I CHEAPED out with the Ryzen 7 5800X3D... and it was AMAZING!
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
- PC Gaming on Ryzen 7can be done with the BEST value, and today we find just that, coupling the Ryzen 7 5800X3D with a $25 Cpu cooler, 3600Mhz DDR4, b550 and then putting it to the test against the i5-13600K and fitting both outfits with an RTX 4090. Intel vs AMD hasn't been this good for a long time in the tech space. Though do you really need to spend that extra with either outfits? (also sorry for late review today).
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Chapters
00:00 A different way of testing, continuing on from a previous success.
00:48 Prices, the Parts used in today's video and the setup.
02:10 Undervolting the Ryzen 7 5800X3D.
03:18 Gaming Benchmarks, The ASUS Bios may hold some interesting answers in Shadow of the Tomb Raider and Horizon Zero Dawn. Also testing 1080p, 1440p and 4K Cyberpunk 2077, Far Cry 6 and CS GO.
06:37 Gaming power consumption in Shadow of the Tomb Raider.
07:13 Limitations with the 5800X3D and tuning.
08:23 Conclusion, great competition in the mid-range from AMD, that extends to the high end, just like the 13600K.
12:02 Question of the day, where can I get a $1600 RTX 4090? they are currently $2200?
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Instructions unclear: Bought X58 Xeon instead.
Welp, gold electric bill for you. Super sonic
@@vincentvega3093 Gold electric bill?
There are high core count Xeons with large L3 Cache, similar to the X3D 😍
@@philscomputerlab Pray tell they come with XP compatibility!
@@MarcoGPUtuber Xeon runs anything LOL
the 5800x3D represents the pinnacle of AM4 for gaming. upgraded my 3700x for it a month ago. And DANG. it felt almost as tangible as my upgrade from a 1070ti to a 3080 two years ago. A fitting sendoff for such a legendary socket.
that's exactly what I wanted to hear! I am also contemplating replacing my 3700X with a 5800X3D and now I am jus waiting for a good deal 🙂
is it actually that much of an upgrade?
Im also thinking about replacing my 3700x for the x3D
honestly just waiting for the price drop to hit here so I can make the upgrade as well.
@@yannick4895 For high refresh gaming or running emulator/sim type games its night and day,also way more headroom in the future
@@Kevin-fl7mj well im on a 3440x1440p 165hz monitor with a rx 6900xt.
Im basically just waiting for the price to drop a little more, but im also very curious if its that much of an upgrade like people tell me it is.
I put a 5800X3D into my Asus X470F the other week, and whilst I expected it to do really well in sim racing titles, I was still blown away when I ran the benchmark in Assetto Corsa. At high settings @4k with graphics enhancing mods, I was getting ãn average of 60FPS with my 2700x, with the 5800X3D I got 145FPS! And it showed me (despite being 4k) my 1080Ti was bottlenecked by the 2700x, it is now the GPU that is the bottleneck. Roll on 7900XTX!
Wow I have a 2700x and 1080ti too. I'd love to see what results you get from other games at 4k with the 5800x3d VS the 2700x. I'm also planning on getting the 7900xtx. I might have to make some videos myself when I get the 5800x3d and 7900xtx to see how much more fps I get VS my 2700x. UPDATE: I went ahead and bought an rtx 4080 because I started streaming on twitch and the 7900xtx has those thermal junction temp issues witht he vapor chamber design. My friend bought a 7900xtx and got a replacement and still had the issue. He returned it and got an rtx 4090!
@@DigIntoGaming The biggest uplift is in Sim titles, VR and other CPU intensive games. That is where you'll get the full effect of the stacked L3 cache.
@@DigIntoGaming I upgraded from 2700X to 5800X3D as well and I have a 1080Ti. Spider-Man RM, Uncharted, GTA V, Tomb Raider all running smooth 60FPS with high settings. I have it locked to 60 as the TV doesn’t have gsync or free sync and it’s 60hz panel. The bottleneck is the gpu now and not the cpu.
@@Hellknight27 oh Ok that makes sense. So like Arma 3 and farming simulator 22 too? Overall from the benchmarks I've seen the 4090 definitely bottlenecks the 2700x, like 40 fps less on the 2700x than the 7950x at 4k and no doubt the 7900xtx will too. Definitely don't want to miss out on that performance and it's definitely a cheaper upgrade than ryzen 7000 series lol
My CPU frametime halved in AC in VR going from a 5800x to 5800x3d, so I can only imagine coming from a 2700x!
