i made my home cinema with a receiver sony and i put in the subwoofer pre,out the amplifie and i coneccect two 18 inch speakers and the sound its awesome
The woofers moving on startup does not show how 'powerful' the amplifier is, it's rather bad actually because it's passing DC voltage to your speakers. That doesn't necessarily harm your speakers if it's for a very short moment but it does show that the amplifier does not have a good startup protection.
Oh how much I've learned, and a lot of it has been from people like yourself. There is criticism... like your channel or videos suck, and there is constructive criticism. Very helpful, thank you. Several things I should have pointed out in the video that were simply not true. I would love to learn more about the circuitry and designs different companies have used in audio products over the years and I am fascinated with the time period when America started using transistors and mosfets as opposed to vacuum tubes and different output stages.
@@hugoc.8534 a spare 150w RMS per tower is no joke, it's also NOT clocked at 1,000 cycles at a billionth of a second with Chinese circuitry. He might not be a certified electrical engineer but he knows what he wants and how to make it happen. I'm asking him for some foundation ideas and I trust him after this video and my system is going to whoop some ace with Silver Shadow quality. 🤘
I must admit i watch a lot of videos on dolby atmos and home theater setups especially since I just retired and is in the process of setting up my own Home theater. Not to take from the others because I like them too but you add all the science just like they do but just when it you think you heard it all you Sir take it to another level. Looking forward to the next episode.
Sup Man, nice video, my question Is.. the sound from Toslink or HDMI source can send sound from the front speakers on the emotiva? I mean the Dolby digital can be decoder trough pass on the front preout ?
Brother can you help me...I have a 4k android smart tv..and LG 5.1 home theater...there's no optical in tv aswell as in the DVD player...there's HDMI arc....what I need is , the pure suround sound in my home theater
sorry about the late response, but those are great speakers, anything klipsch makes uses that horn tweeter, and it usually sounds better in the highs than other speakers costing twice as much.... the r7iis are probably one of the better ones they make.
This was a copy from the real demo which I downloaded online... it's not the best way but you can get these online still and get the true surround channels. Type in the demo in Google and you can find the videos and demo discs. Let me know if you can't find one your looking for!
Ok I’ll look into that. I’ll keep searching and let you know if I can’t find anything. I just finished my install in the new theater room and starting to calibrate everything.
I was able to download the Dolby Atmos demo which sounded awesome! Way better than an actual Atmos movie. The only THX one I could find was very basic and short with no sound effects. Any idea where I can download a THX demo reel?
Hi, my lx 701 pioneer has currently 5.1 setup but is capable of doing 7.2.4 atmos. I did not add height channels because i need to cut celling and wire everything and that is pain in the ass and it is left for future. But i noticed line outs for each channel (height surrounds etc) and because i have studio monitors in music room, i got idea to wire 2 more fronts to get larger ''stage''. Now, it does not count as discrete surround wide channel but i figured, when you fronts playing, front wides can only play some SIDE information of the stereo filed but if you have center channel that acts as mono mid information and LEFT and RIGHT speaker acts as stereo's sides, that can only means that front wides acts as side of the stereo side which does not make any sense. So if i connect receiver amplified speakers and line out active speakers, i should i get fronts and fronts wides depending of position ? And also, i can do that for all speakers. For example, instead of 4 heights, i could get 8 channels of heights and also surrounds and surrounds wides ? Thanks
MIchael Wiggler ya you could technically connect 4 active speakers to the height pre out on the receiver and have 8 height channels or any other speakers but it will not be discrete surround info. You can do that for any speakers as long as your receiver has the pre out section for those channels. I use the front wide channels for music but you can run any power amp or active speakers as front wides and it is the sound in between the front l and r speakers and the surround speakers, so in the middle. You just have to set the receiver to have the wide channels active
electroman 2000s the emotiva basX a 300 2 channel power amplifier. Great price considering others cost upwards of $1,000 and more for the same amount of power. I currently have it driving the rear SVS height speakers now as opposed to the front left and right SVS speakers.
dave kallerae you would get one or 2 surround sound processors, then a few amps to run the speakers from, setting up a total of 18 up, instead of people doing odd things like using the speaker terminals on your subwoofer, or adding 2 receivers together. That might get 18 speakers working but not 18 separate channels. If you took 2 Dolby atmos receivers, and hooked them up using pre pro devices, you could get all 18 actual channels to work. Only some of the best receivers have 11.2 channels of processing. But a separate surround processor, adding a second or third allows people with larger theaters or extremely big rooms to hook up separate preamps and amplifiers to sets of speakers, generating the actually channels.
hi im a little confused?. i want a theater with the Auro 3D 10.1 set up and dobly atmos and dts x.. so having one receiver hooked up for auro 3D using the 5.1 speaker setup with added height channels.. so how do you use the 5.1 speakers with another receiver for dobly amots or dts x? if you got your main 7.1 set up and add other speakers ..you still need the main 7.1 speakers for all 3 formats..you cant have 3 recviers hooked up to thoses main 7.1 speaker layout??? thanks
You cant decode extra channels? The processor is what it is? If its capable only of 11ch you cant make it 32 ch the only thing you may be doing is repeating a channel?
The Story of My Life CNTK you would need 2 rca cables for left and right channels, find the pre out section on the back of the receiver labeled with which speakers you would like to add and connect the RCA cables to the power amplifier and then the speakers to the power amp and set that in the receivers settings. Let me know if you need more help
I have a 9 channel avr which can support up to 11.2 I wanna add a 7 channel ext power amp to get a 16.1 channel system. Is it possible? You mentioned that you hv a 18.2 in another room. Can you show us how you set up a 16/18 channel system??
@@ThatTransistorGuy Hahaha - that all - 🤣 I have a video here (uploaded many years ago) showing how anyone with the correct audio signal decoder - (and enough RCA interconnect cables) that can "lift" 300+ channels - from any basic 2ch stereo source. I haven't bothered using that many - for the simple reason I haven't got that many speakers, let alone enough individual mono amps to drive each lifted (completely individual) channel. But hey - someone with way too much money and who is a lot younger than I now am - could easily do it, if they ? Um - they'd need to be able to get into New Zealand & out again (from New Zealand), as well as convince me to "loan them" the unit - (all under NZ's strict border/covoid MIQ controls.. not going to happen eh?)
