J35 has a 35, which copy "35" from F35 J35 has three wheels, which copy the wheels from F35. J35 has one pilot seat , which copy the pilot seat from F35. You, I mean China, must admit the inability to do some original ideas. right? Even Chinese has one head, two arms and two legs, which also copy from Caucasus.
@@AlexanderTheGreat-f5rkeep jealous and make your own happiness by saying that j35 is copy of f35 but infect f35 is fatty while j35 is smart so again keep jealous
different dimensions, different intakes, different weapon bay, etc. all of which must go through extensive testing and wind tunnel evaluations. No copy and paste info can make it fly if that's the case.
The bump behind the cockpit is to reduce wave form drag at supersonic speeds, same as on the J-20A. It also allows for more room for fuel and subsystems. All new fighters are going to this way. Also, the J-35A is the second model designation, and the J-35 is the naval variant. So where we have the F-35A/B/C, they have the J-35_/A, same with the J-20_/A/S. The first model doesn’t have a letter designation. As an aside, they didn’t just pop this out, they’ve been developing it since the FC-31 first flew in 2012.
@@LordHusky01J35 is modified J31. J31 is a private project of Shanyang Aircraft Company. J31 lost to J20 in the initial PLA selection. PLAN only funded a small portion of the aircraft.
@@testphone8379 I heard that FC-31 was an internal project developed after Shanyang lost the contract to J20. It was not the original bid for the heavy fighter.
@@testphone8379 J-31 never lost to the J-20 because SAC didn't pitch it against CAC to begin with. What they proposed back then was a larger than J-20, three-surface design similar to the J-15, except with internal weapon bays. After SAC lost, they diverted their focus to a lighter design, aka the FC-31. And yes, for a couple of years this was a private project. But only until PLAN started looking for their next gen carrier based fighter. The funding from PLAN later on explains why there was nearly no progress between 2012-2020, but rapid development since 2021.
The hump aft of the cockpit supposedly provide a smoother transition between the nose section and the body section in terms of cross sectional area, and helps reduce drag in transonic flight. Secondly it's supposed to prevent turbulent airflow over the cockpit spilling into the intake at certain angles of attack
The F-35 needs to be larger in order to be able to take off vertically. It also has a smaller diameter meaning you can fit more F-35s on a carrier than J-35.
1:11 the "spine" is to reduce drag in high alpha. China actually document all this in their science journal so the designer can explain their aerodynamic choice and other designer can learn from it. they are not really a blackbox like people think, we just lack the technical language skill to translate alot of their document... :\
@russli-d2f None of that is true actually. It's more complex to build the raising mechanism in front of the plane. The real reason? Because the Chinese copied the plans they stole about the f35. The f35 lifts from the front because the B version has the vertical lift fan behind the driver. The Chinese just copied that.
J-20 is already stealthier than Su-57, a plane without S-duct to hide the engine blades, protruding engines, and bad finish. someone russian fanboi might cope and tell others they are prototypes, but the production Su-57 still doesn't get the smoothness of J-20, J-35, let along F-22 and F-35.
@@APDM_Analysis I'm not a Russian fanboy, but those birds with the "bad finish" were indeed T-50 prototypes, one a flying prototype, the other flown in inside a Condor as a static display. I've seen some pretty ugly production Raptors finishes.
For KF-21, Koreans actually hired consultants from the LocMart. So is it a copy, if people who had designed the original thing, officially helped with your design?
The J-35A is the land based variant. It is slightly longer, taller and has a wider wingspan than the F-35, but significantly less weight. It's two engines combine to generate almost as much thrust as the F-35's one engine. One note: copying an existing aircraft is not trivial. The tooling to form the parts, the material science to "cook" the materials that will be formed on the tooling, and training the workforce, those are all huge challenges.
@FloofyMinari As much as a Cummins Ram 3500 is a copy of an F350, other than 6.7 displacement, 2 solid axles, and big bulgy front grille, nothing is shared
@FloofyMinari Oh sure they would, plenty of Chondas and fake Rolexs. But a 5th gen fighter? That's like watching Empire strikes back and "copying" a deathstar
Such unprofessional hosts; they don’t even understand the purpose of the hump during supersonic flight. Dig up your file on J-35 development, the hump was not prominent until a later version of it. The same hump appears in the later version of J-20 when they want to enhance the plane profile for supersonic flight.
A pilot not necessary to be expert on aerodynamics. The spine(or fat neck) on J-35 is because it reduce resistence according to wind tunnel test. J-20 also made the same modifications.
You guys should just book tickets to next year's airshow. The first 3 days are only for buyers, and then they open it up to the general public. Get OSINT straight from the ground.
Currently serving USAF Reserve officers getting a visa to enter China? And entering a military air show without being one of the guest performers? I guess that could happen. They have had western demo teams though.
I mean: Lockheed Martin & Northrop came out with the basic stealth fighter designs in the YF-22 and YF-23 back in the 1990s. It’s taking the rest of the world nearly 30 years to create their own versions of stealth fighters, using the basic template of the US-designed prototypes.
It is interesting that no one talks about Being and Airbus, their planes look alike. Who copied whom? The aerodynamic limits the appearance. However, a successful plane cannot just copying from appearances of others. Besides, single engine and twin engine planes are not the same, just like 2WD and 4WD both with 4 wheels but the engineering under the chassis is very different.
