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Your channel is incredible, don't stop making these videos! I can't wait to see the comparison between Valve Index and Rift S, that will make me decide what headset I buy later this year. Thx :)
Good video. Looks to me that the Rift S is on par with the Vive Pro.What's your thoughts on this? Btw I see everywhere they present the Rift S as a mixed bag...do you recomend it to someone who has the rift on a bookshelf gathering dust? does it create a spark? or better save for valve..
@@neluka2008 I don't have a rift but already tried it a couple times. I'd prefer waiting the Index comparison because Valve is marketing many features that puts this headset at the top of consumer vr headsets. Resolution, framerate, screen, built in audio solution and ipd manual adjustment. It's a hell of a price I know, but I think that's the price we need to pay as enthusiasts trying new technologies. Hope it gets better and cheaper. :)
Rift S is RGB LCD - which has much greater pixel density than the older OLED Pentile displays. Thus, you get an image with much greater clarity. That's why the industry is moving to LCD
Yep but the vr community was all against the rift S and was saying that oculus was taking the wrong direction before seeing any of the results. It's not only about the resolution it's about getting the best balance between resolution/screen/lenses.
@@meowmix705 but a lot of users will miss the deep blacks and amazing contrast of oled...they will have to create an oled with even higher resolution or less screendoor effect. I am looking forward to see the rifts compared to the quest cause the lenses they use are the same and much better than the htc lenses.
ok. i think it was ok to use lcd for rift s. screendoor is much less with lcd because of the subpixels etc. a good lcd can be impressive but black will not be black. i thin rift s is better than we expect.
@Salt Maker I am totally with you. I sold my rift cv1 just some days ago. Black was not black, it was dark green on half of the image. Didn't look good on pitch black scenes - Even my prior Lenovo Explorer did better in that case (just the lenses where total crap - and colors weren't that good either I must admit)...
The Rift S is holding up better than I thought. The Odyssey just looks like someone smeared vaseline on the lenses and the Vive Pro is incredibly disappointing at 3 times the price of a Rift.
With a bit of supersampling, Odyssey+ looks much better than is visible on these images. The colors are much, much better than on LCD screens. However, if you don't have a feel for an OLED screen, you may be very happy with LCD colors. It is like you see OLED colors and then you are spoiled. This is my experience at least. Anyway, I am looking forward to Valve Index screen reviews.
I wanted to hear what you think by using your eyes. Using a camera can have so many variables. For text the rift s looks great. For colors the O+ will always look better
this video doesn't show anything, exposure it's wrong in real life Vive it's is much brighter then the rest, and in this video Vive doesn't look sharp because it's very difficult to find Sweet Spot with camera and correctly focus it. I got original Rift cv1 the rift s Vive Pro and pimax Vive Pro is the by far sharpest and most vibrant of them all. and if you do lens upgrade then there is no comparison. But for the money the rift s is really good preposition
So I am also now a Rift S Owner And I gotta say the optics are awesome and the clearest I have ever used . Compared to Odyssey the FOV is a little less but as u ppl mentioned the sweet spot is much larger and super sharp. Despite the lower resolution on the S it looks better than Odyssey and I honestly cannot see pixels and or screen door. I am pleasantly surprised. The colors and blacks still look good and better than expected with LCD The tracking is already better than WMR. In Lone Echo I can place both controllers behind my back and push off or move around on a surface without lookout at controllers. I do notice like WMR the controllers bug out close to face in shooters but hopefully they will fix that or make some sort of work around. The only grip I have is the software on oculus and steam needs updates but this is par for the course.
@@Silvertinge291 I could not use Odyssey+ for anything else than sim racing and... videos... trying Pavlov or other shooters was such a pain! sold it months ago and ordered Rift S, will see how it compares :)
What the actual hell, it clearly has a much crisper resolution and better readability, even though by specs it should have significantly worse than that of Vive Pro... And they both have same angular distance... I don't understand how's that possible...
I know this vid is a bit old but its worth mentioning that the Vive Pro is defaulted in Steam at 140% Super Sampling. Where as the Odyssey+ is defaulted at 100%. If you turn up the SS on the Odyssey+ to 140% it looks as good if not better the the Vive Pro with less screen door effect.
Launch Steam then launch Steam VR. Next go to Setting, then Video and look for Enable Custom Resolution and make sure to check the box. Then a slider will appear and you can adjustment the resolution above 100%. I use 130-140%. Cleans up the image and still runs smooth.
And to think everyone was talking down on the Rift S a few weeks ago. I knew people were overreacting and that the day would come when they finally realized it’s potential.
still has non updated unit. they should have updated along with the quest which has better display and headset. looksl ike they are moving old lenovo inventory. Looks like a sony psvr set, not something new.
Peter Phinney this is an update to the old rift. Not an upgrade tho. Maybe we will get to see rift 2 when eye tracking and better and cheaper screen resolution comes to the market
I think that has to do with people expecting a new upgrade to the Rift, instead of somenthing like the Rift S. And i would much rather have Sensors than no tracking at all behind you, the Clarity however looks really good.
@@viktorianas I've heard ss at about 1.7 is almost identical to the reverb plus better all round experience due to asw 2.0. Have you any experience with the rift s v the reverb?
wow i was not expecting this outcome. Even with the anti sde of the odyssey +, the Rift S comes out on top. Also the colors of the Rift S are much better then i was expecting, it looks soooo good in elite dangerous. Thanks again for another great through the lenses vid
@@TheBaldrickk Its actually the most accurate out of the three headsets. Look at this video, ruclips.net/video/RLIBabGOclo/видео.html. You will see that the game is much darker.
@@Somtric What did you try? I tried first contact, beatsaber and that dance game (forgot the name). I found the sweet spot on the Rift S, but it still doesn't seem as clear as my O+. Maybe due to some SS I have set. Maybe the Rift S would look better with some SS values applied then.
4:10 Why did you sync up the frame rate to match the Rift S, but not the Vive Pro or Odyssey? The flicker in these shots is distracting and there's no way anyone can make a fair comparison with these shots.
Great video. To me, the Vive pro wins hands down. The price is high, but for a quality monger like myself, it seem near worth the extra cost. If It could afford it. The Odyssey Plus seems to be the next best thing for price and quality, and no prob to set up. The Rift S looks nice, and likely much better to view in person with it on, but it looked overall darker in this video then the other two, making you miss some extra details. I would go with the Vive if I had the cash for it.
