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you had me at hello games but maybe we could take some points in what everyone feels minecraft has always been missing for these massive worlds and that is structures like i wouldnt mind them as rare as in minecraft but i mean anyone remember the charm of old school runescape the vampires the elfs the barrows and the medevil fantasy vibe not the dorky thing they made now that ignored what they use to be even a joke quest back then felt like it was interesting in its plot devices even by todays standers slayer back in the day vs some of the more modern dialogue choices if gaming is a art then wouldnt you expect you would at least uniform that art vs constantly being this chaotic all over the place mess that most mmorpgs become that disgusts me because they lost their conform
Im pretty sure they've already said its one world for everyone not one for each person and they can invite friends to join their world. Which seems even cooler. It will be like an mmorpg in a world as big as the earth where cities made entirely by players will be possible and because its so much bigger than anything made before exploration of new unknown areas will always be possible.
Please God no PvP...and if they do, make it flagged or just give the PvPers their own servers. While I know most PvPers are skilled players and do PvP the right way, theres a ton more who are just griefers and enjoy destroying and camping cause they cant compete with real PvPers. Its always some bad apples that ruin the bunch and I would hate to see this game go down in flames because of it.
@@Psionicon Probably no PvP. Enshrouded has no PvP because they just don't have the time & energy to deal with fixing exploits and griefer tactics, so it's strictly PvE. I am sure Hello Games is smart enough to follow suit for the sake of accessibility and longevity. Best case scenario, we see PvP zones which IMO makes a lot more sense than the way Rust or Ark does things.
I am not sure I agree with the different "Earths" for every player and every new game. They said that they are building one planet for people to share.
@@unknownuser3000 ? No mans sky is absolutely shared with all the players (now anyways). You may only see up to 32 other players at once, but the world/universe is the same no matter what. I don't seem them doing it differently for LNF based on how they presented it.
I mean, do you want space travel to different planets in a fantasy genre? Their planets before were kinda barren- very "wide" and spread out, and very round. Wouldn't it be cooler if there was a much bigger single planet with a shitton of random generation as you explore it?
Even if it is buggy at launch - I'm prepared to put my money behind HG because I know they will stick to the plan, match it and then exceed it. They got my cash.
Same here. I refunded NMS when it first came out and I wish I never did that, but the game was terrible at launch and I thought they were not going to do anything with it.
@@ComdrStew I did as well, sadly for me I had the bug where you would get stuck at the loading screen. I bought it again in 2019 and have put a couple hundred hours. It's pretty fun and there's a lot to do for sure.
If there is one studio I trust not to make their second game like the first, it's Hello Games. They've proved they care about content, so it's hard to be worried about this one flopping out of the game. I don't expect Witcher 4 to release like Cyberpunk and I don't expect LNF to release like NMS.
@@verdantbabble5498Agreed. The simple fact that they updated NMS for free over 7 years, without any micro transactions, should strongly suggest they care about their projects.
No Man's Sky never really captured my attention, but this one with all the different biomes and fantasy elements looks amazing. Especially the animal characters and mounts. I'm cautiously optimistic and look forward to more coverage of this game going forward.
I don't think it's a different seed per world situation, we'll all share the same seed and play together in shared instances. Hopefully it's around 30 or more. Not saying it's impossible to be the other way around but the game was pitched differently. Also those aren't hummingbirds... They're kingfishers.
I'm unapologetically on the hype train for this. I finally got into NMS this year using the psvr2 and have had so much freaking fun playing it. To me Hello games has gone above and beyond saving that game, so I'm hoping now that they've learned their lesson they are confidently releasing this knowing it's ready.
NMS on PSVR2 is sooo damn good. I was gobsmacked by how easy it is to play (control wise) and repairing your ship for the first time and taking off is like nothing else.
Hello Games are all programmers and nerds, they can't socialize properly and that led to their downfall really in the early days. They are only good at what they do best and that's working out better for them. Don't make excuses, just put your head down and work to make things better.
Its fits how the fantasy setting brings a lot of life in NMS procedurally generated formula, Talk about an adventure ie: isolated towns, taverns, accepting hunt bounties, hiring mercenaries, camping, cave, monsters, crafting, etc.
i dont think there will be different world seed for different players. all will be playing on the same seed just like no man's sky. they specifically said that all will be playing together.
Yes one world the actual size of earth which is about 2 million square miles, not each new game creating a world. Every player will be on the same planet just like everyone in NMS is in one shared universe.
Not exactly. They are likely using the same dynamic lobby system as No Man's Sky. If you played offline you could get a completely different result in the same spot as someone in online.
I'm remaining cautiously optimistic for this. I hope HG and Sony learn from the mistakes that were made with NMS (ie releasing too early). I don't want to get hyped too much just in case, but it does look very interesting indeed!!
Makanikeiki right, Sony was paying for marketing and had a deal for a timed exclusive launch so they were locked into a launch date. Didn't help their studio flooded and they basically had to start over. This time I bet they go pc first then to consoles.
*Enshrouded* and No Man's Earth- I mean.. *No Light Fire* are the first two game got my hype this year. One fear i have for No Light Fire is that they may hype us a bit too early, just something I think about, nothing bad about it.
