Lol it's just barca and Messi fans pushing the "football is washed" narrative because the top 3 players are madrid players og rather ballon dor. R9 won the ballon dor because of the world cup 9 goals in 14 games? Never won it Iver Henry with just 14 goals. Modric over ronaldo for just 9 goals and 7 assist
Unpopular opinion: When Messi and Cr7 were both 25, they had 5 ballon D’Ors and 4 UEFA Champions Leagues combined, Mbappé and Haaland have 1 CL and 1 WC combined and all of a sudden they’re the future goats. No one will ever surpass Messi or Cr7.
@@NitroFootythere’s plenty of little kids saying mbappé will be the goat so I can see why it seems like many people don’t recognize the reality of what messi and cr7 had done already
Fr, people just go off plain stats, not realizing mbappe was literally farming the french league, while messi was in prime la liga and ronaldo was literally playing as a midfielder
Not really modric ballon do’r comes to mind as a very narrative based ballon do’r other than that it been to the best player and the player with the stats and accolades
They ruined the damn sport. Those two were never intended to be this good they were both anomalies. Football is going back to its original form but they ruined it to the point that it won’t feel the same
Nah, the generation before them actually were even more legend-stacked. Of course the difference was Messi and Cr7 have been playing more efficiently than the greatest players before them. But the generation after them doesn't catch up to the skill and greatness of the 2000s squads and won't produce any Zidane oder R9.
Were the generation b4 Messi ajd Ronaldo that better or did Messi and Ronaldo make everyone from their generation look worse.@@dialektischabgefahrenerwel1654
Rodri should be in the conversation. One of the best teams in the world, Man city, totaly fall apart without him and he's doing great at the Euros. If Spain win it, he should be top 3 imo
@@jackbolland-tw6mi Rodri was by far the most impactful player in city this season…I never said he wasn’t solid…What I found funny was the fact that he said “city totally falls apart without him”…That is NOT true😂😂
Florian Wirtz, he had 40 goal/assist contributions across the whole season being leverkusens main creative and attacking outlet, didn't lose a single game he played in this season except for one, added in ending bayerns 11 title streak and helping leverkusen achieve their first bundesliga. Other than Wirtz, Bellingham and Vini are most desserving
Thats a good call, wirtz did well with club and country, and won the bundesliga. Though i think that loosing that final vs atalanta is a heavy blow for his chances
He deserve Euro final. Sadly unlucky with the bracket. He played against both Spain and ATALANTA, right? i almost argue about only lose 1 game in this season because mainly all Leverkusen player did except you put National team
Vini didn't under perform Ronaldinho had similar stats in 2006 Ronaldo and Messi just weren't human And suarez , lewandoski, van dijk , buffon , henry were also crazy and they never won the ballon d'or So that's why maybe people don't want vini to win
@PeterGrinninbellingham is not good, he should have been subbed off at half time against slovakia, hes lucky southgate is scared to sub off the big stars. He did nothing for 118 minutes other than that 1 moment. You don’t get ballon dor for number of goals, you get it for actual performances. Bellingham is a mediocre player
@@Sorrow..bro snuck in Yamal like we wouldnt notice 😂😂😂 .. open your mask barka dogs, is it not even shameful to say that someone who only score 5 goals his whole season while being a starter and winning as many major trophy as yourself who work in McDonalds deserves to be in the conversation of Ballon D’or 🤣🤣🤣 … You’re killing me with stupidity. It’s an award for the best player in the world, not the youngest player to ever get humiliated in important matches with his club.
I honestly dont think they’re putting up bad numbers, luis figo and others had similar numbers when they won their ballon d’or so its not too wrong, but the issue is that messi and ronaldo spoiled us. They made scoring 40 goals in a season look bad and 50-60 look normal. Although for the new generation I think haaland last year was good and shouldve won. Like really what else did the guy need to win and do to get the golden ball? He won everything Edit: Lmao so funny that you make one comment a out messi vs ronaldo and theres like 20 people arguing. Antony is the goat ggs also pessi and penldum both missed penalties but antony didnt. 🐐
Politic m8, in 2010 when iniesta won the world cup, they give it to Messi for individual performance But when haaland literally did everything, they give it to Messi fr winning the World Cup, just funny
@@geniusfootball8357 honesrly yea. Same with modric. He did decent in the world cup and won it over ronaldo, who had an outstanding season and shouldve won, but when iniesta does the same, oh yea it gotta go to messi
@@geniusfootball8357 Messi fully deserved the ballon d'or last year despite haaland getting a highscoring record. For missing the world cup( Not even taking part in the most important tournament of the year), haaland was doomed to fail. Mbappé would win the ballon d'or if France won the world cup. No player in the history of football won the ballon d'or in a world cup year if he didn't take part in it despite how great his achievement in club was. At the moment the world cup final sees Messi facing Mbappé, Haaland's chances to win were zero.
but you must see how messi and ronaldo scored those 50-60 vs how haaland scored lol. the ballon dor is inconsistent as hell, sometimes they look at individual stats, sometimes how the players play the game and sometimes the club trophies and other times the international trophies
@@NicoWilliamssssssye its so subjective. but i guess you could say that messi "carried" the argentinian team in the world cup. as for iniesta, he wasn't exactly the main man until the later games. modric idk why he was good but the entire croatian team was good, not just him.
Honestly, Lautaro Martinez should be in the conversation too. Hell even a favourite. The guy literally owns italian league and is currently Copa America's top scorer
You are correct. Martinez was the most important player for Argentina winning the Copa America. Also no player in Euro had any clear dominant performance for the whole tournament
I think belligol deserves it. To me it’s not even a question, Bellingham has all the Real Madrid achievements like Vinicius and adding getting in to the euro final. He scored big goals in big games, like the bicycle in the euros in the last minutes of the game to advance in the euros, and I remember against barca in el clásico. He got basically the same stats as Vinicius, goals and assists but being a midfielder which is even more impressive getting close to the number of goals Vinicius scored
Vinicius Jr. and Jude Bellingham are indeed strong contenders for the Ballon d'Or this year. Both have had impressive seasons with Real Madrid, contributing significantly to their team's success in La Liga and the Champions League. Jude Bellingham has been particularly outstanding, with his performances in the Euro 2024 boosting his chances. On the other hand, Vinicius Jr. remains a favorite due to his consistent performance and key goals in crucial matches. While their national team performances might not be as stellar, their club achievements keep them in the running for the prestigious award.