I have both and it looks like he messed up with those clips or with focus on the lens I'm not saying it's intentional Vive it's much much sharper than the rift s and difference in resolution is also very noticeable
The Rift S is slightly clearer in some shots (at least where it's in focus compared to the others) but I think the Vive Pro actually had the nicest overall image here.
I don't understand. In all shown games, Rift S picture is noticeable darker, in some cases much darker. But at the big screen test, it has the brightest picture of all headsets. Is it the camera settings or I missed something?
Actually the rift s with its LCD looks the best, which actually makes me even more excited for my Valve Index with also has LCD and the Vive Pro resolution. Also I feel like LCD will be less straining on the eyes for longer play sessions
For anyone that’s used the vive does the black bar actually flow down the screen, I might be purchasing a vive soon so I wanna know if it’s just the camera
i dunno.. looks like Oculus Rift S looks better than odyssey but not as good as vive which is kinda given.. :D so.. would you recommend oculus rift S ? :D
This is spectacular for the Index. Index having the Vive Pro's resolution with the same (or I assume it's the same?) subpixel layout as the Rift S (Which has a marginally lower resolution) is rad.
Question to Tyriel or anyone. Why didn't the Rift S show all the orange colors of the spaceship like the other two headsets did? What is that Spaceship from, or what game? just curious.
I think the Rift S has a lot more realistic colours. The Vive and Odyssey look like they are doing something to the colours which makes them look fake, but the resolution is way better; but even then, the Rift S still has way better text reading.
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You got that the wrong way. In this test the Rift S is fucked up in its colors look at 6.20... it is like it is using a completely different shader there.
I tested those VR headsets at a local electronics store today, the Rift felt like the most sensible to me. And on sale, around 360 €. That's a pretty good deal imo.
Nice comparison! Thanks for that. I sim race mostly and I'm really digging the Rift S over the Odyssey + in this comparison. Rift S has better clarity and easier on your eyes even though the screen resolution isn't as good as the Odyssey +. Also with lower screen resolution we will be able to run higher SS without taxing our GPU's as much. Looks like I'll be getting the Rift S. Thanks again
Exactly, mainly sim racing use too. People seem to have forgotten the second part of the fidelity equation, which is AA implementation, detail settings, super sampling etc, it's never been about pure pixel pushing. I went for the Rift S for those reasons, leaving myself plenty of headroom for in game goodies plus inside out giving me a simple transition to try other experiences as opposed to that sensor stuck on top of the rig.
@@numbersevenhull2540 So Im in the market to get a headset purely for simracing. I think you are making a good point on the pixel pushing. I take it for a pimax this is even more of an issue? On that topic, is the pimax any good for simracing?
@@MVHStudios Don't go with the pimax, take that one off your list. View Windows headsets with some caution as its messy with drivers etc, oculus much better and user friendly. Either Index if you have a 1080ti or high end 20 series card and high end CPU and want to drop some serious £, or Rift S. I don't think you can beat the S for value and what you get, it's a big step up from the CV1 for sim racing. Love mine. As a first VR headset I'm not sure you can go wrong with it.
There are quite a few games that you can modify the contrast and color, anyway rift s has not come out and surely updates will be released throughout his life to correct all your problems.
Very dark screen on Oculus rift s, is there a way to pop it up a little? Do a refresh rate test on a driving simulator 80hz I don't think is going to be good for it or fast moving objects.
Odyssey Plus all the way, so smooth and realistic, colors and anti SDE, not to mention 90hz and better built in audio than rift s, cheaper on amazon now too.
Correct me if this is not possible. Can the Rift s having a smaller resolution but have better clarity than the Vive pro and Odyssey plus because the quality over quantity of pixels is better?
AMOLED screens(Odyssey+ and Vive Pro) has 2 subpixels per pixel. LCD screens(Rift S) has 3 subpixels per pixel. 2880x1600x2 = 9,216,000 subpixels for Odyssey+ and Vive Pro. 2560x1440x3 = 11,059,200 subpixels for the Rift S.
See this is why I think its good to see videos like this. Because now instead of focusing my savings to buy a vive pro or odyssey ill probably be buying a rift S instead. People freaked out about the LCD stuff and the 80hz refresh rate but everyone who has one seems to not noticed the refreshrate that much
Very good video Tyriel on comparing these 3 VR headsets all 3 are not bad. To me it looks like the Rift S is pretty good with Text compared than the other two especially with the Big Text test screen. I dont know why the Rift S didn't fill/show more in the Orange colors with the space ship like the other two VR headsets did. With Assetto Corsa video with the cars moving, It looked like the Vive and Odyssey+ colors looked better,brighter-The Rift S seemed to look darker and not as clear as the other 2 Headsets when doing the 2 games this time. I am surprised with the blacks with the Rift S are darker than I thought they would be(very close to the other two VR headsets). I dont know if actually putting on the headset looking through the lenses would even look better than your camera captures. It will be interesting when I do my own compares with the Rift S vs my Odyssey+ so, Right now, I mainly do SIM racing with the Odyssey+ and also like the Visuals I get the headset. The only 2 things that still wondering about the Rift S compared to my Odyssey+, who has the larger FOV? and with the Rift S since I have an IPD of 60, how good does the software adjust align my eyes to the sweet spot. I will know soon when I get my Rift S which is on pre-order. So the Rift S is looking pretty good with your comparisons against the Odyssey+ and Vive Pro. Need to watch this video a few times more to get a feel of what I am seeing also on my 4k monitor screen down stairs hooked to my gaming computer. I know if you did a comparison to the HP Reverb, the Reverb will have way better resolutions than all of these, but I dont think I have the computer horsepower even with my GTX-1080 to get all the benefits that the HP Reverb has to offer.
I sold my Odyssey + to upgrade to the HP Reverb, but unsure about the mura etc. After seeing this video, I want to know if the display is as clear as the Odyssey? They both have 600~ DPI, but no where I have searched tells me what size the panels are in the Rift S. Anyone know? Thanks.
@@drivinginmorocco4706 I own a Rift S now. Posted some pics on Oculus forum for everyone to see. Pretty impressive display with the extra sub pixels. So to answer my own question, it is better than the Odyssey + in many ways.