Why stay with a 7.1 and just add two to the mains and tweeters - with an additional two high frequency speakers? Why not redesign it as a 7.7 that you can boost into a 9.9 (or beyond) ? I did a wee "test" a few years ago - (OMG over ten yrs - by looking back now) - which utilized a small "function" of a true analogue multiple channel deplexer-decoder unit. Not wanting to limit myself to the original 6 or 7 channels I had in 1965 - i wanted to see how many channels I could dig "out' of it - by the addition of a lot more circuits, fed from the original 2ch amp - with all additional circuits driving their own speakers. - so ended up driving a 25.7 ch system (with a +1super-sub-reverber) via 64 speaker cabinets within which I had 88 speakers individually connected with, or through - to well - get more than any POINT-1 system could ever deliver It's on a 25.7+1 video here inside RUclips although sadly - at the time my old Nokia 6120 Cellphone's MONO video recorder function - & thus only recorded the result in mono - (which is why I used so many different coloured lights hard wired across some of the speakers, to act as visual cue VU meters). I'll let you all "search" my video's here for that one - via a search-videos "key-word, of: 10ch That way - you'll need to look for it amongst the other 10 channel audio videos - that I have also made - (both audible and silent ones - yep silent using mere lights as VU indicators, instead of feeding audible speaker "voice coils"). Or - just search for: Dreamscape 009 (25.7ch+64speakers) 01072011.mp4 Oops U caught me PLAYING again 8p5+10ch with 2SUBS That's all I could title it as?
I have a Marantz sr7012. I have added a Emotiva Xpa-2 for the front left and right channels. Emotiva is powering Klipsch RP-480f speakers. I have noticed no difference in power as when speakers were plugged into Marantz. I used rca that was labeled as a sub rca. I am getting volume from emotiva but still seams the same as volume when I was hooked up to Marantz. Am I using wrong rca cables or is it my Marantz was putting out nearly same power in two channel config?
Hi! I am more or less in the same situation as yours. Currently using a Marantz 7013 with B&W 603 Floor standers and B&W HTM6 Center along with some old Yamaha bookshelf speakers as surrounds and front atmos. While this combination sounds great but I always feel that there is less headroom and I really have to crank up the volume way higher (at least -18db to -10db) to make my speakers produce the power I like. And I am thinking of adding a Power Amp to drive my front three B&W speakers. The models I have shortlisted are: 1) Emotova XPA-3 Gen 3 --three channel amp OR 2) Yamaha MX-A5200 with bridge connection for the front two and bi-amping the center. But reading your experience, now I am re-thinking whether this power amp investment will be justifies if I do not hear the difference. Will wait for your thoughts, suggestions. Cheers, Partha
@@aboltabol73 & @Nathan Starcher Try a frequency splitter, and that will allow you to "boost" the lower frequencies on their own - to just overpower the lower frequencies - also you'll possibly be needing to completely remove the mid ranges from the subs, and only allow the tweeters to get about half the incoming signal strength - and that should beef up your subwoofer outputs. It won't fix your "simulated" surround system - but you will hear more sub frequencies, when you overwork your subs. Or - rework the way the (original analogue) signal circuits that are fed into the master amp - as I fully suspect you are ONLY powering the frontal channels - which (by virtual creative "digitalized" surround amp systems) default to only powering the frontal channels into the rears at a "delayed" time-shift - (thereby "boosting" the time delayed fronts when they "arrive" at the digital simulated SWEET SPOT, where all "frontal stereo" signals are boosted to allow a "virtual" system to appear as if coming from all around) instead of a frequency-shift or even a simple signal phase-shift - which actually provides a hell of a lot of "missing" content to be heard BEHIND and beside you - that the frontal speakers never amplify - as the simulated systems time delay most of the subs and "rear surrounds" thereby denying you any useable "headroom". All you really get is the exact same at the front - sent across the room, to "mesh' with the as loud time-shifted frontal signals played from your rear & surround speakers - to let you assume you have multiple surround, when all you have is an artificially delayed play (of the fronts), boosting their frontal outputs at your "sweet spot" listening position... The next time you go to an outdoor concert - consider this. IF you stand where your system's sweet spot occurs - do you hear the exact same sounds, if you walk anywhere else? No of course not as time-shifting DOES NOT OCCUR in any live concert. What you hear "backstage" is the rear instruments louder and mingled with the backing singers, while the lead singer and frontal guitarists, are muffled as they "face" the front of house, with their backs to you. Your system - needs to exactly replicate a live concert show - not a studio simulated sound.
Good videos and nice equipment. I have a question for you. I have just purchased the exact emotiva that you have "not hooked up yet" I also purchased the marantz 7011 a while ago. My front towers are Klipsch RP 280fa. Which are bi amped to my receiver. My question is how you have your front L,R towers hooked up from your 7010 to your emotiva to your towers?
Well this is the fun part of the hooking it up process. What the marantz sr7011 allows you to do is hook up any 2 rca cables to the PRE OUT section on the back. What I have done is hooked the Emotiva a300 to the front L and R section of the PRE OUTs then to the input of Emotiva. remember to take out your front Left and Right speaker cables from the Marantz also, those are going from the Emotiva from now on. The best thing about the Marantz sr7011 is you can take any speakers and connect it to the Emotiva. It has the front LR also the Center, Surrounds, Surround Backs also Height 1 and Height 2. Plus the Zone 2 and 3 pre outs also. So virtually you could hook at least 6 to 7 different power amps to that receiver. I should do a video on how to exactly hook up a power amp.
I have an onkyo receiver with zone two line out connections, can those be used to hook up an external amp? (Crown xls1502) I just want to power my cerwin Vega towers. Amp power just isn't cutting it.
They have been on the verge of folding for 25 years and you said your amp wasn't cutting it, so what's with the foul language? Maybe you should invest in a dictionary before more audio gear.
