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The main competitor of the 11800H is the 5900HX. Why not test that? You also didn't look at this year's MAX-15, which has an improved architecture, etc. So why not get the MAX-15 11800H and the 5900HX with a 3070 or 3080? The only thing different between the intel and AMD models are the processor.
@@SF-li9kh My i7-4700MQ quad core beast from 2013 is like 10% faster than i7-2600K at stock. CPU-Z, Geekbench 5, Passmark singlethread scores, all of these i get equivalent perfomance or snappy feeling like a desktop Ryzen 7 1700. in emulation, my i7-4700MQ is *TWICE* as fast vs Ryzen 5 3500U from 2019, can compete with the equivalent H quad core part from AMD because Haswell is an old BEAST.
My current laptop has i7-4510u, 2C/4T 22nm CPU with 28nm GTX 850m lol and that laptop spits straight fire. I'm planning to upgrade soon, and I might actually buy a 11800H laptop. 1. PCIe 4.0 SSD for futureproofing 2. Undervolting for better battery life and to prolong the already impressive lifespan of the CPU It's worse in certain tasks than 5800H, but most of the time we won't notice the difference, let's face it. Granted, my laptop won't be used primarily for gaming, so I might be fine with a 3050 as the GPU, though 3000 series is the minimum because of the 8nm architecture.
@@OrRaino the same happen when intel release core 2 duo...damn, couldn’t forget amd also f4ck up the whole markets. Lessons learned, never trust corporations... they are all into profit. Just look at how amd pricing their 5000. Really need a third brand to come out and knock them both on the ground
@@NamelessPassenger That’s not going to happen anytime soon. Also the pricing on the 5000 is fair considering your getting the best performance. If you want the best then you pay for it.
@@apricotmadness4850 Lmao, you're probably the type of guy who will die first in a zombie apocalypse. You must always be suspicious whenever companies try to do this bullshit, even if it's just a little amount. Neither Intel nor AMD can be trusted. I will personally trust AMD more because of Intel's bullshit, but this can change any time. With that being said, we need both of them. We don't want any one to fail.
@@apricotmadness4850not really, if you don’t care about architecture, or mid range motherboard that support OC...then 11th intel still offer better performance for better price (except i9 11900k)...11600kf vs 11700kf slightly ahead of 5600x vs 5800x. But again, for people who build amd before, there’s no point to buying a new motherboard to go for intel. And 11th h45 mobile destroy 5000H if budget isn’t your concern. After all, 11th h45 launch was the most success mobile launch in decade
@@videosuu300 and they were substantially behind in every other department until TGL. No integrated TB, poor power efficiency, weaker productivity performance, poor iGPU performance for non-gaming laptops.
In my country AMD is facing chip shortages. You know what the sellers are doing? They got greedy and jacked up the price of AMD card laptops to the same price of intel laptops !!! This greed is hurting AMD indirectly as they selling price of 5800H is very less. Due to the absence of price gap, many are picking intel. Which indirectly affects the right thing to do. Any other country facing this ?
I’ve seen a few of models here in Australia, where AMD is around 10-15% cheaper to the Intel equivalent model, but here if the Intel model isn’t much of a difference then the Intel for gaming is a better choice 🥰👍🎉🥳 as as you mentioned, it’s good to see competition between manufacturers, each pushing the other to higher performance etc. Win win win 🏆 for consumers 🥰👍
@@SSS-sz8mg Competition my friend. Intel hasn't been sitting still and neither will AMD. Whether it's AMD/Radeon, Intel, or Nvidia; the competition is about to get fierce.
@@SSS-sz8mg intel didn’t pay him. The fact is that if a laptop really has great ability of heat loss such as Lenovo legion 5 pro, then intel will always have better performance than AMD as its single core is actually more powerful, yet in case of other laptops which don’t have great heat loss then AMD will perform better.
@@SSS-sz8mg I've never taken any money from Intel, AMD, or Nvidia, and have actively turned down all offers in order to remain unbiased. Just because something wins doesn't mean I'm paid lol. If AMD won would you be asking the same thing?
Intel 's catching up ... one of the best moments for fans: can choose which one they Like, the performance and price(now) wont bring them any noticeable disadvantage. Comprehensive and very good video. Thx for it.
@@thecoolerplayer6813 There is one more disadvantage, the fans are about 30% louder. 52db vs 66 db, and also as you undervolt and overlock you will have better thermals vs the intel because they cant get rid of the extra heat anymore as the fans dont have any headroom. On my legion 5 pro I have never even hit 100% fans and run cool as a lukewarm cucumber.
@@nellatl nah, PCIe 4 for the average user/gamer doesn't make a significant difference and thunderbolt is only useful if you plan to hook up a eGPU (which deficits the purpose of spending $$$ on a top line dGPU like 3070 anyways) or if you're transferring a ton of very large data on a regular basis (i.e. Professional content creator/ video editor). But you conveniently forgot to mention AMD being better at multicore processing and much more power efficient.
@@Royan1900 you said the average user. Faster speed and productivity is definitely better for the average user. Intel wins today HOWEVER, amd will likely blow Intel away on the next update. Amd just mentioned they are planning on being better than apple's m1 on the next update.
In my country AMD is facing chip shortages. You know what the sellers are doing? They got greedy and jacked up the price of AMD card laptops to the same price of intel laptops !!! This greed is hurting AMD indirectly as they selling price of 5800H is very less. Due to the absence of price gap, many are picking intel. Which indirectly affects the right thing to do. Any other country facing this ?
Seeing how Ryzen 7 5700G performs below expectation in gaming, it's not surprising anymore to see Ryzen 7 5800H performs below Core i7-11800H. Zen 3 is only better than Rocket Lake or Comet Lake if it packs 32 MB of L3 Cache. With half L3 cache, it's not going to beat Tiger Lake. But objectively speaking, the efficiency of Zen 3 is clearly ahead of Tiger Lake.
Thank you for your hard work. Comparison with frames are well done, but in the future I would love to see temperatures recorded between the two and compared. I believe temperature while gaming is a pretty important aspect when looking at CPUs.
This video really came in handy when trying to decide between an Intel based 3050 ti laptop and an AMD based one. Both came with these CPUs and the same ram and SSD configuration. Thanks to these benchmarks and the fact that I knew I'd be gaming at lower settings, saving the $100 and going Intel became a no-brainer
Huum I liked that Light Blue bars in the comparison, hehe colorful and well made, thanks Jarrod looking forward to seeing what this year's Legion 5i / 7i will be like.
Good on Intel for actually putting their money where their mouth is. Good to have some competition again. :D Interesting to see the lack of cache hurting Zen 3 so much here...
@@SF-li9kh They use 32mb L3 cache per chiplet on desktop, mobile is only 16mb L3 cache. AMD kind of screwed themselves with 8 PCIE 3.0 lanes as well. Which is weird because AMD were the first ones to bring PCIE 4.0 to desktop.
intel didn’t pay him. The fact is that if a laptop really has great ability of heat loss such as Lenovo legion 5 pro, then intel will always have better performance than AMD as its single core is actually more powerful, yet in case of other laptops which don’t have great heat loss then AMD will perform better.
@@imglidinhere It is pretty relevant if someone saw your comment and then assumed that low m3 cache applied to desktop zen 3 as well. You never specified. Comment sections aren't a vacuum.
Thanks for this excellent apples-to-apples comparison, Jarrod! One thing I really would have liked to know is how much louder the Intel system was running the same games as the AMD system. I'll trade a few percentage points in FPS for noticeably quieter performance every time.
