Ngl that was one of the most based opinions I have seen in the scene. Had to drop a like and a follow + will be watching for future videos. Keep up the good work^^
I think even if LNF doesn’t hit everything right off the bat that Hello Games will bring it up to a level beyond our expectations. I’m excited to dive into the game.
Absolutely what people have to understand, especially those who don't know code or the inner workings of code, is things take time. With Code is when you add something to already existing lines of code, it's likely to break either what came before it or what comes after and it's a delicate process of trying to make the new addition work with the old. At least in my experience with code learning still currently.
It was funny because I went to Volleyball practice and asked my buddy if he knew about LNF and he said he was excited and how it was co op and open world. Then he ended the excitement with “oh and it’s by the same people who made No Man Sky, so yeah it will be good”
No man's sky gets better every time I play it and this is what gives me so much hope for light no fire regardless of it's state of play at launch hello games will put their heads down and make it great in time. Some patients required sure but few studios are delivering finished content at launch.
Well put together video. I think one thing we might all be looking over is the possibility that a lot of the features we have gotten in NMS over the last few years are actually systems for LnF.
I'll repost my comment from last LNF video as I still think it is a valid point to bring up to sceptics and the specifics of which was not brought up in this video; "Hello games are using the engine they made for NMS for this game. Have people forgotten that that engine now has almost 15 years of development put into it, 5 years before NMS release and almost a decade more since then And the massive difference between 'NMS' and 'Light No Fire 'was that most of HGs focus during those 5 years off NMS development was most of the first 4 years spent on developing the engine to be able to handle what they had planned for NMS. Compare that with 'Light No Fire', which at the point of starting development had 10 years of development time put into the actual engine, to think that the release of 'Light No Fire' will be the same as NMS is just people being willfully ignorant or not using their brains enough. BunnyMage signing out"
It's astonishing to see that even after 7 years, a vocal minority still holds onto their grudge against Hello Games. The level of pettiness to sustain such negativity over a video game for such a time long is mind-boggling. The journey of Hello Games, particularly the ups and downs following the release of NMS, is precisely what makes me excited for 'Light No Fire'. It's clear they've learned valuable lessons and are committed to not repeating the same mistakes. The redemption of NMS has built a foundation of trust and goodwill, something HG is unwilling to risk losing again. Although there is overall confidence that Hello Games would rectify any initial issues with 'Light No Fire', it is crucial for their reputation that the game launches successfully without repeating history. My only main concern is how they dealt with Multiplayer this time, as that is still pretty iffy in NMS.
We as a species need to evolve in how to process information and employ sensemaking of the information space we're in. Its becoming too easy to manipulate and influence people, and that was already easy to do.
You know, that last comment. Of all the companies on the list, I think Hello Games did the best. People have short memories. And yes, Hello Games didn't fix the game in a week... they took 3 months of absolute silence to do so. However, in that 3 months, Sean personally rerouted all communications to himself, shielding his team from the literal worse of the Internet. Then filtered the garbage data from actual usable data, and proceeded to prioritize what needed to be done. And slowly, he let his actions speak louder than his words. Instead of apologizing, his apology was to make the game great. And while it took a while, No Man's Sky became a story not of disaster, but of redemption. Clawed from "mostly negative" to "Overwhelmingly positive" Steam Reviews (The Overwhelmingly Positive is from recent, all time sits at Very Positive). Some gamers have that "Too little too late" mentality, and I get it. But when you still have people in 2023 who think it's still 2016, that's a problem. And remember, even if you bought NMS as a pre-order, you have gotten a 3 months cadence of great improvements and expansions for free. No Man's Sky never released a paid DLC. Never blamed the community, never blamed anyone but themselves. And they made it right by releasing many things they never promised either. Free VR mode for PC and PlayStation 3 years after launch, and no "exclusive contract" incentives? What other company does that?
No Man's Sky was a marvel achievement of gaming technology at launch. Regardless of how "unfinished" it was, it was still unlike anything that had ever been developed before, and 8 years later still hasn't been rivaled. All the haters just don't understand what they're even looking at and probably never game the game a real try.
The great thing about Hello Games is that although NMS was pretty bare at the beginning they kept at it until it was fleshed out and went beyond a lot of expectations. So I wont preorder but I will pick it up closer to launch. A lot of people really joined the hate train on No Man's Sky and Internet Historian did a great video on NMS The Engoodening of No Man's Sky. It really broke down what happened and how they recovered. I trust them to knock this out the park and am looking forward to this game.
This is first I am hearing of this. I casually enjoy No Mans Sky. Its something I play when nothing else is really popping off. Procedurally generated worlds is generally a turn off for me so I will probably wait and see on this one. But I think the likelihood of Hello Games repeating previous mistakes is slim. At least in the short term,
the fact that Hello games busted their butts and made NMS a great game without charging us for updates is all I need to know. If Hello games keeps that business model, I will keep buying their games. I am sick to death of developers who care more about profits than making a good game.
I have to disagree with "irreparably damaged reputation". A lot of people (myself included) have almost forgot about the launch of NMS, except remembering it was bad. I focus on how it's probably one of the biggest turnarounds a game/developer has ever made. This is a company that may have faltered at first, but picked themselves up, learned from mistakes, and did NOT take it out on their player base. They have redeemed themselves. This is the kind of attitude and passion I want to see on a project like Light No Fire, and therefore I am highly optimistic.
