the problem is that in most regions around the world acer is selling this with i5 11300h which is a 4 core processor and in comparison to that, 5600h is an absolute winner in every scenario.
You mean in India right? See get the Asus tuf Gaming F15 in place or nitro 5, it has 11400h plus the screen is 144hz with 3ms response way better than the nitro's 20ms something, plus I think only asus tuf is the only one which give 11400h in place of 11300h thats why i ended up getting the tuf, plus thie year's model got a 90whr battery and way better cooling than last year
@@navasheen8964 well not only in india but also in many asian countries, also yeah ik the tuf is a great buy in terms of specs but am not sure about the thermals on that machine as i have used a 2020 tuf a15 and it get too hot to handle at times.....
@@sarthakmishra2752 trust me way better this year got it for 79k and preforms real nice gpu tems don't go above 80 that too hardly touch 80 and cpu stays cool as well, watch some reviews they finally nailed it this year I was playing cyberpunk at like med-high with dlss balanced and got close to 60fps and tbt hardly went above 80 degrees
Now that's how everyone should compare CPU, GPU or something (with other components of the same specs and the same ram on both machines). Amazing video Jerrod ❤️
@@JarrodsTech I understand. Clearly it is very hard to make such in-depth comparisons that's why other Ytbers are not doing it. But the fact that you put in so much effort in make these videos is just amazing 🙏🏻❤️
@@JarrodsTech Sir, I have a doubt Bcoz the integrated graphics used in the i5 11400H is worst compared to the vega 7 graphics in amd ryzen 5 5600H. For watching movies and for doing smaller gpu bounded works then Ryzen will be better right?
currently intel also has advantage of having the thunderbolt 4 for even more future-proof port. maybe very high speed nvme external ssd for editing movie, or extenal gpu.
Man i remember when you only had 5k subscribers. I bought my laptop thanks to you channel. Suddenly remember and come back. Growing so fast, happy for you
Be very keen to hear if you ran any results before equalising the ram, namely was there any noticeable improvement running 2 x 16gb. These laptops have an interesting ram setup in some models..
Currently using AMD's 5600H on Legion 5 Gen 6 2021, but I am stoked to see Intel's future ! They seem to have learned from the past, 10nm SuperFin is doing superfine !
he's probably the only one in the world that make in-depth review and doesn't only covering $3000 machines. in other words, reviewing laptops that people actually care about
@@SF-li9kh imo those laptops only exist so companies can put all their best technologies in in order to get positive reviews so people would have positive impression on them as a company. but their sales and revenues mainly come from cheaper laptop instead
While it might not make a difference in the conclusion, but there is something wrong with thermal system for the Ryzen version of this laptop to have thermal throttling at lower power levels.
Hi Jarrod, Can you please make a video comparing the i9-11900H and Ryzen 9 5900HX? I haven't seen any good video of the comparison yet and it is much needed. Thanks in advance.
Was finally able to order my Legion 5! $1372 (pre-tax) for 17" legion 5 with 11400h, 16GB RAM, RTX 3060, 512GB SSD, 144Hz, 80Wh. I THINK I got a pretty bangin' deal haha, but it was the best I've seen in a while and it was finally not out of stock so I jumped at the opportunity! Really hoping I like it, and hoping this laptop will last me many years into the future.
What a nice numbers and performance review for both of these laptops. We all know that intel is really up to the competition of getting ahead from AMD because intel doesn't want to disappoint its own loyal customers in the other hand we also know that AMD loyal customer will defenately stick on using AMD ryzen on their CPU because of its little changes and also considering price differences. I am not in using them both but as what I can see intel trully ahead now but budget gaming laptop is more the best and beast at all🥰
Hey Jarod an idea for u. Not every laptop has good thermal paste application which seems to be the issue here. What u can do is use a thermal camera and check how much heat spread along the cooling system. Too much red on the cpu compared to other laptop may indicate bad paste as it cant easily pull out heat due to bad application.
I recently ordered the Lenovo 7 Gen 6 with a 5900x, 32 gigs of ram, 3080, 1 Tb ssd, and the shipping date was this November. If you need a laptop for this school year, I recommend not customizing thr laptop and getting a pre-built model. I needed the laptop for school, so I decided to order the 11980hk with all the same specs except for a 2 terabyte SSD, thunderbolt ports, and of course the PCIE Gen 4. I would love to see you do a review on this model, especially since the intel model is more readily available for those of us in the U.S. Maybe a 5900x vs 11980hk comparing thermals, performance, and battery life. Love the reviews Jarrod! Keep it up :) Ordered the intel a day ago, and it already shipped (will arrive this Thursday).
I am still a bit baffled by one thing that seems to be consistent throughout all the reviewers: Intel and AMD, when set to the same power-limit, seems to draw the same amount of power, the Intel-laptops are often also lower in idle-powerdraw, yet with the same battery-size the AMD-laptops universally last longer. Is there a problem that Intel is running the cores higher than needed during idle/low-load, like downclocking 4 but letting one run high?
When I recently purchased this same model of Acer Nitro 5, had 2 options of either getting R5 5600H or the i511400H. I chose the I5 one as it was 40$ cheaper.
I both are giving same amount of performance if u have intel cheap go for it if ryzen is cheap go for ryzen. but one thing is 11th is more recent thing than ryzen so it have pci gen4 capability so I think intel does the job perfectly but double check that it's a 6 core 11400h not a 4 core 11300h
I want to know how do we enable no power limit tgp of processor in gaming laptop coz I haven't seen one every laptop has 45W tdp I live in India is it that's why or what??? I got confused
According to HWInfo64, it seems like my 5900HX Legion 7 is using PCI Express 4.0 in some areas, including the cryptographic co-processor and the lanes to the graphics card. Maybe I am confused or maybe this is another Easter egg worth looking into, but that's what it says. I thought all Ryzen systems were using PCI Express 3.0 only. Maybe somebody can explain, or it's something for Jarrod to figure out.