AMD is more efficient at lower tdp. By limiting both cpus you are essentially favouring AMD/efficiency. That must be noted. Also OEMS do take this into consideration (that’s partially why their cooling design is different).
@@Dizastermaster. how cpu and gpu behave on games is highly influenced by OEM design. Short story his statement is not true for every game and not for every brand. Motherboard design and BIOS tweaking greatly influences how much power a cpu/gpu can AND will request. I’m not saying his testing was wrong. But he is fundamentally comparing AMD at it’s best to Intel hindered. So it is worth mentioning. This is only accurate for those who plug and play. If you know your thing and you are into tweaking to get the most out of your hardware, Intel on a proper OEM is the way to go by a substantial margin
@@Dizastermaster. yet brands outperform each other just on the plug and play! From his position he should be educating people not settling cause the vast majority won’t care! I love Jarrod. I enjoy watching his content. This is just my opinion. I think more educated consumers leads to a better market overall.
That 1% low in 11800H are impressive, there are some games in 1440p that AMD is also not that bad, but for pure gaming usage, I'll go with 11800H all day
XMG is fine but I think most other brands will offer the intel variant costlier than amd one. so maybe 5800H will provide better cost to performance ratio.
In my area (Brazil) the difference between the 2 in the Dell G15 is about 36 dollars. Sadly I was uninformed and went with Ryzen lol. At least I can appreciate the longer battery life.
I would pick the 5800h even if it is somewhat weaker in games mostly for the better battery life, better price to perf and temperatures (ie not requiring better cooling solution). EDIT: I will not be arguying with all of you in comments :)
Same. In my experience, web-browsing with a QHD/4K resolution screen Intel H45 consumes 20 watts vs 15 watts on AMD H35/45. That translates to 2-4 hours of better battery life on the same capacity. That is a BIG deal. And also both AMD CPU & GPU seems to perform better unplugged than Intel & Nvidia. This is also a BIG deal.
Jarrod is by far my favorite reviewer when it comes to tech. You are outstanding with your concise, unbiased and informative reviews. I watch tons of reviews by people like Linus Tech, Matthew Moniz and Digital Digest, but Jarrod is by far the best. No nonsense, gives you all of the specs and comparison data you could want (as opposed to opinion) and tells it to you straight. Kudos my friend. 👍
Intel's problem is always high temperatures and throttling, power limit and whatnot. If you want to play with an Intel know that after a few minutes the cpu will be limited by the power for high temperatures. i say this according to my last experience with a 10th generation cpu, maybe it was faulty? but reading on various forums almost all 9th and 10th gen intel cpus need undervolting to stay below a certain temperature threshold.
Nonsense, that's not always the case. In this case, the intel was cooler due to the LM. I can say the exact same thing about ryzen and it would hold just as much truth as your statement. Ryzen 5xxx is always high temp and always throttles down, power limit and whatnot. There are cases where they're hotter or cooler, it's not a generalisation because the same can and will be said about ryzen.
@@arkdesign9517 This is not true I have a Legion 5 with a 5800H and I have never had a laptop so cool and quiet even at maximum performance, before I had a laptop with 10th Gen Intel and it was always hot doing nothing or splashing on high temperatures as soon as I started a game
@@Nico_101 read my comment again, maybe this time you actually understand what you're reading. So you had a shit laptop, that means all laptops with that brand in is shit? Dude, are you a child?
@@arkdesign9517 It is you who say things that I have not said and then you give yourself answers LOL. I was talking about Intel in general to begin with because I know how they work. I am not a child but I doubt that you are not, I prefer to stop here than to continue talking to you. I just tell you that to my knowledge almost all intel cpu of at least ninth and tenth generation have overheating problems, years ago I had a laptop with sixth generation intel cpu and it was fine, temperatures were normal. and i had quality laptop, maybe you don't even know what i am. then intel got worse with the new cpu, maybe with the gen 11 it got better I don't know. the fact is that now I have switched to ryzen and I have noticed a great improvement, now I am happy with ryzen and for now I will stay here in the near future if I see that intel has improved in consumption and temperatures I will think again if you don't like what I say or you disagree you can just stop answering. take care, child, lol.
@@Nico_101 dude, again, your example of ONE isn't a large enough sample size to describe an entire LINE of cpus as having problems. This is why I called you a child, cause any adult would see that's nonsense. If you're happy with ryzen, good for you, nothing wrong with that. I don't care what you buy and use, but I had shitty ryzen CPUs as well and didn't classify an entire line of them as "having problems" just because my 3800x was a hot mess.
That's why I've picked up Legion 7 5800h(struck a good deal on it), Legion 7i is not even listed yet on PSREF for my country so I don't expect it till end of the year(Legion 5 Pro is listed for 4 months already and is nowhere to be seen)
Hey Jarrod, great vid; one thing I might have missed is thermals - does the 10nm or 7nm burn hottest and generate therefore more fan noise? or about the same? This is so important for plugged in gaming on a laptop. I use a kneeboard at times. Thanks
Thanks for making clear, concise and compelling comparisons and reviews. I suspect that I have gotten all the info I "need" (for now) from your videos to date ... but I have just subscribed because I think your videos are down-to-earth, informative, and ... well, I'm probably going to need this kind of content in the future ... so may my future "clicks" just help in some small way to help you keep doing what you do so well. You are an asset to the general community, since (in general) we all need great informative content like what you produce. So, thanks, and keep it up! :)
Thanks Jarrod for the massive content! I was wandering if the ryzen would benefit more of the Nvidia dynamic boost due to its better power scaling What do you think?
AMD also seemed to be heavily dependent on RAM speed. So that's another disadvantage. I mean it really fluctuates a lot when you change the RAM in some builds.
Another key benchmark comparison, thanks Jarrod! Can you swap the x16 RAM with x8 RAM sticks (like you did on Legion 5 Pro and some other laptops you reviewed) to see if RAM performance affects one CPU more/less than the other one? It'd be a very interesting video. Thanks again!!
PLEASE, make a comparison between them using intensive rendering.. 4k videos (Premiere, After Effects, Davinci Resolve).. 3d rendering (Cinema 4D, 3D Max, Maya).. There's a lot of designers like me that buy gamer laptops just for working!!!! PLEASE 🥺
@@VedanthB9 you got wrong info. At the same wattage Intel shows lower temperatures. No idea but if you studied this topic since Ryzen 4000 series came out you'd know this
Excellent review. Keep in mind that Intel's 12th Gen Alder Lake processors could launch in October. There are rumours it will be 22% faster than the current 11th Intel generation
Nee Tech is always arriving. There is no end to tomorrow. I really doubt we will get 12th gen mobile chips in our laptops until 2022. Their rumoured chip is a desktop one that boosts to 5Ghz. Mobile one not even rumoured. Also to note Zen 4 is coming soon too. Then next year Zen 5 and 13th gen and so on.
Maybe more than 22% compared to Rocket Lake in singlethread. Golden Cove and Alder Lake will be the new Sandy Bridge and revolutionary for PC gaming laptops. What a monster the 12900K will be, the 11900K already can go beyond 700 points in singlethread perfomance in CPU-Z. One thread is basically 30 or 50% faster than the entirety of the fastest Core 2 Duo ever made...
