She Can't Get Hired Because Of Her Tattoos?
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
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In todays video we take a look at a recent viral TikTok where a woman called Ash talks about the fact she didn't get hired and she thinks its because of her tattoos!
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If she got rejected at the automated email stage prior to an interview, there’s a good chance her resume just didn’t get past the automated filters. It’s a huge problem.
That is true. I would apply again honestly
yea it seemed like it was previous to interview for me too, so i was pretty confused as to how they could even know she has tattoos?? i guess social media but again i think thats later in the process
Yeah, it was likely she just didn't ass the personality test. Oh sorry, "assessment" test. (I've seen the result break downs on mime before. They're literally personality tests. Whether or not you get a job is determined by a quizilla test.)
@@fairythegaywhowearstoomuch3039 it can actually be pretty quick and before they take a real look at your app. While I think she failed the personality qui, I knew someone that once didn't hire a man because via stalking his fb and insta they saw his wife is black and they have biracial children together. They even stalked HER fb amd insta to see if she posted anything they didn't agree with (politics, religion, stuff like that.) It's commonly used to discriminate against potential employees because they can claim they had no way of knowing the person is a POC or what their religion is, if they're a single parent, if they're disabled what have you because they never saw them.
I've talked to a couple different people that quit jobs becauae the change to the social media policy was that their manager was to have the PASSWORDS to all their social medias. Not just like they manage the company's account, like their personal and private accounts. I once talked to someone that got fired because they refused to not make their fb account public. (The reason marked down was for "insubordination".) And being a fairly decent sized influencer she would've been very easy to find.
The old hiring manager at the bookstore I work at would look people up on Facebook before making a decision to interview them or not. That could possibly be what happened here too. Idk.
I imagine her arrogant attitude is preventing her employment.
That's exactly what I thought.
Or she acts like this outside of work
Her social media presence (especially what she posts on IG) definitely doesn't help
^^ this. As someone actively trying to hire 2 people and struggling to find employees. I would turn her down just because she seems like she’d bring everyone down
@@maylagesse how much are you offering an hour?
She's immature and arrogant. Even if she had no tats or piercings, she still would be arrogant and probably have trouble getting a job because of her attitude.
yeah id imagine her doing the same exact thing regardless of her looks lol ... going to the store to make a fuss about not getting hired because how can someone else possibly be a better candidate?! no this HAS to be personal.
I worked at a TJ Maxx all through high school. I had a ton of co-workers who were heavily and visibly tattood. Face piercings, neck tattoos, you name it. I highly doubt her looks are why she didn't get hired. Plus, it's not like she sent in a picture with her application sooo... the math isn't mathing.
Someone said that it may have been just an issue of her resume not being accepted since she got an automated email, and I genuinely believe that's what it is
I saw this earlier today and in the article she says the first time they saw her was when she went in to ask why she didn’t get the job. She was denied before they even saw her! She is just using this for attention.
I did catch that while editing but then thought maybe she misspoke 😭
that's... a very strange type of rejection to make public about yourself and also about your appearance...
I suppose it is possible they searched her and found her content and rejected her for her body modifications, but it's impossible to tell. It's super common to be rejected before even getting an interview for no reason other than there were other candidates better suited to the role. Seems like she's making a significant assumption or using the experience for clout.
They could have looked at her data footprint 🤷🏻♀️ but I personally wonder his she dressed when she asked the management for feedback.
Yeah I have to say, most retail stores have online applications and most people who apply don't bother go to inside and inquire about the job these days. She was rage baiting.
When I got my first tattoo, in 1995, my mother absolutely lost her MIND, convinced I would NEVER get hired ANYWHERE!!!
... The tattoo was a SMALL (maybe 1" square) astrological sign. On my upper breast. 😐
I told her that if the hiring manager was LOOKING DOWN THE FRONT OF MY SHIRT, that I PROBABLY wouldn't want to work for them anyway😂
LOL!!!!
In 1997 my dad let me get my ears pierced a 2nd time (I was 13).
When my mom saw it, she freaked out saying that I was never going to be able to get a job looking like that. She roughly took them out of my ears saying that I would thank her when I was older and it was for my own good.
I never got them re-pierced (I’m thinking about doing it this year even though I’m over 40-years-old) and I still have the scars from it.
She hit the roof when my brother got his first tattoo in around 2001.
She also insisted that he’d never be able to get a job, but he now has one leg covered and a half-sleeve and he’s the least tattooed guy at his workplace.
@@Annie_Annie__ hey!!! I just wanted to say that you should go for it and get those piercings if you like them! My mom got her first visible facial piercing(she already had multiple ear piercings and a tongue piercing) in her late 50s!!! At 60 she finally got her septum pierced because she had been wanting it for 40 years 😄
If tattoos can be easily hidden with clothing, the hiring manager won't care. Tattoos on the chest, shoulders, back and upper thighs and upper arms are no trouble to hide as with pretty much ALL jobs, you have to keep those areas covered anyway. Those are safe places to have them if you don't want a hiring manager to reject you. But on the lower arms and calves, that gets a little tricky. You would have to wear long sleeves and pants/skirts or a thick stockings with a short skirt.
I remember once on "Family Feud" I saw a woman in a short mini dress with a big tattoo on one of her calves but her legs were pretty pale so I'm guessing her boss makes her conceal that tattoo at work, probably with long pants.
@@Cat-ch2xeThat's awesome! I love it when older people finally get something like a tattoo or a piercing that they've wanted for so long. Also, septum piercings look great on everyone. 😁
So entitled! She's mad she got an automated email response that she didn't get hired? Oh honey, I was job searching for a year straight during the early pandemic, nobody bothers to tell you they aren't interested! They'll even email you 9 months later to set up an interview, without asking if you're still looking.
So mad that she haressed some poor retail workers over this.
