I cannot believe that all my answers were given in one video. Concisely set up in parts that also give options. And examples. For when’s/where’s. #Subbed
This is exactly what I needed exactly now! I'm still fumbling a bit -- going from studio setup in the 90's to a livestream setup now has a little bit of a learnign curve. Agreed, vMix is great.
hey john, thanks for this interesting video! for almost exactly one year, my job has turned into exactly what this video covers. I stream and record multi-camera music concerts with the studio I work at. I set up 8 static cameras on tripods and feed them to the Blackmagic television studio HD, deal with lighting and composing shots, and do the camera switching (as well as being a part of the whole audio production as well). during the past year, I've done over 250 multi-camera productions!! (i've been busy) sooo much of what you covered in this video was extremely relatable to me and it was fun to watch, see the similarities (which there were many) and some of the different perspectives you offered as well.
An excellent, excellent presentation! Everything you said echoes what I have been telling people and my assistants over the years, especially to prepare and test!
Excellent tutorial. I'm just starting in event production as an amateur for my hobby club. It is great to have you go into details about parts of the process that I am still in doubt about. Subscribed for sure.
Great presentation! I do livestream at our church and you've confirmed some choices I've already made. Thanks. We are using OBS, 2 R800 camcorders, an AVKANS PTZ 20x and 1 Logitec web cam for the fixed wide shot for live editing. I've learned to use the webcam to switch to when the main camera is moving to change shots. We have some special events coming up and you've given me help thinking how to place the cameras. I also mix the sound but always question it since I have issues and hearing aids. I laugh when people expect me to figure out sound issues. I do but it takes longer. Thanks
I'm pretty experienced with multi-cam live streams, but I always like to revisit the basics. Great presentation and explanations. I still learned a few new things. Can't speak highly enough about VMix, as well. Love that program.
John: great, great, great. What else can I say? Great! These challenging times have turned live production into an existentialist experience: if you don’t know how to live stream your very survival might be at stake. I’ve had to revert to multicam streaming using the popular platforms to offset the shutdown of physical meeting sessions during corporate trainings and have adopted a slim setup using the ubiquitous Atem mini along other pieces of gear to jazz up my online corporate training sessions. Your video is a precious resource or asset for someone like me that has had to learn the hard way what live streaming requires, though I can tell you that the leap into a more professional live production during my training sessions has provoked unsolicited appreciation feedbacks that have made think of a fully fledged startup, hopefully coming out soon. Great great great asset is your video. Thank you so much.
This is really great. I just purchased an extreme iso and own a mini pro as well. What I need help with is pricing out our services. This is a totally different offering for my company.
Yes Hess, pls look into the 4G/5G solution in regards to streaming. You are the best person for explaining this type of stuff. Keep up the good work!!!
I was starting to look into it - especially the dual channel bonding stuff... looks like a great solution for those places where you can't trust the internet. Just need to get enough of those kind of gigs to justify the costs.
Super informative. By the way, you have some serious Wallace Shawn vibes going on in your style. It felt like you were seconds from yelling 'inconceivable!' at any moment. Thanks for all the help in getting our live stream up!
I didn't know what to expect from the title but it certainly wasn't a look at what I've been doing for my church for almost a decade now. The biggest obstacle to a quality setup is always the person in charge imposing limitations or deciding to change things last-minute. Oh, and a note about compatibility: Check what version of Windows it needs. Some stuff (like Elgato's capture stuff for gamers) isn't compatible with older versions. If you think this is irrelevant, well you've never worked with other people's equipment. Work a few venues and you'll be astounded by how many people still use XP and Vista.
I do agree that setting up good and interesting technology is really good for learning quickly. That’s one reason why I as of 4th June 2021 have 5 Raspberry Pi SBCs in total; 2 Pi4B 8GiB, 1 Pi4B 4GiB and 2 Pi Zero W.
John -- As someone who produces local events for our cable channel and is constantly working for improvement, I have watched your videos for years. I would like to give you a well-deserved compliment for this one as I agree totally with your advice and ideas. I am presently considering a proposal for our small school and community to advance to more and better video coverage, and this video will be very useful. Thanks so much for making your thoughts and experience available to everyone!
Now I am curious about the trumpet playing. Lol! (sorry for the off topic comment. just always suspected a significant level of musical skulduggery going on behind the scenes).
