Should You Buy the Ryzen 7 3700X for Gaming?
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2019
- AMD's Zen 2 launch is here! In this video, we assess the viability of the 3700X for gamers in light of Intel's current 9900K "king." Three CPUs are compared: the 2700X, 3700X, and 9900K. My decision to forego the 9700K's inclusion was a direct result of the 3700X's performance (which exceeded my expectations).
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#Ryzen #3700X
It begins
Oh golly
Red vs. Blue IRL. I really do like my 8700K... but man seeing the 3900X really makes me jealous about how far $500 can take you these days. That's how much I paid for six cores only a year ago.
Does anyone know if the test was run with the vulnerability patch for Intel cpus ?
The 9900k(14nm CPU, think about it for a second) is still the fastest gaming CPU in the world.
@@basshead. and your point is ?
short answer: yes
long answer: yeah
@Rommie Samboski same here 3700x here i come cant wait been a right royal pain checking qvl lists but ive got my build planned just gotta save
The longest answer: your physical being should indubitably, absolutely, must purchase this specific central processing unit.
Longest answer: YEEEAAAHH BOOOOOOOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
but for just gaming, would you really benefit from this over a 3600?
Smiley why did you make your comment so looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong
No background music. Thanks for that on this one. Sometimes it is just not needed.
What anime is that? Kaze no Yojimbo?
@@RamenRiderX Boku no pico
hear hear
@@Arthur-ow7ep stfu
Tell me about it
9900K costs 550€ here. The 3700X 370€. Performance differences is unnoticeable
Uria 64800 haha bruh theye are defently not unnoticible but i agree the price is too high, ur little and fan kid, and keep in mind 8700k is better for gaming than 9900k and 8700k was 360€ back then👍🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
@Shanu Proof? I don't trust a single word of that after seeing all these reviews of Zen+ CPU's. Also, don't forget that these are at a much lower price, compared to the 9900K (I myself purchased a 2700X a few days ago for my new/first PC, and it's awesome! I could've gotten a 3700X, but that would only be possible for me to buy around another 5-6 months later, and I needed a PC desperately)...
@@KROSKI_y man, one day u got to realize that 150 fps vs 140 doesnt change anything
Uria 64800 man one day u Will learn thats alot
@@KROSKI_y what do u mean ? in term of competitive gaming ? those game will run at much higher frame rate anyway
1-5 percent less in gaming costing 150 less with a cooler that is equal to hyper evo. Lmao sign me up
AMD's Value is still the best.
@@silverwerewolf975 5 percent and no all
@@silverwerewolf975 Someone's angry.
Silver Werewolf someones mad they’re losing.
@@silverwerewolf975 Intel is overpriced. Why are you sad if there's competition? Lol
Thank you for being one of the few reviewers (of the tech youtubers i follow at least) on YT that included OC benchmarks
Final a review that show's a comparison of the CPU's with OC. Thank you Science Studio !
You don't know aboot Gamers Nexus? Their benchmarks are way more in-depth than this.
@@MetricCrusader ofc i know about Tech Jesus. :)
At the time this Video was up they only had the R5 3600 review up but i wanted info on the 3900X/3700X.
Just picked up a R7 3700X today to retire my FX-8150 system :)
Nice!
Oh man I thought I held out to the bitter end, but dang dude!
Darn, I'm jealous, I have to retire my FX-4300 xD
I'm still running an A10 6800
I still have i7 860, almost ten years
This isn't the only benchmark video I will be watching lol
Yeah, though Greg or whatever is his name is really egotistical.
@@wtf3r Why?
@@Neiva71 Linus said in the WAN show that they had to do some last minutes updates, and he was mad AMD did the launch in the weekend.
Soo... maybe LTT included some last minute updates the others didn't bother checking.
@@Neiva71 You make it sound like LTT (and the LMG) is a bad source...
@@KoRNeRd wasn't that regarding Navi?
Wait, Ashes Of The Singularity is actually a game, not just a benchmarking tool? Who knew....
