PSA 5.7 Rock vs Smith and Wesson M&P 2.0
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2023
- Paul tests two 5.7x28mm handguns against each other.
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Hey everyone,
At 1:53 I say that the S/W is a "striker action." It is not. It is a single action autoloader.
This is a manifestation of the speech impediment that I sometimes mention. It can be very bothersome, especially when I don't notice I said it until someone points it out.
One thing to note about the M&P is that it uses a gas-operated recoil system, which might be the source of the malfunctions. Other pistols have tried gas-operated systems in the past, none of which have been particularly successful. Thanks for the video Paul, entertaining as always.
Everyone misspeaks, I think you're being a little hard on yourself.
The correction is appreciated though.
I had to check because I've seen the M&P labeled as striker fired before, even when I purchased my 380.
Sure enough, on Smith and Wesson's site, in the tech specs for the M&P, they call it striker fired. So according to the manufacturer, you're still correct.
However, there is a distinct possibility, you know more about firearms then Smith and Wesson does....
I don't think they're mutually exclusive. From my understanding some striker-fired models (Glocks and Kahrs) are DAO strikers, in that striker is half primed and pulling the trigger pulls it back the rest of the way before releasing it. Other pistols (XD9 or P320) are single action strikers, in that the striker is fully primed, and the trigger pull disengages the internal safety before releasing the striker.
@@erickyle5604 Nope, this gun in caliber 5.7 is *not* striker fired. Check again specifically on the 5.7 model on the home page, and you'll see it says "Internal hammer-fired" there.
The ability to shoot all around a bottle with 22 rounds and not hit it on purpose is the evidence you’re watching an amazing shooter.
I was laughing my backside off! He made silhouettes of both jugs in the dirt. Brilliant.
If I was actually aiming for the jug, I'd probably have put the rounds in the dirt just like Paul.
Pfft. I can do that completely on accident. Go me. Yay.
That shite was funny.
Mr. Paul often refers to himself as an average shooter. With respect, I call bullshit.
The pure science behind the 22 shot magazine vs. the 23 shot magazine test is the reason I watch this channel.
Paul is the best
Agreed 👍
You be the judge
@@michaeldoe4805Beat me by 2 seconds.
Came here for the cringy man-crush comments. You didn’t disappoint
Facts back by data 😊
Still praying for you Paul. Always enjoy your honest straight forward videos.
GOD bless y'all
What happened to Paul?
@@MozerDozer404 He has pancreatic cancer.
Paul in OD fatigues is like a collector variant you only see in that one store at the mall you have to drive 2 hours away to get to.
A rare shiny Pokémon.
Amazing to see how a small change like blacking out the sights white dots improved accuracy 100%, I laughed so hard on that set up soda jug shoot out. Paul your dark humour was impressive there. Get well soon, as always gun free Australia is rooting for you.
That flies in the face of the current fad of high visibility dot sights, no doubt.
He was quick about putting the rounds close and fast without hitting the bottles until he wanted to. Any time he is dealing with trolls he brings humor into it.
You've given up and let the emus run the show!
but its not gun free
Sure wish you could show us a 5.7 vs. redback spiders video! Great to see you here, Leo.
We should all be supporting PSA. They're listening to customers requests and making really cool stuff with MORE features for amazing prices. The Rock, Jakyl and Daggers are just some of the guns guys asked for. Support companies like this so the others get a clue some day.
They get my business BECAUSE they sell direct to the customer instead of a middleman distributor.
@@Hjerte_Verke And it isn't that they *won't* sell to a distributor - the distributor already knows the prices are reflective of having the middleman cut out, so they're already getting them for essentially the same price as a normal, distributor-priced firearm. It's just that the SAME price is given to the customer directly. Essentially the local shop just wants MORE opportunities for profit without telling you "we're charging extra". I've bought numerous PSA products through my local dealers and they never batted an eye - Paul's just working with someone who got their panties in a twist, it seems, however much they may be helpful/friendly in other ways.
my lgs is more than happy to take my transfer fee on guns from psa bc they know ill buy that guns accessories and ammo from him so he considers it a win win situation
@p00lboy yeah, it's all a matter of perspective. On the one hand Paul's dealer *does* have a point. On the other, if the dealer *knows* the guns are already being sold at wholesale prices, he could just ask if the customer is willing to pay a little extra for him to order it and explain the situation. I like my LGS, I'll often buy a gun from them instead of buying online, even if it costs a little bit more, just to help keep them in business.