Tbh I’m not understand some comparison since I’m not that much knowing about hardware but software but this is very informative. Trying to shift to amd for my next upgrade laptop
очень доступно и понятно, помог определиться с выбором покупки, Lenovo17.3" IPS 1920, Intel Core i5-11400H 2.70 ГГц, nVidia GeForce RTX 3060 6 Гб, я за более новый процессор и меньшее тепловыделение, спасибо за обзор, лучшее видео из всего доступного в сети
There were cases when companies use the exactly same design for intel and AMD, and that means that the mount pressure and heatsink design weren't adequate to one or another. I think this was what happened there. Try opening the heatsink and see if thy are exactly the same despite the differences in surface area
I get around 10000 points in Cinebench R23 with a Legion 5 with the same 5600H in performance mode (max TDP of 66W for a few seconds and then goes down to 56W), so I think your laptop is just either hard locked to 45W or there's some other kind of throttling going on (I've never been able to hit 90C on the hotspot even running Prime95 for hours).
in my experience Nitro 5 has always struggled with thermals. I own a 2018 Nitro 5, and it has the worst thermals with same specs on laptops from Lenovo and HP Only Dell manages to heat up more
@@adityanayak6327 You must be mistaken. I've owned two renditions of the Nitro 5 chassis (cir. 2020,2021) both with Ryzen CPUs. The thermals on either generation are excellent. This is without any modification to thermal pastez etc) simple as is out of the box.... The Acer Nitro 5 thermals when equipped with a Ryzen CPU are nothing short of excellent.
Can you tell some good points in choosing a 14 inch vs a 15.6 inch or 16 inch laptop? At similar prices you find Zephyrus G14 or Asus ROG Strix G15 or Lenovo Legion 5 (Pro, with 16"), with similar configurations. The desktop is not an option anymore, so going from there to a laptop, how should we choose? For everyday use, Internet navigation, movies, photo and very light 4K video editing. The power is not a problem with these laptops, but having a small screen and portability of the 14", or the excellent screen of Legion 5Pro but a big size and heavy, especially if from time to time would mean going out with it?
Can you give us more details on thermals? I understand that Intel scales more with power, but similar power consumption with the same cooling system should give similar temperatures.. Or not? I'd like a deeper dive in the cooling differences, checking if the fan profile is different between the two laptops or the thermal interface is more or less effective. I'm confident you are not biased in your analyses
@@JarrodsTech can't wait for it! Of course, depending on the sensor placement and due to the chiplet design on AMD, the ccx temperature can well be higher than Intel's package, but I'm surprised to see this big of a difference!
@@JarrodsTech good day sir in this review would you also include the use of external fans such as the cooling pads for laptop if it would really do something? my dad was asking me about this so he could buy some if necessary
Hello Jordan, I appreciate your efforts and reviews. I am waiting for Review of HP Victus, ( R5 5600H, RTX 3060, 8 GB RAM, 512GB SSD). Specially, I want to know about the built quality, price to performance ratio. Love from India
15:32 That is exactly the opposite of reality. With a slower GPU, the CPU matters _less,_ not more, because the GPU is the bottleneck under more circumstances (or maybe even all).
I have the AMD version on the way, the Intel version wasn't available and now it seems the AMD version isn't either, at least on Newegg. I may have gotten the last one.
Do you think limiting CPU freq. or lower proc.power.state to 95-90-80% etc. when also using Gigabyte Control Center(Power Saving Mode/Perform.Mode etc.) can cause incompatibilty? I am with Ryzen 5 5600H Laptop and I had a lot of freezes in win 11 when I started tweaking those stuff. Now I preinstailled win 10 and I got a freeze again, and the only thing I did was change stuff in power settings - set a 3300mhz limit and lower power.proc.state to 95%; Is it possible that the CPU needs that power and temp and freezes, because I limit it?
Given the price difference which one of these two configurations would you pick: Lenovo Legion 5 15ITH6 i5-11400H 32GB 512SSD RTX3050Ti - US $1 072 or Lenovo Legion 5 15ACH6 R5 5600H 32GB 512SSD RTX3050 - US $978 Not sure if Thunderbolt 4 is worth paying the difference?
Hey! Will some tell me which would be better i5 11400 RTX3050 or 5600h RTX3050 ? In terms of performance like Adobe Products and gaming ? Which one is better. Please help
Hey Jarrod, when you do a battery comparison. If a screen has high refresh rate do you leave it at the high refresh rate (144 Hz, 240 Hzetc) or do you bring it down to 60 Hz to save battery life?
Ryzen die is super small and power dense so when you couple that with a thin, not very smooth, not very high clamping force cold plate that runs only 2 small shared heat pipes to the heatsink, and bad thermal paste, it is no wonder it has some thermal transfer issues. Even on desktop with water cooling ryzen 5000 does not run very cool.
@@edward3709 I don't know about that. I think the ryzen 5000 laptops are using a refined version tsmc 7 mm because the performance on battery is dramatically higher than Intel's while also maintaining an almost 1.7 x battery life
Thanks for the great reviews J! A few days ago I pulled the trigger on the Nitro 5 Ryzen 5 5600H RTX 3060 for just $600 at Walmart and upgraded the memory to 32GB CL22 in dual channel Samsung's x8 AA chips for another $70. It made a huge difference in term of performance!
