expect it's very missleading since the success rate is from 21/22 season when he only played 700 minutes. Also i don't know where he got the 6.1 his actual highest is 4.9. His career average is 57.1%
@@Ares_pbhe does marketing for gambling in Brazil despite gambling being forbidden in the country. It looks like he really needs the money. It's weird. He probably spends Millions of dollars a month with BS like onlyfans or something.
@@Ares_pb O Neymar apanhou tanto fora de campo da mídia que o que ele mais quer é não ter que dar satisfações. Ele ainda deve tentar mais uma Copa e depois é o fim. Eu tenho certeza que se ele tivesse vencido a Copa de 2022 ele teria aposentado de futebol.
Messi scored 91 goals in 1 year but goalscoring is only like 10% of what he does on the pitch. Best passer and dribbler I have ever seen, creative genius, and he does all that seemingly effortlessly. It's not a coincidence he won everything in football 🏆
@@Nintevaaapa footballia, BCE sportsflix try these websites Although all of messi’s matches arent available about 1024 matches are available in footballia Lol i spent half of my day there watching maradona and messi old matches Its mesmerising and beautiful
Ronaldo is the peak of human perfection and shows what hard work and determination pushed to the limit can achieve. Messi is what God made to humble us.
Hmmm when you don't want to accept the hard of someone (Behind social media) , you will consider that God created 😂😂 Messi also has worked much harder (even than Ronaldo) the only thing he didn't do was "posting them on Media for followers!!!!
You can be a CR7 fan and recognize Messi's greatness. Never understood this childish opposition tbh... You might prefer Ronaldo's style, character, impact, successes and appreciate Messi's incredible achievements at the same time
@@jeromebesnaud3030 Exactly, the thing is, Ronaldo shows what we could reach if we actually worked hard for our dreams, at least thats how i see it and i like about him, Messi is just pure unbelieaveble genius that tbh is not realistically achievable and you just have to sit and enjoy
Messi is so ridiculous that years will go by and he'll be studied in University and every sports matrix. The Mythical being. The Greatest there ever is, the Greatest there ever was, The Greatest there ever will be! 🐐
And there is a self proclaimed goat ronaldo Who you can see only on goals based charts😂 but there will be messi in that chart too😂 ofcourse Messi is a statistical anomaly it was already proven in 2019, there is a debate video of messi vs ronaldo just check it out messi easily light years ahead of ronaldo
Disagree...what CR7 achieved clearly far outdoes what Ney did numbers and trophies wise, but looking at Neymar's style, no way is CR7 anywhere close to his level, Neymar is a true football player and could've been the goat with better ethics and career management.
@@sumomaster5585Nah forget their careers as PLAYERS Ronaldo is closer to Messi than he is to Neymar and don't take this as an insult, it's a compliment if anything
@@spxdy6780 Yes I did, as players Ronaldo's attributes are more important than Neymar's yes Neymar wins in most of the attributes when they're compared(playmaking, passing, dribbling, overall technical ability, game IQ e.t.c) Ronaldo isn't far behind, but where Ronaldo wins in goalscoring, overall athletic ability it isn't close.
@@sumomaster5585Yes he is lmfao, You can't compare a poucher to someone who plays as deep as neymar in numbers, are gonna hahe lukaku above Maradona? no obviously, Ney clears CR7 in a lot of stats
The stats are true 💯. I already knew messi's dribbling Stats. it's mind blowing. Y'all should watch messi's old matches full video. Some incredible stuffs are not in highlights
Fraud vedio.bro last 10 years looking cr7 was 30 year old in 2015 and after that he was just box player. Messi is better progresser but cr7 is so low cuz you too like old cr7 for many analysis. Iam not saying cr7 will be close in stats but hes so low cuz u took kast 10 years which he was too old
Maradona 1986 World Cup is that high because Messi and Neymar's stats cover their whole career whereas Maradona in the World Cup was his best prime. He never ever repeated the level he had in the World Cup If football loved anybody then it would definitely be Maradona. One of my favs and my fav to watch when he has the ball
@@theantithesis-q4x I know that. He was Maradona afterall. But his World Cup level was godly and he never got at that level ever again. Maradona was Maradona in few matches and in others he wasn't that good. He was very moody. But in World Cup he just went god mode
Anyone who thinks Ronaldo is better than Messi clearly doesn’t watch full matches and understand the game. They just base their opinion off goals in the Champions League knockout stages. Messi is as good of a goal scorer as Ronaldo, yet is so clear of him and every other player in every other regard.
People often laugh at me when i say Zizou was a bit overrated but this actually supports my opinion. I am in my 40s so i was an adult and well aware during his career. Don't get me wrong: i would still put him in the top 15 of All time, He was great but He is not on the Level of messi, Maradona, R9 or Dinho. The reason i belive people see him a bit better is because He was clutch in Worldcup and CL finals and scored there. But if you watch his whole career including Clubs you will see what i mean. For example i think iniesta is at least on the same Level as Zidane.
Fraud vedio.bro last 10 years looking cr7 was 30 year old in 2015 and after that he was just box player. Messi is better progresser but cr7 is so low cuz you too like old cr7 for many analysis. Iam not saying cr7 will be close in stats but hes so low cuz u took last 10 years which he was too old
I mean you can always weight forward passes and started dribbling as much as ko cl goals, but then you dont know fotball. Obviously he just pulled out Messi‘s best stats, but that result will also show up if you compare them in headers or 25+m goals… quote: „Dont trust statistics you didnt fake by yourself“
@@robertofschutz466I mean you have a point. But when you understand football deeply you understand why these stats matter. It's not that the guy chose the stats that favor Messi, it's just that Messi is better on the stats that ACTUALLY MATTER. That's why I don't take serious anyone saying "He can't score headers or bicycle goals, etc". Because at the end of the day scoring is scoring, doesn't matter how. But HOW you get to score is what matters and no one scores AND makes his team mates score like Messi.
@@reclutacontramontina5354 I mean playing good headers shows that you can convert any ball into goals, Messi does not but he needs good deep passes not crosses. Furthermore playing back passes isn’t as important and difficult as scoring goals. You saw his performances even in what you call 10/10 games: against France he lost the ball absolutely stupid before the 2:2, against Chelsea his missed a penalty and played shit and also lost the ball before 1 goal. He isn’t that good in important as Ronaldo. Doing back passes against Grenada isn’t NEARLY as hard as scoring bicycles vs Juve. And in the video above Ronaldo missed a penalty in an unimportant league match. Messi for example missed against Chelsea in the UCL and against CHILE in the Copa when it was important😂
For those who know football it's clear that in football, he is unbeatable Ronaldo is popular and like idolize him for his work ethic. He is one of my idols. And idols of many. But in terms of football it's Messi over Ronaldo anyday if you know anything about football.
Btw youe music is a bit too loud in this vid. I hope you re upload this video cuz we can see your hardwork and you are atleast giving some ball knowledge to people with open minds who want to accept the truth rather than just being biased and blind
Agreed, it’s a shame that people so often fight about this, you can’t mention Ronaldo without people saying he’s better than Messi, but Ronaldo is spectacular, there’s nothing wrong with him not being even close to Messi,Messi is just the best in history, far above any player ever, ain’t no shame in being second to THAT
So, You got PhD at knowing football? No player is better than one another, all of those legends are the same . The only thing that is comparing them is you fans and your useless opinions and stating it like its a fact. IMO , Ronaldinho clears both Messi and Ronaldo but others might disagree. At the end of the day, It is just your fking opinion and nobody know shit. So, stop acting like you are fking expert and everything you said is fact 😑 It is just your opinion.
Yeah, I think it was Peter Crouch who said that he genuinely loses respect for people's understanding of football if they think Ronaldo is better than Messi, which is how I've always felt too. Messi is just so much better at dribbling, passing, playmaking, while still matching Ronaldo for goals.
People aren’t talking enough about how crazy that Johan Cruyff stat is. The man created the football that made Messi… maybe he isn’t the goat of football but he definitely is the legend of legends!
And also this guy put Pelé’s 1970 season, but he was almost retired in that year. I would love to see some charts with Zico and Ronaldo phenomenal too. But this video is already a masterpiece
This video sums up perfectly the reality of football, but also the debate of Messi vs Ronaldo. Ronaldo is one of the best players in history, no one doubts it. He is a goal-scoring machine, a work maniac, and a man who can turn a game around if he wants to. But the best player to exist is Messi by far. We have never seen anything like him, and never will. He is football in a player. I have the most admiration for Ronaldo, and you cannot discredit the man. But Messi is different. I am so glad I was able to see them play, and forever thankful to God for it. Good video man.
@@brettervonkanada6102 no, ruined by Barca overall...if he had the same 2011 team around him with that maturity, man...that would've been the finest art of the game
The more one starts understanding football (not just somw edits or reels of some very rare highlights of any player) they start appreciating Messi more and more. And if they are open minded and ready to accept the truth then for them Messi becomes the greatest player they have witnessed. For me Messi is the best since I have seen football bcuz comparing with those whom I have never seen is unfair
@NONAMEinfinity But when most coaches agree its hardly an opinion and the more deeper you dive into the stats the picture becomes even more clear, not to mention since 2009 Messi has won like 52% man of the match 😲, that's quite insane isn't it? The second best is Ronaldo with an impressive 30%.