You're not giving Vini the Ballon d'or after that Bicycle kick by Bellingham. They don't make it to the final and potentially win without that legendary goal.
Vini was out for a couple months with injury. If he had played those games, he'd probably have closer to 30 goals. I do like how this season there's no clear favorite for the award, makes things interesting.
Nah vini for some reason is trash in regular la liga games even if he played he wont be scoring he only likes to show up in big games hopefully that changes next season
@@samlani1702 I guess because he doesn't need to play as hard against mid table or relegation teams. He only performs well in games he needs to like against the top La Liga teams and in the UCL knockouts because those are the games he needs to show up. And more often than not, he does
Exactly. Bringing up goals and assists are the reason why defensive players barely get any recognition for this award. Rodri has lost 1 match in 81. Somehow he isn't a forerunner. Losing 1 match in 81 is a stat that's up there with Messi and Ronaldo scoring 40+ g/a in a season. It clearly shows his impact on the pitch, his contribution. All the games Man city lost in the Prem last season....Rodri never played
Bellingham genuinely deserves it 23 goals and 13 assists as a midfielder is crazy and he also has the UCL, La Liga, supercopa, and maybe even the euros. Remember modric won the ballon dor with 6 goals 14 assists wc final and ucl, bellingham clears in this scenario
if youre talking about leverkusen, never forget granit xhaka, the dude LITERALLY ran the team and the midfield, which u said wirtz did. Hes also been the star player by far for switzerland, so i think xhaka should def be in the top 10 at least
@@NitroFooty but we're going the kroos route which is the same as the xhaka route except xhaka scores bangers as well and defends and captains properly
I think Bellingham deserves it because he pretty much carried England to the final and he saved England at the first match in the euro and he also did pretty well at Real Madrid
@@Luis-kv8zc not really they just lost to RM which is the best ever CL team (the only team expected to win CL every year for the last 20 years). MC still won EPL. Rodri can take it if Spain wins Euro.
Unpopular opinion: In my opinion this year the winner of Ballon d Or should be Dani Carvajal. He won Supercupa De España, LaLiga, Champions League and now won Euro 2024. He played incredible in every single match that he played. He deserves 100% Ballon d Or.
Might as well give it to me. I scored 573 goals, 513 assist. Won the UCL,premier league, and the FA cup this season all in my back garden. I’m just too good 😎
Vinicius failed in Brazil, only scores 5 goals in 5 years (ratio: 1 goal per year), ghosting in many matches with a rating below 7, it shows that he is not the best player in the world, does not deserve the Ballon D'or
It's time give ballon dor to defenders and midfielders Rudiger - League, UCL, Euro (loading) He's real madrid's most important player. Stopped haaland, scored decisive penalthy against Man city. Assisted match winning Goal against bayern munich. Rudiger is my ballon dor winner ✔️
The fact that no one mentions Daniel Carvajal is insane. He won La Liga and the Champions League while scoring in the final, and he's favorite to win the Euro's in which he also has already scored in
Defenders are constantly screwed over in Ballon d'Or conversations. It was already harsh for them to win, but now, post-Messi and Ronaldo, it has become a matter of "who scored the most?" so it will be impossible for a defender to actually win. Like, imagine if the Netherlands win the Euros: suddenly Frimpong would have had a glorious season where he only lost *one* match the whole time and won 3 trophies (with one lost final). But no one would seriously think "let's give him the Ballon d'Or".
I wouldn’t give it to him but he deserved a top 10 surely, for me he is the best defender of the season, not just the best right back but the best defenser, being great in defense and attack
No forward players deserve the Balon D'or for the 2023/24 season. This year's balon do'r should go to a midfielder. Why? In 2018, Modric won the balon do'r despite Messi and Cr7 scoring 50 goals for club and country. Modric won the ucl with madrid and reached the finals with his national team which they lost to France. Using that logic, no players scored 50 goals this season so Bellingham should win the balon d'or because he reached the finals of an international cup and won the ucl just like Modric back in 2018 while scoring and assisting a lot more than Modric. Or Rodri. If anybody else wins it, we can conclude that balon do'r has no value because it's just a popularity contest and has nothing to do with football
Is it me or do people just want vini or Jude Bellingham to win ballon dor with 24 Goal and 11 assists each while Luis Suarez back then had 89 G/A yet no ballon dor
@@MATHEUSAUGUSTO-rf7su exactly, the euros is a short tournament and nobody was talking about rodri winning the ballon d'or before spain won it. He may have been the best player for spain, but he was 100% NOT the best player of the season.
Vini was injured during the first half. What he was in the second half is a monster amongst men. He is clearly the best player in the world and nobody is close. Put some respect on Vini’s name. Now he was injured during the first half but he still deserves it. Jude on the other hand was elite goalscoring wise in the first half and elite in linking up and supporting forwards in the second half. He also deserves it. Kroos is just the maestro. If anyone else proposes anyone outside of Madrid players? Then it’s a joke
Carvajal is crazy underrated in this conversation. He won champions league and even did a goal in finals, won la liga, won supercopa, and now won euros with Spain. As a right back defender he has won several trophies and done serveral things that most football players never did this season.
People really under looking Lautaro Martinez, the dude reins supreme in Italian football, and, as of me writing this comment, is the top goal scorer of the copa America.