Haha
Tbh although universe sandbox does have a lot of value just being the simulator it is, it also serves as a great CPU stress testing tool lol
Its on sale right now for about 10 bucks on steam....
I believe Steve from Hardware Unboxed calls it Ashes of the Benchmark :D
Literally everyone knows this is a game
Here in Germany, the 3700X comes for around 349€ vs 9900K is on "sale" for 519€. In gaming i think AMD is the new bang for the buck!
Mindfactory. 9900k 482 Euro. You should use Geizhals for prices.
@@C42ST3N Argument still stands.
@@C42ST3N 133 dollars of difference... needs expensive cooling, motherboard...
@@Law0fRevenge i have not denide this. I just said that his prices are a bit off.
@uP-Andre Shooters as a benchmark? Where everything is random? Yeah, sounds like a fair comparison...
Also games like those avoid to preload assets and a single R/W operation from the disk could blow up all 1% low numbers... Don't be silly, we wanna know how they work, in fair situations...
gta 5 definitely show some scheduler issues showing 2 threads on 3700x pegged at 70+% while 3 threads on the 9900k reached 50+% and the remainder threads held a fair balance at or around 20-30% and didn't seem to fluctuate while many of the 3700x threads aren't even reaching 10% (aka idle) during the short clip we are shown
Hell yeah let's begin the benchaton !
Ryzen 7 3700x is the first CPU I've been content with. Mine holds 4.45ghz with stock voltage and an AIO keeps temps under 70c at all times, 3600mhz ddr4 gave me a huge boost in performance over 3000mhz that I wasn't expecting, and paired with a 2070Super the system is amazing for gaming and work loads. Can't wait for next gen
I found Hardware Unboxed to be the most serious review and the go to for extensive testing.
But I found yours to be hillarious.
Don't know if it was the commentary or the sudden jabs, but it was worth every minute. And plus, it was actually very informative and logic while being short and to the point.
You never cease to amaze Greg, keep it up men!
Nice review - I look forward to reviews to the x570 boards too with the new PCI-e 4.0 stuff, especially the cooling
It took me a while to notice in this video that the '3700x' was almost beating '9900k', every other benchmark showed '3900x' vs '9900k' which destroyed intel, robbed their family and left thank you mail for not competing.
Number 2 is not a winner and number 3 no one remembers
Now is $275 on Amazon 🤩🤩🤩 it's gonna be my first build I can't wait 🤩 after 8 years the last one was a core 2 quad 9550
Wow
I game at 1440p with it and love it.. won't wait until the next scoket comes out and it's cheaper like the 3700x is now before you update again.. cheers
GPU?
@@aaronanthony1363 I have the evga 1660 ti sc
@@pablogualo bruh we have the same cpu and gpu
Look forward to you testing on a x470 ! Nice one Greg , thx...
lol my friend just slipped me an edible and now im watching tbis for the 3rd time but im not high anymore
Lmaooo
you forgot the included heat sink, the wraith prism cooler is an excellent one, so if you add the cost of this cooler to 9900k/9700k, then AMD is more cheaper than the amount you mentioned.
This is amazing. And personally I’m planning on upgrading to a 1440p setup so the results would be even closer
Just started watching and already tapped like. 👍
Thanks for your hard work! Please keep it up.
Edit: I'd really love you to show some tests with a Ryzen 5 3600 CPU, but not an engineering sample. I know that I'm being picky. 😂
Great video Greg well i hope overclocking gets better for what i have seen OC isn't really good on other reviews like yours
i have 2700x and 2080 rtx, and i have 40-50 0.1% fps lows in PUBG, you have to "disable fullscreen optimizations" on pubg.exe files, or game stutters AF, before doing this my 0.1% fps were low af, at arround 30fps
keep this bumped
weird CPU choice... you bought it for gaming? :O
@@NiohNiohYT it's not a weird choice tho?
there's clearly something bad with your computer, I run PUBG at 130+ with everything at max 144 hz in a 2700x - rtx 2070.