@@Lemjj why are you assuming he is challenging the facts, he simply made a joke about the music beinv too loud you clown. You Messi or Ronaldo die hard fans are hilarious.
It is time to realize that Messi and Ronaldo are great not because of their achievements, but because of the consistency (at least 15 years) with which they have delivered those achievements. Everything they have done has been also done by other players, but over much shorter periods of time.
Big respect to Messi, Cristiano and Neymar, they really showed how they're in a league of their own. Loved the Maradona, Pele and Cruyff stats although they were from cherrypicked famous seasons they really showed their greatness at their prime. Goddamn this must've been a tough watch for the Messi haters out there
Fraud vedio.bro last 10 years looking cr7 was 30 year old in 2015 and after that he was just box player. Messi is better progresser but cr7 is so low cuz you too like old cr7 for many analysis. Iam not saying cr7 will be close in stats but hes so low cuz u took kast 10 years which he was too old
on the contrary; these didn't account for Messi's prime of 2012 as the study he is following goes after 2017. if you calculate every single stat since they started; Messi would be on an upper echelon beyond any other player in the history of the game. The 120 Perf 10/10 score was just his last 14 seasons which doesn't contain the mindboggling 91 goal calendar year from 2012
@@Miuranger1 Superteam in your imagination. Neymar was injured, shit defense. You are saying its like Messi is the problem. How good was Real Madrid against Messi Barca then? Conceding a hattrick against a 20 years old with the so called galacticos is crazy man, same for the offside goals somewhere in the three peat.
@@WaterMelonsAreGud He was the problem. Psg made the finals and Semis before him with Mbappe Di maria and Neymar but he comes they don't get past of Round of 16. Funny how mbappe has his best season when the ball hogs like Neymar and messi have left.
@@Miuranger1 Your logic tells me you know nothing about football. With your logic, Ronaldo is Portugal’s problem, when Ronaldo played in the Wc 2022, they lost to Korea and Morocco but when he was benched, they smashed the Swiss. Not to mention Messi at Psg was way better than Ronaldo at Man United second time. Stats don’t lie. Man united With Sir Alex in 1998 won the treble but when Ronaldo arrives they only win the Ucl, so i guess he is useless.
Among humans, Neymar is the most brilliant of his generation and fights side by side with legends and the others goats football, it's a shame that people prefer to look at whether or not he won the Ballon'dor than see your game on the field Brazil's last games without him only demonstrate how superior he is to other Brazilian players, even though he has played as a midfielder for almost 5 years for Brazil sinceramente 2018/2019, he has more than 54% of the goal participations in Brazil since 2010, and if we only count the period in which he played as a left winger, center forward, second striker, false 9, he has more than 60% contribution in goals
@@Cr7isgoat4724 damn, the one who's actually butthut is you. I know it's very hard to digest that CR7 is nowhere CLOSE to being the GOAT. He's further away from Neymar than Neymar is close to Messi. Thanks for the stats for clearing things up and showing these mor0nic fans their place lmao
When someone says: "It's not statistics dude, it can't be explained by a bunch of numbers". I answer: "Yes, it's statistics, it's always statistics, you just don't see them."
@@dontmesswiththeinsomniacThe thing is Messi is that good that even statistics not giving him enough credit, are enough to put him above the rest. He's not just above the rest, as the stats suggest, he's way over what stats can even measure...
Wow, I have been a Messi fan my whold life but I never realised he was this versatile and outrageously above everyone in certain stats. Great video, keep it up :)
00:17 It’s not common to present data on a scatter plot without the x variable as the plot might fail to provide other context regarding the data point position. Apparently, OP wished to explain that CR7 statistically scores more than other elite footballers in UCL knockout stages with an outlier on the scatter chart.
@@rounakgoswami2901 Box plot might not be a good alternative to the scatter plot in visualising data. If my memory serves me correctly, a box plot consists of first, median, third quarters, maximum, minimum and outliers. The goalscoring data displays the total number of goals scored in the past UCL knockout rounds by a set of elite players. However, a box plot is used to compare categorical data like genders or test results by showing their statistical distributions. The number of goal scored in past matches is a continuous historical data that cannot be analysed in a categorical framework. A good example of using box plot on football is to analyse the performance in major European football leagues in a given season. By comparing the distribution of goal shots or differences across UCL, UEL and UECL, we may get some interesting insights on their respective competitive level.
Box plot might not be a good alternative to the scatter plot in visualising data. If my memory serves me correctly, a box plot consists of first, median, third quarters, maximum, minimum and outliers. The goalscoring data displays the total number of goals scored in the past UCL knockout rounds by a set of elite players. However, a box plot is used to compare categorical data like genders or test results by showing their statistical distributions. The number of goal scored in past matches is a continuous historical data that cannot be analysed in a categorical framework. A good example of using box plot on football is to analyse the match performances of major European football leagues in a given season. By comparing the distribution of goal shots or differences across UCL, UEL and UECL, we may get some interesting insights on their respective competitive levels.
@@hermanjacobs4425 Yes correct.. box plot can be used for comparison across tournaments... But even if applied, individually -it can help to see the playerwise distribution of UCL knockout goals which has some mean, median, IQR and also outlier and hence can show the level of outlier that CR7 is.. Like how many times the IQR etc
i’m not a statistician, but x does not seem relevant, as the data is unidimensional. I would guess he only expanded the x axis was to fit the players’ names
Conclusion for those busy people: Messi is statistically better, along with playstyle . The history proves itself why he's the best of all time. Hope this helps.
I am a fan of ronaldo and always will be but i sure do admit that messi is simply out of this world ..and thanks for putting Neymar's incredible feats into perspective..it really shows why many consider him as the 3rd best of this generation.
Neymar is the whole package, legendary flair and enterteiment, while still being highly effective to the game. Messi is just our of this world really. Great video man!
Ronaldo has been idols of many because what he does is achievable with extreme hardwork, dedication and work ethic. Obviously talent is very important too. Ronaldo in earlier days was also one of the most talented guy. His talent is undermined because his rival Messi was probably the most talented player in the history of football. Messi on the other hand is unachievable. Better don't try to compete or be like him. It's impossible
Those cherry picked WC performances can't be compared to whole career statistics. It's like if a youngster plays one game only and scores, you wouldn't have expected him to keep a 1.0 goal per match performance through an entire season, let alone a career, but he's gonna have a better rate than any of the regular starters that season. So yeah, interesting to see, but there is no deep meaning to them.
If anything you’re comparing their prime, Maradona’s highest high was the 86 WC, before and afterwards he was great, legendary even, but never that peak Same with Zidane, who often as it was said back then, “took off games”, ghosting league matches and generally being inconsistent throughout a season, with his highest highs only on a few matches in a few tournaments Or of course players with really short primes like Ronaldinho, who hit a ginormous ridiculous peak, then fizzled out progressively If anything, that just highlights Ronaldo, Neymar, and mostly Messi, being at the top of the world by far for like 14 seasons, something unprecedented in history, and that I doubt will ever again happen
@@theannoyedlink5153 Being at the top with poor competition isn't the impressive stat you think it is. Zidane played in an era filled with legends in almost every big team, while Messi, Ronaldo and Neymar dominated in a poor generation of players. Also cherry picking one world cup performance over a whole career is misleading, I don't even think Zidane's 98 world cup was his best performance especially after missing one game for a red card. His 2006 might actually be better, while his Eurp 2000 might be his peak. Take Neymar, Messi and Ronaldo's national team performances and their stats drop, they barely accomplished anything for their national teams.
@@55TheOracle55yes because reaching the copa america final 6 times and winning it twice,winning the finalissima,reaching 2 world cup finals and winning one,becoming your country's top scorer and having the most g/a in world cup history is nothing,definetely not impressive.
@@55TheOracle55 You realize how good Messi and Ronaldo's performance has been in the last decade and a half when you see how "football connoisseurs" have been convinced that those 15 had poor players... Ozil, Pogba, Iniesta, Xavi, Neymar, Ribery, Robben, Bale, Modric, Kroos, Hazard, Ibra, Lewandowski.............) Those two shifted the standard of (high performance footballer) up to an unhealthy level for the rest of humanity. It's like being addicted to drugs and thinking life has no value without them. 🤣
@@user-vt3qw5ql8b I assume you're talking about Messi, he was always known for not performing as well for his national team compared to Barcelona. This is a fact. The Argentine national team performance is another story, that's a team accomplishment. But winning 2 and losing 4 is again not a positive stat if that's what you're insinuating. Most of those very same losses were a result of Messi underperforming in clutch situations, further proving my point. Even the world cup win was heavily pushed thanks to the Quatari hosts...they lost to freaking Saudi Arabia in their opening match, like really? Being top scorer and assister is about longevity, because of how much longer he's played compared to others. And he only broke this record thanks to 4 penalties that were awarded at the shady Quatari world cup.
I have a friend who is basketball fan from his childhood then from about 4 years ago he starting to follow football too. The World Cup ended, when the final match concluded he said 'when someone watch football highlights anyone can idolize different players, but when you actually watched the game then you see the detailed statistics you can't ignore how ridiculously amazing Messi is'
What’s insane about that last stat where it’s based on the total value added to a players team, it only dates back to 2017 and Messi was at an older age and STILL had the top seasons out of everyone by a mile, but again what makes it crazy is imagine if it tracked Messi in the DEAD OF HIS PRIME!!!!!!!!! I couldn’t imagine how insane his total value added to his team per game and season would be!