I think I got lucky. I'd heard of No Man's Sky when it first released but it wasn't quite on my radar at the time. Then Starfield came out and, while looking at footage of that, I noticed people kept bring up NMS. After finding it on sale for 60% off, I decided to buy it and give it a shot. So far I'm really enjoying it and having fun exploring. Then, at the game's awards, I saw they're coming out with the game Light No Fire. It hits all the right buttons for me - large open world, fantasy type setting, crafting, building, fighting. It reminds me a little of Valheim, a game I love. So now I'm really looking forward to trying out LNF. Maybe it would have been different if I had tried NMS when it first launched, but because I didn't try it until this year my opinion of Hello Games is quite positive.
I’m sure they will have the exploration down. No doubt there. They need to nail the RPG elements that make other games of the same genre great. And capitalize off the scale of their own world! Example: Giant world bosses that require your mounts to get to or land on. Dungeons with cool gear that you can’t just craft or randomly find. Flashy and meaningful combat overall. I don’t want to just have cool stuff to look at. I want it to be useful for the other content that’s available.
Start No Man's Sky privately. You will enjoy the discovery and exploration at your own pace. It does not punish setting the game down for a bit and going back at all. Fun stuff, lots of wonder, a solid community when/if you do go more public with it.
They have made No Mans sky and absolute legend of a game now, and they've been extremely good faith and consumer friendly in their choices and work. I will by this game day one, they have more than earned back my trust and faith. Not even to mention their pure skill and creativity in their game making.
I preordered NMS and held on to it even before it got to the awesome game it is today, so I’m confident they can deliver with this project as well 👍🏻 Same with Star Citizen ♥️ P.S. if you want learn more about the hardship Hello Games when through during the No Man Sky development, watch an awesome video by Internet Historian 😉
If you still want to get into NMS from a content creator standpoint: Jason Plays, Beeblebum, Xaine's World, SurvivalBob, Golden Gek and Captain Steve are the go-to creators for absolutely anything over the game. And don't be sorry: the game is still alive and kicking. You can jump in, do some very casual gaming on it with or without friends and go get into something else. And if you want to see how fun this game can be with your friends (even while your friends are in different time zones across the globe), watch the "The Amazing Race" with the first four names of the list above (plus NoMandySky, guest Twitch streamer), orchestrated by The Survival Bob. It is an absolutely blast and very entertaining to see either the compilation or the perspective of each streamer. Worth every minute.
I had never even played No Man’s Sky until 2 weeks ago. Been using it to escape dealing with the emotions of the loss of a dear friend far too young. Having never played a survival type game before it really sucked me in. I didn’t know anything about the games history and it’s rough start. That being said, seeing the games current state beginning at the end of 2023 it gives me a TON of faith in the devs. I’m one of the most critical people you’ll ever encounter when it comes to software developers. I feel like most of them should be fired, generally speaking. Seeing how the game got started and where it is now, I’ll be picking up light no fire. 100%
Ben, I'm so sorry to hear about your friend. I hope they are able to rest in peace, and I'll offer my Mass this week for the repose of their soul. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the game too.
It feels like the very least I could do... I unfortunately lost several friends when I was much younger... I hope you're able to hold onto the memory of your friend, and take them with you wherever you go :)
no mans sky was really frustrating sometimes but it also kept me occupied for round 1800 hrs. i uninstalled it when Starfield was released cause i love building ships. lol but i do have a lot of hopes for Light No Fire. i have my fingers crossed that Hello Games has learned from how things went with No Mans Sky.
As soon as I started playing NMS (2020) I immediately fell in love with the game and just now I'm hearing about Light no fire and I'm very optimistic about what the game will bring, looks like they took the best out of No mans sky and started making something even better
Hello Games knows how to lose which helps you know how to not lose. LNF is going to be great out of the gate. It looks to fix so many of the things that people didn’t like about NMS. And it gets rid of the sci fi thing, which isn’t my bag. Great video, man. Keep it up.
Like you said at the end of your video negative hype also kept me away from No Mans Sky and I just bought to can a few weeks ago and I'm loving it. Same thing with Fallout 76. I just bought that game a few days ago and I'm loving it. It's like Skyrim MMO. Although I don't like when gamers attack the developers who make the games for us I'm well aware of how that makes the game better for people who never played it
I hope the game has more sense of direction then NMS. I had and still have some trouble with NMS as a solo or multiplayer setting in terms of a meaningful goal and a purpose to said goal. Dont get me wrong NMS has soooo much content, but that does not nessesarily mean a good thing, IT DOES satisfy a certain genre of players whom like RP, and collecting all kinds of stuff. But im more of a vertical progression type, and what id like to see in this grand, as big as life open world sean is saying it to be (totally believe him btw) is a sense of progression where youll need a party to explore furter areas because ur just not strong/geared enough, Or even exploring solo, going places that are clearly meant to be much harder, would set a clear goal in grinding for power, rather then just for additional cosmetics (which they already have that nailed down to the T). All and all if they can find the balance between nms style of collecting, cosmetic reward systems, and power progression like an rpg, it could very much be the best game covering almost all aspects of gaming.
I've only recently hooked into your videos starting with the Star Citizen stuff. I'm really glad I subbed. This game looks great but it might not be up my alley. Your point of view is going to help me decide if I'm the target audience. Appreciate you! Keep it real...
