New MSI Bios Is Out - PBO2 & Curve Optimiser For Ryzen 5800X3D!

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  • Опубликовано: 18 дек 2024

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  • @John-yq9qx
    @John-yq9qx Год назад +8

    Thanks for the video! I was getting 90-91C constantly in Battlefield 2042 on stock settings with the thermalight peerless assassin 120 SE. After applying these settings I never go above 76C. So glad I could do it from the BIOS. MSI is awesome for this update.

  • @Fate025
    @Fate025 Год назад +7

    Thanks for the video!
    I used to do a minus 0.05v core voltage offset and limit PPT to 100W on the older bios without the curve optimiser.
    Now with the new Bios we finally get the PBO curve optimiser offset control.

  • @h4ppy794
    @h4ppy794 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks, always did it manually with the program Pob2 tuner, now its always set. 👍

  • @Kinghaldi
    @Kinghaldi 8 месяцев назад +1

    Was having the hardest time finding these settings and this was the only video I found for it so thank you. Was hitting temp limits way to quick on some games and now it’s as smooth as warm butter.

  • @HadenAndStuff
    @HadenAndStuff Год назад +3

    My man! Didnt know my X570S had these settings yet. Invested in a new 360mm Arctic Liquid Freezer II cooler but was still kind of hot. This helped tremendously, thank you!

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  Год назад

      Glad to hear it!

    • @johnlangley7521
      @johnlangley7521 Год назад

      I dont get it, I use a Arctic Cooling Liquid Freezer II 120 MM.. max at 68° 4450 All core Cinebench 23

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  Год назад

      @@johnlangley7521 What seems to be the issue with this?

  • @dtndee
    @dtndee 9 месяцев назад +1

    i was getting 90C on Cinebench 23 but with this undervolt it is now 80c max, it was reaching 80c max on games and now is constantly between 60c and 68c hardly reaching 70c i live in a warm city 32c is the average temperatura on here, u made my life better with some heat off and also noise is lower than ever, thanks sir.

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  9 месяцев назад

      Great to hear! 👍

    • @wc.j3911
      @wc.j3911 4 месяца назад

      same but I just turned on kombo strike 3 and its been perfect

  • @FK-lj4ki
    @FK-lj4ki Год назад +2

    thanks a lot after quick easy steps i have 78 celsium in 100% using in cinebench before i had insta 90 celsium

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  Год назад

      Entirely possible on B450 so long as the motherboard bios supports it. Only major differences B450 vs B550 is PCIE4 for the GPU and M.2 slot.

  • @deadpool790
    @deadpool790 Год назад +5

    I just got my 5800x3d and applied the most recent of updates but not with a msi and on CinebenchR23 I was only getting boost to 4300ish then I applied a minus 30 on the optimized Curve and now its boosting to that 4450 mark and the temps seemd to have drop a little bit. I havent run A64 on it nor plan to but the optimized Curve seems to have made a small but good difference in boosted clocks.

    • @deadpool790
      @deadpool790 Год назад +1

      What score were you getting on R23 before hand and then after I got a 5.3% increase on just the Curve part

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  Год назад

      Excellent! The undervolt helps massively. Hopefully this video helped? I didnt write down my before and after R23 scores unfortunately.

    • @deadpool790
      @deadpool790 Год назад +1

      @@tisikygaming I was doing some comparisons score wise and last night leaving Load Calibration on auto seemed best with just the minus 30. It was about a 5ish % increase in the score for R23 with the latest bios for my gigabyte + minus 30 curve. Not entirely sure if I should try voltage limits to get anything more out of the cpu. Its a pretty good score at 15.1k but with everything turned off on the desktop other than monitoring software and r23

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  Год назад

      @@deadpool790R23 is just a simple benchmark. I wouldn’t worry trying to get maximum score unless you are looking to get more points on benchmark leagues.
      If that was the case, you’d be looking at more serious hardware than the typical user anyway (LN2 cooling etc).

  • @BlueBaron3x7
    @BlueBaron3x7 Год назад +1

    Thanks for the video last week my 5800x3D starting over heating, paste dried up. But I had in on Artic Freezer II 240 AIO your setting gave me the best Cinebench R15 score I've ever had and helped keep it cooler. Stress testing proved that. But it is worth nothing even though Artic Freezer II 240 AIO is a decent cooler like many 360's it is not upto the job with a 58003D. I will be upgrading cooler to a Artic Freezer II 280.

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  Год назад +2

      You’re welcome 🙏 but I don’t think switching from a 240mm rad to a 280mm rad will make much difference.

