn’t prejudge, but I was turned off immediately when they announced it! Now I will for sure not be checking it out after watching this video lol
I was just out of Star Wars after the sequel trilogy was just unbeliever to watch.
I actually liked the prequels, but you’re not missing much with the sequels. Man Star Wars stuff today is really hit or miss. I suggest you try out the mandalorian. Great stuff! Thanks for commenting!
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anyone asks me if im into high republic, i just correct them and say high horse
Ha ha good point! I couldn’t agree more and I couldn’t have said it better myself!
The best books I've read in Star wars was the trilogy of Darth Bane by Drew Karpyshyn.
Can’t argue with you there. Those are at the top of my list too!
The best by far 👌
I know it a different era but why 200 years? why not 500 years before the prequels and What the Jedi are wear in the cover is too much and something a typical Jedi would wear I mean the gold and White just seems too prideful.
Hey, at least you gave it a go.
If you want amazing sci-fi can I wholeheartedly suggest checking out the Deathstalker series by Simon R. Green.
I can't praise it enough.
Thanks for the rec, I’ll take a look at it! Good to hear from you and thanks for commenting!
If you think the books are bad wait till you read the comics. I shit you not they make the Jedi worse than a sith.
I haven’t even bothered with the comics so I’ll for sure take your word for it lol
I gave the first book a chance, it was OK, did 2 more on Audible - trash
The Jedi near their height struggle with.... a space biker gang?
I’m hoping on that podcast to listen to this episode again right after I’m all set with this video. High republic wasn’t for me. I tried it with Claudia Gray’s book. Yeah wasn’t impressed at all. Great video!
Thanks Will! Yes, Claudia gray disappointed me with her high republic book lol
I really didn't like Light of the Jedi, I bounced hard off of Cavan Scott's earlier books, so I didn't try. I tried Claudia Grey's first YA book in the series, and was bored. I'm stuck on her adult book in the series, and I'm planning to try reading it, instead of using the audiobook like I started. But it's not great.
Yeah.. this initiative is so underwhelming to me… I haven’t even looked twice at the new book. I’m focusing on legends reading right now
@@Dante19883 I am all for reading the old EU! Have you read the X-Wing books and comics before? :)
Wow. What an interesting take on Rising Storm. Well, my kind sir. I know what we are talking about next. Lol Great podcast as usual brother.
Thanks Ben! Look forward to chatting!
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YES!! Can't wait to check out the podcast. Great video! I read both adult high republic books. I wouldn't say light of the jedi was amazing, but I liked it enough to read rising storm. Now that I've read rising storm, I'm out as well. Couldn't agree more with you analysis. Its just boring and superficial now. Not invested in this initiative at all anymore.
Thanks Vince
Hey, sorry that I’m late, but anyways, a couple things to start.
1) the Nihil are more like space Vikings, per se.
2) the other villain are plant people created by the Sith, the Drengir.
Now that that’s out of the way, let me say that I’ve kept up with the majority of THR’s content, sans the comics. I’ve read Light, Darkness, and Courage from the initial wave. The one I felt was the most political/woke/pretentious, was the Test of Courage by Ireland. Vern is a bit of a self-insert by J.I., she’s so overly perfect and stuck up that it’s impossible to like her. I didn’t mind the other two; I find Light by Soule to be pedestrian at its best and boring/cringey at its worst. Gray’s book was boring and loaded with bad ideas (Jedi sex, Geode, etc). The characters are bland with the exception of Elzar, who is not enough to carry the series. I liked Bell and Loden, but…well I don’t want to spoil for the audience. At the end, Jedi are dying and I don’t care, and that’s a terrible failure on the writers’ part. I don’t like the agenda, and there wasn’t a world established that I can care about.
PS. Syl is also gay. Lots of gay characters. It’s not organic, it’s like they’re being shoved in your face.