@TacoMeat FijiWater there's no way that a 2700x bottlenecks a 2080, the 99,9% of the times, the bottleneck will be the gpu in games.
I had like 20 reviews in my subscriptions page about AMD CPU's, I choose you, this video better be good xD
What about watching them all ?
I am watching all reviews :D
@@TheMusicHeals.kjhjhhg Because it's about hoping that the video is good?
...and you come in Salazar video for listen good thing about AMD ? Eheheh. Here 2 word 9900k and 5Ghhhzzz. Infact 3700x compare to 9900k not with the direct i7 9700k what ryzen7 was designed for . Not surprised about this channel. 😏
its gimped all the way, he did the biggest noob mistake that one can do when benchmarking CPUs. He did it in a GPU bottleneck.
Great video! I am looking forward to the 3900× vs 9900k showdown!
YAY! The NDA ended! Now to go spend money I don't have!
Welcome to the hype train!
@@2lazy2think91 Thank you ladies and gentlemen for riding the Hype Train. Our next station is Guanghua Computer Mall for all your ...Ryzing needs. Mind the gap when exiting the train and remember that CPUs may look hotter than they appear. ;)
What's nda
@@bluevolt2014 Non-Disclosure Agreement. :)
@@MarcoGPUtuber why is the train ryzing.... This sounds dangerous
I'd really be interested to see the 3600 vs the 3700x
Same. They both actually seem like really great processors, but if the even more budget friendly 3600 isn't that far behind the r7, it would make a fantastic upgrade for those on older hardware with a budget
@@101styx7 3600 is definitely the best value available. 3600x is pointless since you can just OC the 3600. nobody needs more than 6 cores for gaming. you can also disable SMT and get performance gains. those 6 extra threads are unnecessary.
so many people are going to get the 3700x for just gaming when they don't even do anything that needs more than 4 cores. but that is kinda AMD's thing right now. cores cores cores more cores
@@Jon-nz3dm 3600 comes with a cooler as well
@@slappingvegans7940 i think the 3700x or 3700 also do. But im not sure.
@@Jon-nz3dm can 3600 stock cooler handle the overclock?
I don't mind the 9900k inclusion but the omission of 8700k or 9700k really breaks this review. There should have been core/thread vs core /thread or price vs price comparison. I understand if you don't have those chips but this is the tier it should be going against.
Isn't the 9900k better than the 8700k in about 99.5% in everything...
Which translates to the 3700 is better than the 8700k in about 100% of situations...
8700k has nothing to do here, it sucks compared to those cpus... and 9700k falls behind 9900k, which is 5% faster than 3700x. They just don't belong to this discussion.
@@ladrillorojo4996 watch this video ruclips.net/video/oDVUdpcKZMA/видео.html the 8700k/ 9700k and 9900k beat all of the ryzen chips almost in every real gaming benchmark.
@@ladrillorojo4996 They're similarly priced, and have similar gaming performance. How exactly do they not belong to a discussion of AMD vs Intel gaming CPUs at this price point?
Did you try reruning some of the benchmarks after the ryzen update? There was a boost clock issue that was apparently fixed with an update. I was wondering if yours might have been affected.
I ordered one yesterday, now I gottah wait for the delivery 😍 cannot wait
Nice! Thanks. Have to admit some of it was over my head, but I understood enough to choose the 3700X for my build. Thanks! (it would be All Greek to my husband) Oh, and I'm upgrading MB, too, because I'm coming from an AMD FX 8350. Yeah. Originally (8 years ago) it was a FX4100. Def time to upgrade.
I got my 3700X, I love it I would never ever overclock it. It is so powerful already for me.
they dont overclock very well anyway
@eraserheads78 thinking to buy one without GPU! Shall I go for it?