I'm new to Atmos. I just bought a full set of JBL Arena (180 x2 for fronts, 125c for center, 120 x8 for surround and heights). I will buy the receiver next month, which is a Yamaha Aventage 9.2 (with 11.2 pre-outs). I'm kind of curious if I don't use all 9 channels from my receiver, will that amount to increase power distribution for the active channels? Like if I use external amps for 5 channels, leaving 6 channels for the receiver to power, will the 6 channels receive a power boost from the 3 unused channels in my receiver?
simple answer - yes - the fewer channels u use from the receiver - more u will get from it - so adding an amp is always a good thing when u are setting up a home theater setup. don't forget to check ohm rating for each speaker and make sure to buy good speaker wire- look for High Strand Count 12 AWG Pure Copper - www.amazon.com/dp/B075ZHBWH8/?coliid=I3FYDP9OQXZL9N&colid=11KP4HOD3PU0S&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
Good video I use Parasound 2125s for bi Amping . I use a mono /stereo amp Dayton Audio for my voice of God speaker. Good luck on your cable management .
3:44 - What - you haven't MOUNTED anything on that property - just in the bedroom - ? So are we talking of TV's and audio here, or the MOUNTING of something completely different.!!! TV's aren't mounted onto a wall - they are affixed via a stationary wall bracket, or on a swing arm - they are thus NOT mounted. Neither for that fact are speakers MOUNTED anywhere, they too are affixed. Mounting is what the Ram & the Bull do - to Ewes & Cows (respectfully).
2:40 ? Hey why don't you use WIRELESS speakers, you know the type that are WIRED directly via ( in the USA a 120v cable, or in the UK & Au, NZ via the 320vAC mains) as they need to get electrical power from the electricity mains output sockets, but get their "audio signals" sent wirelessly .. being so called wireless - (but actually fully wired) speakers. That way - you won't have to worry about lots of RCA cables for audio - just lots of T&E medium voltage cables = for the mains electricity "power supply" instead. Or - drill a nice "big" hole down through your floor, and run all "speaker connect" cables underneath - and just have a neat hole under each speaker.. That way - no power cables and no audio RCA interconnects either. Oh you don't own the house - pity, you'll need to run them all - on the surface (in full view).
In real estate, the theme is Location-Location-Location. In audio, it's Speakers-Speakers-Speakers. Unless you are totally strapped for room, like this fellow here, get the largest, most efficient speakers you can fit in your room! I have, just for the front mains, a pair of vintage University Classics. 3 way ALL horn loaded cabs. 170Lbs each. The centers are a pair of Bullfrog PA speakers. Each has a 12" and a 10" cone driver and 3 tweeters. Rear surrounds are another pair of self built speakers, each has a JBL !5" woofer, JBL 10" horn mid and a 4" extended horn super tweeter. Sub 1 is a JBL THX certified 18" box stands 4 feet tall and 28" wide powered by a 150 watt RMS sub amp. There is another 12" powered sub and blaa blaa blaa. For a demo, I play the opening organ passage of the "Phantom of the Opera" . My listeners come just short of having to change their underwear! Oh.........The surround receiver is a Onkyo TX-NR757.
@@mrbobbybtv OR - forget using any "digital receiver" and simply insert an original kiwi invention (created here in New Zealand in 1965) being an audio deplexer decoder - which can lift any 2ch stereo signal directly from the internal signal outputs, (of the "played" recording device), to then amplify all individual channels which you can extract from that - and beat yourself to death - trying to get enough MONO amps - to drive every speaker from those multiple outputs.
Hi there, I have a doubt, which is slightly off this topic. Can you tell me whether Boston acoustics a25 bookshelf speakers are large or small speakers, coz my Yamaha 583 receiver shows them as large, so please help me out. Thanks
That is what most receivers are going to call any speakers that can handle 80 hertz and less... that cuts off the sub woofers from working sometimes... I would go into the receiver menu and change the speakers to small, even if they are big and the receiver thinks they are big, then the sub woofers will only work at a certain frequency, I prefer my subs to pick up all of the bass and main speakers to only play 85 hz and up...
Emotiva a 500... which on the expensive side but one of the better quality ones. Outlaw audio five channel or OSD audio Chinese made 5 channel, and audio source amps are cheapest but not that bad. If you looking for home theater 5 Channel amps then Power is not necessarily of the most concern but if you're looking for this to be a stereo 2 channel amp for music also you want something with some power to it. I'll be doing a video soon on power amplifiers and best ones for the price.
Hi everyone I have a question that is been killing me. I bought an onkyo 810 and it says that I can either use 7.1 or 5.1.2 my question is, if the amp has preouts in the back, can I use pre outs for the height 2 channels in another amp and use all 9 speakers at same time? I mean the 7.1 plus the 2 heights working together for atmos at same time? Thank you in advance!
good question but you would need to provide a bit more detail. Are your pre outs labelled for height channels or can they be configured? Some amps only allow certain channels through pre out. Which amp do you have?
You should be able to do that from the onkyo, if it supports 9 channel or 11 channel processing, then it should allow you to listen to all 9 speakers at the same time. Unless there is no rear height pre out on the back of it then you cant send a rear height signal to a power amp. But if it supports 5.1.2 then you can just have the front heights connected to the receiver instead of a 7.1 layout. So instead of surround backs channels you would use the front height channels.
Thanks so much ...just like to know how are You using just 2 AV Marantz revivers with just one power Amp ? I need your personal experience and advice me to make my system more accurate as I have Emotiva 7 ch. and also Denon 11.2 ch. I’m using klipsch Rp-140 sa as add on module placing them on top of the front and rear as my system right now (5.1.4 ) do you advice me to change the position of my klipsch speakers and put the on wall as highet speaker? What are you suggest if I have my old onkyo AVR or buy new small 2 ch Emotiva for just the main LR ? My Emotiva XPA -Gen 3 7 ch.right now driving my Main,C,Rear LR and front Atmos (highet I LR ) only my Denon connected with Highet 2 enabled upfiring spk. Please explain to me how to use 2 receivers and your final advice.thanks
You can't necessarily use 2 surround sound receivers, but an integrated amp and receiver or power amps, if I were you I would buy a cheap power amp and power a set of rear height speakers coming out of your receiver pre out section. If your receiver has more pre out sections on the back, then you can send those signals to any other amp and have more speakers for atmos and DTS. I would use the Emotiva to drive the height speakers then, that would be world class sound from any receiver.
