Though Ivar's determination is absolute Ragnar. So are his insecurities. Whilst Sigurd was his arrogance, which led to his death. Then you have Hvitserk's personality which represents ragnar's rebellious nature. And then you see Ubbe as Ragnar's dreamer and logical thinker. And last but not least, you have Bjorn. The absolute warrior that is both Ragnar, and Rollo, whoever the real parent might be. In the end he was raised by Ragnar, and might've been created by rollow. Which allowed him to adopt features from both men.
I think he knew what Ubbe was going to do before he did it and was more surprised that they had made it back alive. The calm behaviour was more Ivar not worried about what was going on then but how they will defend another attack.
The camera angle they use with Ivar makes him look so ruthless; almost like he is looking down at his people and that he is the ultimate boss. Brilliant!
The thing that makes Ivar so great is that he is his own justification. Everyone is always appealing to Ragnar or the order of their birth. Ivar acts are purely his own uninfluenced by anything. He truly carries the spirit of Ragnar. Reliance upon one's own self and nothing else
They keep saying Ragnar this and Ragnar that but they abandoned him and crossed him off as a lost man. It's almost as if none of the sons have the balls to make their own name apart from Ivar.
@@shahidulkhan9566 and what’s worse is that they let those lies of legacy and rules of succession stunt their potential Bjorn in my opinion is selfish for abandoning his people just because he wanted to explore, Ubbe was naive to trust the Saxons and let his ego stop him from working further with Ivar and hvitzerk, Hvitzerk was fine but was objectively one of the more loyal ones before becoming a drunk, Sigurd seemed more concerned with undermining Ivar rather than doing anything productive unless Bjorn or ubbe told him to, and Ivar while loyal couldn’t let go of grudges to make his army stronger
@@kevinescobar370 Bem, Ubbe cumpriu o sonho que ele e Ragnar tinham depois de negociar e se aliar ao Alfred. Vejo a relação de Ubbe e Alfred como uma continuação da amizade de Althestan e Ragnar.
@@shahidulkhan9566 Ubbe e Ivar são dois lados do Ragnar. Ubbe é o Ragnar fazendeiro das três primeiras temporadas que queria paz com os cristãos pra dar terras férteis à seu povo. Ivar é o Ragnar da quarta temporada, com os sonhos em frangalhos e o único desejo de se vingar dos cristãos da Inglaterra por ter sido traído depois de ter seu povo e assentamento destruído. Mas eu gosto mais de Ubbe, ele carrega as melhores características de Ragnar, Ubbe também honra o pai e sonho que ele tinha.
Ivar got the strategic mind of his father but the black heart of his mother.He is more like Aslug, he loves the gods and he hates the christians so much.He want's to conquer the christian lands and kill everyone that stands in his way.Ubbe is great fighter and good person just like ragnar.He wants peace with the christians,and no more fighting.He has Ragnars fighting spirit and heart but he is not so smart.At this point Ivar is right, it doesn't matter if he is younger he got everything it takes to be a great leader.Personally i like Ubbe more.I can't w8 to see the next episode!
medusa She had a black heart in my opinion.She left ziggy (bjorns daughter) to die.She almost lost her two sons because she was too busy.:p Yes i agree vikings hated the christians and any other different religion, it's normal but i just compare Ragnar with Aslaug.Ragnar didn't hated the christians,Aslaug did.Have a nice day!
ghostkiller619 Ivar doesn't think long term like his father, which is why Kategat prospered. He will just wants to be Viking, he still has a mind of child, and because of his actions it will ruin everything
Ivar is not stupid. He doesn't forget his and his father's history. You forget quickly how Ragnar died. Do you remember, Ragnar tried diplomacy with Englishmen and they treasoned him, killed his people as ingloriously (i'm talking about innocent farmers that Ragnar bringed to England) and finally killed Ragnar Lothbrok. This is actually Ragnar's plan and working like a charm. So, Ragnar was already know Ivar would do these things. And also, Ragnar was already knows that Ivar have the black of his mother. Thats why Ragnar brought "only" Ivar with himself to England. Ivar learned in a very painful way that after his father had died, he should not have acted emotionally if there is a policy in question. By the way; Ivar was the saddest person after his father was killed. Because Englishmen killed his father in front of his eyes and Ragnar wanted it himself. This was the biggest part of Ragnar's plan.
It was not Ivar who separated the brothers. Ubbe left because he wanted to. Ivar just wanted to lead the army, he had already proven his ability. He warned Ubbe that the Saxons were not to be trusted, Ubbe knew what happened to Ragnar by trusting them too much. Despite this slip, Ivar still respected his older brother, but after Ubbe joined Lagherta, that respect ended.
@@kable_one6690 why would you go in the night to meet the English they battered Ubbe and his brother. Realistically they shouldn't have even been let go. They would've been kept prisoner as leverage.
Ivar tends to humiliate his brothers, which would obviously alienate them, so I'd definitely say he was the one who separated them. Ubbe was following Ragnar's dream more than Ivar. Specifically going to the English that ep was a bad call by Ubbe, but Ivar was just looking for a chance to take over and he didn't have to do this to Ubbe in front of so many people. Ivar tends to treat his brothers pretty bad even when they are on the same side. Hvisters STAYED with Ivar and he was still getting humiliated by Ivar It's true they would have drifted apart for different goals at some point, but Ivar really SPLIT them as a family and their relationship
@@ststes ivar had to do it in front of so many people it drove them to make a decision follow ubbe or follow ivar if he hadnt questioned ubbes authority the worst case would have been people leaving because ubbe showed weakness
And this is how the war between the Ragnar's sons started. They are supposed to be equal leaders of the Great Army. Now Ubbe and Hvitserk are demoted to followers. Ubbe just realize Ivar had become a monster. He is not the same brother he loved. This Ivar will be ready to kill him like Sigurd if he didnt agree to Ivar's whims.
Ragnar did the same when he said everyone would be equals in their first raid to England, but he was clearly the leader. He, like Ivar, understood that leadership is not just a title you can give to anyone, you need someone who has the right mindset, skill, and determination to make the hard calls. Ubbe is very skilled, but as of this point, he's just too nice to be the leader. Nothing wrong with that, but leaders need to be ruthless at times like this. Hvitserk is in no way a leader, he's always a follower, and he proved that about three or four times in these three episodes alone. Ivar, however hardcore he may be, has the right mindset, skill and makes the hard calls. He knew from the beginning the Saxons would attack, so instead of fixing the weak point and having to guess where they'd come from, he just let it there and prepared the defenses and traps. No one saw to that but him. Then he went to battle and even though he's disabled, and he stopped an entire army dead on their tracks. Even his own soldiers were impressed and a little scared. Then three victories later (one against Aethelwulf in season 4, one against the Yorkers and one defending York), he warned his brothers openly about not seeking peace with Aethelwulf because he knew that would show weakness and the Saxons wouldn't accept that. And he was right again, and it was out for everyone to see. Ubbe and Ivar are the two halves of Ragnar, one is the peaceful badass who is looking to stop fighting somehow and ensure quality life for the people, and the other is the all out darkness and strategic genius of him who believes that in order to not be attacked you have to terrorize your enemies to submission. Ubbe just wanting to be the leader just because he's the older brother comes off more as petty if anything.
