Aethelwulf is the character I've always felt the most sorry for. His heart seemed pure as he only wanted to please his father and do right by his people. But it was as though forces behind his back and beyond his control always worked against him, subverting his intentions. That, and the fact that Ivar flat-out kicked his ass.
He was my favorite character, honorable, brave, filled with anger but didn't take it out on those around him even when they deserved it. He was beaten in battle several times but he always went right back into the fray to fight again and lead from the front like a true king. He wasn't as clever as his dad or Ivar, but he was very loyal and even when the battle for York was lost he didn't want to leave his men, he was willing to die for his country and only left to save his sons.
He literally let the son of that another woman (forgot her name, queen of the neighbouring kingdom who claimed to have borne a son of Ragnar) escape out of his concern for him. He was just doing what he felt right by his god no matter what, lived and ended his life like that ...
Ivars warriors beat them in battle, but he was a beast at fighting. I never saw him get knocked out. Ivar was a cripple and could not whoop anyone's ass in a one on one fist fight. Also this show portrayed all Christians to be weak. They shit all over Rollos legacy when in fact he was the most successful Viking of all. Whoever made this show was probably a bunch of Jews and of norse decedent people so it doesn't surprise me. The Saxons did get beat up bad but thanks to Alfred and his brave, strong, hard fighting Christians england is still England and not dane land. Though rollos great grandson took over England , but by then the normans had adopted French ways and converted to Christianity. Rollo also was very conflicted with his faith/ religion. But the show made him seem like a traitor. Also floki hated Christians but he protected MUSLIMS. WTF!! Even let his wife take a Muslim girl to be there kid. We have jews and now heathens running Hollywood. People love to hate on Christianity. Sad...
@@siddarth3955 yeah at least he gave magnus his life. I'm sure after what ragnar said to Magnus ecbert would have most def killed him as soon as ragnar left.
MarchRosewater he is weak. He should have bring his real son and leave wessex. He should have rub it in old echbert face that now wessex is in ruin cos echbert mistake. Should have left judith and alfred with echbert to die. But he really love that woman even after he was humiliated. Should have follow ragnar footstep and take a new wife. But then again. This show reeks of feminist agenda.. the way they potrays viking woman as warrior is funny. I am from denmark. I can tell u that the shield maiden dont exist. Vikings usually doesnt bring woman. Thats why they love to rape any woman they came across cos they are horny after being without any woman in their camp. They only bring the woman when they want to build a settlement.thats it
MarchRosewater Alyss fiction dude. This show is reek of its feminist agenda.. we are talking about the vikings here. Who in the right mind would believe that there is any queen that rule the vikings.. just take a look at the scandanavian contry like norway. Denmark etc. There is no such thing as a female warrior. Woman are use to cook and breed
duke asrul I'm starting to think you're right. But maybe they were the rearguard or auxillaries? Maybe not frontline warriors but definitely raiders or marauders? They would definitely be tougher than the average civilian. Maybe not strength but sheer brutality. The human spirit does not lack for brutality. I know I'd be crushed physically by any of the female WWE wrestlers. Some women in maximum secutity prisons are there for a reason. They are definitely capable of killing. So auxillaries- yes? Camp guards and foragers or skirmishers. And you're wrong about Aethelwulf. By the time his wife was fornicating with Aethelstan Aethelwulf had been faithful to her. He wasn't perfect. But he wasn't an abuser by then. And he never needed to prove himself to her. It was an arranged marriage. One of them just gave up too quickly on it. Because they were too incompatible to begin with. Judith was forward thinking, progressive. Aethelwulf was the typical conservative husband of the era. At least as far as he is portrayed here. Do you have evidence he was the posturing he-man you say he is? He is exactly neutral. Not good not bad. Better as a friend or ally. Hideously bad as a husband for Judith. Stop calling one half of a couple names. Judith was hardly a blameless lamb. She was cheating in the security that Aethelwulf bought for them on the front lines. Who's to say THAT was't the more desicable act? Stop comparing their crimes within the marriage. Both were to blame. And they were singularly unsuited for each other. Aethelwulf might well have wanted a good loyal and loving wife like Torvi. Just like Judith wanted an Aethelstan or Ecgbert.
I don't think he loved Judith but he was a man of duty so he stuck it out because he made a vow before God. Same with Alfred who he most Likely did love even though he knows he wasn't his biological son, because he tried to be honorable and obey his father even if his father was a dick.
It better to be feared than loved, Athelwulf should just learned to respect his father if respect was due. He wanted his father to be loved and feared, but as Machiavelli said centuries later you can't be both. Athelwulf is not being pathetic here, he was just asking what was reasonable. A great scene.
Actually he was a bad king , i mean he knew that by destroying settlement he is starting a war and he still did it ,he took Ragnar for granted ,and then he and his son aethelwolf paid huge price..but Alfred is way better king than ecbert he understands both the people Vikings and english people like his Father did
@@061shubham7 Vikings would have continued their raids irregardless of whether or not he killed the settlers or killed Ivar. You could probably make the argument that every single decision King Ecbert made in this series was the correct strategic decision.
David Lee You do realize that Machiavelli was being sarcastic right? His literary work was mostly comprised of satires and pro republican views. He spent years as a member of the Florentine republic after the ruling Medici family was driven out. When they came back and retook the city state, Machiavelli was tortured for treason and spent the rest of his life in exile. The book wasn’t meant to be a guide on how you needed to live life.
*Watching Ragnar die, Ecbert seen himself in that cage & slowly realized that; not only had Ragnar outsmarted him, but he was also able to choose the time & place of his own death w/o committing suicide. Which ironically, led directly to Ecbert committing suicide & jeopardizing his own place in heaven.* By the time he realized that Ragnar was making a martyr of himself in order to coax his sons into conquering England - it was too late.