Yeah, that can be kinda odd, but as long as they don't give spoilers too often, we're safe. Overhyping have lead quite a few great games to suddent deaths.
I think, unlike what happened with No Man's Sky, they learned lesson about hyping what they don't have yet. I'm not alone in thinking they've got a very close to ready for launch project already.
【Shades Finnish Pirates】What i got from this trailer was the presence of skeleton, i sent a suggestion to the devs with a hope of having humanoid enemies to fight and i specified that skelton do not count. I asked for living, breathing and thinking humanoid enemies to fight on. I asked for the devs to consider more about the fantasy dream rather than a good PG rating, the kids of today go from game to game as the windblows and the older gamer audience sets out roots on a game like this and can stay for years but no matter how great the game is / looks if the're are only monsters / undead to kill i will not get this game as i have already learned from NMS that having no honorable opponents to kill in a game makes the game something that i myself am not so much into & i've talked with a player who's been playin the game from the start thus i can provide his direct quote "Give us something to kill" i too stand by this statement. Killing humanoids is a must in game!
I don't think it's going to be separate worlds unless you have one for yourself saved in offline or can have your own server like in Valheim. If they use the mechanics from No Man's Sky, it will be - 1. Multiplayer, you can see other people and their builds. 2. Single-player, you see the builds of other players, but not the players. 3. Offline, it's all only you and your stuff. No Man's Sky does not have private servers like Valheim allows, but you never know what the future brings.
Years ago, a boardgame came out that did something similar: you got a random adventure in the box. The result was that moat people were unhappy about the game, bc they heard about someone else’s cool adventure while most just got a mid story out of it. I wonder how they solved this, bc this may not a be procedural problem, but a social problem; but it will reflect on the success of the games.
You are giving the Gaming Community Far too much Credit in General, if they get a Hot and Skinpy CC with Clothes to match and cool Shinies to Equip nothing else will matter.
Love to see bird mounts from other parts of the world. Like the Australian blue splendid wren or the cheeky willy wagtail along with so many others. Such as red robins, silver eyes, bee eaters to name a few.
I also saw a wolf, beaver, bear, and what I assume is a deer? And maybe an elf or two! This could be a very beautiful world to inhabit! Oh! And the blue and orange is a kingfisher, not a hummingbird!
Good video. Other than they've stated that the planet is just one single planet that everyone shares. There won't be individual worlds for everyone. Just one planet. The world being procedural doesn't mean it will have a different seed for everyone. Just that the initial world that everyone shares has been created procedurally.
They said that a team of around 20 people worked on it for 5 years and adding mechanics from No Man Sky in it, which means 1. The game is in its later stages of development, 2. The game has already tested mechanics which are taken form their other game. For me those 2 are good points and the only reason why I am willing to hype if only just a little. What worries me are the melee combat (they haven't done this before so its a bit of a new field for them) and the procedural generation of the planet which they said it will be close to real planet which I don't buy, but it will be interesting to be at least 4-5 times bigger than those in No Man Sky. The procedural generation of such a planet will be a bit different than the one they do on the planets in no man sky because there you have phases of jumping from a planet to cosmos then to another planet, here you don't have that and it could spell a problem. Still too early too judge so we will wait and see what will come out in the end.
Definitely interested, and while I applaud Hello Games for turning NMS around so amazingly well, we can't forget what happened on release. So when it comes to this game I'll probably be waiting for reviews or whenever my friends are up for a new open world survival game to sink our teeth in.
i thought they said this was gonna be one big Earth 1:1 ratio where everyone is on this same world? I didn't know if I make a character I will have a whole different world compared to my friends. I'm sure this is correct. It's the same world for everyone. Also No Man Sky works this way. Procedural planets however it's the same planets for whoever goes on it
While everyone is "technically" on the same planet, you only actually connect to players that are near you in the game world. It's not gonna be millions of players on a singlr server, it will likely be the same dynamic lobby system from No Man's Sky
It's hard to explain how it seems apparent many tricks used for mobile games are now being used for full sized 'MMO's' since the rendering is good enough that it's the textures which sell the experience, not the detail.
Getting almost the same feeling I had when seeing the first NMS trailer 10yrs ago! Give me a giant bird if prey mount like a hawk or owl rockin a cat type avatar and look out
Technically they are Wyverns. Drakes are 4 legged wingless dragons. More modernly Drakes can also include juvenile dragons. Yes i know games & movies constantly get it wrong.
Light No Fire is almost certainly going to be a shared world. With no one having single player worlds that they invite friends to. It's going to be a single massive planet, like an MMORPG, with a persistent world that everyone lives in together. And people will just spread out and explore and build things. We'll probably start on the LNF planet in general relation to our real life geographical region. And if want to play with someone from another country, we'll have to find a way to get there. Like fast traveling teleports, or flying mounts for literal days to get there. That would be amazing.
Incorrect. Steam page already confirmed Singleplayer. People won't actually connect unless they are near eachother in the game world, similar to No Man's Sky. The planet does not have the same continents as the IRL earth, everyone starts in a random location.