Are people looking at the same video as me? The rifts seemed to loose out on nearly all aspects appart from fine text. Lack of contrast and brightness really had failing points
@@sasukeuchiha562 well because i do really like my WMR reality headset i was wondering ive it is a upgrade because the resolution is almost the same and i know the tracking is better but is it worth it
@@wesleyhere18 dose your headset have the inside tracking? I've done enough research on the tracking for the oculus rift s and I'll say its alrite. If you dont like it you can always return them on Amazon:D
@@sasukeuchiha562 Yeah WMR also uses insight out tracking and the oculus rift S has allot better tracking and controllers, and its true i could always return them but for me its not that i won't like the headset.i am not sure ive its woth to upgrade because for me to affort it i have to sell this headset first.
I was really thinking the S would at least hold up but in the end still show its lower Resolution against these but what I Saw was each had 1 noticable artifact unique to the headset, Rift S has a slight Rainbow grid effect, Vive pro most noticable screen door and chromatic aberration, Odyssey+ has a smudgey effect most noticable on text. But the text comparison Rift S pretty cleary was the winner on that one and black levels all seemed comparable but still need to see it in person.
Am I crazy or does the Rift S have much better clarity? Like the difference in the comparison of the menu in Elite Dangerous is night and day compared to the other headsets.
This video actually got me even more excited for the index considering it too will also be using LCD, just a little bit higher res. I'm impressed with the Rift S honestly! Hopefully it will get more people into VR
Tks man for this comparision, great work. Nevertheless, the text photo of the Samsung Ody+ text it's not in the correct angle, we can see some chromatic aberration due to this, the photo doesn't seem taken on the sweet spot
I have about 150+ hours with the rift s so far and would say it is well worth the purchase I have not tried any of the other headsets but I fell like the rift s is a good price for what you get!
Rift S all the way! Much cleaner on colour saturation than the other two. The sharpness in text is also a clear win. While cameras are obviously not a certain science on a VR lenses, you can still clearly note the differences. Thanks for this Tyriel!
Can you do a video on mobility as well? I’ve seen vids that show tracking on the RiftS is bad (lose tracking) and could make or break for competitive gaming.
Which videos? Every video I've seen has said that the tracking is really good and much better than expected and that the only game with any issues is echo vr and even then it is rare that it is much of a problem
It has a better tracking volume so better high speed reaction passing motions behind your back still work in software if done quick but depending on the game you play I would say give it a shot and ship it back in 30 days if it's not up to standard.
Credo di aver capito che sei italiano, quindi ti farò questa domanda in italiano: Com'è la qualità visiva una volta indossato il visore? Io ho il visore della ps4 e in termini di risoluzione non è una meraviglia, volevo sapere se questo ha una risoluzione migliore o meno in quanto vorrei comprarlo al posto di quello che già ho.
People were so worried about the lcd display with the Rift S and honestly I think the Rift s has the best blacks and colors. It’s amazing for just 400$ the vive pro is waaay overpriced. I’d rather get the new Valve index than that shit.
I'm getting a Quest but if I was going PCVR there is no doubt that I would be getting the Rift S. It either holds it's own or is better than all the other PCVR headsets I have seen comparisons to and it's way cheaper with no base stations needed. How it would compare to the Index, I dunno but that is 600 dollars more that the Rift S! Is it better? Probably but 600 bucks worth of better? I doubt it!
in some of these the pictures give the illusion that the black levels are better on the rift S... they can't be better . The ODY Plus has really good black levels with the oled screen.. I think overall the Od+ looks a little better with colors/contrast and screen door, but the Rift S is a little sharper.
The Vive Pro is outdated tech; if you want a look at the best displays on the market, take a peak at the valve index! Same display tech as the rift S, but in far higher resolution, a vastly higher field of view and with dual stacked lenses per eye for screen door effect elimination and clarity.
@@TheLauriLepik well when did you preorder it lol as with all new stuff they are bound to only have so many made and allotted for launch. I went onto oculus website it was not listed but litterally second Slater refreshed and it had litterally just been listed so that will be why I was a lucky one I'm in the UK and I think places like Amazon must have been given a certain amount they could sell and the customers would get on launch day from them a d then the rest would get them in June just like from oculus own site Though I did notice something odd...when prorders went live on oculus UK....they did not go live on Amazon UK till at least 1 hr later lol
I gave an LCD screen a try (Acer WMR). It is really good, especially in terms of SDE, but the colors on the Odyssey or Odyssey+ are much more vibrant. So much that you cannot close an eye on it. I cannot emphasize that enough. I have not seen an Oculus Rift S yet, but one needs to see it with his/her own eyes to know the difference. Anyway, through the lenses images will give you an approximation to what it will look/feel like.
Every LCD is very different tho, as is with every display. Some LCDs have horrible light bleed, mura, awful blacks and all sorts of other issues and some are almost as good as OLED in terms of colours and have pretty decent contrast and decent blacks. It really depends. From what I've heard the rift s has a very good LCD
@@lostecho4394 I am really hoping for Valve Index displays to be comparable to OLED displays or even better. Oculus Rift S display is same as Oculus Go display. Nice displays, but nothing to be impressed about.
Pretty sure Rec Room exists on all platforms, and none of those versions are bound to be very graphically demanding, so compare that as it should give you a good screen comparison with bscly the same graphics quality (texture res / light effects / etc)
Rift S wins because LCD has RGB pixels for each location effectively making it much sharper about 2x. Even when the Quest has more resolution per eye, the OLED panels only have a single dot instead of RGB. I still pre ordered the Quest knowing this as freedom from a PC is a bigger deal than resolution or graphics fidelity. Still will be interesting to see your Quest SDE test.
I got both rift s and vive pro. In terms of display the pro ,and also odyssey, wins IRL. The SDE aint less, just horizontal vs diagonal. Aliasing and pixel crawl is more pronounced in rift s. So is colorbanding. And I actually prefer my Vive Pro when it comes to SDE. The only part rift s is better is ofc price, lenses and setup. Great VR for a cheap price. But its allready collecting dust after finishing Vader Imortal...I still prefer oled with higher res.