@@Subrajit there is no integrated gpu within the 3700x so you NEED a gpu to even get a picture
@@JT-qj2lj Yeap.. thank you.. btw I have already built my pc with R5 3600 and RTX 1650
@@Subrajit that’s a nice build man. Congrats! 🥳
THANK YOU for testing PUBG! That was the one game I was really thinking of when considering my upgrade, and no other reviewer included it.
still rocking my 6600k, but STRONGLY thinking 3700X sometime this year.
Kinda waiting to see what releases this year and dont want to do anything till Uni is over for the year lol
Hi Greg, congrats on being `the first” in my subscription list, at least, with the Ryzen 3 coverage. I don't know if you changed something with the camera or with the editing or if you got a new haircut but you look sharp AF and very professional. Keep it up ! ;)
I had to laugh at how overkill all the setup was except for loading the games off a basic HDD.
It would best to get SSD over HDD
@Spencer7445 _ Normally HDD is preferred for storing files that aren't needed but are still important, like pictures, videos, pdf, etc. Due to a larger Memory that are available
Using an Asus Crosshair VII MB, would going from my 1700X to a 3700X be worth the purchase in mostly gaming, lightroom and photoshop? Thanks
Did you overclock that ram? Your link takes me to 3000MHz ram.
Amd probably fixes optimization issues by updates
Im getting 3700x as soon as there back in stock GOOD JOB AMD !!!!!!!!!!!! now I can retire my 1700x u served me well.
I went in on an X370 Gaming Pro Carbon when Ryzen first launched expecting to splurge again for Zen 2. I'm fending for the 3900x and would like insight on that pairing. Thanks and great content as always!
There is a huge discrepency between reviewers' findings on the clock speed of these chips - especially the 3900x. Some reviews show ryzen pretty far behind the 9900k in some games..others like this one show it more of a toss up..I'm going to wait a bit to see if there are some bios updates that fix the chips not reaching advertised speeds etc. Anandtech recieved a new AGESA code for their mobo. Maybe they will find differences with the new code.
How about gaming and streaming at the same time?
I'm wondering if it's worth making the change of my ryzen 1700x to this 3700x.
ltt did one test in this senario showing big gains over the 2700x
You wonder that based on what? Do you have any form of problems with 1700x? Is it slow? Are you inable to maintain desired FPS while streaming? Also, if it shows big improvements over 2700X pretty sure that applies even more to your CPU.
JAMEXWOLF ummm yes? Wtf
@@sethgibson4155 why yes? Why wtf?
It's a huge improvement from that cpu, i would recommend selling that one fast lol
Why you comparing the 3700x with a 9900k , shouldn’t it be 3700x vs 9700k? Due to price point.
He discussed it in the video. He was testing to show how the 3700x can hang with the 9900k.
My current build is based on a Fairchild dr.qre.s1.2 Motherboard running 6 2.5 MHZ
Zilog Z-80 processors overclocked at 11.1 MHZ with liquid naquadah cooling.
It is running a windows 10 emulator based on a hybrid C/PM Linux kernel.
The GPU is an overclocked Raspberry PI model b merged with a Sinclair
running emulated directX 12 through a highly modded Atari Amiga platform
with a couple of D-Wave quantum inducers providing extra kick. Thing's
A Beast -(It uses the Josephson junction effect with the Enochian AI language
thanks Anthony Patch for the idea!)
I was thinking about upgrading to the 68020 or the 68030
but that Rhyzen 3600 is looking pretty sweet.
The only thing that worries me is whether or not the quantum bio-nanites
will be able to correctly synthesize their Sigma-1 given that the 223 amino acid
build is an inverse harmonic of the 3600 infinity fabric's bus resonance.
Anyone run into this problem?
Dude as soon as you started talking I subbed lmao. Good stuff.
Shame AMD couldn't get us these CPUs in laptops with high-end GPUs a while back. I had to go with the i7-9700K.
Bought my 3700x back in December while my friend got the 9900k. I feel better about my purchase now.
