The paralyzed Dragonite was outspeeding you cause of a glitch (yes, incredible): if a paralyzed Pokemon uses Agility, the game will first reset his speed, and then apply the speed boost. This works the same with burned pokemon using Swords Dance. I know, gen I being gen I.
i know I'm a bit late, but what if a paralyzed pokemon uses swords dance after obtaining Koga's badge? Does the badge boost recalculating your stat remove the speed drop?
@@villagemarauder Yeah, unfortunately Kakuna, Caterpie, Metapod and Magikarp can only learn normal type moves so it's literally impossible for them to defeat any of the ghost types. Weedle gets poison sting so Kakuna could work if he allows pre-evolved moves, but he generally doesn't.
Tentacruel is the one part poison type pokemon that is not used by a gym leader or elite 4.(And Beedrill, but Beedrill doesn't count). Even Venomoth and Golbat got a spot in somebody's team.
I have to wonder... can the Gen 1 AI beat Gen 1? The player would decide what moves to learn, what pokemon to catch, and where to go, but trainer battles would be controlled by the game's "good" AI.
I'd add one more trick: you could pick whether it used good AI or bad AI. Though the main problem would be the logistics of setting this up. AI against AI isn't easy to make happen. The way with the least amount of hacking would require two Game Boys, but even that would require hacking one of the games a lot to give the trainer the player's team from the other game, and the player the trainer's team from the other game. And then we have the problem that enemy Pokemon have infinite PP, while the player Pokemon doesn't. You'd probably need to fix that, likely by letting the player have infinite PP, as giving the AI PP would likely make it not work properly, as it was designed for infinite PP. It might thus be easier to just hack a single game to change how battles work. I mean, either way will need someone good with code to change things.
@@ZipplyZane I don't see why you can't just change the move set to make a ppless move unavailable to the ai. It knows how to pick from a move pool smaller than 4!
I don't know how you're doing it.... This about the 4th upload in a row where I have just sat down, I've got some time on my hands to relax and BAM! "Uploaded 8 minutes ago" Thanks dude
I'm pretty sure in Gen 1, Agility both nullifies the speed drop from paralysis and boosts your speed. That's why that dragonite was outspeeding even while paralyzed.
Yeah. That’s Gen 1 in a nutshell. And, the main reason why Dragonite uses Agility to nullify Paralysis in order to be faster and keep up the Wrap cycle.
Fun fact: stat recalculations entirely undo stat changes due to status like paralysis and burn. So the dragonite outsped you basically because the game forgot he was paralyzed
@@bongosmcdongos4190 That's what happens when the coders have to rush to get things out the door. Probably part of why that Jr Trainer in Brock's gym is using ground mons despite it being the rock gym or why most rock mons in gen 1 are dual-typed with ground.
@@SoraDonaldGoofy99 Personally I think because in Celadon there is a few other things that you do... Shopping, The entire Rocket Hideout, and not to mention her Gym is tucked away in a corner behind a HM move.
@@boonski But you need to beat her to get to Giovanni's gym and the Elite 4. Every time I do a run, I just get all the crap I want done out of the way ASAP. When I did my Butterfree run (not for RUclips, just for fun), I went straight there just to get her badge out of the way. It's usually what I do unless I'm not sure I can win without grinding for exp.
Every other solo run "Let my try it again and see if I can win without a crit, don't want to win with luck" This solo run "C'mon crit, c'mon crit, c'mon crit"
Fucking impressed JRose at how fast you’re churning these out now with no drop in quality. Always enjoy your commentary and analysis, takes me back a decade.
You know, the one thing I wanna see is: Can you beat Pokemon Red/Blue with JUST an arcanine? At first people might think "PAH, Easy! Arcanine is one of the strongest non legendary pokemon in Gen 1, and one of the strongest Fire Pokemon even to this DAY! That will be a no brainer!" Except you realise that arcanine can NOT learn a single attack by Level up! It only has 4 Move from the get go: Ember, Leer, Roar and Take Down. And the only moves it can learn from TM's are: Toxic (Poison), Dragon Rage (Dragon), Dig (Ground), Reflect (Psycho, not even attack, but can be useful), Fire Blast (Fire) and 11 more Normal Type moves, of which only 8 are actual attacks, and the only noteworthy ones are Skull Bash, which is bad in Gen 1, Swift (kinda useful to hit targets in the air and in the ground), Body Slam (actually useful since it can paralyze enemys... except normal types in gen 1) and Double Edge. So I say an Arcanine Run would be pretty, pretty challenging actually =) Also a fire type with only 2 Fire Moves, and both are Special dispite Arcanine actually being more of a physical Powerhouse, since it's Special Stat is only 80, compared to his 110 Physical attack xD EDIT: I edited the last part. forgot that the special Stat of arcanine in Gen 1 is 80, not 100 xD'
As a sorta consistent fan of your content, I wanted to bring something up I rarely see elsewhere. It's a breath of fresh air watching you do these challenge runs since it feels so obvious that you're having fun with each and every one of them which is something I don't get to see often and it makes watching you a very pleasent experience. Thanks for the now dozens of hours of entertainment you've given me and many more to come
Ayy Jrose, really appreciate the effort you put on these. ESPECIALLY after hearing you on streams too, you really do dedicate a lot of time just to edit these videos. Like god damn, mad respect.
