"Dont make us feel sorry for you brother, because we will never will" Is the respect Ivar wanted from them, that little smirk says it all. Respect to eachother. That didnt last very long but still.
A big reason why I like Ivar is because he never used being a son of Ragnar as a stepping stone. And when he faced the Saxon army alone he screamed shouting his name and his name only.
Yes he absolutely did use his family as leverage. That was the entire reason he rose to command. The army was organized and commanded by Bjorn, who was the only brother who had already established a reputation. Bjorn, perhaps foolishly, departed England, and left the army in the care of Ubbe, Hvitsek and Ivar. Ivar only received a share of command because he was Bjorn's brother, and because his brothers forgave him. He could, after all, have been executed for Sigurd's death, but was spared. Bjorn later spared Hvitserk too - he is, after all, not predisposed to kinslaying. Bishop Heahmund also explains that he knows full well who Ivar is - "You are Ivar, son of Ragnar Lothbrok, and many there are, who fear you". This is despite the fact that Ivar had done comparatively little at that time, and had only just captured York. And yet, his father and older brother had raided Frankia twice and been a scourge on England. Ivar is indeed smart, smarter than all his brothers, but he would hardly deny that he had certain advantages due to his birth and to family connections. Viking society respected martial prowess and a reputation for bravery and cruelty, much more than and intellect and scholarship, the two things Ivar had over his brothers. Also, no Viking family that was not the height of nobility would ever raise a crippled child. Ivar's entire existence depended upon him being born royal.
@Grim Peeper even bjorn? He proved himself as a warrior, ubbe probably would’ve had a very similar story to Ragnar as he seems to truly want to explore the west
Ubbe messed up by sharing the leadership with his brothers. He shouldve took charge like bjorn did, like he told him to. Sharing the power gives ivar space to take it
yea.. Ubbe did that because of the kindness in his heart.. kind enough to share the power to his brothers... but sometimes.. i find kindness.. can bring bad things back to you
Viking soldier was not a territory that could have divided based on seniority but those who can lead and win battle had the better channce to lead and ivar had ambition and better leadership quality.
I love how you see that ivar is happier with hvitserk's comment to his cripple statement. Ubbe sympathises and makes it sound like a disability but hvitserk gives him shit and basically says get over it like a brother would jokingly
It's because Ubbe is the eldest brother and had to care for Ivar the most, while Hvitserk is just there. If you watch the scenes where the brothers are together, you will see the Ubbe is the one who always cared for Ivar.
I mean it does make sense that the brother who has weak bones would want to surround himself with men loyal to him and not his brothers. Kinda defeats the purpose of having bodyguards if they don't do the one job they were given which is to follow ivars orders.
2:10 - "In order to be your equal, I have to do better than you, because I have to make you forget that I'm a cripple" - true of any disabled person dealing with anything, physically or not, even now
@@kathrynmolesa1641 He loved his wife. But he also wanted to kill her for betraying him. His wife wasn't even that good. She literally had sex with another man and acted like it was Ivar's child.
What are you on? I was saying that it was awesome that even though the bodyguard towered over ubbe he didn't take any of his shit and pretty much told the bodyguard to go fuck himself.... Don't know where you got the idea that i hated ubbe from
Love how ubbe gets all in his face like "Look fam, I don't fucking care WHO you are. BUT you best move before I shove my damn axe so far into your skull, the gods themselves won't be able to remove it"
"We are brothers Ivar, therefore you must consult with us about everything" Also Ubbe and Hvistverg: *Proceeds to make the dumbest battle decision in Vikings without consulting Ivar, getting their men killed and being humiliated in the process*
Bjron leads like Ragnar Ivar thinks like Ragnar Ubbe looks like Ragnar Hvitserk fights like Ragnar Siguard ..................... I think he is adopted 😅😅😅😅😂😂😂😂
9IJIereHga I think the same! But Lagertha stops Ubbe to kill bishop on the first battle (5x8) maybe that and the next battle against Ivar have made he forget about it ( sorry for my bad english)
he forgave lagertha for killing his mom and was willing to work with ivar after killing another one of his brothers and tried to help hvitserk after jumping ship so he is just good at forgiving
It always pissed me off man. Aside from how Heahmund went from being so damn intense and having such a presence and conviction as a character, to being all but pussy whipped within two seconds of knowing Lagertha (except the episode he dies where he realises God in his entirety), I always thought it would have been more appropriate if Hvitserk gave him a beating while he was Ivar's prisoner and then later if Ubbe did the same and they actually discussed Heahmund ruining their attempts at peace. Two whoopings for the one he delivered to Ubbe. But like Luix said, Ubbe does try to kill him on the battlefield.