As a returning player of NMS each time it drop a big update, then uninstall as soon as I figure Ive already fulfilled my wanderlust in game. Light no Fire will reignite that 🔥
Yeah I dont think its gonna be a different planet for each player. It would literally be the opposite of what they did with NMS and the reality is that the simple answer tends to be the correct one. The simple answer here is that its procedurally generated based on coordinates just like NMS is. That means a mountain at a certain location will always be there for any player because its based on a math equation. This lets them make a massive planet with some consistency just like NMS. This is important for base building. If you build on a mountain and someone randomly comes to your base, it would be a problem if that mountain didn't exist for that player.
I like the idea of a one planet game but I wish someone would make a planet size game of black desert online because I love the combat in that game but I doubt it’ll happen
My only fear right now is if they take building in the direction of "The Forest." While I enjoyed the game and I had fun playing and defending my homes, I personally found that the material gathering was tedious. Having to carry a limited amount of materials (2 Logs) to a building that required around 50 of them, honestly made me drop the game faster than everything else it had. And don't even get me started on "The Forest 2" that made building even more tedious by removing the cart that you could use in the first game (Which was a godsend in the first one, but still didn't make up the grinding) and for making you break the pieces to place them and if you broke it off in the wrong place now you had to start over with it. Also, to the character creation, I really hope that the different races aren't just cosmetic. I would love to see racial specific traits like Otters having more movespeed on the water, whille rabbits have more jump height potential for exploring.
I can't wait for this game to be released so I can wait for critic and player reviews to see if it's all just hype, a broken mess, or a masterpiece. Then I can make an informed buying decision.
I was hyped..and then I remember Sean Murray lied to a level nevera seen before when he was doing No Mans Sky talks just a few years back. So I don't believe nothing about this game until it come out and everything turns to be truth. Just because years latter they "fix it" doesnt change the fact that what Sean Murray and Hello Games did with NMS marketing was almost criminal.
It's also single player, which are the only games I play. Graphics and fantasy elements look good, but if I decide to purchase the game, it will be when the game goes on sale. This game just does not draw me in like "Crimson Desert", that will be a definite pre-order game. I even have "Where Winds Meet" and "Exodus" higher on my list than "Light No Fire". Fortunatelly, there are always games being made and released to satisfy players of all game genres.
so... here's my take and heavy spoiler warning for NMS if you haven't played through either of the two story paths, but... every player is probably going to start on the same procedural earth and through the story you'll discover some ritual/procedure to move between the different seeds for this rng earth like the center of the galaxy does in NMS and how there are 255 galaxies you can cycle through in NMS. My bet, just given HG's history in how they added new stuff to NMS in the past, the two games will probably be more similar than people will want to admit. Yeah there will be differences such as say using armor pieces to give environmental protection instead of suit mods, magic instead of a terrain manipulator, stuff like that, but ultimately I bet it'll feel like a skin swap to long time NMS fans. I do have a bit of hope though and do plan to pick it up at launch so I can explore the procedural world because as a low vision gamer, they've done right by me by adding very good accessibility features.
I believe there will be fast travel of some sort. Maybe even how Valheim does it. You would about have too as large as the world will seem to be. I think building even motorized machines for carrying, maybe even caravans for making money much like in some city builders. Seems like the sky is the limit for this game and anything could be possible as far as mounts go. Might even be able to build some sort of mech for battling bosses, etc, etc... Also, please God no PvP! And if they do implement it, make it flagged or give the griefers their own server(s)...
The main problem with LNF is the fact that they did not learn a single thing from their bad decisions with NMS's flight mechanics and are using the exact same flight model for the creatures in LNF. The exact same terrible mechanics. Take-off and landing are both a button prompt with a fixed animation, and the controls are extremely arcade and slow. Unless they copy GW2 flight mechanics, I'm giving this a miss. I cannot stand bad flight mechanics. NMS is such a fun game, but the flight makes it so fucking frustrating. Looks like they failed with LNF, too.
Looks so similar to NMS. I mean, the trailer is all walking around showing off flora and fauna... Same thing happened before NMS release, all these trailers showed walking and looking at things, rarely doing anything really.
My guy, while Ark is very controversial and janky, it is a very complex game. I really don't think this will be anything at all like Ark with the complexities of dino taming, breeding, mutations, extrem focus on survival mechanics like eating, temperature etc. Besides an open world setting I really don't see any similarities at all to Ark.
@stonaraptor8196 There's base building, mount taming, exploration, food a s resource management. If all you saw was open world, consider getting your eyes checked.
A minor point of contention, and a major one. It's a kingfisher, not a humming bird, but guessing their are many more mounts the are hiding, along with the player races. Also there are fantasy player races in the trailer, Satyr and Faun, so guessing their are others they are hidings, maybe still elves etc too. The major thing I disagree with is your procedural take. I do not think it will be like Valheim where every new game is a new world. He said one planet the size of earth. No Man's Sky is one pre-procedurally generated universe where everyone's Euclid galaxy is the same and shared. No matter how many players play, the same planet is always the same. This is why everyone can go get the same crashed exotic ships. LNF will be the same. One planet shared by every player, every new game on the same world in a random spot, starting in the temperate zones. There will be coordinates and fast travel points you can build to get to the more populated areas, but this is one world the size of Earth not each player getting their own version of the world. Instead of 4 quintillion planets, you'll have about 2 million square miles to explore. So even after ten years it'll be easy to find lonely space on the planet if you want to. Everything will be there before anyone plays the game.
