It's still a solid strategy though, ideally I like to pull into a charger around 3% on the dash, Incase there are any unforseen circumstances. It can happen to the best of us.
Kyle - Please don't let your dad keep overcharging to 90%+...he is setting a bad example! We did this same basic run with 8 stops and never charged past 80%...I'm 60 yrs old my self and can EV road trip properly, so it's not an age thing...
I'm an ID4 owner. It's my first EV. Until I saw the videos on this channel complaining about IDs being plugged in at 350s I had no idea I was being a doofus. The EA where I normally charge near my house is always empty (I charge on the way back from work at 11pm), and the 350 is the easiest to get in and out of. I charge at the 150 if I'm there during the day. We'll all learn eventually. Hopefully VW will step up their game and start producing better charging cars.
I don't know about hows EA has built their 150ies. But where I am, in Europe, there are lot of 150ies with 200Amp-Limitation. Every 400Volt-based Car (like the ID-Series or Mach-E) will get less than 70KW, at such chargers. So whenever I charge my Skoda Enyaq, I use the 360ies, with good reason, though it's only possible to charge 125 kw.
2 года назад+1
That's stupid. Ideally every EA will be a 350 making it all moot
@ cars can already handle more than 350. Car technology is progressing faster than charging infrastructure can keep up. That said, it's really going to have to ramp up so that people can charge as fast as they fuel up. Eventually the 350 cars will be blocking faster charges too
I also have an ID.4 And I normally use the 150s, but EA 150 chargers at my local Walmart are sometimes wonky. After trying three different 150s the other day I refused to charge at 33kw on a 150 when I got 100+ on one of the 350s. So it's not always lack of knowledge or rudeness that has us using the 350s. Just plain frustration or need.
At the end of this. I'm legit curious as to what a hypermiling type of trip would do. One thing about the emergency L1 stop. That hour driving at 55 mph that you didn't want to do, would have saved you the 90 minutes at thex110 outlet.
16:00 As a European, driving the 500 meters from the EA station in Abingdon to Chick-Fil-A instead of just walking over there while the car is charging is peak 'Merica.
He probably ate in the restaurant. Given the speed at which his car charges, he might have incurred idle fees while enjoying his lunch. Or he may have been busy doing work in the car while it was charging.
@@rzu7120 He charged for ~24 mins from 11% to 90%. Charging to 100% would've taken an extra ~10 mins. At EA you get a 10-minute grace period after charging has stopped before the idle fee of .40$/min kicks in. So that's ~45 mins total. That should be enough for the walk to and from the restaurant + having your meal. No offense though, it was just an observation I made.
Just for conversation sake, If I had to guess I would say he probably used the drive thru because I don't think he can take the dog in the restaurant and it's probably not ok to leave the dog in the car when charging and walk over to sit in the restaurant.
The ice machine was an lol moment. Feels like a fast and furious moment. “Too soon junior”. On a serious note car seems great. Charges 5 times faster than my mini and hope your auxiliary battery drain has been sorted. Great trip video!
Dave, the ICE comment in your header had me wondering if you actually had met up with an ICE vehicle which had an on-board AC Inverter or an AC generator to bail you out of trouble. That's funny! You were very creative... My first totally battery only EV was a FIAT 500e with approximately 87 miles of range. Even so, I once obtained 98 miles running around town between 45-50 MPH. I was impressed with that range. I bought the car In Spring Hill, Florida, about 25 miles north of Tampa. I live in Lake City, Florida which is approximately 150 miles north, driving mostly on US Highway 41. I had to configure some creative charging routines to make it home before dark. I stopped approximately 45 miles north in Inverness. I arrived at the town square which had two level 2 (free) charge stations. I plugged in and went across the road to a diner and had a hamburger and fries, then returned to the car. I waited about 15 more minutes until the charge was at 82%. That was not enough to get me home, so I had a pre-planned location to reach the little town of Newberry. That location had NO public charging stations. But I had previously joined the "PlugShare" network. It shows public as well as some private locations which allow Level 1 or 2 charging. Since the car only came with a 120V Level 1 unit, I knew that would be too slow. The private home had a Level 2 charger installed, so he had arranged for me to use that one to complete my remaining 52 miles to reach home. I spent almost 2 hours with him, while being entertained by four kids and two dogs! I thanked him and offered ten bucks for his time and generosity, but he would not take any money. He also had a 2016 Chevy Volt (PHEV) which he used for his approximately 50-mile trip to work in Orlando. He worked at a location with Free charging for EVs. So, he used very little gas for his weekly 250 miles of commuting for employment. I bought the Fiat 500e in May 2017 and sold it to a "new car dealer" almost Five years (April 2022) later for exactly what I paid for it! Note: I had already purchased a 2018 blue Chevy Volt Premier in June 2020, so I didn't need two electric vehicles. I also allow private Level 2 charging at my home for urgent or emergency use.