He's great but he didn't shine in WC and this season he can't bring Inter to at least UCL quarter despite dominating Serie A (he's been doing this for the last couple years though)
Vinicus because of how clutch he was, in the UCL he was insane which he won, scoring in the final, a reason haaland didn’t in the ballondor last season is because he didn’t score in finals, vini scored the winner against dortmund but since England won’t win the euros and Germany are out, so is France I think vini
I think Rodri should be one of the top contenders, premier league + euros winner and hes only lost 1 out of about the last 70 games he's played in, truly the best in the world on his position, rarly makes a mistake. And in my opinion he's one of the best examples of what a profesional footballer should be, no drama, teamplayer, doesn't let the fame go to his head, pretty sure he doesn't even use social media, I honestly wish all footballers were like that
It's not about the amount of G/A a player has, it's about how clinical and important those goals are. Suarez was a major UCL ghost while Vini is one of the most clinical ucl players I've ever seen. Even Messi and Ronaldo , most of those goals were just stat padding (they're still more clinical than vini)
Literally Marcus Rashford scored 30 goals and 10 assists and not even nominated last season despite finished 3rd , a league cup and a promising World Cup campaign
@@Leon玲央he’s the reason Real Madrid won la liga this season I mean it’s clear his level dropped after his injury in January but he also had to play a different role to help the team pr doesn’t win you trophies also what pr he’s been getting criticized far nor than he’s been getting praised
@@jegna4 I've seen more praise then critism tbh He is such a good player, but me personaly would not award him the Ballon d'Or, cause I thought towards the end of the season, he wasnt that great, some even say past 5 months. I hate. Vini Jr. but one could say he could be more worthy of the Ballon d'Or. Its hard in general this season
its mad how the serie A is not even looked at since lautaro is a possible ballon dor contender at the time of this video. He's not truly in top 5 talk and i argue he deserves to win the award after securing copa america and a treble for himself
Look guys, we need to take matters in our own hands. We need to push "Own Goal" for Ballon D'Or 2024. We need to make a point. Players need to step up. Currently, even "Own Goal" overshadows everyone.
We all know deep down who is gonna win the prize, even though rodri finished the season strong, the award relies heavily on the ucl and the performance across the whole season, Vini Jr outside of the 2 months he missed injured was simply a Balloon D'or Player.
It doesn't depend on the ucl, haaland had incredible stats and won everything he could and still didnt win balondor (even though i want vini to win everything points to rodri winning it)
@LuzesPiscam I could say the same about the euros because it doesn't entirely depend on it. The performance across the season heavily favours vini over rodri. He performed and made a mark on every big occasion last season.( hatrick in a supercup final against Barcelona, goal in a ucl final with an electrifying performance in both games) Imo, I don't think it's possible for Rodri to win it but I do think he's getting 2nd place which is great for a cdm tbh
@@bigchungus1886 Yeah, im rooting for vini since when it came to winning his team a trophy rodri underperformed when it came to winning his team a trophy against united and madrid
Well, Messi and Ronaldo were undoubetdly great, but it could be seen as modern defense and modern tactics slowing down goalscoring. Nowadays, teams play much more with posession and modern defense has become very well structured which limits goals and risk-taking. Honestly, I would put Mbappe for baloondor.
And it would be wrong. In 2019 Messi had 68 g/a, 45 in 2020, 61 in 2021 and 65 in 2022, all while being past his prime. Messi tore up all 3 decades of football, irregulardless of tactical prowess, styles of football, or whatever else have you. Dont even try that narrative, these new players simply arent on their level, like at all. Mbappe is 25 and isnt close to Ronaldo on a technical level let alone messi. We need to accept that we saw the absolute peak of football and we honestly may not see anything like it again as long as we live
Ppl are still comparing current Ballon D'or candidates to the standards of Messi and Ronaldo. Just be unbiased and choose who deserved it most, stop using club biases and player biases. If I win the treble and score 50+ goals I expect to win it, not because someone is liked the most that's why this award is so controversial
@@NitroFootyI'm going to be bold and mess up my prediction. Im going to either be a genius or an idiot. If England beats Netherlands Jude will win it definitely. 2 important finals and he was very important.There is no one else to give it to. It would be a clear cut Ballondor. The only way he can lose it is if England lose to Netherlands and Mbappe scores against the Netherlands. If Mbappe was decisive in that Final match vs the Netherlands he will win the Balondor because people are going to say as good as Jude is Mbappe is clearly the best player in the world, just wasn't in a good club. ( this is 2 days before the euro semifinals)
Just an important note, the ballon d'or award is for the best player in a season year no matter what the standard or level of the footballers in their present eras. A player can actually win the ballon d'or for what he did of good performance in a specific season and than retire the season after. So its not related to age, its related to the performance of the player in one season no matter its consistent or not
Ronaldo and Messi have ruined the sport with their sheer dominance. Think about it this way: If either of Messi or Ronaldo didn't exist, the other would have 12-13 ballandors
Ronaldo wouldve had 9 as he placed 2nd to messi 4 times messi would have 13, including 10 in a row as he wouldve won all ronaldos balon dors if ronaldo never existed
I mean what is the eligibility to win this? It’s just all voting right? So people will vote for whom they like or to whom the media is giving more attention
Another perspective: Vini Jr failed to score or assist against Costa Rica and Colombia, which resulted in Brazil finishing 2nd in their group. Vini Jr failed to even complete a single successful dribble against Costa Rica and Colombia.... Due to finishing 2nd in the group stage, Brazil were forced to face a strong Uruguay team. Brazil had to play this match without Vini Jr because he received 2 yellow cards in the group stage (lack of discipline).
I dont think its the Haaland, Mbappe and Vinicius generation that will be in the GOAT debate. It is probably Endrick, Yamal and Guler. We will have to wait another 7-8 years for that to truly surface
One thing this man hasn't notice is that football became more advanced it really depends on the team ur up against don't get me wrong the goats actually were caring good stats but now days players r well trained
Let’s be honest , we all know harry maguire deserves it this season
This guy knows ball
Finally someone who watches football
First smart person I have seen today
Yeah, first season without own goals🎉🎉🎉
He has more prem potms than anyone in this video(including haaland)
Give antony the ballon d'or. He was 3 goals away from a hattrick for fucks sake!