If it’s a true world then people need to stop thinking about biomes and more about continents. Scotland is the size of Michigan for example and itself features at least 4 biomes itself. Not to mention different creatures from other countries even within the continent. People are thinking to small it’s not just a small area with different biomes or is a complete failure being true world.
I wish this wasn’t medieval fantasy themed… I would much prefer a post-apocalyptic or futuristic world. Also the style is too cartoony. Too similar to NMS.
A game way back when called Aion gave me the same vibes as this game a negative vibe.You see th efirst thing I noticed was the flying around and I stated that people were going to make a mock of the game and everyone will be flying around and yeah that happened to the point people were making sales stalls up in the sky on trees on top of buildings etc etc. So when I see these flying mounts I feel like the ground world will be avoided because everyone is going to be flying around in the air avoiding the ground and there will likely be a lot of silliness that comes with it. Furthermore NMS never had the team or vision to bring that game to it's fullest potential it became a stagnant boring game after a few years.So we have to ask ourselves did this guy make THAT much money from NMS sky that he coudl actually hire a larger team more skilled people to make a better game?IMO nope but much more likely is many of thesame assets will be rehashed reskinned so this will come off more as a NMS mod than a new fully fledged game. So I did a quick search and yeah it seems Light No Sky is using the same engine as NMS so yeah I expect a mod slapped onto NMS type game.For many that might be plenty good for me NMS was never good enough to play so I need to see MUCH better.
The planet will be procedurally generated to make the Earth, but this is supposed to be a multiplayer online game. It is going to be the same planet for every single player but to get the planet they use their procedural generation software. Not everyone or every save is going to be a different planet. It's all going to be the same one
This looks great and very exciting. However, this likely won't be a "questy" kind of game, if that's what some players may be hoping for. If you're an end-game player of NMS, you know what this means. Players need to be self motivated enough to create their own objectives. The player needs to decide to explore, to build, or even play. There's no breadcrumb or multifaceted questing. Even reputation gains don't mean much, especially in endgame. Additionally, I hope LNF has a usefulness for food crafting, which is sorely lacking in NMS. We'll have to wait and see.
Incorrect. This is not an MMO, it is a survival/crafting game. Singleplayer was confirmed via Steam, party size is 4 players and you only connect to people that are nearby in the game world. Its not gonna be millions of players on a single server. Likely the same dynamic lobby system as No Man's Sky.
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you had me at hello games but maybe we could take some points in what everyone feels minecraft has always been missing for these massive worlds and that is structures like i wouldnt mind them as rare as in minecraft but i mean anyone remember the charm of old school runescape the vampires the elfs the barrows and the medevil fantasy vibe not the dorky thing they made now that ignored what they use to be even a joke quest back then felt like it was interesting in its plot devices even by todays standers slayer back in the day vs some of the more modern dialogue choices if gaming is a art then wouldnt you expect you would at least uniform that art vs constantly being this chaotic all over the place mess that most mmorpgs become that disgusts me because they lost their conform
Im pretty sure they've already said its one world for everyone not one for each person and they can invite friends to join their world. Which seems even cooler. It will be like an mmorpg in a world as big as the earth where cities made entirely by players will be possible and because its so much bigger than anything made before exploration of new unknown areas will always be possible.
I guess I'd be segmented/sectoral/hub-like or what term fits, like an MMO. 🤔
Please God no PvP...and if they do, make it flagged or just give the PvPers their own servers. While I know most PvPers are skilled players and do PvP the right way, theres a ton more who are just griefers and enjoy destroying and camping cause they cant compete with real PvPers. Its always some bad apples that ruin the bunch and I would hate to see this game go down in flames because of it.
@@Psionicon Probably no PvP. Enshrouded has no PvP because they just don't have the time & energy to deal with fixing exploits and griefer tactics, so it's strictly PvE. I am sure Hello Games is smart enough to follow suit for the sake of accessibility and longevity. Best case scenario, we see PvP zones which IMO makes a lot more sense than the way Rust or Ark does things.
@@The_Man_In_Red I’ve never heard of PvP zones but that concept sounds absolutely amazing. I would hope this game takes that route.
@@Legendary_Levite I think the one most people know about / can relate to would be Runescape. There's no PvP unless you go into the Wilderness.
I am not sure I agree with the different "Earths" for every player and every new game. They said that they are building one planet for people to share.
Then there is the game they claim has 16000 player games. Developers are idiotic liars.
300 thousand square miles and 128 players lol
Yeah, no word on how many players will be loaded in together in a certain proximity. But it's basically an always online shared world.
@@unknownuser3000 ? No mans sky is absolutely shared with all the players (now anyways). You may only see up to 32 other players at once, but the world/universe is the same no matter what. I don't seem them doing it differently for LNF based on how they presented it.
I mean, do you want space travel to different planets in a fantasy genre? Their planets before were kinda barren- very "wide" and spread out, and very round. Wouldn't it be cooler if there was a much bigger single planet with a shitton of random generation as you explore it?
Even if it is buggy at launch - I'm prepared to put my money behind HG because I know they will stick to the plan, match it and then exceed it. They got my cash.
Same here. I refunded NMS when it first came out and I wish I never did that, but the game was terrible at launch and I thought they were not going to do anything with it.