She is right about the systemic issues with trying to get an entry level job.
I would have researched brands and chosen one that are tattoo friendly. I worked briefly at Pottery Barn (~2006), and had to take my nose ring out. But you also could only wear black, brown, cream, white, or navy blue - and no prints! Not even stripes. Some places just have a stick up their butts about dress code
She didn't NEED it, but she went in to ask why she didn't get hired. This makes no sense.
Personally, I think she was trying to make a point and shame the store manager. Like she knows full well why they didn't hire her.
This is what I was thinking. She doesn’t _need_ that job, but it bothered her so much that they didn’t hire her that she went in to the store specifically to confront the manager?
She either needed that job or she wanted to harass the manager and drive the point home that she was “discriminated against” because of her tattoos.
Or both.
I don't think that ever happened lol plus if she just sent in an application, how did they even know she was tattooed? Or is it a normal thing to submit a photo in the US?
@@lucyjane3803 where I live a photo is usually required, but I'm in Italy.
@@lucyjane3803 in 20+ years of working these kind of jobs in the US I have never been asked for a photo with an application. The only way someone would know what I look like before the interview would be if they used my name and info to find my social media - however a lot of employers in the US will look into your social media so that is a possibility here. I've also worked retail management for years and would say "experience" is a pretty generic response. If there's nothing in their policy about tattoos or piercings, the mgr would likely never admit if that was their reason, they would just make up something vague like "we hired a more experienced candidate"
I personally could never fathom walking into a store to ask why they didn’t hire me but if that works for her then go ahead lol
tbf a lot of job coaches and stuff recommend sending an email asking for pointers or any problems with your application so i assume that’s what she was aiming for?
@@macyrowles7133 idk the way she describes it sounds more like she was confronting them, not trying to get pointers.. Asking them "it's because of the tattoos isn't it?" Definitely doesn't seem like she's trying to get advice, it seems like she's trying to call them out and put them on the spot.
She brags about how much money she has but mentioned being in debt in her first video. No one’s saying you can’t treat yourself when you’re in debt, it’s unrealistic to pay it off all at once. But the list of expenses she rattled off doesn’t prove having money it proves being irresponsible with it. She’s 2 years older than me, I have 11 tattoos and my mom thinks it’s too much, I should send this to her 😂
Balling is having no car payment.....just saying 💁♀💁♀My old baby is not a brand new car but no payment!
Fr, she's 23! I'm the same age and I've never had money problems, but I sure as hell don't have the money for that many tattoos! Where tf is she getting that from?? And why the TJ Maxx job at all if she makes so much money? I'm so confused.
@@bigb853 same my old Toyota Corolla gets the job done
@@graceraimo777 yeah girl! 777 all the way💖💖🧿🧿
No need. It's easily explained. She really wants to be an influencer and they usually try to show off a desirable lifestyle. Hence lying about affluence and taking loans. For most it doesn't work out and they need a real job.
Her tattoos are quite intense as well as being very full coverage, they’re hardly flowers and bunnies. So there is potentially a dual issue with the tattoos; both the face and neck, and also the theme of the tattoos chosen.
What she didn’t say in her TikTok is that her public Instagram has bondage pictures in lingerie which may also be a reason retailers like tjmaxx would hire someone else
digital footprints lol
Not 100 percent not every job asks for social media during application process .
@@yassine8935 for sure, I just found this factoid out (and verified by going to look at her Instagram) from someone who happens to work at tjmaxx who said their store at least does check social media.
@@yassine8935 They might not ask for it, but theyll still look up your name in background checks
Also not a valid reason not to hire someone.
Those are hard aggressive tattoos for a national retailer, how can she be surprised?
She needs to increase her skill, there’s hundreds of ppl applying for unskilled labor. Go back to school, take a certification. I work in mental health & addictions and have a team lead with full face tattoo
Unskilled labour is not a useful way to phrase that
Im pretty sure at some point she was told getting face tats will probably impact her work opportunities. She choose to do it anyway. So she will have to figure it out.
Yep, that's why a lot of tattoo artist still won't tat hands face and neck unless you're already covered.
Yes!
12:31 My jaw literally DROPPED when you said she was only 23
Same - it's a lot for someone so young! But I did think she was older.
same i thought she was 35 😵
I'm 23 and had the same reaction. Holy moly.
Hard to believe she is that young when she is also using filler which would already make her look younger. She genuinely looks like someone in their mid 30s, which is no shade whatsoever. If she is in fact lying about her age it is kind of irrelevant but I am a nosy bish, lmao.
@@Itri_Vega fillers are for grandma's
Literally it's supposed to be for 70 yo to look like 50 yo
If you're in your 20s or 30s getting fillers it makes you look OLDER
Something about that puffy face they get when trying to fix their nonexistent wrinkles makes them look like they're 40+
And the younger you are the worse the effect is (so a 20 yo with filler will look older than a 30 yo with filler, one will look like they added 28 years while the other added 12 years)
At least she got the automated rejection email! Most places don’t even bother with that…
I'm also alternative with ink and piercings but I can honestly say I would be apprehensive in hiring her as well. It's the imagery for me. She would be working with the public and some of those images would rub some of the public the wrong way. She would be representing the store and that has to be considered. She also comes across like a troll and tone deaf.
Exactly. Like the creepy spider and the demonic goat just make me uncomfortable, and a physical bias is inevitable when you're trying to find work. She has a very aggressive style, and while there's no shame in it she should have some accountability in what she decides to permanently tattoo on her body.
It's wild to me that someone would choose to tattoo a creepy baby spider thing on their throat and face and then moan about not being hired for a customer service job, and I have tattoos.