I mean, as I watch these videos I also refer to "Rooval Twoval" and "Rorval Fourval", but at that point one has transcended "a cute gimmick" and is probably annoying people. ...I mean, I got a little annoyed at myself just now as I shared those stupid nicknames with the world.
Oh about Dragonite outspeeding even though it was paralyzed. Boosting your speed even by 1 stage in gen 1 gets rid of the speed loss of paralysis AND gives it the extra speed it would normally get.
Pokemon as a formula really is something special. The fact that a game this old, buggy, and rough around the edges mechanically is still fun to play to this day is evidence enough.
Transforming as a Ditto while paralysed also negates the speed loss of paralysis. To this day I have no idea if this was an intentional design decision or not😅
I love how exciting your narration gets, keeps me metaphorically on the edge of my seat. Looking forward to how the rest of the eeveelutions go if you're willing
I dont know if you made this video becuase of me asking in the last video but either way thanks before i even watch this man , i get to see my favourite pokemon of all time in a solo run
Yeah, I think Flareon will be the slowest, because it's key stat is attack and it only has 1 gym it's good against, but 3 that it's bad against. Vaporeon's obviously gonna be the fastest. Even though it's got 2 gyms it's not very good against, it's got 3 it's good against.
16:13 I just wanted to say that Psywave was SUPER rare since it does a random amount of fixed damage from 1 damage to 1.5 times the user's current level. Alakazam actually did close to Max damage at 61 with Psywave here(43 X 1.5 = 64.5 Pokemon rounds down 64 damage). I've never seen Psywave do this myself.
You're easily my favorite channel on RUclips right now so glad I found you. That said, on any of your videos in the "how fast can you beat x Pokémon game with x Pokémon?" Series, the videos always have the same answer: reallllly fuckin slowly lol
I love your content, thank you for doing what you do. It's one of the few good things of 2020. Also, you should have some sort of indicator on the tier list for min battles, like a star next to the name or something.
I would say Caterpie but its only attacks are Tackle and Struggle which are both normal and he would literally be stuck either at Pokemon Tower or Agatha
@@kevmasengale6903 I forget if during his Magikarp run if that was the end or if he found a way past the trainers in the tower. Cause I know he made it to the e4, forget if the challenge was over and he just moved past it to see if he could get further or if he legitimately made it past that somehow
40:31 Damn Jrose, that was really funny to laugh on Gyarados like that. I mean, as we all knew, it'd be an obvious OHKO but just, damn that was SAVAGE! XD
To the ones not understanding how a paralysed dragonite outsped jolteon after 1 agility, even tho gen1 paralyse does a 1/4 speed modifier, it's simple : The same way as badge boosts triggers again after stat modifiers, stat-related shenanigans are fucked up in gen1. Speed boost from agility cancels COMPLETELY the speed drop from paralysis (the 1/4 chance of not attacking is still there tho) so dragonite there just had a clean x2 speed, thus outspeeding jolteon. For more info about all the stat-modifying glitches of gen1 (in fact, there is more about paralysis and burn), check on bulbapedia at the "generation 1 list of glitches", at the "Stat modification errors" part cheers and I love your content Jrose, everytime your videos are released is just a "alright, time to have a chill time for a bit". Thanks for your hard work, take care !
i've been stuck in hospital for the last 2 months and these videos are literally the best for when I'm sitting in bed just trying to pass the time and watch something cosy. thanks a ton, jrose. hope you never stop pumpin out the content xxx
It’s super interesting to see that you’ve spawned a lot of ‘how fast can I beat Pokemon _____ with (insert super strong Pokémon here)’ and I love it! Keep up the work man, I’ll be here to watch every video you put out
@Jrose11 - I've been recovering from surgery and and while being bedridden the last 8 days I've been binge watching all your pokemon 1st and 2nd gen runs. Coupled with the nostalgia I have for the games, I really enjoy watching you and the narrations you give. Thanks mate. Looking forward to every new one you post. Keen to watch this one now.
I predict that Flareon will be faster than Jolteon thanks to 130 base Attack letting him get past Brock quicker and -Dig for coverage giving him a better match up against later Rock types.- Edit: it can't learn that in Gen one turns out.
I would agree until the elite 4. Lorelei and Agatha would be trouble. No good moves to take out Ghost and especially Water since it does not get an electric attack. In some ways Flareon will do well against Lorelei due to Fire Blast being neutral but he will behind all of them in the Brock and Misty selection.
@@JamesSonOfBaboonzo Flareon can't learn dig in gen 1. And it's going to have an awful time with Misty right afterwards. And Giovanni. Then it won't have anything for Bruno, and Lorelei/Blastoise will be very scary. Not to mention it doesn't get a good fire move by level up until 54 or fire blast (post blaine)... Flareon gets to look pretty though!