This guy knows ball
@@NitroFooty🧠
pele + maradona + cruyff + di stefano + zidane + R9 = 0 goals total in 2024
the goat antony (spinner version💀) = 1 goal! he deserve it!
@@MachoManEditz exactly, better than r9 🐐🐐🐐
@@MachoManEditzincredible
He deserves it
I think Messi and Ronaldo put the bar too high for ballon d'or.. like we unintentionally expect the other player to perform like them to win the award
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Dude you look like rashford 😂😂
@@susheelayadav6164 Nahh this ain't my face.. I saw this on insta someone edit rashford face😂
Lol it's just barca and Messi fans pushing the "football is washed" narrative because the top 3 players are madrid players og rather ballon dor. R9 won the ballon dor because of the world cup 9 goals in 14 games? Never won it Iver Henry with just 14 goals. Modric over ronaldo for just 9 goals and 7 assist
Dude you just copied what the video said
Unpopular opinion: When Messi and Cr7 were both 25, they had 5 ballon D’Ors and 4 UEFA Champions Leagues combined, Mbappé and Haaland have 1 CL and 1 WC combined and all of a sudden they’re the future goats. No one will ever surpass Messi or Cr7.
that's the definition of a popular opinion.
Messi and Ronaldo are both the goats.
I think that might be a popular opinion
@@NitroFootythere’s plenty of little kids saying mbappé will be the goat so I can see why it seems like many people don’t recognize the reality of what messi and cr7 had done already
Fr, people just go off plain stats, not realizing mbappe was literally farming the french league, while messi was in prime la liga and ronaldo was literally playing as a midfielder
Rodri is the most overlooked player of this year. He is brilliant, and needs to be in the conversation.
Absolutely man. I think he should honestly win it
I agree 100%.
Agreed
Got beaten by the two best candidates
@@MadridistaDeCono Spain will beat England and Brazil lost to Uruguay,international tournaments are more important that the ucl
The Ballon d’or is not about performance, it is about a bunch of journalists voting for a their favorite player that plays in a great club.
false
WTF is this
Ronaldo fans smh
Not really modric ballon do’r comes to mind as a very narrative based ballon do’r other than that it been to the best player and the player with the stats and accolades
Facts
They ruined the damn sport. Those two were never intended to be this good they were both anomalies. Football is going back to its original form but they ruined it to the point that it won’t feel the same
They really gave us unrealistic expectations lol
I got the same likes as Man City’s charges
Nah, the generation before them actually were even more legend-stacked. Of course the difference was Messi and Cr7 have been playing more efficiently than the greatest players before them. But the generation after them doesn't catch up to the skill and greatness of the 2000s squads and won't produce any Zidane oder R9.
@@dialektischabgefahrenerwel1654 I 💯% agree with you.
Were the generation b4 Messi ajd Ronaldo that better or did Messi and Ronaldo make everyone from their generation look worse.@@dialektischabgefahrenerwel1654
Rodri should be in the conversation. One of the best teams in the world, Man city, totaly fall apart without him and he's doing great at the Euros. If Spain win it, he should be top 3 imo
Facts, I should’ve included him
“Man city totally falls apart without him”…Jokes😂😂
@@Ghost_X_GhostTbf they are levels better with him than without him, that game at Villa Park happened because he wasn’t playing.
@@jackbolland-tw6mi Rodri was by far the most impactful player in city this season…I never said he wasn’t solid…What I found funny was the fact that he said “city totally falls apart without him”…That is NOT true😂😂
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We should give the Ballon d'or to Lewandowski. He was clinical in 2020, winning everything.
They need to retroactively give Lewa his 2020 ballon dor
@@JunmoQi They should take one from Leo and give to Lewandowski. This one goes to Jude.
@Hala_Madrid008 If Jude wins the ballon Dor this year without England winning the euros, it will go down as an All time robbery
@@ViniGotRobbedBlud thinks we can’t see the Hala Madrid in his name 😂😂😂
@@oddmaximus so am i wrong bro??
Florian Wirtz, he had 40 goal/assist contributions across the whole season being leverkusens main creative and attacking outlet, didn't lose a single game he played in this season except for one, added in ending bayerns 11 title streak and helping leverkusen achieve their first bundesliga. Other than Wirtz, Bellingham and Vini are most desserving
I will love it if Wirtz wins
Thats a good call, wirtz did well with club and country, and won the bundesliga. Though i think that loosing that final vs atalanta is a heavy blow for his chances
He deserve Euro final. Sadly unlucky with the bracket. He played against both Spain and ATALANTA, right? i almost argue about only lose 1 game in this season because mainly all Leverkusen player did except you put National team
Vini didn't under perform
Ronaldinho had similar stats in 2006
Ronaldo and Messi just weren't human
And suarez , lewandoski, van dijk , buffon , henry were also crazy and they never won the ballon d'or
So that's why maybe people don't want vini to win
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@PeterGrinninbellingham is not good, he should have been subbed off at half time against slovakia, hes lucky southgate is scared to sub off the big stars. He did nothing for 118 minutes other than that 1 moment. You don’t get ballon dor for number of goals, you get it for actual performances. Bellingham is a mediocre player
Bro if Bellingham or vini win its over ☠️🐸
@PeterGrinnin theyre both shit players, if were talking about purely individual performance then players like wirtz, musiala, yamal should be up there
@@Sorrow..bro snuck in Yamal like we wouldnt notice 😂😂😂 .. open your mask barka dogs, is it not even shameful to say that someone who only score 5 goals his whole season while being a starter and winning as many major trophy as yourself who work in McDonalds deserves to be in the conversation of Ballon D’or 🤣🤣🤣 … You’re killing me with stupidity. It’s an award for the best player in the world, not the youngest player to ever get humiliated in important matches with his club.