Excellent review as always, its awesome that you revisit options that are reviewed and put aside after release.
The fact that the cache is so massive means if you skimp on the RAM you have less of an impact on performance. Also the fact that it doesn't overclock (mostly) means you can get away with a basic motherboard that only has the features you need and nothing else. Then you can take any money you save and put it towards a GPU.
I mean cache can't really make up for ram
@@bluelantern5241 Faster cache means less data needs to go RAM to begin with. These chips have been tested in all sorts of conditions with all sorts of hardware. Faster RAM has a much lower increase in performance vs the non 3D version.
I never overclock I keep everything the way it is.
Never had a CPU fail me ever.
Just ordered this chip amazing price $299 the best I've seen.
ryzen overclocking is pretty much just masturbation in all cases in terms of gaming performance. there's nothing to be gained other than thermals
@@bluelantern5241 The 5800x3d gets ddr5 speeds with ddr4. I'd say the cache does make up for ram.
When I've bought the 5800x3D I've paired it with an RTX 3080ti and it works like a charm with everything at max settings in all games,using an AIO CPU cooler H100i Corsair,so yeah...I'm happy with my purchase,love your channel!
Love to see the budget vs expensive build benchmarks, and great to see the 5800x3d performing so well. I wonder how the Asus bios managed to get so much more performance out of the 5800x3d in some tests
Yeah that SoTTR blew me outta the chair, looking for a price performance chair as we speak.
@@techyescity You gonna make a chair video?
(Probably a little out of your field?)
no it has none to do with the mboard.. its just that good.
@@techyescity i had to lower the res quite a bit to get it out of GPU bound. cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/533881637948096522/1038181458147278980/image.png
Asus prob overvolting CPU with a beta bios, expect a fire. I'm done with Asus
You pushed me over the line i just ordered one. I was thinking about AM5 for a new build but comparable frame rates for hundreds less can't be passed up. Appreciate the video.
yeah, AM5 just doesn't seem worth it atm
Brother, you put this video out at the perfect time. I have this exact build and am looking to upgrade to the 3D chip. Thanks as always!
i like how you show the struggle of putting in work . great job man.
The Ryzen 7 5800X 3D I think is kinda like the GTX 1080ti of CPU's, truly ahead of it's time when it comes to raw gaming performance (Considering it is punching above it's weight vs DDR5 CPU's while using DDR4) and on AM4 (An almost 5 year old socket on it's last leg), I personally went with the i5-13600K because it's more recent and I stream while gaming so the e-cores will help a bunch there and for video editing etc. Buying into AM5 would've represented a bigger investment and Idon't have that money, people say oh 13th gen is on a dead socket already but I don't upgrade every year, in fact my current cpu is the i7-9700, I have an RTX 3060, it slightly bottlenecks the 3060 performance at 1080p, but the main reason for upgrading is because I stream and it's struggling to deliver decent frames in the game I play since it's CPU bound.
You can play videos on monitor 2 and game no issues on a quad core hex core or 8 core.
If you want to encode and game its best to have a 2nd computer. Streaming a video from you tube is no big deal for most cpus. I can do it with a 10 year old hex core xeon or newer. Sounds like you making excuses on upgrading.
@@Physics072I think he meant he livestreams while gaming
@@ohnobro3770 Yea he was not very clear on what he was talking about.
Yeah, I bought mine about a month ago. Prior to that I was on a 5600X from day one. I've gone thru 2 gpus, Vega 64, and 5700XT. I am now on a Sapphire Toxic 6900XT LE. It was good with the 5600X, but the 5800X3D was a generational uplift in my games. Just like you've shown very close or beats current 7000 series cpus in gaming. I will be on AM4 for at least another year. I am waiting to see what Zen 4 3D V-cache brings to the table and at what price.
Great thing about the 5800X3D is that it's not affected by lower IF clock as much as the other ZEN2/3 variants thanks to its massive cache. So ZEN/+ users can probably just swap the CPU and enjoy higher fps without worrying about upgrading their DRAM.
I can maintain in all games i tested all core at 4450, max all core, with a PBO -30 using max 105W. For gaming, is an upgrade to anyone with CPU´s from 1 year ago, especially VR and SIM´s.