Juarez Nofuente Put yourself in Ragnar's shoes, you have created a fucking empire, wouldn't you want your sons to take care of it? Wouldn't you want your sons to make that empire grow even bigger? Because that's what Ubbe wants, meanwhile Ivar is fucking everything up with his overwhelming ambitions and his family fews, he's basically breaking the Vikings in half. What I'm trying to say is, fuck him XD.
oh baby a tripol ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) are you dumb? Did you forget entirely that Ragnar didn’t give 2 shits about being a king? Or how he ran away from his “empire” because he didn’t want it? Lmao
stewbird234450 Are you a pathetic waste of a human being who insults people for no reason whatsoever? No I did not forget that Ragnar didn't want to be a king... I don't even know why the fuck did you even ask me that... By the way, nice job on making shit up, because Ragnar didn't ran away because he didn't want his empire. Just make a quick-search to see why he really left, read the words of the show's creator himself. Or maybe he's just as dumb as me right?? And I didn't mean his "Empire" in a literal way, by empire I meant, he's the guy that increased his people's power and riches, and he managed to unite many of the vikings for a cause, and take possession of many lands. And he even gave his life to give his sons a real reason to conquer England, so they can avange him and in the process finally take England and thus make his "empire" even bigger. And he never stoped caring about his people, in fact he told Ivar on their last conversation "I believe you are the most important for our people's future" or something like that. So no, he didn't leave because he didn't want it. Before you insult someone make sure you have something that makes sense to say or you'll just look like a fucking idiot.
oh baby a tripol ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) lol says the moron who actually thinks ivar is “fucking things up”. Ragnar believed heavily in the future of ivar, and considering that ivar is literally doing what his father told him to do, Ragnar would understand the split in the family, especially since there was always a gap between him and rollo for far dumber reasons. His brothers don’t think him “unworthy” of leading, they’ve just always looked down on him his whole life, whether it’s because of his condition, general lack of respect, or his age, so it’s natural for a split to occur now that he’s gaining his legs (ha) on who he is, and people are starting to accept his greatness.
@@joaquinespinola2362Ele tá certo. Ubbe é o Ragnar fazendeiro das três primeiras temporadas que queria paz com os cristãos pra dar terras férteis à seu povo. Ubbe também não era ambicioso e não queria ser Rei, assim como Ragnar. Ubbe tinha o desejo de ser um fazendeiro com terras férteis e um explorador, o que Ragnar sempre quis ser.
It's doesn't matter who is right, only who wins. That's why people follow an Ivar or a Tamerlan cause it's their best choice for survival and enrichement. History repeats itself continuously
This scene is why Hvitserk chose to stay with Ivar. Despite getting tricked by the Saxons and humiliated by Ivar, Ubbe is still talking as if he is the one in charge, even speaking for Hvitserk without consulting with him. Ivar may have been power hungry and psychotic, but he was always incredibly intelligent with his battle strategies and was ruthless in his actions, while Ubbe was naive and far too trusting to ever lead the army.
Also, Ubbe was even more naive in assuming that Ragnar would have hated Ivar for splitting the family up. Did he forget that Ragnar pushed Lagertha and Bjorn away by getting Aslaug pregnant with Ubbe? Or how about Ragnar and Rollo leading opposing armies against each other? It really shows how Ivar grew to know Ragnar better than anyone on that trip to England, while the other brothers (besides Bjorn) only knew him from what they’d heard about him from others.
@@markrobinson9394 Its actually really sad because the sons that Ragnar "wanted" hated him in the end and didn't really know him while the son he tried to leave in the forest to die actually got to know the "real" Ragnar and his final dreams and ambitions
@@markrobinson9394 ragnar never pushed lagertha away even less bjorn they left him and rollo betrayed him multiple times and he still saved his life the first time. His family was everything
@@markrobinson9394 Ragnar regretting losing Bjorn and lagertha, so why would he praise someone for doing that? Rollo betraying him caused him serious pain as well, it's probably the last thing that broke Ragnar and caused him to disappear for a few years Fact is Ragnar was a kind king to his people and ultimately wanted land for them to grow in without fighting, Ivar was neither of those things
Ubbe is letting his pride get in the way. He may be the older brother but Ivar shown to have better judgment then all his brothers. He came up with the strategies which led them to many victories. Ubbe just made a bad decision as the older brother he should accept his mistakes and listen to Ivar.
Ubbe was like his father he never wanted Kingship he wanted land to Ubbe and Ragnar the earth's soil is treasure. So it was easy for Ubbe to walk away from it all.
I like Ubbe's intentions but he's pretty dumb. Ragnar would've also wanted peace but he wouldn't take the initiative since they are the ones who have a lead over the christians. Ragnar would've waited for the christians to approach him.
I Think ubbe will learn on this and be more sensible next time after All he was grown up by the tales of great honour warriors so it was normal he tried to be fair and praceful and he made some stupid moved but he will improve
Diutisc Frituom He literally killed his own brother that spoke out against him. Something tells me Ivar is not keeping the family together nor does he care about his family.
He basically said "As your older brother I will never ever let you be leader of the army, and I don't care that you've proven to be the better strtegist and leader in battle multiple times."
@@maotsetiandi974 Yeah he did Ubbe established a settlement in wessex for his people and found vinland while Ivar got his ass handed to him terribly again and again in kattegat and in wessex and he's 6ft deep so.... 🤷♂️
There is no leader in the world who doesn't make mistakes even the very best ones do. Ubbe wanted a long-term mutual beneficial relationship, he wanted his people to be farmers not raiders, He wanted to negotiate peace while they had an upper hand because they were in a foreign land with limited resources with enemies on every side, eventually they had bigger army but no reinforcements meanwhile saxons were fighting a defensive war with unlimited numbers, as we saw eventually the saxons kept getting stronger and Vikings lost. I would have done the same, made a deal with saxons on my term while I had a chance. Ubbe was a better leader here and although his decision was wrong as a whole lot, it was a well thought decision.
Im reality ivar was naive because in the end the viking life disappeared and still joined Christianity so ubbe would have been a better leader ivar lil man complex pushed him to lose it all.
No Ragnar wanted his people strong not to travel and explore. He did the early raids hoping to find better lands. He wanted Vikings to be more United so they can get better lands.
Ragnar did the same thing when he first got to Northumbria and Wessex, he went and met with King Ecbert and Aela to talk about peace. Athelwulf fucked up, why would you attack someone when they've come to discuss peace? Honestly didn't expect that from him.
It was nor Aethelwulf decision to fuck Ubbe over. He took Alfreds advice to achive peace. It was Heathmund that did not want to negotiate for peace, he wants all vikings (heathens) gone or dead.
“our father would hate you for splintering this family” “ I don’t think so “ remember, what were ragnars last words to ivar? be ruthless. ragnar wanted ivar to be this way. besides, the whole thing with ragnars legacy of farming was long shot down when echbert betrayed him; he wanted revenge hence ivar lol.
I think Ragnar knew he made mistakes especially with the settlement in Wessex and how ecbert killed them all. Ragnar knew he should've sought revenge and yet he didn't, then ecbert hands him off to northumbria to be killed.
Ragnar never meant to be ruthless to his own people, just their enemies. Ragnar was never intentionally as cruel to his own family or people as Ivar was Ragnar didn't know Ivar well enough to know what kind of monster was in him. I SERIOUSLY doubt he'd be happy with Ivar later burning his own people for not proclaiming him a god
@@ststes Definitely right I think Ivar had taken Ragnars words little close to heart. Although, I do think Ragnar saying, “you must make em pay for it” can be taken out of context to a troubled young kid. Not going to sit here and say ivar burning tons of ppl was warranted hell no. I’m just saying I fr think Ivar took that last conversation w ragnar as “fuck everybody”
@@syd1764 Ubbe e Ivar são dois lados do Ragnar. Ubbe é o Ragnar fazendeiro das três primeiras temporadas que queria paz com os cristãos pra dar terras férteis à seu povo. Ivar é o Ragnar da quarta temporada, com os sonhos em frangalhos e o único desejo de se vingar dos cristãos da Inglaterra por ter sido traído depois de ter seu povo e assentamento destruído. Mas eu gosto mais de Ubbe, ele carrega as melhores características de Ragnar, Ubbe também honra o pai e sonho que ele tinha.
@@ststes Sim. Eu não acho que Ragnar teria ficado satisfeito com o reinado do Ivar na temporada 5. Mas equanto Ivar atacava a Inglaterra, ele estava honrado parte do desejo final do Ragnar: Vingança.