To be quite honest, this channel has done more for EVs for me than anything else. You guys do a great job at just showing the cars honestly and intelligibly without marketing fuss, overselling it, or underplaying it. Just nice overall.
I agree. Kyle Connor and his team have put together the best EV channel on youtube for people who want more than just a marketing show. This place is full of details and real life experiences.
Love this video, it was a real roller coaster of emotions! Even at the low point, you managed to avoid needing a tow truck, so counting everything you learned it was a total win for me. More Kyle’s dad anytime!
I think the reason mustang mach-e and ID4 are in 350 charger is because of a lack of knowledge. It's my assumption that they don't know what their vehicles can receive max and think the bigger the better.
Amazing video. Got a lot worried when you missed the exit/turn and were rerouted but liked how calm and cool were you. I'm now liking the ioniq 5 alot more. Thank you for this amazing video. Video moments with Bailey were priceless.
Moral of the story, try and trust the car’s route planner. I think to truly test an EV the route planner is one of the most important elements. Using ABRP or planning yourself is great, but we can all make errors, I’ve done it! Awesome video, Ioniq 5 is awesome. I will be making a similar trip to Wilmington hitting some of the same stations in my Etron, hopefully it goes smoothly!
my opinion is the whole manual "pre-conditioning" the pack thing, and the managing your speed based on expected remaining range thing, is of little real value. is it technically correct ? sure. but, just keep your speed constant (gives you the best efficiency in EV or ICE) and get to the next stop. rewards are just not great enough vs risk.
We own an Ioniq5 also. And we just returned from a 2,000-mile round trip from the Midwest to Philadelphia and back. I used a Better Route Planner on my home computer to plan our trip before we left town. We included waypoints for charging at hotels each night. However, we really liked the Ioniq's built-in navigation system. We would just audibly tell the car's nav system which Electrify America stop we wanted next and then easily went there. So we did station to station navigation instead of programming the whole journey at once. The whole setup worked really well. There were two of us which maybe made it easier than you driving solo. We really liked how quickly the Ioniq5 charged - most of the time the car was ready to get back on the road before we were.
Super video, learning a lot about EV driving. Ordered an Ioniq 5 and now waiting a half year..for delivery. Please keep posting your vids about this car. Thanks from The Netherlands
2 года назад+3
When you had 47 miles left and 50 on the GoM I would have gone a bit slower and that should have been enough to make it.
Awesome roadtrip video! Very informative in typical Out of Spec style! I hope that everyone who charges in 350kw are more aware of what their cars can pull in. I have my Mach-e First Edition and I would only pull in 350kw if it was the only available station left
As you are showing in your video, the fun thing about charging at Electrify America is seeing all the different kinds of EVs that stop there. On our recent trip, we saw a Rivian in Bloomington, IL (very near Rivian's factory), EV6s, ID4s, the always beautiful Mustang Mach E, lots of Chevy Bolts, Etrons, and a Porsche Taycan. I'm waiting for my first F150 Lightning sighting@
Your windy section would have been great to plug in ABRP to see what it recommended as you subscription comes with weather data to make adjustments to energy consumption.
I do the same trip to about 8 miles north of your destination in one shot starting right near that Abington Charger you stopped at. Always time to get through DC before 5:00 am If possible on a work day. I leave at 3:30am and Gets me to Richmond around morning rush hour, but that is not too bad. Easy sailing from there. Normally in Naples before 7:30. Will be doing in a Model Y in the fall. If you don’t plan around those northern cities the trip can take twice as long.
Thanks so much for this video. I just ordered an Ioniq 5 from my dealer here in Annapolis and two days ago I watched a video that took a look at cold weather charging. The video did not show the Ioniq 5 in good light and scared me a bit. I began to think I had made a poor choice. Your video calmed my fears and reconfirmed my decision. Again, thank you. Your mistake was even helpful. It demonstrated that even in a bad situation, the driver can overcome the problem.
Congrats! Don't let the great charging sessions during my road trip allow you to conclude that this car charges strong when the battery is cold. Simple fact is that it doesn't; and it desperately needs pre-conditioning which is rumored to come to our US cars before next winter, The weather on my trip to FL was quite warm; hence the good results when charging. When I first got my car earlier this year, and the temps were cold, I would consistently only be able to pull 60-65 kW until the pack warmed up. Just watch our OOS Motoring Race to Vegas video where Zack and Jordan experienced this exact issue during the first charging session. That is the current state of reality for the IONIQ 5. Let's hope they do upgrade all the 2022's to support pre-conditioning as well as the 2023's. The car desperately needs it in cold weather. Don't let this one thing sway you away from the car though; keep the faith it will be released through a software update. And even if it doesn't come out, the car is still a charging animal when the pack is warm.
Wow - just wow! I’m only at the ice machine portion of the video. I feel like I’m watching a documentary film about EV life. Way to turn lemons into lemonade!
What a journey! Seems like it was a great trip with consistently fast charging sessions. I feel your pain with ID.4 owners always on the 350kW chargers. I wanna give them the benefit of the doubt that all other stations were full when they pulled in.