Messi never robbed a single ballon dor. If Ballon dor was actually given to the best player in the world in a year Messi would've won it every year from 2009 to 2023. Hes just too good
@@pablobuquet2534 I repeat, every single season since 2009. Ronaldo or any other player has never been a better player than Messi during those years, except for 2022 benzema.
2013,14,16,17,18 All those seasons his individual statistics were miles ahead of others. But just because his team didn't manage to win the UCLs, the Perez PR did their work and robbed Messi of maybe at least 4 ballan d'ors
If anyone mentions that someone scored more goals than him that year, I ask them to look at the overall statistics, and not just goals scored. Heck even in the goals scoring area, he is above Ronaldo with better goals per game ratio and better per 90 ratio. Let's not talk about the midfielder aspect of Messi's game, otherwise Ronaldo would never stand a chance
Only thing Ronaldo's fan brag about is the number of goals, and he is not better in even that field. He has more goals simply because he has started his career 3 years earlier than Messi.
People complaining about the music being too loud... But I see what you are aiming to do... You try to narrate as a hip-hop rappers... It's a refreshing approach. Kudos to you ❤
Once I said to my friend that if you think Zidane is the best you have seen than you never understood the quality of Ronaldinho and Ronaldo Nazario. And I have also said to my friend once that Johan Cryuff was Zidane on Steroids. Actually he is obsessed of Zidane so I tend to give him a reality check. For me Cryuff was better than almost every legend you have named except Maradona. Just because he didn't win the World Cup people don't recognise him as the top 3 now.
@@JoeTkrYT yeah it's upon what you like Cryuff was way more consistent and was very elegant But Flair of Maradona was unmatched too Messi is like a hybrid of both It's just what style you like the most😊 We should not forget that the chart showed Maradona's prime(which was in World Cup) and Cryuff's prime too(Cryuff was also in his prime in that World Cup. When a player like Beckenbauer says that we won the World Cup but the better player was Cryuff, it just shows what his level must have been). Whereas the stat shown of Messi represented Messi's entire career and not just his prime. So I believe he would also be up there, personally better than Maradona statistically in his prime. But Cryuff was in a league of his own so I don't know where will he stand compared to Cryuff.
@@Inquisitive_Nomad Ye but i think messi is on its on top, i didnt talk about him because hes on another level like someone said once there should be two ballon dors one for messi and the other one for the rest, cruyff is the only one who is fairly close to messi but i think he still doesnt stand a chance even tho i love him
Johan Cruyff is a legend because of how he changed football forever, his legacy as a manager and the style he created, a style that derived Barça’s style, Gergenpress, Flick’s Bayern, Ten Hag’ Ajax, Van Gaal, pretty much every team that plays great football has a style that can be traced back to Cruyff, which is absolutely legendary on its own, but that often overshadows just how good he was For me it’s Messi, Maradona, Cruyff, R9, in that order, 5th and the following it can be discussed and argued, but the top 4 is untouchable
This is why I say the casual fan who watches football at the most casual level would prefer Ronaldo, but people who watch football at the deepest level, the ones with the most ball knowledge know that Neymar is closer to the goat Messi, than Ronaldo is
😂😂 bro thought he was cooking but seeing your opinion my question is do you even watch football and saying Neymar being better better player than Ronaldo is just diabolical ,a player is made by three things,1 consistency 2. Carrer achievment 3 individual skills or talent like ( dribbling ,passing,iq , etc) and a bonus that is hardwork and if we see all this messi is the best player but the second best is no doubt chrisitiano ronaldo ,( buddy they don't call him bully of the big boys for no reason)
@@VolkMate i can perfectly hear what hes saying and i dont hear how can the music volume be an issue, also making graphics for a video its the meaning of editing and the graphics were really good whit smooth animations, it takes alot of time to edit these kind of videos
The greatest eye opening video ever made in Football. Exposes all of those fake fans and trolls out there. The crazy thing is these are stats post 2017.
As a Data Scientist, I think this video serves as a reminder to everyone that just because you can read statistics doesn't mean you understand it. I explain below.
Futbolistics makes severe fundamental errors in his interpretations of these statistics. Most notably he believes compound statistics such as those used by Whoscored and (some other random Data Scientist) are reliable measures. Unfortunatley they are not, because by compounding multiple variables you lose focus on the variables that truly matter. For instance scoring a goal or making a goal line tackle is almost infinitely more impactful to the team than any other statistic (like dribbles/90), but its weight isn't represented as such. Hence, when you combine 200 variables together, the value of things that truly matter are extremely diminished. Additionally, he chooses not to show you assist and chance creation statistics when talking about creativity, which is absolutely ridiculous. Players like Muller, Benzema, Beckham and Xavi are thus nowhere to be seen. Sure progressive passes and progressive carries are important, but only within the context of the players position- notice how there are zero defenders or strikers on this list because it is midfielders and wingers who would have the highest numbers for this statistic. While Messi is clearly the most talented player to ever play the game, the improper choice of methodology here is overstating his impact by compounding his strengths that might not have as a significant true impact on the game. Muller and Xavi are perfect counter examples here because although they have an insane impact on games, they'll lose out because they don't perform enough dribbles or take ons/90. If you want to go even further, metronomic midfielders like Scholes and Pirlo are some of the most impactful players in a game, but this statistical methodology will completely ignore them because they spend part of their game protecting possession and dictating the pace of the game. Moral of the story, compound statistics is generally useless in football analysis. The way you understand players is by both watching them and looking at how individual statistics fit into their general play.
@@sssf55Also, different leagues have different play styles. For example more goals are scored in a Bundesliga match than other top 5 leagues. But these stats will never take these variations into account.
The biggest what if moment of football in history will remain: What if ronaldo and messi played together? An alien playmaker with an alien finisher/striker!
@@GeorginioballBut Messi is the best playmaker among the greatest goal scorers and he's the best goal scorer among the greatest playmakers. Then you have people saying he's not a complete player smh...
@@Georginioball His haters say he's not complete. Of course he's not the best playmaker nor the best goal scorer, but he's at the very least third best in every category of football (not counting defenders and GK of course).
@@reclutacontramontina5354 I haven’t seen one person in my life saying he’s not a complete player mate :))). I agree that he’s one of the most complete forwards but he’s not at least 3rd in EVERY category outside of defensive and gk. There are better passers, faster players, more physical, etc
Now someone is using stats to explain more on football. I love it. We as football fans too often argue based on emotions instead of a comparison of many different stats like this guy is doing not just one like others do.
Fraud vedio.bro last 10 years looking cr7 was 30 year old in 2015 and after that he was just box player. Messi is better progresser but cr7 is so low cuz you too like old cr7 for many analysis. Iam not saying cr7 will be close in stats but hes so low cuz u took last 10 years which he was too old
Bro this is video is so good that I have subscribed you instantly after finishing the video and starting seeing your other videos . Incredible video and information, infact I was disappointed that the video was completed so soon !
Great video, I follow the NBA and I see this type videos all the time and it's very good to understand the greatness of the best to ever do it. Finally someone did the same for football. Great video and keep the good work. Got yourself a new subscriber
I know Messi is the GOAT, but the final stat measument does not take in account more than one season at RM or the mithic UCL wining season at ManUnited, and also it does not tale in account the seasons for Messi that merged on the 91 goals record
@@andrescardenas4732 bro final stat doesn't even take into account the best years of Messi Messi didn't win a single UCL in those years. Was carrying a dead barca team. So it wasn't unfair for Ronaldo only
I don't think you get it, the stat takes all the seasons into account and selects the best one, the Ronaldo season that appeared was the season he added the most value during that time period
@@Jomiloju-xw6wg right, and it is not fair for Ronaldo, since his best seasons were at Man United and Real Madrid. Also I would like to see the Messi contributions during Guardiola and Luis Enrique's lead
@@Jomiloju-xw6wg those stats are since 2017/18 season you see ronaldo,neymar,salah stats are from same season 2017/18 and messi has most value added amongst all players for 4 seasons out of 5 season since 2017/18 as mentioned , messi stats in 2012 and 2013 seasons are simply out of this world, messi scored like 73 goals in 2011/12 season with next best in the team being fabregas at 15 lol, and half of fabregas's goals were also created by messi lol, messi's 2018/19 season was great but come on if you calculate impact of messi in 2011-12 and 2012-13 would be off the charts its not even close probably hit like 6-8 on the score, these are the seasons when david villa was injured and pedro was playing like shit even though his impact was never that high, the closest player to messi in terms of impact would be fabregas and he was miles behind.
Thanks for destroying this myth about 2008 Ronaldo. His fanboys spam every comment section like that Ronaldo was the best dribbler in the world or even of all-time while he was just a trickster and showboater and barely beat defenders 1on1 spaming million step-overs for nothing. Prime Ronaldihno was better winning both UCL and BD as well
It's not a myth bro , i have been watching regular football since 2007 , ronaldo was a pure entertainer back then but his effectiveness in terms of 1 v 1 was very mediocre, I'm say he is bad he was just average in that department.