Question. I have an amp that does 5.1.2. I understand the concept about using Zone 2 (Pre-Amp) outputs to another amplifier. But wouldn't you just be duplicating the same audio track over & over again ? In this case, the .2 atmos channels. Wouldn't you be creating the same channel across more speakers ? Thanks,
Yes, you are correct, if you are using the zone 2 output, but if you are using the preout section that says height channels, then you should be able to send that to any other amp and get the discrete channels. not just the same track over and over again.
Can someone help me with preampping. I have the pioneer elite 701. Which has spots for speaker terminals that will do 7.2.4 however I just found out that the rear height channels are not separately ampped. A) How do I add a preamp to this? And I can I use an older receiver as a preamp? And what is the best cheapest preamp that will do my rears.
I hope everything worked out for ya, you should be able to send a rear height signal to an external power amp, you can get one for about $100, and it will just power the rear heights... you would just use an rca L and R cable to go from the pre out of the receiver where the processing is and into the power amp input.
Bro, those woofers barely even budged. It was so mynute that I had to rewind the scene 6 times in order to actually catch the slight, and I mean slight oooommmppphhh of the subwoofers. That's not as powerful as you believe because that wasn't even close to 1/10th excursion. That's nothing new. All you have to do is reverse the polarity on your speakers and the speakers will have way more excursion than yours did with that Emotiva amp.
6:08 (ish) - you talk of an 18 ch system - in another room which -0 by the way you talked of ":adding" 7.2 using a simple 7.2 receiver - tells me that most if not all those 18 channels arte actually duplicates of a 9 ch system (meaning you have NOT got an 18 system at all, just a duplicated 9 .. using two speakers per channel.? BUT - telling anyone via a home made video uploaded onto RUclips, PLEASE.. Please make sure that the very least you do (after you buy a decent stereo video recorder) - is this. MAKE SURE your own educational video AUDIO - doesn't wow & flutter, from Left to Right & sometimes go completely berserk on pure MONO in say the RHJ speaker.. As that just tells me that when you "edited" your video BEFORE you published it here on RUclips, - you forgot to ensure the audio playing your voice - isn't as crappy as the cheapskate recorder you used - which begs the question - if you couldn't afford a newer video recorder with "balanced" dialogue for speaking - how do ytou expect us to believe any of this AV & TV set up - is "full surround" - via our own PC's two channle headphone outputs?
That’s just disrespectful. He just wants to show off his speakers .bragging he has a 16.2 system which is overkill and stupid . There’s really nothing informative about this video
@@TheU2BlueRoom Correct, He doesn't have the space to justify his setup. 7.2 and higher is for larger areas needing more sound imaging. I hate when all speakers are so close, all sound comes from the same direction. OK, I'm off my soap box. It's time for me to go kiss my female and tell her I love her. LOL
I have two Yamaha RTS V863 along with an older Yamaha V2400 still yet five Marantz A5 mono blocks with a Cambridge DAC and 2 channel amp to match. Im confused where to start. Should I BI amp and BI wire my Polk Rtia9's with the Yamaha's or the Marantz 5a's? I have two sets of Rtia7's (4) ONE CS6 and a pair if CSI5's 2 sets of Rtia1's. (4) and a pair of Rtia 3's.. in back f/x3's and f/x4's. I have other speakers in the Polk line but some will go on the market. My Yamaha 1700 DVD. has pre outs and the DAC has balanced outputs. I have been building systems for most my life but never BI wire and or amping with 7.2 AVR gear. I'm really interested in your thoughts on what my approach should be for power quality and individual control. cheers! Subscription in!
I will suggest go with soundbar because sound clearity well and not to much vire in home it was not looking well but you have big hall so buy home theater other wise in technology soundbar is cool
Darshan modi yes you are right soundbars are superior to separate hi-fi grade speakers with a high end AVR and outboard amplification. Thanks for pointing that out I'll trash my Dali Ikons and two subwoofers now phew...
I stood in your corner before but if you are shooting a vid about adding external amp stick to that and only that. This is your autobiography and it doesn't flow and it's very egotistical. Just shoot the vid with a 7.2 with another 7.2.
Can you do a video on how to plug all this together?
May I ask what model receiver you are using and also what model amp you’re using as well what brand of speakers are you using? Thanks.
So on the section that says pre-out are you using the black slots or the red and white ones?
i made my home cinema with a receiver sony and i put in the subwoofer pre,out the amplifie and i coneccect two 18 inch speakers and the sound its awesome
Can you hook up and play 4 height speakers with the parasound?
The woofers moving on startup does not show how 'powerful' the amplifier is, it's rather bad actually because it's passing DC voltage to your speakers. That doesn't necessarily harm your speakers if it's for a very short moment but it does show that the amplifier does not have a good startup protection.
Oh how much I've learned, and a lot of it has been from people like yourself. There is criticism... like your channel or videos suck, and there is constructive criticism. Very helpful, thank you. Several things I should have pointed out in the video that were simply not true. I would love to learn more about the circuitry and designs different companies have used in audio products over the years and I am fascinated with the time period when America started using transistors and mosfets as opposed to vacuum tubes and different output stages.
I lost it when he said did you see how powerful that is 😂 😂 😂
The SKORP is a SKEP?
@@hugoc.8534 Did JOU find it yet?
@@hugoc.8534 a spare 150w RMS per tower is no joke, it's also NOT clocked at 1,000 cycles at a billionth of a second with Chinese circuitry. He might not be a certified electrical engineer but he knows what he wants and how to make it happen. I'm asking him for some foundation ideas and I trust him after this video and my system is going to whoop some ace with Silver Shadow quality. 🤘
I must admit i watch a lot of videos on dolby atmos and home theater setups especially since I just retired and is in the process of setting up my own Home theater. Not to take from the others because I like them too but you add all the science just like they do but just when it you think you heard it all you Sir take it to another level. Looking forward to the next episode.
Sup Man, nice video, my question Is.. the sound from Toslink or HDMI source can send sound from the front speakers on the emotiva? I mean the Dolby digital can be decoder trough pass on the front preout ?
What cables do you use ????