It is a copy. In 2014, a hacker pleaded guilty to providing F-35 documents to PLA. The hacker even bragged it would bring China's level of stealth technology level to the US'. They also have a history of copying other planes, like the J-15, which was based on a Su-33 prototype bought from UA after RU would not sell it to them.
@@azurelightning262 USAF and department of justice? Wow... How can one question the authority of these 2 organizations especially when they talk about issues regarding China.. Ok... I have to admit you are right~ 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 😂😂😂
It's shocking to see someone seriously comparing this plane to the F35. Everything is different. I don't understand the desire? Wishful thinking? To portray China as less technologically advanced and proficient than it actually is.
That's because it is a copy. In August 2014, a Chinese national living in Canada, named Su Bin, plead guilty for his involvement in a cyber-espionage scheme to obtain F-22 and F-35 documents on behalf of the Chinese military and government
I don’t like the tone and silly accusation of copying without any grounds of the host at all, if you are given envy single torn pieces of a F35 into cubic inches and a design layout details, would you be able to copy and paste it? Just anything ! How about a hypersonic missile, a Beidou GPS system, a self built space station or a moon rover landed on far side of the moon? A DJI drone or even a BYD U8, U9 or BYD Denza D9?
The STOVL variant is stupid. It is the worst choice for the mission. The purpose is to provide CAS for the expeditionary forces. When you attach a gun pod (no internal gun) and bomb racks you throw out all of the advantage of a low cross section. How much money and time was wasted to make that variant? Would have been better off making new modern harriers.
They should've made one variant of the F-35 (the Navy variant), and the one that actually looks ok......for all services. But that Chinese J-35 looks better than all the F-35 variants.
what you see right now is a late model of the J35, the early model didn't have that spine. They put in the spine is because the wind tunnel test result show that the spine will give extra edge in high speed. And that's also a typical layout for Russian jet families.
@@iamscoutstfu you can't just "Made in China" "Temu" the Chinese away forever. aobut 20 years ago, the best work horse they could make themselves was still the mig-21, when F-22 was out already. 20 years later, here we are.
1st it's not really a copy-paste of the F.35 and 2nd, the Chinese even stated that the J35A (the land-based variant) has just been accepted in service... Regarding the technical aspects of the J35, as far as it is possible, look at this video from an engineer who makes fascinating videos on a technical perspective and is, among other qualities, very careful in his statements: ruclips.net/video/IsoFFy7ySuU/видео.html&ab_channel=Millennium7%2aHistoryTech Regards
You got the answer that nobody can copy the F35 stunning skydiving, autopilot to nowhere and swimming in ocean. It's so reliable that US military refused the upgraded F35.
The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Program has taught the Department of Defense how to correctly buy an aircraft and manage its development and operations. Will do better next time(hopefully).
@@johnsullivan8673 100% NOT needed for Transonic performance. The hump reduces drag so the aircraft can push through the transonic phase easier with less power thus save fuel. But it's power is still more than enough to power it through to supersonic without the hump. It's the top end speed that suffers without the hump.
I've fallen into the rabbit hole of Chinese military boosterism - the South China Morning Post. It's theoretically the main newspaper of Hong Kong and is supposedly blocked in mainland China. However, they still have a comments section for most articles, and they report a ton on every little thing having to do with the military of the PRC. By reading those articles and the attached comments, you'd think China was considerably superior to the US in every military technology. They will take anything and everything out of context to make it sound like China is going to wipe off the floor anyone. They don't see any faults to the Chinese military and make a lot of excuses. I guess the latest is some theoretical research in China claiming that they have a design that can improve afterburner efficiency to 99%. And the comments are like they've just blown away anyone else. Only it hasn't been put into an actual flying engine yet, and current afterburner efficiency is about 90% (which is just how much of the fuel is burned). But anyone who knows just the basics of afterburners knows that using them is woefully inefficient, and a 10% increase in efficiency isn't going to do much. In China they have basic problems just producing military engines for the J-20, and it's not just single-crystal turbine blades but a host of things that's creating low yields. They're still not at the point where they have anything as good as the F119, which is a design that's 35 years old.
aside from it being wider longer and two engines with completely different characteristics from the F35 and not sharing a single surface angle yes a direct copy and paste
lol, it’s got 2 engines because they don’t have a single engine that can produce enough thrust. Wider and longer are due to 2 engines and wanting more fuel. But to deny they didn’t use all the stolen F-35 documentation to design this…not sure what to say that wouldn’t be insulting.
@@Jack-TacticalDual-engine designs are also preferred due to lower accident rate. If one fails, you‘ll generally be able to make it home, with single engine you wouldn’t. The choice of a single engine for the F-35 was again driven by the VTOL/STOVL requirements. In most other cases it’s done as a cost reduction method.
@@Jack-Tactical None of the Specifications match between the j25 & f35. If it's a copy which part, can you exchange? You obviously know nothing about engineering. Specs are everything..