That sums it up well, if you plan to use your laptop pretty much as a desktop than go Intel. Otherwise AMD is the better laptop CPU choice for me. But at the end of the day, I'd go for the cheaper one if all other specs are identical 😂
My friend purchased a day-to-day laptop powered by the i5 1135G7 (no discrete GPU), and I purchased a 'gaming laptop' with a Ryzen 5 4600H + GTX 1650 GDDR6. The difference in our battery life is appalling. He gets 2-3 hours maximum, whereas mine pushes the 5 hour boundary. Not sure if it has to do with CPU or make (Dell and HP, respectively). Our day-to-day workloads are exactly the same (classes, videos, essays, etc.)
So I was looking for a video comparison between the i5 11400H and the R5 and damn this video is great. I'm actually planning to buy a gaming laptop soon. I have one on sight which is a Lenovo IdeaPad Gaming 3, R5 5600H, 8GB RAM, RTX 3050 TI and 256GB SSD @ $650. Do you recommend it, is it a good deal/purchase?
I don't know about that. I think the ryzen 5000 laptops are using a refined version tsmc 7 mm because the performance on battery is dramatically higher than Intel's while also maintaining an almost 1.7 x battery life
I think you should retest several comparisons, using lenovo legion 5 pro and 7 notebooks(It's all my opinion, please do not swear) because off best cooling systems: - ryzen 5 5600h vs intel i5-11400h in legion 5 pro; - ryzen 7 5800h vs intel i7-11800h in legion 7; - ryzen 9 5900HX vs intel i9-11980HK in legion 7.
@@OrRaino kindly go and check before suggesting some random guy🙏 I mentioned ryzen 5 and rtx 3060 while he did with rtx3070 ryzen 7. Kindly apply your suggestion to your comment 🙏.
@Ahmad exactly what I thought but his configuration had 3070 with tgp of 100watts but i asked for 3060 with tgp of same 100 watts this can show some effect on battery performance and probably gaming too.
My ryzen 5 4600H laptop sucks about 8watts of power on battery in general usage which blows me away considering it works just as snappy when plugged in. My old pentium and celeron laptops were this low in power consumption but you know how they performed 😂
The performances were pretty much similar on power, but I guess if one is getting a laptop then it makes more sense to go with AMD since the performance dip on the battery is negligible, unlike intel where performance drops in productivity were almost 50%.
But bro its not recommended to be gaming on battery as its decreases the battery life. The people who bought these laptop will obviously use it on AC power
@@armorking481 no. Also some laptops have removable batteries. And you can configure ur laptop to not charge past a certain percentage to have the battery last longer r
Hey guysI need help deciding, I wanna buy my first gaming laptop, I've done a lot of research and decided to go with Asus ROG g513QR but it got sold out faster than I could get it here in my country, there's not much hope for it to be available anytime soon either. So I have 2 options rog g513gc with r7 5800H and rtx 3050ti or legion 5 r7 4800H and rtx 2060 or i7 10750H and 2070 max q (razer, HP Omen, Zephyrus M15). I don't plan on doing heavy gaming, just warzone and games like NFS, but I'm studying Electrical engineering and I need some cpu horsepower for those softwares (circuit design and analysis softwares and...) I would be doing some graphic works too, not heavy stuff, minor animations for ad campaigns and some Photoshop. Maybe a bit of video editing in 4k. What's your suggestion?, I can't go for legion 5 2021 because it's not available in my country nor is 5 pro. The only laptop with 3000 series graphics available is the tuf dash f15 which is not a good choice in a million years... I would be thankful to get y'all opinions on this.
Rog g513gc is actually a good laptop but with few weak points. All ROG laptops have no built-in webcam, as a student, I think you better get something with a built-in webcam for online classes. Then there is the screen, there are 2 types of 1080p screen for this model, the 144hz and the 300hz. The 144hz is garbage, sRGB 62.5% only , means the colour reproduction is going to be awful. The 300hz version is a 100% sRGB panel which is good. And RTX3050Ti is not worth the money in my opinion, it has a measly 4GB of VRAM which is barely enough today. If you want a RTX 3000 series, get at least an RTX3060 . Legion 5 (2020) was voted 1 of the best laptops of last year. You are unlucky that you cannot get the year 2021 version which is quite a bit better than the previous year model. However, I will still pick this over the ROG . If you are an electrical engineering student, your bread and butter software are probably Matlab and Autocad . In education industry, Autocad is free . Matlab scales well with core count, thus the 8 core R7 4800H is miles better than the i7 10750H . 2070 MaxQ is not distinctively faster than a full fledge RTX2060 in terms of performance. Zephyrus M15 is probably not for you. The main selling point of this laptop is the weight, it is below 2kg . As is the same for all ROG laptops, it has no built-in webcam. There is another drawback too which is only 1 RAM slot available , 8GB is soldered to the motherboard. On Asus website, it says it can only supports up to 24GB of RAM which you might need more in future. Many laptops today can take at least 32GB or 64GB of RAM with 2 SODIMM slots.