She said in her first video you showed she wanted the job for extra money to pay down her debt, there's definitely a disconnect with financial understanding with this girl. If you have debt and yet you are going out and shopping and getting tattoo and cosmetic surgery and have an expensive car, then do you really have "plenty of money"? I could understand if the debts were medical/school/necessities and still wanted to enjoy life and treating yourself a little while you pay those down, but this doesn't seem like the case for her, but I don't have TikTok and I don't know her situation, but it's definitely how it's coming off. I was taught growing up not to use your credit card if you don't already have the money, and if you need to use it, pay it off as soon as possible.
This.
I find it wild that there are fully tattooed medical professionals out there but yet tattoos on a potential tj maxx employee are unacceptable
Because in the medical field you need to have had training and people understand this.
In a random shop a manager will take on people who look like they'd be good for retail.
Medical field is a skilled profession lol
@@Chillduesunflowur what’s your point? There’s plenty of boomers out there who would see a tattooed nurse/doctor and say I WILL NOT HAVE THEM TOUCH ME
@@Snakesnarlthen they can stay sick 😂
I’m the ex husband 😂 to ash
She said in her first video that she wants to pay down her debt quicker. This is why she applied at TJMaxx. So, if she has debt to pay off, then she does need the money. That second video was her pride flexing, which never leaves a good impression. Who boasts about having breast implants and fillers?!
If she has to pay off debts, then she shouldn't be spending her money on frivolous things like tattoos and piercings.
And Hello Kitty merch@@alexanderpytko5394
A reasonable rule of thumb would be that, if an image wouldn’t fly if you’d hang it on the wall at your place of work, it doesn’t fly as a visible tattoo either.
Like, the grim reaper can be cool, but not on anyone in healthcare. Nudity doesn’t have to be a problem, just not on a kindergarten teacher. Nothing wrong with a demon on you, but is not great on a pastoral worker, now, it is?
And if the job prohibits the expression of any individuality during work hours (judges, cops, military), that includes tattoos. It would be absurd to have, say, a crucifix on show, when you wouldn’t be allowed one on a necklace, right?
I genuinely doubt it was **just** the tattoos. Retail companies are really loosening up their tattoo restrictions. I’m not saying they didn’t play a role (because the ones she has are going to be alienating to prejudiced customers), but it could be the tattoos combined with her demeanor and lack of experience. She doesn’t come off as a particularly warm person. By itself it isn’t necessarily a problem-but from an employer perspective she’s coming off as a bit of a gamble to hire. She could be a great worker, or she could be a lot of work to train only for her to dip out in two months when she decides she’s done earning her extra cash.
Also, if she does have money but an employment gap on her resume they’re going to be asking questions and maybe making assumptions (rightly or wrongly) about how she’s earning that money. Just from her videos there are a lot of red flags that tell me it’s not just the tattoos that made her ineligible.
i totally agree
She reminds me of a customer I had at a store once. Heavily modded goth couple. I was checking them out and I told the lady I liked her tats to make small talk. She rolled her eyes and said something rude about my appearance.
It's not the tats, it's the way this chick holds herself. When you work customer service long enough, you get good at reading people's body language and she reads bad attitude all over.
at this point the tattoos are really not the problem. at this point it is more about life choices, common sense etc.
if you are heavily tattooed and ask "is it about my tattoos??"
yeah it probably is.
Looking at her instagram, the fact that shes got nude pictures up for the public to see I feel like her tattoos would only be a factor, not the reason. A combination of her social media presence + the tattoos + the attitude shes shown in these tiktoks would lead to a very obvious no.. Obviously her presence in the media and her tattoos are fully her choice, but acting like its strange she isnt easily accepted is ignorant and as you said it: out of touch...
So...she has no proof she wasn't hired because of her tattoos, and I think anyone interviewing her for any job would quickly realize she has an attitude problem, which probably is a much bigger obsticle for finding a job in retail than anything on her face. Tattoos or no tattoos, she's going to struggle finding a job, especially in customer service - but it's great that she doesn't need one.
I'm 70 years old and employers wanted experience when I was a teenager, and it was not a new thing then, either, It takes effort to get a job. Your first job, that you use to get experience, is hardly ever the one you want to stay with long term. Tattoos that cannot be concealed by clothing, facial piercings and gauges can make your job search harder. I would say present at interviews in clothing similar to what you see others in that type of store or business wearing to work. Be professional, friendly and confident in your abilities -- approachable. Many interviewers will be at ease with you and many won't. Try researching "inclusive employers" and see what comes up. I was a general manager for 30 years. Many times, local managers must adhere to the company's dress code standards, no matter what their personal feelings are. But I have also seen big changes in dress code standards over the decades. I would say to young people, be respectful in an interview and show them who you are behind the tattoos and piercings. Good luck to all!
Lauren, one should never do age maths. It’s always too shocking and traumatic. 😂😂
Honestly I nearly passed away on the spot 😂
@@treacletatts I'm still stuck in the year when I was 17! Especially after Covid my brain thinks I've stopped ageing haha
Mainland Europe here, from my experience, only hand and face/head tattoos are jobstoppers in 'normal' jobs. One of the surgeons that has operated on me multiple times has a full sleeve. I don't have tattoos, but i do have flashy and bold hair colours. I'm an independent dressmaker, and while a lot of clients give me funny looks at first, my work speaks for itself. And alot of them tell me they have changed their notion of alternative people.
It's basically the same in the US. There is something about face/hand tattoos that take things to a new level. Especially because many people in this country who have them, are gang related tattoos. It perpetuates those as a line people don't cross.
My friend works as a prison officer and has a skull sleeve, they applied for the police but was rejected based on the tattoos being skulls not because of the tattoos alone. They said skulls relate to gangs. I didn’t know this about the skull tattoo
That's Interesting considering how many cops have punisher tattoos. 🤔
@@HonestMagpie but are these sleeves that the public will be able to see?