I wish EA would just make all the stations 350kw capable but split power if there’s multiple cars hooked up at the same time. That way it could manage and adjust the power and people wouldn’t have to worry about which stall they’re pulling into
As a European who’ve never seen an EA station in trial life, how do you distinguish between a 150- and 350 kw station when approaching them? From all videos I’ve seen, they all look the same from som distance where you normally commit to which one to use? It seems a little harsh to fault an average 1st time EV owner to block a 350 kw station with their ID4 if they’re not informed about the car’s charging curve and also can’t spot the difference between the higher- and lower powered chargers.
@@simoningebrand there’s a sticker and sometimes there’s either a sign for the spot or it’s painted on the ground. I don’t think most people would fault a novice EV driver for not realizing. Hopefully over time some awareness will spread or EA will be able to make all the chargers have higher outputs so it wouldn’t matter
I use ABRP to set the route plan then use Apple Maps to get to each charger. I enable the speech on Apple Maps and disable it on ABRP. Then I put ABRP on the display so I can watch my battery usage.
👍 Great tip for everyone!…always have a mobile charger onboard and in an emergency look for outdoor vending machines. 1.8 million of them in the U. S. ✌️😊
Best advice make the time of driving from Maine - Washington DC for night time because nj turnpike into GW you will encounter traffic all hrs of the day but it reduces a lot of time driving nights
Haha. When I was younger in the 80s, bmw was one of the few cars (if not the only car)with trip computers. My dad always waited until the gas tank was empty before refueling and would rely on the antique and unreliable bmw trip computer. One time he thought he had just enough gas to get home, his car ran out of gas in the middle of the Long Island expressway during rush hour. He got an earful from my mom and I think it’s bc of that experience, I don’t like it when my gas tank is less then half empty.
Can't speak for ABRP on iOS, but on Android it works great for me. I have to add, if you have a way to feed it "live data", it gets very much better. Kinda surprised you don't get to see arrival SoC estimates, as I am pretty sure it did for me last time I went on a "long trip" (only a couple hundred miles, but on a car with only just 2000 miles in a year, that's a long trip)?
Dave....saw a guy with an Ioniq 5 who tested the buffer on his EV . He cut car off at zero miles and went 10.2 miles before he was dead in the streets. So you did have enough miles in the buffer to get to the EA chargers after all. He said he would feel safe running 8-9 miles on the buffer by itself..
Yes, I’ve sat on 95, the Hutch, and the Merritt far too often for hours as well! My son just moved into an apartment in that area, they want an extra $125/month for a dedicated EV spot…. And that’s not including the electricity! That’s got to change for EV owners!
Just drove past South of the Border and they advertise EV charging now. Love the content because I would drive most of this rout annually to Rhode Island and I plan on getting the F150 Lightning
For anyone watching this video since 2023. The Ioniq 5 added en-route pre-conditioning in one of their updates, so all year models should now be able to do that. It works through the on-board Nav system, and you must select a charger through use of the POI charging station list. If you navigate there any other way, it will not engage. A little icon in the lower left screen appears, indicating it is on.
Too bad to see that ABRP hasn't fixed their horribly bad routing. I tried it on our route 66 trip last summer. It would routinely get flustered and then simply demand we drive back to our starting point, and refuse to correct itself. ABRP is good for trip planning, but little else. I'll use it on my PC to plan, and then drop the waypoints into Google maps. Once done, the trip plan is sent toy phone to link to our Bolts infotainment system.
I don’t understand the idea of burning all the energy, i mean if you arrive at the charger with 10%, that’s 10% less to charge, you can get back on the road faster
Agree… They absolutely do. In fact I put some text up on the screen saying that the Tesla along with the Lucid both do battery preconditioning as well. Thanks for watching!
I stopped at that Brunswick EA once, ran into a guy in an e-tron, told me his car charged at 500kw and I should plug my ID4 into a 350 so it would charge faster. Some people just have no clue! Thanks for taking the time to film Dave!
@@abraxastulammo9940 he definitely did not haha. Seemed to kind of live I his own reality. He said he'd had it towed 3x that week because sometimes it's easier to let it run out of juice, get an Uber to where he needs to go and just have his car dropped off for charging at home in his driveway. Definitely had some screws loose.
If you plan to arrive at a charger with 5 miles of range when you get there, what happens if you take a wrong exit and it takes 20 miles to get back on course, or if you arrive at a charger and it's out of order and there are no other chargers?
I once had to plug my Zero FX into a random plug to get back home. It charges SUPER slow. I mean at that point, you need to turn off every single thing that could be drawing current in order to have any charge at all. The LCD screens, your phone, even the OBD2 plug you have is taking up precious juice that needs to go to the battery. Every millivolt counts in that situation. And you don't know what other appliances are on that circuit. If that same circuit is powering another appliance on the inside, or some of the lights, you'll trip the circuit breaker when you plug in.