    • @BlueBaron3x7
      @BlueBaron3x7 Год назад

      @@tisikygaming Many youtubers tested it and say it better than 360's. More than one, so I have to take you guys judgement unless you all lying lol 🤣

  • @fitzmartin1052
    @fitzmartin1052 Год назад +2

    Didn’t work for me unfortunately, settings changed and pc started to run really slow 😢

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  Год назад +2

      Maybe it’s unstable? You obviously have to run your own stress testing when adjusting these sort of settings.

    • @Harrison.DuRant
      @Harrison.DuRant Год назад

      Mine did the same. Tried this on a 7800X3D and it went down to .5 GHz.

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  Год назад

      @@Harrison.DuRant 0.5Ghz at full load? Sounds like an issue with the chip or the motherboard/PSU if it did that. Also these settings arent confirmed for the 7800X3D, just the 5800X3D as the two chips are masssively different given the 7800X3D allows more voltage control IIRC.

    • @wankerka
      @wankerka Год назад

      Don't follow his undervolt settings, every cpu are not the same.

  • @markgusbyanyo
    @markgusbyanyo 2 месяца назад +1

    Great vid brother

  • @GGxKiwi
    @GGxKiwi 8 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you beautiful man. ❤

  • @niyamimbi1179
    @niyamimbi1179 Год назад +2

    MSI has the Kombo Strike for undervolting it and has for ever..., with this new BIOS with PBO, does it up the Turbo? Thanks

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  Год назад

      Turbo is still around 4.45ghz max unless you adjust BCLK which isn’t worth it!

  • @alexandru4797
    @alexandru4797 3 месяца назад +1

    Great video!

  • @thetyrant3578
    @thetyrant3578 Год назад +1

    What cooler are you using to have that low temps?? Im using a 360mm AIO with a fractal torrent case and my temps are at 76-83c with a -30 on pbotuner

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  Год назад

      Full custom loop. CPU block is Aplhacool Eisblock. Running 360/240/120mm rads.

    • @paologuerrieri7734
      @paologuerrieri7734 Год назад

      The key is the parameter of ppt EPT ppb the first parameter this limit the cpu power package if you don't touch this parameters and don't do a manual undervolting the cpu burn like hell

  • @DDosAndDonts
    @DDosAndDonts Год назад +1

    what's the benchmark score? The overlay near the end of the video cover that part of the screen

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  Год назад

      Sorry, it was 14577. Usually averages between 14500-15000.

  • @Isaac-wq3ny
    @Isaac-wq3ny Год назад +1

    Are you using Kombo Strike together? realize that when I use PPT 100 I lose a lot of score because the clock drops to R23, releasing it to auto is around 127w so that the cpu at 80 degrees

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  Год назад +2

      No need for Kombo Strike after the new bios.

  • @RobBomford
    @RobBomford Год назад +2

    Cinebench peak temps down from 87c to 71c! Youre a life saver man. In terms of stability do you think its neccesary to run any stress tests or should we just see how regular use goes?

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  Год назад

      Yes I would say its always worthwhile to do some stress testing. I personally run folding@home for anything up to 24hrs (good for scientific research too!), or you can do some cpu tests on OCCT along with some heavy gaming.

    • @RobBomford
      @RobBomford Год назад +1

      @@tisikygaming Ok great will do that, thanks again

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  Год назад +1

      @@RobBomford No problem! 👍

  • @JASON57FOOTBALL
    @JASON57FOOTBALL Год назад +1

    hello TiSiKy Gaming, now in November, witch version i should download of the BIOS ?? same of you or the new one ? i have buy my pc 2 week ago

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  Год назад

      www.msi.com/Motherboard/MPG-B550-GAMING-PLUS/support
      7C56v1F is latest stable bios.

  • @Jbpennes
    @Jbpennes Год назад +1

    Should we use Kombo strike 3 in addition to all this?
    What about all the other settings we had to touch like cccp, BAR resize or whatever these are? :)

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  Год назад +2

      No, dont use Kombo Strike. Just use the settings in this video. You want cstates and cppc enabled, but preferred cores disabled. BAR resize is a function for certain Nvidia GPUs and should be enabled, assuming you are using a PCIE4 slot motherboard too.

    • @Jbpennes
      @Jbpennes Год назад +1

      @@tisikygaming Is there a difference if "Global C-state Control" is in Auto or enabled?

    • @Jbpennes
      @Jbpennes Год назад +1

      @@tisikygaming Thing is with your settings I had shutdowns, even lowering to -25 or-20.. so I went back to Kombo Strike and 0 problem so far.