Ubbe is definitely stronger and braver than Ivar. Whenever Ivar is close to death he breaks down e.g. when his and Ragnar's ship is about to be destroyed by a massive wave, and after he gets stabbed repeatedly in the gut. Ubbe, when he is close to death, in his fight against Frodo, and afterwards, keeps his cool. Also, Ivar never put himself in harm's way nearly as many times as Ubbe has. Ivar is a trash talking punk with an inferiority complex. He knows Ubbe is braver and stronger than him. Same with Bjorn. They're better men than him so he resents them. And Hvitserk is mentally tougher than Ivar as well, since when he was about to be burned alive he was at peace with it.
that is becasue he is a good actor, he doesent overact, you buy that he is scary for that moment when is necessary, not screaming likr crazy all the time like the Ivar actor does
Fun fact: Ivar's real life brothers acknowledged him as the better leader, and weren't so prideful and stubborn to say otherwise, ending in them working alongside him.
A differ in words too, Ubbe loves ivar and feels bad of his affliction. That angers ivar but hvitserk says that they will never feel sorry for him which is what ivar wants. He doesn’t want people looking down on him cuz he’s a cripple until Ragnar tells him he can use it as a weapon
Noah H yes of course ragnar was complexe but so is ivar he is a psycho but with feelings you never know what to expect with him and i like charachters like that i don't love them or relate to them but i enjoy them
Not to take away from ubbe, but it looked like the white haired guard looked at hvitzerk before deciding to stand down. My head canon is that hvitzerk has a reputation as a fucking nut job in a fight
It's hilarious seeing Whitehair being an absolute background character with a few little moments here and there until they finally actually make good use of him only by the time of Season 6 part 1, despite how great of a presence he had in the seasons before, like in this episode, despite such minimal time spent being built into any kind of character with substance.
Fellow Templar Well too bad, Ivarr is the most famous, he was the stragist, the general and the smartest, Ubbe was the warrior, the fiercest of them all, while Hvitsärk was the bravest. In their own talent Bjorn was no better than any of them, but he was an amalgamation of all them, he wasn't smarter than Ivarr, a better warrior than Ubbe or as brave as Hvitsärk, but at least he lived more than any of them. Now, the one who was closer to obtain absolut power over England was Guthrum, who according to the series is Bjorn's stepson.
Bryan quijanes ortega naaaaah none of the them are better warriors than Bjorn Ironside, he’d already earned his nickname by the time he was same age as Ivar. Hvitserk himself doesn’t think Ubbe could beat Bjorn, (s4b ep17) in fact even Ubbe decided not to fight Lagertha as soon as Björn was there, same reason the writers left him out of the scene with ragner (who wants to be king, s4Bep11) he’s skewered and butchered berserkers, beaten Mountain Bears one vs one, he beat the English and the French with his father, and raided the Spanish coast where he even saved Hvitserk. Björns probably the greatest Viking Warrior we’ve seen so far in the show, considering for all he’s done since season 1, he’s only just the same age as Ragnar season 1. P.s. before you drag up wiki history I do know about the the fate of Ragnar sons which is why I’m only going off what we’ve seen in the show, like the fact that the other sons are still young and have to develop like Bjorn
lxchness Not really wiki history, there are several novelizations of this story, the one by Bernard Cornwell is my favorite one, but there are several others like The First Warrior or the North Atlantic saga (while they are novels and try to fill some gaps with imagination, they are still based on historical facts), and there is also history (not the one from wiki). Ivarr and Ubbe are the "first" of the great vikings leaders who are clearly found in history, (not only in Saga songs or drinking tales that evolved through time many times), they established the Danelaw in most of England and important parts of Ireland, many of their actions are documented, that makes them different to Ragnar and Bjorn. For example the "dead man plot" is sometimes atributed to Ragnar and other times to Bjorn. Before them there were only vikings raids, they managed to obtain a true foothold outside of Scandinavia with the Conquest of Northumbria, East Anglia, Mercia, Dublin. I am not saying that Bjorn is not cool, only that the others are the ones who are truly famous of the Lothbrok, with Ivarr being the most famous of the Vikings generals, and Ubbe as the most famous warrior. But we will have to wait and see what happens in the show. BUT the cast has a great influence in this, Ivarr, Hvitsark and Ubbe look like the ugly ones in the family conpared to Bjorn, so obviously Bjorn will have more protagonism than them.