@@ComdrStew I did as well, sadly for me I had the bug where you would get stuck at the loading screen. I bought it again in 2019 and have put a couple hundred hours. It's pretty fun and there's a lot to do for sure.
@@The_Man_In_Red Really good in VR also. My friend could see my head and arms moving around lol
If there is one studio I trust not to make their second game like the first, it's Hello Games. They've proved they care about content, so it's hard to be worried about this one flopping out of the game. I don't expect Witcher 4 to release like Cyberpunk and I don't expect LNF to release like NMS.
@@verdantbabble5498Agreed. The simple fact that they updated NMS for free over 7 years, without any micro transactions, should strongly suggest they care about their projects.
No Man's Sky never really captured my attention, but this one with all the different biomes and fantasy elements looks amazing. Especially the animal characters and mounts. I'm cautiously optimistic and look forward to more coverage of this game going forward.
Same that fantasy setting for me is more captivating and alive*
I don't think it's a different seed per world situation, we'll all share the same seed and play together in shared instances. Hopefully it's around 30 or more. Not saying it's impossible to be the other way around but the game was pitched differently. Also those aren't hummingbirds... They're kingfishers.
This dude busting out with the ornithology skills. hahah. Get it right ya noobs. ;)
People don't mind it not being procedural generated so long as the world is big enough.
Yeah I kept seeing people call them hummingbirds. Kingfisher erasure 😂
I'm unapologetically on the hype train for this. I finally got into NMS this year using the psvr2 and have had so much freaking fun playing it. To me Hello games has gone above and beyond saving that game, so I'm hoping now that they've learned their lesson they are confidently releasing this knowing it's ready.
NMS on psvr2 is unmatched. One of my best experiences in gaming ever.
@@TheDogTako right? i cant play it in 2d anymore, i've tried and i just cant. VR is the only way for me to enjoy it now
NMS on PSVR2 is sooo damn good. I was gobsmacked by how easy it is to play (control wise) and repairing your ship for the first time and taking off is like nothing else.
Hello Games are all programmers and nerds, they can't socialize properly and that led to their downfall really in the early days. They are only good at what they do best and that's working out better for them.
Don't make excuses, just put your head down and work to make things better.
Its fits how the fantasy setting brings a lot of life in NMS procedurally generated formula, Talk about an adventure ie: isolated towns, taverns, accepting hunt bounties, hiring mercenaries, camping, cave, monsters, crafting, etc.
i dont think there will be different world seed for different players. all will be playing on the same seed just like no man's sky. they specifically said that all will be playing together.
Yes one world the actual size of earth which is about 2 million square miles, not each new game creating a world. Every player will be on the same planet just like everyone in NMS is in one shared universe.
Not exactly. They are likely using the same dynamic lobby system as No Man's Sky. If you played offline you could get a completely different result in the same spot as someone in online.
I'm remaining cautiously optimistic for this. I hope HG and Sony learn from the mistakes that were made with NMS (ie releasing too early). I don't want to get hyped too much just in case, but it does look very interesting indeed!!
I don't believe Sony is in the picture anymore. I think that was part of the failure of NMS was Sony rushed HG to publish it before it was ready.
I haven't heard a peep about Sony being involved. I think Hello Games learned a hard lesson there.
Makanikeiki right, Sony was paying for marketing and had a deal for a timed exclusive launch so they were locked into a launch date. Didn't help their studio flooded and they basically had to start over. This time I bet they go pc first then to consoles.
*Enshrouded* and No Man's Earth- I mean.. *No Light Fire* are the first two game got my hype this year.
One fear i have for No Light Fire is that they may hype us a bit too early, just something I think about, nothing bad about it.
Yeah, that can be kinda odd, but as long as they don't give spoilers too often, we're safe. Overhyping have lead quite a few great games to suddent deaths.
I think, unlike what happened with No Man's Sky, they learned lesson about hyping what they don't have yet. I'm not alone in thinking they've got a very close to ready for launch project already.
【Shades Finnish Pirates】What i got from this trailer was the presence of skeleton, i sent a suggestion to the devs with a hope of having humanoid enemies to fight and i specified that skelton do not count. I asked for living, breathing and thinking humanoid enemies to fight on. I asked for the devs to consider more about the fantasy dream rather than a good PG rating, the kids of today go from game to game as the windblows and the older gamer audience sets out roots on a game like this and can stay for years but no matter how great the game is / looks if the're are only monsters / undead to kill i will not get this game as i have already learned from NMS that having no honorable opponents to kill in a game makes the game something that i myself am not so much into & i've talked with a player who's been playin the game from the start thus i can provide his direct quote "Give us something to kill" i too stand by this statement. Killing humanoids is a must in game!
One game I can not wait to play. I think they have learned a lot from NMS and I think it will be a very good game.
I love the idea of these characters being animalistic. It feels like it's been inspired by the Wind in the Willows, a book I loved reading as a kid.
I like how its spring and fall at the same time when you look at the trees
It is a real thing. Marple trees tend to have red leaves instead of green.