Great really video... I am not in the livestream totally,I did it in corona time more now less I mostly record classical concert on multicam multimic setup and edit them after .Half of my cameras are Blackmagic Pocket line and the other half Hybrid Panasonic GH5s S5,gh5 ...live stream is mostly for my client too expensive and lack of total control is a minus...classical musicien like to see before puting it online. So what I do it is more in production style old school. I did some livestream RUclips concert as soundingenieur at the mixing table feeding the switcher with audio from the concert and it is not always optimal. Classical music régie, chosing the angles is as well not easy,you need to read the score and have a good crew who knows what they are doing, like for sports. It's why it is cheaper most of the time to just record the venue in log, multicam and edit it in post, and more time to edit the cut. But I can do live stream if somebody ask and the atem iso pro is I think the best tool for what I do if I need to stream as well as OBS.
Problem is this stuff changes constantly. You really need to try to understand the concept of what you're trying to do and then piece the kit to fit what you need. And budgets range all over the place
How do you show the question from the chat using a title? What software do you use for this? Is it vMix Social? Does a host that is in front of the camera can control it using a tablet or a phone? At 22:23
You mean how to plug stuff in? It's pretty self evident, but really with this stuff there's going to be a lot of on job learning. I want to provide you with some foundational stuff but you need to go and figure out the last mile on your own ;)
@@FilmmakerIQ yes. How and which order to plug stuff in. No one wants to tell that part. I've watched countless vids on set ups but not how to actually set it. Meh 😑
Hey John, enjoyed the video. I do live sports at a local college and also high schools and youth sports. The Hollyland 400 is superb! I’ve used it in baseball on a centerfield shot and its great. In college it’s a little longer than 400’ and “never” fails. Love it. PTZ cameras are cool. I’ve got one but really don’t use it as much as I should. My question is….can I some how use the Hollyland to not only use it with video, but be able to control it through the Hollyland? Thanks for the video. I’m be looking at others.
I've been trying to figure out a wireless solution for a long time. If you're using NDI enabled camera I think it's just a matter of running wireless wifi. But to send camera control wireless, that's a different story... There's wireless ways to send VISCA control signal... But they're really expensive (best I could find).... I was thinking about sending VISCA over WiFi.... But I don't know how reliable that would be
SOOOO, I had a smigg of tradtional video production and broadcasting experience. But I am A Twitch streamer wanting to try something new. My goal is to have a set up with like 5 cameras, in different rooms, webcams and mirrorless cameras. Webcams I use USB extenders for. Currently use obs and an elgato stream deck to swap scenes/shots. for mobile audio i use a wireless headset, and for my main shot i use an xlr microphone. The goal is to have 2 static cameras in the game room, 1 in the living room and one in the kitchen. This way i could merge Gaming and IRL content all into 1 stream instead of multiple using my phone and the mobile app to stream IRL content. I could have a moderator switch the category and then use the mobile stream deck app to swap scenes to transition to say a cooking stream after gaming. Or if I leave the room to grab a snack have the cameras follow me instead of having a brb screen, ect. Is this something I could accomplish with webcams for now, or would I need to upgrade equipment? Im trying to figure out if i should do a dual pc set up ect. I loved this video because its the first ive seen that goes in depth, and mentions more that 2 cameras.
You might be able to pull off webcams with streams from multiple computers... Definitely will get complicated. But look into NDI... It's basically video over a network which means you can literally take feeds from anywhere on the network no matter how far away.
Do you know if there is an easy option to do wireless switching? I'm a solo operator with a vision to do a typical 3 cam setup for our events. One stationary cam, one on a motorized slider and one moving on a steadycam (me). I want to be able to live switch from that wireless cam 😲😁 Crazy or doable?
you forgot transition points like. Don't try every transition the switcher has live on the air. use mainly cuts or cross-fades only and only one or two 'Cool' transitions when going to/from an offshoot.
Great video. How do you wire the PTZ Camera(s) to work with the PTZ Controller and the Atem Switch at the same time? Through an Ethernet Hub/Switch or do you split the signal?