Cuz the clip exposes other angles of the j35 namely the bottom and back which makes it look way less similar to the f35 so they cant push their narrative as much
Ozempic and Hot Girl Summer …. These are highly technical terms to describe such a marvelous airplane :) The American Amy is just a little bit bigger … You guys are simply fantastic:) lol
Saying its a copy of an F35 is what brainlet NPCs say, its actually based on the SU-35, which is evident when you look at it from the back, with a stealth body kit like the F15 Silent eagle. Still, F35 - Concord character J35- Stellar blade character
actually they start on the baseline of the MiG, not Sukhoi. the engine form factor it is using is the same as MiG27 and JF17. you can literally switch their engine around and it will run, just not as fast. this in part make it an attractive export option for a country can own a mix of these 3 planes and use the same engine support crew.
@@lagrangewei which begs the question when the WS19 is introduced, would JF17s be able to use it? They'd actually become a medium fighter with that much thrust.
It's a combination of the f35 and f22. China had a spy steal the design blueprints a few years ago (it was a very public event.) So, while not a copy of either plane, their engineers didn't start from scratch either.
From an Indian🇮🇳 perspective🧐, an American pilot's statement that everything is state-run without the influence of lobbies and contractors is quite alarming😨. Despite the risks, PM Modi is not procuring fifth-generation technology and lacks a technology and strategy to harness India's human resources. Maybe India should have a dedicated minister for home affairs similar to the one for foreign affairs, and the current home affairs minister could take on the role of defence minister.🤔
Relax dude. Everytime I see an Indian commenting on China, they are always so desperate. Chill man, India's time will come. But not now. The future is bright, but it will take time. In 50 years, India will be a force to be reckoned with. For now, just relax. Cnina and India fight with sticks anyway, who cares if China has a J35. China doesn't really care about India, They are focused on US. India should worry about countries your level like pakistan or bangladesh. And also, you should team up with China to keep these westerners out. Stop being so jealous. If you keep focusing on China, the US will eat your lunch.
no, it's an idiotic compromise that doesn't really work. especially for a naval fighter, when you're over the ocean, having a single engine without a backup in case of failure or damage is a dumb idea..
@@Hystericall Eh, perhaps it's less desirable, but "idiotic" is rather strong considering planes like the A-4, A-7, F-8, F9F, and several other classic single engine Navy combat jets.
@@RocketToTheMoose the JSF is basically a cash cow project aimed at making money out of US, NATO and allies with parts that aren't reliable yet expensive when Russia was no longer a threat in 1996. If there wasn't JSF, the F-35 will have optional stealth and conventional variants STOVL fighter mainly for USMC. The stealth variant with internal bay will fly air to air air sweep sorties and also air to ground SEAD and strategic strike sorties. The lighter conventional variant won't have internal bay would serve as air to air missile truck and air to ground CAS carrying only external payload. If there wasn't JSF, US Navy would receive 60-62ft less swept wing Mach 1.8+ twin engines stealth fighter bomber with side bays and large internal bay having long range and better armament than the present F-35C. The air force would adopt the enlarged F-32 with rear elevator fins that can go Mach 2.
If these guys bothered to actually read or watch the Chinese public programs on this plane, they would know the hump in the back was created to house cooling and other electronics.
I am surprised that nobody has tried to copy the f-23 rather than the f-22 or f-35. It bested the f-22 on speed, stealth and was right with it in maneuvering without the vectored thrust.
@mecampbell30 What 5569 said was well known during the 'competition' of the X-22 and X23 . The F-22 was chosen because the development team was better connected politically.
how in the world it has STRIKING RESEMBLANCE, just because it has a wings and engines. You are supposed to be PILOTS, F-35 is FAT overall. Look at this design. It has 2 engines, it completely changes the design of the aircraft to add space for 2 engines. seriously guys grow the F up
F 35A is still best jet. You get 4 F 35 $80million for 1 F 22 $350 million. Its all about how much you get for your money. How many you produce, how many you can maintain and how much air space you can fill out with jets. J 35 A is completly different Jet then F35 but they use similar look to confuse the enemy and make it look like their own. PsyOps 101
their radar are at least 1.5 generation ahead, they have eodas etc, much more advance sensors on board. after all f-35 specs are pretty dated, even upgrades require more power output. That requires to even upgrade the core of the F-35 engine. The beauty about J-35 twin engine, it generates more power that needed for all the sensors, radars and electronics on board. There is much more room for upgrades. Fat amy designers never thought of that huh
@@watb8689 despite being twin engine, J35 does not produce more wattage than F35 (with current engine anyway). I would agree their radar is onpar since China is the leader in material processing, even F35 sensor use material from China which congress hated but has no choice since alternative would cause 2 year delay in F35 production. what is less clear is if their software and data processing equal. sensor by itself doesn't tell the pilot much without good software that is EW proof.
This one really disappointed me cuz firstly it doesn't look like F-35, secondly it has it uses their own engines, avionics, radar and everything else. Its not the matter of "if or not" cuz I know mover and ganky knows otherwise, but still if you are confused I would like to paste video of another respectable pilot here. ruclips.net/video/PFj3Bi_66-Y/видео.html
Different engines,radars,avionics,length,wing span,weight,dsi intake,computer,what's there to copy?
J35 has a 35, which copy "35" from F35
J35 has three wheels, which copy the wheels from F35.