This guy: Nobody deserves the Ballon D'or
FIFA watching this: Someone call Messi. Tell him to attend the ceremony
Lol
Just a bunch of Madrid hating trolls, gotta live with the amazing season Madrid had; damn it must hurt to live in denial
@@Popwarthoglive with no treble😂 😂😂 every player flop at international
@@eavyeavy2864not belligol😂
I honestly dont think they’re putting up bad numbers, luis figo and others had similar numbers when they won their ballon d’or so its not too wrong, but the issue is that messi and ronaldo spoiled us. They made scoring 40 goals in a season look bad and 50-60 look normal. Although for the new generation I think haaland last year was good and shouldve won. Like really what else did the guy need to win and do to get the golden ball? He won everything
Edit: Lmao so funny that you make one comment a out messi vs ronaldo and theres like 20 people arguing. Antony is the goat ggs also pessi and penldum both missed penalties but antony didnt. 🐐
Politic m8, in 2010 when iniesta won the world cup, they give it to Messi for individual performance
But when haaland literally did everything, they give it to Messi fr winning the World Cup, just funny
@@geniusfootball8357 honesrly yea. Same with modric. He did decent in the world cup and won it over ronaldo, who had an outstanding season and shouldve won, but when iniesta does the same, oh yea it gotta go to messi
@@geniusfootball8357 Messi fully deserved the ballon d'or last year despite haaland getting a highscoring record. For missing the world cup( Not even taking part in the most important tournament of the year), haaland was doomed to fail. Mbappé would win the ballon d'or if France won the world cup. No player in the history of football won the ballon d'or in a world cup year if he didn't take part in it despite how great his achievement in club was. At the moment the world cup final sees Messi facing Mbappé, Haaland's chances to win were zero.
but you must see how messi and ronaldo scored those 50-60 vs how haaland scored lol. the ballon dor is inconsistent as hell, sometimes they look at individual stats, sometimes how the players play the game and sometimes the club trophies and other times the international trophies
@@NicoWilliamssssssye its so subjective. but i guess you could say that messi "carried" the argentinian team in the world cup. as for iniesta, he wasn't exactly the main man until the later games. modric idk why he was good but the entire croatian team was good, not just him.
Honestly, Lautaro Martinez should be in the conversation too. Hell even a favourite. The guy literally owns italian league and is currently Copa America's top scorer
You know ball.
And he scored a winning goal. Definitely deserves to be in the conversation
tap in merchant.
You are correct. Martinez was the most important player for Argentina winning the Copa America. Also no player in Euro had any clear dominant performance for the whole tournament
@@Mix.01-is5pkdid u watch most of his matches
Id go with jude, the kid just has an aura of magical talent
man stop bullying Kane cuz that might break his curse and we will then lose our favorite laughing stock
Hahaha
As a fan of Kane I was actually tricked by the first part 🗿
Loll
STILL BULLY KANE PLS
ure a funny guy
My friends said I was crazy when I said nobody deserves the Ballon D'or this year
Send them this lol
That’s like saying Fido and dhino didn’t deserve it
Your friend was right
Everyone says the same.
I think belligol deserves it. To me it’s not even a question, Bellingham has all the Real Madrid achievements like Vinicius and adding getting in to the euro final. He scored big goals in big games, like the bicycle in the euros in the last minutes of the game to advance in the euros, and I remember against barca in el clásico. He got basically the same stats as Vinicius, goals and assists but being a midfielder which is even more impressive getting close to the number of goals Vinicius scored
Seeing dominance in sports like F1 and tennis are normal. But seeing that in football is way too rare. Thats how good Messi and Ronaldo were
Vinicius Jr. and Jude Bellingham are indeed strong contenders for the Ballon d'Or this year. Both have had impressive seasons with Real Madrid, contributing significantly to their team's success in La Liga and the Champions League.
Jude Bellingham has been particularly outstanding, with his performances in the Euro 2024 boosting his chances. On the other hand, Vinicius Jr. remains a favorite due to his consistent performance and key goals in crucial matches. While their national team performances might not be as stellar, their club achievements keep them in the running for the prestigious award.
100 percent
You're not giving Vini the Ballon d'or after that Bicycle kick by Bellingham. They don't make it to the final and potentially win without that legendary goal.
Bro did you make this with AI or what? 💀
😂😂
@@tonytellingitlikeitis5708
Bellingham deserves to win the 2024 Ballon d'Or.
Vini was out for a couple months with injury. If he had played those games, he'd probably have closer to 30 goals. I do like how this season there's no clear favorite for the award, makes things interesting.
True
Wrong Media says vini,then it's vini
Nah vini for some reason is trash in regular la liga games even if he played he wont be scoring he only likes to show up in big games hopefully that changes next season
@@samlani1702 I guess because he doesn't need to play as hard against mid table or relegation teams. He only performs well in games he needs to like against the top La Liga teams and in the UCL knockouts because those are the games he needs to show up. And more often than not, he does
@@samlani1702just say you don’t watch Real Madrid play
Winning ballon d’or goes beyond most goals or trophies… they should only be a contributing factor, but by no means is it a limiting factor.
Agreed
Exactly. Bringing up goals and assists are the reason why defensive players barely get any recognition for this award. Rodri has lost 1 match in 81. Somehow he isn't a forerunner. Losing 1 match in 81 is a stat that's up there with Messi and Ronaldo scoring 40+ g/a in a season. It clearly shows his impact on the pitch, his contribution. All the games Man city lost in the Prem last season....Rodri never played
Bellingham genuinely deserves it 23 goals and 13 assists as a midfielder is crazy and he also has the UCL, La Liga, supercopa, and maybe even the euros. Remember modric won the ballon dor with 6 goals 14 assists wc final and ucl, bellingham clears in this scenario
Favorites:
1. Jude
2. Vini
3. Lautaro
4. Wirtz
5. Rodri
6. Foden
7. Mbappe
8. Kroos
9. Fede
10. Watkins
I like it
2:54 Toni crows
Vinicious scored in big games thats why people are saying its gonna be him
Clutch player
He is inconsistent, his average rating is just 7.38, ghosting in many games
if youre talking about leverkusen, never forget granit xhaka, the dude LITERALLY ran the team and the midfield, which u said wirtz did. Hes also been the star player by far for switzerland, so i think xhaka should def be in the top 10 at least
Xhaka was great but Wirtz has to be the focus if we are going that route
@@NitroFooty but we're going the kroos route which is the same as the xhaka route except xhaka scores bangers as well and defends and captains properly
Kyllian Mbappe ❌️
Killing him Bobby ✅️
Hahaha
I think Bellingham deserves it because he pretty much carried England to the final and he saved England at the first match in the euro and he also did pretty well at Real Madrid
It would be amazing if rodri won it
Imagine a DM winning the ballon dor immediately after the messi v ronaldo era ends
I’d love to see it
But why..? City underachieved by every mean this year. If France win the Euro should Tchouameni just randomly win the Balon Dor???