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  Год назад +1

      @@Jbpennesset it to enable.

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  Год назад

      @@Jbpennesthis probably occurred because your cpu wasn’t stable with the PBO2 values. If your cpu is stable with Kombo strike 3, then it means you can use PBO2/CO and set it to minus 30 for all cores. Then you can skip the PPT values.

  • @erroDan
    @erroDan 6 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks bro

  • @vbruu
    @vbruu 9 месяцев назад

    I’ve applied these settings but when I press F10 it says nothing has changed but when I go into bios it remembers it? 🤔

  • @Breakingbadandgood
    @Breakingbadandgood Год назад +1

    I was applying these settings through the “motherboard settings” in bios but when I tried to save and reboot it doesn’t show the settings I applied instead it’s says no changes were made but if I apply these settings through the “overclocking settings” icon in the bios and went to save and reboot it shows the changes I made?
    Is there a difference?
    And if there which one is better to stick with?

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  Год назад +1

      Hey, sorry my mistake. Technically the PBO2 settings are motherboard, but I just rebooted and checked and confirmed my PBO2/CO settings are applied from the motherboard settings and they are working. I set them in the overclocking tab too, so ive set it going in both. Working fine. So go with whichever setting tab will make it shows settings applied.

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  Год назад +1

      I made a new video about this issue here, hope it helps! - ruclips.net/video/ktIqXoWJYMg/видео.html

  • @emilianolmr3594
    @emilianolmr3594 Год назад +1

    What's yr cpu temp when u play BF 2042 ? Mine go 65-70.

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  Год назад

      Usually hovers around 55-60C. Ambient temp isnt helping at all (currently 29C ambient!)

    • @emilianolmr3594
      @emilianolmr3594 Год назад

      @@tisikygaming u have Kombostrike 3 also ? Or a offset ?

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  Год назад

      @@emilianolmr3594 I was using Kombo Strike prior to the content in this video, now I just use PBO2 and CO in bios.

  • @vreesloos
    @vreesloos Год назад +1

    Hello I am thinking about replace my cpu with 5800x3d just saw your video. Sorry i didn't find your cooler. Using arctic freezer 34 duo esports right now. Do you think this AIO can handle the cpu. I ofc gonna use it at -30 in worst case around -15 or -20.

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  Год назад

      The Arctic Freezer 34 duo esports is an air cooler, not an AIO water cooler. That being said, it is still a good enough cpu cooler for the 5800X3D with PBO2 yes.

    • @vreesloos
      @vreesloos Год назад +1

      ​aye right, okay thanks.@@tisikygaming

  • @envyem3743
    @envyem3743 9 месяцев назад

    Does this Bios update work on all msi boards? I got a x470 gaming plus. Thank you so much for your work. It really is appreciated ❤

  • @Matsura_tv
    @Matsura_tv Год назад +1

    Well rip :( my ch7 dont have curve optimizer and with 2 360 rad and 120 rad my cpu in cb15 go up yo 76 degreee idk how is possible

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  Год назад

      It happens due to the physical layout of the CPU die unfortunately. Are you sure your board doesnt support PBO2/CO? There's a new bios out 12th June 2023 might be worth flashing that to see if it offers the features? I just had a look at another YT video and there is an option under "extreme tweaker" that is called precision boost overdrive, does your board not show this?

    • @Matsura_tv
      @Matsura_tv Год назад

      @@tisikygaming the last BIOS of ch7 Is 5103 and no.. dont have curve optimizer only xfr and i set tdc EDC ptt and also use pbo tuner set t all core -30 and still doing 75 degreee

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  Год назад +1

      @@Matsura_tv So you dont see PBO in the tweaker options? Pretty poor for a supposed high end, expensive motherboard.

    • @Matsura_tv
      @Matsura_tv Год назад

      @@tisikygaming feelsbadman

  • @partshopmax
    @partshopmax Год назад

    is this limits good enough? or i should use only curve negative, mine work well on this. I got 4.25mhz and 75C in aida64

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  Год назад

      Ideally you want to see it boosting to 4450mhz max.

    • @partshopmax
      @partshopmax Год назад

      @@tisikygaming mine only boosting 4.3 all cores, sad

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  Год назад

      @@partshopmax it’s not being given enough power then or it’s thermally limited. It can also depend on the game. In rocket league it barely used any cpu so mine boosts to maximum there. On multi core gaming needs it won’t boost to maximum.