Amd your friend has 100fps more
@@cakanac7555 100 FPS? More like maybe 20
@@leovl1697 when u oc that 9900k, u get 100fps plus in cpu intesive games like bf 5
@@cakanac7555 Thats if its heavily OC. mambobro never even mentioned OCing here.
@@leovl1697 lol, its 2 click oc to 5ghz. And who buys k cpu and dont oc it?
Very good video. To the point, no fluff. I just subscribed.
haven't watched it yet but from the research i've done, my understanding is that if you just want to game then the 3600X is good enough for that. however, if you want to stream also then you should get the 3700X because streaming actually requires the additional performance provided by it. that's just what i've read about it.
9900k 5.0GHZ no heat issues? Ok he mentioned the cooling solutions for the bench marks.
A dissent AIO 240/280mm do the job ,cost about 100box so the price for 9900k lift to almost 600$,but here we not look the cost right ?? If so, why the hell ,the 9900k is in this comparative ????
@@matttiaz7576 Chill
Can u use the x470 gaming 7 wifi o the 3700x?
yes.
Yes with a bios update
Just picked up this cpu! Excited to build my new pc
Sheesh, this dude is thorough as hell. Nice job!
The ram links to a 3000c16 kit, doesn't match what you say in video "3.6ghz"
He probably overclocked the ram. My 3000mhz runs 3200 on my ryzen 1600 with x370 board so it I could easily see 3600mhz on this kit.
Wow the 3700x vs the 2700x reminds of intels old “Tick-Tock” 🤛
Did you also test temperatures with stock cooler? I am curious how that does, since I am kind of interested in getting 3700X, but still can't decide if I should upgrade cooler or not. I am mainly curious for gaming of course.
how did you like the AORUS MASTER i am thinking about buying it but there are no reviews out for it yet.
Gonna run with the 1700 for a little longer. I wanna see what Ryzen 4th gen will bring to the table next year.
Rumours for Zen 3 are a further 10% IPC gain, 3 or 4 way multi-threading and 3D die staked memory on the CPU. Maybe even an increase is core counts again for up to 20 cores. To be taken with a grain of salt of course.
@@grizzly6699 Now that's a huge fantasy. I believe the ipc gain could be true, but 3 or 4 way multi threading? and 3d cpu? Don't be silly, there's no need for that, they are just gonna make zen 2 get higher frequencies and higher IPC. I don't think they would change such architecture so easily after launching it...
@@ladrillorojo4996 Microchips keep getting smalller and smaller. One day we can't go smaller. Maybe no less than 2nm, but nobody knows how small we can go. When this happens how do we get more transistors in the same footprint on a CPU or GPU to improve performance and add new features? Like when a city runs out of room to grow, it goes up. Samsung's 3D *VNAND* has been doing this for almost half a decade and so has AMD's *HBM or High Bandwidth Memory (3D stacked DRAM)*. In fact, all current SSDs from many other manufacturers do use 3D NAND memory technology. Intel has a 3D die stacking technology project called *Foveros*, *look these up online*. It's also been discovered that AMD has filed a patent for cooling a 3D die stacked microchip. Heat dissipation is a well known problem with 3D stacking.
The 3D die stacked microprocessor is a real thing that will come to market when we can't shrink manufactoring processes anymore.
Also, the *Xeon Phi* series of processors from Intel have 4 way Simultaneous Multithreading. Look at Wikipedia, they have a list of these Xeon Phi chips, such as the Xeon Phi 5120D that has 60 cores and 240 threads.
If the technology already exists why can't it be implemented into a consumer product?
Why is all this technology I mentioned (that was rumoured to *maybe* be included in Zen 3) a *"huge fantasy"?* It's all actually very real, well documented and in use right now in one form or another.
any reason why no-one is reviewing the Ryzen 7 3800X?
It's because the 3800x didn't get sampled. Reviewers only got sampled the 3700x and 3900x.
That's also why gamer's Nexus was the only one to do a 3600 review on launch day.
They had a source that was able to get them a retail chip early so they could test it.
Great video, thanks for posting....