@@Luis-kv8zc because they would do anything to not see Madrid player win it. No matter how little they did compared to them
@Luis-kv8zc how exactly did City under achieve this year?
@@Luis-kv8zc not really they just lost to RM which is the best ever CL team (the only team expected to win CL every year for the last 20 years). MC still won EPL. Rodri can take it if Spain wins Euro.
Unpopular opinion: In my opinion this year the winner of Ballon d Or should be Dani Carvajal. He won Supercupa De España, LaLiga, Champions League and now won Euro 2024. He played incredible in every single match that he played. He deserves 100% Ballon d Or.
definitely a contender
5:00 “killing him, bobby” 💀
Lol
Might as well give it to me. I scored 573 goals, 513 assist. Won the UCL,premier league, and the FA cup this season all in my back garden. I’m just too good 😎
*521 goals
Vinicius failed in Brazil, only scores 5 goals in 5 years (ratio: 1 goal per year), ghosting in many matches with a rating below 7, it shows that he is not the best player in the world, does not deserve the Ballon D'or
Very Realistic Ending: Messi wins ballon dor for winning copa america and scoring 20+ goals in burger league
But ur daddy couldn't so shutup
Would be epic
Penalty to Argentina
I think only if does well in the last 2 games as well. Hasn't got his scoring boots on.
Never let blud cook
It's time give ballon dor to defenders and midfielders
Rudiger - League, UCL, Euro (loading)
He's real madrid's most important player. Stopped haaland, scored decisive penalthy against Man city.
Assisted match winning Goal against bayern munich.
Rudiger is my ballon dor winner ✔️
If there’s any year for a defensive mid or defenders, it’s this year
They have to get past Spain first💀
@@NitroFooty toni kroos had an incredible season
@user-dgh9397 even though I was supporting Germany, props to mikel merino for doing a bayer leverkusen like wirt-
@user-dgh9397 even though germany will not win the euros, props to Spain for doing a bayer leverkusen
The fact that no one mentions Daniel Carvajal is insane. He won La Liga and the Champions League while scoring in the final, and he's favorite to win the Euro's in which he also has already scored in
True but I don’t like him. 😂
Defenders are constantly screwed over in Ballon d'Or conversations. It was already harsh for them to win, but now, post-Messi and Ronaldo, it has become a matter of "who scored the most?" so it will be impossible for a defender to actually win.
Like, imagine if the Netherlands win the Euros: suddenly Frimpong would have had a glorious season where he only lost *one* match the whole time and won 3 trophies (with one lost final). But no one would seriously think "let's give him the Ballon d'Or".
from spain rodri deserves it more
I wouldn’t give it to him but he deserved a top 10 surely, for me he is the best defender of the season, not just the best right back but the best defenser, being great in defense and attack
No forward players deserve the Balon D'or for the 2023/24 season.
This year's balon do'r should go to a midfielder.
Why?
In 2018, Modric won the balon do'r despite Messi and Cr7 scoring 50 goals for club and country. Modric won the ucl with madrid and reached the finals with his national team which they lost to France.
Using that logic, no players scored 50 goals this season so Bellingham should win the balon d'or because he reached the finals of an international cup and won the ucl just like Modric back in 2018 while scoring and assisting a lot more than Modric.
Or Rodri.
If anybody else wins it, we can conclude that balon do'r has no value because it's just a popularity contest and has nothing to do with football
I agree
Rodri, Premier League and Euro Champion. Has been the best Midfielder in the world for the last 2-3 years and absolutely clutch in important moments
Is it me or do people just want vini or Jude Bellingham to win ballon dor with 24 Goal and 11 assists each while Luis Suarez back then had 89 G/A yet no ballon dor
Rodri is the one who deserves this award
I agree
Why do you think Rodri deserves it? If you're going to argue that the Euro is that important, then give it to Carvajal.
@@nicolalambo3842 the award is for the BEST PLAYER OF THE SEASON, not THE PLAYER THAT WON MORE TITLES
@@MATHEUSAUGUSTO-rf7su exactly, the euros is a short tournament and nobody was talking about rodri winning the ballon d'or before spain won it. He may have been the best player for spain, but he was 100% NOT the best player of the season.
@@nicolalambo3842 the fact that nobody was talking about rodri winning the ballon d'or before means he´s underrated
Vini is the best choice for this year's Balon d'or, and also it'll be the biggest slap in the face of all the racists and haters he's had to overcome
That Harry Kane joke won you a subscriber. Great video!
Vini was injured during the first half. What he was in the second half is a monster amongst men. He is clearly the best player in the world and nobody is close. Put some respect on Vini’s name. Now he was injured during the first half but he still deserves it. Jude on the other hand was elite goalscoring wise in the first half and elite in linking up and supporting forwards in the second half. He also deserves it. Kroos is just the maestro. If anyone else proposes anyone outside of Madrid players? Then it’s a joke
Carvajal is crazy underrated in this conversation. He won champions league and even did a goal in finals, won la liga, won supercopa, and now won euros with Spain. As a right back defender he has won several trophies and done serveral things that most football players never did this season.
People really under looking Lautaro Martinez, the dude reins supreme in Italian football, and, as of me writing this comment, is the top goal scorer of the copa America.