Jordan’s Scottish side came out when he told the guy he wouldn’t have a tongue to tell him with . 😂 I have seen that look many a time when Scottish guys square off 🏴😝
Nothing about ubbe tells me he is a leader. He is a follower. He wasnt a leader in the beginning, he was just the old brother. He wasnt a leader when lagertha took over kattegat. He wasnt a leader when they great army sailed to england. Ivar always took charge, the only reason björn became the leader was because he was yelling and ivar was a cripple. But ivar was as much in charge as björn was. It was because of ivars cunning and tactics that they won, he unofficially took charge in that moment, björn knows this. Just look next episode. Ivar will declare he is the leader of the army. Ubbe wont accept it but they will follow ivar because he IS the leader. Then ubbe will flee to lagertha like the follower he is.
I love ivar and ubbe i dont support ivar at all cause im mentally same but i think he is an amazing character. Tbh the show writers want us to side with ubbe he is the most rational out of all the sons and seems to have more moral thought than the rest
Seems like they are discussing the wrong thing. Ivar is rigth that it does make sense for a cripple in a leadership position to have bodyguards. However why have said bodyguards not been instructed to allow Ubbe and Hvitserk to see him without question?
Bruh, you see him guarding Ivar later in the season, and you see him fighting in the siege at the end of 5b. Watch it again, the white haired guy disarms Harald.
In real...ivar was not a cripple. . He was called boneless because... he was so strong. Ran n fell off hills n mountains n was never hurt......he was called boneless (no broken bones)
Yes but if I beat a man to death for pointing a gun at me I get life in prison our laws do not support men of pride it's a soft little game of victims and blame I just wish I could challenge my enemies to a duel but even that is too brutal for our pathetic society of rainbows and emotions
Why is it so hard for ubbe to accept ivar as the leader of the great army, its not about the age he is a better tactician and a better commander, so he must be the leader
Because he can already see that Ivar would lead their people to destruction. Ubbe knows there is are battles that cannot be won by tactics or by having a better commander. Better off to settle on the land that they have legal right to and forge alliances with more powerful English lords. Ivar usurped Ubbe's command and got wiped out by Alfred's army effectively cutting off any chance to settle in England which was the whole point.
That was Ivars biggest thing, he always had to be and do better, so people would know he was Ivar the boneless! Not a cripple but a GOD. Ivar always seen his crippled self as that. But everyone else saw a fierce warrior. Son of Ragnar, and he always wanted to be better then Ragnar, Floki knew that, But I still don’t agree with the series Killing off Björn to the hand of Ivar.
He's far from just being a "psychotic crippled man", he's a balsy leader and is really good strategically That's why he is so charismatic eventhough he's an evil twat
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"Dont make us feel sorry for you brother, because we will never will" Is the respect Ivar wanted from them, that little smirk says it all. Respect to eachother. That didnt last very long but still.
I feel like Hvitserk always respected Ivar
It didn't last long because Ubbe and Hvistverg with their hypocrisy, tried to make peace after winning a single battle in secrecy.
🤣 Hvitserk pushing that one guard before running to Ubbe!
Yeah he stiff armed the dudes shield lol
jsjsaj typical little brother
You all seem to forget how good a fighter he actually was lol
"that's my older brother!"
In true lil brother fashion
A big reason why I like Ivar is because he never used being a son of Ragnar as a stepping stone. And when he faced the Saxon army alone he screamed shouting his name and his name only.
Except when he declared himself King of Kattegat
@Monkey King - Agreed, despite seeming to be his favored son in a way.
Yes he absolutely did use his family as leverage.
That was the entire reason he rose to command. The army was organized and commanded by Bjorn, who was the only brother who had already established a reputation. Bjorn, perhaps foolishly, departed England, and left the army in the care of Ubbe, Hvitsek and Ivar. Ivar only received a share of command because he was Bjorn's brother, and because his brothers forgave him. He could, after all, have been executed for Sigurd's death, but was spared. Bjorn later spared Hvitserk too - he is, after all, not predisposed to kinslaying.
Bishop Heahmund also explains that he knows full well who Ivar is - "You are Ivar, son of Ragnar Lothbrok, and many there are, who fear you". This is despite the fact that Ivar had done comparatively little at that time, and had only just captured York. And yet, his father and older brother had raided Frankia twice and been a scourge on England.