I bought an 5600x around 3 months ago and i'm really happy with it. I change my ryzen 5 1400 for The 5600x , My Best change since forever XD. You made My mind with your vids and explanations , i love your channel and The way You work around everything so thx man !!! You rock!!!! :Cheers: from Argentina.
Got the 5800x3d on my x370 Crosshair VI Hero. An 2017 mobo, and I have almost top of the notch performance in gaming paired with a 3080. AM4 was absolutely an AWESOME platform.
From 1700, to 3800x and now 5800x3d, gains were just huge!
Thanks for another interesting video. I like how you point out; that with a bit of patience, you can put together a great gaming pc for a lot less.
The 5800X3D is the last upgrade for many early AM4 adapters. It's the 3rd and last CPU in my current rig that I've build in 2017. The best thing is that it performs just as well on an old x370 board, hardly any difference with newer, much more expensive boards. Think I paid 160 euros for my Asus Prime x370-pro and it's still going strong. Crazy value!
Same Asus prime pro X370, I had the 1800x witch was really bad a single threaded performance to a 3800x and that was like a new pc, going to be getting the 5800x3d soon as prices are now below £400 and that gets rid of the split L3 16mb latency penalties I have on the 3800x (factorio and other games quite sensitive to it)
3000 and lower have half cache available as advertised, 5000 4-8 core is full L3 cache available as advertised (5900/5950x is again split L3 cache but isn't any slower then a 8 core part due to IPC improvements on 5000)
Can't justify the price of the full system for 7000 thought (5800x3d keep me going for another 3 years I guess)
I had 2 of the Asus Prime x370-pro fail on me both times the memory controller since 2017. Moved to gigabyte happy since, will never touch asus in my life again because of that piece of crap Asus Prime x370-pro.
@@GoofySmuf I can only run my ram at 2933 on that motherboard
With which CPU? First generation ryzen had some serious memory issues and I couldn't get my kit to run stable on the xmp values either. The 3600 I had worked just fine, same for the 5800x3d. 3200 mhz is the max limit of the board though, so I am still using the same sticks I bought in 2017. It's the G.Skill Ripjaws V F4-3200C16D-16GVKB kit, for completions sake.
@@jadedrivers6794 It was paired with Ryzen 1700 and DDR 3200, the memory controller failed both times. The second-generation Gigabyte Aurus board resolved the issue. The first failed out of warranty and I purchased a new one. When the second one failed I did a RMA and got a the gigabyte board.
Love the video length
Indeed, thats leet
What a way for AMD to finish off the AM4 line!
Took their latest mid-range CPU and turn it into an absolute monster in gaming, able to compete with both Intel's and their own flagships in game performance!
All that while barely changing the cost and power consumption
It's seriously impressive how it beats the 13900K at times which costs more than double the price.
wait so this is the last best am4 and from here on out is am5?
@@gavin9174 yes. It beats any ryzen cpu on the am4 chipset. No point in getting anything else if you're not planning on switching to am5. the 5900x is pretty bland ngl. Raw performance compared to the 5800x3d is pretty shallow. I would have recommended it before the 5800x3d came out but not anymore. Shit is slow as hell even though you can overclock it to 4.8ghz maybe more idk. I got rid of mine. :D
@aceofspades1701 what a out the r7 5800x
Excellent review!
Excellent video, Thank you! :)
Thanks a lot Brian for checking this out. The 3d chip is awesome for gaming with cheap ddr4 ram which is what most people are getting. The great thing is that you can get 64gb ram for the price of a ddr5 kit. As always, love your work.
that amount of ram is wtf? thats not a benefit... thats a waste of money. 16 is good enough for todays games.. 32 is high enough. 64..? u gotta be crazy.
@@Incinerate1212 i use chrome at always 90% with 16gb
32 GB of ddr5 5600 cl 36 is about 25$ more than 3600 cl16
@@sprakful It might make more sense to switch browsers
@@Incinerate1212 Depends on the use case. Some applications chug ram. If you are doing vms or data development then even 32gb gets pegged easy.
Much simpler way is to tweak the power limits (PPT, TDC, EDC) and use PBO2 Tuner to gain back the lost performance.