Thanks for these really awesome words really a great read to kick off the new year! Happy new year and I’m looking forward to sharing more with you soon :)
nah the biggest no mans sky problem is that HG never delivered on the Superformula Procedural Generation they promised and demonstrated at GDC 8 years ago...and even worse they never explained why they failed on the most important feature of the game. Sadly new NMS players dont even know what NMS was supposed to be and they dont understand the hate because they areignorant of the lies and failures.
Even on release no mans sky was fine I played it and enjoyed it. I Love to see the work they have put into the game over the years and I’m glad to see them moving forward to something new. I Look forward to getting to experience this game with friends right out of the gate as that was the biggest thing missing from no mans sky at launch for me.
Light no Fire looks great and ambitious. If NMS was an indicator to what LnF is going to be, even if it launches not fully realized I would think based on past support that Hello games would bring it up to speed rather than let it die. I will be purchasing on day one because I want to create a bunny warrior in a world of human warriors and compete.
The game looks like it could be another Ark so I'm looking out for it, so far I haven't seen anything that looks impossible for HG. I think I'll hop on launch week.
Keep up the good videos, and trying to shed a little positivity. I missed NMS launch and picked up the game later on. NMS has it's issues but it's a great game. I am really looking forward to LNF. I think Happy Games have learned a lot and are moving in a good direction. The gaming community, myself included, have a problem. We over consume and perhaps expect too much sometimes. Then add in the poison of the current sad state of social media. We just need to remember, if we don't like something we just need to move on. There is no need to attack it, like somehow it is a personal threat to our safety, it is just a game.
My skepticism / pessimism regarding Light No Fire isn't so much because I have any negative thoughts towards Hello Games (NMS has become an excellent game), it's more because the game is releasing in 2024/2025, and unfinished games with dishonest marketing are the "new-normal". I don't expect to see any dishonest marketing from Hello Games after the disastrous launch of NMS, but my excitement for this game is going to remain firmly grounded at rock-bottom until I see reviews from actual gamers- not IGN, or whatever new YongYea-tuber that praises any new release that they happen to get a kickback from.
I think too many gamers have nothing better to do than hate on games pre launch without enough information to back up what they complain about. The launch of NMS was a mess, but they learned and made up for that in spades in the years since. I think light no fire will be huge and one of if not the best selling game of the year. There is no doubt that it will just get better as time goes on much like NMS has
What I see is not outright rejection but worry and if they want to quell people's worries a solution would be to have a beta test or a demo. Showing gameplay is the best way to shut up a gamer 😂
I'm seeing a ton of ridiculous positive everything on light no fire when the game isn't even close to launch and we know little to nothing about the actual game so far. What they are wanting to do is a crazy tall order and i dont think they will pull it off. The exploration and world will probably be fine but even then they are talking about a massive world with hundreds of biomes or more i would expect. then you add in all the rpg stuff and progression and this just seems like an order to tall.
I’m super stoked for this “multiplayer” world and very interested in how it will work. Procedurally generated terrains usually mean that the storyline can’t be linearly made. Very much intrigued at how this will develop in the coming months. I’m also curious with how the servers will work out - will they be like Valheim and V rising with local servers? or more like ARK: Survival Evolved and ECO with lists of dedicated servers? Thoughts?
My recommendation with any new game do not pre-order or follow the hype day 1. Play games when their are actually player reviews. DO NOT LOOK AT "Media" reviews.
love your views on this, i personally think its going to just be a great game because they have learned there lessons and will now know how to do this properly, fingers crossed
I wasn't a huge fan of the post apocalypse genre either but played the original Fallout1&2 back in the day because they were amazingly well done turn based rpgs on par with baulders gate at the time. Then the 3D action RPGs Fallout3&4 came out and they were really fun as well, i recommend you at least try them if you have the time. The world has some depth to it and, as crazy as it is some times, it's a fun ride to choose which factions to side with and see where it takes the narrative, wouldn't want you to miss out just because you have genre bias like i did.
I have more believe in hello games then in Bethesda. If hello games is not repeating old errors and stays open and truthfull, they should make a good game and I give them the benefit of a doubt.
I really like your point of view. And you should try out NMS for sure. I have high hopes for Hello Games and the experience they gained over the past years since NMS has launched and the effort they invested to make NMS a great experience. I played it directly after release and keep coming back with every update the deliver. Let's see what they are cooking right now, it's gonna be something awesome, that's for sure!
Sean Murray lied about the product he was selling. Game development being hard is no excuse. My job is hard too, nobody cares. I can't imagine failing to deliver on a promise and telling the customer "It's too hard. You don't work in the industry so you wouldn't understand." That doesn't mean he shouldn't get a second chance. Or that his next game will be bad. But he does need to earn back trust. I hope he does.
Hey Brian, I was also thinking of checking out No Mans Sky as well... Would love to see you play it, I have the PC game pass so I have been looking at it off and on for a while now lol. As far as light no fire goes, the game looks very cool I sure hope they can pull it off and I think the fact that they came back and fixed their game and turned it around completely says a lot about the company so I am not too worried about it but time will tell...