@@cavalieroutdoors6036 I definitely see what you're saying, but in my opinion they should be thankful to have such a loyal well-known customer who buys multiple guns and mountains of ammo from them and happily order whatever he wants. Definitely not say NO or have a discussion about how PSA sells directly to customers online for prices shops cant beat!
Paul literally went somewhere else and they ordered it for him no problem! That's really poor business practices. As a business owner myself, we always give loyal customers incredible service and their loyalty repays us many times over by referrals and a lifetime of future projects. A loyal customer is worth more than a bunch of random people off the street. What if that other shop he went to had something Paul really liked and he decided to just do business there now? All over a single sale they couldn't mark up. Thats no good.
The soda jug test was just another testament to Paul's shooting capability, very impressive to take that many shots, from that distance, that quickly, impacting that close to the target without hitting one until the last intended hit.
On the wholesale thing; I have a friend who runs a large-ish dealership here. He tells me that he doesn't really care about these sorts of things because he doesn't make any real profit off of gun sales anyways. I've heard the same thing from other dealers and I believe them because most of the dealers I've been to charge a credit card fee. Companies do that when their profit margin is so low that they can't afford to adsorb the transaction fee from credit card processors
My point is, if you want to support your local gun dealers, you need to buy more than just guns. Buy something else while you're there
Absolutely. I try to buy any ammunition or accessories that I possibly can from my local gun shops. It usually isn't much more expensive anyway, than going to a larger place like Bass Pro, Cabela's, Sportsman's Warehouse, etc.
His preferred gun shop must be only charging a nominal fee for facilitating the transfer. One shop in my area charges $150!!
My independent LGS told me he’s lucky to make $50 on a gun. He’s fine with $30 to transfer PSA purchases.
@@michaelprather8371 $150 is the highest charge I've heard of. That's a crazy number.
The 22 versus 23-shot magazine comparison was excellent. Thanks for keeping everyone honest, Paul
Our guy just spent ~$25 to poke fun at the significance of +1 capacity. Paul's the best.
@@YourTokenGinger "5.7 has a buff against poor people,- The Russian Badger.
Another point for the Rock is that PSA frequently has sales on their website, making an already pretty affordable gun even better
Yeah, but Paul has a good point. you want to physically handle the gun you're thinking about purchasing, before you hand money over for them. Plus there are plenty of guns that get stellar reviews on the internet that when you get in your hands you realize it just isn't for you. And you wouldn't know that until you physically have it in your hands.
Agreed, PSA knocks prices and features out of the park. No other company is even coming close right now.
They were 300 bucks recently for a non threaded, iron sight model. Insane price for a 23rd 5.7 pistol.
@@KrikZ32 Especially considering the FN or Ruger models are like 3-4 times that price.
@@ArchiveAmerica They sell directly to the consumer knocking out the middleman price markup, which is what we're talking about here anyway. They really want their product in Everyman Joe's hands. Just find an FFL that charges a low transfer fee and you're set to take advantage of those savings.
Paul, I am so glad that you were able to eliminate that soda jug on the 23rd shot. It was getting pretty aggressive.
But the other jug was still alive, someone needs to check on Paul.
@@buddha8204 Off camera, Paul shot it with a Barrett .50. 😮
Most important thing I got from this video: CAPACITY MATTERS. Even if it's just one bullet. Thanks Paul for demonstrating that👍👍👍
99.99% of the time it wouldn't. But you might be in the lucky, or unlucky, situation where one round more, saves your life. If you're in a situation where you need that 23rd bullet, I'd definately call that unlucky. But then, that's generally how my luck goes, lol. Though I've been lucky enough to not need any so far. Knock on wood.