I'm not surprised at all about how the rtx 4090s sold out so fast, as there are other buyers besides gamers and miners. For example The 3D industry which was accustomed to quadro cards slowly got around to using the 3090, which is a powerhouse for 3D in a relatively cheap price. I'm sure a lot of those studios unhesitatingly upgraded to the 4090, time is money, and those cards double their performance over the 3090 in 3D rendering.
Dual rank ram (not the same as dual channel) is often overlooked when benching ryzen cpus, they offer a noticeable bump in performance
Good video, I bought a new CPU cooler for my 5900x will experiment with undervolting and PBO when it comes in.
I had a 3900x and even with the pbo bug bringing my clocks up to 4.6 ghz i often hovered around 60 fps in sons of the forest 1440p ultra. The 5800x3d carried me straight to 110 fps minimum on my 7900xtx. Incredible.
Just upgraded my Ryzen 3, 3100 & GTX 1650 4gb GPU to the 5800X3D & 3070Ti, such a huge difference! Great prices too
I'll take things we never heard in 2020-21 for a thousand Bob.
Just scored a 5800x for $216 after tax from my local (Dallas) microcenter. Night and day difference from my 2700x.
such a great cpu, can't wait for the new X3D parts comin Q2
I had 32GB of exactly that RAM kit, 3600mhz CL14, great kits, really good for overcloking and great looking ones.
got one during cyber monday sales and can't wait to benchmark!
Nice vid. I'd like to see your temps and cinebench scores at -5, -10, -15, -20, -25, -30 on the PBO curve. or at -20mv steps to -120mv using normal offset. very nice CPU and a valid option to the currently high priced AM5 platform to keep things going for another couple of years. best move by AMD to demo their 3D cache and give AM4 a really good send off. and recent price drop as well.
But you should also change PPT TDC and EDC. I´m using 105-80--95
You have no PBO ot overclock option on 5800x3d. You can only undervolt by traditional way by manualy offseting voltage in cpu menu.
@@johnrehak you can edit your pbo curve and limits in the negative direction with pbo tuner. The curve is there it’s just not exposed directly in bios or ryzen master for x3d.
Love my 5800x3D. Plan on holding onto it for years.
Here in Canada, you can get the cheapest B550 MOBO for about $150, but they come with VERY cheap VRM coolings. If you want to opt for a decent b550 mobo, they are just about the same price as a B660 intel mobo.
I'm using my 5800X3D in an Asus Prime B450-PLUS mobo and all the components are running cool and fine, and has no performance issues.
You should test this again using the 2600x and 2700x as well as the 3600x and 3700x, also against the 5950x. With black Friday deals coming up it might make more sense for the extra productivity performance the 5950x offers to go with it instead of the 5800x3d. I'm just worried about the 7900xtx or other future gpus bottlenecking my cpu even at 4k. I currently have a 2700x and I'm looking for a drop in upgrade to get the most out of my 7900xtx I'm getting in the future.
IMO best vid you have done in a while.
Love the vids
Great video.
This made me super excited as well as kind of frustrated to see you using the exact same motherboard for the testing with the CPU because that's awesome that a 5800x3d will run so well in my motherboard but goshdrrrngit how did you find it for 50 bucks?!! I paid 120 for mine and that was an open box price 😔 oh well, it's all paid off and I apparently got lucky for getting a motherboard that had all the accessories like the I/O shield, manual, and SADA cables.
I got it for similar price too
anything that has cheap or budget content in this channel is automatically a good video for me.
I just upgraded last week from the Ryzen 7 3700X to the Ryzen 9 5900X on my ASUS ROG Strix X570-E motherboard one of the best upgrades to date for me only had to upgrade my cooling fans my cheaper Corsair budget fans don't seem to be enough to keep the R9 cool under load was hitting 93C with a 240 AIO. The Corsair ML120 RGB ELITE Premium Magnetic Levitation with AirGuide should be enough to cool this great CPU(better be each three pack cost me $150 CAD + tax each)
Now the fun of installing six new fans begins lol
The 5800X3D cost a lot more then the R9 5900X in Canada as of last week
I love how you used teamgroup ram. A very underrated company and the ram is incredibly good.
I bought the 5800X3D because of the costs to jump on the AM5 platform, the motherboards especially . Saved me a fortune and will still last years at high end
since I'm finally at the point where I can upgrade, this test is super interesting. it's super fast in games and affordable. but with my current plans, I'm looking at lots of memory and a port heavy board.