Very Interesting, for me personally the ranking of the best players ever, counting raw talent and genius: Messi (higher because he was more consistent comparing to Maradona) Maradona (just genius) Neymar (One of the most complete dribbling playmakers ever) Cruyff (way ahead of hes time) Ronaldinho (street football and genius) Cristiano (one of the most complete players ever, unbelieveble clutch and goal scoring machine, but to say he was at the same level of those genius is bit too much imo, was still great, and for consistency he is only behind Messi for sure) Zidane, Kaka, Pele, Hazard, Iniesta, Xavi, Ozil, KDB, etc... (they are fantastic too, but the level up is the genius level)
cruyff should be higher than neymar. also drop kdb and put in ronaldo nazario and add david silva, he was spains version of messi but since he went to manchester city he was sort of not getting that much love
Fraud vedio.bro last 10 years looking cr7 was 30 year old in 2015 and after that he was just box player. Messi is better progresser but cr7 is so low cuz you too like old cr7 for many analysis. Iam not saying cr7 will be close in stats but hes so low cuz u took last 10 years which he was too old
After so long I watched a 15 minute football video analysis and I absolutely loved, your content is just wonderful. Please make a video on Arjen robben.
Penalties and tap ins are goals too so dont disrespect and just say that all of Ronaldos goals came from that. Im a messi fan and im willing to admit that Ronaldo owns the champions league, Messi owns everything else
@@largomeerkat5309 I am too. Its so refreshing to see a Messi/Ronaldo fan with a modicum of intelligence in a comment section. Henry owns the PL, Messi owns La Liga and Ronaldo owns UCL. Simple.
Fraud vedio.bro last 10 years looking cr7 was 30 year old in 2015 and after that he was just box player. Messi is better progresser but cr7 is so low cuz you too like old cr7 for many analysis. Iam not saying cr7 will be close in stats but hes so low cuz u took kast 10 years which he was too old
To get close to messi youve got to think like you play every position. Pass like a CM. Run like a 9. Time tackles like a 5. Play like a 10. Take on your man like a 7.
11:24 Ronaldo fans i hope now you know why Messi gets higher match rating compare to Ronald despite not scoring a goal, but i know you guys are ignorant and might still argue 😂😂
Yes we are still ignorant because most of those stats are for something midfielders need to don. What do you expect Cris to do dribble infront of the goal and pass it back???💀
And the fact that out of all the games Ronaldo has had, he decided to add one of him NOT scoring a pen, which is quite insane when he knows Ronaldo is amount the most reliable pen takers ever.
@@supremenpc_10thats why messi is complete player he scores, he passes, he makes chance, he developes the game, he dribbles whole teams, he is a genius, thats why he is the GOAT
@adityarawat3968 who says Cristiano Ronaldo can't pass the ball and build up plays. The only play you know is Tiki Taka because you're a Messi fan, Cris' build up play includes insane counterattacking plays, and he can even assist anyone from the midfield, EVEN WITH HIS SUPPOSEDLY WEAK FOOT.
Hazard's dribbling success rate is insane
expect it's very missleading since the success rate is from 21/22 season when he only played 700 minutes. Also i don't know where he got the 6.1 his actual highest is 4.9. His career average is 57.1%
@@Mise22 it was his best in a single game counting subsitutes which happened to him once when he got subbed on
@@GDominusOnYt his best in a single game is 12 dribbles so can't be that either
Hazard would get past “me” 10/10 not 8/10
@@Mise22False. He was at 80% success rate in the 2017/18 season
We need such an analysis to realize how brilliant Neymar actually was
Still is, just haven't had the best of luck with injuries.
Newmar is still a great player who's admired by many ❤
@@ikejimbawish he was brilliant enough in the head to reject money like in France and Saudi Arabia
@@Ares_pbhe does marketing for gambling in Brazil despite gambling being forbidden in the country. It looks like he really needs the money. It's weird. He probably spends Millions of dollars a month with BS like onlyfans or something.
@@Ares_pb O Neymar apanhou tanto fora de campo da mídia que o que ele mais quer é não ter que dar satisfações. Ele ainda deve tentar mais uma Copa e depois é o fim.
Eu tenho certeza que se ele tivesse vencido a Copa de 2022 ele teria aposentado de futebol.
Messi scored 91 goals in 1 year but goalscoring is only like 10% of what he does on the pitch. Best passer and dribbler I have ever seen, creative genius, and he does all that seemingly effortlessly. It's not a coincidence he won everything in football 🏆
It's incredible. I really miss messi old matches. Do u know where to find old messi full match videos
@@Nintevaaapa footballia, BCE sportsflix try these websites
Although all of messi’s matches arent available about 1024 matches are available in footballia
Lol i spent half of my day there watching maradona and messi old matches
Its mesmerising and beautiful
where is he now
@@ahmadafnan3756 at inter miami
@@ahmadafnan3756Is chilling, he won evrything what he gonna do?
Ronaldo is the peak of human perfection and shows what hard work and determination pushed to the limit can achieve. Messi is what God made to humble us.
@@feralaca123 nah everyone is made by god
peak of human performance*
Over hyped praise isn't praise
So a man-child is the peak of human perfection? This is so 2024...
Hmmm when you don't want to accept the hard of someone (Behind social media) , you will consider that God created 😂😂
Messi also has worked much harder (even than Ronaldo) the only thing he didn't do was "posting them on Media for followers!!!!
I'm really impressed as to how the statistics agree that Messi's 2018/19 season was ridiculously undisputed. Great video!
Bro, your music is a little bit too loud. But I appreciate your work! Keep on making them!
Fr louder then his voice
Exactly what I was gonna say.
He just ruined his, most probably great, video with annoying unnecessary background noise...
It's not even loud?
Absurd how loud it is
Bro gave a proper warning to ronaldo fans
You can be a CR7 fan and recognize Messi's greatness. Never understood this childish opposition tbh... You might prefer Ronaldo's style, character, impact, successes and appreciate Messi's incredible achievements at the same time
@@jeromebesnaud3030 that's me
I love ronaldo's work ethic and confidence and i appreciate messi's genius he's unbelievable
@@jeromebesnaud3030 Exactly, the thing is, Ronaldo shows what we could reach if we actually worked hard for our dreams, at least thats how i see it and i like about him, Messi is just pure unbelieaveble genius that tbh is not realistically achievable and you just have to sit and enjoy
Yeah, went from how many goals he scored in decisive matches on the UCL to... dribbles per game. Good one!
@@JanDarkyydo you really think that Ronaldo is just a hard worker and isn’t unbelievably talented? Or do you think that Messi doesn’t work hard?
Messi is so ridiculous that years will go by and he'll be studied in University and every sports matrix. The Mythical being. The Greatest there ever is, the Greatest there ever was, The Greatest there ever will be! 🐐
And there is a self proclaimed goat ronaldo
Who you can see only on goals based charts😂 but there will be messi in that chart too😂 ofcourse
Messi is a statistical anomaly it was already proven in 2019, there is a debate video of messi vs ronaldo just check it out messi easily light years ahead of ronaldo
you are wrong.
@@BocaoZHe isn't you're just unable to digest facts
He is Alien..
Its blasphemy to compare him with other player..
@@undertheglassmoon2239 so true...
Now i understand when they said. "RONALDO Is Closer to NEYMAR Than He Is To MESSI"
Disagree...what CR7 achieved clearly far outdoes what Ney did numbers and trophies wise, but looking at Neymar's style, no way is CR7 anywhere close to his level, Neymar is a true football player and could've been the goat with better ethics and career management.
@@sumomaster5585Nah forget their careers as PLAYERS Ronaldo is closer to Messi than he is to Neymar and don't take this as an insult, it's a compliment if anything
@@KidneyJones u said closer to messi????
@@spxdy6780 Yes I did, as players Ronaldo's attributes are more important than Neymar's yes Neymar wins in most of the attributes when they're compared(playmaking, passing, dribbling, overall technical ability, game IQ e.t.c) Ronaldo isn't far behind, but where Ronaldo wins in goalscoring, overall athletic ability it isn't close.
@@sumomaster5585Yes he is lmfao, You can't compare a poucher to someone who plays as deep as neymar in numbers, are gonna hahe lukaku above Maradona? no obviously, Ney clears CR7 in a lot of stats
Look at the game of Messi, no need statistics to explain Messi, how beautifully he play.
Watching Ronaldo, we say WOW
Watching Messi, we say HOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
damn
Nahh
Exact question would be "How did they get a penalty from that dive?"
@@pragyanadhikary1741 Salty🧂😂
@jaloedits10
I don't think Messi has ever dived in his entire Career
As a Messi fan: yes this is a Messi appreciation post.................... BASED ON FACTS.
True but he ignores a lot of the competitions that Ronaldo's better at
@@Bluecinnamon123 You mean Seria, EPL, Nations League, Euros 🤣🤣🤣
The stats are true 💯. I already knew messi's dribbling Stats. it's mind blowing. Y'all should watch messi's old matches full video. Some incredible stuffs are not in highlights
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Fraud vedio.bro last 10 years looking cr7 was 30 year old in 2015 and after that he was just box player. Messi is better progresser but cr7 is so low cuz you too like old cr7 for many analysis. Iam not saying cr7 will be close in stats but hes so low cuz u took kast 10 years which he was too old
Maradona 1986 World Cup is that high because Messi and Neymar's stats cover their whole career whereas Maradona in the World Cup was his best prime. He never ever repeated the level he had in the World Cup
If football loved anybody then it would definitely be Maradona. One of my favs and my fav to watch when he has the ball
You could argue that his time as Napoli wasn't that much less impressive. Carrying them to the Serie A is no joke
@@theantithesis-q4x I know that. He was Maradona afterall. But his World Cup level was godly and he never got at that level ever again.