@@fleurdewin7958 I've had a really tough time finding something that suits my needs, and is within my budget (maximum 1350) I can't get a legion 5 2021 with 3060 as that's either not available or above 1500, other options are zephyrus g14 which again 8gb is soldered to the motherboard, there's omen 15 with I7 10870H (which is not even as good as r7 4800H) and 3060, there's acer predator helios 300 i7 11800H rtx 3060 this is probably the sweet spot for me as the 11800H is close to the r7 5800H. Other options are nitro 5 r7 5800H 3060 (terrible screen and cheap build quality), msi katana i7 11800H 3060 (stupidly cheap build) So simply I'm out of options.
i have same laptop with intel 11400H gen but my gaming performance is not as good as shown in the video is it because i have only single channel ram i already ordered another stick of 8 gig and waiting for it ,will it help to increaser the performance in games or not
Can u tell me a budget worthy gaming laptop under 65,000(k) in India,Iam so confused between between lenevo ideapad gaming3 (ryzen5)about 64 k in india and the hp pavillion gaming i510th gen 144hz ,which has almost same specs and price
hey jarrod , should i take ryzen 5600h gtx 1650 or ryzen 4600h 1650 ti , for fortnite , which is the best option,also what gpu did u test i5 and r5 with
I've also done this comparison with the 8 core Ryzen 7 5800H and Intel i7-11800H options here: ruclips.net/video/wWHGZJYBGQI/видео.html
Another outstanding and informative video. You continue to produce valuable content that isn't available anywhere else. Thank you!
the problem is that in most regions around the world acer is selling this with i5 11300h which is a 4 core processor and in comparison to that, 5600h is an absolute winner in every scenario.
You mean in India right? See get the Asus tuf Gaming F15 in place or nitro 5, it has 11400h plus the screen is 144hz with 3ms response way better than the nitro's 20ms something, plus I think only asus tuf is the only one which give 11400h in place of 11300h thats why i ended up getting the tuf, plus thie year's model got a 90whr battery and way better cooling than last year
@@navasheen8964 well not only in india but also in many asian countries, also yeah ik the tuf is a great buy in terms of specs but am not sure about the thermals on that machine as i have used a 2020 tuf a15 and it get too hot to handle at times.....
That's why Acer huge asshole here in India
@@vanarqwq3660 lol honestly majority of the brands are, like you get a different kind of model branded as India specific which is just shitty....
@@sarthakmishra2752 trust me way better this year got it for 79k and preforms real nice gpu tems don't go above 80 that too hardly touch 80 and cpu stays cool as well, watch some reviews they finally nailed it this year
I was playing cyberpunk at like med-high with dlss balanced and got close to 60fps and tbt hardly went above 80 degrees
Now that's how everyone should compare CPU, GPU or something (with other components of the same specs and the same ram on both machines). Amazing video Jerrod ❤️
Thanks, to be fair it's very hard to do, and often I cannot always do it.
@@JarrodsTech I understand. Clearly it is very hard to make such in-depth comparisons that's why other Ytbers are not doing it. But the fact that you put in so much effort in make these videos is just amazing 🙏🏻❤️
@@JarrodsTech Sir, I have a doubt
Bcoz the integrated graphics used in the i5 11400H is worst compared to the vega 7 graphics in amd ryzen 5 5600H.
For watching movies and for doing smaller gpu bounded works then Ryzen will be better right?
Damn, now this is what competition should be
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i love the color schemes in those graphs … its a war between blue vs red !
currently intel also has advantage of having the thunderbolt 4 for even more future-proof port. maybe very high speed nvme external ssd for editing movie, or extenal gpu.
Man just looking at too laptop with same exact processor and seriously man it helped a lot. Thank you man love your videos , so helpful!!!!!!!
Man i remember when you only had 5k subscribers. I bought my laptop thanks to you channel. Suddenly remember and come back. Growing so fast, happy for you
Be very keen to hear if you ran any results before equalising the ram, namely was there any noticeable improvement running 2 x 16gb. These laptops have an interesting ram setup in some models..
Currently using AMD's 5600H on Legion 5 Gen 6 2021, but I am stoked to see Intel's future ! They seem to have learned from the past, 10nm SuperFin is doing superfine !
All of you video are great!
Thanks jarrod 😀
Jarrods is the King of Laptop Reviews💻
Nice work keep it up!
he's probably the only one in the world that make in-depth review and doesn't only covering $3000 machines. in other words, reviewing laptops that people actually care about
Truth
@@hoangd4132 This is correct. Every damned other reviewer reviews 3080 laptops that cost 3000$. What about the 1000$ laptops
@@SF-li9kh imo those laptops only exist so companies can put all their best technologies in in order to get positive reviews so people would have positive impression on them as a company. but their sales and revenues mainly come from cheaper laptop instead
@@hoangd4132 don't talk as if u know anything about that stuff
Extremely helpful and well presented info! And pretty sweeet In Flames tee too
very good. i want to see this for the Asus Pro DUO intel vs ryzen versions.
While it might not make a difference in the conclusion, but there is something wrong with thermal system for the Ryzen version of this laptop to have thermal throttling at lower power levels.
Wonderful video ...!! I have been searching this for long...Waiting eagerly for the thermal test...!!!☺️
That just went up last night :) ruclips.net/video/eQaDawQ2bLM/видео.html
@@JarrodsTech yeah I saw it.... Wonderful video
This should be interesting to see as I saw the Nitro 5 selling with the 11400h here in Malaysia
Uish...kan..lambat skit la nk masuk...perabih stok lama dlu
@@hasbullahabdullatiff tngok dkt official store dh ada model ni
Jennie
Saya beli Nitro 5 yg i7 10750H … i wonder if the model with Ryzen 7 5800H is better 😭 mcm menyesal pulak beli
Bru ja order model ni tadi.. i5 11400h rtx3060
Hi Jarrod,
Can you please make a video comparing the i9-11900H and Ryzen 9 5900HX? I haven't seen any good video of the comparison yet and it is much needed.
Thanks in advance.
Jarrod never disappoints! Keep it up!!👑
Was finally able to order my Legion 5! $1372 (pre-tax) for 17" legion 5 with 11400h, 16GB RAM, RTX 3060, 512GB SSD, 144Hz, 80Wh. I THINK I got a pretty bangin' deal haha, but it was the best I've seen in a while and it was finally not out of stock so I jumped at the opportunity! Really hoping I like it, and hoping this laptop will last me many years into the future.