And as long as you're at that gas station, you might as well over inflate your tires, decrease rolling resistance and max out the range of what little juice you have.
Just listening to your Dad strategizing charging stops make me wonder any other EV is ready for general public. This is the advantage with Tesla and superchargers.
Great video! Thank you. I have a few questions though. Here is the one: should you actually unplug the ice maker anyway while charging? You could potentially blow the circuit. I am no electrician by any means, I just asking the question.
I actually did all the editing myself. First time ever using Final Cut Pro. Lots to learn…. So much info on RUclips plus some guidance from Kyle and Alyssa. Thanks for watching
Looks like you used an extension cord to plug into the 110 outlet. Can you do that? Which one did you use? My driveway is far from the house outlet. I would have liked to be able to use an extension cord.
Hi , when u were in Gainesville you showed you were getting 173kw from a 150kw charger, but that is not possible, so it must have been a 350kw, same as what the Bolt was using. Also have u downloaded the Bluelink app? :)
I’m late to the game on your iPhone app and method of connecting to car. Link? Magnet holder for dash? Link? Thanks for the video and Hoping for more safe travels for all of us!!
Around 20:59, you said you'd probably have to stop at Carolina Premium Outlets because making it all the way to Lumberton would be pushing it. Then, around 22:00, you mentioned that you had stopped to charge in Rocky Mount, instead of trying for Lumberton. Based on the state-of-charge on the charger's screen after only 4 minutes of charging, it looks like you could have made it at least to Carolina Premium Outlets in Smithfield, and been able to charge faster on a more-drained battery. Just curious why you decided to go ahead and stop in Rocky Mount?
It's Pooler, GA, not "Pool" 🤣 Thanks for the info. Living in Savannah and charging only at Pooler, I never knew the EA charger has different prices. Also, is it hard to wash off all the bugs from that matte paint?
My first car had a choke I could pull. Why can’t even ev have a “precondition battery” button. I sure could use it in my Tesla as most fast chargers I have used outside the supercharger network here in the EU, wasn’t in the navigation.
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Favorite guy trick when traveling long distances, eat in the car while on the go!
@@terryrodbourn2793 The other guy trick of refilling sport drink bottles. Going on the go.
Was your ioniq a awd? @outofspecmotoring
All that talk about range confidence and having no range anxiety - and then in the next clip he’s looking for wall outlets 🤣. Nice video, Dad!
It's still a solid strategy though, ideally I like to pull into a charger around 3% on the dash, Incase there are any unforseen circumstances. It can happen to the best of us.
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@@dylanmcruse Yup :)
I think you need a bigger SAT NAV 😂Great recovery finding the ice machine though.
Kyle - Please don't let your dad keep overcharging to 90%+...he is setting a bad example! We did this same basic run with 8 stops and never charged past 80%...I'm 60 yrs old my self and can EV road trip properly, so it's not an age thing...
I'm an ID4 owner. It's my first EV. Until I saw the videos on this channel complaining about IDs being plugged in at 350s I had no idea I was being a doofus. The EA where I normally charge near my house is always empty (I charge on the way back from work at 11pm), and the 350 is the easiest to get in and out of. I charge at the 150 if I'm there during the day. We'll all learn eventually. Hopefully VW will step up their game and start producing better charging cars.
Until EA provides a way to distinguish between a 350 and a 150 without having perfect eyesight, this will continue
I don't know about hows EA has built their 150ies. But where I am, in Europe, there are lot of 150ies with 200Amp-Limitation. Every 400Volt-based Car (like the ID-Series or Mach-E) will get less than 70KW, at such chargers. So whenever I charge my Skoda Enyaq, I use the 360ies, with good reason, though it's only possible to charge 125 kw.
That's stupid. Ideally every EA will be a 350 making it all moot
@ cars can already handle more than 350. Car technology is progressing faster than charging infrastructure can keep up. That said, it's really going to have to ramp up so that people can charge as fast as they fuel up. Eventually the 350 cars will be blocking faster charges too
I also have an ID.4 And I normally use the 150s, but EA 150 chargers at my local Walmart are sometimes wonky. After trying three different 150s the other day I refused to charge at 33kw on a 150 when I got 100+ on one of the 350s. So it's not always lack of knowledge or rudeness that has us using the 350s. Just plain frustration or need.
At the end of this. I'm legit curious as to what a hypermiling type of trip would do. One thing about the emergency L1 stop. That hour driving at 55 mph that you didn't want to do, would have saved you the 90 minutes at thex110 outlet.
16:00 As a European, driving the 500 meters from the EA station in Abingdon to Chick-Fil-A instead of just walking over there while the car is charging is peak 'Merica.
He probably ate in the restaurant. Given the speed at which his car charges, he might have incurred idle fees while enjoying his lunch. Or he may have been busy doing work in the car while it was charging.
@@rzu7120 He charged for ~24 mins from 11% to 90%. Charging to 100% would've taken an extra ~10 mins. At EA you get a 10-minute grace period after charging has stopped before the idle fee of .40$/min kicks in. So that's ~45 mins total. That should be enough for the walk to and from the restaurant + having your meal. No offense though, it was just an observation I made.