J35 has one pilot seat , which copy the pilot seat from F35.
You, I mean China, must admit the inability to do some original ideas. right?
Even Chinese has one head, two arms and two legs, which also copy from Caucasus.
@@FredGuia-s1p
J35 has two wings, so does f35
J35 has one tail, so does f35.
J35 has one nose, so does f35.
CONCLUSION: J35 is a copy of f35 , ok ? 😂
@@FredGuia-s1pso fuck😂
@@AlexanderTheGreat-f5rkeep jealous and make your own happiness by saying that j35 is copy of f35 but infect f35 is fatty while j35 is smart so again keep jealous
Do you think they were caught hacking Lockheed's computers because they wanted to copy the lunch schedule? LOL
F-35: Girls in a relationship
J-35: Girls when they’re single
F-35: A women that can cook.
J-35: A girl that can't cook. 🤨
F35 married woman
J35 single lady
@@140theguy but US acting SecDef Christopher Miller once said Fat-35 was a piece of shxx...lmao
lmao what even does this mean
😂😂😂
different dimensions, different intakes, different weapon bay, etc. all of which must go through extensive testing and wind tunnel evaluations. No copy and paste info can make it fly if that's the case.
J-35 has much better engine efficiency. Afterburner runs nearly 100% that means air intake and fuel management is superior.
Honestly its a good looking aircraft
That's what the F-35 should look like, IMHO😀
Yep, indeed:
ruclips.net/user/shortsy2SwG3zDIbI?si=ZKWL2uD5K9ycUWA2
@@thomasantnit’s better looking then the f 35
It definitely looks much sexier than the F35.😂
F35 was actually designed by Indian engineers.
The bump behind the cockpit is to reduce wave form drag at supersonic speeds, same as on the J-20A. It also allows for more room for fuel and subsystems. All new fighters are going to this way.
Also, the J-35A is the second model designation, and the J-35 is the naval variant. So where we have the F-35A/B/C, they have the J-35_/A, same with the J-20_/A/S. The first model doesn’t have a letter designation.
As an aside, they didn’t just pop this out, they’ve been developing it since the FC-31 first flew in 2012.
The Chinese Navy also funded most of the J-35 program. So it makes sense they take the first designation.
@@LordHusky01J35 is modified J31. J31 is a private project of Shanyang Aircraft Company. J31 lost to J20 in the initial PLA selection. PLAN only funded a small portion of the aircraft.
@@testphone8379 I heard that FC-31 was an internal project developed after Shanyang lost the contract to J20. It was not the original bid for the heavy fighter.
you are more professional than the two guys in the video as they can only judge a jet fighter from its outlook... ...
@@testphone8379 J-31 never lost to the J-20 because SAC didn't pitch it against CAC to begin with. What they proposed back then was a larger than J-20, three-surface design similar to the J-15, except with internal weapon bays.
After SAC lost, they diverted their focus to a lighter design, aka the FC-31. And yes, for a couple of years this was a private project. But only until PLAN started looking for their next gen carrier based fighter. The funding from PLAN later on explains why there was nearly no progress between 2012-2020, but rapid development since 2021.
The hump aft of the cockpit supposedly provide a smoother transition between the nose section and the body section in terms of cross sectional area, and helps reduce drag in transonic flight. Secondly it's supposed to prevent turbulent airflow over the cockpit spilling into the intake at certain angles of attack
The F-35 eating too much American junk food😂
Time to slim down.
The F-35 needs to be larger in order to be able to take off vertically. It also has a smaller diameter meaning you can fit more F-35s on a carrier than J-35.
the US one eats junk food.
We like our Amys of all sizes
😂
J35:
Maximum thrust: 11(some say 12)
Maximum take-off weight: 35tons
Thrust-to-weight-Ratio: 1.26
Maximum speed: Mach 2.2
Combat radius: 1350km
Radar cross section: 0.01m2
Radar: Gallium nitride
Bomb load: 8 tons
Weapon Bay:PL-15 with 400km target range.
F35:
Maximum thrust: 9
Maximum take-off weight: 32tons
Thrust-to-weight-Ratio: 0.87
Maximum speed: Mach 1.6
Combat radius: 1160km
Radar cross section: 0.5m2
Radar: AESA
Bomb load: 7 tons
Weapon Bay:AIM120D with 160km target range.
Tell me you don't know about what really matters without telling me you don't know about what really matters.
PL-15 has max range of 300km, not 400km. Only the PL-17 has max range of 400km but is too big to fit inside the weapon bay of the J35.
If China copied, China will get a slow fat jet with tons of bugs.
There's a saying, the best flanker is not in Russia.
@@MarvinChenFantasy what's the best flanker? The failures 35? The failures 22?
j16@@chichanleon123
@@chichanleon123 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shenyang_J-16
J35 has a sleeker and leaner look, an agile bird. While F35 is a bulky fat bird like a turkey.
The f35 is just as maneuverable as the f-16😂 and looks don't win fights
Unlike multi role F35, J35 has only one purpose to counter F35.
1:11 the "spine" is to reduce drag in high alpha. China actually document all this in their science journal so the designer can explain their aerodynamic choice and other designer can learn from it. they are not really a blackbox like people think, we just lack the technical language skill to translate alot of their document... :\
Do you know why they designed the cannot to hinge from the front?