The way I did it in this video was using a ethernet /SDI combo cable... Then SDI to HDMI using a converter. These days I'm doing NDI which I should make a video about
@@FilmmakerIQ Thanks for the reply, however, I don't understand...Ethernet/SDI Combo??? Ethernet on the PTZ Cameras to a switch and SDI to a converter to the Atem? My goal is to go wireless (Hollyland) with the PTZ cameras to the Atem, but can't figure out how to control the cameras with the PTZ Controller ...I'd power the PTZ Cameras at their location... Any assistance is appreciated.
Combo cable is a Ethernet SDI cables fused together... So it's one strand with two cables. Truth be told there isn't an easy way to wirelessly send Visca over IP wirelessly. PTZ optics dies have a wireless solution but it's pretty expensive. I was starting to play with sending wireless signals via NDI-HX ( both control and video signal) but it seems that just isn't going to be a reliable method yet.
Hey John. This is great, thank you. We'd love to put Mavis on your radar, too. Mavis a cloud-based multi-camera video production software which has integrated with ATOMOS Connect devices. Would you be interested in discussing further? :)
Hey John, what kind of video output do you get from that Mirabox capture card? I bought a similar one recently and found out I'm getting a rather weak MJPEG output from it, noticeably blocky and smudged, and no option anywhere to adjust the bitrate or change the format.
Weird, it's pretty decent for me. I've actually used that as input for some of my live streams on this channel without noticing anything off or having to change any setting. Maybe you got a defective one?
@@FilmmakerIQ Nah, maybe just a too cheap one :) It's not looking like it's broken, it's just that the data that's coming out of it is in a bad format and at too low of a bitrate. Just to be clear, it's not *exactly* like the one you showed, I meant a thing of a similar price range and form factor. I did some digging in the meantime, and it seems that the one you have can output video in YUY2 format instead of MJPEG, which should be a notable improvement. If you find some time, try checking the advanced settings in OBS for the capture device, alongside resolution and rate and such, there might be a video format to select. You're probably going to have a selection between MJPEG and YUY2.
@@FilmmakerIQ Were you using it with real-world camera feeds or computer/console output? I guess compression is most visible on sharp text and edges of PC desktop output, which is what I was using it for, so it's really noticeable. Or maybe you just have a higher bitrate MJPEG, so even that looks better. I guess don't fix what's not broken, but you could possibly get an even better output with YUY2. In any case, thank you very much for taking the time to respond. I've said it before, but I absolutely love all the stuff you're doing around here - keep up the great work!
before this video I saw an ad from Obama to to donate $5. Thanks for reminding me to donate 20 to Trump. I almost was able to escape from the reality that our country was being heisted into the dark ages, the new dark ages or should we say dark age. But I must resist.
This channel always answers questions before I even think to ask them
I cannot believe that all my answers were given in one video. Concisely set up in parts that also give options. And examples. For when’s/where’s. #Subbed
This is exactly what I needed exactly now! I'm still fumbling a bit -- going from studio setup in the 90's to a livestream setup now has a little bit of a learnign curve.
Agreed, vMix is great.
its really helpful, i dont need to be infront of my students or OJTs, i just show this video, after then i entertain Question. Thank you Very much!
hey john, thanks for this interesting video! for almost exactly one year, my job has turned into exactly what this video covers. I stream and record multi-camera music concerts with the studio I work at. I set up 8 static cameras on tripods and feed them to the Blackmagic television studio HD, deal with lighting and composing shots, and do the camera switching (as well as being a part of the whole audio production as well). during the past year, I've done over 250 multi-camera productions!! (i've been busy)
sooo much of what you covered in this video was extremely relatable to me and it was fun to watch, see the similarities (which there were many) and some of the different perspectives you offered as well.
An excellent, excellent presentation! Everything you said echoes what I have been telling people and my assistants over the years, especially to prepare and test!
Excellent tutorial. I'm just starting in event production as an amateur for my hobby club. It is great to have you go into details about parts of the process that I am still in doubt about. Subscribed for sure.
Great presentation! I do livestream at our church and you've confirmed some choices I've already made. Thanks. We are using OBS, 2 R800 camcorders, an AVKANS PTZ 20x and 1 Logitec web cam for the fixed wide shot for live editing. I've learned to use the webcam to switch to when the main camera is moving to change shots. We have some special events coming up and you've given me help thinking how to place the cameras. I also mix the sound but always question it since I have issues and hearing aids. I laugh when people expect me to figure out sound issues. I do but it takes longer. Thanks
I'm pretty experienced with multi-cam live streams, but I always like to revisit the basics. Great presentation and explanations. I still learned a few new things. Can't speak highly enough about VMix, as well. Love that program.
but it needs window 10
@@jyvben1520 I have Windows 11, so it's not a problem. But, I can see how that would be annoying to people with older op systems.