Just for conversation sake, If I had to guess I would say he probably used the drive thru because I don't think he can take the dog in the restaurant and it's probably not ok to leave the dog in the car when charging and walk over to sit in the restaurant.
"500 meters"? You mean 4 and a half football fields, right? 😂 (just kidding)
@@lesliefranklin1870 I think he meant 99 rods.
The ice machine was an lol moment. Feels like a fast and furious moment. “Too soon junior”. On a serious note car seems great. Charges 5 times faster than my mini and hope your auxiliary battery drain has been sorted. Great trip video!
That car should be called the ironic 5 when it's plugged into that ICE machine!
It’s not plugged into the ice machine.
Hard spin job on the sunset and grass 🤣
Dave, the ICE comment in your header had me wondering if you actually had met up with an ICE vehicle which had an on-board AC Inverter or an AC generator to bail you out of trouble. That's funny! You were very creative... My first totally battery only EV was a FIAT 500e with approximately 87 miles of range. Even so, I once obtained 98 miles running around town between 45-50 MPH. I was impressed with that range. I bought the car In Spring Hill, Florida, about 25 miles north of Tampa. I live in Lake City, Florida which is approximately 150 miles north, driving mostly on US Highway 41. I had to configure some creative charging routines to make it home before dark. I stopped approximately 45 miles north in Inverness. I arrived at the town square which had two level 2 (free) charge stations. I plugged in and went across the road to a diner and had a hamburger and fries, then returned to the car. I waited about 15 more minutes until the charge was at 82%. That was not enough to get me home, so I had a pre-planned location to reach the little town of Newberry. That location had NO public charging stations. But I had previously joined the "PlugShare" network. It shows public as well as some private locations which allow Level 1 or 2 charging. Since the car only came with a 120V Level 1 unit, I knew that would be too slow. The private home had a Level 2 charger installed, so he had arranged for me to use that one to complete my remaining 52 miles to reach home. I spent almost 2 hours with him, while being entertained by four kids and two dogs! I thanked him and offered ten bucks for his time and generosity, but he would not take any money. He also had a 2016 Chevy Volt (PHEV) which he used for his approximately 50-mile trip to work in Orlando. He worked at a location with Free charging for EVs. So, he used very little gas for his weekly 250 miles of commuting for employment. I bought the Fiat 500e in May 2017 and sold it to a "new car dealer" almost Five years (April 2022) later for exactly what I paid for it! Note: I had already purchased a 2018 blue Chevy Volt Premier in June 2020, so I didn't need two electric vehicles. I also allow private Level 2 charging at my home for urgent or emergency use.
Kyle's Dad reminds me so much of my own father. More Kyle's Dad please.
Nice job, Pops! I didn’t think anyone could do road trips as well as Kyle but you did just as good. Keep ‘em coming!
To be quite honest, this channel has done more for EVs for me than anything else. You guys do a great job at just showing the cars honestly and intelligibly without marketing fuss, overselling it, or underplaying it. Just nice overall.
I agree. Kyle Connor and his team have put together the best EV channel on youtube for people who want more than just a marketing show. This place is full of details and real life experiences.
Love this video, it was a real roller coaster of emotions! Even at the low point, you managed to avoid needing a tow truck, so counting everything you learned it was a total win for me. More Kyle’s dad anytime!
Mr Conner is Killing it!!!! Get him his own sub channel on Out of Spec. Call it Out Of Spec EV OG! Great job.
What a great Dad! (And puppy too.)
I think the reason mustang mach-e and ID4 are in 350 charger is because of a lack of knowledge. It's my assumption that they don't know what their vehicles can receive max and think the bigger the better.
Amazing video. Got a lot worried when you missed the exit/turn and were rerouted but liked how calm and cool were you. I'm now liking the ioniq 5 alot more. Thank you for this amazing video. Video moments with Bailey were priceless.
Love the stats, it's really good to know the state of charge and time it takes with max rates on these long road trips.
Love the Dad videos. And love the music on this one!! Your son’s videos on the ID4 is what prompted me to buy mine. Couldn’t be happier with it.
I love you had the extension cable!! SMART!!
Definitely have to pay close attention to the directions when cutting it close… It’s amazing Kyle hasn’t been in this situation yet.
Moral of the story, try and trust the car’s route planner. I think to truly test an EV the route planner is one of the most important elements. Using ABRP or planning yourself is great, but we can all make errors, I’ve done it! Awesome video, Ioniq 5 is awesome. I will be making a similar trip to Wilmington hitting some of the same stations in my Etron, hopefully it goes smoothly!
The ioniq doesn't have a route planner built in
People in their car were waving to the camera at chick fil a
The Bailey and Dave Marco Island Express!
I Watched it twice. I learned so much about your car. Thanks!