Ecbert realised it far earlier my friend. We can see this in scene where Ragnar is explaining to Ecbert that his sons won't take avenge on Ecbert, but on Aella. Ecbert realised how stupidly it sounds and he was sure that Ragnar's sons won't be so stupid to believe his explanation but yeah, it was far too late to turn it off. We can see (we never saw Ecbert acting as this before) truly terified Ecbert as he became speechless and his hands were shaking while in praying form. Ragnar just explained to him in that scene that he is fucked up and can't do NOTHING about it. Plus, that sentence : "Don't be afraid" :)
@@boky7731 He knew that sons of Ragnar are not stupid (because of their father). If Ragnar and Ivar would not return to the viking's society, there would be rumours for sure that they sailed to England, and didn't return. What do you think what Bjorn, Ubbe, Hvitserk etc would think about that Ivar and Ragnar didn't return from England? Ofcourse making blood eagle from Ecbert :D But Ecbert was clever (to be honest he was desperated) and realised that he is fucked up no matter what would he do. BUT his desperation made him believe that sparing Ivar will make Ivar tell his brothers that he did nothing wrong. He believed that brothers of Ragnar will take pity on him for not killing Ivar. Ofcourse Ecbert didn't know what Ragnar said to Ivar before dying. #allplanned
@@DajKamienia1 actually ecbert and aethelwolf had this coming the moment they destroy the settlement..there were no any reason to destroy but they did foolishly because of them Ragnar felt gulit ,he wanted to do suicide by hanging himself but then he had the plan to destroy whole England by going there die to teach the final lesson to ecbert and his son ....king ecbert desevr every bit of it
Hmm....with the exception of: Ivar Sigurd Hvitserk Alfred Lagertha (accent) Ubbe (somtimes) Bjorn (later seasons) So actually, anything after season 3 started to go downhill
Don't say that. One playthrough showed my heir sucked at everything and since thr succession primogeniture meaning the eldest child inherits. I still loved him. (Who am i kidding.I simply couldn't imprison or assasinate him)
@@anid6100 a fool or ignored cuz he knew he could never win his fathers love? Did everything his king command and his father couldn’t even utter 8 words his son wants to hear
Æthelwulf is honestly my favourite character. He tries to do everything right. He tries to do right by his father, by the ways of his people, by his God and acts upon what he thinks is right. He grew up without a mother, he was manipulated and shamed by both his father and wife, yet still tried to be the best man he could be. Yet, in the end, despite being able to survive all the mental torture and bloody battles in his life, he dies to a weak bee sting.
King Ecbert finally realized how much damage he did to his sons psyche and how well he had broken him. He new his son would not live long after him. What an evil complicated and dynamic character.
Right? The entire conversation is just filled with moments of Ecbert's continued blatant disrespect and negligence for his lifetime of crimes towards his son: 'I see it very clearly now. Ragnar helped me to see it. So did Athelstan' The worst one might be 'He was the holiest man I ever knew.' in the face of the extremely devoted Christian, Aethelwulf, who lives for his country and his God.
I still believe, to this day, that just like FLoki killed Aethelstan out of jealousy, Ecbert destroyed that settlement out of jealousy too, that Aethelstan went with Ragnar instead of staying with him. If Aethelstan decided to stay with Ecbert, the settlement would've probably survived, because even if Ecbert tought of betraying the Vikigns, Aethelstan would've persuaded him to mantain his word.
No, Ecbert didn't destroy the settlement for jelaousy, but because they were pagans on his lands and for ambition (see the face he made when he saw the norse putting his idol of their gods while he and Athelstan prayed for the settlement; that had me think: "yep, this colony isn't going to survive that much"). Maybe Aethelwulf did it for jelaousy and recentement against the people he thinks his father admire more than him, and because at his eyes they were pagans preying on his lands at the cost of his people's life.
If he was a narcissist (and I believe he was), in truth he did not love anyone, not even Athelstan, Ragnar or Judith. Not much of a consolation for Aethelwulf though.
My conversation with my grandfather, after I got back from Afghan He asked me if I was ok as he could see the ptsd he said I know that look my father had that same look in his eyes after. ww2 I too after Vietnam my grandfather served Vietnam he said I wasn’t good to your mother after the war I wasn’t good to my wife I understand that you are going through things. I snapped and said you were a drunk that bashed his family abandon my mother to the streets at 14 she ran away from home in 72 you did the most part to yourself and may act like you give a shit if you can get something out of me or Weasle your way back into our lives we ld man my ptsd is my own to deal with I’m not like you I didn’t take pleasure in any of the shit I’ve done he looked at me and said you are more me then what you think what did those poor men do to you when you snapped at them from your ptsd got yourself locked up for hurting them I said if you want to call me snapping at a couple of men who slapped a woman I Front of me bad then yes I fucking snapped you want to know why her screams reminded me of a house that was on fire and a woman screaming inside my men holding me down to the ground to stop me from running in their. As the house was engulfed by flames.
I cried so hard 😭 ... Aethalwolf is so faithful to his father and did much fr his family and kingdon .. bt no one understands him... He really deserves to be loved ❤️
well she placed her bets and he did conspire to kill him ...and with that wife of his it wouldn't have been long before he thought of over throwing him again "
Aethelwulf is probably one of the most honorable men in this entire show. People can disrespect a good and honorable man all they want, but they know deep down he is more of a man than they are, and more of a man than his wife deserves. They all know it, and that arguably makes their disrespect more of a "I wish I was like you but I'm mad that I'm not" rather than "I'm dominant over you" disrespect. He is the most dominant because he has honor and morality and actually tries to maintain that integrity.
Prefacing that I am not trying to belittle rape victims (looking at you SJW's that take things out of context), but you guys are forgetting this is a TV show. While it's based on a historical setting, it is still highly dramatized for entertainment. The shit Athelwulf, the character, went through, would psychologically damage a normal person. Was he raped by his father? No, but to say he didn't have it that bad doesn't make what he went through any less tragic. Honestly, the kingdom is lucky that once he had the crown he didn't go all Nero on his own people. Look at Ivar, he's just about there. He'll kill anybody he doesn't like, Viking, or Saxon, doesn't matter, and a lot of that psychological damage was due to how people looked down on him growing up, and his own viewpoint on life. I don't recall a scene where he was raped or abused by Ragnar (in fact quite the opposite, contrary to custom he spared his malformed son), though his inability to perform in bed with a woman could amount to a measure of sexual humiliation that helped further break him. You don't have to have been physically assaulted to be damaged.
Yes, he is. He just is not as interesting or open-minded as other characters, like Ecbert, Ragnar, Athelstan. Aethelwulf is the black and white hero of media in the past. But in this era, we are given more complex characters. Aethwelwulf is a good man, always tried to do the right thing, ultimately staying stagnant.
Man, Judith is just appalling lmao. Season 4 Judith onwards is the worst character in the show for me. She cheats on Aethelwulf twice, once with his father, the other with a priest who the first time she meets she French kisses his crucified hand right in front of Aethelwulf. She insults Aethelwulf when he finally gives in after having resisted Kwenthirith's seduction once, this being despite having already endured the double cheat by Judith, the first of which she all but pursued aggressively in trying to cheat with Athelstan, going so far as to beg him to allow her to confess to him, only stopping at the last moment despite entering the bathhouse with him. She repeatedly condescends this man, sternly telling him off like a mother would despite having deliberately crossed his path and only just escaped his rightful vengeance, despite having engaged in a second affair with his own father and yet she acts like she has the moral high ground on Aethelwulf, for anything he says or does? The woman absolutely snipes at the increasingly exhausted Aethelwulf, who is utterly spent after years of being in the company of this pair, to the point where she even ignores the absolute facts Aethelwulf is presenting in that Ecbert was a blind fool and an idiot in underestimating Ragnar's vengeance, warning Aethelwulf 'don't talk to your father like that', like she has any authority because she's Ecbert's mistress? Vile character, truly makes your skin crawl with her hypocrisy and condescension.