Brother can you help me...I have a 4k android smart tv..and LG 5.1 home theater...there's no optical in tv aswell as in the DVD player...there's HDMI arc....what I need is , the pure suround sound in my home theater
Almost sounds as good as my phone im watching it on.
I do not know if you hold a lot of speakers did you get the real sound no distortion....
And what do you think about klipsch r 7ii ..
sorry about the late response, but those are great speakers, anything klipsch makes uses that horn tweeter, and it usually sounds better in the highs than other speakers costing twice as much.... the r7iis are probably one of the better ones they make.
I want to know how you got those scars.
You Can ! I have a Integra 60.6 and added height speakers via external amplifier, all of my volume levels can be adjusted individually. Chris
chris blanchard I have the integra DTR- 4.6 and I have that feature as well I love this amp I need to do some upgrades
Hi, i don’t see any video around if the Subwoofer needs to have an amp? I only see for the 5 speakers and non for the subs... can you advise please?
Same here but I think the sub is left out due to the sub having its own amplifier.
Hey just wondering where you got the sample disk that’s playing in your player????
This was a copy from the real demo which I downloaded online... it's not the best way but you can get these online still and get the true surround channels. Type in the demo in Google and you can find the videos and demo discs. Let me know if you can't find one your looking for!
Tactical Audio Video sweet thanx. I will look for that.
@@ericgrussendorf5663 there are a few on RUclips, but they might not be native surrounded sound, so not actual dolby Atmos or dts x
Ok I’ll look into that. I’ll keep searching and let you know if I can’t find anything. I just finished my install in the new theater room and starting to calibrate everything.
I was able to download the Dolby Atmos demo which sounded awesome! Way better than an actual Atmos movie. The only THX one I could find was very basic and short with no sound effects. Any idea where I can download a THX demo reel?
Your SVS towers are awesome!
Hi, my lx 701 pioneer has currently 5.1 setup but is capable of doing 7.2.4 atmos. I did not add height channels because i need to cut celling and wire everything and that is pain in the ass and it is left for future. But i noticed line outs for each channel (height surrounds etc) and because i have studio monitors in music room, i got idea to wire 2 more fronts to get larger ''stage''. Now, it does not count as discrete surround wide channel but i figured, when you fronts playing, front wides can only play some SIDE information of the stereo filed but if you have center channel that acts as mono mid information and LEFT and RIGHT speaker acts as stereo's sides, that can only means that front wides acts as side of the stereo side which does not make any sense. So if i connect receiver amplified speakers and line out active speakers, i should i get fronts and fronts wides depending of position ? And also, i can do that for all speakers. For example, instead of 4 heights, i could get 8 channels of heights and also surrounds and surrounds wides ? Thanks
MIchael Wiggler ya you could technically connect 4 active speakers to the height pre out on the receiver and have 8 height channels or any other speakers but it will not be discrete surround info. You can do that for any speakers as long as your receiver has the pre out section for those channels. I use the front wide channels for music but you can run any power amp or active speakers as front wides and it is the sound in between the front l and r speakers and the surround speakers, so in the middle. You just have to set the receiver to have the wide channels active
Hi
What exactly is the model of EMOTIVA power amplifier you have connected to Marantz???
electroman 2000s the emotiva basX a 300 2 channel power amplifier. Great price considering others cost upwards of $1,000 and more for the same amount of power. I currently have it driving the rear SVS height speakers now as opposed to the front left and right SVS speakers.
how do you get a 18.2 surround
dave kallerae you would get one or 2 surround sound processors, then a few amps to run the speakers from, setting up a total of 18 up, instead of people doing odd things like using the speaker terminals on your subwoofer, or adding 2 receivers together. That might get 18 speakers working but not 18 separate channels. If you took 2 Dolby atmos receivers, and hooked them up using pre pro devices, you could get all 18 actual channels to work. Only some of the best receivers have 11.2 channels of processing. But a separate surround processor, adding a second or third allows people with larger theaters or extremely big rooms to hook up separate preamps and amplifiers to sets of speakers, generating the actually channels.
hi im a little confused?. i want a theater with the Auro 3D 10.1 set up and dobly atmos and dts x.. so having one receiver hooked up for auro 3D using the 5.1 speaker setup with added height channels.. so how do you use the 5.1 speakers with another receiver for dobly amots or dts x? if you got your main 7.1 set up and add other speakers ..you still need the main 7.1 speakers for all 3 formats..you cant have 3 recviers hooked up to thoses main 7.1 speaker layout??? thanks
You cant decode extra channels? The processor is what it is? If its capable only of 11ch you cant make it 32 ch the only thing you may be doing is repeating a channel?
I have a Denon x4300h which is 9.2 channel how can I add two more channels to make it 11.2. I already bought an adcom gfa555 two channel amp?
The Story of My Life CNTK you would need 2 rca cables for left and right channels, find the pre out section on the back of the receiver labeled with which speakers you would like to add and connect the RCA cables to the power amplifier and then the speakers to the power amp and set that in the receivers settings. Let me know if you need more help
I have a 9 channel avr which can support up to 11.2
I wanna add a 7 channel ext power amp to get a 16.1 channel system. Is it possible?
You mentioned that you hv a 18.2 in another room.
Can you show us how you set up a 16/18 channel system??
What parasound model is that?
www.parasound.com/zpre2.php
Has “the female” upgrade “the male” she seems to serve?
Liked and subscribed. Nice videos man this is exactly what I'm trying to accomplish. Thanks
18.2 😲 OMG THAT HAS TO SOUND AMAZING.
Lol, i have 103.5🤣
@@ThatTransistorGuy Hahaha - that all - 🤣
I have a video here (uploaded many years ago) showing how anyone with the correct audio signal decoder - (and enough RCA interconnect cables) that can "lift" 300+ channels - from any basic 2ch stereo source.
I haven't bothered using that many - for the simple reason I haven't got that many speakers, let alone enough individual mono amps to drive each lifted (completely individual) channel.
But hey - someone with way too much money and who is a lot younger than I now am - could easily do it, if they ?
Um - they'd need to be able to get into New Zealand & out again (from New Zealand), as well as convince me to "loan them" the unit - (all under NZ's strict border/covoid MIQ controls.. not going to happen eh?)