Lots of gay characters for sure and Ireland just sucks... Now I liked grays book for the most part especially with the one master who's struggling with understanding why light and dark are split
Exactly! The only thing that would get me to read more is if a future novel dealt only with Elzar Mann. I give you credit for checking all that out. I read Grays book Soules and this one. Now I’m done lol
@@Dante19883, I can see why a lot of people are dropping this/aren’t paying it any mind. Thor Skywalker said this series suffers from overplanning, and I think he’s slightly off the mark. I think those in charge chose to overplan on all the wrong things, like diversity and representation instead of building a world with phase one that we would care about and want to thrive. Phase one puts us right at the point of crisis instead of establishing how the Republic was at its golden age. I understand we need conflict, but that could’ve come from the Republic thriving in spite of conflicts, which could’ve arose out of pioneering the Outer Rim and the Wild Regions. It also doesn’t help when TOR did what you tried to do, except it did everything better. It established characters that we grew to love, a Republic that was resilient, strong, relatable, and able to be rooted for, all while entertaining us.
Respect for reading the series but many of us "toxic" fans saw this miles away. On a whiteboard you could see the topics on what was important for them and it was like inclusion and diversity on top and story further down..You did not mention Justina Ireland who is an activist for her cause and social issues can not be in the back ground it needs to be front and center. Sadly what they are fighting for social justice can be a powerful tool when we can relate but it often becomes cringe and the story must be ideological as to not offend people.
I find it hard to care for many of the characters like these since they act according to their authors political belief. Let's hate on the white straight male yeah!!! Let's lecture the audience and remind them how bad Trump is..Can we plz just watch a good show and for the next 20 mins forget we are on planet earth?
Some years back I enjoyed many shows and the social issues was allways there and you could relate and wanting things to be better and be better. Take the Expanse it is a conflict where human fights human but not based on gender/race/religion its based on if you are from Earth, Mars or the belt. We can relate and understand and get excited for this amazing story. People are gay black and it does not matter because the story is amazing and that gives amazing characters.
I will not invest the time in this Star wars from the story group and Kathleen Kennedy. It is not for me and that is ok. The sad thing is that many things move towards the High republic way of doing things or the show is problematic. Focus gets on is the black character black enough or is the character gay enough. Most of us have watched many shows and movies with diversity and strong female casts and now it is like that stuff never got made. So we are stuck with writers and their egos to change characters to suit what they want and need. Imagine going to another fandom and feeling the entitlement to shape it for what you want. So I'll rewrite the Jane Austin books and put In tons of action and macho men since we need the male audience to be able to relate to these books. Focus on making a great story first and the rest will follow. The problem with the high republic is that it is all mapped out and it matters not how good writer is when the foundation is about the message and ideological standingpoints.
You can tell they care more about “diversity” than telling an actual good story with interesting characters
I agree with you both. I got that sense a lot in the second book. Yes I’m done with the high republic but now I’m wondering what the new one shot novel releases will be like. There are two slated for spring 2022 release dealing with Luke and Lando and another as well.
This is happening across different franchises. Was told by a niece this was happening with Anne of Green Gables. Yeah, the book written at the turn of the last century. Took a look, and yep, if you don't like how the novel was co-opted and the general story was hijacked by people who used this popular novels and series to preach at people instead of creating their own stories.
It's giving me the idea that the writers tried to write something on their own, but no one cared and it failed. So, how to make people interested? I know. Masquerade the new work as a well-established older work; change it to talk political ideologies; and then charge fans with being right wing monsters when the fans hate it, refuse to pay for it, and criticize it. It's legit Weird
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It kinda sounds like you dont wanna see gay content in star wars at all, when straight characters have romantic or sexual thoughts about a character you didnt complain about that, It honestly isnt anymore over the head then any romance in a book straight or otherwise, so if you just dont like any romance/sexual content in starwars i suppose thats fair, but i dont think it's as over the head annoying as you're making it out to be in the last 10 mins of this video
Hi there, thanks for your comment. No it’s not that at all. Inclusion of gay characters is fine, but there is a point, with gay or straight characters where it becomes a bit too much. Star Wars has never been a franchise that has been overly concerned with sex and romance. That is why generally attack of the clones was panned by fans. Lucas called it a love story, but do profound love stories really jive well with Star Wars? Star Wars and sexuality in my opinion is like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. Inclusion is great, but Cavan Scott (or the editorial committee) went way overboard with sexuality in this book. It got to the point where I felt like I was being forced to think a certain way. I would be saying the same thing if they overdid it with issues of straight sexuality. Thanks for commenting
@@Dante19883 I personally view starwars like this, sex exists, obviously, if it didn't then people wouldn't exist, the thing is it isn't necessary to show it, any mature viewer knows anakin and padme had sex, but it has no reason to be said/presented because starwars is for everybody, but hey that's how i view it.