Ivar is indeed smart, smarter than all his brothers, but he would hardly deny that he had certain advantages due to his birth and to family connections. Viking society respected martial prowess and a reputation for bravery and cruelty, much more than and intellect and scholarship, the two things Ivar had over his brothers.
Also, no Viking family that was not the height of nobility would ever raise a crippled child. Ivar's entire existence depended upon him being born royal.
@Grim Peeper even bjorn? He proved himself as a warrior, ubbe probably would’ve had a very similar story to Ragnar as he seems to truly want to explore the west
Yea he just declared himself as god ivar is crazy nothing else
Ubbe messed up by sharing the leadership with his brothers. He shouldve took charge like bjorn did, like he told him to. Sharing the power gives ivar space to take it
sinSAMA86 He said he is afraid of Ivar..
yea.. Ubbe did that because of the kindness in his heart.. kind enough to share the power to his brothers... but sometimes.. i find kindness.. can bring bad things back to you
Ubbe wasn't smart enough. Ivar is the one with the brains. Plus Ubbe is weak willed.
@@benredmond55 He did it because more people were willing to follow Ivar and he knew if he split the army his force would be smaller.
Viking soldier was not a territory that could have divided based on seniority but those who can lead and win battle had the better channce to lead and ivar had ambition and better leadership quality.
"I am a...cripple?" lol
Perfect. xD
I love how you see that ivar is happier with hvitserk's comment to his cripple statement. Ubbe sympathises and makes it sound like a disability but hvitserk gives him shit and basically says get over it like a brother would jokingly
Well of all the brothers him and ivar were kind of the closest
no.
jokingly?
It's because Ubbe is the eldest brother and had to care for Ivar the most, while Hvitserk is just there.
If you watch the scenes where the brothers are together, you will see the Ubbe is the one who always cared for Ivar.
"Why do you need bodyguards Ivar?"
Umm... Im a cripple...
Quentin Lennox he said that to get power and he took over
@@biggiecheese9708 yea he have power cause the man are of his not his brother
I mean it does make sense that the brother who has weak bones would want to surround himself with men loyal to him and not his brothers. Kinda defeats the purpose of having bodyguards if they don't do the one job they were given which is to follow ivars orders.
1:21 Ivar like boi I’ve enough problems.😂
@@MrHamSandwhich Lol, Ubbe was trying to guilt him into ceding personal power.
1:42 - Ivar playing his own little game - emphasising he doesn't *THINK* he's the leader, because in his mind, he already *KNOWS* he is
2:10 - "In order to be your equal, I have to do better than you, because I have to make you forget that I'm a cripple" - true of any disabled person dealing with anything, physically or not, even now
@@AeonTheAfrican there he goes... Playing the race card😒 it's an old card, dull, irrelevant.
@@amenthegreat3761 i'm black and I agree with u, self victim is pathetic
@@amenthegreat3761 do you racism doesn’t exist anymore or something?
@@AeonTheAfrican So are you saying that all black mans in america are disabled?
@@guilhermelisboa1857 No. Im saying that Black where treated as if they were. So we had to be exceptional to get what an average someone else would
That bodyguard looks badass af
Danny M Why so upset?
Danny M I just said that he looks badass, not that he really is
warriors respect power through brutality and cunning. this is why they were loyal to ragnar and now to ivar
@Danny M He dodge a arrow easily fire by Magnus so uhhh think first before u judge him quickly
@@hoovergroover5340 he killed Magnus also
0:10 I like how Hvitserk was ready to take his sword to kill everyone without questions
These three brothers are true to form:
Ubbe /first born/responsible
Hvitseck/middle son/negotiator
Ivar/youngest/manipulator
"manipulator" lol he didn't manipulate his wife. His own wife betraying him had to make him lose.
@@shinybaldboy4384
Ivar killed his wife. That is the ultimate manipulation.
@@kathrynmolesa1641 He loved his wife. But he also wanted to kill her for betraying him.
His wife wasn't even that good. She literally had sex with another man and acted like it was Ivar's child.
Ubbe was the one who closely resembles his father they are very alike he's kind he's thoughtful he cares
"No you won't, because you won't have a tongue to ask him with. I will nail you to that post just over there. Do you understand?"
*ok meme intensifies*
Ubbe The Fearless
I'd say thats a fitting name for him.