Love seeing Dad in the videos! He always makes things interesting! Keep up the great content Kyle and gang. 😁
my opinion is the whole manual "pre-conditioning" the pack thing, and the managing your speed based on expected remaining range thing, is of little real value. is it technically correct ? sure. but, just keep your speed constant (gives you the best efficiency in EV or ICE) and get to the next stop. rewards are just not great enough vs risk.
We own an Ioniq5 also. And we just returned from a 2,000-mile round trip from the Midwest to Philadelphia and back. I used a Better Route Planner on my home computer to plan our trip before we left town. We included waypoints for charging at hotels each night.
However, we really liked the Ioniq's built-in navigation system. We would just audibly tell the car's nav system which Electrify America stop we wanted next and then easily went there. So we did station to station navigation instead of programming the whole journey at once. The whole setup worked really well. There were two of us which maybe made it easier than you driving solo.
We really liked how quickly the Ioniq5 charged - most of the time the car was ready to get back on the road before we were.
Well sometimes we miss the exit but when you cutting it that close your ingenuity is tested. I like, I am going to sacrifice the ice machine. 👍👍
Just was wondering if you by chance checked with Plugshare when you go that low?
Super video, learning a lot about EV driving. Ordered an Ioniq 5 and now waiting a half year..for delivery. Please keep posting your vids about this car. Thanks from The Netherlands
When you had 47 miles left and 50 on the GoM I would have gone a bit slower and that should have been enough to make it.
Great work, Dave. Bailey, too! Two intrepid travelers.
Awesome roadtrip video! Very informative in typical Out of Spec style! I hope that everyone who charges in 350kw are more aware of what their cars can pull in. I have my Mach-e First Edition and I would only pull in 350kw if it was the only available station left
Another great presentation from Kyle's father......professional and very relaxing......keep up the great work !!!!!
Thanks for watching!
@@dconner9 It is my pleasure !!!
As you are showing in your video, the fun thing about charging at Electrify America is seeing all the different kinds of EVs that stop there. On our recent trip, we saw a Rivian in Bloomington, IL (very near Rivian's factory), EV6s, ID4s, the always beautiful Mustang Mach E, lots of Chevy Bolts, Etrons, and a Porsche Taycan. I'm waiting for my first F150 Lightning sighting@
Oh wow, I was nervous for you in that last 5 miles. Luckily there was a buffer on the battery!
Dad and Bailey for the win!
Your windy section would have been great to plug in ABRP to see what it recommended as you subscription comes with weather data to make adjustments to energy consumption.
Love the cell phone tower LARGE TREE at the 6.44 mark in the trip.
Great job totally enjoyed.
If you stayed at that Marathon station long enough, Bailey was going to start answering your questions.
I do the same trip to about 8 miles north of your destination in one shot starting right near that Abington Charger you stopped at. Always time to get through DC before 5:00 am If possible on a work day. I leave at 3:30am and Gets me to Richmond around morning rush hour, but that is not too bad. Easy sailing from there. Normally in Naples before 7:30. Will be doing in a Model Y in the fall. If you don’t plan around those northern cities the trip can take twice as long.
If my Model Y comes in and your down there you will have to let me buy you a drink at the speak easy!
42:53 Don't panic, don't panik, OK, Panic!!
44:13 Savage! 🤣
Thanks so much for this video. I just ordered an Ioniq 5 from my dealer here in Annapolis and two days ago I watched a video that took a look at cold weather charging. The video did not show the Ioniq 5 in good light and scared me a bit. I began to think I had made a poor choice. Your video calmed my fears and reconfirmed my decision. Again, thank you. Your mistake was even helpful. It demonstrated that even in a bad situation, the driver can overcome the problem.
Congrats! Don't let the great charging sessions during my road trip allow you to conclude that this car charges strong when the battery is cold. Simple fact is that it doesn't; and it desperately needs pre-conditioning which is rumored to come to our US cars before next winter, The weather on my trip to FL was quite warm; hence the good results when charging. When I first got my car earlier this year, and the temps were cold, I would consistently only be able to pull 60-65 kW until the pack warmed up. Just watch our OOS Motoring Race to Vegas video where Zack and Jordan experienced this exact issue during the first charging session. That is the current state of reality for the IONIQ 5. Let's hope they do upgrade all the 2022's to support pre-conditioning as well as the 2023's. The car desperately needs it in cold weather. Don't let this one thing sway you away from the car though; keep the faith it will be released through a software update. And even if it doesn't come out, the car is still a charging animal when the pack is warm.
@@OutofSpecMotoring Keep up the superb channel. The 90 minute video flew by. Couldn't believe when it was over already. Love your honest feedback!!
Wow - just wow! I’m only at the ice machine portion of the video. I feel like I’m watching a documentary film about EV life. Way to turn lemons into lemonade!
What a journey! Seems like it was a great trip with consistently fast charging sessions. I feel your pain with ID.4 owners always on the 350kW chargers. I wanna give them the benefit of the doubt that all other stations were full when they pulled in.