@@SF-li9kh Zen 4 comes second half of 2022. Alder Lake P will probably launch at CES 2022. Even if AMD gets some Zen 3+ mobile chips out Intels 6+8 will most likely destroy it. So Intel has at least half a year of pretty strong leadership in high performance mobile market. 15W class with 2+8 vs 8 will be closer.
Hi Jarrod would you consider maybe adding Valorant to your test bench of games? I believe it is very much cpu limited like cs go but much newer so it may be an interesting one to see. Thanks for the awesome reviews!
Great job with this video, and good job Intel. However I am curious what the numbers would be if you removed all limitations. Intel's tend to run hotter, so I am curious if the thermal ceiling is better for AMD.
I want to know how do you make the background of your graph transperant. I recently did so, for my latest video(MSI Gf65 gaming review), but not as elegant. :(
Kind of surprised how neck and neck everything was for the most part. But it's definitely a pleasant surprise! It's nice to see actual competition in the CPU space! And I think it's also clear that Intel finally moving to a 10nm process has been a major gain for them as they've finally been able to gap close Ryzen in other places. Though it's simple physics, 7nm is just going to be more efficient. But it does make me excited for 5nm and 3nm in the future which should be even more efficient while being a huge boost to performance.
Well definitely waiting for that too, i'm curious how well the small core alder lake would perform in mobile segment, if the efficiency prowess rumor were true, we'll be seeing the efficiency battle in the mobile segment
Already got my omen with a 3060 and Ryzen 7 5800H and I'm happy with the performance. Im just gonna focus on a desktop build when things get better on the components pricing and availability.
Idk, i don't like laptops no more, i bought one and I have deep regret, i bought a Ryzen 9 5950x and a 3070 ti and now I'm laughing at 8/6/4 core Intel noobs
Hey Bro! I need to run Civil CAD Applications and Some games with some photo and video editing for CAD applications. What should I go for i7 11800H Or R7 5800H? You are doing GREAT. KEEP DOING.
Imagine what amd would price their hardware if they didn't have intel to compete, or the situation with ryzen5000 wasn't proof enough for you they're just as greedy if not worse than intel? What amd did with 5k series was never done in the tech world, not even intel dared, yet every social media outlet kissing amd in their behind was still finding excuses for that pathetic price jacking.
Hi there! Great video, helped me get a feel for both cores working power. Have you considered adding Total Warhammer to the games you benchmark on? I would consider it due to how many entities it needs to load in both modes of the game and whatnot. Cheers
@@JarrodsTech does that mean the i9 for the GE76 isn't the best choice? I'm planning to get one but I am unsure about the i7 vs i9 dilemma, since in my country only the 1080p 300hz is available for the 11th gen GE76 (weird I know)
TLDW: both are within a percent or two of each other in most cases unless you play at low with a 3070. Basically, get whichever is cheaper for the corresponding performance tier
@Meta Data 1 hour with the poorly made XMG BIOS. With other models like the TuF A/F it goes from 7 hours on Intel to 10 hours on AMD. Also, neither has stutters really. I agree that the frame rate is higher in Tiger Lake but stutters is quite misleading. That's why I said it's based on price mostly. Lower noise and power Vs slightly more performance at a higher power target.
@@driveclub294 No - neither will stutter or be laggy. Both Intel Tiger Lake and AMD Zen 3 are excellent and that's why I say choose whichever is cheaper.
I scored a Zephyrus g15 with a 3070 and a R9 5900hs for 900$ this year. Upgraded the ram and tweaked a few settings in windows, and i absolutely love the performance. That little laptop of mine beat my old tower with a Ryzen 5 3600, 32GB ram, with a zotac 3060.
With the TDPs locked to 45W I wonder how they fare when they are not limited, considering the last comparison showed a significant increase in performance to the Intel chip. Looking forward to the 11400H Vs 5600H video, your work is immensely appreciated.
I guess 11300H isn't competitive enough to fight 5600H. 11400H will face 5600H equally especially there is little to no price difference between 11400H laptops and 5600H in my country
Would have loved to see a short glimpse of what the performance with the default config would have been. Because most users don't change power limits at all.
Which should I buy ryzen 7 5800h with 130tgp(legion 5 pro) or i7 11800 h with 105 tgp (predator helios 300) or ryzen 9 5900hx 115+15 tgp(rog strix)? please reply ASAP
@@JarrodsTech hi Jarrod. I'm asking coz I've only played some corpo for a while. So what you just walk around little china as a street kid and record fps or what exactly? TIA
@@arkdesign9517 in this test sure, i had a 11800h and it was running hotter and throttling so ended up returning it and going with AMD no issues so far, I mainly game on it for hours so that’s my only real testing which IMO is more valid in terms of real world use
It feels so strange to see Intel back on top in mobile just from going to 10nm. I still feel like AMD has a lot more to offer, but imagine Intel vs AMD with the same transistor size in the future. This might really mean that AMD is still behind Intel in IPC, but the efficiency of the silicon narrowed the gap until now.
Syzerix said it. The TSMC process node "size" is not comparable to Intel's old naming system. There are a lot of people who do not know this so Intel is changing the naming system in the future so Intel's old 10nm becomes 7I and that is roughly same as TSMC's 7N and Samsung's 7nm in silicon density.
@@PatGeek37 with the current chip shortage? nahhh I bet, it wouln't. Anyway, i've seen u spamming the same comments... a die-hard fan of a monopoly who controled cpu prices for decades lol
@@ryanjaredguicosioson2591 I don't think the chip shortage gonna do anything towards Intel by 2022 and they both basically monopolies given the chance since you full on have like two choices Amd or Intel If anything amd and Intel are helping each other from getting in trouble for being in a real monopoly You can see this with the 86x/64x licensing
@@saricubra2867 so mobile cpu running that hot won't brick laptops in the long run? My omen runs hot very easily and its quite scary to play more than an hour with those temps
Hi jarrod. Great video. I want your advice. i have three laptop options to choose from 1. i5-10500h + 3060 75W / $1213 2. i5-11300h + 3060 85W / $1281 2. Ryzen 5 5600h + 3060 85W / $1348 Rest of the specs are the same for all three. which one would you recommend me ?
I would recommended ryzen 5 5600h and rtx 3060 because rtx 3060 need 6 core 12 thread cpu at minimum to avoid cpu bottleneck. Maybe you can check asus tuf dash f15 review in this channel for better understanding
@@mrbobgamingmemes9558 but the first option i mentioned is i5 10500h (6 core/12 thread) cpu just like ryzen 5 4600h and performs similar to 4600h. The second option i mentioned is the asus dash f15. and only has i5 11300h in asus dash f15 is a 4 core/12 thread cpu. i know that a 4 core cpu bottlenecks the 3060. thats why i was asking jarod to guide me in my purchase.
But as we saw in the previous video, the temperature of intel is higher. So i think this unnoticeable difference not worth it as i prefer the laptop to run cooler and doesn't matter if it is couple frames less
Where do you get that impression from? AMD CPU and GPU have better efficiency, which translates to better battery life, lower temps, and quieter fans. Currently All-AMD is also much cheaper than Intel/Nvidia laptops. All I see is AMD winning, if you want to call it that.
@@driveclub294 hard to tell cause it also depends on the cooling but it can the heavyiest games without a problem and it should run better than amd at all games
I prefer more battery life and better performances when unplugged than a couple more FPS....adding the fact that it's pricier if you go with Intel no matter the brand, and maybe the 5900HS will do better here!
Not really a couple more performance- its like 10 percent better. And even though Intel is pricier, the 11800h offers more perf/dollar, meaning it is actually the better value laptop. 5900hs vs 11900h was not tested though.