He fears ivar... He said it once
Fear only God
@@mustafomuhammadiyev4058 Out of love though he's not afraid of him in the way that everyone is
Hvitserk needs more lines. And how he pushed the guard😂❤️
Ubbe doesn't take shit from no one
go fuck yourself while you think ivar's ball.
fucking annoying cripple
ubbe is greatest.
What are you on? I was saying that it was awesome that even though the bodyguard towered over ubbe he didn't take any of his shit and pretty much told the bodyguard to go fuck himself.... Don't know where you got the idea that i hated ubbe from
KOGOS sorry man, my english is bad. I understood just now
Too bad Ubbe didn't have children to continue his names on.
His legacy will live forever. That's all that matters :)
This part of the episode really peaked my interest. I like the friction between the brothers
Fact.
0:44 Hvitserk was like, "Just yesterday I let you take the money from the game and now you play this bullshit on me? Fuck you man"
i love hvitserk in this scene
I love Hvitserk in every scene
Ivar has he best facial expressions
Ally Cat guess he needs them cause he is at a bit of a disadvantage when it comes to body language
Alex is a good actor, he plays Ivar very well ❤️
Love how ubbe gets all in his face like "Look fam, I don't fucking care WHO you are. BUT you best move before I shove my damn axe so far into your skull, the gods themselves won't be able to remove it"
Ivars acting in S5 should have won awards
The white hair looks so perfect for Witcher character .lol.
Excuse me Mr
hvitserk needs more lines
He is dead now. No more lines for all 😂
@@ludwiggraupe7571 no he isn’t
Huh
@@michaeldrozd2861 The hole Serie is dead. No more lines for all
@@ludwiggraupe7571 he's very much alive 🤣
love the way Hvitserk plays with the man holding the shield lol
I like how ivar says it with a dumb tone
“Im a crippled, i need a bodeyguard”
"We are brothers Ivar, therefore you must consult with us about everything"
Also Ubbe and Hvistverg: *Proceeds to make the dumbest battle decision in Vikings without consulting Ivar, getting their men killed and being humiliated in the process*
Hvitserk was like: I will remember you. LOL
Bjron leads like Ragnar
Ivar thinks like Ragnar
Ubbe looks like Ragnar
Hvitserk fights like Ragnar
Siguard .....................
I think he is adopted 😅😅😅😅😂😂😂😂
Ubbe dreams like Ragnar
Hes his mother Aslaug
Bjorn leads like Ragnar? Bjorn was a lousy commander
Sigurd talks like Aslaug.
Bjorn never had any qualities similar to Ragnar.
I like how ubbe forgot about what heathmund had done to him then and was totally fine with fighting along him
9IJIereHga I think the same! But Lagertha stops Ubbe to kill bishop on the first battle (5x8) maybe that and the next battle against Ivar have made he forget about it ( sorry for my bad english)
Enemy of my enemy at that time they were all making alliances
he forgave lagertha for killing his mom and was willing to work with ivar after killing another one of his brothers and tried to help hvitserk after jumping ship so he is just good at forgiving
It always pissed me off man. Aside from how Heahmund went from being so damn intense and having such a presence and conviction as a character, to being all but pussy whipped within two seconds of knowing Lagertha (except the episode he dies where he realises God in his entirety), I always thought it would have been more appropriate if Hvitserk gave him a beating while he was Ivar's prisoner and then later if Ubbe did the same and they actually discussed Heahmund ruining their attempts at peace. Two whoopings for the one he delivered to Ubbe. But like Luix said, Ubbe does try to kill him on the battlefield.
Because like Rollo said in Season one, similar to Ragnar “he doesn’t hold grudges, he’s weird like that”.
Ivar says Ubbe is soft. He never seen half the stuff Ubbe did.
That's right.
In every war scene he and Hvitserk are 2 fucking blood machines...
@@LetotheBlue he's soft compared to Ivar, anyone is but ubbes not soft
And for that exact reason alone should they have been more ruthless than ivar but aren’t. Ok bye.
I feel like Ubbe is on the softer side.
Ubbe is definitely stronger and braver than Ivar. Whenever Ivar is close to death he breaks down e.g. when his and Ragnar's ship is about to be destroyed by a massive wave, and after he gets stabbed repeatedly in the gut. Ubbe, when he is close to death, in his fight against Frodo, and afterwards, keeps his cool. Also, Ivar never put himself in harm's way nearly as many times as Ubbe has. Ivar is a trash talking punk with an inferiority complex. He knows Ubbe is braver and stronger than him. Same with Bjorn. They're better men than him so he resents them. And Hvitserk is mentally tougher than Ivar as well, since when he was about to be burned alive he was at peace with it.