I got a 7.1 receiver and i want to add 2 extra atmos speaker to it can that happen with an external amplifier.?
Why stay with a 7.1 and just add two to the mains and tweeters - with an additional two high frequency speakers?
Why not redesign it as a 7.7 that you can boost into a 9.9 (or beyond) ?
I did a wee "test" a few years ago - (OMG over ten yrs - by looking back now) - which utilized a small "function" of a true analogue multiple channel deplexer-decoder unit.
Not wanting to limit myself to the original 6 or 7 channels I had in 1965 - i wanted to see how many channels I could dig "out' of it - by the addition of a lot more circuits, fed from the original 2ch amp - with all additional circuits driving their own speakers. - so ended up driving a 25.7 ch system (with a +1super-sub-reverber) via 64 speaker cabinets within which I had 88 speakers individually connected with, or through - to well - get more than any POINT-1 system could ever deliver
It's on a 25.7+1 video here inside RUclips although sadly - at the time my old Nokia 6120 Cellphone's MONO video recorder function - & thus only recorded the result in mono - (which is why I used so many different coloured lights hard wired across some of the speakers, to act as visual cue VU meters).
I'll let you all "search" my video's here for that one - via a search-videos "key-word, of:
10ch
That way - you'll need to look for it amongst the other 10 channel audio videos - that I have also made - (both audible and silent ones - yep silent using mere lights as VU indicators, instead of feeding audible speaker "voice coils").
Or - just search for:
Dreamscape 009 (25.7ch+64speakers) 01072011.mp4 Oops U caught me PLAYING again 8p5+10ch with 2SUBS
That's all I could title it as?
I have a Marantz sr7012. I have added a Emotiva Xpa-2 for the front left and right channels. Emotiva is powering Klipsch RP-480f speakers. I have noticed no difference in power as when speakers were plugged into Marantz. I used rca that was labeled as a sub rca. I am getting volume from emotiva but still seams the same as volume when I was hooked up to Marantz. Am I using wrong rca cables or is it my Marantz was putting out nearly same power in two channel config?
Hi!
I am more or less in the same situation as yours.
Currently using a Marantz 7013 with B&W 603 Floor standers and B&W HTM6 Center along with some old Yamaha bookshelf speakers as surrounds and front atmos.
While this combination sounds great but I always feel that there is less headroom and I really have to crank up the volume way higher (at least -18db to -10db) to make my speakers produce the power I like. And I am thinking of adding a Power Amp to drive my front three B&W speakers.
The models I have shortlisted are:
1) Emotova XPA-3 Gen 3 --three channel amp
OR
2) Yamaha MX-A5200 with bridge connection for the front two and bi-amping the center.
But reading your experience, now I am re-thinking whether this power amp investment will be justifies if I do not hear the difference.
Will wait for your thoughts, suggestions.
Cheers,
Partha
@@aboltabol73 & @Nathan Starcher
Try a frequency splitter, and that will allow you to "boost" the lower frequencies on their own - to just overpower the lower frequencies - also you'll possibly be needing to completely remove the mid ranges from the subs, and only allow the tweeters to get about half the incoming signal strength - and that should beef up your subwoofer outputs.
It won't fix your "simulated" surround system - but you will hear more sub frequencies, when you overwork your subs.
Or - rework the way the (original analogue) signal circuits that are fed into the master amp - as I fully suspect you are ONLY powering the frontal channels - which (by virtual creative "digitalized" surround amp systems) default to only powering the frontal channels into the rears at a "delayed" time-shift - (thereby "boosting" the time delayed fronts when they "arrive" at the digital simulated SWEET SPOT, where all "frontal stereo" signals are boosted to allow a "virtual" system to appear as if coming from all around) instead of a frequency-shift or even a simple signal phase-shift - which actually provides a hell of a lot of "missing" content to be heard BEHIND and beside you - that the frontal speakers never amplify - as the simulated systems time delay most of the subs and "rear surrounds" thereby denying you any useable "headroom".
All you really get is the exact same at the front - sent across the room, to "mesh' with the as loud time-shifted frontal signals played from your rear & surround speakers - to let you assume you have multiple surround, when all you have is an artificially delayed play (of the fronts), boosting their frontal outputs at your "sweet spot" listening position...
The next time you go to an outdoor concert - consider this.
IF you stand where your system's sweet spot occurs - do you hear the exact same sounds, if you walk anywhere else?
No of course not as time-shifting DOES NOT OCCUR in any live concert.
What you hear "backstage" is the rear instruments louder and mingled with the backing singers, while the lead singer and frontal guitarists, are muffled as they "face" the front of house, with their backs to you.
Your system - needs to exactly replicate a live concert show - not a studio simulated sound.
Good videos and nice equipment. I have a question for you. I have just purchased the exact emotiva that you have "not hooked up yet" I also purchased the marantz 7011 a while ago. My front towers are Klipsch RP 280fa. Which are bi amped to my receiver. My question is how you have your front L,R towers hooked up from your 7010 to your emotiva to your towers?
Well this is the fun part of the hooking it up process. What the marantz sr7011 allows you to do is hook up any 2 rca cables to the PRE OUT section on the back. What I have done is hooked the Emotiva a300 to the front L and R section of the PRE OUTs then to the input of Emotiva. remember to take out your front Left and Right speaker cables from the Marantz also, those are going from the Emotiva from now on. The best thing about the Marantz sr7011 is you can take any speakers and connect it to the Emotiva. It has the front LR also the Center, Surrounds, Surround Backs also Height 1 and Height 2. Plus the Zone 2 and 3 pre outs also. So virtually you could hook at least 6 to 7 different power amps to that receiver. I should do a video on how to exactly hook up a power amp.
Puppies World Thanks for the information.
Benny Salvador go to 11:00 on video he explains it there
I have an onkyo receiver with zone two line out connections, can those be used to hook up an external amp? (Crown xls1502) I just want to power my cerwin Vega towers. Amp power just isn't cutting it.
Onkyo is the worst on the market.
@@daveclark2507 yea right. I got it dialed in and it pounds my two towers and sounds great. Go F yourself.
@@smokefree08 this is in reference to what?
They have been on the verge of folding for 25 years and you said your amp wasn't cutting it, so what's with the foul language? Maybe you should invest in a dictionary before more audio gear.