I pretty much only game so I kept my AM4 and got a 5800X3D and instead of buying a whole new platform I put the money towards a 4090. AM4 has been the best value platform I have ever had and I will probably go AM5 when I do finally upgrade as you get so many upgrades on one board
great test
Got 5800X3d and XFX 6950XT, both undervolted, and they do more then even expected, blown away with the performance. Coming from 5700x and 6700 XT.
I am trying to get into AM4 and probably 6700XT from 4790k and 980Ti xD
Is it that much of a jump. I have a 5700x and XFX 6750xt. Looking at moving to the 5800x3d and a XFX 6800XT or 7800XT if the price and performance is worth it.
I have same setup with 32gb 8 pack 3200 cl 14 and it's a beast of a machine
I think the 5800X3D and the 13600K are both excellent highest end options, both offering pretty good value. As for which one I would go for depends on specific deals I could score. Usually AMD with ryzen wins here, so it would probably be that.
I think you can get the same performance using an MSI b450 + ddr4 3600 CL18 with an updated bios
Didn't end up purchasing the R7 5800X3D, but ended up getting a R7 5700X. I used the remainder of the CPU budget to top up my graphics card budget, which got me a Sapphire Pulse RX 6750 XT, because the card was discounted until it was similarly priced with a RX 6700 XT from the same manufacturer.
Smart choice, it's always better go for a more powerful gpu, especially if you play at least 1440p where most cpus are equalized and when not it doesn't matter whether it runs at 300 or 400 fps.
@@kerotomas1 my 144hz monitor will bottleneck the FPS anyway, and I'm not so much a competitive gamer who needs ultra silky smooth framerates. Some multiplayer games that I play like ARMA 3 are not particularly well optimized, so good luck pushing beyond 60fps without the game running like hot mess.
what did you pay for your saphire?
@@DDHDTV after conversion into US Dollars, roughly around US$396. The regular pricing in my country for the Sapphire Pulse RX 6750 XT is typically around US$500+ (after conversion).
@@kerotomas1 when i bought 5800x3D i still had 32GB DDR at3200 CL16. I game only at 1440p and VR. So, when i finally bought 32GB 3600 CL6, gained in some games 5 to 15 FPS. It is really a fantastic CPU.
It will be interesting to see if they hit the same notes with perhaps a 7800x3D or 8800x3D on AM5 that would be just as tangibly beneficial.
Loved the video, but wish you'd used some CPU intensive ganes like Civ 6.
I just dropped my new 5800X3D into my rig last night. It was a huge upgrade from my 3700. I am looking forward to finishing the rest of my build and adding in the new graphics card!
I also went from 3700x to 5800x3d and I have been really impressed. With a good GPU your set for a good while on that cpu
Did you have to upgrade the Bios? I am picking up one today. My MB is a Asus B550M-C. Currently running a R5 3,600. Hoping i can just plug and play it
@@11bravo1789 I did not have to upgrade the bios on my ASUS ROG Strix B550-F gaming MB.
Great video, it really is a fantastic CPU. Put my 5900x in a server and swapped for the 3d for gaming, it's been a huge improvement in some titles
what titles?
How much better is the 3d?. Wondering wether to swap my 5900x for one.
@@69baker69able i got +3% fps in SOTR on 1440p with 3080. But difference gets wider once a better GPU will be added.
Ryzen 5000 undervoltng is a bit more complicated than the negative core offset, optimum tech made a great video on this issue, the correct method to undervolt is to use curve optimizer in the BIOS, I'd suggest that you check it out!
you cant use pbo in the bios on a 5800x3d. the only option is a git hub application inside windows that will apply a pbo offset. the settings are hidden on all bios for 5800x3d.
@@Demon09-_- some mobos allow it, its weird. and i heard theres some bios tricks to enable the pbo section on other boards.
@@Demon09-_- you can with asus mobos. There is PPT TDC EDC under advanced settings.
The windows software option is the easiest. I just set it once at -30 all core and use windows scheduler to run the program at boot and it's awesome. I'm getting 4.55ghz single core and 4.4ghz all core under synthetic loads and dropped temperatures by more than 10 degrees. No downside.
@@8bitchiptune420 ppt tdc and edc are not pbo though. Pbo changes the voltage curve. Those settings change power limits. Pbo will reduce temps at all ranges the power limits will lower heat at maximum power but also cost you some performance.