Great Ivar , peace is only achievable when the enemy isn't strategically stronger than u , otherwise ull be at his mercy forever . Ubbe is so naive at the moment .
squashedeyeball he did it because he wanted to be like his father. Ragnar did this very thing many times, where he entered in to hostile territory with hardly any backup and uswd cunning and intimidation to get out
squashedeyeball on the long term ubbe is the wisest among the brothers I think , the only one to care bout his fathers dream , but in the short term they need Ivar the only master military tactician , even Bjorn being a great explorer never got that cunning . Of course in the long term ivar only cares for war and glory .
Gaetano De Angelis the Brothers should have worked together AS ONE, ALWAYS, and passed leadership when the environment and situation changed. Ivar was the man the Nords needed in the War against the Saxon. But Ubbe would have been perfect for economic, and culture growth after the war in England. In terms of character, none of the brothers were as great as Ragnar. It’s like Death of Alexander the Great. None of his Generals were as strong, and capable as he was; in order to inherit and keep the Empire unified.
Mas um péssimo Rei pra seu povo. Veja o reinado dele na temporada 5. Apesar de ser mais ingênuo e não ter a mente estratégica de Ragnar, Ubbe era o que mais se importava com o povo dele.
Of course Hvitserk will go with whomever can supply him with the biggest bone. He’s just a follower. Mans best friend till something better comes along.
I stand with Ivar on this one. Ubbe made them look weak, and his decision to go to the saxons with little to no combative support behind Ivar's back has sabotaged the sons of ragnar's unity. Ubbe is much like his father, probably more than any of the other sons. He has a soft spot, he has a good heart, but he allowed his emotions to get the better of him. And that CANT be tolerated when it comes to warfare!
Yo everyone makes mistakes even Ragnar did when he tried to attack Paris second time or when he made an agreement with saxons. Ubbe was younger than him and it was his first commanding of the army but he will learn from that situations and improve himslef whereas Ivar is a spoiled arogant little brat who Thinks that he is invincible until he loses one battle and everyone will Turn their backs to him
Ubbe was the spoilt brat who betrayed his brothers because he refused to acknowledge Ivar's superior leadership skills. Ubbe showed his arrogance in refusing to accept Ivar as the rightful leader because Ubbe fucked up and then blamed Ivar. #TeamUbbe has zero credibility.
You all talk about oh Ivar killed his son blah blah blah Ragnar was going to leave Ivar to the wolves he was bullied and brought down by Sigurd he makes his own path Bjorn and ubbe are hypocrites lagertha is a bitch Ivar doesn’t have a mother or father yet he still can move unlike his brothers who only care about there fathers legacy
@@declanmackinaw532 they use their father's name because they get more credibility. Ivar is different he wants to be more famous than Ragnar ever was. He makes his mission about his needs so people remember him.
Ivar is not stupid. He doesn't forget his and his father's history. You forget quickly how Ragnar died. Do you remember, Ragnar tried diplomacy with Englishmen and they treasoned him, killed his people as ingloriously (i'm talking about innocent farmers that Ragnar bringed to England) and finally killed Ragnar Lothbrok. This is actually Ragnar's plan and working like a charm. So, Ragnar was already know Ivar would do these things. Thats why Ragnar brought Ivar with himself to England. (Sorry for my bad grammar btw)
Ivar learned in a very painful way that after his father had died, he should not have acted emotionally if there is a policy in question. By the way; Ivar was the saddest person after his father was killed. Because Englishmen killed his father in front of his eyes and Ragnar wanted it himself. This was the biggest part of Ragnar's plan.
Ubbe was right about peace I agree with that just the timing of it, the saxons didn’t want peace because they (mostly Ivar) where leading them past the point of asking for peace and all out war
Ivar has gotten more of Rhagnars darker attributes the cunning ruthless side that always lusted for more power and to push limits beyond expectations.Were Ubbe has Rhagnars more human side the part of him that just want to build a better life for his family and people
Ubbe e Ivar são dois lados do Ragnar. Ubbe é o Ragnar fazendeiro das três primeiras temporadas que queria paz com os cristãos pra dar terras férteis à seu povo. Ivar é o Ragnar da quarta temporada, com os sonhos em frangalhos e o único desejo de se vingar dos cristãos da Inglaterra por ter sido traído depois de ter seu povo e assentamento destruído. Mas eu gosto mais de Ubbe, ele carrega as melhores características de Ragnar, Ubbe também honra o pai e sonho que ele tinha.
not a huge fan of how they portray ubbe as incompetent or how the brothers cant work together, i could have them mixed up but previous seasons show him as clever as Ragnar when he was a child (winning at their version of chess, finding floki, ect) and now hes making very basic and dangerous mistakes. My understanding is Ubbe and Ivar worked together with Hvitserk the whiteshirt until ivar went to rule his territory in Ireland. Ubbe is believed to have died fighting wessex while hvitserk would die raiding in western Russia
This scene was where I started to lose interest in the show. Ivar and Ubbe were supposed to be the team which brought the English kingdoms to their knees. Making them enemies wasn't nearly as interesting to me.
What Ubbe did was beyond stupid. He didn't only almost get them killed, he also made them seem weak. (not to forget he got played for that land they "got") He has good intentions, but he is a terrible leader and a coward. Ivar is true leader and a conqueror.
Serenity Escape I agree Ubbe made a bad call, but he's no coward. The problem is he doesn't have Ivar's ruthlessness or killer instinct. It seems a little one-dimensional to call Ubbe a nice guy, but that's accurate enough. Ragnar made mistakes, but he was much more shrewd. Ubbe needs some more seasoning. Bjorn was the same way. I just hope Ubbe survives long enough to become worthy of Ragnar's name.
Ubbe is at fault here. He ignored Ivar, went behind his back to conspire with the enemy, which then backfired at him, and he refused to acknowledge his mistake, throws a temper tantrum by leaving and blames Ivar for breaking the family. Ragnar would've called Ubbe a coward.
Drakiv yes, Rollo has certainly achieved a lot, probably more than he ever expected. I don't know much about him histotically, but I can't help but think that karmically there's going to be some payback in the future for his betrayal of Ragnar and his fellow Vikings. The real Rollo was a warlord in his own right who fought for the Franks in exchange for land. Eventually he converted to Christianity, too. In the show Rollo did what he did all for his own gain. I can appreciate that he was always impatient to get out of Ragnar's shadow, but his treachery was a lousy way to go about it. Even though I'm sure nothing like this will happen in the series, it wouldn't surprise me if the Franks or his precious bitch of a wife Gisla stab him in the back sometime in the future. He might grovel alongside the Franks in their churchs, but one thing that was very apparent when he accompanied Bjorn on his raid in Spain is that at heart Rollo's still a Viking and consequently a pagan, and these Christians, whether Frank or Saxon, don't tolerate pagans. Those Viking settlers Aethelwulf and his ilk massacred can testify to that.
James Burke Rollo was the grand grand grand father of guillaume le conquerant who win in hastings in 1066 But Franks play well with rollo but rollo is like ivar in some case they are just megalomaniac and think for themselves and not for the viking like ragnard and ubbe
Ironic. The Vikings may not conquer the Saxons but the Normans will under William the Conquer a descendant of Rollo's. I guess in a roundabout way the Viking's got the last laugh.
James Burke yes ironic indeed but the normans was not viking anymore about culture language religion etc But in the last christian beat the vikings when harald king of norway decide to be a christian and the raid on europe stop and vikibg culture going to die slowly
Understood. I guess I was putting the cart before the horse, William the Conqueror being a descendant of Rollo's, etc. Thanks for keeping things in the correct historical context.
Unlike Ragnar! Ivar was opposite he wanted power so bad. Ragnar never wanted power, after he killed Haraldson. He was then congratulated by the people around him as earl ragnar and then after that the betrayal of king horik made him king because the people made him but not ragnar.