The reason why Dragonite was outspeeding you near 38:48 was that it was paralyzed, and then used Agility. In gen 1, when a Pokemon is afflicted by paralysis or burn and it uses a Speed or Attack boosting move, the nerf from the status condition will actually get overwritten and the Pokemon will gain the boosts from its move as if it was at +0! Great video as always! 💜
Koga's only a Poison Gym because gym's had to have types. What he's actually meant to do is teach the player about how powerful statuses can be, and he lists his specific ones. Sleep, poison, confusion. His modus operandi is stalling and a death by a thousand cuts. And then end with Explosion if he's backed into a corner. Of course the AI isn't quite up to snuff, and teaching the player types led to the much more easily parsed gimmick of having each trainer be a specific type. They do this even worse with the Elite Four. Lorelei has that Slowbro for Disable, and she's meant to freeze you. In practice she almost never does and she just hits with Water/Ice power. Agatha is the closest to keeping to this trend, with Confuse Ray, Glare and Hypnosis in her wheelhouse. I was sort of hoping with better AI the Gen 3 remakes would do better with it. They kind of do, until they mess up in the postgame and just make everyone monotype. In game trainers are more interesting when they diverge from their one type a little to focus more on an aspect of the game. I wish they did it more like that.
Love every time a new upload hits. Great content and excellent work. I’d struggle to sink that kinda time into Pokémon but I thoroughly enjoy your videos. Thanks a bunch for the amazing content
For that Lance fight, the reason Dragonite outsped after Agility even though it's paralyzed is because boosting a stat undoes the loss from a status affliction. So for example, when paralyzed Dragonite used Agility, its speed returned to normal and THEN was doubled. Same thing works with Burn and Swords Dance. I'm honestly a little shocked you didn't know that, I feel like it's less obscure than the Badge Boost Glitch.
I was also surprised he didn't know not to use Pin Missile against anything it's not x4 strong against that resists Thunderbolt. On average, Thunderbolt always does more damage to neutral targets than a x2 Pin Missile unless it gets a crit or hits at least 3 times. And even then, it has to have incredibly low defense. It's basically only good against Exeggutor and Venusaur.
When you have a paralyzed enemy in RBY and it uses Agility, it gets to 2x speed, i.e. ignoring the paralysis. However, the paralyzed mon still gets the paralysis chance. It's an incredibly important mechanic in RBY competitive Pokemon - Articuno and Zapdos run it. Someone better at RBY OU can explain it more clearly, but there's my 2¢. Love your stuff, by the way; keep up the good work and I'm glad to see you back!
I’ll be honest here... I’m usually one of those viewers who just go on RUclips, click on the video, enjoy it and then close it; no liking the video or subscribing to the channel. I felt the urge to do both this time after many of your uploads: your commentary is seriously good and it’s interesting to see how you manage to beat the game without resorting to the “leveling up strategy” every time, all coping with the little quirks Gen 1 has. Also, you never ask us to leave a like or subscribe; it’s like you just do your thing and leave us the choice to even think about subscribing. I don’t know, It’s something I genuinely respect and appreciate. Keep up the good work man and stay safe! P.S. Hope to see my boy Magmar one day on your Gen 1 solo challenges
5:32 i dont know if anyone already said that but the reason why the pikachu went first with the x-speed is the following: as you probably know the ai has to outspeed to use an item first and every ai trainer who has items has a chance to use them each turn (for healing items specific health requirements need to be met except for blaine). If they don't outspeed they'll use the item after your turn, however the speed check of the item use is effected by the priority of the move the pokemon would've used if they didn't use an item instead. So in this case pikachu would have used quick attack, thus going first but because an item was used he got priority on the x speed
About the “why does Koga have psychic users in his gym”, I think it’s because his gym is made of invisible barriers and, in canon, I guess you could say that is created by the psychic types.
38:40 It's part of the underlying problem that causes the badge boost glitch. If a Paralyzed pokemon uses Agility it recalculates their stat from the base value and then forgets to reapply the stat drop from the status. Burned + attack boosting moves have the same effect.
Was really hoping for and excited to see this run as Jolteon was one of my favorite Pokémon from Gen 1 (and still is to this day) -- I remember as a kid thinking Jolteon's having Double Kick and Pin Missile and having great speed made it really good, which was especially true in Gen 1 for the crit chance. I thought Double Kick and Pin Missile would make an impact in the run, and it was cool to see they turned out to be the difference in the final battle. Love your content!!
!!! Eevee getting the spotlight again! Of course this excites me, I'm the Eevee guy (literally)! Can't wait to see the other two, although I don't think Jolteon will be being beaten..
Dragonite outsped because of a weird mechanic in Gen 1. When a Pokemon is burned or paralyzed, and then uses Agility or Swords Dance, the attack or speed drop from status is annulled.
The paralyzed Dragonite was outspeeding you cause of a glitch (yes, incredible): if a paralyzed Pokemon uses Agility, the game will first reset his speed, and then apply the speed boost.
This works the same with burned pokemon using Swords Dance.
I know, gen I being gen I.
A glitch!? In Gen 1!? No way!
The only thing in this game that doesn't seem to have a glitch attatched to it is choosing your name, apparently lol.
@@youtube-kit9450surprisingly your Trainer name actually does cause a couple of glitches. 😅
Of fucking course it does.@@ThatRandomFastingGuy
i know I'm a bit late, but what if a paralyzed pokemon uses swords dance after obtaining Koga's badge? Does the badge boost recalculating your stat remove the speed drop?
"How did you get so strong?"