Judith is the worst representation of womanhood I have ever seen on screen. Such a bad bad woman, I hate the fact they tried to make her look worthy in any form.
@@OO-jd4ycSame can be said about Lagertha, she’s a power hungry hypocrite like how at the beginning of the show she forces a man to take care of another man’s child because his name was “Rig” so she believed the gods had a hand in his wife cheating, but when the gods had a hand in making Ragnar cheat on her and fathering many sons she does a 180 and accuses Aslaug of witchcraft 😂 Not to mention she decides to get revenge YEARS later after playing nice and even offering womanly advice to her for all that time before and basically causes the rift between Ragnars sons that lasted the entire show and ended with 3 of the sons dead including her own and the remaining 2 on opposite sides of the world and not on speaking terms
Aethulwulf just got the wrong end of the deal constantly. He was a good dude. A brave warrior who fought for his God, father, family and country. And he dealt with every injustice and kept doing his best. He was the most honorable character in the show in my opinion.
Idk if divorce for a royal guy was really an option back then. Ecbert wanted him married to Judith for the alliance with North Umbria.( I think that was king Ella's kingdom) he just kept getting screwed over and humiliated constantly. Cucked by his own dad lol
@@joshuajackson7596 Lets be Honest do you still consider woman your wife if she has been unfaithful even if you are forced to be married her. So no point to feel anexius, just find new wife who you respect and care and be done with it. Even if you need to sleep with that unfaithful woman to get heir to realm it dosent mean you need to have feeling or even care what she does. Royalitys lives wasent ever easy they didnt marrie for love, they coulnt do what they wanted they had duty and was up to them to find little enjoyment of life as they went on.
Ecbert was a great and clever king. However, releasing Ivar was a mistake that can't be denied. Killing him might have caused the heaven army never to attack.
Not really, the army would arrive no matter what. He couldn’t release Ragnar and Ivan being there was to make sure the plan worked perfectly. He was fucked no matter what he did and Ecbert new it well enough
Aethelwulf deserved better. He gave his life to his father and kingdom. And in return he gets a narcissistic father and an unloving wife who cheats on him. He even raised Alfred like his own son. Also the ending almost gets me in tears. He asks his own father if he loves him and his father doesn’t even answer
This might be one of my favorite scenes in all of TV. Moe dunford knocks it out of the park here. A son, unloved and damaged by his father, a man of god tortured by demons of his fathers creation, finally confronting years of suffering and the man who caused it. I’d really like to see him in some more high quality productions that haven’t been tainted by the mindvirus of American Hollywood, cause that guy can act.
In a show where people are beheaded, eviscerated, maimed and tortured in HORRIBLE ways, somehow this is one of the hardest scenes for me to watch. I feel so bad for Aethelwulf here.
I think he did love him, but his problem was that he finally felt guilty and saw in himself that his son did not deserve Ecberth to tell him such thing. He knew that telling him that he loves wouldn't be as honest as he deserves. He liked his son but felt brutally honest about not valueing him as a son but rather as a tool, and he did feel sorry about it.
My words here are not meant to be a replacement, they are said to remind all of us we are not alone. To all of us who have never heard our fathers tell us they love us, I love you. And to all those who have lived without those words being confirmed from our fathers, I am proud of all of you for being here with me.
He literally helped butcher women and children as they screamed. All because they didn’t worship his god. Nobody in this show counts as a decent person. Not a single one.
I thought game of thrones was a good show,then I was told to watch vikings.i must say this show was awesome plus these people existed and shaped certain aspects of our culture.fantastic story telling and acting.thanks to all for this show.
I’m very late I know but almost nothing about this show is grounded in reality it’s VERY loosely based on real history, basically just taking real people that existed and mashing them together in one story/timeline, especially considering how most of them didn’t even exist at the same time as each other, and then using a few real life events as well. And plus with all the religious symbolism and encounters it basically makes this show just as much fantasy as game of thrones
I always enjoyed Linus Roache acting prior to Vikings but DAMN if this isnt one of his best roles/performances while on this show. At different points you loved, hated, admired and pitied his character. Absolutely brilliant!!!
Thanks for these clips, we appreciate your efforts, Valhalla sends Love and Happiness, our Victory is Secure and Honest. Valor is Victorious not Malicious, Wars are fought and won, not forgotten, that is why our Heraldry and Legacy abound, we are not confounded we are enlightened.
His father didn't love him he made him to adopt a bastard son he went with his wife yet he respected him tell me what holds Aethelwulf not to kill here his father his wife and her bastard he was truly a good and honorable man.
To all the noble men and honourable men like Aethelwulf, may God enter them into the highest place of heaven and give them a status and gift everyone should be envious of. They deserve it. Ameen. If you don't believe in religion, then at least look at the gesture of this prayer. It's just recognition of those men, even in today's age who exist, but we don't know their names.
@@jollyquinn430 Considering that he was saying it under the context that he was never gonna see Aethelwulf or his family again because he was choosing to stay behind and face Ragnars sons wrath, and the fact that he’s seen weeping after they leave makes me think he was being honest. It was all right before he died anyways so idk why he would lie or feel the need to somehow manipulate Aethelwulf. The point is he felt really sorry for him and had already cut ties with Judith after this talk they had in the video
WOAHHHHH THATS A COLD NIGGA RIGHT THERE !! Didn’t even say it. Got damn they don’t make shows with writing like that no more, shoutout to the brilliant acting too!
Aethelwulf was weak. Dutiful and loyal to a fault, so much so that he'd rather watch his own wife be with his own father and raise her bastard child than do anything else. Ragnar would've never stood by and watched that, and would've actively plotted to screw the guy screwing his wife in the most shameful manner possible. This scene shows the sad tragedy that even though all this is true, Aethelwulf still somehow needed his father's approval, instead of finding his own way and charting his own path.
Aethelwulf is heir of the throne he has duty to his people a kingdom and leaders and nobility often need to sacrifice everything for the realm. They can marry who they love but they marry who is most useful to throne and dynasty.
King Ecbert‘s actions reflect a maxim as formulated by King Philip in the series „Knightfall“, namely ==> „You must always be the wolf, never the sheep. This world only responds to the closed fist, not the open hand.“ - In the 21st century Europe is a sheep, the wolves are aware of that and coming for us all.
nearly every character and every scene in this show is paralleled to some facet. I see now that aethelwulf is paralleled to a great degree with floki. aethelwulf is the straight forward traditional english voice of reason, as floki is the voice of reason from the gods point of view. both are used by their leaders, both are jealous of athelstan. ragnar, as ecbert points out in this scene, does however legitimately love floki, his sons, lagertha, rollo etc... ragnar ruled with his heart, ecbert with his mind (despite ragnars warning to bjorn not to rule with his heart)
Heathen, a reference to those people who do not pray or have religions that require being in a church, or those who pray in the heather, or outside, Pagans.