As far as I'm aware in germany people working for the police aren't allowed to have visible tattoos and if they have, they have to cover them. It's the same for a lot of private security jobs here
I'm conflicted on this one too. I waited until I was literally 30 years old to get my first tattoo and within 2 years I have gotten my sleeves hands and right palm done. I waited to get these tattoos until I was very far along in my career and was basically indispensable in a field that is in demand. I work extra hard and I always try to show up 200% because I do feel the need to validate my existence in these spaces.
I wrote to my HR before my first tattoo, back of palm and inside palm just to be sure because I was so afraid of the work element. The face tattoos are too much for even someone as "good" at their job as I am.
By experience, no one cares about face tattoos unless they are crazy on many other levels
I’ve been trying to find a job for 6 months I have a degree and a good amount of experience (also no visible tattoos or piercings) and I’m talking about entry level customer service jobs but every position has 100s of applicants
It's a hard market right now.
I have several friends that just got their engineering degrees (different fields, not CS), have extra certifications and can't get jobs in their chosen fields for the past 4-6 months.
@@W.Rain. my brother also has degrees that should make him hireable (i dont know how to that this but like in France, big degrees are qualified as "Bac+5", meaning you did 5 years of uni or college to obtain a degree. Bac (baccalauréat) is the exam u take at the end of highschool, so bac+5 is you finished highschool succefully and have a masters degree) AND he couldnt find a job so he is back in studies, so at the end of the road he'll have as much years of studies as a fcking doctor in order to find a job being a highschool teacher. The job market suck everywere.
Honestly an employer can choose not to hire you for pretty much any reason and they really don’t have to give you a reason. You are asking them for a job, they can choose not to give it to you.
Yes and no… discrimination exists and isn’t ok… if your concerns are based on an individual not being able to fulfill the job requirements and expectations, don’t hire them… but if the only reason is their appearance, that’s blatant discrimination…
@heatherkeegan3148
I could see it as discrimination if it was mistreatment for a reason she could not control like say, gender or race, but not for her own decisions to change her physical appearance.
Otherwise, she would have been fine without the tattoos or maybe if they weren't offensive to some groups of people.
I have seen people that work at my local Marshall's where one lady had a really pretty big rose tattoo on the side of her neck when she was ringing my items up and she was the manager.
I feel like it might be more like prejudice, they were pre-judging her based on the tattoos, and didn't think to give her a chance to see if she was an honest/hard worker because of the tattooed images might drive potential sales away.
I'm sorry but if someone walked into my business and wanted the front desk/receptionist job but had a big ol WWII symbol plastered on their forehead it would be a big nope. But not because it was a tattoo, it would have been the subject of the image tattooed.
@@RandomAnagram. I agree there are acceptable tattoos and there are ones that are going to be offensive to people. I’d hire someone with a rose on their neck but not a hate symbol in the same spot.
I’m conflicted on this. To a degree I think you have to consider this when you decide to get so fully tattooed. Some will just look at you sideways. Is it right? Nope. There’s a million reasons to not get hired. I have friends would got visible tattoos on knuckles and necks because “they never wanted a normal job” at least that was the excuse they gave 😆 I have another friend who is completely tattooed to his neck, ankles and wrists full body but in a suit you’d have no idea underneath he’s tattooed at all. These are just all things to consider. There are lots of places that like tattoos too. I’m ranting now
"it just depends" should be the motto of empoyment with tattoos... because... it does just depend on the employer, the time, the place, and the context... welp...
@@nightcoreeclub I agree. My job is like that. Years ago they couldn’t be visible, you had to be able to cover it. Now you have one but not to big 😂 and also which department are you applying for?
@@nightcoreeclubyep, it does depend a lot. I took out most of my facial piercings and stopped tattooing my body for a bit while I was working like a nurse, but now I have again way more tattooes and piercings again and I just did found a job in a jewelry store that also does nails. It can be hard to find a job either way, body mods or not, you can find ignorance on the subject by many employers but it’s not like 10/15 years ago, not at all.
Corporate retail jobs are notoriously difficult to even get an interview. The pre-screening they do knocks down candidates before a human can even review their resume.
I know where i live, no one wants to hire anyone, period. They dont want to pay more people to work so theyll only keep like 3 people on the whole staff. Stores and restaurants are constantly closing because of employee walk outs or there just isnt anyone to work. Its gotten awful.
Ugh yeah that’s everywhere. The purposeful understaffing and/or refusing to offer the full time hours people need because part time is cheaper for employers. And then they have the audacity to blame applicants for ‘not wanting to work’ so they can act it’s out of their hands entirely 🙄
I put in 50ish applications and have only heard from 6 for interviews my resume was rejected for 7. I have no visible tattoos. People aren’t hiring like they use to on top of there are better candidates than me. But 🤷🏾♀️
I'm a trainee surgeon and the reason i can't get an arm tattoo is that i have to properly scrub before every surgery and all that soap will destroy a healing tattoo. But if i were to take a break and get arm tattoos, I'm sure I'll still get hired, even in a small town (especially in a small town) as the NHS is facing a staffing crisis and the hospitals will be more than willing to hire a skilled surgeon.
Apples and oranges though. The more in-demand your skilled career field is, the more employers are willing to accept.
But in regards to this woman: they never even saw her in person, she made all of this up in her head haha
My NHS dentist loves my hannya mask tattoo and says he absolutely can NOT get a tattoo anywhere because of the dental regulatory bodies?? It's patient related apparently. I was shocked by that, he can't have a huge back piece? Who would ever see it? He loves tattoos but has none cause he might lose his job but I thought HOW, you're a dentist in a small place in the Scotland, who would dare fire you! Maybe dentists are more common and he is at risk, wild thought
@@hannrkelley that seems unreal, like he’s saying _only_ dentists can’t have tattoos, but dental nurses can, surgeons can, medical nurses can….?