I guess for lots of gamers it'll be a toss up between this and the 3900 series...
Sweet
Thanks for your video.
I been eyeing up the 3700x and yea definitely all I will need and I wouldn't even bother overclocking. I will definitely be using 3600mhz ram too.
Ryzen delivers!
Clean install after CPU upgrade isn't that bad if you think about X370/X470, B450/B350 still supporting Ryzen 3000.
*Meanwhile at the Intel headquarters*
Yeah, you will need a new motherboard, because yeah, ehm yeah power delivery!
@Science Studio I did a lot of testing in PUBG myself and noticed that your 0.1% lows are typical for a problem introduced in the first Creators Update of Windows 10. When this and the following versions of Windows 10 cache enough files that none of the RAM in the system is "free" then you will occasionally see 50ms long stutters.
The dev of DDU released the program "ISLC" which provides a workaround for this problem. Maybe you could test it the next time you bench. If the RAM was actually full during the test then you could expect your 0.1 lows to be ~30 FPS higher.
It would be interesting to see you do another comparison with the 3700x at just 4Ghz. Because there were multiple benchmarks where the 3700x did worse at 4.3 than it did at stock. Maybe it was too much?
9900K :slap a expensive cooler on it then you got the performance king
3700X:rocks on cheap b450/x470 board and included wraith cooler
exactly why i will never build an intel cpu
Filetsteak lol I saw your comments on a bunch of benchmarks and now I see you here 😂 just ordered my 2070 super gaming oc and my 3700x today gonna manually over clock my gpu and have a great time streaming cheers!
@@chinnerchilla nice
@@chinnerchilla is this cpu good for gaming too?
loo93sh Star yes very.
The processor is so fast, that the video just starts right away.
10:48 @Greg Salazar... did you in fact use the Kraken x62 (280mm) during testing or did you mean to say Kraken x72 (which would be the 360mm AIO from NZXT)?
been using this with 32gbs of ram and a Nvidia rtx 2070 using a 4k monitor for 2 years... works amazingly still on games, building games on unreal and unity, and editing videos with premiere and after effects. I definitely recommend this cpu.
Greg, I really like that 3700X. Nice content dude
I got this CPU plus a MSI RX 5700 XT Gaming X with it as my end-of-year gift, i hope it turns on well for actual gaming
some one you wont regret it! I just built that same pc for my cousin a few months back.
@@Slowfi_wrx you don't even know which board he has
Filetsteak the board doesn’t really matter. Don’t be ignorant. Any newer motherboard will suffice.
@@Slowfi_wrx I have never said it is important
Filetsteak so explain the point of your comment?
Good idea I’ll check the graphs
is this cpu good for streaming and if not which cpu would you match with the rtx 3060 ti with streamlabs open on a second monitor
Once the prices drop significantly for Zen 2 in another year, I might just snag the 3700X.
yup they are at launch price atm in about 2-3 months they are gonna be off with like 50-60$
I'm waiting until 2021 before I upgrade anything my 2600x and 2700x will do until then and my rx 570 8 gb is fine too until then!
All the videos about those cpu's came at the same second
Because of the Embargo, which did End right in this second
They must’ve pre uploaded and scheduled the videos to come out the exact moment the embargo lifted.
What's embargo
@@danver5622 Amd obliges reviewers to not upload their videos until a certain date and hour, that being one or two hours ago idk. I'm pretty sure they signed a contract
@@danver5622 And another thing, I'm from spain, and it's curious that embargo in english is the same as in spanish
I’d like to see some of these CPU’s tested with mid range cards like the RX590 or 1660Ti.
9:51 Save around 100-150 bucks? Isn't it more? After the CPU Cooler cost? I mean you won't be able to run 9900K at 5 GHz and stress test it with stock cooler or low end CPU Cooler.
Edit: And did you apply all the security fixes for the Intel CPUs?
Yeah if you want that sweet 5ghz, you're gonna need at least a $90 cooler. If you go water, you're looking at $150.