It saved his bacon
I used to hunt with a single shot 22 when you're limited you make every shot count, and learn to be ammo efficient, but yes more is better.
For the Smith & Wesson, just rack the slide like Paul demonstrates, eject the magazine and load one more round into it then smack it hard to seat the magazine. Et voila, 23 rds!
@@GUNNER67akaKelt I found the guy who missed the joke. ... or that guy who hangs out in gun shops.
The soda jug test reminded me of the A-team. Think about how much talent needed to miss that close.
I love PSA stuff so much. It's usually cheaper and just as good, if not better than old school brands. I live 5 minutes away from a PS Armory in South Carolina, and i go there a lot. Their "standard" cheap ARs and PSA AKs are really good too.
Paul makes it seem like NOT using middlemen for markup is a bad thing somehow. I am perfectly fine with the PSA model that sells direct to consumer, since their prices are so much more competitive than anyone else.
Paul, you don't need to use a speedloader to get the m&p mags loaded. Just get an intern for the show and make him load all your magazines for you.
One nice thing about the PSA Rock's 23-round magazines are that they work in my Ruger 57 and my LC Carbine. They are not necessarily drop free in the Ruger's, but they otherwise function flawlessly. And the mags are also just a little bit cheaper.
If I hadn't already owned the Ruger 57, I most certainly would have picked up a PSA Rock.
That's good info. Be cool to have that info pinned.
The Ruger is a far superior weapon. PSA is junk.
@@skigdividerx4991a lot of people seem to really like their Rock. What makes it junk?
I'm a PSA hater because of the customer service I've gotten. People come to my shop to pick up stuff they order off their site and when it's screwed up they bring it to me to fix. If you just own one or two products of theirs you may be ok but if you see a higher volume of their crap you would see that they send out a ton of junk. I ordered a rifle kit from them just a few weeks ago and the front sight was so crooked it looked like it was put on with a hammer. Ask yourself where exactly does all that stuff come from!! Nobody really does. I'll pay more because I know from experience what is quality for the money and whats junk. @@rob6850
@@skigdividerx4991Thats a "special kind of stupid" response. I personally own all three, and would put the "Rock" at the top of the list over all, the Smith & Wesson 5.7 next in line, and the Ruger 5.7 after that. The S&W has the best trigger pull out of all three, only slightly better than the "Rock" after the rock's trigger wears in. The Ruger has the least desirable trigger out of the three. I love them all. With a response like yours, you also probably have a favorite vaccine.
Thanks Paul for all the effort you put into these videos. I live in Missouri and my father and I have been big fans of you and your videos for a few years. Keep safe.
Thank you Paul really enjoy every video you make.
Thank you Paul. Don't mean to inflate the comment section with extraneous remarks, but watching your videos genuinely makes my day. Thank you for everything you and crew do for us.
I had no intention of buying a 5.7 unit I was browsing PSAs website and found the Rock on sale for 299. Just couldn’t pass it up. Very nice handgun. And extra mags are only 20 bucks. Great job PSA!
4:50 One of my favorite lines in that regard: "Eliminating the 'Middle Man' is never as simple as it sounds. 'Bout half of mankind are 'Middle Men' and they don't take kindly to being eliminated."
After he blacked out the sites on the PSA he shot a 5 round group, on S&W after blacking out the sites it was an 8rd group.
If he'd stopped at 5 on the S&W with the blacked out sites the group would have been way better then it ended up.
Not sure why the groups weren't the same number of rounds 🤔
I would never have thought that making a sarcastic point by shooting at a two liter bottle with a pistol was possible but Paul pulled it off effortlessly. I'm sure we all got it. 🤓
"Gee, I sure wish I had less rounds in my magazine", said nobody in a firefight ever.
A late night Paul Harrell video? Score!
PH has convinced me! Nothing but 23 round magazines from now on! Wimpy 22 rounds can't compete!
As someone in a jurisdiction where handguns have been made illegal. This was still an entaining review
Will you be able to move ?