I hated Aethelwulf when he was introduced, but he becomes a straight badass. Unlike Ecbert Aethelwulf knew that sure, god has a presence but humans can make their own stupid choices, and blaming your stupidity on god isn’t an excuse. Plus he got done dirty as hell by both his wife and father. He deserved better. Great character. I also sorta like how he died. I know it was extremely anti climactic but that’s how shit was back then. It was realistic. They didn’t have remedies for the simplest of things, so people would die from common shit like the flu.
It's a strange thing to live for your parents dream, they never really know you so how can they love you? Aethulwulf was a dutiful son, a good son but he was never his own man. That is why his father loved Ragnar and Athelstan more. They showed him something new, they wouldn't do as they were told. If we are too obedient people will make tools of us, it's human nature.
Imagine this for not but 40 years you keep trying to impress your father again and again to earn his affection and love but you have no clue if he actually loves you poor aethelwulf
Why they had to cut most of this scene out, this scene is way more impactful than the cut version. Especially for prince aethelwulf and how ecbert used him
That was such a powerful scene, how come did they delete it ?! I can't get what Ecbert says at 3:12 after "we learn from others", what does he say ? Btw is there somewhere I can watch the complete episodes including all these extended scenes ? I know the american version has to be 40 minutes long, but in other countries episodes may be a few minutes longer.
What we learn from others must chime with something inside oneself. There must have always been something cold, calculated and perverted about me. I see it very clearly now. Ragnar helped me to see it. So did Athelstan.
Like many of the comments praising this series. It's fantastic, the acting is amazing. I watched this over and over, and I actually felt so sad when the great ragnar was killed. Yes the history behind it is spectacular also, 🙌. Just can't say enough, AMAZING SERIES. ps. If you like this watch THE LAST KINGDOM.. see the viking saga continues from a different period of time . Be safe everyone. 🙏. J
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Aethelwulf is the character I've always felt the most sorry for. His heart seemed pure as he only wanted to please his father and do right by his people. But it was as though forces behind his back and beyond his control always worked against him, subverting his intentions. That, and the fact that Ivar flat-out kicked his ass.
He was my favorite character, honorable, brave, filled with anger but didn't take it out on those around him even when they deserved it. He was beaten in battle several times but he always went right back into the fray to fight again and lead from the front like a true king. He wasn't as clever as his dad or Ivar, but he was very loyal and even when the battle for York was lost he didn't want to leave his men, he was willing to die for his country and only left to save his sons.
The actor done an awesome job playing him aswell.
He literally let the son of that another woman (forgot her name, queen of the neighbouring kingdom who claimed to have borne a son of Ragnar) escape out of his concern for him. He was just doing what he felt right by his god no matter what, lived and ended his life like that ...
Ivars warriors beat them in battle, but he was a beast at fighting. I never saw him get knocked out. Ivar was a cripple and could not whoop anyone's ass in a one on one fist fight. Also this show portrayed all Christians to be weak. They shit all over Rollos legacy when in fact he was the most successful Viking of all. Whoever made this show was probably a bunch of Jews and of norse decedent people so it doesn't surprise me. The Saxons did get beat up bad but thanks to Alfred and his brave, strong, hard fighting Christians england is still England and not dane land. Though rollos great grandson took over England , but by then the normans had adopted French ways and converted to Christianity. Rollo also was very conflicted with his faith/ religion. But the show made him seem like a traitor. Also floki hated Christians but he protected MUSLIMS. WTF!! Even let his wife take a Muslim girl to be there kid. We have jews and now heathens running Hollywood. People love to hate on Christianity. Sad...
@@siddarth3955 yeah at least he gave magnus his life. I'm sure after what ragnar said to Magnus ecbert would have most def killed him as soon as ragnar left.
I really like Aethelwulf. His father and wife used, embarrassed and humiliated him for many years. He had to learn to live with it.
MarchRosewater he is weak. He should have bring his real son and leave wessex. He should have rub it in old echbert face that now wessex is in ruin cos echbert mistake. Should have left judith and alfred with echbert to die. But he really love that woman even after he was humiliated. Should have follow ragnar footstep and take a new wife. But then again. This show reeks of feminist agenda.. the way they potrays viking woman as warrior is funny. I am from denmark. I can tell u that the shield maiden dont exist. Vikings usually doesnt bring woman. Thats why they love to rape any woman they came across cos they are horny after being without any woman in their camp. They only bring the woman when they want to build a settlement.thats it
MarchRosewater Alyss fiction dude. This show is reek of its feminist agenda.. we are talking about the vikings here. Who in the right mind would believe that there is any queen that rule the vikings.. just take a look at the scandanavian contry like norway. Denmark etc. There is no such thing as a female warrior. Woman are use to cook and breed
MarchRosewater Alyss I will definitely ecbert that order the torture and aethelwulf could not say no to the king
duke asrul I'm starting to think you're right. But maybe they were the rearguard or auxillaries? Maybe not frontline warriors but definitely raiders or marauders? They would definitely be tougher than the average civilian. Maybe not strength but sheer brutality. The human spirit does not lack for brutality. I know I'd be crushed physically by any of the female WWE wrestlers. Some women in maximum secutity prisons are there for a reason. They are definitely capable of killing. So auxillaries- yes? Camp guards and foragers or skirmishers. And you're wrong about Aethelwulf. By the time his wife was fornicating with Aethelstan Aethelwulf had been faithful to her. He wasn't perfect. But he wasn't an abuser by then. And he never needed to prove himself to her. It was an arranged marriage. One of them just gave up too quickly on it. Because they were too incompatible to begin with. Judith was forward thinking, progressive. Aethelwulf was the typical conservative husband of the era. At least as far as he is portrayed here. Do you have evidence he was the posturing he-man you say he is? He is exactly neutral. Not good not bad. Better as a friend or ally. Hideously bad as a husband for Judith. Stop calling one half of a couple names. Judith was hardly a blameless lamb. She was cheating in the security that Aethelwulf bought for them on the front lines. Who's to say THAT was't the more desicable act? Stop comparing their crimes within the marriage. Both were to blame. And they were singularly unsuited for each other. Aethelwulf might well have wanted a good loyal and loving wife like Torvi. Just like Judith wanted an Aethelstan or Ecgbert.
I don't think he loved Judith but he was a man of duty so he stuck it out because he made a vow before God. Same with Alfred who he most Likely did love even though he knows he wasn't his biological son, because he tried to be honorable and obey his father even if his father was a dick.
King Ecbert. A brilliant King but a terrible father
It better to be feared than loved, Athelwulf should just learned to respect his father if respect was due. He wanted his father to be loved and feared, but as Machiavelli said centuries later you can't be both. Athelwulf is not being pathetic here, he was just asking what was reasonable. A great scene.