    • @partshopmax
      @partshopmax Год назад

      @@tisikygaming maybe its because i have b450 a pro max, vrm limits?

  • @ksouvenir5561
    @ksouvenir5561 Год назад

    Would we archive the exact same result of those tweaked Curve, PPT, TDC, EFC setting by swapping for a top of line CPU cooler to cool our 5800x3D? 🙄

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  Год назад +2

      Nope. Doesn’t matter what cooling your using. If you don’t adjust the voltage settings on the 5800x3d it will more than likely suffer high temps. It’s the way the chip is made.

    • @ksouvenir5561
      @ksouvenir5561 Год назад +1

      @@tisikygaming OK 👌

    • @Fate025
      @Fate025 Год назад +2

      yea I agree with tiskeygaming, I'm also running my 5800x3d on a custom water-cooled loop with dual radiators. Before this bios, and at stock settings the cpu temps will spike to 90+ C.

  • @vMrCrAzY
    @vMrCrAzY Год назад +1

    I'm still having same overheating problems with it 90c on the first 1m in ada 64 could it be a bad cpu cause I've tried it on different pc and coolers

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  Год назад

      What is your setup? What CPU cooler? What thermal paste? What case/fans? Are you sure its running at lower voltage during stress test? It should be running under 1.20v during stress test if you applied the undervolt correctly. If the undervolt is applied correctly, and you still see 90c then the issue if with your setup. Either bad contact between cpu and cpu cooler, or poor airflow in the case.

    • @vMrCrAzY
      @vMrCrAzY Год назад +1

      @@tisikygaming i tried 2 cpu coolers my first was air cooler 140mm 2 fans (as500plus) and i changed it to liquid cooler called (ls520se) 240mm i have 3 intake fans cf120 and 2 exh and im sure from the mounting cuz i did it twice also the fans of the cpu coolers and the pump always on 100% and still im sure the fans is spining and my thermal paste is thermal grizzly and the case name mb530p and im sure from the airflow i even tried to remove the front cover from the case and i did exactly what u did in the video and still i ordered 240mm arctic freezer 2

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  Год назад

      @@vMrCrAzYand your sure the undervolt is working? What is the cpu voltage under load?

    • @vMrCrAzY
      @vMrCrAzY Год назад +1

      @@tisikygaming yeah it was 1.1v in some games 65w to 85w

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  Год назад

      @@vMrCrAzYthen it must be your setup. Either your cpu cooler is faulty, you’ve not got a good mount on the cooler, or there’s no airflow.

  • @Ssdj3nt0
    @Ssdj3nt0 8 месяцев назад

    Pbo limits on msi board can be raised? Because i can only lower them...

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  8 месяцев назад

      Yes you can set PBO limits manually. But you wouldn’t want to. The limits in the video are more than enough to let the 5800x3d run at a decent speed!

  • @RIPBlueInk
    @RIPBlueInk Год назад +1

    I think tech demos and reviews suit you a lot better than the gaming content.
    Have you thought of writing games/hardware reviews?

  • @imvictorvasquez
    @imvictorvasquez Год назад +1

    Does this help with random temperature spikes?

    • @sashach82
      @sashach82 Год назад

      not sure))

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  Год назад

      Yes it does, since we are now controlling the maximum voltage available for the CPU. This is however only up to a certain point, if after using PBO2/CO you still get big spikes you might need to consider re doing the thermal paste or get a better cpu cooler.

  • @txufx9267
    @txufx9267 Год назад

    hi, does this void the warranty of the cpu?

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  Год назад

      Hi, no it doesn’t. If you run too high voltage that will likely void the warranty.

  • @shosii9737
    @shosii9737 11 месяцев назад

    I don’t see precision boost overdrive. How do I enable that?

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  11 месяцев назад

      ruclips.net/video/ktIqXoWJYMg/видео.htmlfeature=shared

  • @gabrielspohr1333
    @gabrielspohr1333 Год назад

    what are those ppt, edc and tdc ? the higher i can get the best?

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  Год назад

      No, the lower the better since it will result in lower power draw and lower temps, but if you go too low the CPU wont be stable or wont boost as high as it should do.

    • @gabrielspohr1333
      @gabrielspohr1333 Год назад

      @@tisikygaming so i should low until my cpu keep reaching 4.45 all cores? Im using 100-70-100, -30 all cores seems stable, but on Battlefield 2042 is a little over 80c, i should decrease all ppt edc and tdc at the same time?

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  Год назад +1

      @@gabrielspohr1333 Something else is wrong if your still hitting 80C with -30. I would check your thermal paste application, and failing that upgrade the cpu cooler.