Ragnars sons do tower above Ragnars habits and qualities, Ubbe is far more responsible altho responsibility was forced upon Ragnar. Bjorn has Ragnars sense off adventure but towers above Ragnars exploration both in travel and woman. But Ivar.. well Ivar unlike his father has almost no limitations in his wits, cunning and strategy hes not hold back to unleash all off his ruthless wrath and ambition when the time is right something Ragnar had to struggle with quite alot "Im constantly torn between killing myself.. or everyone arround me" Unlike Ragnar in alot off ways its rather expected from Ivar, something he learned from his father.
Ivar doesn't do anything. He's a fucking cripple for goodness sake. He's sadistic and evil. Lets not forget ragnar himself would have advocated diplomacy with the Saxons.
All battle strategies came from Ivar, so I wouldn't say he doesn't do anything...he may not be able to fight as others but his intelect got them this far
Serenity Escape everything ivar has done he learnt from Ragnar. That stupid argument applies to all brothers. And, if it was so simple, why didn't Ivar the sociopath think of it? Because he's irrational and impulsive.
After bjorn left as the oldest brother ubbe should have taken charge and just put ivar in his place. I know it's because he's caring and loves his brothers but he should have taken charge
I'm 😂laughing because people expected Ivar to be like Ragnar bit*h please he is Ivar the boneless He's not a follower, nice guy, He is a mean nasty ruthless leader, Ivar may have some Ragnar ways when it comes to mind skills set on strategies in war militares but he has a cold heart like his Mother Aslaug more and Floki was the one help raised Ivar not Ragnar Lothbrok, Ivar only cares about winning the war for his glory success for him and his armies not anyone else. Besides from Floki, all the people that loves Ivar is dead excrept Sigurd. And neither one of Ivar Brothers doesn't see him as their equal like rest and Ivar hates that, He even told his brothers this, He told them that the God's chose him as their thier leader
Ubbe e Ivar são dois lados do Ragnar. Ubbe é o Ragnar fazendeiro das três primeiras temporadas que queria paz com os cristãos pra dar terras férteis à seu povo. Ivar é o Ragnar da quarta temporada, com os sonhos em frangalhos e o único desejo de se vingar dos cristãos da Inglaterra por ter sido traído depois de ter seu povo e assentamento destruído. Mas eu gosto mais de Ubbe, ele carrega as melhores características de Ragnar, Ubbe também honra o pai e sonho que ele tinha.
Ubbe também se asemelha mais a Ragnar por não querer poder, apenas ser um explorador e fazendeiro com terras férteis. O Ivar diferente de Ragnar era ambicioso e queria ser Rei, tendo o desejo de ser maior do que o próprio Ragnar. Também acredito que o Ragnar não teria ficado satisfeito com o reinado do Ivar na temporada 5.
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00:50-00:56 Ubbe's mannerisms are pure Ragnar.
Yep, exactly my thoughts when I saw him turn. He definitely did it on purpose.
He definitely doesn't have Ragnar's intelligence and strategic planning however
Though Ivar's determination is absolute Ragnar. So are his insecurities. Whilst Sigurd was his arrogance, which led to his death.
Then you have Hvitserk's personality which represents ragnar's rebellious nature.
And then you see Ubbe as Ragnar's dreamer and logical thinker.
And last but not least, you have Bjorn. The absolute warrior that is both Ragnar, and Rollo, whoever the real parent might be. In the end he was raised by Ragnar, and might've been created by rollow. Which allowed him to adopt features from both men.
even his voice kinda resembles hehe
@ny_kia31 - Fact.
Alex Høgh Andersen is such an amazing actor, owned this episode.
medusa Agree, he is amazing
Damn...Ivar is just so calm when he's arguing...makes him seem so much cooler.
I think he knew what Ubbe was going to do before he did it and was more surprised that they had made it back alive. The calm behaviour was more Ivar not worried about what was going on then but how they will defend another attack.
Ubbe yelling “IVAR!” will forever be imprinted in my mind. It sounds so epic
0:28
I love that moment. Guy stands up in front of Ubbe and then regrets it.
Even with his face beaten in ubbe is still terrifying
@@lukeskywalker2913 maybe if you are a woman
@@Aria432 mate shut the fuck up if you came face to face with a Viking war lord you'd shit yourself
"who the fuck do you think i am?" ~Ubbe
1:06 Ubbe is just amazing!
The camera angle they use with Ivar makes him look so ruthless; almost like he is looking down at his people and that he is the ultimate boss. Brilliant!
The thing that makes Ivar so great is that he is his own justification. Everyone is always appealing to Ragnar or the order of their birth. Ivar acts are purely his own uninfluenced by anything. He truly carries the spirit of Ragnar. Reliance upon one's own self and nothing else
They keep saying Ragnar this and Ragnar that but they abandoned him and crossed him off as a lost man. It's almost as if none of the sons have the balls to make their own name apart from Ivar.
Exactly
@@shahidulkhan9566 and what’s worse is that they let those lies of legacy and rules of succession stunt their potential Bjorn in my opinion is selfish for abandoning his people just because he wanted to explore, Ubbe was naive to trust the Saxons and let his ego stop him from working further with Ivar and hvitzerk, Hvitzerk was fine but was objectively one of the more loyal ones before becoming a drunk, Sigurd seemed more concerned with undermining Ivar rather than doing anything productive unless Bjorn or ubbe told him to, and Ivar while loyal couldn’t let go of grudges to make his army stronger
@@kevinescobar370 Bem, Ubbe cumpriu o sonho que ele e Ragnar tinham depois de negociar e se aliar ao Alfred. Vejo a relação de Ubbe e Alfred como uma continuação da amizade de Althestan e Ragnar.
@@shahidulkhan9566 Ubbe e Ivar são dois lados do Ragnar. Ubbe é o Ragnar fazendeiro das três primeiras temporadas que queria paz com os cristãos pra dar terras férteis à seu povo. Ivar é o Ragnar da quarta temporada, com os sonhos em frangalhos e o único desejo de se vingar dos cristãos da Inglaterra por ter sido traído depois de ter seu povo e assentamento destruído. Mas eu gosto mais de Ubbe, ele carrega as melhores características de Ragnar, Ubbe também honra o pai e sonho que ele tinha.
Just finished watching this episode,I honestly feel sorry for ubbe he just doesn't know where he stands,seems very lost
Awooga wherr u watched man plz tell me
His heart is in the right place, and he's very emotionally conflicted. But that doesn't justify his actions.
He's just stupid
The problem is that here Ubbe truly thinks that what happened wasn’t his fault and still tries to use his age over Ivar as a last defense
I feel for ubbe.
Him and Bjorn are basically Ragnar without the intelligence, I'm more interested in how Hvitserk's story plays out.
Team Ubbe.
@@mattnar3865 That's because all of Ragnar's intelligence is manifested in Ivar.
@@mattnar3865 ubbe is smarter than bjorn but he was just young here
I feel ivar. Poor me
1:17 lol that face you make when someone steps on the back of your shoe in the hallway
Ivar got the strategic mind of his father but the black heart of his mother.He is more like Aslug, he loves the gods and he hates the christians so much.He want's to conquer the christian lands and kill everyone that stands in his way.Ubbe is great fighter and good person just like ragnar.He wants peace with the christians,and no more fighting.He has Ragnars fighting spirit and heart but he is not so smart.At this point Ivar is right, it doesn't matter if he is younger he got everything it takes to be a great leader.Personally i like Ubbe more.I can't w8 to see the next episode!
ghostkiller619 I agree sir
Aslaug didn't have a black heart, hating christians is normal, real vikings hate christians.
medusa She had a black heart in my opinion.She left ziggy (bjorns daughter) to die.She almost lost her two sons because she was too busy.:p Yes i agree vikings hated the christians and any other different religion, it's normal but i just compare Ragnar with Aslaug.Ragnar didn't hated the christians,Aslaug did.Have a nice day!
ghostkiller619 Ivar doesn't think long term like his father, which is why Kategat prospered. He will just wants to be Viking, he still has a mind of child, and because of his actions it will ruin everything
Ivar is not stupid. He doesn't forget his and his father's history. You forget quickly how Ragnar died. Do you remember, Ragnar tried diplomacy with Englishmen and they treasoned him, killed his people as ingloriously (i'm talking about innocent farmers that Ragnar bringed to England) and finally killed Ragnar Lothbrok. This is actually Ragnar's plan and working like a charm. So, Ragnar was already know Ivar would do these things. And also, Ragnar was already knows that Ivar have the black of his mother. Thats why Ragnar brought "only" Ivar with himself to England.