Actually he was a bad king , i mean he knew that by destroying settlement he is starting a war and he still did it ,he took Ragnar for granted ,and then he and his son aethelwolf paid huge price..but Alfred is way better king than ecbert he understands both the people Vikings and english people like his Father did
@@061shubham7 Vikings would have continued their raids irregardless of whether or not he killed the settlers or killed Ivar. You could probably make the argument that every single decision King Ecbert made in this series was the correct strategic decision.
Coming from an person that killed his son to get to their daughter lol
David Lee You do realize that Machiavelli was being sarcastic right? His literary work was mostly comprised of satires and pro republican views. He spent years as a member of the Florentine republic after the ruling Medici family was driven out. When they came back and retook the city state, Machiavelli was tortured for treason and spent the rest of his life in exile. The book wasn’t meant to be a guide on how you needed to live life.
*Watching Ragnar die, Ecbert seen himself in that cage & slowly realized that; not only had Ragnar outsmarted him, but he was also able to choose the time & place of his own death w/o committing suicide. Which ironically, led directly to Ecbert committing suicide & jeopardizing his own place in heaven.*
By the time he realized that Ragnar was making a martyr of himself in order to coax his sons into conquering England - it was too late.
Yeah have to agree ecbert realised that ragnar had outsmarted him and basically he was fucked
Ecbert realised it far earlier my friend. We can see this in scene where Ragnar is explaining to Ecbert that his sons won't take avenge on Ecbert, but on Aella. Ecbert realised how stupidly it sounds and he was sure that Ragnar's sons won't be so stupid to believe his explanation but yeah, it was far too late to turn it off. We can see (we never saw Ecbert acting as this before) truly terified Ecbert as he became speechless and his hands were shaking while in praying form. Ragnar just explained to him in that scene that he is fucked up and can't do NOTHING about it. Plus, that sentence : "Don't be afraid" :)
@@DajKamienia1 Yea but what if he had just killed Ivar?
@@boky7731 He knew that sons of Ragnar are not stupid (because of their father). If Ragnar and Ivar would not return to the viking's society, there would be rumours for sure that they sailed to England, and didn't return. What do you think what Bjorn, Ubbe, Hvitserk etc would think about that Ivar and Ragnar didn't return from England? Ofcourse making blood eagle from Ecbert :D But Ecbert was clever (to be honest he was desperated) and realised that he is fucked up no matter what would he do. BUT his desperation made him believe that sparing Ivar will make Ivar tell his brothers that he did nothing wrong. He believed that brothers of Ragnar will take pity on him for not killing Ivar. Ofcourse Ecbert didn't know what Ragnar said to Ivar before dying. #allplanned
@@DajKamienia1 actually ecbert and aethelwolf had this coming the moment they destroy the settlement..there were no any reason to destroy but they did foolishly because of them Ragnar felt gulit ,he wanted to do suicide by hanging himself but then he had the plan to destroy whole England by going there die to teach the final lesson to ecbert and his son ....king ecbert desevr every bit of it
The acting is superb in this show.
David Lynch was*
Hmm....with the exception of:
Ivar
Sigurd
Hvitserk
Alfred
Lagertha (accent)
Ubbe (somtimes)
Bjorn (later seasons)
So actually, anything after season 3 started to go downhill
@@kevj4584 Alex Hogg do a great job with Ivar
@@facundoparada8127 disagree.
His performance is so over the top, unbelievable and cheesy.
@@kevj4584 disagree x2. His character is the most interesting after Ragnar dies and has a great charisma
King Ecbert is your typical ck2 player.
no no no i always love my sons even if they are shit when my son is cucked i burn his wife on a stake i am good ruler ;)
Too fucking accurate.
Tomasz Nowak someone kills my sons I duel them or assasinatr them. Normally it’s my friends online.
The entire show feels like ck2...
Don't say that.
One playthrough showed my heir sucked at everything and since thr succession primogeniture meaning the eldest child inherits.
I still loved him.
(Who am i kidding.I simply couldn't imprison or assasinate him)
This was great acting by both of them. This was among the best dialogue in the whole series.
The last season had the worst dialogue ever. Its almost like the creator of the show got brain damage half way into the seasons.
@@shenmue5507 Yeah the last seasons were mostly garbage
@@shenmue5507a lot of it is due to the writers fulfilling fan theories.
Aethelwulf was my favorite character. He honored his father, but was never his fool.
He was definitely his fool
He was his slave honestly
i love him much
@@anid6100 a fool or ignored cuz he knew he could never win his fathers love? Did everything his king command and his father couldn’t even utter 8 words his son wants to hear
Did you ever watch vikings at all?
What I love about this show is that no character is perfect. Each one of them has flaws, but the best among them, I think, was Aethelwulf.
Omar The wasp no ragnar is perfect
@@tuterangianderson4085
Betraying Lagertha was perfect?
Sill yes bro yes
athelwulf was the most honorable of the English and ubbe was the most honorable of the vikings
Aethelwulf's only fault was being too loyal.
Æthelwulf is honestly my favourite character. He tries to do everything right. He tries to do right by his father, by the ways of his people, by his God and acts upon what he thinks is right. He grew up without a mother, he was manipulated and shamed by both his father and wife, yet still tried to be the best man he could be. Yet, in the end, despite being able to survive all the mental torture and bloody battles in his life, he dies to a weak bee sting.
Judith getting her ear cut off was so satisfying
Life's not fair.
Vikings really showed that
King Ecbert finally realized how much damage he did to his sons psyche and how well he had broken him. He new his son would not live long after him. What an evil complicated and dynamic character.
His son lived almost 20 years after his father death and his death was because his bad luck.
ramzi k01 Aethelred was about 13-14 when Ecbert died and then died at 22-23, shortly after Aethelwulf.
@@devisdaldon3580 Ecbert died at the year 839 and aethelwulf died at 858 so it's almost 20 years bro.
Things are different between show and history
At 2:36 I love the look on Aethulwulf, "god dad, can you not talk about him for once? We're talking about us."
Right? The entire conversation is just filled with moments of Ecbert's continued blatant disrespect and negligence for his lifetime of crimes towards his son: 'I see it very clearly now. Ragnar helped me to see it. So did Athelstan'
The worst one might be 'He was the holiest man I ever knew.' in the face of the extremely devoted Christian, Aethelwulf, who lives for his country and his God.
I still believe, to this day, that just like FLoki killed Aethelstan out of jealousy, Ecbert destroyed that settlement out of jealousy too, that Aethelstan went with Ragnar instead of staying with him.
If Aethelstan decided to stay with Ecbert, the settlement would've probably survived, because even if Ecbert tought of betraying the Vikigns, Aethelstan would've persuaded him to mantain his word.
his word to who exactly?
No, Ecbert didn't destroy the settlement for jelaousy, but because they were pagans on his lands and for ambition (see the face he made when he saw the norse putting his idol of their gods while he and Athelstan prayed for the settlement; that had me think: "yep, this colony isn't going to survive that much").