Yes, quite a few Americans can't even speak correct English.
Oh, okay, English is British, not American.
@@11leonidas11 better sealing, lower complexity and structural weight possibility. it is just a minor implementation detail
@russli-d2f None of that is true actually. It's more complex to build the raising mechanism in front of the plane. The real reason? Because the Chinese copied the plans they stole about the f35. The f35 lifts from the front because the B version has the vertical lift fan behind the driver. The Chinese just copied that.
@@russli-d2f totally man sure sure
Looks nicer than the J-20 tbh, probably stealthier than the Su-57.
A 747 is stealthier than the Su-57.
J-20 is already stealthier than Su-57, a plane without S-duct to hide the engine blades, protruding engines, and bad finish. someone russian fanboi might cope and tell others they are prototypes, but the production Su-57 still doesn't get the smoothness of J-20, J-35, let along F-22 and F-35.
@@APDM_Analysis I'm not a Russian fanboy, but those birds with the "bad finish" were indeed T-50 prototypes, one a flying prototype, the other flown in inside a Condor as a static display. I've seen some pretty ugly production Raptors finishes.
@@TC2290-wh5cb I can't tell if you are serious or not.
An E-2D is stealthier the the Su-57
It is a slim Amy!
What is with these tiny countries and their militaries?
@@idkjamesno one is going to understand you're trying to make a joke at Gonky's expense.
Slim Lim?
@@idkjamesCopy-cat syndrome without the innards…
"F35 copy"
KF-21, HAL AMCA concept: 😳
For KF-21, Koreans actually hired consultants from the LocMart. So is it a copy, if people who had designed the original thing, officially helped with your design?
@solarissv777 fits the definition
@@orange_car155 Good artists copy. Great artists steal.🤣
They all are
@@solarissv777Instead of a copy, it's a commission 🤣🤣
The J-35A is the land based variant. It is slightly longer, taller and has a wider wingspan than the F-35, but significantly less weight. It's two engines combine to generate almost as much thrust as the F-35's one engine.
One note: copying an existing aircraft is not trivial. The tooling to form the parts, the material science to "cook" the materials that will be formed on the tooling, and training the workforce, those are all huge challenges.
not a copy if its twin engine, all the aerodynamics, weight distribution are completely different.
@@Hystericallits still a copy even with twin engines. Lol
@FloofyMinari As much as a Cummins Ram 3500 is a copy of an F350, other than 6.7 displacement, 2 solid axles, and big bulgy front grille, nothing is shared
@@royj8549 not a copy?...right, China would never do such a thing....looks at Kj500....
@FloofyMinari Oh sure they would, plenty of Chondas and fake Rolexs. But a 5th gen fighter? That's like watching Empire strikes back and "copying" a deathstar
It’s crazy how in a few years China will produce around 200 stealth jets annually
Wrong
@ why wrong?
300 produces already, and at 150 annually rate, and can be double if China want to!
Such unprofessional hosts; they don’t even understand the purpose of the hump during supersonic flight. Dig up your file on J-35 development, the hump was not prominent until a later version of it. The same hump appears in the later version of J-20 when they want to enhance the plane profile for supersonic flight.
A pilot not necessary to be expert on aerodynamics. The spine(or fat neck) on J-35 is because it reduce resistence according to wind tunnel test. J-20 also made the same modifications.
You guys should just book tickets to next year's airshow. The first 3 days are only for buyers, and then they open it up to the general public. Get OSINT straight from the ground.
I live across the bay from ZhuHai and tried to get tickets this year. Good luck unless you have some very powerful Chinese uncle.
Currently serving USAF Reserve officers getting a visa to enter China? And entering a military air show without being one of the guest performers? I guess that could happen. They have had western demo teams though.
@@ypw510 Well if you don't worry about CIA/NSA knocking on your door when you come back.
@@ypw510 No VISA requirement for a 144-hour stay/transfer.
@@garyhalmbacher6875 Buy EARLY. Otherwise, what do you expect?
Like one General in the PLAA said.
We shall see you in the skies.
J-35 afterburner efficiency is nearly 100%. F-35 still at 90%. I guess Chinese missed on copying USA. 😂
The Marines flying around and hovering is just absolutely hilarious.
I mean: Lockheed Martin & Northrop came out with the basic stealth fighter designs in the YF-22 and YF-23 back in the 1990s. It’s taking the rest of the world nearly 30 years to create their own versions of stealth fighters, using the basic template of the US-designed prototypes.
J-35 looks like a sexy girl aged 18. It’s gorgeous! F-35 looks like a 35 year old women.
Chinese's next gen LHD has a catapult on board so VTOL version of the J-35 isn't necessary
After Rsptor, J35 is the best looking 5th gen fighter!
They didn't copy paste, except in your dreams.
Yeah, China wouldnt dare copy paste....kj500 would like a word.
@@ASpyNamedJames I guess they didn’t steel thousands of documents and talk about how it would allow them to “rapidly catch up” the the US either.
@@FloofyMinariLike the Yak-44?
@accountantthe3394 what about it?