I wish EA would just make all the stations 350kw capable but split power if there’s multiple cars hooked up at the same time. That way it could manage and adjust the power and people wouldn’t have to worry about which stall they’re pulling into
As a European who’ve never seen an EA station in trial life, how do you distinguish between a 150- and 350 kw station when approaching them? From all videos I’ve seen, they all look the same from som distance where you normally commit to which one to use? It seems a little harsh to fault an average 1st time EV owner to block a 350 kw station with their ID4 if they’re not informed about the car’s charging curve and also can’t spot the difference between the higher- and lower powered chargers.
@@simoningebrand there’s a sticker and sometimes there’s either a sign for the spot or it’s painted on the ground. I don’t think most people would fault a novice EV driver for not realizing. Hopefully over time some awareness will spread or EA will be able to make all the chargers have higher outputs so it wouldn’t matter
I use ABRP to set the route plan then use Apple Maps to get to each charger. I enable the speech on Apple Maps and disable it on ABRP. Then I put ABRP on the display so I can watch my battery usage.
👍 Great tip for everyone!…always have a mobile charger onboard and in an emergency look for outdoor vending machines. 1.8 million of them in the U. S. ✌️😊
How he felt about the Marathon is me with every non-Tesla. “Looks good…eh…doesn’t look that good.”
Best advice make the time of driving from Maine - Washington DC for night time because nj turnpike into GW you will encounter traffic all hrs of the day but it reduces a lot of time driving nights
Dave, you are selling me on going EV! Thanks. The car's finish is hypnotic.
More Bailey. More road trips, more..
I’m still not comfortable with any less than ten miles of range as a buffer. That covers wrong turns, missed exits, etc.
Next should be the West Coast since there's a lot of EVs here (: Great job guys
“My wife would be so mad at me”😂😂😂😂
Haha. When I was younger in the 80s, bmw was one of the few cars (if not the only car)with trip computers. My dad always waited until the gas tank was empty before refueling and would rely on the antique and unreliable bmw trip computer. One time he thought he had just enough gas to get home, his car ran out of gas in the middle of the Long Island expressway during rush hour. He got an earful from my mom and I think it’s bc of that experience, I don’t like it when my gas tank is less then half empty.
Kyle gave me the confidence to take a bolt Euv from eastern pa to Salt Lake City Utah and back to pa
Can't speak for ABRP on iOS, but on Android it works great for me. I have to add, if you have a way to feed it "live data", it gets very much better. Kinda surprised you don't get to see arrival SoC estimates, as I am pretty sure it did for me last time I went on a "long trip" (only a couple hundred miles, but on a car with only just 2000 miles in a year, that's a long trip)?
I try not letting it under 15% for a buffer
Same, but I calculate 40 miles which is similar
Dave....saw a guy with an Ioniq 5 who tested the buffer on his EV . He cut car off at zero miles and went 10.2 miles before he was dead in the streets. So you did have enough miles in the buffer to get to the EA chargers after all. He said he would feel safe running 8-9 miles on the buffer by itself..
That slammed VW Bus was the coolest car of the whole trip
1:17:53 Supercool
That "break" in charging is likely to be balancing the cells? Once they're more equal they can add the power again without overcharging some cells.
Or rather undercharging some cells and being limited by those cells across the whole pack.
Yes, I’ve sat on 95, the Hutch, and the Merritt far too often for hours as well! My son just moved into an apartment in that area, they want an extra $125/month for a dedicated EV spot…. And that’s not including the electricity! That’s got to change for EV owners!
I loved your take on range anxiety. New Ioniq 5 owner here and I'm sure it will come with experience.
So at 4% SOC BMS, you had the range to make it to the EA station
Just drove past South of the Border and they advertise EV charging now. Love the content because I would drive most of this rout annually to Rhode Island and I plan on getting the F150 Lightning
For anyone watching this video since 2023. The Ioniq 5 added en-route pre-conditioning in one of their updates, so all year models should now be able to do that. It works through the on-board Nav system, and you must select a charger through use of the POI charging station list. If you navigate there any other way, it will not engage. A little icon in the lower left screen appears, indicating it is on.
The dog looks at me the same confusing way.. every.. time.
Just poppin in for a 70hr charge at 2am, by my calculations, we’ll get back on the road…..Thursday.
What is the app you are using to monitor the state of charge?
Nice job Dave! My cats name is Bailey, that’s because he belongs in a circus. 😆
Soooo what's the difference between stealing electricity today and stealing gas, back in the 70s? 🤔
It's all in the edventer! 😊
Too bad to see that ABRP hasn't fixed their horribly bad routing. I tried it on our route 66 trip last summer. It would routinely get flustered and then simply demand we drive back to our starting point, and refuse to correct itself. ABRP is good for trip planning, but little else. I'll use it on my PC to plan, and then drop the waypoints into Google maps. Once done, the trip plan is sent toy phone to link to our Bolts infotainment system.
Drafting the Big Trucks is your Friend.