John: great, great, great. What else can I say? Great! These challenging times have turned live production into an existentialist experience: if you don’t know how to live stream your very survival might be at stake. I’ve had to revert to multicam streaming using the popular platforms to offset the shutdown of physical meeting sessions during corporate trainings and have adopted a slim setup using the ubiquitous Atem mini along other pieces of gear to jazz up my online corporate training sessions. Your video is a precious resource or asset for someone like me that has had to learn the hard way what live streaming requires, though I can tell you that the leap into a more professional live production during my training sessions has provoked unsolicited appreciation feedbacks that have made think of a fully fledged startup, hopefully coming out soon. Great great great asset is your video. Thank you so much.
This video is really helpful, I have been following you for a long time, every video of yours is very good
This is really great. I just purchased an extreme iso and own a mini pro as well. What I need help with is pricing out our services. This is a totally different offering for my company.
Yes Hess, pls look into the 4G/5G solution in regards to streaming. You are the best person for explaining this type of stuff. Keep up the good work!!!
I was starting to look into it - especially the dual channel bonding stuff... looks like a great solution for those places where you can't trust the internet. Just need to get enough of those kind of gigs to justify the costs.
Thank you so much, this was very useful
This one was timely. I'm assembling my multi cam set up now. Thanks
I'm actually packing this up right now for a stream tomorrow haha
We use fiber optical HDMI cables up to 150 feed.
Amazingly clear, precise, and helpful. I could work for you.
Super informative. By the way, you have some serious Wallace Shawn vibes going on in your style. It felt like you were seconds from yelling 'inconceivable!' at any moment. Thanks for all the help in getting our live stream up!
I didn't know what to expect from the title but it certainly wasn't a look at what I've been doing for my church for almost a decade now. The biggest obstacle to a quality setup is always the person in charge imposing limitations or deciding to change things last-minute.
Oh, and a note about compatibility: Check what version of Windows it needs. Some stuff (like Elgato's capture stuff for gamers) isn't compatible with older versions. If you think this is irrelevant, well you've never worked with other people's equipment. Work a few venues and you'll be astounded by how many people still use XP and Vista.
thanks this was very helpful
Amazing video! Thank you very much! 🙏
Hi guys. Amazing video
Can you suggest on the dos and don'ts for someone who's looking to change careers and dive into this?
Love your choice of Ted Talk to use. Well done!
This is great! Thank you
I do agree that setting up good and interesting technology is really good for learning quickly. That’s one reason why I as of 4th June 2021 have 5 Raspberry Pi SBCs in total; 2 Pi4B 8GiB, 1 Pi4B 4GiB and 2 Pi Zero W.
Can't believe my eyes. That was really useful man
Thanks for all the info Bro!!!
Excellent
Been looking forward to this one so much!
John -- As someone who produces local events for our cable channel and is constantly working for improvement, I have watched your videos for years. I would like to give you a well-deserved compliment for this one as I agree totally with your advice and ideas. I am presently considering a proposal for our small school and community to advance to more and better video coverage, and this video will be very useful. Thanks so much for making your thoughts and experience available to everyone!
This is really a great idea, adkido ptz camera is willing to support and help you
I really appreciate the Wilhelm scream at the intro lol
This what I need I was clueless to a lot of camera angles
Hey, you're back! 👍😉
Fantastic video!
Its informative , thanks very much
Now I am curious about the trumpet playing. Lol! (sorry for the off topic comment. just always suspected a significant level of musical skulduggery going on behind the scenes).
Great really video...
I am not in the livestream totally,I did it in corona time more now less
I mostly record classical concert on multicam multimic setup and edit them after .Half of my cameras are Blackmagic Pocket line and the other half Hybrid Panasonic GH5s S5,gh5 ...live stream is mostly for my client too expensive and lack of total control is a minus...classical musicien like to see before puting it online.
So what I do it is more in production style old school.