Tell me about batteri life how long intull charge?
Thank you for amazing review! How to limit power to 45 Watts? BIOS or Application? Thank you!
It's nice to see intel putting out a competitive cpu offering again.
Thank you Jarrod, this is extremely helpful for uni students/budget gamers
What a nice numbers and performance review for both of these laptops. We all know that intel is really up to the competition of getting ahead from AMD because intel doesn't want to disappoint its own loyal customers in the other hand we also know that AMD loyal customer will defenately stick on using AMD ryzen on their CPU because of its little changes and also considering price differences. I am not in using them both but as what I can see intel trully ahead now but budget gaming laptop is more the best and beast at all🥰
i had an intel i5-8300h and it was always throttling. So with my new laptop I have chosen a Ryzen 5 6600H. We'll see whether that was a good choice
@@newt9105 how has it been?
@@newt9105 how has it been please I need to know considering to buy
This year cpu competition is getting lit🔥🔥
Hey Jarod an idea for u. Not every laptop has good thermal paste application which seems to be the issue here. What u can do is use a thermal camera and check how much heat spread along the cooling system. Too much red on the cpu compared to other laptop may indicate bad paste as it cant easily pull out heat due to bad application.
whoa i found my profile picture
@@GhosteRUclips whoa 😂
Can I reapply thermal paste on a laptop soc and will it help?
@@tylermartin7245 it helps,but it void the warranty so dont do that to your new pc
Excelente video!! Gracias, necesitaba decidir cual de estas 2 configuraciones comprar.
can you tell how much power the cpu hits during gaming or cpu intensive work loads? Is it way above 45W tdp?
Jarrod, we would highly appreciate it if you could review the HP Victus 16 (Ryzen 5800H + RTX 3060).
Man, you are really helpful, love your videos
Glad you like them!
Man, You're my hero!! I was thinking wich one to buy. This is really helpful.
Glad I could help!
I recently ordered the Lenovo 7 Gen 6 with a 5900x, 32 gigs of ram, 3080, 1 Tb ssd, and the shipping date was this November. If you need a laptop for this school year, I recommend not customizing thr laptop and getting a pre-built model. I needed the laptop for school, so I decided to order the 11980hk with all the same specs except for a 2 terabyte SSD, thunderbolt ports, and of course the PCIE Gen 4. I would love to see you do a review on this model, especially since the intel model is more readily available for those of us in the U.S. Maybe a 5900x vs 11980hk comparing thermals, performance, and battery life. Love the reviews Jarrod! Keep it up :)
Ordered the intel a day ago, and it already shipped (will arrive this Thursday).
Hey @JarrodsTech make a review and comparison video for Acer Triton 500 SE
Would really love if you make a clear review on that device
Jarrod do you mind uploading the preset that you used for ryzen controller, and as usuall keep up the good work. Really appreciate your work.
Thanks very much for the comparision
No problem 👍
Great work! Thanks
I am still a bit baffled by one thing that seems to be consistent throughout all the reviewers: Intel and AMD, when set to the same power-limit, seems to draw the same amount of power, the Intel-laptops are often also lower in idle-powerdraw, yet with the same battery-size the AMD-laptops universally last longer.
Is there a problem that Intel is running the cores higher than needed during idle/low-load, like downclocking 4 but letting one run high?
Could be that smaller core are used for Ryzen while on battery while Intel are using the Big Core when on battery as you said.
Cloudy day here in SP... So... I'm gonna take a nap... Oh wait! Better than that! It's Monday! New Jarrod's video! =D
When I recently purchased this same model of Acer Nitro 5, had 2 options of either getting R5 5600H or the i511400H. I chose the I5 one as it was 40$ cheaper.
Actually in my country intel with less ram and less storage was 30$ more expensive then ryzen with more ram and storage
It's the scalpers who are pushing up the Ryzen prices
@@SF-li9kh ...
@@neeleshpuvvada732 noo in mine intel was cheaper same specs
I both are giving same amount of performance if u have intel cheap go for it if ryzen is cheap go for ryzen. but one thing is 11th is more recent thing than ryzen so it have pci gen4 capability so I think intel does the job perfectly but double check that it's a 6 core 11400h not a 4 core 11300h
if it was 1650 or 1660 GPU in those rigs paired with those CPUs... what would be the CPU performance difference for both?
I wonder how they have crippled the cooling in the AMD system. Perhaps you should do a video and re-paste the AMD laptop to confirm!
I want to know how do we enable no power limit tgp of processor in gaming laptop coz I haven't seen one every laptop has 45W tdp I live in India is it that's why or what??? I got confused
Perfect comparison, thank you very much
Glad you liked it!
According to HWInfo64, it seems like my 5900HX Legion 7 is using PCI Express 4.0 in some areas, including the cryptographic co-processor and the lanes to the graphics card. Maybe I am confused or maybe this is another Easter egg worth looking into, but that's what it says. I thought all Ryzen systems were using PCI Express 3.0 only. Maybe somebody can explain, or it's something for Jarrod to figure out.
Tbh I’m not understand some comparison since I’m not that much knowing about hardware but software but this is very informative. Trying to shift to amd for my next upgrade laptop
очень доступно и понятно, помог определиться с выбором покупки, Lenovo17.3" IPS 1920, Intel Core i5-11400H 2.70 ГГц, nVidia GeForce RTX 3060 6 Гб, я за более новый процессор и меньшее тепловыделение, спасибо за обзор, лучшее видео из всего доступного в сети
@@im.Batman 60-70 у меня нагрев
Another top class video 🙂
There were cases when companies use the exactly same design for intel and AMD, and that means that the mount pressure and heatsink design weren't adequate to one or another. I think this was what happened there. Try opening the heatsink and see if thy are exactly the same despite the differences in surface area
CPU surface area*
Thankyou for the honest review...