Maradona was Maradona in few matches and in others he wasn't that good. He was very moody. But in World Cup he just went god mode
I would like to see Messi, Neymar and Dinho best seasons in terms of progressive plays.
In other words, Maradona's absolute peak in a 7-game tournament is barely above Neymar's and Messi's career *average*
Probably the best Maradona was in Argentinos Jrs. and Boca Jrs. The 86 World Cup is not an isolated peak.
Anyone who thinks Ronaldo is better than Messi clearly doesn’t watch full matches and understand the game.
They just base their opinion off goals in the Champions League knockout stages.
Messi is as good of a goal scorer as Ronaldo, yet is so clear of him and every other player in every other regard.
he's not as good a goalscorer, 91 season completely butchered any xg metrics. He's significantly better
Conversion rate if shots to goals anf games played Messi us even a better goal scorer than Ronaldo.
People often laugh at me when i say Zizou was a bit overrated but this actually supports my opinion.
I am in my 40s so i was an adult and well aware during his career.
Don't get me wrong: i would still put him in the top 15 of All time, He was great but He is not on the Level of messi, Maradona, R9 or Dinho.
The reason i belive people see him a bit better is because He was clutch in Worldcup and CL finals and scored there. But if you watch his whole career including Clubs you will see what i mean.
For example i think iniesta is at least on the same Level as Zidane.
This just confirmed what everyone knew CR7 and Neymar were the best in the world but Messi has always been light years ahead
Nah, he is just a Messi fan lol
@@jimohabdulqudus4283 no
@@jimohabdulqudus4283explain
Fraud vedio.bro last 10 years looking cr7 was 30 year old in 2015 and after that he was just box player. Messi is better progresser but cr7 is so low cuz you too like old cr7 for many analysis. Iam not saying cr7 will be close in stats but hes so low cuz u took last 10 years which he was too old
@@jimohabdulqudus4283 showing stats doesnt make him a messi fan. he even started out the video by praising ronaldo
Stats says Messi's the GOAT. Eye test solidifies it beyond doubt.
Bruv
I mean you can always weight forward passes and started dribbling as much as ko cl goals, but then you dont know fotball. Obviously he just pulled out Messi‘s best stats, but that result will also show up if you compare them in headers or 25+m goals… quote: „Dont trust statistics you didnt fake by yourself“
@@robertofschutz466I mean you have a point. But when you understand football deeply you understand why these stats matter. It's not that the guy chose the stats that favor Messi, it's just that Messi is better on the stats that ACTUALLY MATTER. That's why I don't take serious anyone saying "He can't score headers or bicycle goals, etc". Because at the end of the day scoring is scoring, doesn't matter how. But HOW you get to score is what matters and no one scores AND makes his team mates score like Messi.
@@reclutacontramontina5354 I mean playing good headers shows that you can convert any ball into goals, Messi does not but he needs good deep passes not crosses. Furthermore playing back passes isn’t as important and difficult as scoring goals. You saw his performances even in what you call 10/10 games: against France he lost the ball absolutely stupid before the 2:2, against Chelsea his missed a penalty and played shit and also lost the ball before 1 goal. He isn’t that good in important as Ronaldo. Doing back passes against Grenada isn’t NEARLY as hard as scoring bicycles vs Juve. And in the video above Ronaldo missed a penalty in an unimportant league match. Messi for example missed against Chelsea in the UCL and against CHILE in the Copa when it was important😂
@@robertofschutz466 Yeah we can see that ronaldo is better in important matches as stated by the number of knockout goals in the world cup.
For those who know football it's clear that in football, he is unbeatable
Ronaldo is popular and like idolize him for his work ethic. He is one of my idols. And idols of many.
But in terms of football it's Messi over Ronaldo anyday if you know anything about football.
Btw youe music is a bit too loud in this vid. I hope you re upload this video cuz we can see your hardwork and you are atleast giving some ball knowledge to people with open minds who want to accept the truth rather than just being biased and blind
Agreed, it’s a shame that people so often fight about this, you can’t mention Ronaldo without people saying he’s better than Messi, but Ronaldo is spectacular, there’s nothing wrong with him not being even close to Messi,Messi is just the best in history, far above any player ever, ain’t no shame in being second to THAT
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So, You got PhD at knowing football? No player is better than one another, all of those legends are the same .
The only thing that is comparing them is you fans and your useless opinions and stating it like its a fact.
IMO , Ronaldinho clears both Messi and Ronaldo but others might disagree.
At the end of the day, It is just your fking opinion and nobody know shit. So, stop acting like you are fking expert and everything you said is fact 😑 It is just your opinion.
Yeah, I think it was Peter Crouch who said that he genuinely loses respect for people's understanding of football if they think Ronaldo is better than Messi, which is how I've always felt too. Messi is just so much better at dribbling, passing, playmaking, while still matching Ronaldo for goals.
People aren’t talking enough about how crazy that Johan Cruyff stat is. The man created the football that made Messi… maybe he isn’t the goat of football but he definitely is the legend of legends!
And also this guy put Pelé’s 1970 season, but he was almost retired in that year. I would love to see some charts with Zico and Ronaldo phenomenal too. But this video is already a masterpiece
This video sums up perfectly the reality of football, but also the debate of Messi vs Ronaldo.
Ronaldo is one of the best players in history, no one doubts it. He is a goal-scoring machine, a work maniac, and a man who can turn a game around if he wants to.
But the best player to exist is Messi by far. We have never seen anything like him, and never will.
He is football in a player.
I have the most admiration for Ronaldo, and you cannot discredit the man.
But Messi is different.
I am so glad I was able to see them play, and forever thankful to God for it.
Good video man.
18/19 messi was nuts
And 2011-2014 Messi was unreal
One of his greatest ever seasons, ruined by Trent Alexander-Arnold's cheeky corner...
@@brettervonkanada6102 no, ruined by Barca overall...if he had the same 2011 team around him with that maturity, man...that would've been the finest art of the game
facts honestly was something else
@@sumomaster5585not even that. If the defense was little more aware.
Messi would have won treble by himself
The more one starts understanding football (not just somw edits or reels of some very rare highlights of any player) they start appreciating Messi more and more.
And if they are open minded and ready to accept the truth then for them Messi becomes the greatest player they have witnessed.
For me Messi is the best since I have seen football bcuz comparing with those whom I have never seen is unfair
okay
@NONAMEinfinity40% shooting accuracy
0 goals in WC knockouts
@NONAMEinfinitycool stuff, cr7 is definitely among the greatest just not the absolute one.
@NONAMEinfinity
But when most coaches agree its hardly an opinion and the more deeper you dive into the stats the picture becomes even more clear, not to mention since 2009 Messi has won like 52% man of the match 😲, that's quite insane isn't it? The second best is Ronaldo with an impressive 30%.
@NONAMEinfinity and still in your opinion Ronaldo is goat? Cmon bro
increase the music a little bit more, we can still hear you
keep crying to facts, numbers don't lie
bro couldn't argue with the facts so he argued with the editing skills 💀
@@Lemjj why are you assuming he is challenging the facts, he simply made a joke about the music beinv too loud you clown. You Messi or Ronaldo die hard fans are hilarious.
@@Lemjjwhat type of number you are talking😂😂😂is anybody in world counting this or recongize this even messi dont know about this
@@Lemjjlol he's not even talking about the info he's just asking to lower the music cos it's hard to hear him 😂
It is time to realize that Messi and Ronaldo are great not because of their achievements, but because of the consistency (at least 15 years) with which they have delivered those achievements. Everything they have done has been also done by other players, but over much shorter periods of time.
Messi brings value to the team, Ronaldo brings value to himself
All of Ronaldo's goals and achievements came from the hardworking and talented midfielders.
Ronaldo is the only player in history...... who gets triggered and frustrated if his team members scores instead 😂
@paulatunglut208 Yeah...even the freekicks, solo goals and plays made. Such a dumb, hater comment.
Big respect to Messi, Cristiano and Neymar, they really showed how they're in a league of their own. Loved the Maradona, Pele and Cruyff stats although they were from cherrypicked famous seasons they really showed their greatness at their prime. Goddamn this must've been a tough watch for the Messi haters out there
Fr someone should show this to Ishowspeed, I want to see what excuses he and other braindead Ronaldo fans will have
@Jubercool speed is just acting. He has been shown appreciating messi.
Fraud vedio.bro last 10 years looking cr7 was 30 year old in 2015 and after that he was just box player. Messi is better progresser but cr7 is so low cuz you too like old cr7 for many analysis. Iam not saying cr7 will be close in stats but hes so low cuz u took kast 10 years which he was too old
@@rogger972ronaldo was not 30 in 2015 bro 😂😂😂😂
on the contrary; these didn't account for Messi's prime of 2012 as the study he is following goes after 2017.
if you calculate every single stat since they started; Messi would be on an upper echelon beyond any other player in the history of the game. The 120 Perf 10/10 score was just his last 14 seasons which doesn't contain the mindboggling 91 goal calendar year from 2012
There has never been a debate
Long story short, an ageing Messi was still heads, shoulders, torso and legs above anyone in world football.