Rift S has a clearer display but washed out colors. Odyssey + has better colors. Both are the best choice to choose from. Personally I’d choose the Odyssey + because the Rift S lacks the ability to physically adjust the IPD. So all that extra detail will be useless if your eyes are out of the range to see the display clearly even with IPD software adjusting.
I'm still not gonna replace my Rift CV1 with one of these. Here's hoping we see a headset with negligible screen door effect soon. Eagerly looking forward to how Valve Index and HP Reverb compare with these.
hmm at first i was like wow rift plus looks great for text then onto game play its the worst lol how does that work ?? either way ill be using my odessy plus for a few more years till the come out with something that is major leap forward and not 1-5k
Great video! Vive pro is sharp but has SDE, Odyssey + looks blurry, Rift s less resolution but much less SDE without being too blurry. Leaning toward the Rift S as it will be less taxing on my system, its cheaper, easier to set up, good support, good controllers etc. One question: Why is the Rift S video so much darker than the other two?
Rift S doesn't have as much brightness because it's an LCD panel. The other two are using OLED panels, which have brighter colors and deeper blacks. The tradeoff is that the LCD panel has better subpixel density and so offers better overall clarity. Personally, I wouldn't say either is "best" because it greatly depends on the specific games you intend to play. I prefer the OLED displays for space games, but prefer the LCD panel for racing games. Ultimately, you gotta weigh the pros and cons to decide which gives you the better experience personally, most likely according to the games you'll play most. Everyone will prefer different things depending on what is more important to them after all.
@@HealyHQ Yeah I do know about the LCD difference, but Im not talking about depth of color or black. I mean like the whole image looks like the gamma is set wrong and there is black crush. Like the spaceship at the end looks black on the Oculus without a lot of detail, where as the other two are clearly red with detail. Like that but in every one of the comparison videos.
The most requested Through the Lenses Comparison :)
Any suggestions for apps for Quest-Go-Rift for the next one? Stay tuned here --> goo.gl/5oZXwo
Also remember about the Oculus Quest Giveaway in the Description, and there you will find a little guide for what you are seeing! :) Ciao!✌
Your channel is incredible, don't stop making these videos!
I can't wait to see the comparison between Valve Index and Rift S, that will make me decide what headset I buy later this year.
Thx :)
Good video. Looks to me that the Rift S is on par with the Vive Pro.What's your thoughts on this? Btw I see everywhere they present the Rift S as a mixed bag...do you recomend it to someone who has the rift on a bookshelf gathering dust? does it create a spark? or better save for valve..
@@neluka2008 I don't have a rift but already tried it a couple times.
I'd prefer waiting the Index comparison because Valve is marketing many features that puts this headset at the top of consumer vr headsets.
Resolution, framerate, screen, built in audio solution and ipd manual adjustment.
It's a hell of a price I know, but I think that's the price we need to pay as enthusiasts trying new technologies.
Hope it gets better and cheaper. :)
Valve Index Comparison - when you'll receive it.
nice vid but you should have also included the quest
Is it me or does the Rift s display actually look a lot nicer, Nice black and good colours and the contrast is actually more soothing on the eyes?
Rift S is RGB LCD - which has much greater pixel density than the older OLED Pentile displays. Thus, you get an image with much greater clarity. That's why the industry is moving to LCD
Yep but the vr community was all against the rift S and was saying that oculus was taking the wrong direction before seeing any of the results. It's not only about the resolution it's about getting the best balance between resolution/screen/lenses.
@@cybermad64 This is why I ignore any comments people make on stuff like this before it is even reviewed properly.
@@meowmix705 The Pentile OLEDs were a bit of an issue from day one.. The best of both worlds would be an RGB OLED.
@@meowmix705 but a lot of users will miss the deep blacks and amazing contrast of oled...they will have to create an oled with even higher resolution or less screendoor effect. I am looking forward to see the rifts compared to the quest cause the lenses they use are the same and much better than the htc lenses.
ok. i think it was ok to use lcd for rift s. screendoor is much less with lcd because of the subpixels etc. a good lcd can be impressive but black will not be black. i thin rift s is better than we expect.
@Salt Maker i had the wmr lenovo explorer and the panel was a cheap one. but after a while you forget about it. rift s will ne great
@Salt Maker I am totally with you. I sold my rift cv1 just some days ago. Black was not black, it was dark green on half of the image. Didn't look good on pitch black scenes - Even my prior Lenovo Explorer did better in that case (just the lenses where total crap - and colors weren't that good either I must admit)...
@Salt Maker damn I should have known that sooner 😅 now it's gone for a cheap price 😣 thx for the tip anyways 😁
@7:12 I think the camera is out of focus with the Vive Pro? no?
The Rift S is holding up better than I thought. The Odyssey just looks like someone smeared vaseline on the lenses and the Vive Pro is incredibly disappointing at 3 times the price of a Rift.
With a bit of supersampling, Odyssey+ looks much better than is visible on these images. The colors are much, much better than on LCD screens. However, if you don't have a feel for an OLED screen, you may be very happy with LCD colors. It is like you see OLED colors and then you are spoiled. This is my experience at least. Anyway, I am looking forward to Valve Index screen reviews.
the Vive Pro quality allready 1 year in the market.
I have an ody+ and I think the photo Tyrel took is NOT in the right angle
@@MrPXOMan Ody+ has a somewhat small sweet spot. So, a capturing angle could definitely play a huge role.
Vakhtang Tevdorashvili I supersample as much as I can with my 1070ti and the odyssey + still looks blurry.
Odyssey + has the fairest colors to my eyes
I wanted to hear what you think by using your eyes. Using a camera can have so many variables. For text the rift s looks great. For colors the O+ will always look better
Tyriel
Which HMD looks best (for clarity) to you while using ?
vive pro
this video doesn't show anything, exposure it's wrong in real life Vive it's is much brighter then the rest, and in this video Vive doesn't look sharp because it's very difficult to find Sweet Spot with camera and correctly focus it. I got original Rift cv1 the rift s Vive Pro and pimax Vive Pro is the by far sharpest and most vibrant of them all. and if you do lens upgrade then there is no comparison. But for the money the rift s is really good preposition
So I am also now a Rift S Owner
And I gotta say the optics are awesome and the clearest I have ever used .