I get around 10000 points in Cinebench R23 with a Legion 5 with the same 5600H in performance mode (max TDP of 66W for a few seconds and then goes down to 56W), so I think your laptop is just either hard locked to 45W or there's some other kind of throttling going on (I've never been able to hit 90C on the hotspot even running Prime95 for hours).
Yh it’s a thermal problem as my 5800H nitro 5 is only 200 behind the one in jarrods video
in my experience Nitro 5 has always struggled with thermals. I own a 2018 Nitro 5, and it has the worst thermals with same specs on laptops from Lenovo and HP
Only Dell manages to heat up more
@@adityanayak6327 the 2018 ones are Terrible 2019 is a lot better and 2020 is even better
Legion 5 (2021) cooling is quite good!
@@adityanayak6327 You must be mistaken. I've owned two renditions of the Nitro 5 chassis (cir. 2020,2021) both with Ryzen CPUs. The thermals on either generation are excellent. This is without any modification to thermal pastez etc) simple as is out of the box.... The Acer Nitro 5 thermals when equipped with a Ryzen CPU are nothing short of excellent.
Can you tell some good points in choosing a 14 inch vs a 15.6 inch or 16 inch laptop? At similar prices you find Zephyrus G14 or Asus ROG Strix G15 or Lenovo Legion 5 (Pro, with 16"), with similar configurations. The desktop is not an option anymore, so going from there to a laptop, how should we choose? For everyday use, Internet navigation, movies, photo and very light 4K video editing. The power is not a problem with these laptops, but having a small screen and portability of the 14", or the excellent screen of Legion 5Pro but a big size and heavy, especially if from time to time would mean going out with it?
so which did you eventually choose?
Can you give us more details on thermals? I understand that Intel scales more with power, but similar power consumption with the same cooling system should give similar temperatures.. Or not?
I'd like a deeper dive in the cooling differences, checking if the fan profile is different between the two laptops or the thermal interface is more or less effective.
I'm confident you are not biased in your analyses
There will be way more thermal tests in the full review of the Nitro 5 coming this Wednesday.
@@JarrodsTech dude hp omen 15 rtx 3060 review
U can trust at Acer, they made really shit fan control and every mode fan jump to maximum noise, no matter what mode you chosen
@@JarrodsTech can't wait for it! Of course, depending on the sensor placement and due to the chiplet design on AMD, the ccx temperature can well be higher than Intel's package, but I'm surprised to see this big of a difference!
@@JarrodsTech good day sir in this review would you also include the use of external fans such as the cooling pads for laptop if it would really do something? my dad was asking me about this so he could buy some if necessary
Hello Jordan, I appreciate your efforts and reviews.
I am waiting for Review of HP Victus, ( R5 5600H, RTX 3060, 8 GB RAM, 512GB SSD).
Specially, I want to know about the built quality, price to performance ratio.
Love from India
Serious appreciation for your unbiased, objective videos. Thankyou :)
I'm pretty sire RT, 1% low e.t.c. differences are mostly due to PCI-E bandwidth quite honestly
15:32 That is exactly the opposite of reality. With a slower GPU, the CPU matters _less,_ not more, because the GPU is the bottleneck under more circumstances (or maybe even all).
Jared keep rocking..this is the best ever cpu comparision period..all without needless ltt shenanugans..pure deep analytics!!!
100%
I have the AMD version on the way, the Intel version wasn't available and now it seems the AMD version isn't either, at least on Newegg. I may have gotten the last one.
Thank you for the review..I bought Ryzen variant a week ago with RTX3050 Which is ₹80000(expensive) here in india😭
I got the same bro, its performing than my 9th Gen i7. You must have got it from Flipkart. Its a good choice, I got the same for 77K
Hey Jarrod!
I'd be glad if you can review the ASUS ROG Strix G15/ 17
Fr im waiting for the g15
He did it with the advantage edition
@@salmanrasyid5799 yeah, but I want one for Nvidia GPUs because I'm planning to get one
Do you think limiting CPU freq. or lower proc.power.state to 95-90-80% etc. when also using Gigabyte Control Center(Power Saving Mode/Perform.Mode etc.)
can cause incompatibilty? I am with Ryzen 5 5600H Laptop and I had a lot of freezes in win 11 when I started tweaking those stuff. Now I preinstailled win 10 and I got a freeze again, and the only thing I did was change stuff in power settings - set a 3300mhz limit and lower power.proc.state to 95%; Is it possible that the CPU needs that power and temp and freezes, because I limit it?
Given the price difference which one of these two configurations would you pick:
Lenovo Legion 5 15ITH6 i5-11400H 32GB 512SSD RTX3050Ti - US $1 072
or
Lenovo Legion 5 15ACH6 R5 5600H 32GB 512SSD RTX3050 - US $978
Not sure if Thunderbolt 4 is worth paying the difference?
Please make the comparison between ryzen 7 and ryzen 5 processors
Hey Jarrod. Please check the new predator Helios 300 i7 11th gen. They boosted their rtx 3060 to 130w
The prices of intel laptops with less storage and ram are more expensive than amd which makes the amd king
*for now, at this very moment.
That's true with case 5800h vs 11800h but not true with 5600h vs 11400h =))
Then the Scalpers arrived
@@lilith1504 honestly it all depends on the laptop itself on how it is built and by who.
@@lilith1504 yup ointels cpu isnt good after i5 . i5 is stil budget king i guess
Hey! Will some tell me which would be better i5 11400 RTX3050 or 5600h RTX3050 ? In terms of performance like Adobe Products and gaming ? Which one is better. Please help
Would you make a review of MSI gp66 laptop with rtx 3060 GPU?