Maybe Aethelwulf did it for jelaousy and recentement against the people he thinks his father admire more than him, and because at his eyes they were pagans preying on his lands at the cost of his people's life.
This scene resonates with any son who had a narcissist father.
And the sad truth about reality is that there are many many sons in the world that had narcissistic/unloving fathers
If he was a narcissist (and I believe he was), in truth he did not love anyone, not even Athelstan, Ragnar or Judith. Not much of a consolation for Aethelwulf though.
O/
My conversation with my grandfather, after I got back from Afghan He asked me if I was ok as he could see the ptsd he said I know that look my father had that same look in his eyes after. ww2 I too after Vietnam my grandfather served Vietnam he said I wasn’t good to your mother after the war I wasn’t good to my wife I understand that you are going through things. I snapped and said you were a drunk that bashed his family abandon my mother to the streets at 14 she ran away from home in 72 you did the most part to yourself and may act like you give a shit if you can get something out of me or Weasle your way back into our lives we ld man my ptsd is my own to deal with I’m not like you I didn’t take pleasure in any of the shit I’ve done he looked at me and said you are more me then what you think what did those poor men do to you when you snapped at them from your ptsd got yourself locked up for hurting them I said if you want to call me snapping at a couple of men who slapped a woman I
Front of me bad then yes I fucking snapped you want to know why her screams reminded me of a house that was on fire and a woman screaming inside my men holding me down to the ground to stop me from running in their. As the house was engulfed by flames.
Having a narcissistic mother is sad, too, belive me😢
I cried so hard 😭 ... Aethalwolf is so faithful to his father and did much fr his family and kingdon .. bt no one understands him... He really deserves to be loved ❤️
Only Kentrit do it and she was killed by Judith. That poor man...
I recommend you to watch 'King Aethelwulf - Son of God' by Zurik23M
Really, really good tribute.
@@kirus5727 ok ,, I will ,, thank u
...he literally slaughtered unarmed women and children.
This scene deserved an Emmy...Pure acting
“We are fated to die on a certain day, but it is up to us on what we want to do before that day” - Ragnar Lothbrok
5:58 such a powerful moment when Athelwulf hears his father admit that he had used him all his life
What kind of father are you?
Years later
What kind of mother are you?
well she placed her bets and he did conspire to kill him ...and with that wife of his it wouldn't have been long before he thought of over throwing him again "
@@jg14gerhard_bar could u blame him. The throne was his by right
@@TheChosen2030 its the 800s not 1800s, hell following history he made alfred king > his own son, not exactly a right to be king it was an election
@@jg14gerhard_bar well this show is not following real history is it. In the show athelred is the rightful king. Not that bastard born of adultery.
I was just thinking this 😂😂
Aethelwulf is probably one of the most honorable men in this entire show. People can disrespect a good and honorable man all they want, but they know deep down he is more of a man than they are, and more of a man than his wife deserves. They all know it, and that arguably makes their disrespect more of a "I wish I was like you but I'm mad that I'm not" rather than "I'm dominant over you" disrespect.
He is the most dominant because he has honor and morality and actually tries to maintain that integrity.
I guess people forget he slaughtered women and children at that settlement. He should’ve had his lungs ripped out for that.
@@anthonyw9454like the vikings did to his people before that?
We are born alone, we die alone
One of the finest scenes of the series
We aren't born alone though. Lol
well, we dont really know
"You saaaw, what you wanted to seeee." --- As do nearly countless other people. Me included :-)
What a terrible father. It doesn't get any lower than that
Not true... It can get much more lower than that belive me...
Father sexually abusing the son, Abusive alcoholic father, many things are lower than this although it doesn't reduce the problems faced by Aethelwulf
Prefacing that I am not trying to belittle rape victims (looking at you SJW's that take things out of context), but you guys are forgetting this is a TV show. While it's based on a historical setting, it is still highly dramatized for entertainment. The shit Athelwulf, the character, went through, would psychologically damage a normal person. Was he raped by his father? No, but to say he didn't have it that bad doesn't make what he went through any less tragic. Honestly, the kingdom is lucky that once he had the crown he didn't go all Nero on his own people. Look at Ivar, he's just about there. He'll kill anybody he doesn't like, Viking, or Saxon, doesn't matter, and a lot of that psychological damage was due to how people looked down on him growing up, and his own viewpoint on life. I don't recall a scene where he was raped or abused by Ragnar (in fact quite the opposite, contrary to custom he spared his malformed son), though his inability to perform in bed with a woman could amount to a measure of sexual humiliation that helped further break him. You don't have to have been physically assaulted to be damaged.
But he is somewhat a competent king. Sometime there is no room for both.
Aethelwulf is actually a nice guy, I felt really sad for him.
Yes, he is. He just is not as interesting or open-minded as other characters, like Ecbert, Ragnar, Athelstan. Aethelwulf is the black and white hero of media in the past. But in this era, we are given more complex characters. Aethwelwulf is a good man, always tried to do the right thing, ultimately staying stagnant.
Nah he was a piece of shit, him killing the nord people in England threw a whole bunch of shit into the fan 🤣
Phenomenal acting! They sound like a father & son having their last conversation, after a lifetime of conflict
Man, Judith is just appalling lmao. Season 4 Judith onwards is the worst character in the show for me. She cheats on Aethelwulf twice, once with his father, the other with a priest who the first time she meets she French kisses his crucified hand right in front of Aethelwulf. She insults Aethelwulf when he finally gives in after having resisted Kwenthirith's seduction once, this being despite having already endured the double cheat by Judith, the first of which she all but pursued aggressively in trying to cheat with Athelstan, going so far as to beg him to allow her to confess to him, only stopping at the last moment despite entering the bathhouse with him. She repeatedly condescends this man, sternly telling him off like a mother would despite having deliberately crossed his path and only just escaped his rightful vengeance, despite having engaged in a second affair with his own father and yet she acts like she has the moral high ground on Aethelwulf, for anything he says or does? The woman absolutely snipes at the increasingly exhausted Aethelwulf, who is utterly spent after years of being in the company of this pair, to the point where she even ignores the absolute facts Aethelwulf is presenting in that Ecbert was a blind fool and an idiot in underestimating Ragnar's vengeance, warning Aethelwulf 'don't talk to your father like that', like she has any authority because she's Ecbert's mistress? Vile character, truly makes your skin crawl with her hypocrisy and condescension.
Judith is the worst representation of womanhood I have ever seen on screen. Such a bad bad woman, I hate the fact they tried to make her look worthy in any form.
@@OO-jd4ycSame can be said about Lagertha, she’s a power hungry hypocrite like how at the beginning of the show she forces a man to take care of another man’s child because his name was “Rig” so she believed the gods had a hand in his wife cheating, but when the gods had a hand in making Ragnar cheat on her and fathering many sons she does a 180 and accuses Aslaug of witchcraft 😂 Not to mention she decides to get revenge YEARS later after playing nice and even offering womanly advice to her for all that time before and basically causes the rift between Ragnars sons that lasted the entire show and ended with 3 of the sons dead including her own and the remaining 2 on opposite sides of the world and not on speaking terms
What an incredible circle jerk of venom we have here.