PLA is trolling J20 now J35
I love watching the bots in this comment section seething about how they can’t build anything original
it's aerodynamic design is optimized for high speed. It is all wind tunnel, aerodynamic simulation based
It is interesting that no one talks about Being and Airbus, their planes look alike. Who copied whom? The aerodynamic limits the appearance. However, a successful plane cannot just copying from appearances of others. Besides, single engine and twin engine planes are not the same, just like 2WD and 4WD both with 4 wheels but the engineering under the chassis is very different.
keep in mind these are American commentators, they are obviously biased and want to bash their competitors
Please name a twin-engine fighter jet copied from a single-engine fighter jet. I really would like to learn about it.
Copied? Yup, it has wings like an American fighter jet!
It is a copy. In 2014, a hacker pleaded guilty to providing F-35 documents to PLA. The hacker even bragged it would bring China's level of stealth technology level to the US'. They also have a history of copying other planes, like the J-15, which was based on a Su-33 prototype bought from UA after RU would not sell it to them.
@azurelightning262
From an anonymous source.... Like the one who claimed Iran has WM.D?
@@simonking3949 The Department of Justice and USAF Special Reports both have reports on it
@@azurelightning262
USAF and department of justice?
Wow... How can one question the authority of these 2 organizations especially when they talk about issues regarding China..
Ok... I have to admit you are right~ 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
😂😂😂
yes, u can do copy and paste on computer........but this is a real air jet....watch comic too much!!!
It's shocking to see someone seriously comparing this plane to the F35. Everything is different. I don't understand the desire? Wishful thinking? To portray China as less technologically advanced and proficient than it actually is.
That's because it is a copy. In August 2014, a Chinese national living in Canada, named Su Bin, plead guilty for his involvement in a cyber-espionage scheme to obtain F-22 and F-35 documents on behalf of the Chinese military and government
J35 is better than F35 in every single way.
@@kinwaisiu9414I wouldn't say that, but their comments on the J-35 is ignorant, entertaining at best. Not what I would expect from actual pilots
Its thinner because it has two small engines instead of one big one
I don’t like the tone and silly accusation of copying without any grounds of the host at all, if you are given envy single torn pieces of a F35 into cubic inches and a design layout details, would you be able to copy and paste it? Just anything ! How about a hypersonic missile, a Beidou GPS system, a self built space station or a moon rover landed on far side of the moon? A DJI drone or even a BYD U8, U9 or BYD Denza D9?
The STOVL variant is stupid. It is the worst choice for the mission. The purpose is to provide CAS for the expeditionary forces. When you attach a gun pod (no internal gun) and bomb racks you throw out all of the advantage of a low cross section. How much money and time was wasted to make that variant? Would have been better off making new modern harriers.
point is congress doesn't want to buy a UK plane, they don't even want a UK engine... xD
I like these edits. Good job gents
The J-35A Ozempic.
They should've made one variant of the F-35 (the Navy variant), and the one that actually looks ok......for all services. But that Chinese J-35 looks better than all the F-35 variants.
what you see right now is a late model of the J35, the early model didn't have that spine. They put in the spine is because the wind tunnel test result show that the spine will give extra edge in high speed. And that's also a typical layout for Russian jet families.
It’s one thing to have the airframe but it’s another to have the sensors and system fusion ability to share information
they have that too
@@SF7PAKISTAN Prove it.
@SF7PAKISTAN
Sensor fusion from Temu doesnt count bro
@@iamscoutstfu aliexpress is close 2nd
@@iamscoutstfu you can't just "Made in China" "Temu" the Chinese away forever. aobut 20 years ago, the best work horse they could make themselves was still the mig-21, when F-22 was out already.
20 years later, here we are.
The spine behind the cockpit maybe room for a 2 seater variant? With the J20 2 seater variant, they have a pilot and drone controller.
1st it's not really a copy-paste of the F.35 and 2nd, the Chinese even stated that the J35A (the land-based variant) has just been accepted in service...
Regarding the technical aspects of the J35, as far as it is possible, look at this video from an engineer who makes fascinating videos on a technical perspective and is, among other qualities, very careful in his statements:
ruclips.net/video/IsoFFy7ySuU/видео.html&ab_channel=Millennium7%2aHistoryTech
Regards
I wonder why there is not a second country doing this copy and paste thing.
You got the answer that nobody can copy the F35 stunning skydiving, autopilot to nowhere and swimming in ocean. It's so reliable that US military refused the upgraded F35.
The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Program has taught the Department of Defense how to correctly buy an aircraft and manage its development and operations. Will do better next time(hopefully).
It’s probably not happening unless there’s some drastic change in US power structure.
If things are so easy to be copied, what to be so proud of?
J35 is better than F35 in every single way.
That hump behind canopy is for reducing drag, not space reserved for lift fan.
Do these people not understand the area rule? That hump has to be there since the cockpit sits that high.
it doesn't "have" to be there. It makes it easier to go faster, but it's not needed if you lower speed requirement
@ it’s 100% needed for transonic performance.
@@johnsullivan8673 100% NOT needed for Transonic performance. The hump reduces drag so the aircraft can push through the transonic phase easier with less power thus save fuel. But it's power is still more than enough to power it through to supersonic without the hump. It's the top end speed that suffers without the hump.
the lack of a HUD as a backup has on record caused the loss of at least one F35. Maybe redundancy isn't a bad idea after all.