@@jay-5061 other than CS Go, it was very close and surely not 10%.... Especially in high and ultra. And who's gonna play in low while buying a gaming laptop with 3060 or 3070 that costs more that 1500$?? 🤔 Anyway as a laptop user i prioritize battery life and perfs while unplugged, otherwise I'm buying a desktop....
@@sesame25 The funny thing is even at 1440p max, the 11800h still offers u better price/perf I have a gaming laptop, and I'm pretty sure most people play with gaming laptops play with them plugged in. The battery life difference goes from 6 hours, to like 5 hours. But I would rather take the extra performance and extra perf/dollar than an extra hour of battery life. And gaming laptops are supposed to be mobile, but they also have bulky coolers, and many people carry gaming mice with them. And there are also outlets everywhere nowadays. Unless you are going to be gaming in the park lol.
Good afternoon, I have been looking for a gaming laptop for months at this point (I have watched almost of your review) and the Eluktronics Mech-15 G3 called my attention, with the same specs as the ones from this video, do you consider that buying that laptop is worth it?
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Yay, exactly what I needed! Thanks Jarrod! ❤️❤️❤️
Thanks this was needed 👍
that sounds like something i may actually be able to afford LOL
Now we're talking jarrod, looking forward to it 👍👍
The main competitor of the 11800H is the 5900HX. Why not test that? You also didn't look at this year's MAX-15, which has an improved architecture, etc. So why not get the MAX-15 11800H and the 5900HX with a 3070 or 3080? The only thing different between the intel and AMD models are the processor.
We can all thank AMD for pushing Intel. Competition truly is great for the consumer
My PC from 5 years ago is a dual core CPU 😂. So yeah. Definitely gotta thank AMD for this and glad they are doing well now
@@SF-li9kh That's about half as old as the dinosaur I'm using (which never had a discrete GPU, mind you).
@@SF-li9kh My i7-4700MQ quad core beast from 2013 is like 10% faster than i7-2600K at stock. CPU-Z, Geekbench 5, Passmark singlethread scores, all of these i get equivalent perfomance or snappy feeling like a desktop Ryzen 7 1700.
in emulation, my i7-4700MQ is *TWICE* as fast vs Ryzen 5 3500U from 2019, can compete with the equivalent H quad core part from AMD because Haswell is an old BEAST.
My current laptop has i7-4510u, 2C/4T 22nm CPU with 28nm GTX 850m lol and that laptop spits straight fire.
I'm planning to upgrade soon, and I might actually buy a 11800H laptop.
1. PCIe 4.0 SSD for futureproofing
2. Undervolting for better battery life and to prolong the already impressive lifespan of the CPU
It's worse in certain tasks than 5800H, but most of the time we won't notice the difference, let's face it.
Granted, my laptop won't be used primarily for gaming, so I might be fine with a 3050 as the GPU, though 3000 series is the minimum because of the 8nm architecture.
@@anonymouspokemon4623 Is not worse than 5800H lol, it's better.
This is why we need competitors for everything, so companies will not go stagnant.
yeah if amd was not giving intel a competition then till this day intel will be giving 4 core cpu
@@OrRaino the same happen when intel release core 2 duo...damn, couldn’t forget amd also f4ck up the whole markets. Lessons learned, never trust corporations... they are all into profit. Just look at how amd pricing their 5000. Really need a third brand to come out and knock them both on the ground
@@NamelessPassenger That’s not going to happen anytime soon. Also the pricing on the 5000 is fair considering your getting the best performance. If you want the best then you pay for it.
@@apricotmadness4850 Lmao, you're probably the type of guy who will die first in a zombie apocalypse.
You must always be suspicious whenever companies try to do this bullshit, even if it's just a little amount.
Neither Intel nor AMD can be trusted. I will personally trust AMD more because of Intel's bullshit, but this can change any time. With that being said, we need both of them. We don't want any one to fail.
@@apricotmadness4850not really, if you don’t care about architecture, or mid range motherboard that support OC...then 11th intel still offer better performance for better price (except i9 11900k)...11600kf vs 11700kf slightly ahead of 5600x vs 5800x. But again, for people who build amd before, there’s no point to buying a new motherboard to go for intel. And 11th h45 mobile destroy 5000H if budget isn’t your concern. After all, 11th h45 launch was the most success mobile launch in decade
Glad Intel is back in the race! We need Red and Blue to humble each other because they're all we have 💪🏽
Sadly they're all we have lmao
We might have green soon
Intel always been ahead when it comes to gaming
@@videosuu300 and they were substantially behind in every other department until TGL. No integrated TB, poor power efficiency, weaker productivity performance, poor iGPU performance for non-gaming laptops.
@@vncube1 this is a gaming comparison video lol, everyone knows they were behind in that but when it comes to gaming they were always ahead
Well if intel isn’t much more expensive then it is very compelling against amd now. Glad to see competitions so we have more choices
Hardly if you care about battery life.
In my country AMD is facing chip shortages. You know what the sellers are doing? They got greedy and jacked up the price of AMD card laptops to the same price of intel laptops !!! This greed is hurting AMD indirectly as they selling price of 5800H is very less. Due to the absence of price gap, many are picking intel. Which indirectly affects the right thing to do.
Any other country facing this ?
I’ve seen a few of models here in Australia, where AMD is around 10-15% cheaper to the Intel equivalent model, but here if the Intel model isn’t much of a difference then the Intel for gaming is a better choice 🥰👍🎉🥳 as as you mentioned, it’s good to see competition between manufacturers, each pushing the other to higher performance etc. Win win win 🏆 for consumers 🥰👍
if you don't care about battery life, sure.
What about all the security flaws from intel?
I was waiting for this for so long, thank you Jarrod for always bringing top quality videos!!
@@SSS-sz8mg Competition my friend. Intel hasn't been sitting still and neither will AMD. Whether it's AMD/Radeon, Intel, or Nvidia; the competition is about to get fierce.
@@SSS-sz8mg intel didn’t pay him. The fact is that if a laptop really has great ability of heat loss such as Lenovo legion 5 pro, then intel will always have better performance than AMD as its single core is actually more powerful, yet in case of other laptops which don’t have great heat loss then AMD will perform better.
@@SSS-sz8mg I've never taken any money from Intel, AMD, or Nvidia, and have actively turned down all offers in order to remain unbiased. Just because something wins doesn't mean I'm paid lol. If AMD won would you be asking the same thing?
@@JarrodsTech hey Jarrod Im asking Will you make a video about ryzen 5 5600G VS ryzen 7 5700G?
@@SSS-sz8mg dude that’s rude. I think that jarrods is one of the most neutral gaming laptops reviewers so O don’t think That he took money from intel.
Intel 's catching up ... one of the best moments for fans: can choose which one they Like, the performance and price(now) wont bring them any noticeable disadvantage. Comprehensive and very good video. Thx for it.
I thought you actually meant cooling fans because they're _always_ a sticking point for many people.
no disadvantage apart from the battery life :p
a normal intel fanboy here
really happy to see intel is catching up
waiting for 12th gen now
@@thecoolerplayer6813 There is one more disadvantage, the fans are about 30% louder. 52db vs 66 db, and also as you undervolt and overlock you will have better thermals vs the intel because they cant get rid of the extra heat anymore as the fans dont have any headroom. On my legion 5 pro I have never even hit 100% fans and run cool as a lukewarm cucumber.
