Examined: Why The Transcontinental Market Is So Important To US Legacy Carriers
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2023
- In the United States, the most crucial air routes for traditional full-service network carriers (or legacy airlines) are those that connect the country's largest cities on the East and West coasts. Los Angeles to New York will be the most commonly cited example, but Boston and San Francisco are other major cities seeing transcontinental services.
These routes feature upgraded products, flagship lounges, and greater frequencies and seat capacities. Furthermore, everything from maintenance operations to marketing strategies is optimized with transcontinental travel in mind.
This begs the question: why do airlines focus so heavily on coast-to-coast travel? More specifically, what makes the transcontinental aviation market the most valuable in the United States? Let’s take a deep dive into this topic for today’s video!
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Thanks for another enjoyable and informative program. The sad thing nowadays is that coach(Economy Class) transcontinental service has been generally reduced to a nightmare experience with small, uncomfortable seats and little to no cabin service. Most airlines charge for food or beverages. I actually remember flying from ORF to BWI to LAX to SFO on the same plane(DC-8 stretch) in Economy Class back in 1979. After a short hop to BWI, passengers were "treated" to a breakfast buffet in the gate area during the layover. On the long haul flight to LAX, United pulled out all of the stops on what they marketed as their "Coast to Coast" service. We were served a choice of three entrees and complimentary wine for lunch. The seat had a generous pitch and the flight attendants actually seemed to enjoy their jobs and were friendly and eager to make sure that we were comfortable. Of course, you can have a very comfortable flight now if you don't mind paying for a First/Business Class ticket. Yes, today's First/Business Class with its sleeper seats and enclosed suites is much better than it was in 1979. I wish that airlines would make Economy Class more enjoyable than what is available these days but it probably just doesn't make sense economically. Their premium services are quite profitable. I still have fond memories of the "golden age" of commercial aviation but unfortunately those days are gone. C'est la vie. 😢
I remember getting cool games and toys from the stewardess when I flew on a 727 in the late 70s. I don't remember how much my parents had to pay for the tickets. Today with tighter pitches and less extravagant service, a lot more people can afford to fly. Deregulation was a good thing overall.
On some airlines like aer lingus the food is included,
JFK/EWR - LAX/SFO many times on all 3 legacy carriers in economy, economy plus, premium economy, AA flagship business & first, Delta One, and United Business. United seems to be the winner recently as their 787-10 is the best equipment on those routes.
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I've flown transcontinental on United as well as on American, but never on Delta or JetBlue. I've also only done it in premium cabin flying from Houston to SFO in the United Polaris class. That's not considered transcontinental, but also a lucrative route for United since it's hub to hub for connections.
Notes about AA’s LAX-MIA route. It’s only Flagship transcon if using a lie flat equipped ✈️(the widebodies are the only lie flat equipped ✈️ doing that route despite a typo on AA’s website); this route usually uses regular A321s (including the NEO) and 737s. Also, on their respective premium transcon routes, United sells Premium Plus as is on premium transcon routes, while AA and Delta sell their respective premium economy products as extra legroom.
"..... airplanes as large as ....." is great info; but I think it should be paired with "....airplanes as small as.....". I kinda wanna know what tin cans carriers are willing to put passengers on.
"....would take 50 hours of nonstop driving to cover.....". I think it should also be pointed out that if your car is only taking the driver and perhaps 1 passenger, that the fuel and depreciation on the car would make in economically unviable, even if time weren't a factor. For example, just quickly looking up the IRS rate for car mileage; it states 65.5 cents per mile. That's $1600 before even accounting for fuel.
AA's flagship first is going away replaced by and upgraded business class.
I love the topic ! thank's a lot
flown from Charolette to LAX before on USAirways (before the Merge) a321 that was pretty cool
Can confirm United use the 787-10 on that EWR-LAX route!