34!? i wouldve guessed younger. thank you big sister you're a role model
97 baby to 90 baby
34 is young
@@alskarmode But old enough to know better
@@TopHatNat Know what? This comment doesn't make sense. This comment it about Lauren, not Ash.... are you confused?
@@alskarmode OMG I'm so sorry. I was totally confused and would never say anything against Lauren, I love her and her channel. Thanks for letting me know.
Honestly the most shocking part of this is finding out thag TJ Maxx exists under almost identical branding in the UK.
They had to change the name because we had a shop called TJ's already, but it's otherwise identical! Has Homesense associated with it too, which I think is the same on your side of the pond (or something similar)
@@aim-to-misbehave5674Homegoods?
We have TK Maxx in germany!
As someone who has facial tattoos, I think the issue is more about the subject matter of her tattoos than the tattoos themselves. No large chain store is going to run the risk of offending their elderly clients.
She is completely free to decorate her body any way that she wants (personally, I think she looks really cool), but she can't complain about limited job prospects because of them. I knew the limits my tattoos could bring when I got mine. If she didn’t, I'd question her commen sense & probably wouldn't hire her either.
As a starter job for experience & usually good pay, I would recommend working in a call center.
Businesses don’t want individuality. They want a blank canvas that with will wear a T-shirt that has the name and image of the business on.
In fairness, they actually denied her before seeing her so her appearance doesn’t really have anything to do with it
Business don't give a damn about individuality because they don't ever see you, they just pay you. As long as you do the job they don't care
@@ghoultooththey may have seen her social media since searching her up would bring them to her tik tok
Often true but not always. I have been hired in retail a couple of times BECAUSE of my individual style, some brands like it and it fits their image. As far as professional/office jobs go, my tattoos and piercings have never been an issue. But I also don't have a disgusting attitude and demons on my neck so there is that 😬
@wyltedleavesI think TJMaxx has a personality quiz (or '"assessment test" as it's usually called but I've seen the results and break downs. They're basically just quizilla quizes.) She likely just failed that. If that's the case then a human never even saw her app. They might be able to see she applied, but wouldn't be able to access it, let alone hire her (even if they wanted to. This happened to me as a teen. A place was willing to hire me on the spot bit I failed a couple of the questions that put my "personality" into he wrong zones amd the computer system wouldn't let them hire me, even though they really wanted to as I was a good fit.)
Looking at her from my photography perspective, she should contact Hot Topic or Killstar or one of the other alternative companies about possibly modeling for them. She has a good face and would photograph well, and they don't care about tattoos..
Okay I definitely am going to sound a little bit like a boomer here, but she comes across as not very self-aware. She was rejected from a job where they’ve never seen her and her assumption is it’s tattoos which the hiring manager has presumably never seen? Idk. At 23, she’s had plenty of time to acquire work experience and skill for retail but it just seems like she’s not taking any personal responsibility.
I have my hands and neck done, I work professionally as a Nurse but I waited ten years into my career to get those. That way I had the experience and knowledge were those were no longer a factor.
The world simply is what it is, my personal tattoo rule is that I gotta be able to wear a suit and have zero tattoos show.
Younger people get employed coz they're cheaper, not because they have experience. It's once you're over 25 then you start having trouble if you don't have the experience. No where wants to pay "adult" rates on training someone.
Least that's how it kinda is where I am (Australia)
In my USA experience, businesses don't like hiring people under 18, because they don't want to deal with the extra rules involved in employing minors.
My tattoos and colorful hair do not negate years of education and experience and professionalism. That being said, every interview that I've ever done, I always wear something to cover my tattoos and have my hair dyed a natural color just to not "shock" perspective new employers. I basically ease them into my appearance over time. Three years into my current position (academic library), and I finally feel comfortable enough to dye my hair a fun color again, but my tattoos have been fully visible for ages with no issues.
Same for myself. My ears people will see and they haven't bothered someone in years. But the tattoos and hair, I do try to spiff up for a bit. My job know knows I have purple hair and no one says anything. My patients love it and so do I.
That's the way to do it and also get a job that not many people go in. Obviously if you apply to cs they're going to try to get the best possible person because they have so many to choose from.
I am a lab technician and I have colorful hair. Maybe I didn't get some jobs because of that. Other times it was a great starter for the 'casual' part of the job interview. But I wouldn't want a job where they have a problem with the person in the lab having an alternative style. It heavily depents on the job you apply for!
Actually had the opposite issue at my old job, the cinema I used to work at only wanted to hire fresh out of school 16 yos cause they could pay them less (in the UK)
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My thing is, I'm sure she was told before she ever tattooed her face, she was told that tattooing your face might stop ppl from hiring you. It shouldn't be a surprise. 🤷🏻♀️
I could care less, but I know there are many who do care....and if you're covered with them you know you're risking that.
This is a tough one. Obviously as a tattooed person, I HATE that some people believe we're going to be worse employees/people but we get these tattoos knowing this. I feel lucky that my boss & co-workers love my tattoos but I'm not even considering a "job stopper" until I can afford to not work.
She applied and got rejected before they even got to see her. So I’m fairly sure tattoos had nothing to do with it. 🤨
Finding jobs is hard. I was in jobsearch limbo for a long time as well. But if you ask why you weren’t hired, it’s common for companies to be vague like “we found better candidates”. While I hate it too, I suppose it’s that they don’t see the point in wasting their time giving feedback people they didn’t hire, when they should be reaching out to the one person they did hire.
Sometimes you’re lucky and the interviewer will later give you reasons, but that’s fairly rare imo (and something to be appreciated when it does happen)
An interaction like:
“Is it because of my tattoos?”
“No.”
“…I think it’s because of my tattoos.”
Ultimately isn’t very helpful.