Me to, I couldnt find the 3D so just got the 5600x. I'm so happy with it and constantly overclock to reduce power consumption.
I purchased one myself and received it last week. Waiting on a used x570 MB to arrive for testing myself. Cant wait to see the difference from the 5900x that is in my main rig.
Big difference in some games compared to my 5600x so you should see a difference. Game dependant though obviously. Some titles won't feel much difference and in the games that benefit from the 3D model, it's night and day difference (imo).
@@J.D_7 oh good I getting excited to try it out. Wonder what version of the B550 MB Brian is using? I checked the B550 Plus-wifi and it comes with 10 power stages and the B550 pro has 14 power stages. Wonder if that would make UV more stable if any difference at all?
Hey, Brian. Any chance you can test the 7600X with a cheap DDR5-4800 CL40 vs the 13600K/DDR4-3600 CL18? It would be interesting to see a gap in the gaming performance between two relatively affordable builds that are equal in price while aiming to upgrade the 7600X for a faster RAM in future to get its benefits of the gaming performance? Right now DDR5-4800 CL40 is priced pretty cheap but we don't know how it slows down the 7600X.
This was the final showdown when it came to moving on from my 10850K. Buy a new platform with a 13600K, or slot in a 5800X3D onto my X570 board that had been sitting around collecting dust. I opted for the 5800X3D once I saw the price come down to $329. For $330 it breathed new life into a bunch of my games and all that cache is especially beneficial for big open-world games which I play a lot of. It's an amazing slot-in upgrade, though I would still recommend a 13600K if you're building from scratch.
So is 5800x3D that much better than i9 10850k?
@@TheKelz - Yes it is. I have a 120hz monitor, and the 10850K struggles to maintain a consistent 120fps in many of the games I play, but the 5800x3D does it with no problem. Even in some poorly-optimized older games like Fallout 4, the 5800x3D stays locked at 120fps everywhere, whereas with the 10850K, it's basically impossible to maintain a consistent framerate in the notoriously laggy downtown areas of the game.
The 5800x3D is such an improvement that I don't even think about my 10850K anymore.
Mine comes tomorrow. . . mind you I am more getting it for the long term than to be high end now, but I like odd games too that benefit from the cache
i downloaded the PBO2 tuner and have it set to -30 on start up and wake up on my 5800x3d. The temps and watts are really good. ill be gaming in the 50s with an air cooler
I recently bought a Ryzen 7 5800x3D paired it with my B350 Tomahawk with a 2666 MHz ram, insane performance uplift, I upgraded from Ryzen 5 1600. TOTALLY worth it. I would recommend it, this CPU is just a BEAST.
Get some 3600 or faster ram and you will be absolutely blown away by it bro
@@Cr0frog dude he have MSI B350 MOBO he can't up to 3600
I upgraded my 5800X w/ PBO2 to a 5800X3D which can't really be OC'd. With a 3070 Ti at 1440p, Horizon Zero Dawn ultra setting, DLSS Quality, went from 112 FPS to 138 FPS (Now runs at 150 FPS out of the blue but I did just upgrade the GPU driver and pushed my 3800MHz RAM to 4000MHz and set FCLK to 2000?) Shadow of the Tomb Raider with Ultra settings and RT shadows only went about 8FPS to 123 avg FPS. In both games, I used the built-in benchmark.
Bryan, I used brake clean and WD40 on my old B85, brought back a dead memory channel.
going to sell it on soon.
I this combo 4090 and 5800x3d. Very happy
I was blown away by the 5800X3D even upgrading from 5600x
What specifically impressed you?
@@selohcin fps in literally every game. it was around 40% more frames.
I just got this CPU and paired it with a 3070 ti ex 8gb and 32gb of 3200 ram and a 1tb nvme ssd and I have zero complaints. I can play every game on max settings with close to 200 fps or more at 1080p 165hz.
It's a remarkable CPU. I believe it performs well for database workloads as well.
LOL RUclips just learned I installed the 5800X3D today...and your video popped up haha. Its paired with my RX 6800! Fuck I love this CPU 2x 2TB Samsun 980 Pros, 32GB (2X16) 3600Mhz RAM my computer is now a beast. Mother board is a Aorus X570 Ultra paid AUD$519 NEW for this little beast
I agree, the cost of platform really lends to AM4. I got my 5800X3D on sale, a used B550 (carrier over Ram & storage, gpu) & away I went. Perfect used combo.
i have sale in my country and it CPU was cost more then all his cheap ddr4 platform.