All I know is I'm excited for LNF , the people who are still pissed about NMS early days need to get tf over it . I have friends I tried to get to play nms and they still wont cus of its early launch reputation... it sucks but that's the reality unfortunately. Hopefully good word of mouth befalls LNF .. I'm not sure if you have to be an animal hybrid but if that's the case I'll be a wolf warrior riding a dragon for sure 😂
I think the lack of information being pushed by Hello Games is a good sign with how the launch is going to go. One of the biggest issues with NMS was the launch expectations brought on by all the early conversations in various media outlets. I remember hearing my first Sean Murray interview on a non-gaming news outlet less than a week after the first teaser for NMS came out. That early in development it very well could have been all those things but on launch it wasn't. So with Light No Fire we're seeing a more reserved Hello Games. Sean Murray is posting comic strips poking fun at himself and the media interviews for NMS. Hello Games learned so much from the NMS launch and post-launch development that I would be shocked to see anything that wasn't a complete feature already finished being talked about. For those that question these things... most of what we've seen is already in NMS. Mounts, check. Building, check. Swimming, check. Harvesting, check. Exploration, check. These things look kind of like NMS because they're likely made in the NMS engine. But again, they exist already so there's no reason to not show them off.
honestly no mans sky for expeditions lately is better for non new players if you look at december. last expedition voyagers i played wasn't that great. i am somewhat new to no mans sky. the main issue for no man's sky is multiplayer and seems like the devs put that effect into light no fire. no mans sky seems not finished right now. overall from what i heard and seen it is much better but again without multiplayer/possibly boss fights no mans sky feels unpolished. if they fix multiplayer this coming year the game would feel overall much better. especially if you can do multiplayer space battles/ground pvp like events. again seems like they put that into light no fire.
I Hope it will be good but there isn’t much informations or gameplay about this game. One of my biggest problems in no mans sky was exploration, after some time everything looks the same, planets, ships, space station, aliens, animals, plants. It don’t feel like it’s something new to explore it feels more like oh I did see that already now 10 times. When they don’t fix this and the repetitive gameplay loop I see black for this game. One problem where already exist is the hype, a hype is always bad for a game even if it will be good, the people always expect more. We see it now there aren’t much informations about this game but we can read already a long list what people expect.
I played NMS on launch and thought it was ok, I think the game had about 20-30 hours of gameplay which was not ideal for a $60 game. Imo when they released NMS Next update. They redeemed themselves and righted any wrongs HG had. People out there saying LNF will be a bad game because of how NMS was launched are people we should not take seriously and to be frank should be confronted and put in check with facts then block them. Today we live in a world where keyboard warriors run amok and people need to be aware of that. Also LNF will play just like NMS as far as multiplayer is concerned. So no ability to server host or anything of like that.
I think that last guy has a point. The reputation is completely destroyed, never to be repaired. People can't learn from their mistakes. I mean, I can't, therefore no one can. So it's going to be the same kind of disaster. /s There is no doubt in my mind Light No Fire will not be complete at launch. Seven years in and their still adding new stuff to NMS. They fixed it's issues and kept going. LNF will be similar, but it will be a more complete experience at launch because the team has learned better.
@@GingerPrimeGaming True, that is why i quit watching those channels, some are just outright clickbaiting. Or some dont have even played it and go mental on it. I can see you can not play every game out there. But sometimes its just strange how people behave. Unfortunally we have some regualars on the SC community who love to hate on it. Even people who said a couple of times they quit the game forever, just to come back again with more hate.
Hello Games has one Server guy... for No Man's Sky they farm their Multiplayer out via Azure... Multiplayer in No Man's Sky is super broken, try playing in a team of 4 and run the weekend mission and see if you encounter issues, I live stream my team of 4 every Friday... 1 in 4 weeks goes well... 75% of the time we have bugs. Light no Fire places Multiplayer as its core draw... this worries me... if Hello Games hasn't fixed Multiplayer in 7 years for NMS why would LNF have it right ?
My wife is too! What my plan is, is to save some of the money I make from the channel in an account and use that so it doesn’t come out of our normal budget
Ngl that was one of the most based opinions I have seen in the scene. Had to drop a like and a follow + will be watching for future videos. Keep up the good work^^
Wow dude, thank you, such high praise. 😊❤️
I think even if LNF doesn’t hit everything right off the bat that Hello Games will bring it up to a level beyond our expectations. I’m excited to dive into the game.
Absolutely what people have to understand, especially those who don't know code or the inner workings of code, is things take time. With Code is when you add something to already existing lines of code, it's likely to break either what came before it or what comes after and it's a delicate process of trying to make the new addition work with the old. At least in my experience with code learning still currently.
It was funny because I went to Volleyball practice and asked my buddy if he knew about LNF and he said he was excited and how it was co op and open world. Then he ended the excitement with “oh and it’s by the same people who made No Man Sky, so yeah it will be good”
No man's sky gets better every time I play it and this is what gives me so much hope for light no fire regardless of it's state of play at launch hello games will put their heads down and make it great in time. Some patients required sure but few studios are delivering finished content at launch.
Well put together video. I think one thing we might all be looking over is the possibility that a lot of the features we have gotten in NMS over the last few years are actually systems for LnF.
Thanks and I’m really curious about NMS and seeing what all it does
I'll repost my comment from last LNF video as I still think it is a valid point to bring up to sceptics and the specifics of which was not brought up in this video;
"Hello games are using the engine they made for NMS for this game. Have people forgotten that that engine now has almost 15 years of development put into it, 5 years before NMS release and almost a decade more since then
And the massive difference between 'NMS' and 'Light No Fire 'was that most of HGs focus during those 5 years off NMS development was most of the first 4 years spent on developing the engine to be able to handle what they had planned for NMS.
Compare that with 'Light No Fire', which at the point of starting development had 10 years of development time put into the actual engine, to think that the release of 'Light No Fire' will be the same as NMS is just people being willfully ignorant or not using their brains enough.