It's funny when people think that tattooed people have impulse issues. I've never thought about anything as hard and as long as about what tattoos to get lol
I stress and think about it for years it seems. I have a list of ideas.
On the age and experience thing, at least in the UK, minimum wage for people under like 20 is less, so certain roles will actually try hire younger people (e.g restaurants, at least according to the people I used to work with)
yeh can confirm! a job i worked hired lots of 16-18 year old likely for this reason
Wait, really? People get payed less for doing the same thing because of their age?!?!
@@daniellelopez3342yep. Where I live (Canada) minimum wage for minors is lower than for adults, granted it’s only about $2 difference here but still
@@ScoopedKiwis That's messed up. You're basically discriminating based on age. If 2 people are doing the same job, they should be paid the same wage.
@@daniellelopez3342 I totally agree with you there
I work in a bank. They’ve told me that they don’t give an F about any tattoos unless they are offensive. Granted, I’m not a banker. I’m a barista. however, I am working into going into business for myself.
Genuine question: What bank has a coffee shop (?I assume) inside it?
@@HonestMagpie it's not a coffee shop. Barista is my title, but I just stock the kitchens! ruclips.net/video/EDAHNJ6_sbE/видео.htmlsi=RQXaFU1nG8WedALm
She might want to remove her OF link from her insta and maybe clean up her PUBLIC social media. Hiring managers look at that stuff
Like maybe don't have boudoir photos on your PUBLIC insta
I too began getting heavily tattooed later in life after deciding that a job that didn't want a tattooed person was not a job for me. Job interviews go two-ways; I have to want to work there too.
Also, there is such a thing known as ATS (applicant tracking system) which scans CVs that are submitted online and disqualify them if certain keywords are not present. Most of the time human beings aren't even reading the CVs to turn you down. If anyone reading this is frustrated by submitting hundreds of CVs online and getting no interviews, try changing up the contents of your CV for each application to contain words that are in said job application (usually the job position listed, the skill set, requirements and so forth).
That’s about the only time you are guaranteed a “nope not you” email is with an automated system like that. Especially with a large company like TJ Maxx - the application process would be online and go through an automated vetting system before getting to a real person (likely at corporate level before getting to local).
Certain people use CVs generated by ChatGPT. Machine against the machine.
Her saying "I only got an automated email" is weird I think. Most people won't have the time to respond to every person or even call. If you want to talk to them it's your job to call them. Only thing unacceptable is to not send anything back at all.
I could understand if the tattoos are offensive or vulgar, but ultimately I don’t get businesses that don’t allow tattoos. Being tattooed to me shows that a person shows up on time to appointments, can sit still and be respectful, and has money. So 😂
100%
This!!
Lol that's funny. I've been wanting to get into the hospitality business but everywhere has rejected me except for my new job. I applied to be a cleaner and I guess the manager saw something in me and she ended up hiring me for front desk! I still cover my tattoos at work because I don't want to lose this job but she never said to and I experimented with leaving a button undone to expose a bit of my chest tattoo and she hasn't said anything. No one else has tattoos at the front desk so I'm probably going to keep mine covered but I intend to do good work so she takes a chance on someone else with tats in the future.
Please look at her tattoos. Many people will absolutely take offense to her kind of tattoos for religious reasons. You know how religious people can be. Many would go so far as to boycott a shop over something like this.
@@JuMiKu I was not speaking on her tattoos, just tattoos in general. I chose not to comment on hers specifically. 🙂
I personally have a ton of piercings and I think the way I’d phrase it is that even though I try to change what professionalism should look like, actions do have consequences and I think you eventually accept it when you get a ton of body modifications. I don’t like it but it’ll take time to for others to accept and realize body modifications don’t equal your work ethic. With that said, the woman did say she was already rejected and they didn’t see her face so I don’t think it’s cuz of the tattoos. She’s just reaching
I’m almost 70 years old, and you couldn’t get a job without experience when I graduated from college.
Plus the prevailing perception was that women were incompetent!!!
Plus, I was subjected to PROFOUND sexual harassment on most job interviews!!!
And this was well before there was a concept of “sexual harassment “ nor were any laws against that. And I had graduated from a top Ivy League college! This was, of course, egregious. Discriminating against people with tattoos is also wrong. And we all have to find some way to succeed in the capitalist system. Perhaps entrepreneuialship could be your path?? But it is true that all young people have real challenges to enter the workplace, but it has ALWAYS taken extraordinary creativity and effort.
Should it be like this?
No.
Is it the way it is?
Unfortunately, yes.
And now hearing the end of the post…
I have nothing to say to the subject of this video.
I just want to address all the other young people trying to find their economic way in the world…
Persevering will ultimately reveal the path forward for you.
It will be harder than it “should be”, but you will eventually triumph!!!
When Tiktokers get backlash and say that they posted it as rage bait, is the internet version of "It's just a joke, bro."
In the first video she said she was trying to get the job to pay off debt and in the second video she bragged on all the expenesive things she had... probably gone into debt for
I didn't get hired from the same type of places because I lacked experience. Sight unseen, so I know it's not my aesthetic that didn't get me a call back. After a certain age, places in the US act like hiring someone older is the end of the world. I have been a stay at home mom for 19 years and now that I'm divorcing, I need a job and nobody will hire me because I don't have the experience and at nearly 40, not even Hot Topic would hire me and that's without ever seeing what I look like.
(I do have what are considered job stoppers, but I also didn't need to worry about it before now, so I can't really fix it. I just have to figure something out. Along with a lot of other issues.)
Hey :) I'm in uni right now and I have a bunch of older female classmates that started uni cause they were getting a divorce and wanted financial security. I've witnessed your fight up close and I know how hard it can get. I wish you all the best ❤ I believe woman can restart at any age, you're gonna get through this, okay?