As angry as bjorn and ivar look, I'd be the most scared of Ubbe by far.
That dead eyed, cold, psychopathic stare!
that is becasue he is a good actor, he doesent overact, you buy that he is scary for that moment when is necessary, not screaming likr crazy all the time like the Ivar actor does
Ubbe is the typical cool headed relaxed man, nice guy. But annoy him, or make hin angry and you'll regret it.
If your on his good side he's one of the best people you know if your on his bad side you may as well go dig your own grave
Ubbe has the best battle cry among the brothers too
Fun fact: Ivar's real life brothers acknowledged him as the better leader, and weren't so prideful and stubborn to say otherwise, ending in them working alongside him.
A differ in words too, Ubbe loves ivar and feels bad of his affliction. That angers ivar but hvitserk says that they will never feel sorry for him which is what ivar wants. He doesn’t want people looking down on him cuz he’s a cripple until Ragnar tells him he can use it as a weapon
This scene made both Ubbe and Hvitserk my favourite Ragnar sons.
I like ubbe it seems that he doesn't like killing but the most intresting charachter is ivar he is the most complexe
mer kikima he's not complex at all. He's just a psycho. Ragnar was complex. He was astute, and was not merely a blood thirsty viking; ivar is.
Noah H yes of course ragnar was complexe but so is ivar he is a psycho but with feelings you never know what to expect with him and i like charachters like that i don't love them or relate to them but i enjoy them
Noah H ivar how low tolerance for idiots, and high emphasis on darwinism.
crackshack2 if he had a high emphasis on darwinism, he woudn't have care if his father caved his head in with an axe
We're talking about Ivar not Ragnar?
It's a good thing that bodyguard stepped aside, otherwise he would have ended up like King Frodo.
0:18 why does it sound like Ubbe is saying "I want to speak to my brother Ivar nigga get out of my way" LOL tell me I'm not the only one
Right?! I lost it when i heard it the first time lol
Yeah but it is "now get out of my way"
Ubbe had exclusive rights to the n word pass man
Ivar is my idol man, that man doesn't give up...
Not to take away from ubbe, but it looked like the white haired guard looked at hvitzerk before deciding to stand down. My head canon is that hvitzerk has a reputation as a fucking nut job in a fight
Agreed
It's hilarious seeing Whitehair being an absolute background character with a few little moments here and there until they finally actually make good use of him only by the time of Season 6 part 1, despite how great of a presence he had in the seasons before, like in this episode, despite such minimal time spent being built into any kind of character with substance.
wish they used more of him in the earlier season he is badass
Say whatever you want, but Bjorn is the best of all them. Maybe not the best father... But a great leader.
Fellow Templar
Well too bad, Ivarr is the most famous, he was the stragist, the general and the smartest, Ubbe was the warrior, the fiercest of them all, while Hvitsärk was the bravest.
In their own talent Bjorn was no better than any of them, but he was an amalgamation of all them, he wasn't smarter than Ivarr, a better warrior than Ubbe or as brave as Hvitsärk, but at least he lived more than any of them.
Now, the one who was closer to obtain absolut power over England was Guthrum, who according to the series is Bjorn's stepson.
Bryan quijanes ortega naaaaah none of the them are better warriors than Bjorn Ironside, he’d already earned his nickname by the time he was same age as Ivar. Hvitserk himself doesn’t think Ubbe could beat Bjorn, (s4b ep17) in fact even Ubbe decided not to fight Lagertha as soon as Björn was there, same reason the writers left him out of the scene with ragner (who wants to be king, s4Bep11) he’s skewered and butchered berserkers, beaten Mountain Bears one vs one, he beat the English and the French with his father, and raided the Spanish coast where he even saved Hvitserk. Björns probably the greatest Viking Warrior we’ve seen so far in the show, considering for all he’s done since season 1, he’s only just the same age as Ragnar season 1.
P.s. before you drag up wiki history I do know about the the fate of Ragnar sons which is why I’m only going off what we’ve seen in the show, like the fact that the other sons are still young and have to develop like Bjorn
Fellow Templar hvitserk and Ivar
lxchness
Not really wiki history, there are several novelizations of this story, the one by Bernard Cornwell is my favorite one, but there are several others like The First Warrior or the North Atlantic saga (while they are novels and try to fill some gaps with imagination, they are still based on historical facts), and there is also history (not the one from wiki).