BunnyMage signing out"
It's astonishing to see that even after 7 years, a vocal minority still holds onto their grudge against Hello Games. The level of pettiness to sustain such negativity over a video game for such a time long is mind-boggling.
The journey of Hello Games, particularly the ups and downs following the release of NMS, is precisely what makes me excited for 'Light No Fire'.
It's clear they've learned valuable lessons and are committed to not repeating the same mistakes.
The redemption of NMS has built a foundation of trust and goodwill, something HG is unwilling to risk losing again.
Although there is overall confidence that Hello Games would rectify any initial issues with 'Light No Fire', it is crucial for their reputation that the game launches successfully without repeating history.
My only main concern is how they dealt with Multiplayer this time, as that is still pretty iffy in NMS.
Hell hath no fury like a gamer scorned
Sean even said in an interview at launch not everything would be in the launch game, but most people ignore that.
Sounds about right
We as a species need to evolve in how to process information and employ sensemaking of the information space we're in. Its becoming too easy to manipulate and influence people, and that was already easy to do.
You know, that last comment. Of all the companies on the list, I think Hello Games did the best.
People have short memories. And yes, Hello Games didn't fix the game in a week... they took 3 months of absolute silence to do so. However, in that 3 months, Sean personally rerouted all communications to himself, shielding his team from the literal worse of the Internet. Then filtered the garbage data from actual usable data, and proceeded to prioritize what needed to be done. And slowly, he let his actions speak louder than his words. Instead of apologizing, his apology was to make the game great. And while it took a while, No Man's Sky became a story not of disaster, but of redemption.
Clawed from "mostly negative" to "Overwhelmingly positive" Steam Reviews (The Overwhelmingly Positive is from recent, all time sits at Very Positive). Some gamers have that "Too little too late" mentality, and I get it. But when you still have people in 2023 who think it's still 2016, that's a problem.
And remember, even if you bought NMS as a pre-order, you have gotten a 3 months cadence of great improvements and expansions for free. No Man's Sky never released a paid DLC. Never blamed the community, never blamed anyone but themselves. And they made it right by releasing many things they never promised either. Free VR mode for PC and PlayStation 3 years after launch, and no "exclusive contract" incentives? What other company does that?
No Man's Sky was a marvel achievement of gaming technology at launch. Regardless of how "unfinished" it was, it was still unlike anything that had ever been developed before, and 8 years later still hasn't been rivaled. All the haters just don't understand what they're even looking at and probably never game the game a real try.
The great thing about Hello Games is that although NMS was pretty bare at the beginning they kept at it until it was fleshed out and went beyond a lot of expectations. So I wont preorder but I will pick it up closer to launch.
A lot of people really joined the hate train on No Man's Sky and Internet Historian did a great video on NMS The Engoodening of No Man's Sky. It really broke down what happened and how they recovered.
I trust them to knock this out the park and am looking forward to this game.
What game are you playing in the background?
Light No Fire, that’s the name of the game
Light No Fire
FYI, it's a trailer for a game not yet released. Hello Games, the developers of No Man's Sky debuted the trailer a few weeks ago.
This is first I am hearing of this. I casually enjoy No Mans Sky. Its something I play when nothing else is really popping off. Procedurally generated worlds is generally a turn off for me so I will probably wait and see on this one. But I think the likelihood of Hello Games repeating previous mistakes is slim. At least in the short term,
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What a fun phrase
the fact that Hello games busted their butts and made NMS a great game without charging us for updates is all I need to know. If Hello games keeps that business model, I will keep buying their games. I am sick to death of developers who care more about profits than making a good game.
I have to disagree with "irreparably damaged reputation". A lot of people (myself included) have almost forgot about the launch of NMS, except remembering it was bad. I focus on how it's probably one of the biggest turnarounds a game/developer has ever made. This is a company that may have faltered at first, but picked themselves up, learned from mistakes, and did NOT take it out on their player base. They have redeemed themselves. This is the kind of attitude and passion I want to see on a project like Light No Fire, and therefore I am highly optimistic.
Yeah, we agree, plus if LNF is an opportunity to help build trust for those who still aren’t there yet
I think I got lucky. I'd heard of No Man's Sky when it first released but it wasn't quite on my radar at the time. Then Starfield came out and, while looking at footage of that, I noticed people kept bring up NMS. After finding it on sale for 60% off, I decided to buy it and give it a shot. So far I'm really enjoying it and having fun exploring.
Then, at the game's awards, I saw they're coming out with the game Light No Fire. It hits all the right buttons for me - large open world, fantasy type setting, crafting, building, fighting. It reminds me a little of Valheim, a game I love. So now I'm really looking forward to trying out LNF.
Maybe it would have been different if I had tried NMS when it first launched, but because I didn't try it until this year my opinion of Hello Games is quite positive.
I’m sure they will have the exploration down. No doubt there. They need to nail the RPG elements that make other games of the same genre great. And capitalize off the scale of their own world!
Example: Giant world bosses that require your mounts to get to or land on. Dungeons with cool gear that you can’t just craft or randomly find. Flashy and meaningful combat overall. I don’t want to just have cool stuff to look at. I want it to be useful for the other content that’s available.
Start No Man's Sky privately. You will enjoy the discovery and exploration at your own pace. It does not punish setting the game down for a bit and going back at all. Fun stuff, lots of wonder, a solid community when/if you do go more public with it.