If you are in the US avoid putting things on your resume that make it clear what age you are. Don't put what year you graduated from highschool or date early jobs unless required on the application. At least you might be able to get an interview and make a good impression that way.
I think theres always going to be an employer that prefers to not have heavily tattooed workers. Because of that i mainly have tattoos on my legs i would love more visible tattoos but i hate the idea of having to cover them up because it makes people uncomfortable.
i agree with you that as an alternative person you have to consider the consequences, may they be unfair and unjust. but girl tjmaxx is not like prestigious by any means😭😭 why can’t they hire her?
According to Ash herself, the first time they saw her in person was when she walked in to ask about her rejection! So chances are it wasn't even ABOUT the tattoos, it was about the reason they gave her - lack of experience
I'm fairly tattooed and have been working in a hospital in the nhs for 4 years now. I have the most tattoos out of all the staff but it's never been an issue for me 😅
My grandads carer has an arm and leg sleeve and my grandad loves it. My grandad is 94 this week and he’s always put kindness above how tattooed someone is.
Hospitals are very strange with tattoos. Some positions you can have them and it wouldn’t be a big deal, and with others, you can’t have any. My friend works in the sanitation department, and even though the only people they interact with are doctors/surgeons that order supplies from them, they can’t have ANY visible tattoos and the craziest they can have are the tiniest of tiny nose piercing. One on each side. And maybe one tiny stud in each ear.
She needs to get off her high horse. Stop bragging! So many people struggle with having to go pay check to pay check..
I have over 30 tattoos. And I try to keep in mind sometimes people don't like visible tattoos she's almost acting like I'm better than you because I can afford these things. 😧
She afforded material things. She didn't say anything about owning a (paid off) home, or whether she has that car paid off. She's in debt, she needs some real stable income and is floundering haha.
The growing axolotl family in the background is too cute!
"... I hope you are sitting comfortably you are cozy and you have your snacks and your beverages at the ready.."
Me sitting on the bed with drinks and a snack.
I AM!
Helllll yeah!!!! 🥳
The pink with the black of your tattoos looks so good omg. Such a cute look
Ok, to give another point of view… tj maxx is a family store where kids go. Having visible horror or satanic tattoos is not family friendly. My middle child is 5 and he cannot handle horror stuff. This past Halloween the peoples who’s house our bus stop is at put out a bloody severed pigs head hanging from a butchers hook. He cried the first few days and I would have to hold him against me to prevent him from looking. He always gets uncomfortable on Halloween when the more “gross” costumes come by. I know he’s not the only person who doesn’t really like those kind of things. While we can sit here and cry discrimination all day, a person has to take responsibility for the types of visible tattoos they have and realize that it may simply be that they are not appropriate. If you couldn’t show up to work with these images on a shirt than maybe employers wouldn’t want them tattooed on either
It's a good point though since frustrated or protective parents will take it out on you and/or management if a kid gets scared by the tattoo. No one on that team wants to deal with that at minimum once a shift
Please, this is all about attention. Look, i am white with dread locks, and tatoos ..... It's called JOB STOPPERS for a reason. Yes, ok... Times need to change, but to sit and ask "why won't they hire me, is it my tattoos?" Shut up
personally, i was always told that you should have some sort of career path or financial stability set BEFORE you get a ton of really visible tattoos. yea they shouldn't 'discriminate' BUT they can and will.
Your outfit is giving Alternative Barbie and I am LIVINNGG! Thank you for talking about this topic!!
Honestly, shes not making great choices. She’s buying a ton of hello kitty items, spending a lot on tattoos, all while struggling to get a job. This girl is in for a rude awakening in her 30s. She should drive for uber/lyft/doordash and then work on a real life plan.
the thing about men is so true! i know a guy with neck and knuckle tattoos who works in early years education. i'd be willing to bet there are no women with knuckle tattoos in that same role
I live in a pretty small area. And what I’ve been seeing lately is people don’t care as much. They show up to hand in a resume or an application in ratty jeans or pajamas and they have bad attitudes. My advice to her and anyone else looking for a job, even if you’re not being interviewed that day, show up to hand in your application or resume looking professional. It doesn’t have to a suit but look clean and presentable. Also be nice to everyone you talk to you in that business. Word travels fast and if you’re an asshole the hiring manager will know about it
I’ve been heavily tattooed and pierced for over 15 years now and never had any trouble being employed, it’s about where you apply and what field. I don’t work with the public and in a laboratory so it’s never been an issue. ❤
The idea that tattoos mean poor impulse control is wild. I thought more about my tattoos than I did when I picked my college major.
Tattoos shouldn't prevent you from getting an average job. But I do think certain jobs can implement a "no visible tattoos" which include hands, face, and neck because some companies have to give off a certain look. I used to work for a janitorial company and had to wear long sleeves to cover my tattoos, it was because we worked for a private airport and had to give a certain look. But if you get denied from a job at a retail store that's kinda trashy, it's your attitude that prevents you from getting hired
I have a full time job now, and when I went in, I wore a long sleeved dress to hide my arms. My leg tattoos were visible but it was a desk job, essentially, at a college. Once I GOT the job, saw I was not in a customer facing position, and my coworkers did have visible tattoos (shoulder), that was when I lightened up. If you're unsure of where you're going to end up in the future, it's so important that you have tattoos that you know will not be a problem (my leg tattoos) OR that are easy to hide (my arm tattoos). I can not WAIT until this generation gets the reigns and we can become more open and accepting to this and it's not something to be so conscious about... Unfortunately, until then, we, as tattooed people, need to take that responsibility.