@@ethanfuller1509 shut up redditor
Aethulwulf just got the wrong end of the deal constantly. He was a good dude. A brave warrior who fought for his God, father, family and country. And he dealt with every injustice and kept doing his best. He was the most honorable character in the show in my opinion.
He was honorable i agree, but he could have divorced or if not established new side family.
Idk if divorce for a royal guy was really an option back then. Ecbert wanted him married to Judith for the alliance with North Umbria.( I think that was king Ella's kingdom) he just kept getting screwed over and humiliated constantly. Cucked by his own dad lol
@@joshuajackson7596 Lets be Honest do you still consider woman your wife if she has been unfaithful even if you are forced to be married her. So no point to feel anexius, just find new wife who you respect and care and be done with it. Even if you need to sleep with that unfaithful woman to get heir to realm it dosent mean you need to have feeling or even care what she does. Royalitys lives wasent ever easy they didnt marrie for love, they coulnt do what they wanted they had duty and was up to them to find little enjoyment of life as they went on.
Aethelwulf is an amazing character, pure, strong, intelligent. I felt always sorry for him.
Ecbert was a great and clever king. However, releasing Ivar was a mistake that can't be denied. Killing him might have caused the heaven army never to attack.
Not really, the army would arrive no matter what. He couldn’t release Ragnar and Ivan being there was to make sure the plan worked perfectly. He was fucked no matter what he did and Ecbert new it well enough
the heaven army XDD
@@shinybaldboy4384 Shut up you bald fuck. No one criticizes me. :)
But he wanted it to attack - Aelle.
This was the peak of this show...it should've ended shortly after this.
This scene makes perfect sense
I love how awhleolf was the only one that didn’t underestimate Ivar, as Ecbert did. When he said he is a crippled. His son he is still a Viking!!
Such a powerful dialogue and profoundly executed by these two! It hits deeply.
Aethelwulf deserved better. He gave his life to his father and kingdom. And in return he gets a narcissistic father and an unloving wife who cheats on him. He even raised Alfred like his own son. Also the ending almost gets me in tears. He asks his own father if he loves him and his father doesn’t even answer
This might be one of my favorite scenes in all of TV. Moe dunford knocks it out of the park here. A son, unloved and damaged by his father, a man of god tortured by demons of his fathers creation, finally confronting years of suffering and the man who caused it. I’d really like to see him in some more high quality productions that haven’t been tainted by the mindvirus of American Hollywood, cause that guy can act.
And with this scene, Moe Dunford won me over. Hard to believe this show was as good as it was.
Yup I couldn’t wait to see how he did and nope they kill him off not even in a dope ass battle with a fucking bug bro
This is what a pure hearted man who is honest and loyal gets treated
In a show where people are beheaded, eviscerated, maimed and tortured in HORRIBLE ways, somehow this is one of the hardest scenes for me to watch. I feel so bad for Aethelwulf here.
This always brakes me. I love my son with all my heart, i can´t imagine how Aethewulf could feel and how Ecbert can't love his son.
ecbert manipulated him all his life, at least he could say he loved him just a little bit
I think he did love him, but his problem was that he finally felt guilty and saw in himself that his son did not deserve Ecberth to tell him such thing. He knew that telling him that he loves wouldn't be as honest as he deserves. He liked his son but felt brutally honest about not valueing him as a son but rather as a tool, and he did feel sorry about it.
My words here are not meant to be a replacement, they are said to remind all of us we are not alone. To all of us who have never heard our fathers tell us they love us, I love you. And to all those who have lived without those words being confirmed from our fathers, I am proud of all of you for being here with me.
This is right up there with game of thrones, probably even better than the later seasons. Better pacing and acting by far
lasts seasons of game of thrones writing wise, are really bad. Rome, Vikings, etc are all better than those seasons
@@dawn-blade oh boy this didn't age well my man
@@ainfajofaf8118 LOL was going to say the same thing.
@@dawn-blade Well dang
@@dawn-blade lol
Such an incredible scene.
Aethelwulf is such underrated character
I can name the truly good men in this show on one hand, and Aethelwulf is the most virtuous of them. Poor guy.
He literally helped butcher women and children as they screamed. All because they didn’t worship his god.
Nobody in this show counts as a decent person. Not a single one.
Athlesthan was just making men gay for him
Ragnar and Ecbert were the 2 most well written characters in the series imo
Preach
I thought game of thrones was a good show,then I was told to watch vikings.i must say this show was awesome plus these people existed and shaped certain aspects of our culture.fantastic story telling and acting.thanks to all for this show.
Moreover no fantasy...dragons and whitewalkers
@@daneyraju8433 there was plenty of fantasy in vikings...lol. but I get what you meant.
I know, this is 3 years late.
Jon Snow was a real person though. same with the Stark family. they were all real
I’m very late I know but almost nothing about this show is grounded in reality it’s VERY loosely based on real history, basically just taking real people that existed and mashing them together in one story/timeline, especially considering how most of them didn’t even exist at the same time as each other, and then using a few real life events as well. And plus with all the religious symbolism and encounters it basically makes this show just as much fantasy as game of thrones
One of the most profound exchanges in Vikings ⚔️
this scene is so powerful
What a great scene! I feel so sorry for Aethelwulf :( you can see and feel his pain in his confrontation with his "father".
I’ve seen this show many times and this is the first time seeing this extended scene.
This is the most underrated scene in all of Vikings.
The acting
The lines
The music
It’s perfect 💯
I always enjoyed Linus Roache acting prior to Vikings but DAMN if this isnt one of his best roles/performances while on this show. At different points you loved, hated, admired and pitied his character. Absolutely brilliant!!!
Thanks for these clips, we appreciate your efforts, Valhalla sends Love and Happiness, our Victory is Secure and Honest. Valor is Victorious not Malicious, Wars are fought and won, not forgotten, that is why our Heraldry and Legacy abound, we are not confounded we are enlightened.
He let himself be decieved, yet he knew the truth all along. Every man must make their own choices and live with them
Aethelwulf is like the "Faramir" of this series...what a sad situation.
His father didn't love him he made him to adopt a bastard son he went with his wife yet he respected him tell me what holds Aethelwulf not to kill here his father his wife and her bastard he was truly a good and honorable man.
To all the noble men and honourable men like Aethelwulf, may God enter them into the highest place of heaven and give them a status and gift everyone should be envious of. They deserve it. Ameen. If you don't believe in religion, then at least look at the gesture of this prayer. It's just recognition of those men, even in today's age who exist, but we don't know their names.