Compared to Odyssey the FOV is a little less but as u ppl mentioned the sweet spot is much larger and super sharp. Despite the lower resolution on the S it looks better than Odyssey and I honestly cannot see pixels and or screen door. I am pleasantly surprised.
The colors and blacks still look good and better than expected with LCD
The tracking is already better than WMR. In Lone Echo I can place both controllers behind my back and push off or move around on a surface without lookout at controllers.
I do notice like WMR the controllers bug out close to face in shooters but hopefully they will fix that or make some sort of work around.
The only grip I have is the software on oculus and steam needs updates but this is par for the course.
@@Silvertinge291 I could not use Odyssey+ for anything else than sim racing and... videos... trying Pavlov or other shooters was such a pain! sold it months ago and ordered Rift S, will see how it compares :)
@@viktorianas I have had Rift S for months now and could not be happier
It really is a great HMD for the price. The image is very sharp
At This Point Its What Screen door Effect You Prefer? Lines Dots Or Diamonds??
LCD RGB layout allows for greater pixel density, creating a clearer image. So gimme the Lines SDE !
Why? I prefer no screendoor as the Odyssey+
@ but the O+ has the anti-SDE filter which adds a slight "blurring" to the image. It's a trick that reduces SDE, which of course has a trade off.
Exactly. That's why none of these are that big of an upgrade over the 1st gen VR headsets. I expected better.
@@UNIQUEGUY93 it is a bigger upgrade these are all new gen watch the difference between new and old
The rift s looks amazing
What the actual hell, it clearly has a much crisper resolution and better readability, even though by specs it should have significantly worse than that of Vive Pro... And they both have same angular distance... I don't understand how's that possible...
I know this vid is a bit old but its worth mentioning that the Vive Pro is defaulted in Steam at 140% Super Sampling. Where as the Odyssey+ is defaulted at 100%. If you turn up the SS on the Odyssey+ to 140% it looks as good if not better the the Vive Pro with less screen door effect.
Just curious, where are the settings for the ss?
Launch Steam then launch Steam VR. Next go to Setting, then Video and look for Enable Custom Resolution and make sure to check the box. Then a slider will appear and you can adjustment the resolution above 100%. I use 130-140%. Cleans up the image and still runs smooth.
And to think everyone was talking down on the Rift S a few weeks ago. I knew people were overreacting and that the day would come when they finally realized it’s potential.
ikr?
still has non updated unit. they should have updated along with the quest which has better display and headset. looksl ike they are moving old lenovo inventory. Looks like a sony psvr set, not something new.
Peter Phinney this is an update to the old rift. Not an upgrade tho. Maybe we will get to see rift 2 when eye tracking and better and cheaper screen resolution comes to the market
I think that has to do with people expecting a new upgrade to the Rift, instead of somenthing like the Rift S.
And i would much rather have Sensors than no tracking at all behind you, the Clarity however looks really good.
SO many haters.... Only caring about numbers... Not how they actually work together 😛
6:30 is the contrast on the Rift S this bad? It looks like the brightness of colors is sucked out.
So in a couple of weeks
Rift S vs Pimax vs Index?
HP Reverb is unbeatable at the moment for a seated experience.
Sure. Compare 450 € device with a 1200€ device ^^ Well. There are Benchmark comparisons between a 1070 and a 2080Ti. So what the hell.
@@viktorianas I've heard ss at about 1.7 is almost identical to the reverb plus better all round experience due to asw 2.0. Have you any experience with the rift s v the reverb?
I see these comparisons as vital when choosing what headset to buy. Thanks for doing these.
wow i was not expecting this outcome.
Even with the anti sde of the odyssey +, the Rift S comes out on top.
Also the colors of the Rift S are much better then i was expecting, it looks soooo good in elite dangerous.
Thanks again for another great through the lenses vid
Think that is an illusion theres no way the black levels are better on the Rift S.
The rift has the worst sde of them all, inpart due to the easy to spot vertical lines
Rift S looks great + you get Touch controllers which are just awesome.
Yep the touch controllers feel perfect in the hand to me.
@@shadowbanned5164 I tried all the major vrs rift feels best.
Great video, thanks! In my opinion the winner is RIFT S
What the hell is going on with the image at 6.20. Something is way off on the Rift S, it is loosing detail of the ship too much. Turning black.
Definitely Exposure - either camera settings changed, or the screen is just darker.
@@TheBaldrickk Its actually the most accurate out of the three headsets. Look at this video, ruclips.net/video/RLIBabGOclo/видео.html. You will see that the game is much darker.
Still the Rift S wins on clarity for me :)
I got to try the Rift S, it's definitely not as clear as O+, fyi. Though the Rift S has far better tracking than any WMR kit.
Absolutely true !
@@Somtric What did you try? I tried first contact, beatsaber and that dance game (forgot the name). I found the sweet spot on the Rift S, but it still doesn't seem as clear as my O+. Maybe due to some SS I have set. Maybe the Rift S would look better with some SS values applied then.
Not for you only, it's a fact!
@@sqlevolicious Lol
4:10
Why did you sync up the frame rate to match the Rift S, but not the Vive Pro or Odyssey?
The flicker in these shots is distracting and there's no way anyone can make a fair comparison with these shots.
Great video. To me, the Vive pro wins hands down. The price is high, but for a quality monger like myself, it seem near worth the extra cost. If It could afford it. The Odyssey Plus seems to be the next best thing for price and quality, and no prob to set up. The Rift S looks nice, and likely much better to view in person with it on, but it looked overall darker in this video then the other two, making you miss some extra details. I would go with the Vive if I had the cash for it.
Rift S for the win. Wow, I am a little surprised the the Vive Pro isn’t a bit sharper for $800.
I have both and it looks like he messed up with those clips or with focus on the lens I'm not saying it's intentional Vive it's much much sharper than the rift s and difference in resolution is also very noticeable
Also those clips looks I have different exposure values cannot say it's intentional but in real life Vive is much brighter than a rift s
I have both and the rift s is definitely superior.
And vive pro is 800 for just the headset. Rift s is 3 times cheaper than the vive pro kit
the only advantage i see that the Vive pro has is comparability with the knuckles and eye tracking.
The Rift S is slightly clearer in some shots (at least where it's in focus compared to the others) but I think the Vive Pro actually had the nicest overall image here.