They have made No Mans sky and absolute legend of a game now, and they've been extremely good faith and consumer friendly in their choices and work. I will by this game day one, they have more than earned back my trust and faith. Not even to mention their pure skill and creativity in their game making.
I think LNF will do very well. They don't have Sony pushing them and they have NMS as a backbone. We can clearly see LNF is using NMS as a template.
I preordered NMS and held on to it even before it got to the awesome game it is today, so I’m confident they can deliver with this project as well 👍🏻
Same with Star Citizen ♥️
P.S. if you want learn more about the hardship Hello Games when through during the No Man Sky development, watch an awesome video by Internet Historian 😉
Ill check it out, thank you.
If you still want to get into NMS from a content creator standpoint: Jason Plays, Beeblebum, Xaine's World, SurvivalBob, Golden Gek and Captain Steve are the go-to creators for absolutely anything over the game. And don't be sorry: the game is still alive and kicking. You can jump in, do some very casual gaming on it with or without friends and go get into something else. And if you want to see how fun this game can be with your friends (even while your friends are in different time zones across the globe), watch the "The Amazing Race" with the first four names of the list above (plus NoMandySky, guest Twitch streamer), orchestrated by The Survival Bob. It is an absolutely blast and very entertaining to see either the compilation or the perspective of each streamer. Worth every minute.
Thanks for these recommendations I really appreciate it
I had never even played No Man’s Sky until 2 weeks ago. Been using it to escape dealing with the emotions of the loss of a dear friend far too young. Having never played a survival type game before it really sucked me in. I didn’t know anything about the games history and it’s rough start. That being said, seeing the games current state beginning at the end of 2023 it gives me a TON of faith in the devs. I’m one of the most critical people you’ll ever encounter when it comes to software developers. I feel like most of them should be fired, generally speaking. Seeing how the game got started and where it is now, I’ll be picking up light no fire. 100%
Ben, I'm so sorry to hear about your friend. I hope they are able to rest in peace, and I'll offer my Mass this week for the repose of their soul.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the game too.
@@GingerPrimeGaming i appreciate that, and i know he would have too. thank you.
It feels like the very least I could do... I unfortunately lost several friends when I was much younger... I hope you're able to hold onto the memory of your friend, and take them with you wherever you go :)
no mans sky was really frustrating sometimes but it also kept me occupied for round 1800 hrs. i uninstalled it when Starfield was released cause i love building ships. lol but i do have a lot of hopes for Light No Fire. i have my fingers crossed that Hello Games has learned from how things went with No Mans Sky.
As soon as I started playing NMS (2020) I immediately fell in love with the game and just now I'm hearing about Light no fire and I'm very optimistic about what the game will bring, looks like they took the best out of No mans sky and started making something even better
Hello Games knows how to lose which helps you know how to not lose. LNF is going to be great out of the gate. It looks to fix so many of the things that people didn’t like about NMS. And it gets rid of the sci fi thing, which isn’t my bag. Great video, man. Keep it up.
Thanks for the comment feature ❤
Any time!
Like you said at the end of your video negative hype also kept me away from No Mans Sky and I just bought to can a few weeks ago and I'm loving it. Same thing with Fallout 76. I just bought that game a few days ago and I'm loving it. It's like Skyrim MMO.
Although I don't like when gamers attack the developers who make the games for us I'm well aware of how that makes the game better for people who never played it
I hope the game has more sense of direction then NMS.
I had and still have some trouble with NMS as a solo or multiplayer setting in terms of a meaningful goal and a purpose to said goal.
Dont get me wrong NMS has soooo much content, but that does not nessesarily mean a good thing, IT DOES satisfy a certain genre of players whom like RP, and collecting all kinds of stuff.
But im more of a vertical progression type, and what id like to see in this grand, as big as life open world sean is saying it to be (totally believe him btw) is a sense of progression where youll need a party to explore furter areas because ur just not strong/geared enough,
Or even exploring solo, going places that are clearly meant to be much harder, would set a clear goal in grinding for power, rather then just for additional cosmetics (which they already have that nailed down to the T).
All and all if they can find the balance between nms style of collecting, cosmetic reward systems, and power progression like an rpg, it could very much be the best game covering almost all aspects of gaming.
I've only recently hooked into your videos starting with the Star Citizen stuff. I'm really glad I subbed. This game looks great but it might not be up my alley. Your point of view is going to help me decide if I'm the target audience. Appreciate you! Keep it real...
Thanks for these really awesome words really a great read to kick off the new year! Happy new year and I’m looking forward to sharing more with you soon :)
nah the biggest no mans sky problem is that HG never delivered on the Superformula Procedural Generation they promised and demonstrated at GDC 8 years ago...and even worse they never explained why they failed on the most important feature of the game. Sadly new NMS players dont even know what NMS was supposed to be and they dont understand the hate because they areignorant of the lies and failures.
Even on release no mans sky was fine I played it and enjoyed it. I Love to see the work they have put into the game over the years and I’m glad to see them moving forward to something new. I Look forward to getting to experience this game with friends right out of the gate as that was the biggest thing missing from no mans sky at launch for me.
What’s going on with all these omega posts from Sean? :)
I love NMS 25+ dlc from a dev is a dream come true LNF will be the same a decade of support !
I’m cautiously optimistic about this game.