Ivarr and Ubbe are the "first" of the great vikings leaders who are clearly found in history, (not only in Saga songs or drinking tales that evolved through time many times), they established the Danelaw in most of England and important parts of Ireland, many of their actions are documented, that makes them different to Ragnar and Bjorn. For example the "dead man plot" is sometimes atributed to Ragnar and other times to Bjorn.
Before them there were only vikings raids, they managed to obtain a true foothold outside of Scandinavia with the Conquest of Northumbria, East Anglia, Mercia, Dublin.
I am not saying that Bjorn is not cool, only that the others are the ones who are truly famous of the Lothbrok, with Ivarr being the most famous of the Vikings generals, and Ubbe as the most famous warrior.
But we will have to wait and see what happens in the show. BUT the cast has a great influence in this, Ivarr, Hvitsark and Ubbe look like the ugly ones in the family conpared to Bjorn, so obviously Bjorn will have more protagonism than them.
lxchness
And taking the show into account, I think thar Rollo is the greatest warrior we have seen until, he did some crazy shit in the Paris siege.
These Bodyguards are badass. Unlike the shieldmaidens.
@Semper fidelis Semper Paratus lol never
How he just going to talk to The Witcher like that?
Damn, this Irish-looking bodyguard look badass.
Hes Irish in real life lol
@Mason McCarty that comment was false in every part
Ivar was a piece lol but sometimes you HAVE to be that way
I sware if Hvitserks story doesnt end fucking bad ass i will never forgive Micheal Hirst!
White hair looked badass until ubbe faced him
Bodyguards why do you need them
I'm a cripple I need a bodyguard 🤣🤣🤣
Ivar shirtless is just😍😍😍
Ivar is so precious
Jordan’s Scottish side came out when he told the guy he wouldn’t have a tongue to tell him with . 😂 I have seen that look many a time when Scottish guys square off 🏴😝
Ivar is the leader. Ubbe is not, people recognize a leader when they see one, thats why people work as his bodyguards. Ubbe is just ivars brother.
yeah ubbe is a more well rounded leader while Ivar is strictly a good general and tactician.
Nothing about ubbe tells me he is a leader. He is a follower. He wasnt a leader in the beginning, he was just the old brother. He wasnt a leader when lagertha took over kattegat. He wasnt a leader when they great army sailed to england. Ivar always took charge, the only reason björn became the leader was because he was yelling and ivar was a cripple. But ivar was as much in charge as björn was. It was because of ivars cunning and tactics that they won, he unofficially took charge in that moment, björn knows this. Just look next episode. Ivar will declare he is the leader of the army. Ubbe wont accept it but they will follow ivar because he IS the leader. Then ubbe will flee to lagertha like the follower he is.
tysswe1 finally someone speaks the truth!
I love ivar and ubbe i dont support ivar at all cause im mentally same but i think he is an amazing character. Tbh the show writers want us to side with ubbe he is the most rational out of all the sons and seems to have more moral thought than the rest
It's Ubbe who has become King of the Danes while his little brother Ivar is in exhile.
Hvitserk and Ivar are my fav after floki
Don't fuck with Ubba lol!!!
He has crazy eyes all the time but very rarely does he have to show that crazy, this was one of those times lol
Ubbe looks just like Ragnar
Ivar is beautiful in this scene
That hammering is actually really comforting
2:30 to 2:40, summarizes very well indeed.
"I have to make you forget i am a cripple"!.....(Ivar logic)
Seems like they are discussing the wrong thing. Ivar is rigth that it does make sense for a cripple in a leadership position to have bodyguards. However why have said bodyguards not been instructed to allow Ubbe and Hvitserk to see him without question?
Sum tells me that Ivar can't trust his own brothers
What baffled me is you don't see that guy ever again until season 6 where he's labeled a traitor for serving ivar
Bruh, you see him guarding Ivar later in the season, and you see him fighting in the siege at the end of 5b. Watch it again, the white haired guy disarms Harald.
Ivar so handsome
who the hell gets tattooed in that awkward position with that dim of lighting ? seems like a bad setup
You think they had the right chair for tattoos on this time?