I don't think it's going to be separate worlds unless you have one for yourself saved in offline or can have your own server like in Valheim. If they use the mechanics from No Man's Sky, it will be - 1. Multiplayer, you can see other people and their builds. 2. Single-player, you see the builds of other players, but not the players. 3. Offline, it's all only you and your stuff. No Man's Sky does not have private servers like Valheim allows, but you never know what the future brings.
Years ago, a boardgame came out that did something similar: you got a random adventure in the box. The result was that moat people were unhappy about the game, bc they heard about someone else’s cool adventure while most just got a mid story out of it. I wonder how they solved this, bc this may not a be procedural problem, but a social problem; but it will reflect on the success of the games.
You are giving the Gaming Community Far too much Credit in General, if they get a Hot and Skinpy CC with Clothes to match and cool Shinies to Equip nothing else will matter.
The kingfisher and starling mounts are really cool, haven't seen anything like that in a game. Would love to ride the dragons as well
Looking forward to Enshrouded, enjoyed the demo. Also Nightingale.
Hyped for this game. I'll choose a lush island to live on if possible. I'd also like a goat mount to stick to steep mountains
Love to see bird mounts from other parts of the world. Like the Australian blue splendid wren or the cheeky willy wagtail along with so many others. Such as red robins, silver eyes, bee eaters to name a few.
It would be cool if there will be varying size inventories for each kind of mount, depending on which one the player is using.
I also saw a wolf, beaver, bear, and what I assume is a deer? And maybe an elf or two! This could be a very beautiful world to inhabit!
Oh! And the blue and orange is a kingfisher, not a hummingbird!
The mounts was the thing that stayed in my eye at Game Awards. From a funy bird to a mighty Dragon: "This has potential"
Good video. Other than they've stated that the planet is just one single planet that everyone shares. There won't be individual worlds for everyone. Just one planet. The world being procedural doesn't mean it will have a different seed for everyone. Just that the initial world that everyone shares has been created procedurally.
I'm sold, let's go! 😊
Appreciate this. What people want to hear and why they want to hear it. Good mic quality. Poggers
They said that a team of around 20 people worked on it for 5 years and adding mechanics from No Man Sky in it, which means 1. The game is in its later stages of development, 2. The game has already tested mechanics which are taken form their other game. For me those 2 are good points and the only reason why I am willing to hype if only just a little. What worries me are the melee combat (they haven't done this before so its a bit of a new field for them) and the procedural generation of the planet which they said it will be close to real planet which I don't buy, but it will be interesting to be at least 4-5 times bigger than those in No Man Sky. The procedural generation of such a planet will be a bit different than the one they do on the planets in no man sky because there you have phases of jumping from a planet to cosmos then to another planet, here you don't have that and it could spell a problem. Still too early too judge so we will wait and see what will come out in the end.
Definitely interested, and while I applaud Hello Games for turning NMS around so amazingly well, we can't forget what happened on release. So when it comes to this game I'll probably be waiting for reviews or whenever my friends are up for a new open world survival game to sink our teeth in.
i thought they said this was gonna be one big Earth 1:1 ratio where everyone is on this same world? I didn't know if I make a character I will have a whole different world compared to my friends.
I'm sure this is correct. It's the same world for everyone. Also No Man Sky works this way. Procedural planets however it's the same planets for whoever goes on it
You're correct, he's stating false information.
While everyone is "technically" on the same planet, you only actually connect to players that are near you in the game world. It's not gonna be millions of players on a singlr server, it will likely be the same dynamic lobby system from No Man's Sky
@@Jenema2 yea you can word it that way. my main point of the comment is, it's the same world as if my friend buys the game and is in his own world
It's hard to explain how it seems apparent many tricks used for mobile games are now being used for full sized 'MMO's' since the rendering is good enough that it's the textures which sell the experience, not the detail.
Getting almost the same feeling I had when seeing the first NMS trailer 10yrs ago!
Give me a giant bird if prey mount like a hawk or owl rockin a cat type avatar and look out
Technically they are Wyverns. Drakes are 4 legged wingless dragons. More modernly Drakes can also include juvenile dragons. Yes i know games & movies constantly get it wrong.
4:17 I think you mean you punch down trees 😁
Light No Fire is almost certainly going to be a shared world. With no one having single player worlds that they invite friends to. It's going to be a single massive planet, like an MMORPG, with a persistent world that everyone lives in together. And people will just spread out and explore and build things.
We'll probably start on the LNF planet in general relation to our real life geographical region. And if want to play with someone from another country, we'll have to find a way to get there. Like fast traveling teleports, or flying mounts for literal days to get there.
That would be amazing.
Incorrect. Steam page already confirmed Singleplayer. People won't actually connect unless they are near eachother in the game world, similar to No Man's Sky. The planet does not have the same continents as the IRL earth, everyone starts in a random location.
@@Jenema2 The Steam tags don't mean shit. They've been wrong countless times in the past. No one knows anything about the game except the developers.
5:34 i believe that other playable "furry creature" is the European badger seen here
As a returning player of NMS each time it drop a big update, then uninstall as soon as I figure Ive already fulfilled my wanderlust in game. Light no Fire will reignite that 🔥
I'm trying not to be impatient, but I really NEED this game right now.
Big wolves (not the cutesy ones), tall, large Canines, working hard to get their cooperation to allow you to ride.
The competition for this is "Enshrouded" probably ?