Thank you Paul for taking the time and 100 bucks to demonstrate the importance of 22 vs 23 round magazines.
“We really need our local dealers”
More ammo for “Paul Harrell out of Context”
I have a complaint!!! Where are the Pop Tarts?
Seriously Thank You Paul and Crew for all of your work.
I have finally heard Mr. Harrell say "this one fits my hand better." after a long time. My soul is satisfied. He just fits my head better.
I love the proliferation of 5.7 (have both a Ruger 57 and a PS90). Light recoil, high capacity, sufficiently effective ballistically (about like a .22 mag).
Yeah hopefully a company will make a compact version for concealed carry soon.
Seems like using the threaded barrel, suppressing 5.7, would be sort of fruitless.
@@troy3456789you're never going to get rid of the crack unless you load it subsonic and then it's basically a .22lr. Might fit some applications but not many.
@@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 That's kinda what i was thinking. The whole boost behind the 5.7 is its blazing hot speed. Just seemed odd to me they put it natively on both firearms.
Much better than .22 mag in a pistol, approximately equal to .22 WMR in a rifle.
Thank you Paul for posting. Love you videos.
Its a badly kept secret that you can fit 24 rounds in the mags of the psa, but that is more for loading the +1 rather than going for a 25 round loadout. I picked the psa because at the time it had the features I wanted at a price point I could afford. With the optic I choose it is(HE507c accs vulcan) with the extendo 30 round mags from excess arms its become my favorite side arm. Good review.
30rds lol how big is that mag?
That's awesome tho, gotta have the stick!
Only comes out like a 2 inches off the grip, wouldn't conceal carry with it in the gun. But it does fit easily in a decent sized pocket. @@linkbond08
The agility of that first soda was incredible 😄
I always forget how much PSA relies on the internet to sell their products, I’ve always lived near one so i rarely ever use their site to purchase anything just check inventory.
wish they had more storefronts...wanted to drop in and pick up a ROCK this weekend, but am on the wrong side of the country from the Carolinas
@@ShastaBean well they’ve already expanded to GA and NC, so maybe they’ll eventually spread your way.
Great video Paul, I must say the soda jug on the right was terrified, it just knew what was coming
As always, Paul Harrell delivers a honest evaluation of 2 handguns. He tells us "his" preference, but clearly states that each of us should make our own evaluation.
Love me some Paul Harrell honesty!
Thanks for all your efforts Paul!
Where's Paul's jacket? Without Paul's jacket, he won't have infinite ammo!
Paul sold me with the 22 vs 23 shot magazine demonstration! I'm only going to own pistols that hold at least 23 rounds from now on!
I'm still stuck in the old school 7 round vs. 8 round debate. So I bought a couple of 8 round magazines and put them in the 7 round guns. Problem solved.
11:49 Mr. Harrel is a man of many talents. For the first time ever, he showed us how to aerate, and then water, a lawn.
Having trouble sleeping, and a new Paul video appears. God is good.
According to their website, the Smith and Wesson has an internal hammer rather than a striker.
He's not gonna like that correction....
Thanks for the video Paul. I am very happy with my PSA Rock.
No! I am a gunsmith with an FFL. I charge $20 per pistol, $10 goes to my state, and I charge $15 per long gun. Order from PSA and ship to me for my transfer prices. Forget these gun shops who try to make additional profit on transfers. The are being greedy. I am being greedy. There is nothing but my time involved in a transfer. It comes to me via whatever shipper. I sign for it. I log it into my inbound/outbound book. Takes like 30 seconds. You show up. You fill out the 4473. I watch. I check your ID. I fill out my portions. I log into the NICS system and run your BG check. You get approved. I fill out the outbound in my book. Hand you the "Weapon." Done. Whole thing can take as little as 5 minutes. Charging $35 plus for that is garbage.
It is how shops stay in business
@@lucky43113 Yeah, but if they were being reasonable with their transfer fees, word would get around pretty quick. They'd be moving enough guns to more than make up for it. Besides, they wouldn't have to have any inventory of product, so everything they make would be profit (after the state gets their cut).