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I thought the pro looked the worst and not even by a little bit, but see what you wanna I guess.
I don't understand. In all shown games, Rift S picture is noticeable darker, in some cases much darker. But at the big screen test, it has the brightest picture of all headsets. Is it the camera settings or I missed something?
Actually the rift s with its LCD looks the best, which actually makes me even more excited for my Valve Index with also has LCD and the Vive Pro resolution. Also I feel like LCD will be less straining on the eyes for longer play sessions
Text is rendered so much clearer, plus it seems like there is more depth to the blacks.
For anyone that’s used the vive does the black bar actually flow down the screen, I might be purchasing a vive soon so I wanna know if it’s just the camera
Own a original rift cv1 and Samsung odessey plus. VR is fun . I'm eagerly waiting for a huge improvement before I'll be upgrading again though.
Are you happy with your Odyssey?
I just wanna say, That i LOVE these videos. I am a member of some VR groups and i always refer them to these videos for buying new headsets. Thank you
i dunno.. looks like Oculus Rift S looks better than odyssey but not as good as vive which is kinda given.. :D so.. would you recommend oculus rift S ? :D
Tyriel, did you feel any difference with the rift s 80hz display? compared with the 90hz displays?
Thanks!!
Honestly they all look pretty close. Much better than the original Rift and Vive.
What is the FOV like wearing the Rift S? Is it any better than a WMR or original Rift?
This is spectacular for the Index. Index having the Vive Pro's resolution with the same (or I assume it's the same?) subpixel layout as the Rift S (Which has a marginally lower resolution) is rad.
I have the rift s but text get blurt after a few meters away is this due to the resolution of the headset or game
Question to Tyriel or anyone. Why didn't the Rift S show all the orange colors of the spaceship like the other two headsets did? What is that Spaceship from, or what game? just curious.
It's basically Anti-SDE (Samsung Odyssey) or Image Clarity (Oculus Rift S)... Kinda hard to pick one.
Rift S owner. Screen is very clean and sharp SDE is not a concern at all. Completely happy with how everything looks.
what did u pick ?
@@triaxn5472 Neither... they both cost too much. lol
I think the Rift S has a lot more realistic colours. The Vive and Odyssey look like they are doing something to the colours which makes them look fake, but the resolution is way better; but even then, the Rift S still has way better text reading.
You got that the wrong way. In this test the Rift S is fucked up in its colors look at 6.20... it is like it is using a completely different shader there.
I tested those VR headsets at a local electronics store today, the Rift felt like the most sensible to me. And on sale, around 360 €. That's a pretty good deal imo.
No bullshit, straight to picture quality comparison in great format. Excellent!
As someone who just upgraded from rift to rift s. It is a significant upgrade. Very much worth it
Is there a through lens video comparison of Quest vs O+?
I was going to get the discontinued htc vive but i should get rift s?
I think every 3 of them looks really good but I'm gona go with the odyssey +
Would be very interesting to have a comparison between the Quest, the Rift S and the Go
Nice comparison! Thanks for that. I sim race mostly and I'm really digging the Rift S over the Odyssey + in this comparison. Rift S has better clarity and easier on your eyes even though the screen resolution isn't as good as the Odyssey +. Also with lower screen resolution we will be able to run higher SS without taxing our GPU's as much. Looks like I'll be getting the Rift S. Thanks again
Exactly, mainly sim racing use too. People seem to have forgotten the second part of the fidelity equation, which is AA implementation, detail settings, super sampling etc, it's never been about pure pixel pushing. I went for the Rift S for those reasons, leaving myself plenty of headroom for in game goodies plus inside out giving me a simple transition to try other experiences as opposed to that sensor stuck on top of the rig.
@@numbersevenhull2540 So Im in the market to get a headset purely for simracing. I think you are making a good point on the pixel pushing. I take it for a pimax this is even more of an issue? On that topic, is the pimax any good for simracing?
@@MVHStudios Don't go with the pimax, take that one off your list. View Windows headsets with some caution as its messy with drivers etc, oculus much better and user friendly. Either Index if you have a 1080ti or high end 20 series card and high end CPU and want to drop some serious £, or Rift S. I don't think you can beat the S for value and what you get, it's a big step up from the CV1 for sim racing. Love mine. As a first VR headset I'm not sure you can go wrong with it.
Rift s has sharp display but the color and contrast not good enough, Is there a software adjustment for color and contrast with the Rift s ?!
There are quite a few games that you can modify the contrast and color, anyway rift s has not come out and surely updates will be released throughout his life to correct all your problems.
Very dark screen on Oculus rift s, is there a way to pop it up a little? Do a refresh rate test on a driving simulator 80hz I don't think is going to be good for it or fast moving objects.
Can we assume that the Valve Index image quality will be similar to that of the Vive Pro since they use a similar panel?
No, they don't at all use a similar panel. The Index uses an LCD panel that's more similar to the Rift S, but with a wider FOV and higher refresh rate
Paulo Alex oliveira no, you are wrong..it is much better... it has more subpixels like the rift s
Can you please give us your opinion on the black levels in very dark games and if its comparable to the rift or a clear downgrade?
Thank you!!
Will Oculus follow the same model lettering as TESLA and go for "S 3 X Y" lol ;)
I ordered a RIFT S so I get warranty on the cable.
Odyssey Plus all the way, so smooth and realistic, colors and anti SDE, not to mention 90hz and better built in audio than rift s, cheaper on amazon now too.
Correct me if this is not possible. Can the Rift s having a smaller resolution but have better clarity than the Vive pro and Odyssey plus because the quality over quantity of pixels is better?
Because of lcd panels instead of OLED display.
AMOLED screens(Odyssey+ and Vive Pro) has 2 subpixels per pixel.
LCD screens(Rift S) has 3 subpixels per pixel.
2880x1600x2 = 9,216,000 subpixels for Odyssey+ and Vive Pro.
2560x1440x3 = 11,059,200 subpixels for the Rift S.