Based on all the benchmark i see i can for certain say all the high end X570 motherboard not really worth it.
Yeah I was sold on getting a X570 board but with such a minor amount of overclocking headroom, I am of going with a B450 and not even bothering with overclocking.
Yeah I'm going x470 if you can't utilise the pcie 4.0 I dont see the point in the x570
Well you can't change the MoBo much if you want it to be compatible w/ the older gen
@@bengaming3649 just remember that they're having bios problems atm with those boards.
For workstation use they ARE worth it. Raid nvme at 7 gigs a second does wonders to data analysis, virtualization, and video editing thanks to pci express 4
for a second i thought the blurred spinning gpus ilghts were cop lights
Hey man, you're the only one who's tested games that aren't 'mainstream' and largely pointless for CPU tests. Do you think you could give the Zen2 processors a shot at things like SpaceEngine, Kerbal Space Program, Arma 3, Civilisation V and an emulator such as RPCS3? All of these are *incredibly* CPU intensive and will yield very interesting results. I'd be very interested in how the 3900X fairs with its 12 cores in simulations like Universe Sandbox and SpaceEngine.
soooo....why compare 3700x with 9900k ,and not with 9700k ? (same price point market no ?)
Because it kept up with the 9900K, which is a better processor and considerably more expensive. Reveals just how good the 3700X is from a value perspective.
@@GregSalazar you should ping this comment i was wondering the same thing.
@@SavageBodybuilding he states in the video description
If you want to stream 3700X, otherwise 3600. Intensive video edit : 3900x.
Really liked this review over the others with price point. 8c/16t vs 8c/16t cause price point change. The overclocking + stock comparison was also what I was looking for along with overclocking headroom (or lack there of). 10/10 vid. Hit every important point I wanted to actually look for. Gaming results were interesting as well but with 0.7ghz difference, the obvious favor and winner would be 9900k if disregarding the pricing.
Waiting for a R7-3800X review, seems like no know has done one yet. Everyone wants to do the R5-3600, R7-3700X and R9-3900X. Please show the 3800X some love too. So the base clock of the 3800X is 300MHz faster, Turbo speed is only 100MHz faster. I'd be curious to see if the 3800X can do a little better during overclocking.
It looks like AMD has basically done all the binning.... DerBaur is reporting that without exotic cooling, overclocking is basically a big IXNAY. 50-100 MHz more is the best we will get, and all-cores best-case will be lower than the single-core turbo. In that respect, the 3600X or 3700X is probably the way to go if you are on a budget, and the 3900X if you aren't.
The 9900K is still the gaming king, it seems, but the margins are so narrow that it is clear AMD will take the crown as games continue to evolve into using more cores efficiently. And, man.... throw any non-gaming multi-core workload at the AMD and it completely blows Intel away. The 9900K's price way out of line, now.
We need more formalized power consumption numbers at the wall for all of these benchmarks, too. I like the numbers you threw out but I'd like to see a consumption graph, or an average, for each game, for both Intel and AMD.
-Matt
"but the margins are so narrow that it is clear AMD will take the crown as games continue to evolve into using more cores efficiently" Umm, no?
Yeah agree with the guy above me. 9900k will hold the crown until Intel's next gen cpus, considering 3700x and 9900k have the same core count. Unless you're banking on 3900x taking the crown, but these cpus will be long outdated before we're getting games that take advantage of over 16 threads.
Well, keep in mind that games went from 2 cores to 4 cores to 6 cores and now to 8 cores minimum for maximum performance. Some games are already using all cores available. They are clearly getting more threaded.
From a programmer's point of view, hard-coding thread assignments was more typical when the thread count was low, but with the thread count now at 8+ game engines are starting to get coded more dynamically, to handle however many threads the system has. There is still clearly a learning curve both for Microsoft's scheduler and for game engine thread scheduling, but it isn't as though it would be spectacularly complex to understand.