Light no Fire looks great and ambitious. If NMS was an indicator to what LnF is going to be, even if it launches not fully realized I would think based on past support that Hello games would bring it up to speed rather than let it die.
I will be purchasing on day one because I want to create a bunny warrior in a world of human warriors and compete.
The game looks like it could be another Ark so I'm looking out for it, so far I haven't seen anything that looks impossible for HG. I think I'll hop on launch week.
Keep up the good videos, and trying to shed a little positivity. I missed NMS launch and picked up the game later on. NMS has it's issues but it's a great game. I am really looking forward to LNF. I think Happy Games have learned a lot and are moving in a good direction. The gaming community, myself included, have a problem. We over consume and perhaps expect too much sometimes. Then add in the poison of the current sad state of social media. We just need to remember, if we don't like something we just need to move on. There is no need to attack it, like somehow it is a personal threat to our safety, it is just a game.
I main issue with “gamers” is when they try and spread their negativity to others.
My skepticism / pessimism regarding Light No Fire isn't so much because I have any negative thoughts towards Hello Games (NMS has become an excellent game),
it's more because the game is releasing in 2024/2025, and unfinished games with dishonest marketing are the "new-normal".
I don't expect to see any dishonest marketing from Hello Games after the disastrous launch of NMS, but my excitement for this game is going to remain firmly grounded at rock-bottom until I see reviews from actual gamers- not IGN, or whatever new YongYea-tuber that praises any new release that they happen to get a kickback from.
I think too many gamers have nothing better to do than hate on games pre launch without enough information to back up what they complain about. The launch of NMS was a mess, but they learned and made up for that in spades in the years since. I think light no fire will be huge and one of if not the best selling game of the year. There is no doubt that it will just get better as time goes on much like NMS has
This will be awesome and be the first step in the end of NMS. Bound to happen, excited to see what they do next
I think Hello games has learned their lesson.. I also think we should give them the benefit of the doubt after seeing what No Mans Sky has become.
Agreed! 👍
What I see is not outright rejection but worry and if they want to quell people's worries a solution would be to have a beta test or a demo. Showing gameplay is the best way to shut up a gamer 😂
I'm seeing a ton of ridiculous positive everything on light no fire when the game isn't even close to launch and we know little to nothing about the actual game so far. What they are wanting to do is a crazy tall order and i dont think they will pull it off. The exploration and world will probably be fine but even then they are talking about a massive world with hundreds of biomes or more i would expect. then you add in all the rpg stuff and progression and this just seems like an order to tall.
I’m super stoked for this “multiplayer” world and very interested in how it will work. Procedurally generated terrains usually mean that the storyline can’t be linearly made. Very much intrigued at how this will develop in the coming months. I’m also curious with how the servers will work out - will they be like Valheim and V rising with local servers? or more like ARK: Survival Evolved and ECO with lists of dedicated servers?
Thoughts?
first character fox or racoon
agreed i don't understand the hate after a decade! bro let it GO!
Exactly, plus it’s the healthy option for sure
My recommendation with any new game do not pre-order or follow the hype day 1. Play games when their are actually player reviews. DO NOT LOOK AT "Media" reviews.
love your views on this, i personally think its going to just be a great game because they have learned there lessons and will now know how to do this properly, fingers crossed
Thanks dude. And yes, I’m really looking forward to learning more
I wasn't a huge fan of the post apocalypse genre either but played the original Fallout1&2 back in the day because they were amazingly well done turn based rpgs on par with baulders gate at the time. Then the 3D action RPGs Fallout3&4 came out and they were really fun as well, i recommend you at least try them if you have the time. The world has some depth to it and, as crazy as it is some times, it's a fun ride to choose which factions to side with and see where it takes the narrative, wouldn't want you to miss out just because you have genre bias like i did.
I have more believe in hello games then in Bethesda. If hello games is not repeating old errors and stays open and truthfull, they should make a good game and I give them the benefit of a doubt.
Haha! Follow along with the MOB, cause in history, that has always worked out to be the best moral path! I was just following orders!! LOL!
Well said!
I really like your point of view. And you should try out NMS for sure. I have high hopes for Hello Games and the experience they gained over the past years since NMS has launched and the effort they invested to make NMS a great experience. I played it directly after release and keep coming back with every update the deliver. Let's see what they are cooking right now, it's gonna be something awesome, that's for sure!
Planning on playing it today and tomorrow, assuming family doesn’t have need of me
Sean Murray lied about the product he was selling. Game development being hard is no excuse. My job is hard too, nobody cares. I can't imagine failing to deliver on a promise and telling the customer "It's too hard. You don't work in the industry so you wouldn't understand."
That doesn't mean he shouldn't get a second chance. Or that his next game will be bad. But he does need to earn back trust. I hope he does.
Love this vid 👍
Thank you so much.
"If you make excuses for a bad game, you get a bad game" -Asmongold
Yeah that’s a false statement that sounds good to followers
It took him over 10 years of playing WoW to understand how it is, I guess you're still too wet between the ears to do so.
Hey Brian, I was also thinking of checking out No Mans Sky as well... Would love to see you play it, I have the PC game pass so I have been looking at it off and on for a while now lol. As far as light no fire goes, the game looks very cool I sure hope they can pull it off and I think the fact that they came back and fixed their game and turned it around completely says a lot about the company so I am not too worried about it but time will tell...
Yeah I have it on PC gamepass too. I might play tonight or tomorrow so hope you can make it :)
Out of curiosity, have you seen "The Engoodening of No Man's Sky" yet?