I'm new to Atmos. I just bought a full set of JBL Arena (180 x2 for fronts, 125c for center, 120 x8 for surround and heights). I will buy the receiver next month, which is a Yamaha Aventage 9.2 (with 11.2 pre-outs). I'm kind of curious if I don't use all 9 channels from my receiver, will that amount to increase power distribution for the active channels? Like if I use external amps for 5 channels, leaving 6 channels for the receiver to power, will the 6 channels receive a power boost from the 3 unused channels in my receiver?
simple answer - yes - the fewer channels u use from the receiver - more u will get from it - so adding an amp is always a good thing when u are setting up a home theater setup. don't forget to check ohm rating for each speaker and make sure to buy good speaker wire- look for High Strand Count 12 AWG Pure Copper - www.amazon.com/dp/B075ZHBWH8/?coliid=I3FYDP9OQXZL9N&colid=11KP4HOD3PU0S&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
Can you connect a 2 channel stereo receiver to a av receiver with pre outs. I have a marantz 6014.
My room size
10'-30'-40 ' feet
Home theater plans plz....
Yeah man that excursion or popping when turning on the amp is usually a problem with a capacitor in the amp
Good video I use Parasound 2125s for bi Amping . I use a mono /stereo amp Dayton Audio for my voice of God speaker. Good luck on your cable management .
3:44 - What - you haven't MOUNTED anything on that property - just in the bedroom - ?
So are we talking of TV's and audio here, or the MOUNTING of something completely different.!!!
TV's aren't mounted onto a wall - they are affixed via a stationary wall bracket, or on a swing arm - they are thus NOT mounted.
Neither for that fact are speakers MOUNTED anywhere, they too are affixed.
Mounting is what the Ram & the Bull do - to Ewes & Cows (respectfully).
2:40 ?
Hey why don't you use WIRELESS speakers, you know the type that are WIRED directly via ( in the USA a 120v cable, or in the UK & Au, NZ via the 320vAC mains) as they need to get electrical power from the electricity mains output sockets, but get their "audio signals" sent wirelessly .. being so called wireless - (but actually fully wired) speakers.
That way - you won't have to worry about lots of RCA cables for audio - just lots of T&E medium voltage cables = for the mains electricity "power supply" instead.
Or - drill a nice "big" hole down through your floor, and run all "speaker connect" cables underneath - and just have a neat hole under each speaker..
That way - no power cables and no audio RCA interconnects either.
Oh you don't own the house - pity, you'll need to run them all - on the surface (in full view).
Nice setup. This guys voice... He should be a narrator 😁
Nice video...
In real estate, the theme is Location-Location-Location. In audio, it's Speakers-Speakers-Speakers. Unless you are totally strapped for room, like this fellow here, get the largest, most efficient speakers you can fit in your room! I have, just for the front mains, a pair of vintage University Classics. 3 way ALL horn loaded cabs. 170Lbs each. The centers are a pair of Bullfrog PA speakers. Each has a 12" and a 10" cone driver and 3 tweeters. Rear surrounds are another pair of self built speakers, each has a JBL !5" woofer, JBL 10" horn mid and a 4" extended horn super tweeter. Sub 1 is a JBL THX certified 18" box stands 4 feet tall and 28" wide powered by a 150 watt RMS sub amp. There is another 12" powered sub and blaa blaa blaa. For a demo, I play the opening organ passage of the "Phantom of the Opera" . My listeners come just short of having to change their underwear! Oh.........The surround receiver is a Onkyo TX-NR757.
Curt Chase can you make a video of your setup?
How did you play the video? I tried different programs and there’s no sound or Dolby Surround only.
polo3ero your reciever needs to support the Dolby atmos format otherwise you'll get no or bad sound
@@mrbobbybtv OR - forget using any "digital receiver" and simply insert an original kiwi invention (created here in New Zealand in 1965) being an audio deplexer decoder - which can lift any 2ch stereo signal directly from the internal signal outputs, (of the "played" recording device), to then amplify all individual channels which you can extract from that - and beat yourself to death - trying to get enough MONO amps - to drive every speaker from those multiple outputs.
Hi there, I have a doubt, which is slightly off this topic. Can you tell me whether Boston acoustics a25 bookshelf speakers are large or small speakers, coz my Yamaha 583 receiver shows them as large, so please help me out. Thanks
That is what most receivers are going to call any speakers that can handle 80 hertz and less... that cuts off the sub woofers from working sometimes... I would go into the receiver menu and change the speakers to small, even if they are big and the receiver thinks they are big, then the sub woofers will only work at a certain frequency, I prefer my subs to pick up all of the bass and main speakers to only play 85 hz and up...
What’s a good 5 channel amp for under 500-600 ?
Emotiva a 500... which on the expensive side but one of the better quality ones. Outlaw audio five channel or OSD audio Chinese made 5 channel, and audio source amps are cheapest but not that bad. If you looking for home theater 5 Channel amps then Power is not necessarily of the most concern but if you're looking for this to be a stereo 2 channel amp for music also you want something with some power to it. I'll be doing a video soon on power amplifiers and best ones for the price.
Damn,you sound exactly like "Christian Slater"!....lol!
Hi everyone I have a question that is been killing me. I bought an onkyo 810 and it says that I can either use 7.1 or 5.1.2 my question is, if the amp has preouts in the back, can I use pre outs for the height 2 channels in another amp and use all 9 speakers at same time? I mean the 7.1 plus the 2 heights working together for atmos at same time? Thank you in advance!
good question but you would need to provide a bit more detail. Are your pre outs labelled for height channels or can they be configured? Some amps only allow certain channels through pre out. Which amp do you have?
You should be able to do that from the onkyo, if it supports 9 channel or 11 channel processing, then it should allow you to listen to all 9 speakers at the same time. Unless there is no rear height pre out on the back of it then you cant send a rear height signal to a power amp. But if it supports 5.1.2 then you can just have the front heights connected to the receiver instead of a 7.1 layout. So instead of surround backs channels you would use the front height channels.
