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Hey Tom, great video. As a Brit our public charging costs more because we pay 20% tax whereas home electricity is only 5% tax. There is a push to change public charging to 5% tax which should reduce the costs. We've also had a government for 14 years who weren't really pro EV. Our new Labour government is far more committed so I expect bigger changes.
@@Sam-mn4vl also worth noting that the Conservative government cut fuel duty on petrol, diesel by 5p per litre from 2022. Basically incentivising fossil fuel.
That time cannon at Edinburgh scared me almost to death once - I had my head _inside_ the barrel of the old ‘Mons Meg’ siege cannon, right when the real cannon above me went off. It took me a moment to realise what had happened and that I was still alive 😂 I’m sitting in Sydney, thanks for filming your road trip so we can enjoy the UK charging infrastructure vicariously! Safe travels home :)
Loved the video! Brought back meny memories of our trips to the UK. Great to see such extensive charging networks. Certainly when we were last there in 2017 we really did not notice many charging stations.
if you have off street parking and the ability to charge you can get a overnight tariff from the likes of octopus in the UK that guarantees 6 hours overnight at a rate of 7p a kw so that is roughly 14c. If you give octopus control of your charger they can set smart charging on it so you may end up with more than 6 hours at 7p a kw and this applies across the entire house not just the car charger.
Yet again another well put together video vlog of your family trip to the UK Tom! I've never been to the UK, but this has definitely put it on my bucket list to visit one day and to also travel in an EV. Clearly the UK has way more public DC fast chargers than us here in Australia. Maybe one day we will be able to catch up!
Thanks John! Yes it was a great experience road tripping between towns. It’s not the cheapest place on earth but UK is an easy place to holiday especially in an EV. Hopefully CPOs in Australia will watch my video and see what is possible in our own market
Great Video...I have a 2021 ioniq 5 premium, only had it a week and just found out the hard way it won't charge at CCS chargers, charges fine at home and at 7kw PodPoint chargers, it's booked into a dealership this week, fingers crossed it can be sorted. 🤞
Hi Tom, very brave of you to do such a long trip with the family. Your video makes it look easy but I know that in the UK travelling always takes longer than you think. I booked a car some time ago for my recent trip to UK and all Avis had for my trip was a manual ICE, and they had no electric cars. I would have been a bit worried about hiring an electric anyway, but your video has dispelled my fears about this - chargers everywhere! And a lovely car in the Ioniq 5 - same colour as mine here in BNE!
It's one thing seeing it on paper and another to experience it first hand ... I knew looking on Plugshare prior to embarking on this journey that there'd be plenty of chargers en route but to see it with my own eyes the decent infrastructure and surrounding amenities was heartwarming as an EV enthusiast! Plus it gave me hope that Australia could potentially look like this one day at least on our major arterials🙏
The downside of using ABRP or Waze via carplay is that you miss out on battery pre-conditioning so its possible you won't see peak charge speeds depending on temperature conditions. Also I see you experienced the "Korean Siesta" (as coined by Bjorn Nyland) where the charge speed dips for a minute or so before ramping back up.
Haha Korean Siesta 🇰🇷 So I suppose one way to mitigate the lack of conditioning is to also have the car’s navigation set to the charger 🤔 once you’ve done the trip planning with ABRP
Great video Tom. Thirsk, one of your charging stops, is where the vet James Herriot (Alf Wight) practiced, just in case you’ve read any the books or seen any of the All Creatures Great and Small series/films. Shame about the weather, I appreciate the U.K. is known for raining a lot but this is honestly the worst summer we’ve had in years.