I did some livestream RUclips concert as soundingenieur at the mixing table feeding the switcher with audio from the concert and it is not always optimal.
Classical music régie, chosing the angles is as well not easy,you need to read the score and have a good crew who knows what they are doing, like for sports.
It's why it is cheaper most of the time to just record the venue in log, multicam and edit it in post, and more time to edit the cut.
But I can do live stream if somebody ask and the atem iso pro is I think the best tool for what I do if I need to stream as well as OBS.
really interesting thanks!
You're the guy who snatched my coax stripper! (I can't stand losing things. Always end up looking in the freezer for some reason).
thanks for sharing.
A list of the items in the build and links to sites would be cool. looking to build similar.
Problem is this stuff changes constantly. You really need to try to understand the concept of what you're trying to do and then piece the kit to fit what you need. And budgets range all over the place
yeah
How do you show the question from the chat using a title? What software do you use for this? Is it vMix Social? Does a host that is in front of the camera can control it using a tablet or a phone? At 22:23
VMix Social is an app that connects the comments to vMix as a title graphic... And I'm the one that pulls the comments ;)
Do you have a video on how to hook everything up
You mean how to plug stuff in? It's pretty self evident, but really with this stuff there's going to be a lot of on job learning. I want to provide you with some foundational stuff but you need to go and figure out the last mile on your own ;)
@@FilmmakerIQ yes. How and which order to plug stuff in. No one wants to tell that part. I've watched countless vids on set ups but not how to actually set it. Meh 😑
There's no particular order, just plug it in.
Hey John, enjoyed the video. I do live sports at a local college and also high schools and youth sports. The Hollyland 400 is superb! I’ve used it in baseball on a centerfield shot and its great. In college it’s a little longer than 400’ and “never” fails. Love it. PTZ cameras are cool. I’ve got one but really don’t use it as much as I should. My question is….can I some how use the Hollyland to not only use it with video, but be able to control it through the Hollyland? Thanks for the video. I’m be looking at others.
I've been trying to figure out a wireless solution for a long time. If you're using NDI enabled camera I think it's just a matter of running wireless wifi.
But to send camera control wireless, that's a different story... There's wireless ways to send VISCA control signal... But they're really expensive (best I could find).... I was thinking about sending VISCA over WiFi.... But I don't know how reliable that would be
keep doing, good work 👏👏👏
SOOOO, I had a smigg of tradtional video production and broadcasting experience. But I am A Twitch streamer wanting to try something new.
My goal is to have a set up with like 5 cameras, in different rooms, webcams and mirrorless cameras. Webcams I use USB extenders for. Currently use obs and an elgato stream deck to swap scenes/shots. for mobile audio i use a wireless headset, and for my main shot i use an xlr microphone. The goal is to have 2 static cameras in the game room, 1 in the living room and one in the kitchen. This way i could merge Gaming and IRL content all into 1 stream instead of multiple using my phone and the mobile app to stream IRL content. I could have a moderator switch the category and then use the mobile stream deck app to swap scenes to transition to say a cooking stream after gaming. Or if I leave the room to grab a snack have the cameras follow me instead of having a brb screen, ect.
Is this something I could accomplish with webcams for now, or would I need to upgrade equipment? Im trying to figure out if i should do a dual pc set up ect. I loved this video because its the first ive seen that goes in depth, and mentions more that 2 cameras.
You might be able to pull off webcams with streams from multiple computers... Definitely will get complicated.
But look into NDI... It's basically video over a network which means you can literally take feeds from anywhere on the network no matter how far away.
Do you know if there is an easy option to do wireless switching? I'm a solo operator with a vision to do a typical 3 cam setup for our events. One stationary cam, one on a motorized slider and one moving on a steadycam (me). I want to be able to live switch from that wireless cam 😲😁 Crazy or doable?
It's doable but I would advise against it if you're solo. You're going to need someone else to help
you forgot transition points like. Don't try every transition the switcher has live on the air. use mainly cuts or cross-fades only and only one or two 'Cool' transitions when going to/from an offshoot.
Everything relies on pre-production, because live events have no post-production.
Great video. How do you wire the PTZ Camera(s) to work with the PTZ Controller and the Atem Switch at the same time? Through an Ethernet Hub/Switch or do you split the signal?