"Every time Jolteon got a crit I did 1 pushup"
"Jesus christ"
@Vela S 1 push up a day EVERY day? Man you sure have an intense exercising routine
@@3snoW_ its all bout them gainz
He’s gonna end up doing every Pokémon and I’m all for it
How fast can you beat Pokémon red with just a kakuna?! Now of course kakuna only gets harden...
@@villagemarauder that would be awesome I would watch it but sadly I believe it is impossible because struggle is normal type in gen 1
Can't wait to see roughly 110-120 or so of the original 151 get fucking embarrassed by little unevolved Gastly.
@@villagemarauder Yeah, unfortunately Kakuna, Caterpie, Metapod and Magikarp can only learn normal type moves so it's literally impossible for them to defeat any of the ghost types. Weedle gets poison sting so Kakuna could work if he allows pre-evolved moves, but he generally doesn't.
@@Humg12 bide works against ghost in gen 1
Me in every Jrose video after 8 badges: well this seems like a very quick run.
Me after noticing there is still half an hour left: ...oh...
that's kinda how every video goes
I always catch myself feeling the same way after 8th gym. "Oh, 60% of video left? This is going to be rough..."
“miss-aisle”, “lore-uh-lee”, “ar-kay-nine”
for someone who plays these games so much, you mispronounce A LOT of things.
40:51 “We have a nice amount of health for Venasaur.”
I see what you did there.
30:29 "I'm at a nice amount of health" as well
Lol
This is too perfect
rofl
Yes!!! It is the funny number!!!
The Sand Attack failed against Giovanni because of the Guard Spec.
Who knew Giovanni’s guard spec spam would actually help one day?
@@rueblie2627 yeah
@@rueblie2627 I didnt
Lol
What’s makes Koga’s gym even funnier is his there are SO many Poison-types to choose from in Gen 1, and yet his Gym hardly uses any lol
Imagine if they had Nidokings
Imagine if poison type was *useful* in Gen 1
he shouldve switched places with blaine and become the 7th gym leader, and he should have a nidoking, gengar, arbrok, weezing and venusaur as his last
@@pixel3042 I think you think gyms have better pokemon than they do in this game ahahahahaha
Tentacruel is the one part poison type pokemon that is not used by a gym leader or elite 4.(And Beedrill, but Beedrill doesn't count). Even Venomoth and Golbat got a spot in somebody's team.
I have to wonder... can the Gen 1 AI beat Gen 1?
The player would decide what moves to learn, what pokemon to catch, and where to go, but trainer battles would be controlled by the game's "good" AI.
That sounds awful. Let’s do it.
I wanna see this.
After all the bonuses and normal solo runs,after we know the AI better then are friends lol
I'd add one more trick: you could pick whether it used good AI or bad AI.
Though the main problem would be the logistics of setting this up. AI against AI isn't easy to make happen. The way with the least amount of hacking would require two Game Boys, but even that would require hacking one of the games a lot to give the trainer the player's team from the other game, and the player the trainer's team from the other game.
And then we have the problem that enemy Pokemon have infinite PP, while the player Pokemon doesn't. You'd probably need to fix that, likely by letting the player have infinite PP, as giving the AI PP would likely make it not work properly, as it was designed for infinite PP.
It might thus be easier to just hack a single game to change how battles work. I mean, either way will need someone good with code to change things.
@@ZipplyZane I don't see why you can't just change the move set to make a ppless move unavailable to the ai. It knows how to pick from a move pool smaller than 4!
Clicked faster than Jolteon’s base speed
That was acutely genius
I think itll be lower. the brock fights brutal and eeveelutions have serious movepool issues. Even bruno could be a wall lol
think jolt is a bit lower
Saaaaame
best eveelution
I expect you to click faster than Electrode's base speed next time. Always strive to be greater.
9:41 Don’t think I didn’t see you Thunderbolting a Marowak.
I left that in intentionally haha, I was so mad after I did that
@@Jrose11 can you please do machamp
@@Jrose11 LOLLL
I love that the Count impression gets progressively better and better with each episode.
AH HA HA HA
One word. Practice. Ah, ah, ah!
It was only until yesterday that I learned that it came from _Sesame street._
Yes
Electric types that learn Dig are amazing sweepers for gen 1.
Gen 1? What electric pokemon learns dig
Woah
Its MrotoPario
Hey proto
@@basicaIIymyseIf Doesn’t learn, in gen 1 I don’t think any electric types do
Pikachu sucks until it gets light ball, and it still sucks
I don't know how you're doing it.... This about the 4th upload in a row where I have just sat down, I've got some time on my hands to relax and BAM! "Uploaded 8 minutes ago"
Thanks dude
i was also about to get a rest... brooo thanx jrose
you think i didn't see that thunderbolt vs marowak
9:40
It's the proto-alolan marowak, so it's cool.
@@cham384 lol
The OG ghost marowak
Huh, I’d never noticed the ghost/alolan thing. Neat
I'm pretty sure in Gen 1, Agility both nullifies the speed drop from paralysis and boosts your speed. That's why that dragonite was outspeeding even while paralyzed.
Yeah. That’s Gen 1 in a nutshell. And, the main reason why Dragonite uses Agility to nullify Paralysis in order to be faster and keep up the Wrap cycle.