Great video , could of made charging cheaper here in the UK using Tesla chargers , quite a few are open to non Teslas now , all you need is the Tesla app and to create an account it shows which chargers are open to non Teslas . Prices are of peak from 22-25p per kw ( similar to domestic prices) and peak times 44-55p per kw , so substantially cheaper.😮
My car 13 years ago reached 960 miles range We went backwards 🤷🤦 Granted no one drives for 14 hours straight although I could in a Emergency with multiple Drivers one sleeps , the other one drives . However the main thing here is choice Picking when to Stop , where & How long Instead of being ( Forced to Stop )
Thanks for the excellent video Tom. Glad the Ioniq 5 RWD went well. I have the original 2021 model in Australia and also digital teal green colour which looks like what you had. Yes the boot space is deceptively good helped by the shape of the hatch door I think. I was long time UK resident after being born there and grew up in Wales, although spent 20 years studying and working in England before I left in 98. Good to see you survived the variable weather 😊
Glad you enjoyed it! Yes the car served us very well and the family were very comfy throughout the journey. The weather was interesting as we had expected 😅
Those EV Power units under the roof and lighting looked like Alpitronics units similar to Pheasants Nest. Those AC chargers in Edinburgh said Podpoint from what I could tell that is fantastic as well. That gate you drove thru all the men with their large extensions such as the RAM or massive SUV in Australia would be scraping their vehicle from the look of things and damaging a building that is older than Australia is as a country. Looked like you had an ID.4 in front of you after you left Edinburgh. The EO chargers I've seen those I'm sure in Tasmania in some places. I grew up next to Lake Windermere but in Canada(BC). Haven't seen any of those "reliable" Tritium units ;) The contactless charging via credit card is a must but the UK has mandated it under law for all new chargers something that Australia should do as well but the other thing I liked was the number of sites you were at with multiple as in 6+ units for DC or even AC so even if one was down there would be others or some idiot decided to do a100% charge and then leave their car parked there after charge was completed. Did you notice any idle fees mentioned? Did you manage to score any Haggis in Scotland or a deep-fried Mars Bar? :)
@@TassieEV Yes there was a lot to like about the charging experience in the UK. I didn’t see any idle fees mentioned and no didn’t try any Haggis this time (although I’ve had it before 😜)
Nice video. Glad you enjoyed the trip and got the best possible weather the UK has to offer. In terms of charging etiquette... At 30:11 you said you'd charge to 100% as you're stopping for lunch anyway. Bit of a no no on that one. Yes, you can wait, but you're blocking the charger for others whilst the charge crawls along above 80% and you just presumably didn't need it. As you saw from the tape blocking some chargers, it looked like some were broken as well. By all means charge more than ABRP says for security, I'd do the same, but I wouldn't 100% it unless I really needed it. Stopping for lunch is fine but I'd keep an eye on the charge via the app and/or set a timer to go disconnect it and move the car. Charging to 100% is fine on an AC charger (which was the next stop) as they are designed for that and it's expected in those locations, but don't do that on a rapid if you don't need it.
@@RichardBrooklyn cheers I appreciate the advice. I did that only twice the entire trip and both times I set a timer to return as soon as it ticked over. The first time (with the tape) the weather was so bad and there was no one else around so I figured that would be ok. I did keep a closer eye on the second time as it was busier and would’ve been happy to move the car if someone else needed it sooner. Luckily there were always other spots available 👍
Really great practical demonstration of the cargo space! Also surprising that you couldn’t fit the same amount in the Model Y without using the under storage.
Thanks! I tried again with the Y back in Sydney at the airport … if I pushed I could fit the two large ones but at risk of potentially damaging the suitcases whereas in the Ioniq it was a more comfortable fit
I would say here in the UK a lot of the operators have been 'profiteering' (especially Instavolt the worst at 85p/kWh for relatively slow chargers.) and only now starting to slowly bring down prices - Tesla open to all are by far and away cheapest anything from as low as 23p/kWh upto say 50p/kWh at 'peak' hours 4-8pm. It's not just the VAT bumping it up!
The Hyundai buil in sat nav does a better job at route planning and selecting chargers than ABRP and it has pretty good traffic data. More importantly it would have preconditioned the battery for the charging stops it planned, resulting in far better charging speed. Looks outdated optically, but does a great job actually.
@@LudicrousFeed Yeah, but it would have saved you the dealing with wiring and apps, and at the 150kW chargers it would have charged at 170kW all the way from 0-80%, or at the 180kW charger it would have charged at 195kW to about 65% and then at about 150kW to 80%. The battery was constantly far too cold, which slows charging and also isn't particularly healthy for the battery. Using the sat nav also has an influence on battery cooling after charging and thus efficiency. That's why Tesla won't even let you use CarPlay.
@@LudicrousFeedBtw. all of that probably doesn't matter much in Australia because it doesn't get cold, and you'd have to set everything up right, which is clumsy.