@@saint9487 Ouch, perhaps there is an international seller that has a better deal. If you can, hold out. I'm amazed that I held onto my 6700k for as long as I did. Bought it new when it 1st release (2014).
@@MrMoxes i build my pc in 2014 i5 3470 so yeah no chance to upd, even i go in other country what i heave neare me it will cost 20% lower only, no i can`t but it and from DHL bc we have EU limits 200euro box and in you buy something you will pay 50+- % of cost.
@@saint9487 Ah, so you know what Im talking about. I suppose you could wait until the price comes down, or buy it at 20%. Hard to decide.
Better use the PBO Tuner v2 for the X3D. Getting 14800 in CR23 multicore with -26/-26/-28/-28/ 4x -30, reduced wattage from 138W to 113W.
currently have a 1700x and waiting for for the 7800x3d that is hopefully gonna come out early next year
Greetings from Spain. Great video. Would you rather perform a curve optimizer instead of this 50mV undervolt? I find these two ways to tune this processor and don't know wich is better.
Ive just upgraded from a 3600 to a 5800X3D and wow it felt like a whole new pc.Absolute beast of a cpu
Huge leap right!??? That CPU is a BANGER!!!
what GPU are you running?
@@Martsims9 RTX 3060TI
Iam on 3060 Ti (1440p monitor) was that really such a big change? Iam really curious...
@@geeker9545 I use a 1440p 144htz monitor and yes the difference was massive bud
10:39 that tiny dot hurt my heart
Just ordered the 5800x3d to replace my 2700x. Going to try the under volt when it comes.
I have similar, FE4090, 3200 CL16 ram, Asus B550 board, and swapped out a 5800x for the 5800x3d. Though I do have it on a 240mm AIO.
I also used PBO2 Tuner (software that lets you unvervolt per core) and got -30 on all cores. In Cinibench R23 it pegs each core at 4450Hz and gets over 15k score.
I had the same gobsmacked result in the Tombraider benchmark and other games.
Cyberpunk is not much faster in top FPS terms but two things I noticed playing it (1) it is a lot smoother (2) you get much more fps in crowded areas
The 5300x3d run cooler than the 5800x and with teh 4090 the whole system is a lot cooler than my previous hot-box 5800x+FE3080
I did this so I can remain on my existing AM4 setup and wait a year to see the14th gen intel or Ryzen new 7000 x3d.
In the meanwhile, I just have to get rid of the 5800x :)
Thank you for the VIdeo. I just got my 5800x3d. Undervolting for tmep reasons at least till i can get a new Aio or Air cooler tbat can handel it.
Shadow of the tomb raider is a very good memory benchmark, so what its doing is using the huge vcache probably storing the whole benchmark in the cache or close to it. Ive been able to get a 5900x up to 295fps with ddr4 3600 c14, and more recently 350fps on my 7950x ddr5 6000 c30
wait for next 7950x3d it will be beast crazy...
I have a 5800x3d right here. I am just waiting for my new cooler to arrive before I can install it.
You forgot to mention that it's a drop in upgrade even on old 300 series AM4 motherboards. That is it's main strength, squeezing out one more upgrade on your old hardware. I put one in my Asrock X370 Taichi that i bought on Ryzen 1700 release day. It have served me well through many years and multiple CPU upgrades!
I have an old MSI x370 board that I thought about dropping a 5800x3D in and grabbing one of the new AMD cards. I'm worried about the PCIE 3.0 slot for the GPU bottlenecking any of the latest high end GPUs.
@@jeremyz6911 You will not lose much. 1-2% at most if any. 3.0 x16 is enough.
I have a X370 MSI with a ryzen 1700 - good to know, I was wondering if it will work... xD Any downsides?
@@MntRprznt None. Just make sure you flash your bios to the version required to enable 5000 series support before swapping cpu's. And some people report the 5800x3d running "hot". While I had no such issues, maybe re-evaluate your cooling solutions.
@@MntRprznt Not really, the 1-2% you will lose will not be noticeable, 1700->5800x3d is a MASSIVE update. I haven't seen any downsides at all except not having PCIE 4.0 but i can live without it.
Just make sure your board have support for it before you order the CPU. All major manufacturers should have an upgraded BIOS but you never know until you check.