I don’t understand the idea of burning all the energy, i mean if you arrive at the charger with 10%, that’s 10% less to charge, you can get back on the road faster
As far as I am aware tesla do pre condition when you have a tesla charger selected for destination
Agree… They absolutely do. In fact I put some text up on the screen saying that the Tesla along with the Lucid both do battery preconditioning as well. Thanks for watching!
@@dconner9 The Volvo XC40 also does pre conditioning when you plug in EA station in the nav system.
Super entertaining!
I stopped at that Brunswick EA once, ran into a guy in an e-tron, told me his car charged at 500kw and I should plug my ID4 into a 350 so it would charge faster. Some people just have no clue!
Thanks for taking the time to film Dave!
Maybe he confused it with 500 km/h charge speed. 😇
@@abraxastulammo9940 he definitely did not haha. Seemed to kind of live I his own reality. He said he'd had it towed 3x that week because sometimes it's easier to let it run out of juice, get an Uber to where he needs to go and just have his car dropped off for charging at home in his driveway. Definitely had some screws loose.
Kyle, I think your dad deserves an Out of Spec Dad channel... Solid video.
We love Sheetz, we usually stay next to it so we get our breakfast there, every time we go to PA
Wow you had me on the edge of my seat 😨
you should of left a couple of bucks for the gas station for using their electricity.
If you plan to arrive at a charger with 5 miles of range when you get there, what happens if you take a wrong exit and it takes 20 miles to get back on course, or if you arrive at a charger and it's out of order and there are no other chargers?
What is that car scanner app? how2get?
Paying by minute vs by kwh... Big $ difference. Ioniq 5 LOVES by the minute charging.
I once had to plug my Zero FX into a random plug to get back home. It charges SUPER slow. I mean at that point, you need to turn off every single thing that could be drawing current in order to have any charge at all. The LCD screens, your phone, even the OBD2 plug you have is taking up precious juice that needs to go to the battery. Every millivolt counts in that situation. And you don't know what other appliances are on that circuit. If that same circuit is powering another appliance on the inside, or some of the lights, you'll trip the circuit breaker when you plug in.
And as long as you're at that gas station, you might as well over inflate your tires, decrease rolling resistance and max out the range of what little juice you have.
If I’d known you were coming through Richmond, I’d have met you and bought you dinner!!
Just listening to your Dad strategizing charging stops make me wonder any other EV is ready for general public. This is the advantage with Tesla and superchargers.
Great video! Thank you. I have a few questions though. Here is the one: should you actually unplug the ice maker anyway while charging? You could potentially blow the circuit. I am no electrician by any means, I just asking the question.
Who edited this? It's good. The charging stats were killer.
I actually did all the editing myself. First time ever using Final Cut Pro. Lots to learn…. So much info on RUclips plus some guidance from Kyle and Alyssa. Thanks for watching
Looks like you used an extension cord to plug into the 110 outlet. Can you do that? Which one did you use? My driveway is far from the house outlet. I would have liked to be able to use an extension cord.
28:16 Ah, that is why it is called HeadS-up display 😅
I vote for Kyle‘s dad to be the new face of out of spec motoring. He’s so charming and pleasant
Who paid you to say this???? You my friend just made my day. Thx!
While the car charged 115v, I would have been searching as far as I could walk for a 230v outlet to switch to for charging WAY faster.
Out of spec that Dad brilliant thinking 🤔 👏
Hi , when u were in Gainesville you showed you were getting 173kw from a 150kw charger, but that is not possible, so it must have been a 350kw, same as what the Bolt was using. Also have u downloaded the Bluelink app? :)
IONIQ 5 surprisingly can pull in the 170’s u see the right conditions even on a 150 kW. Done it many times!
I’m late to the game on your iPhone app and method of connecting to car. Link? Magnet holder for dash? Link? Thanks for the video and Hoping for more safe travels for all of us!!
Around 20:59, you said you'd probably have to stop at Carolina Premium Outlets because making it all the way to Lumberton would be pushing it. Then, around 22:00, you mentioned that you had stopped to charge in Rocky Mount, instead of trying for Lumberton.
Based on the state-of-charge on the charger's screen after only 4 minutes of charging, it looks like you could have made it at least to Carolina Premium Outlets in Smithfield, and been able to charge faster on a more-drained battery.
Just curious why you decided to go ahead and stop in Rocky Mount?
I honestly can’t remember why that happened haha. I was thinking the same thing myself as I was editing the film. Good catch!
It's Pooler, GA, not "Pool" 🤣
Thanks for the info. Living in Savannah and charging only at Pooler, I never knew the EA charger has different prices.
Also, is it hard to wash off all the bugs from that matte paint?
Yes…. I knew that! Apologies… Thx for watching
@@dconner9 great vlogs as always
My first car had a choke I could pull. Why can’t even ev have a “precondition battery” button. I sure could use it in my Tesla as most fast chargers I have used outside the supercharger network here in the EU, wasn’t in the navigation.
The Taycan has that ability.