Thanks so much ...just like to know how are You using just 2 AV Marantz revivers with just one power Amp ? I need your personal experience and advice me to make my system more accurate as I have Emotiva 7 ch. and also Denon 11.2 ch. I’m using klipsch Rp-140 sa as add on module placing them on top of the front and rear as my system right now (5.1.4 ) do you advice me to change the position of my klipsch speakers and put the on wall as highet speaker? What are you suggest if I have my old onkyo AVR or buy new small 2 ch Emotiva for just the main LR ? My Emotiva XPA -Gen 3 7 ch.right now driving my Main,C,Rear LR and front Atmos (highet I LR ) only my Denon connected with Highet 2 enabled upfiring spk. Please explain to me how to use 2 receivers and your final advice.thanks
You can't necessarily use 2 surround sound receivers, but an integrated amp and receiver or power amps, if I were you I would buy a cheap power amp and power a set of rear height speakers coming out of your receiver pre out section. If your receiver has more pre out sections on the back, then you can send those signals to any other amp and have more speakers for atmos and DTS. I would use the Emotiva to drive the height speakers then, that would be world class sound from any receiver.
could you not believe that you are the Joker ! with the way you speak
Question. I have an amp that does 5.1.2. I understand the concept about using Zone 2 (Pre-Amp) outputs to another amplifier. But wouldn't you just be duplicating the same audio track over & over again ? In this case, the .2 atmos channels. Wouldn't you be creating the same channel across more speakers ?
Thanks,
Yes, you are correct, if you are using the zone 2 output, but if you are using the preout section that says height channels, then you should be able to send that to any other amp and get the discrete channels. not just the same track over and over again.
Hide all them damn wires they are over place 🤣🤣
I have 6 power amps😁
Can someone help me with preampping. I have the pioneer elite 701. Which has spots for speaker terminals that will do 7.2.4 however I just found out that the rear height channels are not separately ampped. A) How do I add a preamp to this? And I can I use an older receiver as a preamp?
And what is the best cheapest preamp that will do my rears.
just get a other reciver
you rear highest have its own channel
I hope everything worked out for ya, you should be able to send a rear height signal to an external power amp, you can get one for about $100, and it will just power the rear heights... you would just use an rca L and R cable to go from the pre out of the receiver where the processing is and into the power amp input.
Nice system. TV is kinda small though.
Bro, those woofers barely even budged. It was so mynute that I had to rewind the scene 6 times in order to actually catch the slight, and I mean slight oooommmppphhh of the subwoofers. That's not as powerful as you believe because that wasn't even close to 1/10th excursion. That's nothing new. All you have to do is reverse the polarity on your speakers and the speakers will have way more excursion than yours did with that Emotiva amp.
eeeeeeem hi e dogi admos
6:08 (ish) - you talk of an 18 ch system - in another room which -0 by the way you talked of ":adding" 7.2 using a simple 7.2 receiver - tells me that most if not all those 18 channels arte actually duplicates of a 9 ch system (meaning you have NOT got an 18 system at all, just a duplicated 9 .. using two speakers per channel.?
BUT - telling anyone via a home made video uploaded onto RUclips, PLEASE..
Please make sure that the very least you do (after you buy a decent stereo video recorder) - is this.
MAKE SURE your own educational video AUDIO - doesn't wow & flutter, from Left to Right & sometimes go completely berserk on pure MONO in say the RHJ speaker..
As that just tells me that when you "edited" your video BEFORE you published it here on RUclips, - you forgot to ensure the audio playing your voice - isn't as crappy as the cheapskate recorder you used - which begs the question - if you couldn't afford a newer video recorder with "balanced" dialogue for speaking - how do ytou expect us to believe any of this AV & TV set up - is "full surround" - via our own PC's two channle headphone outputs?
18.2 😂 😂
"The female.." hehe nice work
The female...is he talking about his wife?
woman he has tied up in the basement...
That’s just disrespectful. He just wants to show off his speakers .bragging he has a 16.2 system which is overkill and stupid . There’s really nothing informative about this video
@@TheU2BlueRoom Correct, He doesn't have the space to justify his setup. 7.2 and higher is for larger areas needing more sound imaging. I hate when all speakers are so close, all sound comes from the same direction. OK, I'm off my soap box. It's time for me to go kiss my female and tell her I love her. LOL
Nope, his mama!
@@TheBluuHouse Stop kryon, kyron! Got krayons? (;
All best buy
18.2????? How? Your processor isnt capable of that? You mean you're just connecting extra speakers to a still 7.4.2 configuration?!
I have two Yamaha RTS V863 along with an older Yamaha V2400 still yet five Marantz A5 mono blocks with a Cambridge DAC and 2 channel amp to match. Im confused where to start. Should I BI amp and BI wire my Polk Rtia9's with the Yamaha's or the Marantz 5a's? I have two sets of Rtia7's (4) ONE CS6 and a pair if CSI5's 2 sets of Rtia1's. (4) and a pair of Rtia 3's.. in back f/x3's and f/x4's. I have other speakers in the Polk line but some will go on the market. My Yamaha 1700 DVD. has pre outs and the DAC has balanced outputs. I have been building systems for most my life but never BI wire and or amping with 7.2 AVR gear. I'm really interested in your thoughts on what my approach should be for power quality and individual control. cheers! Subscription in!
No he's using several amps.
Svs towers😍
You know.. we can’t hear the video you showing right....we can’t hear the FX you hear lol
I will suggest go with soundbar because sound clearity well and not to much vire in home it was not looking well but you have big hall so buy home theater other wise in technology soundbar is cool
Darshan modi yes you are right soundbars are superior to separate hi-fi grade speakers with a high end AVR and outboard amplification. Thanks for pointing that out I'll trash my Dali Ikons and two subwoofers now phew...
Organize ur wires
The female lol that made me laugh.
Mafia voice..lol..joe pesci...lol
Dude you talk a lot and just shows us
Who's "The Female"?? LOL I hope she is a random stranger and not your wife!
I stood in your corner before but if you are shooting a vid about adding external amp stick to that and only that. This is your autobiography and it doesn't flow and it's very egotistical. Just shoot the vid with a 7.2 with another 7.2.
Get a decent tv or projector first.
Stop referring to your equipment as "he" .
That is weird man!
This guy is a rambling fool. Omg
Hahahaha lies