Ivar learned in a very painful way that after his father had died, he should not have acted emotionally if there is a policy in question. By the way; Ivar was the saddest person after his father was killed. Because Englishmen killed his father in front of his eyes and Ragnar wanted it himself. This was the biggest part of Ragnar's plan.
Like Ragnar once said, I would warn Ivar to "worry less about the gods and more about *the fury of a patient man”*
It was not Ivar who separated the brothers. Ubbe left because he wanted to. Ivar just wanted to lead the army, he had already proven his ability. He warned Ubbe that the Saxons were not to be trusted, Ubbe knew what happened to Ragnar by trusting them too much. Despite this slip, Ivar still respected his older brother, but after Ubbe joined Lagherta, that respect ended.
According to how the series end, Ubbe was right
@@kable_one6690 why would you go in the night to meet the English they battered Ubbe and his brother. Realistically they shouldn't have even been let go. They would've been kept prisoner as leverage.
@@kable_one6690 lmao they were almost killed
Ivar tends to humiliate his brothers, which would obviously alienate them, so I'd definitely say he was the one who separated them. Ubbe was following Ragnar's dream more than Ivar.
Specifically going to the English that ep was a bad call by Ubbe, but Ivar was just looking for a chance to take over and he didn't have to do this to Ubbe in front of so many people.
Ivar tends to treat his brothers pretty bad even when they are on the same side. Hvisters STAYED with Ivar and he was still getting humiliated by Ivar
It's true they would have drifted apart for different goals at some point, but Ivar really SPLIT them as a family and their relationship
@@ststes ivar had to do it in front of so many people it drove them to make a decision follow ubbe or follow ivar if he hadnt questioned ubbes authority the worst case would have been people leaving because ubbe showed weakness
I admit that ivar is smart as hell when it comes to tactics etc. But i feel bad for ubbe :(
And this is how the war between the Ragnar's sons started.
They are supposed to be equal leaders of the Great Army. Now Ubbe and Hvitserk are demoted to followers.
Ubbe just realize Ivar had become a monster. He is not the same brother he loved. This Ivar will be ready to kill him like Sigurd if he didnt agree to Ivar's whims.
Ragnar did the same when he said everyone would be equals in their first raid to England, but he was clearly the leader. He, like Ivar, understood that leadership is not just a title you can give to anyone, you need someone who has the right mindset, skill, and determination to make the hard calls. Ubbe is very skilled, but as of this point, he's just too nice to be the leader. Nothing wrong with that, but leaders need to be ruthless at times like this. Hvitserk is in no way a leader, he's always a follower, and he proved that about three or four times in these three episodes alone. Ivar, however hardcore he may be, has the right mindset, skill and makes the hard calls. He knew from the beginning the Saxons would attack, so instead of fixing the weak point and having to guess where they'd come from, he just let it there and prepared the defenses and traps. No one saw to that but him. Then he went to battle and even though he's disabled, and he stopped an entire army dead on their tracks. Even his own soldiers were impressed and a little scared. Then three victories later (one against Aethelwulf in season 4, one against the Yorkers and one defending York), he warned his brothers openly about not seeking peace with Aethelwulf because he knew that would show weakness and the Saxons wouldn't accept that. And he was right again, and it was out for everyone to see. Ubbe and Ivar are the two halves of Ragnar, one is the peaceful badass who is looking to stop fighting somehow and ensure quality life for the people, and the other is the all out darkness and strategic genius of him who believes that in order to not be attacked you have to terrorize your enemies to submission. Ubbe just wanting to be the leader just because he's the older brother comes off more as petty if anything.
Alexander Angelus I absolutely agree broo
i like ivar because he is not trying to be ragnar and he is carving his own path not trying to imitate his father
because sometimes i feel like ubbe and his other brother are their to fill the gap that ragnar left
Juarez Nofuente Put yourself in Ragnar's shoes, you have created a fucking empire, wouldn't you want your sons to take care of it? Wouldn't you want your sons to make that empire grow even bigger? Because that's what Ubbe wants, meanwhile Ivar is fucking everything up with his overwhelming ambitions and his family fews, he's basically breaking the Vikings in half. What I'm trying to say is, fuck him XD.
oh baby a tripol ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) are you dumb? Did you forget entirely that Ragnar didn’t give 2 shits about being a king? Or how he ran away from his “empire” because he didn’t want it? Lmao
stewbird234450 Are you a pathetic waste of a human being who insults people for no reason whatsoever?
No I did not forget that Ragnar didn't want to be a king... I don't even know why the fuck did you even ask me that...
By the way, nice job on making shit up, because Ragnar didn't ran away because he didn't want his empire. Just make a quick-search to see why he really left, read the words of the show's creator himself. Or maybe he's just as dumb as me right??
And I didn't mean his "Empire" in a literal way, by empire I meant, he's the guy that increased his people's power and riches, and he managed to unite many of the vikings for a cause, and take possession of many lands. And he even gave his life to give his sons a real reason to conquer England, so they can avange him and in the process finally take England and thus make his "empire" even bigger. And he never stoped caring about his people, in fact he told Ivar on their last conversation "I believe you are the most important for our people's future" or something like that. So no, he didn't leave because he didn't want it.
Before you insult someone make sure you have something that makes sense to say or you'll just look like a fucking idiot.
oh baby a tripol ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) lol says the moron who actually thinks ivar is “fucking things up”. Ragnar believed heavily in the future of ivar, and considering that ivar is literally doing what his father told him to do, Ragnar would understand the split in the family, especially since there was always a gap between him and rollo for far dumber reasons. His brothers don’t think him “unworthy” of leading, they’ve just always looked down on him his whole life, whether it’s because of his condition, general lack of respect, or his age, so it’s natural for a split to occur now that he’s gaining his legs (ha) on who he is, and people are starting to accept his greatness.
Damn Ivar the demon king
Vishal Maraj
Oh shut up
Vishal Maraj
How so?
1:08 hahaha IVAR!!!
The Ivar's face
Ubbe is so Ragnar, his manners and personality, they way he moves and now they way he thinks lol
Nope, ubbe is dumb and naive
You’ve got to be joking
in terms of looks only. he's so dumb
@@joaquinespinola2362Ele tá certo. Ubbe é o Ragnar fazendeiro das três primeiras temporadas que queria paz com os cristãos pra dar terras férteis à seu povo. Ubbe também não era ambicioso e não queria ser Rei, assim como Ragnar. Ubbe tinha o desejo de ser um fazendeiro com terras férteis e um explorador, o que Ragnar sempre quis ser.
That is early Ragnar not season 4 Ragnar
The men choose their own leader and Ubbe should accept that. They follow a man who leads them to victory and thats all
Jeroen Wubbels I don’t ivar will lead them to victory he will probably let his anger get in the way and then fuck up just like he killed his brother
It's doesn't matter who is right, only who wins. That's why people follow an Ivar or a Tamerlan cause it's their best choice for survival and enrichement. History repeats itself continuously
This scene is why Hvitserk chose to stay with Ivar.
Despite getting tricked by the Saxons and humiliated by Ivar, Ubbe is still talking as if he is the one in charge, even speaking for Hvitserk without consulting with him.
Ivar may have been power hungry and psychotic, but he was always incredibly intelligent with his battle strategies and was ruthless in his actions, while Ubbe was naive and far too trusting to ever lead the army.