Yeah I dont think its gonna be a different planet for each player. It would literally be the opposite of what they did with NMS and the reality is that the simple answer tends to be the correct one. The simple answer here is that its procedurally generated based on coordinates just like NMS is. That means a mountain at a certain location will always be there for any player because its based on a math equation. This lets them make a massive planet with some consistency just like NMS. This is important for base building. If you build on a mountain and someone randomly comes to your base, it would be a problem if that mountain didn't exist for that player.
I will never believe another word out of Sean Murray's mouth, but I will check this out after launch.
I see Valheim crossed with No Mans Sky here. I'll still buy it.
I like the idea of a one planet game but I wish someone would make a planet size game of black desert online because I love the combat in that game but I doubt it’ll happen
light no fire will have "ONE" planet and only that planet unless you can create private games for your friends.
If I don't get to design my own structures that'll be a deal breaker for me.
ARK + No Man's Sky = Light No Fire
That " Humming Bird " was a King Fisher!
I want so very much to be a bun bun and ride a blue jay, my favourite bird!
My only fear right now is if they take building in the direction of "The Forest." While I enjoyed the game and I had fun playing and defending my homes, I personally found that the material gathering was tedious. Having to carry a limited amount of materials (2 Logs) to a building that required around 50 of them, honestly made me drop the game faster than everything else it had. And don't even get me started on "The Forest 2" that made building even more tedious by removing the cart that you could use in the first game (Which was a godsend in the first one, but still didn't make up the grinding) and for making you break the pieces to place them and if you broke it off in the wrong place now you had to start over with it.
Also, to the character creation, I really hope that the different races aren't just cosmetic. I would love to see racial specific traits like Otters having more movespeed on the water, whille rabbits have more jump height potential for exploring.
@7:08 Khajiit has wares, if you have Units.
I fear it's gonna be a grindfest just like No Mans Sky. Wide as the ocean but deep as a puddle.
Entirely possible!
It caught my attention too at first but lately i have trust issues about games releasing so i just put them to wishlist for a meantime
This could be the best alternative agaisnt ARK with all that drama going on.
I want a 4 legged dragon as a mount pleaseeeee T_T overall the game looks amazing.
Looks promising. I'm ready for a game like this.
Yeah I'm going to wait until after launch to see what dropped.
im excited to play this one
I can't wait for this game to be released so I can wait for critic and player reviews to see if it's all just hype, a broken mess, or a masterpiece. Then I can make an informed buying decision.
I was hyped..and then I remember Sean Murray lied to a level nevera seen before when he was doing No Mans Sky talks just a few years back. So I don't believe nothing about this game until it come out and everything turns to be truth. Just because years latter they "fix it" doesnt change the fact that what Sean Murray and Hello Games did with NMS marketing was almost criminal.
I hope they just drop it randomly and we're like oh shit it's out now ahah
What you said in the beginning about different worlds is not how I understood it
It's also single player, which are the only games I play. Graphics and fantasy elements look good, but if I decide to purchase the game, it will be when the game goes on sale. This game just does not draw me in like "Crimson Desert", that will be a definite pre-order game. I even have "Where Winds Meet" and "Exodus" higher on my list than "Light No Fire". Fortunatelly, there are always games being made and released to satisfy players of all game genres.
so... here's my take and heavy spoiler warning for NMS if you haven't played through either of the two story paths, but... every player is probably going to start on the same procedural earth and through the story you'll discover some ritual/procedure to move between the different seeds for this rng earth like the center of the galaxy does in NMS and how there are 255 galaxies you can cycle through in NMS. My bet, just given HG's history in how they added new stuff to NMS in the past, the two games will probably be more similar than people will want to admit. Yeah there will be differences such as say using armor pieces to give environmental protection instead of suit mods, magic instead of a terrain manipulator, stuff like that, but ultimately I bet it'll feel like a skin swap to long time NMS fans. I do have a bit of hope though and do plan to pick it up at launch so I can explore the procedural world because as a low vision gamer, they've done right by me by adding very good accessibility features.
Great video.
I want so very much to be a bunny and ride a blue jay, my favourite bird!
This game looks awesome.
I believe there will be fast travel of some sort. Maybe even how Valheim does it. You would about have too as large as the world will seem to be. I think building even motorized machines for carrying, maybe even caravans for making money much like in some city builders. Seems like the sky is the limit for this game and anything could be possible as far as mounts go. Might even be able to build some sort of mech for battling bosses, etc, etc...
Also, please God no PvP! And if they do implement it, make it flagged or give the griefers their own server(s)...
The main problem with LNF is the fact that they did not learn a single thing from their bad decisions with NMS's flight mechanics and are using the exact same flight model for the creatures in LNF. The exact same terrible mechanics. Take-off and landing are both a button prompt with a fixed animation, and the controls are extremely arcade and slow. Unless they copy GW2 flight mechanics, I'm giving this a miss. I cannot stand bad flight mechanics. NMS is such a fun game, but the flight makes it so fucking frustrating. Looks like they failed with LNF, too.
Hope the creature generation (if there is any) is improved
They were so lazy with how NMS creatures are generated
it's ark with just dragons. wow. the new animation when mounting. its the same game over and over again
Looks so similar to NMS. I mean, the trailer is all walking around showing off flora and fauna... Same thing happened before NMS release, all these trailers showed walking and looking at things, rarely doing anything really.