I've fallen into the rabbit hole of Chinese military boosterism - the South China Morning Post. It's theoretically the main newspaper of Hong Kong and is supposedly blocked in mainland China. However, they still have a comments section for most articles, and they report a ton on every little thing having to do with the military of the PRC. By reading those articles and the attached comments, you'd think China was considerably superior to the US in every military technology. They will take anything and everything out of context to make it sound like China is going to wipe off the floor anyone. They don't see any faults to the Chinese military and make a lot of excuses.
I guess the latest is some theoretical research in China claiming that they have a design that can improve afterburner efficiency to 99%. And the comments are like they've just blown away anyone else. Only it hasn't been put into an actual flying engine yet, and current afterburner efficiency is about 90% (which is just how much of the fuel is burned). But anyone who knows just the basics of afterburners knows that using them is woefully inefficient, and a 10% increase in efficiency isn't going to do much. In China they have basic problems just producing military engines for the J-20, and it's not just single-crystal turbine blades but a host of things that's creating low yields. They're still not at the point where they have anything as good as the F119, which is a design that's 35 years old.
it will be a 2 seats version ,that's why it has that spine.
F35 looks buffer than this skinny butterfly
aside from it being wider longer and two engines with completely different characteristics from the F35 and not sharing a single surface angle yes a direct copy and paste
lol, it’s got 2 engines because they don’t have a single engine that can produce enough thrust.
Wider and longer are due to 2 engines and wanting more fuel.
But to deny they didn’t use all the stolen F-35 documentation to design this…not sure what to say that wouldn’t be insulting.
@@Jack-TacticalDual-engine designs are also preferred due to lower accident rate. If one fails, you‘ll generally be able to make it home, with single engine you wouldn’t.
The choice of a single engine for the F-35 was again driven by the VTOL/STOVL requirements. In most other cases it’s done as a cost reduction method.
@@Jack-Tactical None of the Specifications match between the j25 & f35. If it's a copy which part, can you exchange? You obviously know nothing about engineering. Specs are everything..
It's also doesn't look as ugly as f35 non stealthy belly design plus 6 bvr and latest ai chips unlike f35 with pentium 1 kind of chips... ..
@@lyin4rmu oh no, the CCP has found my comment!
If the F-35 is the Battle Penguin, what is the J-35? What is a bird similar to a penguin but more dopey?
Battle Puffin
@@RedTail1-1 DoDo
Now jetplanes need beauty contest
Why don’t you show him the clip instead of a picture
Cuz the clip exposes other angles of the j35 namely the bottom and back which makes it look way less similar to the f35 so they cant push their narrative as much
Ozempic and Hot Girl Summer …. These are highly technical terms to describe such a marvelous airplane :)
The American Amy is just a little bit bigger …
You guys are simply fantastic:) lol
The back bump is for aerodynamic
Saying its a copy of an F35 is what brainlet NPCs say, its actually based on the SU-35, which is evident when you look at it from the back, with a stealth body kit like the F15 Silent eagle. Still,
F35 - Concord character
J35- Stellar blade character
Yeah, China wouldnt dare copy USA....meanwhile Kj500 looks identical to hawkeye.
actually they start on the baseline of the MiG, not Sukhoi. the engine form factor it is using is the same as MiG27 and JF17. you can literally switch their engine around and it will run, just not as fast. this in part make it an attractive export option for a country can own a mix of these 3 planes and use the same engine support crew.
@@lagrangewei which begs the question when the WS19 is introduced, would JF17s be able to use it? They'd actually become a medium fighter with that much thrust.
Stellar blade is korean tho 💀
It's a combination of the f35 and f22. China had a spy steal the design blueprints a few years ago (it was a very public event.) So, while not a copy of either plane, their engineers didn't start from scratch either.
I thought this is supposed to be about fighting abilities but it is all just fat jokes 😂😂😂
You recorded this on my birthday!
From an Indian🇮🇳 perspective🧐, an American pilot's statement that everything is state-run without the influence of lobbies and contractors is quite alarming😨. Despite the risks, PM Modi is not procuring fifth-generation technology and lacks a technology and strategy to harness India's human resources. Maybe India should have a dedicated minister for home affairs similar to the one for foreign affairs, and the current home affairs minister could take on the role of defence minister.🤔
Relax dude. Everytime I see an Indian commenting on China, they are always so desperate. Chill man, India's time will come. But not now. The future is bright, but it will take time. In 50 years, India will be a force to be reckoned with. For now, just relax. Cnina and India fight with sticks anyway, who cares if China has a J35. China doesn't really care about India, They are focused on US. India should worry about countries your level like pakistan or bangladesh. And also, you should team up with China to keep these westerners out. Stop being so jealous. If you keep focusing on China, the US will eat your lunch.
F35 after crash diet
It’s Amy on Pilates 😂
Curious, would the F-35 have had two engines the V/STOL B-version didn't need to exist?
no, it's an idiotic compromise that doesn't really work. especially for a naval fighter, when you're over the ocean, having a single engine without a backup in case of failure or damage is a dumb idea..