Also, Ubbe was even more naive in assuming that Ragnar would have hated Ivar for splitting the family up.
Did he forget that Ragnar pushed Lagertha and Bjorn away by getting Aslaug pregnant with Ubbe?
Or how about Ragnar and Rollo leading opposing armies against each other?
It really shows how Ivar grew to know Ragnar better than anyone on that trip to England, while the other brothers (besides Bjorn) only knew him from what they’d heard about him from others.
@@markrobinson9394 Its actually really sad because the sons that Ragnar "wanted" hated him in the end and didn't really know him while the son he tried to leave in the forest to die actually got to know the "real" Ragnar and his final dreams and ambitions
@@markrobinson9394 ragnar never pushed lagertha away even less bjorn they left him and rollo betrayed him multiple times and he still saved his life the first time. His family was everything
So True
@@markrobinson9394 Ragnar regretting losing Bjorn and lagertha, so why would he praise someone for doing that? Rollo betraying him caused him serious pain as well, it's probably the last thing that broke Ragnar and caused him to disappear for a few years
Fact is Ragnar was a kind king to his people and ultimately wanted land for them to grow in without fighting, Ivar was neither of those things
Ubbe is letting his pride get in the way. He may be the older brother but Ivar shown to have better judgment then all his brothers. He came up with the strategies which led them to many victories. Ubbe just made a bad decision as the older brother he should accept his mistakes and listen to Ivar.
Ubbe was like his father he never wanted Kingship he wanted land to Ubbe and Ragnar the earth's soil is treasure. So it was easy for Ubbe to walk away from it all.
Ivar is just a boneless badass
shah nutrition training no he’s just a boneless little bitch
@@lol-st1wf he made ubbe his little bitch
1:10 Ubbe should have yelled „Kinslayer“. The impact would have been much bigger
Menno Coehoorn ube is pussy.
Wampire851 Well, if wanting a better life for the northmen is being a pussy then Ragnar was the biggest pussy
I doubt they would care. Jarl borg was telling rollo about how he killed his brother and no one seemed to care other than the jarl.
Jan Michael Vincent True but the circumstances were different. Borgs brother poisoned everyone at his weddings
Wampire851
Ubbe is a pussy ? 😂😂😂 let him and his little brother fight each other in single combat and we will see who the pussy is
I like Ubbe's intentions but he's pretty dumb. Ragnar would've also wanted peace but he wouldn't take the initiative since they are the ones who have a lead over the christians. Ragnar would've waited for the christians to approach him.
Omixam Yep, the thing is each of his sons display certain of his character traits. But Ragnar himself had a balance of them all.
I Think ubbe will learn on this and be more sensible next time after All he was grown up by the tales of great honour warriors so it was normal he tried to be fair and praceful and he made some stupid moved but he will improve
Ubbe is right, Ragnar would be very dissapointed by how ivar treats his family members aka killing them left and right
Ubber got fucked up by the Christians because he acted like a pussy asking for peace Ivar was right never trust a Christian.
i really doubt that, sigurd was weak and dumb
Ragnar from season 1/2 would be, but Ragnar from season 4? I don't think so, Last Ragnar wanted to unleash Ivar to destroy England
Whether Ubbe did the wrong thing or not he is right! Ragnar wanted them all to stick together!
Diutisc Frituom
He literally killed his own brother that spoke out against him. Something tells me Ivar is not keeping the family together nor does he care about his family.
He basically said "As your older brother I will never ever let you be leader of the army, and I don't care that you've proven to be the better strtegist and leader in battle multiple times."
#TeamUbbe
gayy
Theps4guy lol fuck ubbe and lagertha team ivar
Lol i triggered the edgy virgins
Theps4guy lol
Facts, fuck ivar
I LOVED THIS SCENE XD Ubbe the true farmer
Man, I really hope Ubbe proves them wrong in some way
Bram Van den Broeck he cants
And he did:)
Ubbe is a loser
He didn't lol
@@maotsetiandi974 Yeah he did Ubbe established a settlement in wessex for his people and found vinland while Ivar got his ass handed to him terribly again and again in kattegat and in wessex and he's 6ft deep so.... 🤷♂️
Even the crows are laughing at the beginning lol
Y'all know damn well Ubbe was naive asf negotiating with the saxons, and Ivar is the smartest so he should be in charge.
You’re naive
@@jackasnightm5804 very.
There is no leader in the world who doesn't make mistakes even the very best ones do.
Ubbe wanted a long-term mutual beneficial relationship, he wanted his people to be farmers not raiders, He wanted to negotiate peace while they had an upper hand because they were in a foreign land with limited resources with enemies on every side, eventually they had bigger army but no reinforcements meanwhile saxons were fighting a defensive war with unlimited numbers, as we saw eventually the saxons kept getting stronger and Vikings lost. I would have done the same, made a deal with saxons on my term while I had a chance. Ubbe was a better leader here and although his decision was wrong as a whole lot, it was a well thought decision.
Im reality ivar was naive because in the end the viking life disappeared and still joined Christianity so ubbe would have been a better leader ivar lil man complex pushed him to lose it all.
@@caseyclover1647 Exato.
Dam alex andersen is amazing as ivar ♥️♥️ #teamivar
Me i love bjorn ironside because he is a true son of ragnar he wants to travel and explore.
No Ragnar wanted his people strong not to travel and explore. He did the early raids hoping to find better lands. He wanted Vikings to be more United so they can get better lands.
Ragnar did the same thing when he first got to Northumbria and Wessex, he went and met with King Ecbert and Aela to talk about peace. Athelwulf fucked up, why would you attack someone when they've come to discuss peace? Honestly didn't expect that from him.
The guy went up and massacred an entire settlement of unarmed civilians, what was so surprising about what happened here?
It was nor Aethelwulf decision to fuck Ubbe over. He took Alfreds advice to achive peace. It was Heathmund that did not want to negotiate for peace, he wants all vikings (heathens) gone or dead.
Wasnt athelwulf decision...heathmund was not following orders..he gonna get a ass chewed next episode
“our father would hate you for splintering this family”
“ I don’t think so “
remember, what were ragnars last words to ivar? be ruthless. ragnar wanted ivar to be this way. besides, the whole thing with ragnars legacy of farming was long shot down when echbert betrayed him; he wanted revenge hence ivar lol.
I think Ragnar knew he made mistakes especially with the settlement in Wessex and how ecbert killed them all. Ragnar knew he should've sought revenge and yet he didn't, then ecbert hands him off to northumbria to be killed.
Ragnar never meant to be ruthless to his own people, just their enemies. Ragnar was never intentionally as cruel to his own family or people as Ivar was
Ragnar didn't know Ivar well enough to know what kind of monster was in him. I SERIOUSLY doubt he'd be happy with Ivar later burning his own people for not proclaiming him a god
@@ststes Definitely right I think Ivar had taken Ragnars words little close to heart. Although, I do think Ragnar saying, “you must make em pay for it” can be taken out of context to a troubled young kid. Not going to sit here and say ivar burning tons of ppl was warranted hell no. I’m just saying I fr think Ivar took that last conversation w ragnar as “fuck everybody”
@@syd1764 Ubbe e Ivar são dois lados do Ragnar. Ubbe é o Ragnar fazendeiro das três primeiras temporadas que queria paz com os cristãos pra dar terras férteis à seu povo. Ivar é o Ragnar da quarta temporada, com os sonhos em frangalhos e o único desejo de se vingar dos cristãos da Inglaterra por ter sido traído depois de ter seu povo e assentamento destruído. Mas eu gosto mais de Ubbe, ele carrega as melhores características de Ragnar, Ubbe também honra o pai e sonho que ele tinha.
@@ststes Sim. Eu não acho que Ragnar teria ficado satisfeito com o reinado do Ivar na temporada 5. Mas equanto Ivar atacava a Inglaterra, ele estava honrado parte do desejo final do Ragnar: Vingança.