If there is a first person mode im in.
Exploration in no man's sky was very boreing that's what I fear about this game. 7 days to die had alot of poi's to explore.
Besides a weird name, the game looks extremely promising. Probably an Ark: Survival Evolved competitor!
My guy, while Ark is very controversial and janky, it is a very complex game. I really don't think this will be anything at all like Ark with the complexities of dino taming, breeding, mutations, extrem focus on survival mechanics like eating, temperature etc. Besides an open world setting I really don't see any similarities at all to Ark.
@stonaraptor8196 There's base building, mount taming, exploration, food a s resource management. If all you saw was open world, consider getting your eyes checked.
Let the hype train commence
13 million times the size of Skyrim
A minor point of contention, and a major one. It's a kingfisher, not a humming bird, but guessing their are many more mounts the are hiding, along with the player races. Also there are fantasy player races in the trailer, Satyr and Faun, so guessing their are others they are hidings, maybe still elves etc too. The major thing I disagree with is your procedural take. I do not think it will be like Valheim where every new game is a new world. He said one planet the size of earth. No Man's Sky is one pre-procedurally generated universe where everyone's Euclid galaxy is the same and shared. No matter how many players play, the same planet is always the same. This is why everyone can go get the same crashed exotic ships. LNF will be the same. One planet shared by every player, every new game on the same world in a random spot, starting in the temperate zones. There will be coordinates and fast travel points you can build to get to the more populated areas, but this is one world the size of Earth not each player getting their own version of the world. Instead of 4 quintillion planets, you'll have about 2 million square miles to explore. So even after ten years it'll be easy to find lonely space on the planet if you want to. Everything will be there before anyone plays the game.
I better not have to light a fire....
If it’s a true world then people need to stop thinking about biomes and more about continents.
Scotland is the size of Michigan for example and itself features at least 4 biomes itself. Not to mention different creatures from other countries even within the continent.
People are thinking to small it’s not just a small area with different biomes or is a complete failure being true world.
VR please!!!
I wish this wasn’t medieval fantasy themed… I would much prefer a post-apocalyptic or futuristic world. Also the style is too cartoony. Too similar to NMS.
unfortunately it is common for games companies to over promise and under deliver.
Is this game only PC or consoles too???
It only has a pc announcement currently but it's a safe bet it'll come to current gen consoles.
Wonder if there’s gonna be multiplayer on release? Or do we gotta wait 6 months. Then a year for character models.
Water mounts
A game way back when called Aion gave me the same vibes as this game a negative vibe.You see th efirst thing I noticed was the flying around and I stated that people were going to make a mock of the game and everyone will be flying around and yeah that happened to the point people were making sales stalls up in the sky on trees on top of buildings etc etc.
So when I see these flying mounts I feel like the ground world will be avoided because everyone is going to be flying around in the air avoiding the ground and there will likely be a lot of silliness that comes with it.
Furthermore NMS never had the team or vision to bring that game to it's fullest potential it became a stagnant boring game after a few years.So we have to ask ourselves did this guy make THAT much money from NMS sky that he coudl actually hire a larger team more skilled people to make a better game?IMO nope but much more likely is many of thesame assets will be rehashed reskinned so this will come off more as a NMS mod than a new fully fledged game.
So I did a quick search and yeah it seems Light No Sky is using the same engine as NMS so yeah I expect a mod slapped onto NMS type game.For many that might be plenty good for me NMS was never good enough to play so I need to see MUCH better.
The planet will be procedurally generated to make the Earth, but this is supposed to be a multiplayer online game. It is going to be the same planet for every single player but to get the planet they use their procedural generation software. Not everyone or every save is going to be a different planet. It's all going to be the same one
Its playable offline and you only connect to people nearby in the game world similar to NMS
map looks very empty on trailers. just like nms
Probably wait 5 or 6 years after release and buy it on a sale, might be good by then.
It’s giving me a more in depth and richer valheim vibe which in here for cause I love valheim
This looks great and very exciting. However, this likely won't be a "questy" kind of game, if that's what some players may be hoping for. If you're an end-game player of NMS, you know what this means. Players need to be self motivated enough to create their own objectives. The player needs to decide to explore, to build, or even play. There's no breadcrumb or multifaceted questing. Even reputation gains don't mean much, especially in endgame. Additionally, I hope LNF has a usefulness for food crafting, which is sorely lacking in NMS. We'll have to wait and see.
It's gonna be an MMO, no one will have his own world.
Incorrect. This is not an MMO, it is a survival/crafting game. Singleplayer was confirmed via Steam, party size is 4 players and you only connect to people that are nearby in the game world. Its not gonna be millions of players on a single server. Likely the same dynamic lobby system as No Man's Sky.
I can't trust that grifter.
Best to wait 6 years after release to pick up
So it's only going to be a multiplayer if you have friends to play with. Mmm
You will randomly connect to players that are near your location in the game world. Likely the same dynamic lobby from No Man's Sky.
I M IN
Another valhiem
So .. valheim with better graphics. Cool.
There's an awful lot of "I think..." and "may be" in this video.
So, Minecraft with better graphics