See this is why I think its good to see videos like this. Because now instead of focusing my savings to buy a vive pro or odyssey ill probably be buying a rift S instead. People freaked out about the LCD stuff and the 80hz refresh rate but everyone who has one seems to not noticed the refreshrate that much
Very good video Tyriel on comparing these 3 VR headsets all 3 are not bad. To me it looks like the Rift S is pretty good with Text compared than the other two especially with the Big Text test screen. I dont know why the Rift S didn't fill/show more in the Orange colors with the space ship like the other two VR headsets did. With Assetto Corsa video with the cars moving, It looked like the Vive and Odyssey+ colors looked better,brighter-The Rift S seemed to look darker and not as clear as the other 2 Headsets when doing the 2 games this time.
I am surprised with the blacks with the Rift S are darker than I thought they would be(very close to the other two VR headsets).
I dont know if actually putting on the headset looking through the lenses would even look better than your camera captures. It will be interesting when I do my own compares with the Rift S vs my Odyssey+ so, Right now, I mainly do SIM racing with the Odyssey+ and also like the Visuals I get the headset.
The only 2 things that still wondering about the Rift S compared to my Odyssey+, who has the larger FOV? and with the Rift S since I have an IPD of 60, how good does the software adjust align my eyes to the sweet spot. I will know soon when I get my Rift S which is on pre-order.
So the Rift S is looking pretty good with your comparisons against the Odyssey+ and Vive Pro. Need to watch this video a few times more to get a feel of what I am seeing also on my 4k monitor screen down stairs hooked to my gaming computer.
I know if you did a comparison to the HP Reverb, the Reverb will have way better resolutions than all of these, but I dont think I have the computer horsepower even with my GTX-1080 to get all the benefits that the HP Reverb has to offer.
7:17 was not expecting that kind of clarity from the Rift S. Nice Surprise.
I sold my Odyssey + to upgrade to the HP Reverb, but unsure about the mura etc. After seeing this video, I want to know if the display is as clear as the Odyssey?
They both have 600~ DPI, but no where I have searched tells me what size the panels are in the Rift S. Anyone know?
Thanks.
Not just picture make difference, oculus touch are awsome controllers.
@@drivinginmorocco4706 I own a Rift S now. Posted some pics on Oculus forum for everyone to see. Pretty impressive display with the extra sub pixels.
So to answer my own question, it is better than the Odyssey + in many ways.
Why is the Rift so dark in ED?
Are people looking at the same video as me? The rifts seemed to loose out on nearly all aspects appart from fine text. Lack of contrast and brightness really had failing points
Vive Pro is superior. Sharp image, vibrant colors. less sde than rift S
Can we get a comparison next to the Pimax VR headsets next?
I already have WMR headset the lenovo one, Should i upgrade to the rift S?
If it's better why not
@@sasukeuchiha562 well because i do really like my WMR reality headset i was wondering ive it is a upgrade because the resolution is almost the same and i know the tracking is better but is it worth it
@@wesleyhere18 dose your headset have the inside tracking? I've done enough research on the tracking for the oculus rift s and I'll say its alrite. If you dont like it you can always return them on Amazon:D
@@sasukeuchiha562 Yeah WMR also uses insight out tracking and the oculus rift S has allot better tracking and controllers, and its true i could always return them but for me its not that i won't like the headset.i am not sure ive its woth to upgrade because for me to affort it i have to sell this headset first.
@@wesleyhere18 are you happy with the tracking on your headset?
I was really thinking the S would at least hold up but in the end still show its lower Resolution against these but what I Saw was each had 1 noticable artifact unique to the headset, Rift S has a slight Rainbow grid effect, Vive pro most noticable screen door and chromatic aberration, Odyssey+ has a smudgey effect most noticable on text. But the text comparison Rift S pretty cleary was the winner on that one and black levels all seemed comparable but still need to see it in person.
Am I crazy or does the Rift S have much better clarity? Like the difference in the comparison of the menu in Elite Dangerous is night and day compared to the other headsets.
Wow, thanks! Super happy I went for Rift S! 🎉😁🍻
Me too! 😄👋 []-)
Same! And without external sensors to boot!
And very at very affordable price
Samee no external sensors!!!
This video actually got me even more excited for the index considering it too will also be using LCD, just a little bit higher res. I'm impressed with the Rift S honestly! Hopefully it will get more people into VR
The eye chart is the best. Vive is like when I don't have my glasses on, Odyssey is like my old prescription, Rift S is like my new prescription.
👀
Tks man for this comparision, great work. Nevertheless, the text photo of the Samsung Ody+ text it's not in the correct angle, we can see some chromatic aberration due to this, the photo doesn't seem taken on the sweet spot
The sweet spot is too small though
I have about 150+ hours with the rift s so far and would say it is well worth the purchase I have not tried any of the other headsets but I fell like the rift s is a good price for what you get!
Rift S all the way! Much cleaner on colour saturation than the other two. The sharpness in text is also a clear win. While cameras are obviously not a certain science on a VR lenses, you can still clearly note the differences. Thanks for this Tyriel!
Can you do a video on mobility as well? I’ve seen vids that show tracking on the RiftS is bad (lose tracking) and could make or break for competitive gaming.
Which videos? Every video I've seen has said that the tracking is really good and much better than expected and that the only game with any issues is echo vr and even then it is rare that it is much of a problem
It has a better tracking volume so better high speed reaction passing motions behind your back still work in software if done quick but depending on the game you play I would say give it a shot and ship it back in 30 days if it's not up to standard.
What supersampling settings do you use?
I just am not sure if I want to spend 2x more for index instead of S... what is fingertracking good for if all You do is hold a gun
hiczok Those times when you need to reload said gun.
how come the airplane on the rift s was black
Credo di aver capito che sei italiano, quindi ti farò questa domanda in italiano: Com'è la qualità visiva una volta indossato il visore? Io ho il visore della ps4 e in termini di risoluzione non è una meraviglia, volevo sapere se questo ha una risoluzione migliore o meno in quanto vorrei comprarlo al posto di quello che già ho.
People were so worried about the lcd display with the Rift S and honestly I think the Rift s has the best blacks and colors. It’s amazing for just 400$ the vive pro is waaay overpriced. I’d rather get the new Valve index than that shit.
I'm getting a Quest but if I was going PCVR there is no doubt that I would be getting the Rift S. It either holds it's own or is better than all the other PCVR headsets I have seen comparisons to and it's way cheaper with no base stations needed. How it would compare to the Index, I dunno but that is 600 dollars more that the Rift S! Is it better? Probably but 600 bucks worth of better? I doubt it!
in some of these the pictures give the illusion that the black levels are better on the rift S... they can't be better . The ODY Plus has really good black levels with the oled screen.. I think overall the Od+ looks a little better with colors/contrast and screen door, but the Rift S is a little sharper.