I’m PhD candidate and an adjunct professor and have visible tattoos and piercings. My mentor and advisor has hot pink hair and piercings. I have never had a problem with getting jobs in the 20 years I’ve been getting tattoos. On the flip side, my brother is heavily tattooed as well and works at a warehouse as a supervisor and forklift operator. He’s never had a problem with finding work. I think it is less about the tattoos and more about the experience and skill level.
i find it odd that that one hiring manager said having tattoos shows poor impulse control. tattoos are expensive so most people can't just go get one on a whim. i thought about each of my tattoos for weeks, months or even years before actually going out and getting them. if anything i think it shows you have amazing impulse control!
My son is a tattoo artist and I asked him to please not tattoo his face until he was a successful tattoo artist, and that’s exactly what he did-because there isn’t a lot of jobs that will accept you with the ink on your face-I am 46 and I just finished my sleeve. I’m in the professional field I work from home and I’m self-employed and have been for four years after being in the corporate world. It really just depends on what you do for your life career.
Honestly, as someone with neck and hand tattoos, I knew there were risks and prejudices associated with them. It's just something you accept when you get them. Things will continue to improve and in time they won't matter, but that day isn't here yet.
As far as her reply video . . . when we're hurt, a lot of people get defensive. I honestly think if she could take that back she would, because it has to be apparent to her how that came off. Unfortunately, she's gotten defensive again, and that means she has to stand her ground for the sake of her ego. We've all been there; it just usually isn't so public.
Looking lovely as usual! Thanks for your continued work! 😊
Who goes into a place they applied to and asks why they weren't hired? When you get rejected, just apply somewhere else. Almost all of my coworkers have at least one tattoo and/or piercing so I'm not sure if it's the tattoos.
As someone who was unemployed for 6 years after finishing my apprenticeship: yes it's almost impossible to get a job unless you have previous experience or connections
Job hunting was one of the most horrible things I ever had to do, my self worth and drive to go on was basically dead by the end of it
And i was the most vanilla looking person ever, so me looking too alternative wasn't the problem!
You’ve been killing it with the looks recently! YAS!
Fun fact, the reason I started getting more heavily tattooed is because my job didn't allow colored hair but did allow tattoos. So I went "screw you, if I can't express myself with colored hair, I'm gonna get tatted." And funnily enough, they've updated their policy to allow colored hair.
My son is 20 and he has several tattoos. I have warned him about getting a very visible tattoo until he has a career and is settled. I am fairly heavily tattooed myself, but I did not start getting them until I was in my 30’s and had my career on track. I think things are changing but I would still advise youngsters to wait for visible tattoos until you are more settled in your career. Also, I am assuming this person is obviously living on credit. She brags about what she has but then talks about paying off her debts!
Sis needs to get into a career that she can have her tattoos like: hair stylist, body waxer/esthetician, massage therapist, permanent makeup artist, makeup artist, anything with owning her own business or brand
I 100% agree that it is ridiculous to judge people for their body art. I have a full sleeve and almost a full leg sleeve. I work in a very professional setting. I work for a custom, comprehensive wealth management company. We have some clients that are not ok with tattoos. We have some who don't care. My company has zero problems with any kind of body modification or colored hair. There are times for client facing meetings you must conform to certain societal standards. Most client facing positions are required to have "natural colored" hair, but non client facing positions can have whatever they want. I don't have anything that I can not cover with business clothing. In the office, I wear whatever I want short sleeves, skirts, whatever. When meeting with most clients, I wear whatever I want because they don't care as long as I can do my job. For a few clients, I wear business clothing that includes long pants, opaque tights, long sleeves, and high neck tops because they are super conservative. When I speak to young people, I always say, "Know what you want to do with your life." Hopefully, things will catch up in the business world with the modern outlook on body art/ modifications.
Omggg. Your necklace is beautiful. Loving today's look
Thanks sweetness 🥹🩷
as a lawyer, i will never get super visible tattoos (i.e. neck, face, hands). i don't even have my lower arms done (yet). when i advance more in my career i'll get them done
There’s a reason they’re referred to as “job stoppers”.
Is it fair? No. Does it suck? Yes. Should literally anyone be surprised? No.
In this economy, employers get to pick and choose. When presented by two equally qualified candidates, they are going to go with the one that they like the look of.
My roommate has a bachelor's degree in a field she ended up hating. She tried applying for a retail job and they said she was "over-qualified." I color my hair aquamarine, and it's become a part of my identity. I hate my natural hair color, so anyone who would make me cover it up isn't a place I want to work. I don't yet have many visible tattoos, but I plan on getting more. I refuse to work for anyone who would make me cover my arms. I feel for those who are really struggling. Job searching sucks.
Old GenX here, the problem with needing experience is nothing new. The face tattoos and heavily visible tats and piercings were often only seen at a tattoo shop or an alternative store like hot topic. The social media pages of potential employees are also viewed now so if you look like you party alot or have some anti-whatever views thats another mark against you.
Honestly some people are scared of alt people and employers dont want to deal with blowback from customers. I think if she covered her face ink she would be a teeny bit more hireable but doubt it. You have to think of the future when adding mods to yourself. 🤷♀️
Our unemployment rate in the U.S. is at 3.7% …VERY low . This should be the easiest time to get a job, but I can’t find one because of my age.
I think it is wild that she's only 23, I thought she was much older from how many tattoos she has, most of the heavily tattooed people I know are in their late 20s/early 30s. Gaining some experience before getting completely visibly yatted up is something to consider. If you have the resume or portfolio to speak for your work already more people will be more willing to look past the tattoos.
I am her ex-husband if she makes plenty of money but yet I offer to help her get a new place after our divorce and take out a loan which is stupid in my name to help her and she refuses to pay me back. Like I said, it’s my fault, but after doing so much for somebody, you expect them to respect you enough to at least do that.
She couldn’t get approved which really sucks when in a desperate situation. Overall she is a decent person but sometimes gets caught up in their way of thinking but I believe she will find her way and truly just wish happiness even after everything.
Its true i am his best friend