@@KrAOLo 52db is still loud af 😂
As much as I don’t need a new laptop, I can always appreciate the competition in the space
For the first time , this is the first time where you could no go wrong with any cpu.
You couldn't go wrong
U go wrong with amd because u don't get pcle 4 ssd for ultra fast speed or thunderbolt 4
@@nellatl nah, PCIe 4 for the average user/gamer doesn't make a significant difference and thunderbolt is only useful if you plan to hook up a eGPU (which deficits the purpose of spending $$$ on a top line dGPU like 3070 anyways) or if you're transferring a ton of very large data on a regular basis (i.e. Professional content creator/ video editor).
But you conveniently forgot to mention AMD being better at multicore processing and much more power efficient.
@@Royan1900 it doesn't make a significant difference,until it does.
@@Royan1900 you said the average user. Faster speed and productivity is definitely better for the average user. Intel wins today HOWEVER, amd will likely blow Intel away on the next update. Amd just mentioned they are planning on being better than apple's m1 on the next update.
In my country AMD is facing chip shortages. You know what the sellers are doing? They got greedy and jacked up the price of AMD card laptops to the same price of intel laptops !!! This greed is hurting AMD indirectly as they selling price of 5800H is very less. Due to the absence of price gap, many are picking intel. Which indirectly affects the right thing to do.
Any other country facing this ?
My country is facing it too. The difference was the AMD chip costed more compared to the Intel chip.
@@freezekram6787 Kram, what if you and SF are from the same country though?
My country also facing the same thing 😂
Amd price were too high compared intel
Amd laptops here are pretty cheap.
Same the 17 11800h is cheaper here than 5800h
Seeing how Ryzen 7 5700G performs below expectation in gaming, it's not surprising anymore to see Ryzen 7 5800H performs below Core i7-11800H. Zen 3 is only better than Rocket Lake or Comet Lake if it packs 32 MB of L3 Cache. With half L3 cache, it's not going to beat Tiger Lake. But objectively speaking, the efficiency of Zen 3 is clearly ahead of Tiger Lake.
5700G has another problem. It's monolithic. Not chiplet desing the the X variants.
*pets my 64MB cache*
Finally, a time where both companies are competitive
Thank you for your hard work. Comparison with frames are well done, but in the future I would love to see temperatures recorded between the two and compared. I believe temperature while gaming is a pretty important aspect when looking at CPUs.
This video really came in handy when trying to decide between an Intel based 3050 ti laptop and an AMD based one. Both came with these CPUs and the same ram and SSD configuration. Thanks to these benchmarks and the fact that I knew I'd be gaming at lower settings, saving the $100 and going Intel became a no-brainer
So Intel for 1080p, doesnt matter for QHD gaming (so pick AMD for better battery life).
Lol, didn't you hear that he tested both systems at same power lvls.
That is pretty much the conclusion.
Huum I liked that Light Blue bars in the comparison, hehe colorful and well made, thanks Jarrod
looking forward to seeing what this year's Legion 5i / 7i will be like.
Good on Intel for actually putting their money where their mouth is. Good to have some competition again. :D
Interesting to see the lack of cache hurting Zen 3 so much here...
In desktop chips it's not an issue. They also have 24MB cache. Only problem is in mobile chip
@@SF-li9kh They use 32mb L3 cache per chiplet on desktop, mobile is only 16mb L3 cache. AMD kind of screwed themselves with 8 PCIE 3.0 lanes as well. Which is weird because AMD were the first ones to bring PCIE 4.0 to desktop.
@@SF-li9kh I know it's not an issue in desktop chips. I run a 5800X. Irrelevant information is irrelevant, also wrong. It's 32MB L3 on the desktop.
intel didn’t pay him. The fact is that if a laptop really has great ability of heat loss such as Lenovo legion 5 pro, then intel will always have better performance than AMD as its single core is actually more powerful, yet in case of other laptops which don’t have great heat loss then AMD will perform better.
@@imglidinhere It is pretty relevant if someone saw your comment and then assumed that low m3 cache applied to desktop zen 3 as well. You never specified. Comment sections aren't a vacuum.
Thanks for this excellent apples-to-apples comparison, Jarrod! One thing I really would have liked to know is how much louder the Intel system was running the same games as the AMD system. I'll trade a few percentage points in FPS for noticeably quieter performance every time.
good point
AMD is more efficient at lower tdp. By limiting both cpus you are essentially favouring AMD/efficiency. That must be noted. Also OEMS do take this into consideration (that’s partially why their cooling design is different).
He explained that gaming typically lowers the cpu to 45W anyways
@@Dizastermaster. how cpu and gpu behave on games is highly influenced by OEM design. Short story his statement is not true for every game and not for every brand. Motherboard design and BIOS tweaking greatly influences how much power a cpu/gpu can AND will request. I’m not saying his testing was wrong. But he is fundamentally comparing AMD at it’s best to Intel hindered. So it is worth mentioning. This is only accurate for those who plug and play. If you know your thing and you are into tweaking to get the most out of your hardware, Intel on a proper OEM is the way to go by a substantial margin
@@gaston1527 His entire premise of comparing things is for plug and play
@@Dizastermaster. yet brands outperform each other just on the plug and play! From his position he should be educating people not settling cause the vast majority won’t care! I love Jarrod. I enjoy watching his content. This is just my opinion. I think more educated consumers leads to a better market overall.
@@gaston1527 Which is exactly why he used the same brand?
You finally made this video comparing Tiger Lake-H to Cezanne-H head to head. Thanks Jarrod.
That 1% low in 11800H are impressive, there are some games in 1440p that AMD is also not that bad, but for pure gaming usage, I'll go with 11800H all day
XMG is fine but I think most other brands will offer the intel variant costlier than amd one. so maybe 5800H will provide better cost to performance ratio.
Not really, sometimes it’s the other way around
Actually depends on stock and region.
In my area (Brazil) the difference between the 2 in the Dell G15 is about 36 dollars. Sadly I was uninformed and went with Ryzen lol. At least I can appreciate the longer battery life.
With Intel's next node launching in 2 months offering a 20% performance/watt improvement, it's pretty obvious why they're naming that node Intel 7.
I guess
I would pick the 5800h even if it is somewhat weaker in games mostly for the better battery life, better price to perf and temperatures (ie not requiring better cooling solution).
EDIT: I will not be arguying with all of you in comments :)
But Intel has the better price to perf🧐?!!
You pick battery life in a gaming machine ???
Weird choice but okay?
Same. In my experience, web-browsing with a QHD/4K resolution screen Intel H45 consumes 20 watts vs 15 watts on AMD H35/45. That translates to 2-4 hours of better battery life on the same capacity. That is a BIG deal. And also both AMD CPU & GPU seems to perform better unplugged than Intel & Nvidia. This is also a BIG deal.
@@hyperenerjak8179 Its not just a gaming machine for me i use it for everything i do.
@@hyperenerjak8179 it is a laptop at the end of the day
Super clear comparison, straight to the point. It's appreciated!
Jarod’s one of the best Tech RUclipsrs 👍🏻♥️
Jarrod is by far my favorite reviewer when it comes to tech. You are outstanding with your concise, unbiased and informative reviews. I watch tons of reviews by people like Linus Tech, Matthew Moniz and Digital Digest, but Jarrod is by far the best. No nonsense, gives you all of the specs and comparison data you could want (as opposed to opinion) and tells it to you straight. Kudos my friend. 👍
Intel's problem is always high temperatures and throttling, power limit and whatnot. If you want to play with an Intel know that after a few minutes the cpu will be limited by the power for high temperatures.
i say this according to my last experience with a 10th generation cpu, maybe it was faulty? but reading on various forums almost all 9th and 10th gen intel cpus need undervolting to stay below a certain temperature threshold.