In addition the speed drop is applied to the opponent. So Dragonites was boosted and jolteons was lowered
@@ryant.koehler403 what!? Do you have any documentation to back that up? That seems so weird
AFAIK this applies to Burn vs Attack Buffs as well
@@priestesslucy watch false swipe gammings videos on the mechanics of gen 1 battling
Fun fact: stat recalculations entirely undo stat changes due to status like paralysis and burn. So the dragonite outsped you basically because the game forgot he was paralyzed
Y'know I love gen 1 jank but even this one has me going wtf
@@bongosmcdongos4190 That's what happens when the coders have to rush to get things out the door.
Probably part of why that Jr Trainer in Brock's gym is using ground mons despite it being the rock gym or why most rock mons in gen 1 are dual-typed with ground.
Gen 1 Unaware
Clicked faster than a Jolteon with a Choice Scarf!
impossible 😂
This power... It's too strong!
Try clicking faster than a Barraskewda in rain with a choice scarf next time 😏
@@mrsuperheatran2794 Suckerpunch
I see what you did there lol
"NO! It's not because I forgot her in the Alakazam run."
Maybe not but I bet that played a factor. lol
Next person to like this comment is a dweeb, its at 69 currently which is a nice amount of likes as-is
Am I the only one legitimately confused as to why he keeps forgetting she exists?
@@SoraDonaldGoofy99 Personally I think because in Celadon there is a few other things that you do... Shopping, The entire Rocket Hideout, and not to mention her Gym is tucked away in a corner behind a HM move.
@@theSato Well it's at 81 now...
@@boonski But you need to beat her to get to Giovanni's gym and the Elite 4. Every time I do a run, I just get all the crap I want done out of the way ASAP. When I did my Butterfree run (not for RUclips, just for fun), I went straight there just to get her badge out of the way. It's usually what I do unless I'm not sure I can win without grinding for exp.
Jolteon was a staple on my team as a kid playing through red and blue. Every video in this series has been so nostalgic for me. Love every one.
Every other solo run
"Let my try it again and see if I can win without a crit, don't want to win with luck"
This solo run
"C'mon crit, c'mon crit, c'mon crit"
It is kind of funny to think about but I think it's a little less lucky to rely on the with a Pokemon with a one in four chance to get them
Jeah he has been really inconsistent with that
Fucking impressed JRose at how fast you’re churning these out now with no drop in quality. Always enjoy your commentary and analysis, takes me back a decade.
You know, the one thing I wanna see is: Can you beat Pokemon Red/Blue with JUST an arcanine?
At first people might think "PAH, Easy! Arcanine is one of the strongest non legendary pokemon in Gen 1, and one of the strongest Fire Pokemon even to this DAY! That will be a no brainer!"
Except you realise that arcanine can NOT learn a single attack by Level up! It only has 4 Move from the get go: Ember, Leer, Roar and Take Down. And the only moves it can learn from TM's are:
Toxic (Poison), Dragon Rage (Dragon), Dig (Ground), Reflect (Psycho, not even attack, but can be useful), Fire Blast (Fire) and 11 more Normal Type moves, of which only 8 are actual attacks, and the only noteworthy ones are Skull Bash, which is bad in Gen 1, Swift (kinda useful to hit targets in the air and in the ground), Body Slam (actually useful since it can paralyze enemys... except normal types in gen 1) and Double Edge.
So I say an Arcanine Run would be pretty, pretty challenging actually =) Also a fire type with only 2 Fire Moves, and both are Special dispite Arcanine actually being more of a physical Powerhouse, since it's Special Stat is only 80, compared to his 110 Physical attack xD
EDIT: I edited the last part. forgot that the special Stat of arcanine in Gen 1 is 80, not 100 xD'
The critical hit ratio of Gen 1 is higher than Snoop Dogg.
Ha ha
I think it would be level with cheech and chong? 🤣
Not as high as me though....
Underated af
As a sorta consistent fan of your content, I wanted to bring something up I rarely see elsewhere. It's a breath of fresh air watching you do these challenge runs since it feels so obvious that you're having fun with each and every one of them which is something I don't get to see often and it makes watching you a very pleasent experience. Thanks for the now dozens of hours of entertainment you've given me and many more to come
Jrose has been straight grinding the past week and I'm here for it
Ayy Jrose, really appreciate the effort you put on these. ESPECIALLY after hearing you on streams too, you really do dedicate a lot of time just to edit these videos. Like god damn, mad respect.
Wake up babe, Jrose uploaded
IM HERE
username checks out
Read this comment as gengar used toxic...weird
*Jrose11. Let's be civilized and use our proper names...
@Mini Crewmate he was supposed to destroy Team Rocket, not join them.
That moment that you realize how unmatched Jolteon's moves are to its stats! Double kick / pin missile using attack = super meh!
thunder wave and dig
Jolteon’s my favourite Eeveelution, so I’m glad you did it first! I’m assuming you’ll do the other ones next?
Most likely
@@Jrose11 farfetch'd at some point?