I have not been charged less than $30 😑
@lucky43113 Yeah but to lie to Paul and say that they don't make any money because Palmetto is the seller is bogus when the entire transfer fee in most cases goes to them.
every time i watch one of these vids no matter how silly or nonsensical i always learn something and have a good chuckle so thank you paul and also thanks for making me consider the more realistic side of concealed carry.
Paul! you are looking great! I am praing for you! Greetings from Brazil!
Good video, as usual.
I have the Smith, and you’re right about the mag seating issue; it’s tough when the slide is down, regardless of whether the mag is full or not. Takes a good hard whack to seat it, and that was responsible for one of the two malfunctions I’ve had; the other was a neck separation of a reload. That mag seating problem is common to the M&Ps apparently, as my Shield plus is the same way. Makes tactical reloads tricky. Aside from those, it’s run perfectly through several hundred rounds of factory as well as about 50 reloads. I improved the fit to my hand with a Hogue grip sleeve. I also recommend putting some Loctite on the thread cover on the end of the barrel as it gets loose otherwise and might get lost.
BTW, the S&W is actually hammer-fired, with a small internal hammer, which is partly responsible for the excellent trigger pull.
Thanks.
Paul could be comparing dish soap and sponges and I'd still watch his videos. His presentation is impeccable.
Thanks again, Paul, for the simple fact that you show us an immediate conversational style with no extraneous details; no sunglasses, no beard, no tatts, no ball cap pulled down snug over your eyes. Seen more than my fair share of that pop up in my feed and all those (the sunglasses especially) are cues that the presenter doesn't want to be level or frank with the viewers. Declining to show one's eyes is a natural act of deception.
Yeah, ... Unlike so many RUclips gun guys, Paul doesn't seem to have the need for all of the "Operator" trappings. No extensively bulked up arms, with more tattoos than bare areas, no dark sunglasses, and no sign of the obligatory "Operators" beard, that screams macho studliness ! Very refreshing.
The soda jug scene was hilarious.
I agree. Perfectly executed sarcasm in the legendary Paul Harrell style.
The smith and wesson 5.7 is internal hammer fired, not striker actioned. This is what allows it to have such a good trigger.
Are you sure the m&p 2.0 is hammer fired? Paul doesn't make simple mistakes like this lol
@@JasonHenderson There's no such thing as the "Smith and Wesson M&P 5.7 2.0" that I can find anywhere. S&W released the M&P 5.7 in March and it's the only 5.7 handgun gun on their website. It is definitely an internal hammer fired gun, and I've got one sitting in front of me. I believe Paul either is reviewing some unreleased, unannounced gun or made two mistakes: incorrectly named the gun & incorrectly stated it is a striker fired gun.
Edit: also I can't believe I am about to make it through a Paul Harrell shooting video and never ONCE does he tell us what ammo he is using. There's multiple target-grade ammos for 5.7 handguns, and one of them is utter crap. It would be nice to know what Paul was using and I don't know why he wouldn't tell us!
FWIW, I have used only FN & Fiocchi ammo in my M&P 5.7 and I have had zero failures of any kind after 650 rounds through it (4 boxes of Fiocchi range dynamics and one 50 round box of FN SS195LF). I have no issues seating the magazines with or without the slide open, but it will fail to engage if you overload the magazine to 23 rounds instead of the rated capacity of 22. It's the most accurate handgun for me and I can shoot much better groups than Paul has shown here, but Paul is absolutely without a doubt a much better shooter than me BY A LOT. Something ain't right there!
I agree that the PSA is a better value, has 1 more round of capacity, and hands down, the ergonomics of the PSA Rock are the best of any of the 5.7 guns. PSA knocked it outta the park. The hammer fired, tempo barrel system with a crazy good trigger is why I bought the M&P, however.
I love Paul but this video has big time problems.