Nonsense, that's not always the case. In this case, the intel was cooler due to the LM. I can say the exact same thing about ryzen and it would hold just as much truth as your statement. Ryzen 5xxx is always high temp and always throttles down, power limit and whatnot.
There are cases where they're hotter or cooler, it's not a generalisation because the same can and will be said about ryzen.
@@arkdesign9517 This is not true I have a Legion 5 with a 5800H and I have never had a laptop so cool and quiet even at maximum performance, before I had a laptop with 10th Gen Intel and it was always hot doing nothing or splashing on high temperatures as soon as I started a game
@@Nico_101 read my comment again, maybe this time you actually understand what you're reading.
So you had a shit laptop, that means all laptops with that brand in is shit? Dude, are you a child?
@@arkdesign9517 It is you who say things that I have not said and then you give yourself answers LOL.
I was talking about Intel in general to begin with because I know how they work.
I am not a child but I doubt that you are not, I prefer to stop here than to continue talking to you. I just tell you that to my knowledge almost all intel cpu of at least ninth and tenth generation have overheating problems, years ago I had a laptop with sixth generation intel cpu and it was fine, temperatures were normal. and i had quality laptop, maybe you don't even know what i am. then intel got worse with the new cpu, maybe with the gen 11 it got better I don't know. the fact is that now I have switched to ryzen and I have noticed a great improvement, now I am happy with ryzen and for now I will stay here in the near future if I see that intel has improved in consumption and temperatures I will think again if you don't like what I say or you disagree you can just stop answering. take care, child, lol.
@@Nico_101 dude, again, your example of ONE isn't a large enough sample size to describe an entire LINE of cpus as having problems. This is why I called you a child, cause any adult would see that's nonsense.
If you're happy with ryzen, good for you, nothing wrong with that. I don't care what you buy and use, but I had shitty ryzen CPUs as well and didn't classify an entire line of them as "having problems" just because my 3800x was a hot mess.
even finding a 8 core laptop is hard to impossible in eastern europe xD even for A reasoNABLE price
What is reasonable, is the next question
That's why I've picked up Legion 7 5800h(struck a good deal on it), Legion 7i is not even listed yet on PSREF for my country so I don't expect it till end of the year(Legion 5 Pro is listed for 4 months already and is nowhere to be seen)
@@C0nvi im jealous cause im stuck with 4 core lenovo legion y520 you dont hear these model numbers anymore its like OLD now
@@Nogardtist I know that feeling bro, I'm waiting for delivery rocking 5,5 years old Lenovo y700
@@C0nvi bruh good luck hope its a 4-8 times more performance then what you have or had
Hey Jarrod, great vid; one thing I might have missed is thermals - does the 10nm or 7nm burn hottest and generate therefore more fan noise? or about the same? This is so important for plugged in gaming on a laptop. I use a kneeboard at times. Thanks
Would love to see the FFXIV:Shadowbringers benchmark test run at max settings on these. it gives great stats on how it was handled.
Thanks for making clear, concise and compelling comparisons and reviews.
I suspect that I have gotten all the info I "need" (for now) from your videos to date ... but I have just subscribed because I think your videos are down-to-earth, informative, and ... well, I'm probably going to need this kind of content in the future ... so may my future "clicks" just help in some small way to help you keep doing what you do so well. You are an asset to the general community, since (in general) we all need great informative content like what you produce. So, thanks, and keep it up! :)
Thanks Jarrod for the massive content!
I was wandering if the ryzen would benefit more of the Nvidia dynamic boost due to its better power scaling
What do you think?
AMD also seemed to be heavily dependent on RAM speed. So that's another disadvantage. I mean it really fluctuates a lot when you change the RAM in some builds.
In Europe, Scandinavia the intel is strangely more cheap ( not by much), but still cheaper 🧐
not in denmark (intel is much more expensive) are you looking at 11'th gen?
Another key benchmark comparison, thanks Jarrod!
Can you swap the x16 RAM with x8 RAM sticks (like you did on Legion 5 Pro and some other laptops you reviewed) to see if RAM performance affects one CPU more/less than the other one? It'd be a very interesting video. Thanks again!!
PLEASE, make a comparison between them using intensive rendering.. 4k videos (Premiere, After Effects, Davinci Resolve).. 3d rendering (Cinema 4D, 3D Max, Maya).. There's a lot of designers like me that buy gamer laptops just for working!!!! PLEASE 🥺
What about fan speed and temperatures? Those really matter to me.
Being both limited by Jarrod to same 45W CPU and 125W GPU I don't expect any different heat requirement in this comparison.
As far as I’m aware, Intel’s CPUs get hotter than those of AMD.
@@VedanthB9 you got wrong info. At the same wattage Intel shows lower temperatures. No idea but if you studied this topic since Ryzen 4000 series came out you'd know this
@@tabalugadragon3555 I couldn’t find a direct comparison, but AMD runs at around 93 C without throttling. Does Intel run cooler than that?
@@VedanthB9 Yes. More like 89-91.
Excellent review. Keep in mind that Intel's 12th Gen Alder Lake processors could launch in October. There are rumours it will be 22% faster than the current 11th Intel generation
Nee Tech is always arriving. There is no end to tomorrow. I really doubt we will get 12th gen mobile chips in our laptops until 2022. Their rumoured chip is a desktop one that boosts to 5Ghz. Mobile one not even rumoured. Also to note Zen 4 is coming soon too.
Then next year Zen 5 and 13th gen and so on.
Yeah, so, Alder lake + Ampere refresh (2022Q1, one year after the release of Ampere for laptop) could be a good combo
and keep in mind their 4 energy efficient cores may benefit battery life greatly, beating AMD in all aspects.
Maybe more than 22% compared to Rocket Lake in singlethread. Golden Cove and Alder Lake will be the new Sandy Bridge and revolutionary for PC gaming laptops.
What a monster the 12900K will be, the 11900K already can go beyond 700 points in singlethread perfomance in CPU-Z. One thread is basically 30 or 50% faster than the entirety of the fastest Core 2 Duo ever made...
@@SF-li9kh Zen 4 comes second half of 2022. Alder Lake P will probably launch at CES 2022. Even if AMD gets some Zen 3+ mobile chips out Intels 6+8 will most likely destroy it. So Intel has at least half a year of pretty strong leadership in high performance mobile market. 15W class with 2+8 vs 8 will be closer.
Hey Jarrod, I purchased the Intel version based off of your findings. Thank you.
Glad I could help!
I want L7 vs L7i vs S17 😭
Also I wonder if next year we'll have PCIe 4 on AMD?
so apu in dekstop will have to
My bet is a combination of pcie 3.0x8 and lower L3 cache makes it slightly slower vs 11th gen.
Hi Jarrod would you consider maybe adding Valorant to your test bench of games? I believe it is very much cpu limited like cs go but much newer so it may be an interesting one to see. Thanks for the awesome reviews!
I agree! 👍
Nice you're using the slower version of the AMD chip to make this vid.
Great job with this video, and good job Intel. However I am curious what the numbers would be if you removed all limitations. Intel's tend to run hotter, so I am curious if the thermal ceiling is better for AMD.