Running out of content sadge
@@mickling how? There's about 1000 pokemon in which to do "a run"
@@mickling
How is doing more solo challenges "running out of content"
"Jolteon has a nice amount of health for Venasaur"
69 health
Nice
Petition to start calling Rival 3, "Rival TRIval"
I think that would take away from the specialty of rival fiveal
I mean, as I watch these videos I also refer to "Rooval Twoval" and "Rorval Fourval", but at that point one has transcended "a cute gimmick" and is probably annoying people.
...I mean, I got a little annoyed at myself just now as I shared those stupid nicknames with the world.
@@nihilvox time to say Rival Bival
@@nihilvox Rival Single, Rival Dual, Rival Trial, Rival Quadral, Rival Fival, Rival Zexal
@@nihilvox I like rorval fourval
Oh about Dragonite outspeeding even though it was paralyzed. Boosting your speed even by 1 stage in gen 1 gets rid of the speed loss of paralysis AND gives it the extra speed it would normally get.
Also in gen 1 if you are paralyzed and then return to normal status, your speed is still halved. Same with attack if you get burned.
Pokemon as a formula really is something special. The fact that a game this old, buggy, and rough around the edges mechanically is still fun to play to this day is evidence enough.
@@mikeyes620 I play gen 1 more because of the different mechanics and the bugs and glitches. It feels totally different from GSC and up.
Transforming as a Ditto while paralysed also negates the speed loss of paralysis. To this day I have no idea if this was an intentional design decision or not😅
As for which first stage Pokemon i’d like to see next: Venonat
I love how exciting your narration gets, keeps me metaphorically on the edge of my seat. Looking forward to how the rest of the eeveelutions go if you're willing
Take a shot everytime he says “...and a crit”
Anyone would be dead by the time he reaches Nugget Bridge.
Instead, take a sip of water. You'll down 20 minutes in.
if its water youll get hydrated for the day
We counting all of the runs?!?!
@@teamtwerk98 no, just this one. But If he does an ELECTRODE run...
I dont know if you made this video becuase of me asking in the last video but either way thanks before i even watch this man , i get to see my favourite pokemon of all time in a solo run
I love your thumbnails so much! The amount of small details is just too cool!
"I think Jolteon is going to be the slowest"
Me: Impossible! Jolteon has like double the Speed of the two other Eeveelutions!
Yeah, I think Flareon will be the slowest, because it's key stat is attack and it only has 1 gym it's good against, but 3 that it's bad against.
Vaporeon's obviously gonna be the fastest. Even though it's got 2 gyms it's not very good against, it's got 3 it's good against.
@@InfernosReaper You're hilarious. Been doing a Flareon run, and it absolutely *trashes* everything so far.
@@alexisauld7781 I was thinking Flareon would be bad but body slam with that pretty damn high attack stat has gotta do work I guess.
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@@Asmodeus555 That pretty much carries Flareon, yes.
16:13 I just wanted to say that Psywave was SUPER rare since it does a random amount of fixed damage from 1 damage to 1.5 times the user's current level. Alakazam actually did close to Max damage at 61 with Psywave here(43 X 1.5 = 64.5 Pokemon rounds down 64 damage). I've never seen Psywave do this myself.
Is it possible for Psywave to do 0 damage while hitting? I think I saw it once or am I misremembering? Is 1 the least it can do?
You're easily my favorite channel on RUclips right now so glad I found you. That said, on any of your videos in the "how fast can you beat x Pokémon game with x Pokémon?" Series, the videos always have the same answer: reallllly fuckin slowly lol
Me about 20 minutes in: Hey, Jolteon is actually doing quite well!
*Realizes how much time is left*
Me now: Uh oh-
That was my reaction as well.
The secret is to let the time bar disappear, then you're in genuine suspense for whether he wins or not
@@loulou3676 It is just so hard not to look...
Every time you say "bye bye Muk" I get the Everly Bros' "Bye Bye Love" stuck in my head.
And I laughed at "Bye Bye Birdie"
Love this series! Thanks for the frequent uploads
I love your content, thank you for doing what you do. It's one of the few good things of 2020.
Also, you should have some sort of indicator on the tier list for min battles, like a star next to the name or something.
Three fully-evolved mons in like, a week and a half?
Alright, which ridiculously-difficult first-stage are you putting off?
Probably Weedle tbh
I would say Caterpie but its only attacks are Tackle and Struggle which are both normal and he would literally be stuck either at Pokemon Tower or Agatha
@@morgastic23 can't make it to Agatha without going through the tower....
@@kevmasengale6903 I forget if during his Magikarp run if that was the end or if he found a way past the trainers in the tower. Cause I know he made it to the e4, forget if the challenge was over and he just moved past it to see if he could get further or if he legitimately made it past that somehow
@@morgastic23 struggle is type less in Gen1, no?
“I’m at a nice amount of health”
8:54 Sandattack failing on Onix was because of Guard Spec :)
Dude you have been pumping out videos like crazy and I’m loving it
Jrose11: “Brock is usually where you lose a ton of time”
Me: *cough* abra *cough*
40:31 Damn Jrose, that was really funny to laugh on Gyarados like that. I mean, as we all knew, it'd be an obvious OHKO but just, damn that was SAVAGE! XD
2 videos in 3 days? Man, Jrose is spoiling us
Ooooh a new jrose video on a rainy evening just hits different. Happy Thanksgiving everyone
You already know this is gonna be a good video.