Hey Jarrod, when you do a battery comparison. If a screen has high refresh rate do you leave it at the high refresh rate (144 Hz, 240 Hzetc) or do you bring it down to 60 Hz to save battery life?
i think for comparisons the important point is to have a fair comparison in this case both screens are 144hz and leaving them at that is fair.
Ryzen die is super small and power dense so when you couple that with a thin, not very smooth, not very high clamping force cold plate that runs only 2 small shared heat pipes to the heatsink, and bad thermal paste, it is no wonder it has some thermal transfer issues. Even on desktop with water cooling ryzen 5000 does not run very cool.
Intel 10nm is a roughly equivalent process node as tsmc 7nm, so both the intel and amd dies should be similarly small and power dense
Amd on mobile is bottlenecked by thermal with better cooling and more space it could be a huge difference
@@neeleshpuvvada732 Jarrod said the opposite in his video though
@@mingyi456 yep, intel's 10nm is even denser than TSMC's 7nm so that's that.
@@edward3709 I don't know about that. I think the ryzen 5000 laptops are using a refined version tsmc 7 mm because the performance on battery is dramatically higher than Intel's while also maintaining an almost 1.7 x battery life
Thanks for the great reviews J! A few days ago I pulled the trigger on the Nitro 5 Ryzen 5 5600H RTX 3060 for just $600 at Walmart and upgraded the memory to 32GB CL22 in dual channel Samsung's x8 AA chips for another $70. It made a huge difference in term of performance!
Is it still available?
@@MOTHIATMAN what is available?
@@agoogleuser2369 the laptop u bought in Walmart. Is it available to purchase now for 600usd?
@@MOTHIATMANit's 650 now. It's still a good deal.
@@agoogleuser2369 can u pls share me the link? I cudnt find the deal
Little difference in performance, big difference in battery life.
Yo bro
And temps...
That sums it up well, if you plan to use your laptop pretty much as a desktop than go Intel. Otherwise AMD is the better laptop CPU choice for me. But at the end of the day, I'd go for the cheaper one if all other specs are identical 😂
Wow now I'm curious about other laptop with both configuration
Your "lower is better" and "higher is better" really help a guy like me, that don't really understand these aspects
Do you think that in 2022 we should be looking for rtx3050 or gtx1650 looking on a budget gaming laptop to use it at least 3 or 4 years?
My friend purchased a day-to-day laptop powered by the i5 1135G7 (no discrete GPU), and I purchased a 'gaming laptop' with a Ryzen 5 4600H + GTX 1650 GDDR6. The difference in our battery life is appalling. He gets 2-3 hours maximum, whereas mine pushes the 5 hour boundary. Not sure if it has to do with CPU or make (Dell and HP, respectively). Our day-to-day workloads are exactly the same (classes, videos, essays, etc.)
I got your laptop by just these words : "Ryzen 5 4600H + GTX 1650 GDDR6" - ASUS TUF A15
@@T7s96 Lol it's a HP Pavilion Gaming. I've literally mentioned that it's a HP in the original comment
So I was looking for a video comparison between the i5 11400H and the R5 and damn this video is great. I'm actually planning to buy a gaming laptop soon. I have one on sight which is a Lenovo IdeaPad Gaming 3, R5 5600H, 8GB RAM, RTX 3050 TI and 256GB SSD @ $650. Do you recommend it, is it a good deal/purchase?
Thanks for the another awesome review! It got me surprised that Intel is taking the lead, but the price is much higher energy consumption.
but not in india here bith are same
I don't know about that. I think the ryzen 5000 laptops are using a refined version tsmc 7 mm because the performance on battery is dramatically higher than Intel's while also maintaining an almost 1.7 x battery life
@@NadeemAhmed-nv2br batterly i dont know but here in india both cpus price are same i mean laptops
Both AMD and Intel are decent options to me, depends on the buyer’s choice like you said.
Edit: like battery life for example.
And also intel laptops usually have higher price.
Intel little bit better than AMD in gaming, but has higher price at same specs.
What did his used to limit the tgb on ryzen processor please tell me?
@@vanarqwq3660 ryzen controller but I recommend AATU
@@carlo6985 mhm that’s exactly tho rc has a more simple UI but AATu has more features suited for more laptops
1:04 - Whoever says that AMD's 7nm runs cooler than Intel's 10nm... Should take a look at the results lol.
I think you should retest several comparisons, using lenovo legion 5 pro and 7 notebooks(It's all my opinion, please do not swear) because off best cooling systems:
- ryzen 5 5600h vs intel i5-11400h in legion 5 pro;
- ryzen 7 5800h vs intel i7-11800h in legion 7;
- ryzen 9 5900HX vs intel i9-11980HK in legion 7.
But for what? Intel i7-11800h almost catches up, and sometimes is faster than 5900HX especially in games.
@@S3lix0 It will shows real difference between two CPU in all tests because of best cooling systems. MAX fair comparisons.
@@anisimovdenis25 you have results on legion 5/5pro with amd or intel and 7 amd and 7i r5 5800h vs i7-11800h etc in reedit.
@@S3lix0 link to the studio
@@anisimovdenis25 ты думаешь так говорят?))
Sir , which will be a great for editing in after effects or premer??
:) (:
Consider doing hp omen 15 rtx 3060 ryzen 5 review!!!
@Ahmad exactly what I thought
you should check his youtube channel before commenting
@@OrRaino kindly go and check before suggesting some random guy🙏 I mentioned ryzen 5 and rtx 3060 while he did with rtx3070 ryzen 7. Kindly apply your suggestion to your comment 🙏.