Stellar acting on display magnificent show gentlemen
At 6.39 king ecbert face like he wanted to tell his son that he love him but he can't
Aethelwulf is all u can ask for as a son. He is pious, loyal, brave and honorable. And still his father disrespects him and his wife is a wh*re.
This might be one of the best scenes in the whole show
This scene and the one where Ecbert and Ragnar discuss Valhalla and Heaven.
@@UFCANT And the scene where ragnar gives his last speech to Ivar and Ragnar's death scene.
WHAT A SCENE.
Such another powerful actors and scene
The most noble king i have ever watched on tv... King of kings... King aethelwulf
Only Our Heavenly Father is King of Kings. Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. That title could never be reserved for any man
@@justamannothingmore6394 sure it is true... Just talking about the series
@@thelight2889 Oh okay I understand. Didn't mean to go so hard when I see statements like that I just feel the need to Proclaim the truth of Christ
@@justamannothingmore6394 oh no as a true Christian I love and appreciate what you just did and I hope there is billions who can be like you
He always had a clever answer
When you realize Ecbert never told his own son he loved him through the whole show.
Those were his last words to him if I’m not mistaken
@j-dawg4774 Nah. He said it eventually.
But we don't know how honest he was. Felt like he was still manipulating and using him.
@@jollyquinn430 Considering that he was saying it under the context that he was never gonna see Aethelwulf or his family again because he was choosing to stay behind and face Ragnars sons wrath, and the fact that he’s seen weeping after they leave makes me think he was being honest. It was all right before he died anyways so idk why he would lie or feel the need to somehow manipulate Aethelwulf. The point is he felt really sorry for him and had already cut ties with Judith after this talk they had in the video
“We’re born alone we die alone, and we make what we can of life”.
WOAHHHHH THATS A COLD NIGGA RIGHT THERE !! Didn’t even say it. Got damn they don’t make shows with writing like that no more, shoutout to the brilliant acting too!
what a scene!
Aethelwulf was weak. Dutiful and loyal to a fault, so much so that he'd rather watch his own wife be with his own father and raise her bastard child than do anything else. Ragnar would've never stood by and watched that, and would've actively plotted to screw the guy screwing his wife in the most shameful manner possible. This scene shows the sad tragedy that even though all this is true, Aethelwulf still somehow needed his father's approval, instead of finding his own way and charting his own path.
Aethelwulf is heir of the throne he has duty to his people a kingdom and leaders and nobility often need to sacrifice everything for the realm. They can marry who they love but they marry who is most useful to throne and dynasty.
@@asjaosaline5987 The only way a noble can marry for love is if they are too far down the successory line.
Ecbert was spinet but he is genuinely one of my favourite characters
What an amazing scene. So many more like this in season 5. If the show had ended in season 5 I would have been so glad. This was the perfect season
King Ecbert‘s actions reflect a maxim as formulated by King Philip in the series „Knightfall“, namely ==> „You must always be the wolf, never the sheep. This world only responds to the closed fist, not the open hand.“ - In the 21st century Europe is a sheep, the wolves are aware of that and coming for us all.
ok Nostradamus
Correct, I wish you guys well.
nearly every character and every scene in this show is paralleled to some facet. I see now that aethelwulf is paralleled to a great degree with floki. aethelwulf is the straight forward traditional english voice of reason, as floki is the voice of reason from the gods point of view. both are used by their leaders, both are jealous of athelstan. ragnar, as ecbert points out in this scene, does however legitimately love floki, his sons, lagertha, rollo etc... ragnar ruled with his heart, ecbert with his mind (despite ragnars warning to bjorn not to rule with his heart)
Fantastic comparison.
This scene hits home so fucking hard. I know it can be hard being a parent, but it sure as shit can be hard being the child of said parent.
This part broke my heart, I never knew if my father truly loved me
Heathen, a reference to those people who do not pray or have religions that require being in a church, or those who pray in the heather, or outside, Pagans.
The amount of shit Ecbert made Aetherwolf go through and he still stayed loyal to his father is worth praise and also very toxic.
King Ecbert loved his enemies more than his allies
This show had lot of breathtaking scenes & for me this confrontation is one of them
I hated Aethelwulf when he was introduced, but he becomes a straight badass. Unlike Ecbert Aethelwulf knew that sure, god has a presence but humans can make their own stupid choices, and blaming your stupidity on god isn’t an excuse. Plus he got done dirty as hell by both his wife and father. He deserved better. Great character. I also sorta like how he died. I know it was extremely anti climactic but that’s how shit was back then. It was realistic. They didn’t have remedies for the simplest of things, so people would die from common shit like the flu.
If your son needs to ask you if you ever loved him you know you fucked up.
Ecbert low-key knew this was coming and accepted it as his punishment. He never forgave himself for betraying Ragnar.
It's a strange thing to live for your parents dream, they never really know you so how can they love you? Aethulwulf was a dutiful son, a good son but he was never his own man. That is why his father loved Ragnar and Athelstan more. They showed him something new, they wouldn't do as they were told. If we are too obedient people will make tools of us, it's human nature.
But you have mistaken, you saw what you wanted to see
I wish the brothers had gotten their hands on Aethelwulf.
Ecbert always had this coming to him sooner or later by Aethelwulf
Aethelwulf is so so underrated wtf
Imagine this for not but 40 years you keep trying to impress your father again and again to earn his affection and love but you have no clue if he actually loves you poor aethelwulf
For someone so obessed about his legacy, he sure likes to chop at the stem of his own tree.
Why they had to cut most of this scene out, this scene is way more impactful than the cut version. Especially for prince aethelwulf and how ecbert used him
If any of you yanks or tourists general interested Ecbert and Athelwoulf are both buried in Westminster Cathedral it’s the oldest one in UK
Brilliant acting
This is an incredibly underrated scene. What an amazong, complicated, realistic relationship.
That was such a powerful scene, how come did they delete it ?! I can't get what Ecbert says at 3:12 after "we learn from others", what does he say ? Btw is there somewhere I can watch the complete episodes including all these extended scenes ? I know the american version has to be 40 minutes long, but in other countries episodes may be a few minutes longer.
What we learn from others must chime with something inside oneself. There must have always been something cold, calculated and perverted about me. I see it very clearly now. Ragnar helped me to see it. So did Athelstan.
@@Lily1127channel '...I hate that name'.
I know I'm five years too late and I'd really hope you've found this by now but Amazon Prime has every uncut episode.
Like many of the comments praising this series. It's fantastic, the acting is amazing. I watched this over and over, and I actually felt so sad when the great ragnar was killed. Yes the history behind it is spectacular also, 🙌. Just can't say enough, AMAZING SERIES. ps. If you like this watch THE LAST KINGDOM.. see the viking saga continues from a different period of time . Be safe everyone. 🙏. J
Please tell me the name of this bloody song in this scene.
Can anyone tell which soundtrack is playing in the second half ?
Did you find it? I'm looking it for it too
Such a powerful scene, even though I hated both of them in the show they are both great actors