To the ones not understanding how a paralysed dragonite outsped jolteon after 1 agility, even tho gen1 paralyse does a 1/4 speed modifier, it's simple :
The same way as badge boosts triggers again after stat modifiers, stat-related shenanigans are fucked up in gen1. Speed boost from agility cancels COMPLETELY the speed drop from paralysis (the 1/4 chance of not attacking is still there tho) so dragonite there just had a clean x2 speed, thus outspeeding jolteon.
For more info about all the stat-modifying glitches of gen1 (in fact, there is more about paralysis and burn), check on bulbapedia at the "generation 1 list of glitches", at the "Stat modification errors" part
cheers and I love your content Jrose, everytime your videos are released is just a "alright, time to have a chill time for a bit". Thanks for your hard work, take care !
Jrose be doing God's work. Happy Thanksgiving!
Ah i remember God saying to Jesus "Play the pokemon."
@@notscorchingsands9718 Yeah, one of those obscure proverbs that no one mentions.
It must take a lot of endurance to narrate one of these videos. But you also make it entertaining to listen to. I respect that.
Jrose, somehow your voice has become the default narration voice whenever I’m doing something mundane. Have you considered selling voicelines for GPS?
i've been stuck in hospital for the last 2 months and these videos are literally the best for when I'm sitting in bed just trying to pass the time and watch something cosy. thanks a ton, jrose. hope you never stop pumpin out the content xxx
Be well
I'd love to see you go through the first gen with one of it's gods, Tauros
It’s super interesting to see that you’ve spawned a lot of ‘how fast can I beat Pokemon _____ with (insert super strong Pokémon here)’ and I love it! Keep up the work man, I’ll be here to watch every video you put out
"I'm at a nice amount of health."
Health is at 69.
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Jrose thank you for making my night a whole lot better
Jrose: *Is fighting Lance*
Me: *sees there's almost 15 minutes of video left*
Me: oh no
@Jrose11 - I've been recovering from surgery and and while being bedridden the last 8 days I've been binge watching all your pokemon 1st and 2nd gen runs. Coupled with the nostalgia I have for the games, I really enjoy watching you and the narrations you give. Thanks mate. Looking forward to every new one you post. Keen to watch this one now.
Calling it now Vaporeon wins by 20 minutes with Jolteon in 2nd place and Flareon will be 15 minutes behind Jolteon.
I think Jolteon might be the fastest
I predict that Flareon will be faster than Jolteon thanks to 130 base Attack letting him get past Brock quicker and -Dig for coverage giving him a better match up against later Rock types.-
Edit: it can't learn that in Gen one turns out.
Oh, oh no. Flareon is probably going to be barely better than bulbasaur.. If that
I would agree until the elite 4. Lorelei and Agatha would be trouble. No good moves to take out Ghost and especially Water since it does not get an electric attack. In some ways Flareon will do well against Lorelei due to Fire Blast being neutral but he will behind all of them in the Brock and Misty selection.
@@JamesSonOfBaboonzo Flareon can't learn dig in gen 1. And it's going to have an awful time with Misty right afterwards. And Giovanni. Then it won't have anything for Bruno, and Lorelei/Blastoise will be very scary. Not to mention it doesn't get a good fire move by level up until 54 or fire blast (post blaine)...
Flareon gets to look pretty though!
30:20 Jolteon has 69 HP
Jrose11: I'm at a NICE amount of health.
Nice, I see what you did there.
Can't sleep due a really bad anxiety but with your videos I'm able to finally sleep, not because they're boring but because they're relaxing
The reason why Dragonite was outspeeding you near 38:48 was that it was paralyzed, and then used Agility. In gen 1, when a Pokemon is afflicted by paralysis or burn and it uses a Speed or Attack boosting move, the nerf from the status condition will actually get overwritten and the Pokemon will gain the boosts from its move as if it was at +0!
Great video as always! 💜
Jrose when any minor inconvenience happens: nOOOO
god i love your videos so much. your commentary + game knowledge make these videos amazing to binge. i hope you get to 200k soon
Hell yeah, I was rooting hard for Pin Missile.
For some reason, I always got so lucky with this attack as a kid.
I love Pin Missile on Jolteon. I always thought Sandslash should have it as well since that would give it something unique and potentially useful
Go to 16:26 and put it on x.25 speed. You can see Red turn into ABCD.
Koga's only a Poison Gym because gym's had to have types. What he's actually meant to do is teach the player about how powerful statuses can be, and he lists his specific ones. Sleep, poison, confusion. His modus operandi is stalling and a death by a thousand cuts. And then end with Explosion if he's backed into a corner. Of course the AI isn't quite up to snuff, and teaching the player types led to the much more easily parsed gimmick of having each trainer be a specific type. They do this even worse with the Elite Four. Lorelei has that Slowbro for Disable, and she's meant to freeze you. In practice she almost never does and she just hits with Water/Ice power. Agatha is the closest to keeping to this trend, with Confuse Ray, Glare and Hypnosis in her wheelhouse.
I was sort of hoping with better AI the Gen 3 remakes would do better with it. They kind of do, until they mess up in the postgame and just make everyone monotype. In game trainers are more interesting when they diverge from their one type a little to focus more on an aspect of the game. I wish they did it more like that.