@Ahmad exactly what I thought but his configuration had 3070 with tgp of 100watts but i asked for 3060 with tgp of same 100 watts this can show some effect on battery performance and probably gaming too.
How can you take advantage of the Vega 7 APU in Ryzen? Is this turning into a waste or can you configure something on it?
My ryzen 5 4600H laptop sucks about 8watts of power on battery in general usage which blows me away considering it works just as snappy when plugged in. My old pentium and celeron laptops were this low in power consumption but you know how they performed 😂
7:29 Where I can download Excel Large Number Crunching Test file?
Are you going to do a 5600h vs 5800h video?
how do you use cpu with no power limit? isnt it limited to 45w?
Hi, can anyone suggest here which is best for machine learning with good battery backup from above intel and ryzen configuration. thanks
The one wondertrick no one seems to know is reducing the processory maximum power in energy settings to 99%. Fixes it all.
Wait how so
Jesus - this is a very explicit video, nice work.
The performances were pretty much similar on power, but I guess if one is getting a laptop then it makes more sense to go with AMD since the performance dip on the battery is negligible, unlike intel where performance drops in productivity were almost 50%.
Amd also lasts 2x on battery
But bro its not recommended to be gaming on battery as its decreases the battery life.
The people who bought these laptop will obviously use it on AC power
@@harshsingh6137 doesnt heavy gaming while charging laptop damages its battery?...
@@armorking481 no. Also some laptops have removable batteries. And you can configure ur laptop to not charge past a certain percentage to have the battery last longer r
Hey guysI need help deciding, I wanna buy my first gaming laptop, I've done a lot of research and decided to go with Asus ROG g513QR but it got sold out faster than I could get it here in my country, there's not much hope for it to be available anytime soon either. So I have 2 options rog g513gc with r7 5800H and rtx 3050ti or legion 5 r7 4800H and rtx 2060 or i7 10750H and 2070 max q (razer, HP Omen, Zephyrus M15).
I don't plan on doing heavy gaming, just warzone and games like NFS, but I'm studying Electrical engineering and I need some cpu horsepower for those softwares (circuit design and analysis softwares and...) I would be doing some graphic works too, not heavy stuff, minor animations for ad campaigns and some Photoshop. Maybe a bit of video editing in 4k.
What's your suggestion?, I can't go for legion 5 2021 because it's not available in my country nor is 5 pro. The only laptop with 3000 series graphics available is the tuf dash f15 which is not a good choice in a million years...
I would be thankful to get y'all opinions on this.
Rog g513gc is actually a good laptop but with few weak points. All ROG laptops have no built-in webcam, as a student, I think you better get something with a built-in webcam for online classes. Then there is the screen, there are 2 types of 1080p screen for this model, the 144hz and the 300hz. The 144hz is garbage, sRGB 62.5% only , means the colour reproduction is going to be awful. The 300hz version is a 100% sRGB panel which is good. And RTX3050Ti is not worth the money in my opinion, it has a measly 4GB of VRAM which is barely enough today. If you want a RTX 3000 series, get at least an RTX3060 .
Legion 5 (2020) was voted 1 of the best laptops of last year. You are unlucky that you cannot get the year 2021 version which is quite a bit better than the previous year model. However, I will still pick this over the ROG .
If you are an electrical engineering student, your bread and butter software are probably Matlab and Autocad . In education industry, Autocad is free . Matlab scales well with core count, thus the 8 core R7 4800H is miles better than the i7 10750H . 2070 MaxQ is not distinctively faster than a full fledge RTX2060 in terms of performance.
Zephyrus M15 is probably not for you. The main selling point of this laptop is the weight, it is below 2kg . As is the same for all ROG laptops, it has no built-in webcam. There is another drawback too which is only 1 RAM slot available , 8GB is soldered to the motherboard. On Asus website, it says it can only supports up to 24GB of RAM which you might need more in future. Many laptops today can take at least 32GB or 64GB of RAM with 2 SODIMM slots.
@@fleurdewin7958 I've had a really tough time finding something that suits my needs, and is within my budget (maximum 1350)
I can't get a legion 5 2021 with 3060 as that's either not available or above 1500, other options are zephyrus g14 which again 8gb is soldered to the motherboard, there's omen 15 with I7 10870H (which is not even as good as r7 4800H) and 3060, there's acer predator helios 300 i7 11800H rtx 3060 this is probably the sweet spot for me as the 11800H is close to the r7 5800H.
Other options are nitro 5 r7 5800H 3060 (terrible screen and cheap build quality), msi katana i7 11800H 3060 (stupidly cheap build)
So simply I'm out of options.
Is the acer thermal solution actually able to showcase these two CPU though?
Maybe a retest with some more data would be more conclusive
what are u talking about
Which would you recommend for using vst such as omnipshere/massive/kontakt?
i have same laptop with intel 11400H gen but my gaming performance is not as good as shown in the video is it because i have only single channel ram i already ordered another stick of 8 gig and waiting for it ,will it help to increaser the performance in games or not
Can u tell me a budget worthy gaming laptop under 65,000(k) in India,Iam so confused between between lenevo ideapad gaming3 (ryzen5)about 64 k in india and the hp pavillion gaming i510th gen 144hz ,which has almost same specs and price
Jarrod pls compare strix advantage with legion 5 pro
Hi bro i am from Tamil nadu suggest me which processor best for 3D modeling and rendering like revit , vray software
i5 11th gen or ryzen 5 5600
hey jarrod , should i take ryzen 5600h gtx 1650 or ryzen 4600h 1650 ti , for fortnite , which is the best option,also what gpu did u test i5 and r5 with