All I know is I'm excited for LNF , the people who are still pissed about NMS early days need to get tf over it . I have friends I tried to get to play nms and they still wont cus of its early launch reputation...
it sucks but that's the reality unfortunately.
Hopefully good word of mouth befalls LNF ..
I'm not sure if you have to be an animal hybrid but if that's the case I'll be a wolf warrior riding a dragon for sure 😂
I think the lack of information being pushed by Hello Games is a good sign with how the launch is going to go. One of the biggest issues with NMS was the launch expectations brought on by all the early conversations in various media outlets. I remember hearing my first Sean Murray interview on a non-gaming news outlet less than a week after the first teaser for NMS came out. That early in development it very well could have been all those things but on launch it wasn't. So with Light No Fire we're seeing a more reserved Hello Games. Sean Murray is posting comic strips poking fun at himself and the media interviews for NMS. Hello Games learned so much from the NMS launch and post-launch development that I would be shocked to see anything that wasn't a complete feature already finished being talked about. For those that question these things... most of what we've seen is already in NMS. Mounts, check. Building, check. Swimming, check. Harvesting, check. Exploration, check. These things look kind of like NMS because they're likely made in the NMS engine. But again, they exist already so there's no reason to not show them off.
When they do start sharing more with us, I think that will help us zone in on when we might be able to play the game
honestly no mans sky for expeditions lately is better for non new players if you look at december. last expedition voyagers i played wasn't that great. i am somewhat new to no mans sky. the main issue for no man's sky is multiplayer and seems like the devs put that effect into light no fire. no mans sky seems not finished right now. overall from what i heard and seen it is much better but again without multiplayer/possibly boss fights no mans sky feels unpolished. if they fix multiplayer this coming year the game would feel overall much better. especially if you can do multiplayer space battles/ground pvp like events. again seems like they put that into light no fire.
I Hope it will be good but there isn’t much informations or gameplay about this game. One of my biggest problems in no mans sky was exploration, after some time everything looks the same, planets, ships, space station, aliens, animals, plants. It don’t feel like it’s something new to explore it feels more like oh I did see that already now 10 times. When they don’t fix this and the repetitive gameplay loop I see black for this game. One problem where already exist is the hype, a hype is always bad for a game even if it will be good, the people always expect more. We see it now there aren’t much informations about this game but we can read already a long list what people expect.
I played NMS on launch and thought it was ok, I think the game had about 20-30 hours of gameplay which was not ideal for a $60 game.
Imo when they released NMS Next update. They redeemed themselves and righted any wrongs HG had.
People out there saying LNF will be a bad game because of how NMS was launched are people we should not take seriously and to be frank should be confronted and put in check with facts then block them.
Today we live in a world where keyboard warriors run amok and people need to be aware of that.
Also LNF will play just like NMS as far as multiplayer is concerned. So no ability to server host or anything of like that.
I think that last guy has a point. The reputation is completely destroyed, never to be repaired. People can't learn from their mistakes. I mean, I can't, therefore no one can. So it's going to be the same kind of disaster. /s
There is no doubt in my mind Light No Fire will not be complete at launch. Seven years in and their still adding new stuff to NMS. They fixed it's issues and kept going. LNF will be similar, but it will be a more complete experience at launch because the team has learned better.
Dude, when you get a chance, go back and watch Babylon 5. That show BLOWS Star Trek series away!
Thanks for the recommendation I’ll see where it’s at and try and make some time to watch it
Like star citizen gets a lot of hate..
That’s gaming now a days. Hate gets you attention and attention gets you money
@@GingerPrimeGaming True, that is why i quit watching those channels, some are just outright clickbaiting. Or some dont have even played it and go mental on it. I can see you can not play every game out there. But sometimes its just strange how people behave. Unfortunally we have some regualars on the SC community who love to hate on it. Even people who said a couple of times they quit the game forever, just to come back again with more hate.
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Bunny Paladin or go home.
Relaxing content.
Thank you :)
Good video. Good opinion video.
Thanks!
Great video!!
Thanks again (saw this second) :)
Hello Games has one Server guy... for No Man's Sky they farm their Multiplayer out via Azure...
Multiplayer in No Man's Sky is super broken, try playing in a team of 4 and run the weekend mission and see if you encounter issues, I live stream my team of 4 every Friday... 1 in 4 weeks goes well... 75% of the time we have bugs.
Light no Fire places Multiplayer as its core draw... this worries me... if Hello Games hasn't fixed Multiplayer in 7 years for NMS why would LNF have it right ?
@Ginger Prime. Good luck in getting Ur wife to agree to the $500. My wife is a tyrant when it comes to spending money. 😂😂😂
My wife is too! What my plan is, is to save some of the money I make from the channel in an account and use that so it doesn’t come out of our normal budget
@@GingerPrimeGaming that way should be ok with her. 🤞
What is this negative of which you speak?
I can't wait to learn more about Light No Fire. It was my takeaway from the Games Awards and there were a lot of great announcements.
Featured in the video if you made it that far. And yes LNF is I think the biggest takeaway that I got out of the game awards
@@GingerPrimeGaming - I was still sitting in the theater when Ferris told me to go home.
(The OP was something of a wink)
For the algorithm
You are the true hero
This game is going to be amazing!
Hello game trailer has over 17 MILLION!! Views! Yeah about 5k are From me.. but still!
So between you and me, who do you think the other 3 were?