Love every time a new upload hits. Great content and excellent work. I’d struggle to sink that kinda time into Pokémon but I thoroughly enjoy your videos. Thanks a bunch for the amazing content
For that Lance fight, the reason Dragonite outsped after Agility even though it's paralyzed is because boosting a stat undoes the loss from a status affliction. So for example, when paralyzed Dragonite used Agility, its speed returned to normal and THEN was doubled. Same thing works with Burn and Swords Dance. I'm honestly a little shocked you didn't know that, I feel like it's less obscure than the Badge Boost Glitch.
I was also surprised he didn't know not to use Pin Missile against anything it's not x4 strong against that resists Thunderbolt. On average, Thunderbolt always does more damage to neutral targets than a x2 Pin Missile unless it gets a crit or hits at least 3 times. And even then, it has to have incredibly low defense. It's basically only good against Exeggutor and Venusaur.
Jolteon: is at 69 hp
Jrose: I'm at a _nice_ amount of health
Last time i was this early, you still called Rival Fival, Rival Five
truly dark times
when was the last time?
When you have a paralyzed enemy in RBY and it uses Agility, it gets to 2x speed, i.e. ignoring the paralysis. However, the paralyzed mon still gets the paralysis chance. It's an incredibly important mechanic in RBY competitive Pokemon - Articuno and Zapdos run it. Someone better at RBY OU can explain it more clearly, but there's my 2¢. Love your stuff, by the way; keep up the good work and I'm glad to see you back!
23 minutes at the elite 4: oh, we're almost done
Only halfway there: well, shit
Dude I absolutely love your videos. I look forward to these so much!
I love the "eeveelution" rating
Love your content, mate. Very easy to watch and always funny and informative. Keep up the good work!
Okay, now you’re spoiling us. I love it
Do you mind me asking, is that your real hair? It’s gorgeous! I want that colour.
@@tetrisgoat aww thank you! It was, it's a different color now though
I’ll be honest here... I’m usually one of those viewers who just go on RUclips, click on the video, enjoy it and then close it; no liking the video or subscribing to the channel.
I felt the urge to do both this time after many of your uploads: your commentary is seriously good and it’s interesting to see how you manage to beat the game without resorting to the “leveling up strategy” every time, all coping with the little quirks Gen 1 has.
Also, you never ask us to leave a like or subscribe; it’s like you just do your thing and leave us the choice to even think about subscribing. I don’t know, It’s something I genuinely respect and appreciate.
Keep up the good work man and stay safe!
P.S. Hope to see my boy Magmar one day on your Gen 1 solo challenges
Cant wait to see how fast Metapod can beat the game.
Can't hit Ghosts
Oh man. It only gets harden, string shot, tackle and struggle. That's only if you learn tackle and string shot before you evolve it btw.
At 38:50 dragonite outspeeds you cuz of a glitch that happens if you use agility when paralyzed
Dragonite outspeeding when paralyzed is because of the agility boost ignores the paralysis the speed drop
wrong it brings it back up to normal L2 POKEMON
5:32 i dont know if anyone already said that but the reason why the pikachu went first with the x-speed is the following: as you probably know the ai has to outspeed to use an item first and every ai trainer who has items has a chance to use them each turn (for healing items specific health requirements need to be met except for blaine). If they don't outspeed they'll use the item after your turn, however the speed check of the item use is effected by the priority of the move the pokemon would've used if they didn't use an item instead. So in this case pikachu would have used quick attack, thus going first but because an item was used he got priority on the x speed
About the “why does Koga have psychic users in his gym”, I think it’s because his gym is made of invisible barriers and, in canon, I guess you could say that is created by the psychic types.
*offical l2 english*
38:40 It's part of the underlying problem that causes the badge boost glitch. If a Paralyzed pokemon uses Agility it recalculates their stat from the base value and then forgets to reapply the stat drop from the status. Burned + attack boosting moves have the same effect.
Babe wake up, new Jrose11 vid is up
Was really hoping for and excited to see this run as Jolteon was one of my favorite Pokémon from Gen 1 (and still is to this day) -- I remember as a kid thinking Jolteon's having Double Kick and Pin Missile and having great speed made it really good, which was especially true in Gen 1 for the crit chance. I thought Double Kick and Pin Missile would make an impact in the run, and it was cool to see they turned out to be the difference in the final battle. Love your content!!
"Pin missile"
Can’t think of a better way to spend my Thanksgiving. So thankful for your videos during this pandemic!
!!! Eevee getting the spotlight again! Of course this excites me, I'm the Eevee guy (literally)!
Can't wait to see the other two, although I don't think Jolteon will be being beaten..
One of the best moments of your day when you see Jrose11 uploaded a video few minutes ago. - It’s throwback Pokemon time
A wise piece of bread said asked about the fossil. It's good for the algorithm
Is anyone else addicted to this guys commentary??
Agility negates the decline in speed from paralysis and then raises speed.
wrong it birngs it back to normal lv
@@perfectcell5613 ah shit thanks.
Dragonite outsped because of a weird mechanic in Gen 1. When a Pokemon is burned or paralyzed, and then uses Agility or Swords Dance, the attack or speed drop from status is annulled.
Gen 1, gas a glitched mechanic? That's unheard of!