Also update the board with the Ryzen 5000 supported BIOS before you pop the new CPU in, otherwise it won't boot.
Just bought this along with a 6950xt! I know there are new gpus but this will be enough for my 1440p needs
Bought a 3080ti a while ago, which I was running with my 3700X. Recently swapped that out for a 5800X3D and the difference is just Amazing. Really happy!
How big of a difference did you notice in what games? Do you play at 1440p?
TechYesBrian voice of reason!;-)
Im fighting the urge to upgrade from my 3600 then this video shows up.
I went from a 2700x to 5800x, when sending it out for RMA i could tell how slow the 2700x was. I'm only running a Vega 64 but even that got an fps boost especially in unlocked fps gaming.
I bought 5800X on AE using summer sale, for about $250 and it was amazing
not as good as 5800X3D but I don't think it is worth upgrading yet
also got X570 PG4 for $60 so that was W
Still plenty for gaming for years to come
@@ismaelsoto9507 yes and actual cores are the same, so you are just paying for 60MB or so cache, I might be buying newer CPU wjtn 3D-v cache tho
@@petertrex I see, and Zen 4 with V-Cache sure will be a beast for gaming
Yea its down to that now and would be an amazing start to a new build. I thought about picking up a 5700g because i just wanted to mess around with an amd apu and its really dropped in price. I fill like amd is probably selling more last gen cpu’s than the new stuff mainly because of the price cuts and cheaper motherboard’s and ram. And last gen was more power efficient. I use a 5950x and 5800x3d and I’m waiting on 7000 series 3dvcache models or model.
@@ChadKenova 5700G is good one too, but man you rockin' 5950X and 5800X3D? Got nice and juicy performance there....
I'm so jealous of the used parts prices over there. I can barely find a decent b450 for around 55 dollars in my country. Same thing with memory and other components.
$55 is pretty good actually
Me too I upgrade from an r7 3700x and I can tell that it’s a massive jump in term of FPS for 1080p 240hz 🎉🎉🎉
Just upgraded from my 3600 to this today. Fallout 4, in downtown boston (a notoriously CPU-intensive area thanks to bugthesda optimisation) I went from 45-60 fps to 120-144. A great upgrade for 350 pounds.
You at 1080 or 1440 bro
a320m-k incoming!! beast of a motherboard, did cost me 20 euros here in germany, and kicks ass so hard :D
that b550 is a steal for 50 usd used. I run my 5800x3d on the b550m and it also has zero issues with the 5800x3d. 120w max power draw is pretty easy for a board to handle so it makes sense you don't need alot for it. I will suggest using pbo tuner 2 in windows. Most 5800x3d chips ive seen can do -30 on all cores but make sure to test with core cycler and other programs. as its easy to start getting performance degredation or clock streching in ryzen but still be stable underload.
Just got one and it runs so cool just looking at Radeon 7000 series to change my 5700xt for
yes but if you go the 13th gen intel route that was reported to be the last path for that socket. The 5800X 3D is great for people already on AM4 and AM5 still has ways to go with regards to price cuts but the platform should be good for 3+ years.
If you upd system in next 3 years yeah it make sens go am5 but if not, you will better stay ddr4 , udk in my country only 5800X3D Cost by self 525$
That Wovibo looks like Assassin King 120 SE from Thermaltake.
I honestly did this same thing just last night(undervolting). Did pair it with the more 'spensive RAM though 3600mhz CL14.
Can you do another one of the extreme budget pc’s like $100 or less. With the drop of gpu prices and launches of new platforms there some great prices for older hardware.
ebay has a bunch of what was once considered mid tier pcs for around $400. I really dont think $100 is enough for anything.
I have a 6900xt paired with a xeon e5 2690v1 on a x79. I think it's time to upgrade. That 6000 multicore point ain't cutting it. I do love the smooth experience and the high 0.1 -1% lows but i'm doing mainly productivity tasks...
Nice video though hoped to see more info on temp during。But anyway do you think with a mesh case a master cooler hyper would do a decent job keeping it cool enough?
The 5800X3D is my budget upgrade path for the future. Just buy a used B450/ 550 mobo with a Ryzen 2700/ 3600 these days and max it out in like 2-3 years and still get a respectable performance!
To do a similar trick with Intel it would mean to buy a 12100/ 12400F these days and go for the 13600 or even higher in 2-3 years.