We saw how good aging Messi is vs Bayern and Real in a psg superteam😂
That superteam's defense was shit tbh
@@Miuranger1 Superteam in your imagination. Neymar was injured, shit defense. You are saying its like Messi is the problem. How good was Real Madrid against Messi Barca then? Conceding a hattrick against a 20 years old with the so called galacticos is crazy man, same for the offside goals somewhere in the three peat.
@@WaterMelonsAreGud He was the problem. Psg made the finals and Semis before him with Mbappe Di maria and Neymar but he comes they don't get past of Round of 16.
Funny how mbappe has his best season when the ball hogs like Neymar and messi have left.
@@Miuranger1 Your logic tells me you know nothing about football. With your logic, Ronaldo is Portugal’s problem, when Ronaldo played in the Wc 2022, they lost to Korea and Morocco but when he was benched, they smashed the Swiss. Not to mention Messi at Psg was way better than Ronaldo at Man United second time. Stats don’t lie. Man united With Sir Alex in 1998 won the treble but when Ronaldo arrives they only win the Ucl, so i guess he is useless.
Wanted praise Messi ended up making a video about how unappreciated Neimar Jr 😅
Fair enough.
Messi's performance doesn't need words.
They as well can go to Neymar who is the 2nd best allround attacker.
Among humans, Neymar is the most brilliant of his generation and fights side by side with legends and the others goats football, it's a shame that people prefer to look at whether or not he won the Ballon'dor than see your game on the field
Brazil's last games without him only demonstrate how superior he is to other Brazilian players, even though he has played as a midfielder for almost 5 years for Brazil sinceramente 2018/2019, he has more than 54% of the goal participations in Brazil since 2010, and if we only count the period in which he played as a left winger, center forward, second striker, false 9, he has more than 60% contribution in goals
Those toxic Ronaldo fans have been real quiet since this dropped
Let’s not spread hate. No one mentions how your dad has been real quiet since you were born
@@Cr7isgoat4724 so ur the toxic ronaldo fan?
@blurry2892 I just told him to stop spreading hate. I am sorry but if you say bad about my goat I will speak up, so plz don’t cry
@@Cr7isgoat4724 damn, the one who's actually butthut is you. I know it's very hard to digest that CR7 is nowhere CLOSE to being the GOAT. He's further away from Neymar than Neymar is close to Messi. Thanks for the stats for clearing things up and showing these mor0nic fans their place lmao
@@Cr7isgoat4724 did he say anything bad about you lil bro ?
ooh- sorry saw your pfp just now
Great video, but thing about making music in the background more quiet in 1:45. It will even improve this vid
I completely agree, I thought the same thing
Yes make it quiet can barely gear his voice
Agree
When someone says: "It's not statistics dude, it can't be explained by a bunch of numbers". I answer: "Yes, it's statistics, it's always statistics, you just don't see them."
Once a legend quoted "Statistics don't do justice to Messi"
But heck even the statistics are on his side. He's clearly above them all, in all times
it's really not, stats are most of the time overrated
@@Georginioballstats are often really misleading but they can be used very effectively
@@dontmesswiththeinsomniacThe thing is Messi is that good that even statistics not giving him enough credit, are enough to put him above the rest. He's not just above the rest, as the stats suggest, he's way over what stats can even measure...
it cant
Messi career average is nearly on par with Maradona's 86 World Cup! That is just impossible to comprehend..
Wow, I have been a Messi fan my whold life but I never realised he was this versatile and outrageously above everyone in certain stats. Great video, keep it up :)
12:38 that is lionel messi
00:17 It’s not common to present data on a scatter plot without the x variable as the plot might fail to provide other context regarding the data point position. Apparently, OP wished to explain that CR7 statistically scores more than other elite footballers in UCL knockout stages with an outlier on the scatter chart.
Box plot would have been better
@@rounakgoswami2901 Box plot might not be a good alternative to the scatter plot in visualising data. If my memory serves me correctly, a box plot consists of first, median, third quarters, maximum, minimum and outliers. The goalscoring data displays the total number of goals scored in the past UCL knockout rounds by a set of elite players. However, a box plot is used to compare categorical data like genders or test results by showing their statistical distributions. The number of goal scored in past matches is a continuous historical data that cannot be analysed in a categorical framework.
A good example of using box plot on football is to analyse the performance in major European football leagues in a given season. By comparing the distribution of goal shots or differences across UCL, UEL and UECL, we may get some interesting insights on their respective competitive level.
Box plot might not be a good alternative to the scatter plot in visualising data. If my memory serves me correctly, a box plot consists of first, median, third quarters, maximum, minimum and outliers. The goalscoring data displays the total number of goals scored in the past UCL knockout rounds by a set of elite players. However, a box plot is used to compare categorical data like genders or test results by showing their statistical distributions. The number of goal scored in past matches is a continuous historical data that cannot be analysed in a categorical framework.
A good example of using box plot on football is to analyse the match performances of major European football leagues in a given season. By comparing the distribution of goal shots or differences across UCL, UEL and UECL, we may get some interesting insights on their respective competitive levels.
@@hermanjacobs4425 Yes correct.. box plot can be used for comparison across tournaments... But even if applied, individually -it can help to see the playerwise distribution of UCL knockout goals which has some mean, median, IQR and also outlier and hence can show the level of outlier that CR7 is.. Like how many times the IQR etc
i’m not a statistician, but x does not seem relevant, as the data is unidimensional. I would guess he only expanded the x axis was to fit the players’ names
Johan Cruyff is the GOAT confirmed.
Those stats were insane. Sad how nobody talks about him cause he never won the world cup.
1974 year only
It was only 7 Games while Neymar and Messi are entire season, so You can't conclude that. A better compare is a champions league of Messi or neymar
@@mem5860entire careers for Messi and Neymar
It was sample of 7 matches. But yeah he is one of them
Conclusion for those busy people:
Messi is statistically better, along with playstyle . The history proves itself why he's the best of all time. Hope this helps.
Statistics shows, one is a world class number 10, and the other is is world class number 9
@@jimohabdulqudus4283 even as a number 10, the amount of goals he has sounds fake
@@Iwantdote Flat earthers are gonna ask for a proof of Messi statistics as an advanced number 10.
History failed to show Messi is the best because Maradona is clearly ahead of him in the history book.
I am a fan of ronaldo and always will be but i sure do admit that messi is simply out of this world ..and thanks for putting Neymar's incredible feats into perspective..it really shows why many consider him as the 3rd best of this generation.
Neymar is the whole package, legendary flair and enterteiment, while still being highly effective to the game.
Messi is just our of this world really.
Great video man!
Ronaldo: everyone's idol❤
Messi: everyone's goat🐐
Facts❤️✨
No hate but
My goat: ronaldo 🐐
Ur goat , not everyone's , mines Ronaldo
@@EkagrahSingh well he's your goat. staistically and with eye test anyone can say Messi is true GOAT
@@EkagrahSinghhow can greatest of all time be opinion?
Ronaldo has been idols of many because what he does is achievable with extreme hardwork, dedication and work ethic. Obviously talent is very important too. Ronaldo in earlier days was also one of the most talented guy. His talent is undermined because his rival Messi was probably the most talented player in the history of football.
Messi on the other hand is unachievable. Better don't try to compete or be like him. It's impossible
Those cherry picked WC performances can't be compared to whole career statistics.
It's like if a youngster plays one game only and scores, you wouldn't have expected him to keep a 1.0 goal per match performance through an entire season, let alone a career, but he's gonna have a better rate than any of the regular starters that season.
So yeah, interesting to see, but there is no deep meaning to them.
If anything you’re comparing their prime, Maradona’s highest high was the 86 WC, before and afterwards he was great, legendary even, but never that peak
Same with Zidane, who often as it was said back then, “took off games”, ghosting league matches and generally being inconsistent throughout a season, with his highest highs only on a few matches in a few tournaments
Or of course players with really short primes like Ronaldinho, who hit a ginormous ridiculous peak, then fizzled out progressively
If anything, that just highlights Ronaldo, Neymar, and mostly Messi, being at the top of the world by far for like 14 seasons, something unprecedented in history, and that I doubt will ever again happen
@@theannoyedlink5153 Being at the top with poor competition isn't the impressive stat you think it is. Zidane played in an era filled with legends in almost every big team, while Messi, Ronaldo and Neymar dominated in a poor generation of players.
Also cherry picking one world cup performance over a whole career is misleading, I don't even think Zidane's 98 world cup was his best performance especially after missing one game for a red card. His 2006 might actually be better, while his Eurp 2000 might be his peak.
Take Neymar, Messi and Ronaldo's national team performances and their stats drop, they barely accomplished anything for their national teams.
@@55TheOracle55yes because reaching the copa america final 6 times and winning it twice,winning the finalissima,reaching 2 world cup finals and winning one,becoming your country's top scorer and having the most g/a in world cup history is nothing,definetely not impressive.
@@55TheOracle55 You realize how good Messi and Ronaldo's performance has been in the last decade and a half when you see how "football connoisseurs" have been convinced that those 15 had poor players... Ozil, Pogba, Iniesta, Xavi, Neymar, Ribery, Robben, Bale, Modric, Kroos, Hazard, Ibra, Lewandowski.............)
Those two shifted the standard of (high performance footballer) up to an unhealthy level for the rest of humanity.
It's like being addicted to drugs and thinking life has no value without them. 🤣
@@user-vt3qw5ql8b I assume you're talking about Messi, he was always known for not performing as well for his national team compared to Barcelona. This is a fact.