Yes I would like to see both laptops run all out just how they are out of the box.
Great comparison video. Btw what were the the thermals of these CPUs?
This is the kind of content some users like me want to see. Thanks!
I want to know how do you make the background of your graph transperant. I recently did so, for my latest video(MSI Gf65 gaming review), but not as elegant. :(
Kind of surprised how neck and neck everything was for the most part. But it's definitely a pleasant surprise! It's nice to see actual competition in the CPU space! And I think it's also clear that Intel finally moving to a 10nm process has been a major gain for them as they've finally been able to gap close Ryzen in other places. Though it's simple physics, 7nm is just going to be more efficient. But it does make me excited for 5nm and 3nm in the future which should be even more efficient while being a huge boost to performance.
Great comparison of 2 great CPUs. But I’m looking forward to Alder Lake 12th gen mobile. Up to 16 cores on a laptop in early 2022 is gonna be crazy.
Well definitely waiting for that too, i'm curious how well the small core alder lake would perform in mobile segment, if the efficiency prowess rumor were true, we'll be seeing the efficiency battle in the mobile segment
Will having only 8x PCIE 3.0 on AMD possibly be more noticeable on a laptop with an 3080 at 140+ watts?
absolutely yes. the faster the graphics card the stronger the bottleneck.
@justsomeguyhere You might get a bit more performance with PCIF 4.0, but the big selling point for PCIE 4.0 is that your storage can be twice as fast.
Possibly? Only a test can verify that.
DirectStorage is coming and maybe having PCIE 4.0 SSD's will matter then.
@@BigMac5 I see you liking to open that crystal ball🔮
Thanks for the comparison i was waiting this .
Tokyo 2020 Olympics final match is finally here 😄
Our Gaming Chip battle will be legendary! lol
Took me a moment lol
I wonder how the i7 compares to the 5900HX given those ones are allowed to get higher power and frequencies
no, the 5900HX would make no difference, and why comparing i7 with 5900 and not with i9 ?
I saw some benchmarks, it was getting ahead of r9 in some scenarios
It should be compared with core i9
Awesome video for real Jarrod!
Thanks!
Great vid as usual mate. Just wondering if you can do a review on the infinity m7 with the 11th gen i7? And or compare it to the legion 7 amd
Dislikes are from AMD fanboys who can't take the fact that Intel is the Master of working on fire xD
nah, those were just random dislikes LOL
Already got my omen with a 3060 and Ryzen 7 5800H and I'm happy with the performance. Im just gonna focus on a desktop build when things get better on the components pricing and availability.
Idk, i don't like laptops no more, i bought one and I have deep regret, i bought a Ryzen 9 5950x and a 3070 ti and now I'm laughing at 8/6/4 core Intel noobs
@@blocksource4192 Yep unless 16 cores for gaming is useless.
Hey Bro!
I need to run Civil CAD Applications and Some games with some photo and video editing for CAD applications.
What should I go for i7 11800H Or R7 5800H?
You are doing GREAT.
KEEP DOING.
Temperature should also be a consideration, I think. Ryzen tends to run a bit lower on that scale, but Intel has the option for undervolting enabled.
Imagine the price of that intel laptop if AMD was not around...
Imagine what amd would price their hardware if they didn't have intel to compete, or the situation with ryzen5000 wasn't proof enough for you they're just as greedy if not worse than intel?
What amd did with 5k series was never done in the tech world, not even intel dared, yet every social media outlet kissing amd in their behind was still finding excuses for that pathetic price jacking.
@@arkdesign9517 intel already has history of bribing the companies. AMD isn't
@@ArunG273that doesn't change anything.
triggering fanboys 100
At least in India, the i7 laptops are priced much higher, which makes the deciding factor in many cases.
Hi there! Great video, helped me get a feel for both cores working power. Have you considered adding Total Warhammer to the games you benchmark on? I would consider it due to how many entities it needs to load in both modes of the game and whatnot. Cheers
Need a i7 vs i9 comparison video
The i9 is basically diminishing returns. I have watched many reviews that saw a lower performance too as it was not clocking as high.
@@JarrodsTech does that mean the i9 for the GE76 isn't the best choice? I'm planning to get one but I am unsure about the i7 vs i9 dilemma, since in my country only the 1080p 300hz is available for the 11th gen GE76 (weird I know)
@@TheFerkala In a similar chassis, I9 performs better. But some I9 laptops are slim thus throttle the I9 chip
@@rashinmanickam8151 for the chassis of the GE76? Is it enough not to throttle it?
@@TheFerkala GE76 is good.
Let's remember the Ryzen has only Pcie gen 3 compared to Intels gen 4 and it is still close.
So what you gonna say?
I brought this laptop after watching your vids, the infinity w5 here in NZ. No regrets whatsoever.
Intel was always ahead in gaming, nothing has changed.
It's also ahead in productivity. Why? Because if you remove the marketing of Intel 10nm vs TSMC 7nm. Intel 10nm is smaller and more dense.
Thank you Jarrod for stepping up and making this video happen. As always, you da man!
TLDW: both are within a percent or two of each other in most cases unless you play at low with a 3070. Basically, get whichever is cheaper for the corresponding performance tier
@Meta Data 1 hour with the poorly made XMG BIOS. With other models like the TuF A/F it goes from 7 hours on Intel to 10 hours on AMD.
Also, neither has stutters really. I agree that the frame rate is higher in Tiger Lake but stutters is quite misleading.
That's why I said it's based on price mostly. Lower noise and power Vs slightly more performance at a higher power target.
@@driveclub294 No - neither will stutter or be laggy. Both Intel Tiger Lake and AMD Zen 3 are excellent and that's why I say choose whichever is cheaper.
I scored a Zephyrus g15 with a 3070 and a R9 5900hs for 900$ this year. Upgraded the ram and tweaked a few settings in windows, and i absolutely love the performance. That little laptop of mine beat my old tower with a Ryzen 5 3600, 32GB ram, with a zotac 3060.
Always good content. I look forward to your videos. Cheers, mate.
Glad you like them!
With the TDPs locked to 45W I wonder how they fare when they are not limited, considering the last comparison showed a significant increase in performance to the Intel chip.
Looking forward to the 11400H Vs 5600H video, your work is immensely appreciated.
Hey jarrod. Which of the 2 laptops was producing more heat/fan noise?
heat 1% to team blue but they are using 30% more fan noise. After overlocking team red is way ahead.
@@KrAOLo any source or graph? Where did you get the info
Way ahead of what? Fan noise?
@@KrAOLo i assume you were just spouting empty shit
which one should i get? can you help me
could you please do a 5900hx vs 11800h video please？
Now do a comparison in battery life between these two when off the outlet
temperatures?
Thank you my good Sir. When you will be reviewing the Alienware r6 and the 11th gen GP76 ??? And thank you again for your efforts. We love you 💕
So Ryzen is power efficient, and intel has stronger power! Nice comparison
Yay. Just the thing I've been waiting for. Just came out of the gym and opened RUclips. Instant happiness.
I'm much more interested in the battle between 11300H vs 5600H with an RTX 3060 as that is what most people are going to buy
I guess 11300H isn't competitive enough to fight 5600H. 11400H will face 5600H equally especially there is little to no price difference between 11400H laptops and 5600H in my country
11300H is bad. Get the 5600H or the 11400H. 4 cores in a CPU these days is a joke.
11300H is a quad core processor that very few OEMs did laptops with and those are actually expensive. So no, people won't get 11300H.