The way I did it in this video was using a ethernet /SDI combo cable... Then SDI to HDMI using a converter.
These days I'm doing NDI which I should make a video about
@@FilmmakerIQ Thanks for the reply, however, I don't understand...Ethernet/SDI Combo???
Ethernet on the PTZ Cameras to a switch and SDI to a converter to the Atem?
My goal is to go wireless (Hollyland) with the PTZ cameras to the Atem, but can't figure out how to control the cameras with the PTZ Controller ...I'd power the PTZ Cameras at their location...
Any assistance is appreciated.
Combo cable is a Ethernet SDI cables fused together... So it's one strand with two cables.
Truth be told there isn't an easy way to wirelessly send Visca over IP wirelessly. PTZ optics dies have a wireless solution but it's pretty expensive. I was starting to play with sending wireless signals via NDI-HX ( both control and video signal) but it seems that just isn't going to be a reliable method yet.
@@FilmmakerIQ PTZ Optics Solution doesn't appear to account for a connection to the Atem???
I believe they recommend using software (OBS) to serve as the switcher. If that's the case I don't see why one couldn't use the Hollyland System???
Awesome & Thanks :)
Hey John. This is great, thank you. We'd love to put Mavis on your radar, too. Mavis a cloud-based multi-camera video production software which has integrated with ATOMOS Connect devices. Would you be interested in discussing further? :)
Yes. Contact me through the website
Heyo, i have a question. What major do you recommend to get into the field?
Business.
It really doesn't matter but at least with business you'll come to it with a more business like attitude.
nice video
Please explain about the ACES colour space
I don't know enough about that yet. I should learn.
Hi, I have 2 usb webcam to my Mac. Can those mentioned works? Any recommendations would be appreciated.
If you are using a software switcher it might work but this video is mainly working with broadcast equipment
@@FilmmakerIQ thanks for responding, I’m planning to start of with using usb webcam for boardcasting though and upgrade in future.
Hey John, what kind of video output do you get from that Mirabox capture card? I bought a similar one recently and found out I'm getting a rather weak MJPEG output from it, noticeably blocky and smudged, and no option anywhere to adjust the bitrate or change the format.
Weird, it's pretty decent for me. I've actually used that as input for some of my live streams on this channel without noticing anything off or having to change any setting. Maybe you got a defective one?
@@FilmmakerIQ Nah, maybe just a too cheap one :) It's not looking like it's broken, it's just that the data that's coming out of it is in a bad format and at too low of a bitrate. Just to be clear, it's not *exactly* like the one you showed, I meant a thing of a similar price range and form factor. I did some digging in the meantime, and it seems that the one you have can output video in YUY2 format instead of MJPEG, which should be a notable improvement. If you find some time, try checking the advanced settings in OBS for the capture device, alongside resolution and rate and such, there might be a video format to select. You're probably going to have a selection between MJPEG and YUY2.
There's that option on Vmix asking with a whole host of others. I just use the mjpeg
@@FilmmakerIQ Were you using it with real-world camera feeds or computer/console output? I guess compression is most visible on sharp text and edges of PC desktop output, which is what I was using it for, so it's really noticeable. Or maybe you just have a higher bitrate MJPEG, so even that looks better. I guess don't fix what's not broken, but you could possibly get an even better output with YUY2. In any case, thank you very much for taking the time to respond. I've said it before, but I absolutely love all the stuff you're doing around here - keep up the great work!
I've used it for both a camera feed and a splinter feed from a projector/computer...
Cool
I don't want it, I need it!
What monitor are you using?
On that box, an old blackmagic studio monitor that I got used
@@FilmmakerIQ Thanks its looks larger than the newer ones and would fits into the compact setup.
@@FilmmakerIQ whats the size ? 17" and what case is that ?
Wow
Excellent sir, i want be broadcaster
Test test test!))) It's true!
You are like a gospel of John for streaming Bible )))
My handle used to be Gospel John but it was because of this song (I'm a trumpet player) ruclips.net/video/agB9iuev7h4/видео.html
before this video I saw an ad from Obama to to donate $5. Thanks for reminding me to donate 20 to Trump. I almost was able to escape from the reality that our country was being heisted into the dark ages, the new dark ages or should we say dark age. But I must resist.
Its informative , thanks very much
Awesome & Thanks :)