The FN FiveseveN is also hammer fired and it has a completely garbage trigger. The Ruger 57 is also hammer fired and its trigger isn't great but is definitely better than FN's version. PSA Rock is the only striker-fired 5.7x28 handgun available atm and has a trigger that is maybe just a little less good than the M&P. I have the M&P but the ergos on the PSA are unbeatable, imo.
@@brassmule I don't doubt it. I find it odd when he said it's striker fired. Paul usually knows what he's talking about
@@JasonHenderson Paul may not have disassembled and cleaned the m&p before the video. I have both pistols and my m&p had some hick ups out of the box, when I cleaned it I found that it had a larger than normal amount of that copper colored factory grease on it. Grease seemed to slow the slide down just a bit. Cleaned and used my normal lube before the next range trip and didnt have any problems with it.
Good thing you had that 23rd round, I was starting to worry about your safety for a bit.
Thanks for all you do, Paul
Missing like that was a more impressive display of precision than nailing them in one shot on each which is what I expected.
Good presentation.
I was expecting all hits with both, showing no real difference.
5.7 is such an interesting round, if not an expensive one
Its not too bad on price. Its been steadily coming down over the years.
@@JP-ro2yikinda the benefit of more guns using it being put on the market
The problem with the 5.7 for me was when the Belgians made it, it was that no civilian could buy the military grade high velocity ammo for it. I don't know if that is still the case or not. It was originally designed to defeat body armor and inflict significant wounds in humans, with little recoil.
@@troy3456789 I don’t think there was much a difference in velocity but the way the bullet was made that made it AP
I saw a box of it today for 74.99 a box of 20.
I've done some business with PSA found the quality of their products to be very good. functional and affordable. My main gun dealer is ok with making a quick fee on the shipping and registration. plus he gets most of my business and I support him as much as I can. Wow with that green outfit I could barely see you. Good job of camouflage. Those were tricky soda bottles I saw them dodging and bobbing good thing you got that one with your extra round, it looked dangerous!!
The 22 vs 23 round magazine gag was hysterical. Classic Paul!
I like the trigger on the PSA. I like everything about it including the $299 price.
Thanks for the insight. I don't know that I'll ever actually go for a 5.7, but I think about it occasionally, and this presentation helps with that theoretical decision. For what it's worth, I have had good experiences with a PSA Dagger in 9mm as well, for some similar reasons to why you liked the PSA in 5.7. Cheap and uncool, maybe, but the intended target doesn't care about how much bling your gun wears.
The Dagger's are pretty nice. You can set it up just about any conceivable way and still spend half or less than what the equivalent Glock costs.
@@CaptainRon1913 They are nice and since the end of the Glock patent copyright, PSA is doing what Glock technology failed to do: produce a low cost basic pistol for the masses. Consider that Glock popularized the polymer frame (cheap plastic from a mold), the stamped steel trigger control group (cheap steel stampings, not machined) and finally a hardened, machined, heat-treated barrel, slide and extractor but they still charge "expensive handgun prices" for it. PSA and others are stepping in to 'fill in the gaps'
The 22 vs 23 shot mag demo reminded me of your “22 rifles for home defense” video.
“First, I will engage the target with the 30-30, but I will miss. Then, I will engage the target with the 22, but I will hit it. Let’s see how it compares.” 😂
U da man. I was thinking of the PSA for my next pistol… you just sealed the deal. Great Str8 to the point videos as usual. Thanks stay blessed 👊🏾.
The S&W is not striker fired. It has an internal hammer.
An iternal hammer that hits a spring loaded striker.
@@ShortArmOfGodthank you, saved me having to tell him myself, I worked on the slide milling line when they were being made and have a bit of intimate knowledge of em lmao. The whole reason for having a hammer is to be Able to cock, and decock it , without having to run the slide. Which you can't do on the m&p, because it's internal for some godforsaken reason. Literally no good reason to do it that way but fuck it I guess.
@ShortArmOfGod isnt that what all hammer fired semi auto guns do?
@@ShortArmOfGod I guess the 1911 is a striker fired pistol then. SMH
Thanks for the video Mr. Harrell.
We are pulling for ya Paul.
Cheers.