@@Hystericall Eh, perhaps it's less desirable, but "idiotic" is rather strong considering planes like the A-4, A-7, F-8, F9F, and several other classic single engine Navy combat jets.
@@RocketToTheMoose the JSF is basically a cash cow project aimed at making money out of US, NATO and allies with parts that aren't reliable yet expensive when Russia was no longer a threat in 1996.
If there wasn't JSF, the F-35 will have optional stealth and conventional variants STOVL fighter mainly for USMC. The stealth variant with internal bay will fly air to air air sweep sorties and also air to ground SEAD and strategic strike sorties. The lighter conventional variant won't have internal bay would serve as air to air missile truck and air to ground CAS carrying only external payload.
If there wasn't JSF, US Navy would receive 60-62ft less swept wing Mach 1.8+ twin engines stealth fighter bomber with side bays and large internal bay having long range and better armament than the present F-35C. The air force would adopt the enlarged F-32 with rear elevator fins that can go Mach 2.
If the Viper had the "Bump" it could carry much more fuel.
If these guys bothered to actually read or watch the Chinese public programs on this plane, they would know the hump in the back was created to house cooling and other electronics.
I am surprised that nobody has tried to copy the f-23 rather than the f-22 or f-35. It bested the f-22 on speed, stealth and was right with it in maneuvering without the vectored thrust.
I heard that the Japanese want to buy the plans for the F-23 but I think US isn't selling.
That is complete speculation.
@mecampbell30 What 5569 said was well known during the 'competition' of the X-22 and X23 . The F-22 was chosen because the development team was better connected politically.
man this si the first time i saw comment where people actually bullying the f35 lmaoooo
It's full of armchair experts and keyboard warriors who think they are experts after reading extremely biased sources
I wonder what other countries did not copy if this is so easy to do. 😂😂😂😂
If copy and paste so easy, why just china doing it?
F-22 with round exhausts instead of flat exhausts.
Industrial espionage at its finest!
Everything looks similar to an untrained eye
India can help! Incredible India!
Looks more like a mini f22
Best counterfiet jet they made so far from usa stolen tech
f22 + f35 = SU57
China is so original, maybe they start a boy band
Fit Amy.
Algorithmic engagement comment.
Hopefully we never get proof that the F-35 is better than the J-35
1:05 The bump in the inlet doesn't need to be their either.
That's part of the DSI inlet design😂
Twin engine, much better imho. Stop saying "they copy".....Engineering converges for physics and fluid dynamics..
In fact, J35 is better than F35 in every single way.
how in the world it has STRIKING RESEMBLANCE, just because it has a wings and engines. You are supposed to be PILOTS, F-35 is FAT overall. Look at this design. It has 2 engines, it completely changes the design of the aircraft to add space for 2 engines. seriously guys grow the F up
Chinabot has entered the chat
They are grown up, and they can probably type with correct punctuation and use of capital letters too.
Lol okay Chinabot. Whatever you say.
These guys can fly multiple jets,what can you fly?
@@fubar3886 lol thats all you can say..clearly some meth smoking redneck
If this guy is your pilot then good luck with that, he doesn't know any shit.
Turkey Kaan, Japan FX, Korean KF21 all look like F35. Is there any new fighter doesn’t look similar?
Is there anyone who doesn't look similar when they have eyes, ears, legs, fingers, lung, heart...like the American?
F-35 with Ozempic face 🤣
American Aimee is a little bit bigger😂
F 35A is still best jet. You get 4 F 35 $80million for 1 F 22 $350 million.
Its all about how much you get for your money. How many you produce, how many you can maintain and how much air space you can fill out with jets.
J 35 A is completly different Jet then F35 but they use similar look to confuse the enemy and make it look like their own. PsyOps 101
Wait that was the whole video? "It looks like an f-35" bruh talk about click bait
世界最强大的风洞 几乎都在中国 你们以为这些设备是为了夏天天热用的吗 ？😅
I wonder if their sensors are on par.
their radar are at least 1.5 generation ahead, they have eodas etc, much more advance sensors on board. after all f-35 specs are pretty dated, even upgrades require more power output. That requires to even upgrade the core of the F-35 engine. The beauty about J-35 twin engine, it generates more power that needed for all the sensors, radars and electronics on board. There is much more room for upgrades. Fat amy designers never thought of that huh
@@watb8689 despite being twin engine, J35 does not produce more wattage than F35 (with current engine anyway). I would agree their radar is onpar since China is the leader in material processing, even F35 sensor use material from China which congress hated but has no choice since alternative would cause 2 year delay in F35 production. what is less clear is if their software and data processing equal. sensor by itself doesn't tell the pilot much without good software that is EW proof.
@@watb8689you forgot to write trust me bro
not just sensors and radars are better; J35 beats F35 in every single way.
Knew a guy who had a Camaro got it all pretty and it sat in driveway because the engine was crap
This one really disappointed me cuz firstly it doesn't look like F-35, secondly it has it uses their own engines, avionics, radar and everything else. Its not the matter of "if or not" cuz I know mover and ganky knows otherwise, but still if you are confused I would like to paste video of another respectable pilot here.
ruclips.net/video/PFj3Bi_66-Y/видео.html