Given the pressures involved we are probably talking less than 2 years now. And we are likely to see a round of optimizations directed at 3900X game play even sooner. LTT noted more inefficient microsoft thread bouncing by its scheduler, for example. And, keep in mind, half of those game benchmarks are running old games that do not reflect current or upcoming game development trends.
So if you want to future-proof your system, the 9900K is probably not the answer any more.
-Matt
But the 9900k isn't "still the king." There are other sites showcasing driver updates and sometimes the 3700x is flat out winning. Besides, if you had the computers side-by-side, without benchmark software running, you would never know which one is which.
In anything non-gaming? The AMD does present real-world and noticeable gains. It runs hilarious circles around the 9900k.
All for $150 less.
yeah i agree. its why i ended up upgrading to a 3700x because my 3600 wasnt going to oc on air and a good liquid i minds well just upgrade the cpu and well im glad i did. 3700x is a faster cpu even in single thread and sadly they got all the mhz out to where all core overclocks some how gets lower performance than stock. you really just have to invest in the motherboard have it auto oc to get best results.
Hardware Unboxed shows you get less performance when you manually overclock these chips. let PBO do it and the performance is better.
I literally showed this in two videos within a week.
Re-visit the benchmark in 6 months once the bios are fully optimized to see if there are any significant increase or difference compared to this initially released bios.
God i want it so much amazon come on and bring them back! looking like every hour!
Why are you comparing a 3700x with 9900k you have to campare 3700x with 9700k and 3900x with 9900k🤦♂️
Just to make clear,Intel is milking us...
The 3900x and 3700x are finally obliterating Intel offerings. Now on all bases and aspects. I will be going with the 3900x when I rebuild my machine later this year to upgrade, been long time previous Intel user.
Greg, when I watched this video a few times last year this time, a had a 2700x. This video convinced me to get a 3700x, which I have now. And I couldn't be happier. Thank you!~And btw, now in 2020 the 3700x can be had for $259. I still feel it's worth it over the new XT series.
So how do you feel about the 3600X for $249.00? Seems like a good budget price but what does it compare to the 3600 no one has a bench of all the cpus yet.
Simply said, don't really need to overclock ryzen chips, and they're eking eerily near to the 170 dollar more expensive 9900k. Intel really need to up their game. They've been too comfortable in this near monopoly for the past decade.
Very true
More like no oc headroom at all.
@@haonanzhang6759 Yup, you're right. The chiplet design doesn't give a whole lot of room for OC. But to be honest, Ryzen is still very competitive against OCed Intel chips at the same price point.
@@michaelmao6180 I am thinking about buying them next year tbh. First gen ryzens are terrible at oc when they first launched also, but the chips you buy now have better oc results.
@@haonanzhang6759 I didn't know that. It's probably a good idea to wait. I have a Ryzen 2700 last thanksgiving. They work perfectly well for me and I see no reason to upgrade them right now.
You forgot to mention that even though 3700x doesnt have an iGPU atleast it comes with a decent cooler. So overall its a better value than i9 9900k with added CPU cooler.
That is very true. A cooler suitable for the i9 9900k costs at the low end around $100CAD or $80 USD, for something like a Noctua NHD15 or double that for a Corsair H115I pro.
Should i get 3700x or 3800x its only a £20 difference right now because of sale
@@wawwaw7351 3700X as the performance difference between the two is negligible.
If I'm spending $300 on a CPU, I wouldn't hesitate to spend $30 on a quieter, more efficient cooler. And for what I do, the lack of an iGP is a bigger deal than a stock cooler.
@@GregSalazar You replied after almost 11 months lmao :D.
BTW, I still stand by what i said 11 months ago. :)
More people need to try disabling SMT for gaming. There are actually performance benefits quite often when those extra threads are disabled.
Tip for everyone: Get an ssd for windows and drivers, use your second drive for software, games etc
I know I’m halfway through this video but I automatically trust everything you ever say because you also hate fortnite as much as I do. 👌🏾
You suck at fortnite. Nub.