"We really need our local dealers." Absolutely correct and spot-on brilliant. I'm glad to know this about PSA (a gun I am, now, less likely to consider). Also, it continues interesting that S&W hosts malfunctions. Great review, Ty.
Good work sir! I've noted quite a few inconsistencies with accuracy in the various 5.7 guns I've tested, and at least in my case, I tend to produce better groups with my PSA Rock samples, but there at times seems to be unexplainable fliers with various ammo types.
I purchased two 57 Rocks from PSA just over a year ago, mainly due to the price with the included accessories. Both with threaded barrels and both with the red dot optics, $600.00 each plus tax and xfer fee .. I couldn't pass up that price considering the options. The trigger on one of them does feel a little gritty but has gotten better and I imagine it will go away once I put several more rounds through it. Each one right out of the case with the optic installed shot extremely well. No adjustments to the optics were needed, they were spot on. I did have just 1 failure to feed on each one with the 1st mag with no hiccups after that. While not a good start I'll call it acceptable due to not being broken in yet. Using american eagle 40gr fmj. At the time I purchased the ammo it was .45 cents per round so I'm not planning on doing a 500 or 1000 round range day any time soon. So far I've only put 70 rounds through each. Overall I am very happy with their feel, performance, function and accuracy.
Thanks for the video.
I can't afford 5.7x28 ammunition anyway, so I'm watching mostly because I like your presentations and the information that your provide. I don't think I'll be in a position to buy one of these pistols anytime soon.
If I remember correctly, the whole point of the 5.7x28 was to have a caliber that would be very effective as a pistol caliber but also very effective in a carbine. One factor that would make me favor any particular pistol would be magazine compatibility with carbine. I don't know whether Smith and Wesson is going to make their new folding carbine in 5.7x28 or whether there will be magazine compatibility. If you don't particularly like the pistol anyway, then carbine compatibility doesn't matter. For me, one factor that would help sell the PSA version would be their making a carbine that would take the same magazines and could also take a thirty- or forty-round magazine.
If 5.7x28 ever becomes more affordable, I'd be interested in a pistol and carbine that fired this caliber. I don't see anything becoming affordable anytime soon, so I'll just enjoy seeing you shoot this one.
I enjoyed your video, keep them coming. Two points. PSA is a retailer and often times will heavily discount the products they sell. In addition they have responsive customer service, I bought an AR trigger upgrade that proved defective which was replaced quickly at no charge to me. The other point I wished to make is that both firearms are essentially setup for use with "red dots" and I think that is how they will be used. I have the PSA and though I am not a fan of the heavy trigger it has been very reliable and I have been able to reload for it with Hornady dies (I tried several other brands Redding and Lee, both failing miserably). I enjoy the "style" of your presentations, they are a refreshing change from the "gusher" fan boys. Best regards.
I've watched you for years. My old man is dead and gone but we watched a few of your videos together. First gun was the Springfield XD MOD 2.
Then the p365 XL. Then the Glock 26. Then Glock 43x MOS.
Now I'm rocking the canik tps 9 sc. Blessings Paul. You touch lives without even realizing.
I can see a need for 22 rounds, but 23? That's just ridiculous. And I'm totally with you on holding a firearm in my hand before I buy it. That said, I'm just an amateur, so go ahead and try this a home!
If you feel sorry for your "local dealer" not being able to make a quick buck, then have the transfer done through somebody who does transfers out of their home- they usually charge less anyway.
Good comparison. I was surprised the PSA was the right one for you. You definately showed the 23 rd. mag's superiority over the 22 rd. ..... LOL.
This is exactly what I wanted to see, thanks Paul!
Wonderful presentation as always, Paul. Thank you.
Outstanding as usual Paul!!
😂the absurd 22 vs 23 round mag demonstration was hilarious.
I completely agree, 5 vs 6 in a revolver (16.7% improvement) or as you said 7 vs 8 (12.5% improvement) in a 1911 might make a difference but I think you really get diminishing returns after about 15 rounds. A 9 round vs 10 round is a 10% improvement, much past there and your single digit improvements from single round differences start to get small enough to not be worth fussing much over. 16:17
22 vs 23 is only a 4.3% improvement.