Great Ivar , peace is only achievable when the enemy isn't strategically stronger than u , otherwise ull be at his mercy forever . Ubbe is so naive at the moment .
Exactly. Although I love Ubbe, this was beyond stupid. He could very likely be dead by now and for no reason.
squashedeyeball he did it because he wanted to be like his father. Ragnar did this very thing many times, where he entered in to hostile territory with hardly any backup and uswd cunning and intimidation to get out
squashedeyeball on the long term ubbe is the wisest among the brothers I think , the only one to care bout his fathers dream , but in the short term they need Ivar the only master military tactician , even Bjorn being a great explorer never got that cunning . Of course in the long term ivar only cares for war and glory .
Gaetano De Angelis In the long term they need thwm both and in the short term rhey only need one - themselves.
Gaetano De Angelis the Brothers should have worked together AS ONE, ALWAYS, and passed leadership when the environment and situation changed. Ivar was the man the Nords needed in the War against the Saxon.
But Ubbe would have been perfect for economic, and culture growth after the war in England.
In terms of character, none of the brothers were as great as Ragnar.
It’s like Death of Alexander the Great.
None of his Generals were as strong, and capable as he was; in order to inherit and keep the Empire unified.
Ohhhhhhhhh yeaaa
Ivar The Boneless why do you hate ubbe?
Jaehaerys Targaryen he is weak unworthy to rule the great army
Ivar The Boneless THE WHOLE WORLD WILL FEAR YOU MY SON!GREETINGS FROM VALHALLA
Ubbe should have just fallen in line. Ivar is clearly the superior strategist.
Mas um péssimo Rei pra seu povo. Veja o reinado dele na temporada 5. Apesar de ser mais ingênuo e não ter a mente estratégica de Ragnar, Ubbe era o que mais se importava com o povo dele.
Yeah...well, until the shows last battle and they retreated on Bjorns death....
Ivar the little child.
Ubbe was naive but he knew what Ivar was.
Of course Hvitserk will go with whomever can supply him with the biggest bone. He’s just a follower. Mans best friend till something better comes along.
IVAR !
I stand with Ivar on this one. Ubbe made them look weak, and his decision to go to the saxons with little to no combative support behind Ivar's back has sabotaged the sons of ragnar's unity. Ubbe is much like his father, probably more than any of the other sons. He has a soft spot, he has a good heart, but he allowed his emotions to get the better of him. And that CANT be tolerated when it comes to warfare!
FTS Productions Agree, what Ubbe did was stupid and he put everyone at risk, basically annuling the fact they were winners of battle
I say Ubbe is a very good person and I can't really tell him how sorry I am that I love his love ubbe
Yo everyone makes mistakes even Ragnar did when he tried to attack Paris second time or when he made an agreement with saxons. Ubbe was younger than him and it was his first commanding of the army but he will learn from that situations and improve himslef whereas Ivar is a spoiled arogant little brat who Thinks that he is invincible until he loses one battle and everyone will Turn their backs to him
Ubbe was the spoilt brat who betrayed his brothers because he refused to acknowledge Ivar's superior leadership skills. Ubbe showed his arrogance in refusing to accept Ivar as the rightful leader because Ubbe fucked up and then blamed Ivar. #TeamUbbe has zero credibility.
Rachit Goyal and ivar was a tyrant dipshit who killed his son and then wae betrayed by his wife because he doesnt think long term
You all talk about oh Ivar killed his son blah blah blah Ragnar was going to leave Ivar to the wolves he was bullied and brought down by Sigurd he makes his own path Bjorn and ubbe are hypocrites lagertha is a bitch Ivar doesn’t have a mother or father yet he still can move unlike his brothers who only care about there fathers legacy
@@declanmackinaw532 they use their father's name because they get more credibility. Ivar is different he wants to be more famous than Ragnar ever was. He makes his mission about his needs so people remember him.
@@misterwabbit4690 it's kind of a running theme with all the brothers against Ivar.
"Ivar im really dessapointed at you" and ubbe is right : if ragnar was alive he would desgrace Ivar no doubt
Euclides Oliveira If Ragnar was still alive I think it would turn out a little differently.
Ivar is not stupid. He doesn't forget his and his father's history. You forget quickly how Ragnar died. Do you remember, Ragnar tried diplomacy with Englishmen and they treasoned him, killed his people as ingloriously (i'm talking about innocent farmers that Ragnar bringed to England) and finally killed Ragnar Lothbrok. This is actually Ragnar's plan and working like a charm. So, Ragnar was already know Ivar would do these things. Thats why Ragnar brought Ivar with himself to England. (Sorry for my bad grammar btw)
Ivar learned in a very painful way that after his father had died, he should not have acted emotionally if there is a policy in question. By the way; Ivar was the saddest person after his father was killed. Because Englishmen killed his father in front of his eyes and Ragnar wanted it himself. This was the biggest part of Ragnar's plan.
You're stupid if you think Ragnar would hate Ivar. Ragnar would've sided with Ivar because he is right and Ubbe is wrong.
Ivar is doing exactly what Ragnar told him to do.
IVAAAAR
Ubbe was right about peace I agree with that just the timing of it, the saxons didn’t want peace because they (mostly Ivar) where leading them past the point of asking for peace and all out war
Ivar has gotten more of Rhagnars darker attributes the cunning ruthless side that always lusted for more power and
to push limits beyond expectations.Were Ubbe has Rhagnars more human side the part of him that just want to build a better
life for his family and people
Ubbe e Ivar são dois lados do Ragnar. Ubbe é o Ragnar fazendeiro das três primeiras temporadas que queria paz com os cristãos pra dar terras férteis à seu povo. Ivar é o Ragnar da quarta temporada, com os sonhos em frangalhos e o único desejo de se vingar dos cristãos da Inglaterra por ter sido traído depois de ter seu povo e assentamento destruído. Mas eu gosto mais de Ubbe, ele carrega as melhores características de Ragnar, Ubbe também honra o pai e sonho que ele tinha.
Ivar was the Cartman of Vikings.
bu adam pro
1:12 ivar shit himself, nobody ignores ubbe
KOGOS More like was gona fuck Ubbe up for disrespecting him. Ubbe got upset.
Lmao Ubbe would fuck up Ivar with one hand. Ivar's own bodyguards shit themselves when Ubbe steps near them.
John Wick Ivar is no match for Ubbe lol
John Wick
Lmfao what is Ivar gonna do bite Ubbe's ankles??
Taimoor Shah before he can do that he will struck in the chest by axe just like sigurd
Ivars fails in is his inability to successfully maintain unity, whilst consolidating his power.
I believe Ivar lacks Charisma.
He could have gotten more men if all his brother's and their resources stayed with him.
crackshack2 he's brother took one boat with like 15 guys. The heathen army has like ten thousand or something like that.
Ya know, the history channel has budget constraints lol
not a huge fan of how they portray ubbe as incompetent or how the brothers cant work together, i could have them mixed up but previous seasons show him as clever as Ragnar when he was a child (winning at their version of chess, finding floki, ect) and now hes making very basic and dangerous mistakes. My understanding is Ubbe and Ivar worked together with Hvitserk the whiteshirt until ivar went to rule his territory in Ireland. Ubbe is believed to have died fighting wessex while hvitserk would die raiding in western Russia
This scene was where I started to lose interest in the show. Ivar and Ubbe were supposed to be the team which brought the English kingdoms to their knees. Making them enemies wasn't nearly as interesting to me.
#TeamIvar all the way
Lidia Hemsworth he will be killed by the bishop
Drakiv i don't think so
+nagato uzumaki i know that ivar dies in peace the others abouth ubbe and hvistserk deads i didnt know very intresting
the createros kills sigurd , we will see if the other brothes dies the same way they die in history...do u know how lagertha die ?