And as far as his awkward position, he also said he was a cripple twice. If I was a cripple, my tattoo would b as awkward as my walk.
just realizing that this bodyguard is the same one, that was banished in season 6 :o
Yea he stayed loyal to Ivar til the end
ITacHiUcHiha he would have been loyal to bjorn but he’s just a bitch 😂
In real...ivar was not a cripple. . He was called boneless because... he was so strong. Ran n fell off hills n mountains n was never hurt......he was called boneless (no broken bones)
There is a few theories
There is also a theory that his movements were so fluid in battle it was like he had no bones
^ my favourite one
This Trio was amazing Wish they kept it the whole show
Back then, in the ancient days, they put a nice tatoo on their back but the thing is they can't see it themselves
HOLY FUCK I JUST REALIZED DID THEY HAVE MIRRORS?
@@Jow2002
Yeah, they had mirrors.
Not the glass mirrors that we use today, but polished metal mirrors
@@copyorange yeah but not everyone at that time can afford it 😅
And now this guy has been branded 😂😂😂
Let’s not Forget that he killed his own brother in cold blood , they will never forgive him for that
This white ivar body guard so badass
Actually Ivar was right on this scene
Isn't that guy with the grey hairs the guy who attacked Lagerthas farm and killed Bjorns son in season 6?
Yess
Looks like a hip hop video.
Ivar sounds like a gay version of black panther without the deep african accent
Убе очень не нравиться, что Ивар лидирует во всем. Он даже готов враждовать с ним за это. А вот перед Бьерном он послушно склонился, и не рыпался
Back at the times men really needed to be strong and brave, today any coward could kill Anyone with a gun...
Yes but if I beat a man to death for pointing a gun at me I get life in prison our laws do not support men of pride it's a soft little game of victims and blame I just wish I could challenge my enemies to a duel but even that is too brutal for our pathetic society of rainbows and emotions
Is that Olaf the White?
lxchness nice guessed, however we don't know for sure
No he melted when summer came.
@@frodobaggins6684 HAHAHAHA omg
I am a crippel i need a bodyguard
King bjorn 👑
Havent even watched the show but from these clips I know most of these "guards" are thinking "this job sucks."
Ubbe is a baaaaad man
CRIIPLLEE AWWWW MMMMMMAAAAAAANNNNNNN
bye i laughed so hard at this scene for no reason
Them two would have bodied all those guards
What was Ivar having that guy do to his back.
Tattoo
so white hair followed ivar from this time, i didn't notice it
i wonder why white hair's eye looks normal at this point, but later on it's all white and dead looking
Why is it so hard for ubbe to accept ivar as the leader of the great army, its not about the age he is a better tactician and a better commander, so he must be the leader
But ivar is crazy
@@nirmordechai1011 every viking must be crazy, its a part of their wat
Because he can already see that Ivar would lead their people to destruction. Ubbe knows there is are battles that cannot be won by tactics or by having a better commander. Better off to settle on the land that they have legal right to and forge alliances with more powerful English lords. Ivar usurped Ubbe's command and got wiped out by Alfred's army effectively cutting off any chance to settle in England which was the whole point.
@@pnguyen45The Danelaw: ....yeaaaa, that didn't exactly last much my guy
0:16 He kill Lagerta and Bjorn's son
That was Ivars biggest thing, he always had to be and do better, so people would know he was Ivar the boneless! Not a cripple but a GOD. Ivar always seen his crippled self as that. But everyone else saw a fierce warrior. Son of Ragnar, and he always wanted to be better then Ragnar, Floki knew that, But I still don’t agree with the series Killing off Björn to the hand of Ivar.
they should ask the actor who play ivar to have more upper body muscle since he use them to walk around
Let us through
Ivar only want to become leader because everyone know he is best but All brothers and cant accept that cripple brother is better than them.
White hair! My man.
you guys are too in love with a psychotic crippled man. I have had anger problems and nobody ever treated ME like a king.
cuz u are a pussy
Incels and fangirls are stupid, they live in stupid reallity.
They’re just fangirls who like him cause they think he’s cute
You're a bitch to even comment this I wouldn't even make the effort to spit on you
He's far from just being a "psychotic crippled man", he's a balsy leader and is really good strategically
That's why he is so charismatic eventhough he's an evil twat
Just over there .lmao
Bro can u give me pls a link where i could watch? 😃
Máté Bálint have you found the link yet? Because I can't find it anywhere
Psychotic Kitten thx I have already seen but thx 😃🤙
Máté Bálint can you send me the link please?
watch-series.is/series/vikings
Máté Bálint thanks❤❤
What is that guy doing to Ivar ? A tattoo ?
Louis FCNLUFC yup