The odds that you miss 22 but not 23 shots, or bad guy is not stopped by 22 but would be be 23 is kind of silly.
As far as the S&W stoppages I experienced top few round stoppages on several pistols with stiff mags. A good cleaning and a hundred rounds seems to clear that up.
Always keeping it real, is what I like most about Paul. The dry humor is just an added bonus.😂😂
Love your videos Paul!😊
I own several PSA products, including three ARs, an AK, and just recently, The Rock 5.7. All are excellent products, and at least for the rifles, the barrels are made by FN, so I'm told. The Rock's trigger is a bit stiff, but I'm finding that mine has softened a bit, probably a break-in issue. Anyway, thanks for the review and to your continued good health, Sir Paul!
Clearly the psa is superior due to that 23 round magazine!
-Soda Jug
The soda jug demonstration...glorious.
Paul Harrell: "It saved my bacon!"
I almost choked on my chicken nugget during the soda presentation. Paul is truly the most lethal person on the internet.
Personally, I'm hoping S&W make a folding carbine in 5.7x28mm to pair up with their pistol. I think that would be super cool, especially since they'd be competing with both the Ruger LC carbine and the Keltec sub2000. I mean, they already have a folding 9mm, so I know they could do it. Why not do it again? Anyway, fun video.
I heard that if you dryfire the PSA a couple of hundred times the trigger becomes awesome!
Another possible advantage of PSA is buying the pistol frame and slide separately. That avoids the federal tax on complete firearms, and in some states a local waiting period and other BS for complete (aka, assembled) handgun purchases.
Man... I just got my rock 5.7 and its my new favorite caliber/pistol that I own so far. Also just discovered Paul's channel and hes also risen to the spot as favorite. How rad
Another great video , Paul ! Thanks !
Thanks so much for reminding us of the necessity of supporting the small business operators. It's bad enough that the tyrannical government covid shutdown drove many small businesses of every kind out of business. If we buy lots of things from Amazon, Walmart, or any other mega sized company, we further harm all the small businesses out there, and we will lose more and more of them. Then when almost no private small businesses exist anymore, we will regret being forced to deal with the huge businesses that cant or won't do right by us.
Thank you Paul.
A joy to watch. Thank you Paul for always giving your honest opinion.
If Paul is the “average shooter” then I’m a stormtrooper
Yeah, I always laugh when he call himself average.
My LGS doesn't mind when customers buy online. He says less hassle and doesn't have to deal with after sale problems, which he may feel obligated to with your S&W that was malfunctioning. At least for a newb or someone less knowledgeable than you. Still makes money off the transfer fee, ammo, accessories, and the profit margin from buying wholesale isn't that much in the first place.
Great video. I really enjoy when Paul compares firearms. Who am I kidding, I 3njoy all of Paul's video's.
The man, the myth, the legendary Paul Harrell thanks for the info brother hope all is well
PSA doesn't sell to dealers because the dealers have a long standing history of price gouging at every opportunity they can such as periods of political unrest, tragedies, elections etc etc etc.
They did it to themselves.
Am I the only one that isn't the least bit interested in 5.7x28 as a caliber?
That being said thank you for the top notch review, Paul.
Yes
I love it as a concept but I hate it in execution. To be honest if it was priced only slightly higher than 9mm, I'd honestly go for it as my primary caliber. The light recoil really sells me on these.
No. For most of us it is not big enough to do what we want it to. If you are a property owner with need to protect live stock or deal with varmits it is a great caliber.
@@royharrell1760it’s all about proper shot placement.
It would be great for killing livestock too.
I loved the 22 vs. 23 round magazine comparison. Proves that old adage: You can't miss fast enough...
"The proof of the firearm is in the shooting" holy crap I had no idea I was looking forward to the Thanksgiving and Christmas episodes until you said, that, Paul. Really am.
Mag shot count demo had me in hysterics 😂😂