    • @gabrielspohr1333
      @gabrielspohr1333 Год назад

      @@tisikygaming i really hate those dual tower coolers, im thinking of upgrading the fan of my mugen 5, the default fan os 1200 rpm, If i buy those phanteks, it should help right

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  Год назад +1

      @@gabrielspohr1333 I would aim for better fan with better CFM and use high quality TIM like thermal grizzly kryonaut. Also make sure the case has good airflow.

  • @hubertmentel4332
    @hubertmentel4332 Год назад

    Asus Strix x570-f. My 5800x3d 1.12v boost to 4250 in cinebench and only 12k score... WHY ... when he have stock vcore and trottling i have 14k? :/

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  Год назад +1

      Well it depends what settings your using. If you have set the PBO2/CO settings correctly, your cpu should boost to 4.4-4.45ghz in CB R32, if its not thermal limited.

  • @DepressiveMood
    @DepressiveMood Год назад

    You can write the optimal settings bios ?

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  Год назад

      I covered the settings in this video - ruclips.net/video/LdeAPNLmnnU/видео.html
      Other than this, its just the PBO2 settings from this video here.

  • @HAha-hy9zv
    @HAha-hy9zv Год назад

    Hi,Can I do this for Ryzen 5 5600x?

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  Год назад

      You can undervolt the 5600x using PBO2 and CO, however the settings here in the video won’t be stable for your 5600x.

  • @qubes8728
    @qubes8728 Год назад +1

    The thing is it looks great in cinebench but does nothing for gaming. Even in a cpu intensive game like WZ, temps with an AIO or decent tower cooler rarely go over 60c so there’s no chance of thermal throttling and it boosts to 4550 all day. Sure the cinebench thing is fun and I played around with it but unless you’re into synthetic benching or you’re on a stock cooler maybe then it’s kinda useless.

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  Год назад +4

      I wouldnt consider less power draw, lower thermals and longer lifespan useless. On the flip side, the opposite to these benefits is "useless" in my opinion if you are getting the same core frequency. At stock vcore your cpu will probably use 50% more power, and will more than likely not boost as high during gaming.
      With my settings, my cpu always boosts to 4.45ghz in gaming, and temps rarely go over 55c.

    • @qubes8728
      @qubes8728 Год назад

      @@tisikygaming so does mine and yours will too and i havnt touched a thing, thats because games are only hitting 2 or 3 cores at a time. if you run a game and run hwinfo or ryzenmaster youll see it gets no where the tdp, ppt or edc anyway. the cpu is never under full load all cores like cinebench. Theres zero chance of thermal throttling in gaming. with a decent cooler(360mm) mine sits 58-60c on a hot day and i live in the tropics. ive seen 2 cores hit 4.55 and the only thing ive done is turn off cool and quiet. the fact you said probably and more than likely means you dont really know. reset your settings to stock play a game and tell me the difference. For reference 1440p 3070ti corsair 4000d airflow 6 fans 360 mm aio.

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  Год назад

      @@qubes8728Well my cpu uses less power and runs cooler. If you want to run yours at stock that’s up to you, makes no difference to me 😊

    • @qubes8728
      @qubes8728 Год назад

      @@tisikygaming Tnx mate. Yeah I don’t play cinebench. Its great you’ll like it but it’s not for me sorry. It must be annoying having to reduce core voltage to keep your chip from down clocking, especially with a custom loop to only gain 5c?! I play games so it makes no difference to me☺️

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  Год назад +1

      @@qubes8728 Nah its not annoying when you know what your doing, and only takes a minute in bios to set it and forget it. The only time I go into bios is to take screenshots for videos like these :D

  • @framo_official
    @framo_official Год назад +1

    please asus, give my b450 f gaming some love..

  • @Livebasura69
    @Livebasura69 Год назад +1

    Preferred Cores yes or no?

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  Год назад +1

      AMD CBS > NBIO > SMU > CPPC Enabled​
      AMD CBS > NBIO > SMU > CPPC Preferred Cores Disabled​
      AMD CBS > CPU > Global C-State Control Enabled​

    • @Livebasura69
      @Livebasura69 Год назад +1

      @@tisikygaming ty

    • @alanpringle397
      @alanpringle397 Год назад

      You forgot to say usb should be formatted to fat32

    • @tisikygaming
      @tisikygaming  Год назад

      @@alanpringle397 Good point, although Windows selects FAT32 by stock, so its not really a necessity to mention this.