The Argentine national team performance is another story, that's a team accomplishment. But winning 2 and losing 4 is again not a positive stat if that's what you're insinuating. Most of those very same losses were a result of Messi underperforming in clutch situations, further proving my point.
Even the world cup win was heavily pushed thanks to the Quatari hosts...they lost to freaking Saudi Arabia in their opening match, like really?
Being top scorer and assister is about longevity, because of how much longer he's played compared to others. And he only broke this record thanks to 4 penalties that were awarded at the shady Quatari world cup.
I have a friend who is basketball fan from his childhood then from about 4 years ago he starting to follow football too. The World Cup ended, when the final match concluded he said 'when someone watch football highlights anyone can idolize different players, but when you actually watched the game then you see the detailed statistics you can't ignore how ridiculously amazing Messi is'
cant find a single ronaldo fan in these comments, they finally listened
Ronaldo Nazario used to Dribble Keepers for fun. Add him in your chart to see where he stands
He's in the league below Messi and Neymar
@@KidneyJones he is the youngest ballon'dor ever still today.
@@completefootball1 Ok?
3:24. Peak Hazard was a beast
Lmao
People say he was Messi level at that peak. The stats back it up
Then we can compare messis peeck year to hazards peeck
@@MuhammadMuneef123 Almost every dribble he made would succeed. I don't think he can go head to head with Messi tho
What’s insane about that last stat where it’s based on the total value added to a players team, it only dates back to 2017 and Messi was at an older age and STILL had the top seasons out of everyone by a mile, but again what makes it crazy is imagine if it tracked Messi in the DEAD OF HIS PRIME!!!!!!!!! I couldn’t imagine how insane his total value added to his team per game and season would be!
Messi never robbed a single ballon dor. If Ballon dor was actually given to the best player in the world in a year Messi would've won it every year from 2009 to 2023. Hes just too good
@@pablobuquet2534 I repeat, every single season since 2009. Ronaldo or any other player has never been a better player than Messi during those years, except for 2022 benzema.
2013,14,16,17,18
All those seasons his individual statistics were miles ahead of others. But just because his team didn't manage to win the UCLs, the Perez PR did their work and robbed Messi of maybe at least 4 ballan d'ors
If anyone mentions that someone scored more goals than him that year, I ask them to look at the overall statistics, and not just goals scored. Heck even in the goals scoring area, he is above Ronaldo with better goals per game ratio and better per 90 ratio. Let's not talk about the midfielder aspect of Messi's game, otherwise Ronaldo would never stand a chance
Only thing Ronaldo's fan brag about is the number of goals, and he is not better in even that field. He has more goals simply because he has started his career 3 years earlier than Messi.
People complaining about the music being too loud... But I see what you are aiming to do... You try to narrate as a hip-hop rappers... It's a refreshing approach. Kudos to you ❤
Once I said to my friend that if you think Zidane is the best you have seen than you never understood the quality of Ronaldinho and Ronaldo Nazario. And I have also said to my friend once that Johan Cryuff was Zidane on Steroids.
Actually he is obsessed of Zidane so I tend to give him a reality check.
For me Cryuff was better than almost every legend you have named except Maradona. Just because he didn't win the World Cup people don't recognise him as the top 3 now.
i think johan cruyff is top 1 no doubt but its true that maradona also deserves top 1 so its really a bit more of personal liking between those 2
@@JoeTkrYT yeah it's upon what you like
Cryuff was way more consistent and was very elegant
But Flair of Maradona was unmatched too
Messi is like a hybrid of both
It's just what style you like the most😊
We should not forget that the chart showed Maradona's prime(which was in World Cup) and Cryuff's prime too(Cryuff was also in his prime in that World Cup. When a player like Beckenbauer says that we won the World Cup but the better player was Cryuff, it just shows what his level must have been).
Whereas the stat shown of Messi represented Messi's entire career and not just his prime. So I believe he would also be up there, personally better than Maradona statistically in his prime. But Cryuff was in a league of his own so I don't know where will he stand compared to Cryuff.
@@Inquisitive_Nomad Ye but i think messi is on its on top, i didnt talk about him because hes on another level
like someone said once there should be two ballon dors
one for messi and the other one for the rest, cruyff is the only one who is fairly close to messi but i think he still doesnt stand a chance even tho i love him
Johan Cruyff is a legend because of how he changed football forever, his legacy as a manager and the style he created, a style that derived Barça’s style, Gergenpress, Flick’s Bayern, Ten Hag’ Ajax, Van Gaal, pretty much every team that plays great football has a style that can be traced back to Cruyff, which is absolutely legendary on its own, but that often overshadows just how good he was
For me it’s Messi, Maradona, Cruyff, R9, in that order, 5th and the following it can be discussed and argued, but the top 4 is untouchable
@@theannoyedlink5153 agreed, personally i like cruyff more than maradona but thats just personal taste.
Though statistics aren’t everything you still have to respect the way Messi and Ronaldo can make or Break the game
This is why I say the casual fan who watches football at the most casual level would prefer Ronaldo, but people who watch football at the deepest level, the ones with the most ball knowledge know that Neymar is closer to the goat Messi, than Ronaldo is
U watch football from Walmart buddy
@@EkagrahSingh Ali baba maybe
😂😂 bro thought he was cooking but seeing your opinion my question is do you even watch football and saying Neymar being better better player than Ronaldo is just diabolical ,a player is made by three things,1 consistency 2. Carrer achievment 3 individual skills or talent like ( dribbling ,passing,iq , etc) and a bonus that is hardwork and if we see all this messi is the best player but the second best is no doubt chrisitiano ronaldo ,( buddy they don't call him bully of the big boys for no reason)
Yup. Neymar in ability is over ronaldo. Closest to messi
@@rishithmandhyan5173they basically do call him that for no reason. There is not enough evidence to back that title
this video is a slap to those cr7 fans who brag on about total goals and cr7 being the real goat
Even when Messi doesn't dribble, he calculates perfectly and runs around defenders so they can't even reach him
Absolute great video, your channel is a hidden gem
This is so underrated, the editing, the research, the video EVERYTHING is so good i love it, keep it up ❤❤
The editing just isn't good though, he can have fancy graphics but it doesn't matter when I can't hear what he's saying
@@VolkMate i can perfectly hear what hes saying and i dont hear how can the music volume be an issue, also making graphics for a video its the meaning of editing and the graphics were really good whit smooth animations, it takes alot of time to edit these kind of videos
The greatest eye opening video ever made in Football. Exposes all of those fake fans and trolls out there. The crazy thing is these are stats post 2017.
Cristiano's fans are sure football is a individual sport.
1:23 yo this sounded like he started spitting bars
NEW FOOTBALL CHANNEL FOUND!
Thank you for PEAK content.
Messi fans already knows who is gonna win ❤
As a Data Scientist, I think this video serves as a reminder to everyone that just because you can read statistics doesn't mean you understand it. I explain below.
Futbolistics makes severe fundamental errors in his interpretations of these statistics. Most notably he believes compound statistics such as those used by Whoscored and (some other random Data Scientist) are reliable measures. Unfortunatley they are not, because by compounding multiple variables you lose focus on the variables that truly matter. For instance scoring a goal or making a goal line tackle is almost infinitely more impactful to the team than any other statistic (like dribbles/90), but its weight isn't represented as such. Hence, when you combine 200 variables together, the value of things that truly matter are extremely diminished.
Additionally, he chooses not to show you assist and chance creation statistics when talking about creativity, which is absolutely ridiculous. Players like Muller, Benzema, Beckham and Xavi are thus nowhere to be seen.
Sure progressive passes and progressive carries are important, but only within the context of the players position- notice how there are zero defenders or strikers on this list because it is midfielders and wingers who would have the highest numbers for this statistic.
While Messi is clearly the most talented player to ever play the game, the improper choice of methodology here is overstating his impact by compounding his strengths that might not have as a significant true impact on the game. Muller and Xavi are perfect counter examples here because although they have an insane impact on games, they'll lose out because they don't perform enough dribbles or take ons/90. If you want to go even further, metronomic midfielders like Scholes and Pirlo are some of the most impactful players in a game, but this statistical methodology will completely ignore them because they spend part of their game protecting possession and dictating the pace of the game.
Moral of the story, compound statistics is generally useless in football analysis. The way you understand players is by both watching them and looking at how individual statistics fit into their general play.
@@sssf55Also, different leagues have different play styles. For example more goals are scored in a Bundesliga match than other top 5 leagues. But these stats will never take these variations into account.
Also it seems like he’s mixing career averages and season averages together in one chart.
Great explanation, Thank you @@sssf55
@@sssf55 don't think these stats are overrating Messi TBH, he is so clear in simple stats and especially in eye test.
Lucky to live in a era where Messi played football and yes even Ronaldo
Mindblowing! The stats as well as the vid quality. Music selection genius, it makes you sound like you're rapping 😃
Man, great video, but I would suggest you keep the background music level lower. It's quite hard to hear you with the background music that loud.
The biggest what if moment of football in history will remain: What if ronaldo and messi played together? An alien playmaker with an alien finisher/striker!
there are better playmakers than messi and basically messi's best quality you could argue is also scoring
@@GeorginioballBut Messi is the best playmaker among the greatest goal scorers and he's the best goal scorer among the greatest playmakers. Then you have people saying he's not a complete player smh...