Fuck #TeamIvar. Bunch of children(ivar fans) who wants to see a childish psycho freak(ivar) torture innocent peoples.
I don’t know why people like Ivar. Such a brat
if I'm Ubbe Ivar would be long dead.
What Ubbe did was beyond stupid. He didn't only almost get them killed, he also made them seem weak. (not to forget he got played for that land they "got") He has good intentions, but he is a terrible leader and a coward. Ivar is true leader and a conqueror.
Serenity Escape I agree Ubbe made a bad call, but he's no coward. The problem is he doesn't have Ivar's ruthlessness or killer instinct. It seems a little one-dimensional to call Ubbe a nice guy, but that's accurate enough. Ragnar made mistakes, but he was much more shrewd. Ubbe needs some more seasoning. Bjorn was the same way. I just hope Ubbe survives long enough to become worthy of Ragnar's name.
Ivar is the cowered he’s only all high and mighty because he has power handed to him as soon as it’s gone he will become a little bitch
lol Actually no, I don't agree. I would comment more but you didn't give any argument to support your theory....
I am pretty sure Ubbe is an actual stooge
Ubbe did the right thing, only one who fcked up was Aethelwulf.
Ubbe is at fault here. He ignored Ivar, went behind his back to conspire with the enemy, which then backfired at him, and he refused to acknowledge his mistake, throws a temper tantrum by leaving and blames Ivar for breaking the family. Ragnar would've called Ubbe a coward.
Semelhante ao rei Horik fodendo a negociação dos cristãos e nórdicos da 2 temporada. O Aethewuf quis negociar naquela época hahaha.
Rollo the best viking the most powerful and rich at this moment
Drakiv yes, Rollo has certainly achieved a lot, probably more than he ever expected. I don't know much about him histotically, but I can't help but think that karmically there's going to be some payback in the future for his betrayal of Ragnar and his fellow Vikings. The real Rollo was a warlord in his own right who fought for the Franks in exchange for land. Eventually he converted to Christianity, too. In the show Rollo did what he did all for his own gain. I can appreciate that he was always impatient to get out of Ragnar's shadow, but his treachery was a lousy way to go about it. Even though I'm sure nothing like this will happen in the series, it wouldn't surprise me if the Franks or his precious bitch of a wife Gisla stab him in the back sometime in the future. He might grovel alongside the Franks in their churchs, but one thing that was very apparent when he accompanied Bjorn on his raid in Spain is that at heart Rollo's still a Viking and consequently a pagan, and these Christians, whether Frank or Saxon, don't tolerate pagans. Those Viking settlers Aethelwulf and his ilk massacred can testify to that.
James Burke Rollo was the grand grand grand father of guillaume le conquerant who win in hastings in 1066
But Franks play well with rollo but rollo is like ivar in some case they are just megalomaniac and think for themselves and not for the viking like ragnard and ubbe
Ironic. The Vikings may not conquer the Saxons but the Normans will under William the Conquer a descendant of Rollo's. I guess in a roundabout way the Viking's got the last laugh.
James Burke yes ironic indeed but the normans was not viking anymore about culture language religion etc
But in the last christian beat the vikings when harald king of norway decide to be a christian and the raid on europe stop and vikibg culture going to die slowly
Understood. I guess I was putting the cart before the horse, William the Conqueror being a descendant of Rollo's, etc. Thanks for keeping things in the correct historical context.
Unlike Ragnar! Ivar was opposite he wanted power so bad. Ragnar never wanted power, after he killed Haraldson. He was then congratulated by the people around him as earl ragnar and then after that the betrayal of king horik made him king because the people made him but not ragnar.
Sim. Ubbe lembra mais o Ragnar. Apesar de Ubbe ser mais ingênuo e não ter a mente estratégica que o Ragnar tinha.
Ubbe left cuz his ego not ivar
Ragnars sons do tower above Ragnars habits and qualities, Ubbe is far more responsible altho responsibility was forced upon Ragnar. Bjorn has Ragnars sense off adventure but towers above Ragnars exploration both in travel and woman. But Ivar.. well Ivar unlike his father has almost no limitations in his wits, cunning and strategy hes not hold back to unleash all off his ruthless wrath and ambition when the time is right something Ragnar had to struggle with quite alot "Im constantly torn between killing myself.. or everyone arround me" Unlike Ragnar in alot off ways its rather expected from Ivar, something he learned from his father.
Anyone got a link to the episode!?
Here you go fam estream.to/ykfvhi0u6neb.html (adblock is recommended)
vidzi.tv/4q3l763ysiqq.html
watch32.is/movie/kvXYP5xe-vikings-season-5.html
Legends!
jacson robinson go to history channels own website and watch it for free, don't go to these obscure websites, go straight from the source
he is right ivar i love him finish with saxon
If only ubbe was smart he would rule over everyone . But he isnt undo
#Teambjörn
Ivar doesn't do anything. He's a fucking cripple for goodness sake. He's sadistic and evil. Lets not forget ragnar himself would have advocated diplomacy with the Saxons.
All battle strategies came from Ivar, so I wouldn't say he doesn't do anything...he may not be able to fight as others but his intelect got them this far
Serenity Escape the strategy to wait for the saints day was from ubbe you bafoon
Lucille First of her Name, Queen of the Saviors take a look at your name, then ask the question again with a straight face
Noah H Oh good, the only "strategy" Ubbe had was what he heard from Ragnar...sounds like a genious
Serenity Escape everything ivar has done he learnt from Ragnar. That stupid argument applies to all brothers. And, if it was so simple, why didn't Ivar the sociopath think of it? Because he's irrational and impulsive.
never in a million years would a cripple be leading a viking army, never.
People be reping Ivar but he Lost in the end
Because he want to die
asloug should have left him in the woods
lol then everyone would've been dead
J.J B who knows, the events would have likely been uh different.
Bit boring tho hahah
He's the reason everyone is alive 😂😂😂
i hope you joking boy
After bjorn left as the oldest brother ubbe should have taken charge and just put ivar in his place. I know it's because he's caring and loves his brothers but he should have taken charge
no r waY. Denmar k
UBBE > HVITSERK > IVAR
Ivar > Hvitserk > Ubbe (last for being dumb)
I'm reading some of these comments. And apparently Ivar's character is so hard core. He triggered some beta leftists. LMAO!
I'm 😂laughing because people
expected Ivar to be like Ragnar
bit*h please he is Ivar the boneless
He's not a follower, nice guy,
He is a mean nasty ruthless leader,
Ivar may have some Ragnar ways
when it comes to mind skills set on strategies in war militares
but he has a cold heart like his
Mother Aslaug more and
Floki was the one help raised
Ivar not Ragnar Lothbrok,
Ivar only cares about winning
the war for his glory success
for him and his armies not
anyone else.
Besides from Floki, all the people
that loves Ivar is dead excrept
Sigurd.
And neither one of Ivar Brothers
doesn't see him as their equal
like rest and Ivar hates that,
He even told his brothers this,
He told them that the God's
chose him as their thier leader
Ubbe e Ivar são dois lados do Ragnar. Ubbe é o Ragnar fazendeiro das três primeiras temporadas que queria paz com os cristãos pra dar terras férteis à seu povo. Ivar é o Ragnar da quarta temporada, com os sonhos em frangalhos e o único desejo de se vingar dos cristãos da Inglaterra por ter sido traído depois de ter seu povo e assentamento destruído. Mas eu gosto mais de Ubbe, ele carrega as melhores características de Ragnar, Ubbe também honra o pai e sonho que ele tinha.
Ubbe também se asemelha mais a Ragnar por não querer poder, apenas ser um explorador e fazendeiro com terras férteis. O Ivar diferente de Ragnar era ambicioso e queria ser Rei, tendo o desejo de ser maior do que o próprio Ragnar. Também acredito que o Ragnar não teria ficado satisfeito com o reinado do Ivar na temporada 5.
#TeamUbbe
#TeamUbbe
#TeamUbbe