@@Ghostsonplanets 10300H and 11300H are very popular in budget laptops with 3050/3060 at least in europe
@@towb0at Well then one should stop buying it. The shit 4 core CPUs gotta go. 11400H or 5600H should be the bare minimum
Would have loved to see a short glimpse of what the performance with the default config would have been. Because most users don't change power limits at all.
Which should I buy ryzen 7 5800h with 130tgp(legion 5 pro) or i7 11800 h with 105 tgp (predator helios 300) or ryzen 9 5900hx 115+15 tgp(rog strix)? please reply ASAP
Please explain "cyberpunk 2077 little china street kid life path "
It's a part of the game, if you play it you'll know 😅
@@JarrodsTech hi Jarrod. I'm asking coz I've only played some corpo for a while. So what you just walk around little china as a street kid and record fps or what exactly? TIA
Hey, you forgot the temperatures! Thermal test? :(
Intel runs hotter and fan noise is higher too
@@pancakeninja445 actually, intel ran cooler in this test. Don't lie for the sake of it.
Jarrod himself said it.
@@arkdesign9517 in this test sure, i had a 11800h and it was running hotter and throttling so ended up returning it and going with AMD no issues so far, I mainly game on it for hours so that’s my only real testing which IMO is more valid in terms of real world use
Great Video! Your videos save the need to watch through gameplay tests 😁👍
Glad you like them!
So the Intel laptop you shown in the video is pcie 4 x16 ? Or pcie 4.0 x8 ?
It feels so strange to see Intel back on top in mobile just from going to 10nm. I still feel like AMD has a lot more to offer, but imagine Intel vs AMD with the same transistor size in the future. This might really mean that AMD is still behind Intel in IPC, but the efficiency of the silicon narrowed the gap until now.
10nm (intel) and 7nm (tsmc) are basically on par.
Syzerix said it. The TSMC process node "size" is not comparable to Intel's old naming system. There are a lot of people who do not know this so Intel is changing the naming system in the future so Intel's old 10nm becomes 7I and that is roughly same as TSMC's 7N and Samsung's 7nm in silicon density.
AMD will have no answer until their Zen 4 mobile chips arrive in Q1 2023 at the earliest. Alder Lake mobile is launching in Q1 2022.
@@PatGeek37 with the current chip shortage? nahhh I bet, it wouln't. Anyway, i've seen u spamming the same comments... a die-hard fan of a monopoly who controled cpu prices for decades lol
@@ryanjaredguicosioson2591 I don't think the chip shortage gonna do anything towards Intel by 2022 and they both basically monopolies given the chance since you full on have like two choices Amd or Intel
If anything amd and Intel are helping each other from getting in trouble for being in a real monopoly
You can see this with the 86x/64x licensing
What about the heat tho? Many intel chips are running hot up to 97-99° which of course degrade many componenta life
Nonsense.
That is nonsense in this mobile CPU generation because 10nm SuperFinFET has almost 3 times more density than 14nm.
@@saricubra2867 so mobile cpu running that hot won't brick laptops in the long run? My omen runs hot very easily and its quite scary to play more than an hour with those temps
@@chrisk6759 If your laptop runs at 97 or 99 °C, you clearly have a problem with your thermal paste or fans.
@@chrisk6759 At max at least, it's normal to reach 90°C or at least 92 on a badly cooled laptop in Cinebench.
Can someone help.. what's better Intel i7 11800h rtx 3060 and ryzen 7 5800h rtx 3070 both Lenovo legion laptops.
sorry, excuse me sir, now i have the same question as yours 😂, can you help me? 🤣
Hi jarrod. Great video. I want your advice.
i have three laptop options to choose from
1. i5-10500h + 3060 75W / $1213
2. i5-11300h + 3060 85W / $1281
2. Ryzen 5 5600h + 3060 85W / $1348
Rest of the specs are the same for all three.
which one would you recommend me ?
I would recommended ryzen 5 5600h and rtx 3060 because rtx 3060 need 6 core 12 thread cpu at minimum to avoid cpu bottleneck. Maybe you can check asus tuf dash f15 review in this channel for better understanding
@@mrbobgamingmemes9558 but the first option i mentioned is i5 10500h (6 core/12 thread) cpu just like ryzen 5 4600h and performs similar to 4600h.
The second option i mentioned is the asus dash f15. and only has i5 11300h in asus dash f15 is a 4 core/12 thread cpu. i know that a 4 core cpu bottlenecks the 3060. thats why i was asking jarod to guide me in my purchase.
@@moopsi-pupa what laptop model that use 10500h and ryzen 5 5600h ?
@@mrbobgamingmemes9558 msi gf65 has i5 10500h
acer nitro has 5600h
@@moopsi-pupai think you chose the one that have lower cpu temperature
But as we saw in the previous video, the temperature of intel is higher. So i think this unnoticeable difference not worth it as i prefer the laptop to run cooler and doesn't matter if it is couple frames less
intel was actually running cooler but ok
Intel winning all I see if a bunch of AMD excuses in the comments
Indeed, that is the self deception at display.
AMD fanboys can't take the truth that intel is good and AMD is good
Where do you get that impression from? AMD CPU and GPU have better efficiency, which translates to better battery life, lower temps, and quieter fans. Currently All-AMD is also much cheaper than Intel/Nvidia laptops.
All I see is AMD winning, if you want to call it that.
You know them very well.
I have the 11800h and I'm very happy
@@driveclub294 hard to tell cause it also depends on the cooling but it can the heavyiest games without a problem and it should run better than amd at all games
I'm currently in pickle with picking either ryzen 9 5900hx and Intel 11800h on a laptop.
All of this seems like micro research to do ngl
I prefer more battery life and better performances when unplugged than a couple more FPS....adding the fact that it's pricier if you go with Intel no matter the brand, and maybe the 5900HS will do better here!
Not really a couple more performance- its like 10 percent better. And even though Intel is pricier, the 11800h offers more perf/dollar, meaning it is actually the better value laptop. 5900hs vs 11900h was not tested though.
its more like 10-15% but ok keep coping
@@jay-5061 other than CS Go, it was very close and surely not 10%.... Especially in high and ultra.
And who's gonna play in low while buying a gaming laptop with 3060 or 3070 that costs more that 1500$?? 🤔
Anyway as a laptop user i prioritize battery life and perfs while unplugged, otherwise I'm buying a desktop....
@Meta Data it's very expected, but according to what I have seen with Alienware, the i9 is way more expensive!
@@sesame25 The funny thing is even at 1440p max, the 11800h still offers u better price/perf
I have a gaming laptop, and I'm pretty sure most people play with gaming laptops play with them plugged in. The battery life difference goes from 6 hours, to like 5 hours. But I would rather take the extra performance and extra perf/dollar than an extra hour of battery life. And gaming laptops are supposed to be mobile, but they also have bulky coolers, and many people carry gaming mice with them. And there are also outlets everywhere nowadays. Unless you are going to be gaming in the park lol.
both of them are so strong so the problem is not the choice between them. the real problem now is my wallet :))
You are right
Good afternoon, I have been looking for a gaming laptop for months at this point (I have watched almost of your review) and the Eluktronics Mech-15 G3 called my attention, with the same specs as the ones from this video, do you consider that buying that laptop is worth it?
Are you planning on doing a comparison of the XMG Neo 15 Ryzen 9 5900HX and whatever the Intel equivalent of that is (guess who's on Team Red)?