So glad I ordered the Rift S, seems like the best display of every available headset.
The Vive Pro is outdated tech; if you want a look at the best displays on the market, take a peak at the valve index! Same display tech as the rift S, but in far higher resolution, a vastly higher field of view and with dual stacked lenses per eye for screen door effect elimination and clarity.
@@hightoxicity9819 Thanks, I will give the Index a look when it's released. Rift S is my first VR display, seemed like a good place to start out.
Rift S definitely have fixed most of the SDE, something that vive pro should have done first
everyone was sleeping on the Rift S
still am, it's not very impressive
Oculus rift s looking good
Got email this morning to say my Rift S was being preped for posting and delivery...yay can't wait
And I have to wait till June for my Rift S to finally arrive...
@@TheLauriLepik well when did you preorder it lol as with all new stuff they are bound to only have so many made and allotted for launch. I went onto oculus website it was not listed but litterally second Slater refreshed and it had litterally just been listed so that will be why I was a lucky one
I'm in the UK and I think places like Amazon must have been given a certain amount they could sell and the customers would get on launch day from them a d then the rest would get them in June just like from oculus own site
Though I did notice something odd...when prorders went live on oculus UK....they did not go live on Amazon UK till at least 1 hr later lol
Terrific comparison. Can't wait for the rift s to arrive!!
Why such difference in bloom in Elite Dangerous?
Awesome comparison Tyriel. I'm shocked the Rift S' lenses are that good! Waiting for my Rift S to arrive and try it out!
I gave an LCD screen a try (Acer WMR). It is really good, especially in terms of SDE, but the colors on the Odyssey or Odyssey+ are much more vibrant. So much that you cannot close an eye on it. I cannot emphasize that enough. I have not seen an Oculus Rift S yet, but one needs to see it with his/her own eyes to know the difference. Anyway, through the lenses images will give you an approximation to what it will look/feel like.
Every LCD is very different tho, as is with every display. Some LCDs have horrible light bleed, mura, awful blacks and all sorts of other issues and some are almost as good as OLED in terms of colours and have pretty decent contrast and decent blacks. It really depends. From what I've heard the rift s has a very good LCD
@@lostecho4394 I am really hoping for Valve Index displays to be comparable to OLED displays or even better. Oculus Rift S display is same as Oculus Go display. Nice displays, but nothing to be impressed about.
Pretty sure Rec Room exists on all platforms, and none of those versions are bound to be very graphically demanding, so compare that as it should give you a good screen comparison with bscly the same graphics quality (texture res / light effects / etc)
Rift S wins because LCD has RGB pixels for each location effectively making it much sharper about 2x. Even when the Quest has more resolution per eye, the OLED panels only have a single dot instead of RGB. I still pre ordered the Quest knowing this as freedom from a PC is a bigger deal than resolution or graphics fidelity. Still will be interesting to see your Quest SDE test.
I got both rift s and vive pro.
In terms of display the pro ,and also odyssey, wins IRL.
The SDE aint less, just horizontal vs diagonal.
Aliasing and pixel crawl is more pronounced in rift s.
So is colorbanding.
And I actually prefer my Vive Pro when it comes to SDE.
The only part rift s is better is ofc price, lenses and setup.
Great VR for a cheap price.
But its allready collecting dust after finishing Vader Imortal...I still prefer oled with higher res.
Rift S has a clearer display but washed out colors. Odyssey + has better colors. Both are the best choice to choose from. Personally I’d choose the Odyssey + because the Rift S lacks the ability to physically adjust the IPD. So all that extra detail will be useless if your eyes are out of the range to see the display clearly even with IPD software adjusting.
I wanna buy rift s but my laptop doesn't have display port :( currently I'm using htc vive
You might be able to get a converter
Thankfully my laptop does have minidp so I got lucky
A friend of mine has an odessey... He played rift s and immediately placed his preorder and is selling his odessey.
I preordered mine too, I'm excited bro
@@Jay-vf8ue he had to interest in the s until he actually used it
i dont have that luxury your rich friend has.. im staying with the odyssey
@@GeloOfficialPR it's only $399 compared to $500
@@Jay-vf8ue lol ... the odyssey has been on sale for 249 multiple times... i got mine for 200$ used
I'm still not gonna replace my Rift CV1 with one of these. Here's hoping we see a headset with negligible screen door effect soon. Eagerly looking forward to how Valve Index and HP Reverb compare with these.
I love this serie, please keep making them. Still hoping you'll do a Rift S - Lenovo Explorer comparison one day.
So glad you did this comparison, Tyriel!
hmm at first i was like wow rift plus looks great for text then onto game play its the worst lol how does that work ?? either way ill be using my odessy plus for a few more years till the come out with something that is major leap forward and not 1-5k
Great to see that my Odyssey+ keeps up with the newer tech. I am glad because I cant upgrade anytime soon!
@Salt Maker Why so salty?
Wow the Rift S is pretty clear, especially with reading text.
Great video! Vive pro is sharp but has SDE, Odyssey + looks blurry, Rift s less resolution but much less SDE without being too blurry. Leaning toward the Rift S as it will be less taxing on my system, its cheaper, easier to set up, good support, good controllers etc. One question: Why is the Rift S video so much darker than the other two?
Rift S doesn't have as much brightness because it's an LCD panel. The other two are using OLED panels, which have brighter colors and deeper blacks. The tradeoff is that the LCD panel has better subpixel density and so offers better overall clarity. Personally, I wouldn't say either is "best" because it greatly depends on the specific games you intend to play. I prefer the OLED displays for space games, but prefer the LCD panel for racing games. Ultimately, you gotta weigh the pros and cons to decide which gives you the better experience personally, most likely according to the games you'll play most. Everyone will prefer different things depending on what is more important to them after all.
@@HealyHQ Yeah I do know about the LCD difference, but Im not talking about depth of color or black. I mean like the whole image looks like the gamma is set wrong and there is black crush. Like the spaceship at the end looks black on the Oculus without a lot of detail, where as the other two are clearly red with detail. Like that but in every one of the comparison videos.