He’s been getting some shouts recently
He's great but he didn't shine in WC and this season he can't bring Inter to at least UCL quarter despite dominating Serie A (he's been doing this for the last couple years though)
He won the Copa América as the Top Scorer and scored the goal that won the Copa, i think he deserves it
When u realize that 2006-2019 was football prime, that’s when you known that everything has change 😔
Hell no. Recency Bias.
1990-2000 was the prime
@@BraboDmsSlc nah
@@BraboDmsSlc not even close
Vinicus because of how clutch he was, in the UCL he was insane which he won, scoring in the final, a reason haaland didn’t in the ballondor last season is because he didn’t score in finals, vini scored the winner against dortmund but since England won’t win the euros and Germany are out, so is France I think vini
Haaland didn't win because of the Messi bias. It wouldn't have made a difference if he scored a hat trick in the UCL final.
@@LiamPowelluuu2 true
Vini is inconsistent player, his average rating is just 7.38, ghosting in many games
I think Rodri should be one of the top contenders, premier league + euros winner and hes only lost 1 out of about the last 70 games he's played in, truly the best in the world on his position, rarly makes a mistake. And in my opinion he's one of the best examples of what a profesional footballer should be, no drama, teamplayer, doesn't let the fame go to his head, pretty sure he doesn't even use social media, I honestly wish all footballers were like that
3:35 Tbf Zidane almost won the 2006 Ballon d'Or as a retired player
The headbutt probably did not help
It's not about the amount of G/A a player has, it's about how clinical and important those goals are. Suarez was a major UCL ghost while Vini is one of the most clinical ucl players I've ever seen. Even Messi and Ronaldo , most of those goals were just stat padding (they're still more clinical than vini)
Fair vini is clutch
I think vini deserves as he’s contributed a lot in the champions league and alligators for Madrid even though his number’s aren’t that great
Fair
He was injured for half of the season, that's why his numbers aren't that "great"
He is inconsistent, his average rating is just 7.38
Maybe Jamal Musiala could win, he’s been exceptional at the euros and is consistent in both club and the international stage.
Facts
Literally Marcus Rashford scored 30 goals and 10 assists and not even nominated last season despite finished 3rd , a league cup and a promising World Cup campaign
Why the fuck would he have been nominated?
Even you scored 50/100, but everyone else score 40/100 or below, you are the best.
I see what you’re saying
Bellinghams PR is too good for him to not win the Ballon Dor
To be fair, he’s definitely close to winning it
Recently it’s all been hate
@@adrianbento3298 Nah, the glazing is bigger and was the whole season
@@Leon玲央he’s the reason Real Madrid won la liga this season I mean it’s clear his level dropped after his injury in January but he also had to play a different role to help the team pr doesn’t win you trophies also what pr he’s been getting criticized far nor than he’s been getting praised
@@jegna4 I've seen more praise then critism tbh
He is such a good player, but me personaly would not award him the Ballon d'Or, cause I thought towards the end of the season, he wasnt that great, some even say past 5 months. I hate. Vini Jr. but one could say he could be more worthy of the Ballon d'Or.
Its hard in general this season
phil foden is getting so overlooked, he is such a baller, sometimes he reminds me of messi
Phil Foden was FLOP of the tournament. He ain’t winning D’Or
After England and Spain have reached the final, rodri bellingham and kane have to be the frontrunners
Lmao this is hilarious after the euro final. Kane is absolute garbage, Bellingham was non existent, and Rodri was subbed half way through.
@moonknight2865 Rodri won player of the tournament.
ANTONY DESERVES THE BALLONDIOR , HE MADE 50APPEARANCES IN 50 MATCHES
Facts
its mad how the serie A is not even looked at since lautaro is a possible ballon dor contender at the time of this video. He's not truly in top 5 talk and i argue he deserves to win the award after securing copa america and a treble for himself
Why nobody is talking about Rodrigo Hernández? I think Rodri is the one who deserves the ballen d' or
he lost ucl and fa cup he only won premier league lil guy, hes not best for Spain at euros, Yamal, fabian ruiz are
Nice vid u deserve a sub
Thanks for the sub bro!
Give the Ballon d’Or to Van Dijk who deserve to win it back in 2019
Debatable
Or 2013
No he didn’t Messi was in his prime that year
@@Steph-ci1txRonaldo was better than Ribery that year
Messi deserve it
Either Mbappé or Rodri deserves the award
Nah this is legitimately one of Kroos's best season just check his defensive stats. His offense has always been impeccable.
Kroos control
I agree with you, they should just give it to Lewandowski to make up for when he actually deserved it.
Frfr
They could award him the 2020 one later. I heard they are planning something like this (I guess we will see next ceremony)
Nah Bellingham or vini deserve it.
Give it Rodri..man's been ballin for the past three years now
I really like the Rodri shout
the part with bellingham aged well..
I hope so
Ooo ok Elyyt I see you, glad to see you putting up these kinda views! ❤
Thanks my bro!
100% antony he was able to successfully hide man united from a place in the ucl absolutely world class
Bro is this a question messi will win it 😂,guys back me up .......,guys?.........
No Ronaldo gonna win it for 0 titles he won last season even in the camel league 😱🤯
@@Tojo_jzf you just might be right 🤔
Not this time tho and I’m a Messi fan
@@Tojo_jzfbro that was pre last season, I think neymar won too.
That means neymar flr the ballon d‘or
I think Rodri need to win it bro has been play good ❤
Agree
Ademola Lookman deserves the award ahead of Rodri !!!
If he didnt win it when he had the treble, what makes you think he’s winning with only the epl title
You are crazy bellinham and martinez far out performed him
great quality content, keep up the good work
Much appreciated
Look guys, we need to take matters in our own hands. We need to push "Own Goal" for Ballon D'Or 2024. We need to make a point. Players need to step up. Currently, even "Own Goal" overshadows everyone.
We all know deep down who is gonna win the prize, even though rodri finished the season strong, the award relies heavily on the ucl and the performance across the whole season, Vini Jr outside of the 2 months he missed injured was simply a Balloon D'or Player.