@@reclutacontramontina5354 who says he’s not complete? He’s just not the best playmaker
@@Georginioball His haters say he's not complete. Of course he's not the best playmaker nor the best goal scorer, but he's at the very least third best in every category of football (not counting defenders and GK of course).
@@reclutacontramontina5354 I haven’t seen one person in my life saying he’s not a complete player mate :))). I agree that he’s one of the most complete forwards but he’s not at least 3rd in EVERY category outside of defensive and gk. There are better passers, faster players, more physical, etc
2:38 bros rappin. Shiii🔥
Great video, the title fits perfectly
It doesn’t change how I look at it per se, only increases my appreciation for the brilliance we as fans get to witness. Thanks for the video :)
it takes Messi being 4x better than Ronaldo for ppl to ignore Ronaldo's good looks, even then its not unanimous. 😂 poor Neymar has NO chance
Yo this is a very underrated video of a very underrated channel. This video is amazing man. Keep improving the quality, I'm with you.
12:35 "MESSIve understatement"
Now someone is using stats to explain more on football. I love it. We as football fans too often argue based on emotions instead of a comparison of many different stats like this guy is doing not just one like others do.
Messi 18/19 is by far the greatest season for any individual of all time.
I hate to break it to you but alot of statistics doesn't matter in football those who truly know football knows why
Sure it matters. But, statistics show what the statistician wants to show...
statistics over opinions which are based on feelings will always be the true parameters for truth.
And I guess you are one of those who truly knows football
My subjective opinion >>> statistics, yeah right
Bro your explanation is just so good
Johan Cruyff was a ⚽ Greatest Genius
I subbed because i want to be sure that in your nxt video, the background music stays in the BACKGROUND😂. Great vidoe tho, really informative
Messi is the best of history of football
For me top 5 are :
1. Leo
2. Pele
3. Maradona
4. Cristiano
5. Cruyff
Who else agrees? (U can swipe maradona and Cristiano if u like)
Leo
Cruyff
Maradonna
Pele
Cristiano
Fraud vedio.bro last 10 years looking cr7 was 30 year old in 2015 and after that he was just box player. Messi is better progresser but cr7 is so low cuz you too like old cr7 for many analysis. Iam not saying cr7 will be close in stats but hes so low cuz u took last 10 years which he was too old
@@Nintevaaapaleo
Maradona
Cruyyf
Cristiano
Pele
Is the correct answer
@@Maxsss214 I could agree
1. Messi
2. Pele
3. Cristiano
4. Maradona
5. Ronaldinho
6. Cruyff
7. Zidane
8. Maldini
9. Platini
10. Beckenbaure
6:35 different time, different pace. Numbers don't lie but the game is constantly changing.
Bro this is video is so good that I have subscribed you instantly after finishing the video and starting seeing your other videos . Incredible video and information, infact I was disappointed that the video was completed so soon !
Great video, I follow the NBA and I see this type videos all the time and it's very good to understand the greatness of the best to ever do it. Finally someone did the same for football. Great video and keep the good work. Got yourself a new subscriber
7:59 the zooming out and the teasing was just🔥 dude cooked.
I know Messi is the GOAT, but the final stat measument does not take in account more than one season at RM or the mithic UCL wining season at ManUnited, and also it does not tale in account the seasons for Messi that merged on the 91 goals record
@@andrescardenas4732 bro final stat doesn't even take into account the best years of Messi
Messi didn't win a single UCL in those years. Was carrying a dead barca team.
So it wasn't unfair for Ronaldo only
I don't think you get it, the stat takes all the seasons into account and selects the best one, the Ronaldo season that appeared was the season he added the most value during that time period
@@Jomiloju-xw6wg right, and it is not fair for Ronaldo, since his best seasons were at Man United and Real Madrid. Also I would like to see the Messi contributions during Guardiola and Luis Enrique's lead
@@Jomiloju-xw6wg those stats are since 2017/18 season you see ronaldo,neymar,salah stats are from same season 2017/18 and messi has most value added amongst all players for 4 seasons out of 5 season since 2017/18 as mentioned , messi stats in 2012 and 2013 seasons are simply out of this world, messi scored like 73 goals in 2011/12 season with next best in the team being fabregas at 15 lol, and half of fabregas's goals were also created by messi lol, messi's 2018/19 season was great but come on if you calculate impact of messi in 2011-12 and 2012-13 would be off the charts its not even close probably hit like 6-8 on the score, these are the seasons when david villa was injured and pedro was playing like shit even though his impact was never that high, the closest player to messi in terms of impact would be fabregas and he was miles behind.
@@Inquisitive_Nomad the dead Barca team literally beat Madrid without him
0:31 bro really sounded like he is rapping 💀
I just subscribed
Great video
Amazing video. Cheers from Brazil. 🇧🇷
7:18 he was messi on crack is what u mean? or rather coke xD
Blus thinks that be on drugs makes you a better player. Maradona was Messi before Messi.
Thanks for destroying this myth about 2008 Ronaldo. His fanboys spam every comment section like that Ronaldo was the best dribbler in the world or even of all-time while he was just a trickster and showboater and barely beat defenders 1on1 spaming million step-overs for nothing. Prime Ronaldihno was better winning both UCL and BD as well
It's not a myth bro , i have been watching regular football since 2007 , ronaldo was a pure entertainer back then but his effectiveness in terms of 1 v 1 was very mediocre, I'm say he is bad he was just average in that department.
Very Interesting, for me personally the ranking of the best players ever, counting raw talent and genius:
Messi (higher because he was more consistent comparing to Maradona)
Maradona (just genius)
Neymar (One of the most complete dribbling playmakers ever)
Cruyff (way ahead of hes time)
Ronaldinho (street football and genius)
Cristiano (one of the most complete players ever, unbelieveble clutch and goal scoring machine, but to say he was at the same level of those genius is bit too much imo, was still great, and for consistency he is only behind Messi for sure)
Zidane, Kaka, Pele, Hazard, Iniesta, Xavi, Ozil, KDB, etc... (they are fantastic too, but the level up is the genius level)
cruyff should be higher than neymar. also drop kdb and put in ronaldo nazario and add david silva, he was spains version of messi but since he went to manchester city he was sort of not getting that much love
@@DiogoGaming2 Messi
Maradona
Cryuff
Pele
Ronaldinho
Ronaldo Nazario
Franz Beckenbauer
Platini
Di Stefano
Etc etc
@@Inquisitive_Nomad agreed with your list 👍🏻👍🏻 but I think I'd replace platini with Zidane
Fraud vedio.bro last 10 years looking cr7 was 30 year old in 2015 and after that he was just box player. Messi is better progresser but cr7 is so low cuz you too like old cr7 for many analysis. Iam not saying cr7 will be close in stats but hes so low cuz u took last 10 years which he was too old
After so long I watched a 15 minute football video analysis and I absolutely loved, your content is just wonderful.
Please make a video on Arjen robben.
That's why I keep telling people. 2018-19 Messi was full god mode. Period!!
Ronaldo has like 30 penalties and tap in goal in champions league though with more matches than Messi too
Keep crying
@@dryames4319 the only one crying was Ronaldo when he got beat by Morocco. I’m happy, Messi won the World Cup
Penalties and tap ins are goals too so dont disrespect and just say that all of Ronaldos goals came from that. Im a messi fan and im willing to admit that Ronaldo owns the champions league, Messi owns everything else
@@largomeerkat5309 I didn’t say all
@@largomeerkat5309 I am too. Its so refreshing to see a Messi/Ronaldo fan with a modicum of intelligence in a comment section. Henry owns the PL, Messi owns La Liga and Ronaldo owns UCL. Simple.
music at 0:45 is too loud
True
all time. too loud.
It sounds like a rap song
ronaldo fans will not like it for sure
Ronaldo was ahead in one graph
Fraud vedio.bro last 10 years looking cr7 was 30 year old in 2015 and after that he was just box player. Messi is better progresser but cr7 is so low cuz you too like old cr7 for many analysis. Iam not saying cr7 will be close in stats but hes so low cuz u took kast 10 years which he was too old
There three types of Ronaldo fans
1.The true Portuguese ones or Madrid
2.Footbal fans
3. Kids who only watched youtube shorts
Subscribed! Awesome analysis
To get close to messi youve got to think like you play every position. Pass like a CM. Run like a 9. Time tackles like a 5. Play like a 10. Take on your man like a 7.
11:24 Ronaldo fans i hope now you know why Messi gets higher match rating compare to Ronald despite not scoring a goal, but i know you guys are ignorant and might still argue 😂😂
Yes we are still ignorant because most of those stats are for something midfielders need to don. What do you expect Cris to do dribble infront of the goal and pass it back???💀
And the fact that out of all the games Ronaldo has had, he decided to add one of him NOT scoring a pen, which is quite insane when he knows Ronaldo is amount the most reliable pen takers ever.
@@supremenpc_10thats why messi is complete player he scores, he passes, he makes chance, he developes the game, he dribbles whole teams, he is a genius, thats why he is the GOAT
@adityarawat3968 who says Cristiano Ronaldo can't pass the ball and build up plays. The only play you know is Tiki Taka because you're a Messi fan, Cris' build up play includes insane counterattacking plays, and he can even assist anyone from the midfield, EVEN WITH HIS SUPPOSEDLY WEAK FOOT.
@@supremenpc_10 how many assists does he have he was a winger till 2017 or 18 ig