They use them on occasion as they turns into an international flight
Beyond the transcontinental routes and premium offerings, medium-haul and collector/regional jets are older and desperately lack amenities, and the ORD, DEN, DFW, and ATL megahubs are often nightmares to navigate and weather issues will cause massive disruptions. But so long as the premium coastal customers get treated decently, that's all that matters.
I have flown SAN-IAD, SAN-EWR, SAN-JFK, and the route back to SAN for each flight. So sad to see San Diego was not one of the west coast routes that are busy 😢. However I mainly go to see family, not for work.
It seems than that these profitable routes are so, simply because they are some of the longest routes.
I’m assuming that operating costs per mile decrease with the length of the flight.
When you couple that with 83% of the population living on the east and west coasts you can see where the demand comes from.
A similar story with London and New York, two major populations and major financial centres.
The most popular flight destination from London Heathrow is JFK, with 155 flights per week, by all carriers.
This compares to JFK to LAX which has 195 flights per week.
In Australia there’s a similar situation where SYD/MEL/BNE to PER operate up to 7 Qantas a330 flights a day with an additional pair of 787 flights from MEL (and sometimes SYD) tho these are classed as international as the 787s continue onto London or Rome under the same flight no. I honestly thought that there would be a lot more wide body aircraft between NYC and LA seen as these are both mega cities, compared to Australia.
boarding a plane is like boarding a bus
When are your fleet deep dive videos coming back?
As LAX not higher than top 5, look at the other options of airports that hit the metro area, same with the NYC area. How many other airport options do have to fly from Denver to Dallas?
Me 2 this channel is a banger ❤
any planned video on the future of air india ?, your last was 5 months ago and a lot has changed, also make a video on the future of the indian aviation sector, over many aspects, including my personal one : future airports
Flown many transcontinental flights with Alaska Airlines
This is what airlines can do when there is no competition from genuine high speed rail, by that I mean, trains that can do at 8:02 least 150 miles an hour.
Well even if High Speed rail linked the East Coast cites with the West Coast, flying would still be quicker.
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That depends. High speed rail usually goes from city centre to city centre so the complete journey from home could be quicker, with not having to travel out to an airport and wait for all the security checks. So on something like a three hour flight or less, it can be competitive door to door
all three airlines need to treat transcon flights like international flights and allow lounge access for economy class customers with elite level status with respective airline
Flew from SEA to PHL last February on AA. Even though I was in business class, it was nothing like flying to JFK would have been
I think that it’s a shame that American doesn’t offer premium service on its PHL-LAX/SFO/PHX routes as well as from CLT.
If you’re lucky, AA sometimes uses the 777 on the PHL-LAX route, but it’s still branded as a regular domestic flight
Closest transcontinental flight was a red eye from Phoenix to Atlanta with Delta.
The red eye from SEA to DTW is nice too with lie flat seats!
I've flown transcon on Continental, TWA, United.
Now only on Delta!
(I hate Newark!)
32 hours NOT 50 hours cross country... no body drives 50 mph cross country haha the average is more like 75 mph.
Surely that can’t be right, nobody averages 75 miles an hour in a car across a long distance. You would need to be hitting 100 miles an hour regularly to end up with an average that high.
Bearing in mind the speed limits and comfort stops and fuelling stops
In my experience most satnav’s are based on the average speed of 60 mph /100kph for calculating journey times.
Using 2020 numbers really removes all relevance of the video. This was an interesting topic, but the data used is invalid.
This is an incredibly pedantic view to take on this. 2020 is probably the last full year where data isn’t completely skewed by COVID. 2023 isn’t over yet so the full year data is unavailable, but I would daresay that the revenue numbers for this year would be close to or possibly exceed the 2020 numbers; the recovery in air travel being as strong as it is.
@@FanRailer 2020 is the year of which data is heavily skewed by Covid as the US closed international flights since March 2020, so international gateways like JFK or LAX got hit the most. 2019 is the full year without any effect from the pandemic.
EWR-SNA. United. 2-3 times a year. Always the cheapest economy aisle seat I can snag. Lie flat seats LOL. Unless it is 8+ hours, im good.