It doesn't depend on the ucl, haaland had incredible stats and won everything he could and still didnt win balondor
(even though i want vini to win everything points to rodri winning it)
@LuzesPiscam
I could say the same about the euros because it doesn't entirely depend on it.
The performance across the season heavily favours vini over rodri.
He performed and made a mark on every big occasion last season.( hatrick in a supercup final against Barcelona, goal in a ucl final with an electrifying performance in both games)
Imo, I don't think it's possible for Rodri to win it but I do think he's getting 2nd place which is great for a cdm tbh
@@bigchungus1886 Yeah, im rooting for vini since when it came to winning his team a trophy rodri underperformed when it came to winning his team a trophy against united and madrid
Well, Messi and Ronaldo were undoubetdly great, but it could be seen as modern defense and modern tactics slowing down goalscoring. Nowadays, teams play much more with posession and modern defense has become very well structured which limits goals and risk-taking. Honestly, I would put Mbappe for baloondor.
Fair
And it would be wrong. In 2019 Messi had 68 g/a, 45 in 2020, 61 in 2021 and 65 in 2022, all while being past his prime. Messi tore up all 3 decades of football, irregulardless of tactical prowess, styles of football, or whatever else have you. Dont even try that narrative, these new players simply arent on their level, like at all. Mbappe is 25 and isnt close to Ronaldo on a technical level let alone messi. We need to accept that we saw the absolute peak of football and we honestly may not see anything like it again as long as we live
If Spain wins the Euros, Lamine Yamal actually has a chance, it would be crazy, a ballon d'or at 16😮
Nah, just golden boy. Too early giving Ball on d'or before 21
Vinicious junior
I wouldn't be upset if Bellingham or rodri win it. I dont see anyone come close to it
Fair
Ppl are still comparing current Ballon D'or candidates to the standards of Messi and Ronaldo. Just be unbiased and choose who deserved it most, stop using club biases and player biases. If I win the treble and score 50+ goals I expect to win it, not because someone is liked the most that's why this award is so controversial
Antony and harry maguire deserve it
Yes
Who is here after jude Bellingham won the Ballan dor?
This will be a very popular comment in a few months if he does win lol
@@NitroFootyI'm going to be bold and mess up my prediction. Im going to either be a genius or an idiot. If England beats Netherlands Jude will win it definitely. 2 important finals and he was very important.There is no one else to give it to. It would be a clear cut Ballondor. The only way he can lose it is if England lose to Netherlands and Mbappe scores against the Netherlands. If Mbappe was decisive in that Final match vs the Netherlands he will win the Balondor because people are going to say as good as Jude is Mbappe is clearly the best player in the world, just wasn't in a good club. ( this is 2 days before the euro semifinals)
Am here before he won the ballon dor
Who is here after Rodri won the ballon dior?
Had like 10 good games in laliga
You have a great personality for these kinds of football videos. Thumbs up.
That means a ton to me bro
Just an important note, the ballon d'or award is for the best player in a season year no matter what the standard or level of the footballers in their present eras. A player can actually win the ballon d'or for what he did of good performance in a specific season and than retire the season after. So its not related to age, its related to the performance of the player in one season no matter its consistent or not
What a great video bro 🤩
Thank you!
Neymar saving money to buy balland'or💀
💀💀💀Underrated comment
Lol
Ronaldo and Messi have ruined the sport with their sheer dominance. Think about it this way: If either of Messi or Ronaldo didn't exist, the other would have 12-13 ballandors
Ronaldo wouldve had 9 as he placed 2nd to messi 4 times messi would have 13, including 10 in a row as he wouldve won all ronaldos balon dors if ronaldo never existed
its Jude Bellingham for me. he takes 2-way soccer to an unmatched level.
jude is balling
Why do people say that? He doesn't do much defensively
Lautaro Martinez deserves it he scored 5 goals in the copa america and one in the final and won trophies with inter milan
honestly yah
It's a PR and Agenda Award anyway, so give it to Messi.
If you know you know.
I don’t disagree with most of the ballon dor awards in the past 20 years
I mean what is the eligibility to win this? It’s just all voting right? So people will vote for whom they like or to whom the media is giving more attention
@@abinsjaison8879 exactly.
@@hakaishin101 Check stats before saying anything online
@@NitroFooty2021 should been Lewandowski
I hope you make it big nitro good luck 🍀
Thanks bro!
I think Vini jr deserves ballon d'or. When he couldn't play match against Uruguay, Brazil was thrown out in competition
Another perspective:
Vini Jr failed to score or assist against Costa Rica and Colombia, which resulted in Brazil finishing 2nd in their group. Vini Jr failed to even complete a single successful dribble against Costa Rica and Colombia....
Due to finishing 2nd in the group stage, Brazil were forced to face a strong Uruguay team. Brazil had to play this match without Vini Jr because he received 2 yellow cards in the group stage (lack of discipline).
I dont think its the Haaland, Mbappe and Vinicius generation that will be in the GOAT debate. It is probably Endrick, Yamal and Guler. We will have to wait another 7-8 years for that to truly surface
One thing this man hasn't notice is that football became more advanced it really depends on the team ur up against don't get me wrong the goats actually were caring good stats but now days players r well trained
Kroos to win Euros and then ballon D’Oro
I would love to see a player retire on their ballon D’Oro season!
I know I said that could be a bad look for the sport, but it would kinda be badass for Kroos
He’s gonna retire so that’s not possible
@@NitroFootyhow would it be bad for the sport?
@@PokemonShowdownEnjoyerwhy?
W channel
Thanks bro!
Should be Bellingham, Vini, or maybe even Kane.
I think Kane has to win something before he can get it imo
@@NitroFooty fair
Kane 😂
Kane do u even watch football bro ?
Vini jr
Messi and Ronaldo are beats, scoring more than 40 goals a season as wingers is insane. The standard is way too high for others now
The problem is that the ballon d'or has become a golden foot + popularity contest. What about defenders and midfielders .
Facts
Nunez... ffs. I don’t see anyone else
Darwizzy 🇺🇾
@@NitroFooty Ademola Lookman deserves the award ahead of Nunez