Arguably, more accurate EV trip planning is required for us because of the greater distances we need to drive I’ll have to test the EV Trip planning capabilities of the GMP platform next time I get another loan … unless the software has been updated since I last tested it, I didn’t think it could map out the chargers en route for you But I agree with you that it may have been beneficial to use the built in sat nav to get to each charger for the purposes of preconditioning. I still prefer Waze for traffic data though no matter what EV I drive
@@LudicrousFeed I have an Ioniq 5 77kWh and it has extremely accurate en route charge planning since over a year. Weather, terrain, your previous driving habits and traffic data go into it. For a 250km trip in Switzerland with complicated topography and quickly changing weather conditions it has always been within 3% of it's original estimation of SoC upon arrival for me. Arrival was usually with about 1-2% higher SoC than it originally estimated. It doesn't see Tesla Superchargers (probably because they are slow and somewhat unreliable with 800V cars) and it requires mobile phone data reception for its calculations. You should (I do) set DC charging limit to 80% and set the right filter settings for charging stations. It tries to add roughly 60% at each session. If you set the charging limit to 100% it will look for chargers near 40% SoC. It then charges at 200kW or above from 40-65% and them tapers off. Charging beyond 95% rarely (in Europe never) makes sense. If the limit is set to 80% it will look for chargers near 20% SoC and then charge at or above 200kW from 20% to 55%, charging sessions usually are around 12 to 14 minutes that way. With the charging limit set to 100% you trade 10 very fast % for 10 very slow ones. Charging takes considerably longer. Tho the algorithm may be different in Australia due to the heat there. Even if you navigate to a very distant location, it will never plan more than 3 stops ahead, because changes in weather and traffic can change too much for an accurate prediction over such a long time. Once you're done with a charging session, it will automatically add a new one to the list if required. It will also dynamically change the already planned pit stops if necessary. The more you use it, the more accurate it gets. I always drive the speed limit + VAT (108kph in 100 zones, 130kph in 120 zones and 145kph in 130 zones according to speedo). The car includes that in its calculations. If you drive erratically like a motor jurnalist it will not be as precise.
Great video with a good selection of charge points. It’s becoming such a seemless process in the U.K. even since I was there last year. Just on your point about uk charging at home, there are quite a few off peak very cheap charging plans. My mother is with Octopus and if she charges between 12.30am and 4.30am only pays about I think 9p/kwh. Octopus also offered a plan that integrates to your smart charger to dump power into the car when wholesale prices are low.
Tom any idea why charging is so expensive in the UK 🇬🇧? You were paying up to $1:50 AUD per KW. 4X more expensive than what I pay (38c KW )at the Macquarie Cntr in the mornings. Thats got to be close to Aussie fuel prices. 😮
Yes it’s indeed expensive compared to Australia! My understanding is that the price of wholesale electricity in the UK is strongly tied to the price of gas which has been rising recently due to the conflict in Ukraine. This is one of the reasons why EV charging is currently quite expensive: www.ospreycharging.co.uk/post/why-is-public-ev-charging-getting-so-expensive/ Another reason is that public charging is subject to 20% VAT
As Tom says it’s because electricity pricing is linked to gas prices, though prices have dropped quite a lot recently but for some reason the charging companies haven’t reduced their prices! Fortunately Tesla have opened up most of their network to non-Tesla EVs and you can charge there for as little as £0.28/kW, which is a bit closer to Australian pricing.
Great video Tom, looks like you and the family enjoyed the trip! Did you not try at any Tesla superchargers? I guess Hyundai won't get fast speeds but they are much cheaper than all other networks in the UK. Most of them have peak/off-peak/super off-peak and even peak is around 55-60p/kwh even for non-Teslas at most locations. 8am to 10am some of them are only around 39p/kwh. Midnight to 4 is the cheapest.
Just wanted to say you’re not automatically exempt from the congestion charge because you’re in a full EV rather you have to register for the exemption. Otherwise you may find yourself with a nasty surprise. The ULEZ exemption is automatic. The london congestion charge isn’t. - a London EV driver.
Nice Trip Tom 😅 Assuming Tesla road trip in UK would be simpler and much cheaper?…. Retiring next year and a UK 🇬🇧 road trip is on the list…. New member 😊
Its a shame the Ioniq 5 only has 11kw 3PH AC charging for a car that ticks so many boxes it something im going to have to get used to when I hopefully change from Nissan Ariya (22kw AC Charging) to Ioniq5 next year.
@@LudicrousFeed Here in the UK at my place of work we have 3PH 22kw AC Outlets to charge our fleet of Nissan Ariya's and Vans, this halves the turn around times to have service engineers and van driver back out on the road. Salesmen have model y tesla 11kw and is noticeably slower having said that he could take special trip out to the local supercharger. My point being for company car drivers (who else can afford EV's) who charge at work (like all sensible people do;-) 22kw is a valuable time saver. Come on other EV manufacturers follow Nissan's lead and have 22kw 3phase charger built in as standard its not going to cost much extra? Reviewers nearly always talk about how fast the car charges at service stations out on the road, in 21k miles I have only used DC service station charging 2 times, 99% of charging is at work the very parameter reviewers dont talk about, but I believe effects the majority. Im glad your video mentioned it and was an enjoyable watch.
@@LudicrousFeed form those charging numbers it looked a lot like you did :) but I suspect there's more to this than meets the eye ! .. did Hyundai not allow you ? lol
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Hey Tom, great video. As a Brit our public charging costs more because we pay 20% tax whereas home electricity is only 5% tax. There is a push to change public charging to 5% tax which should reduce the costs. We've also had a government for 14 years who weren't really pro EV. Our new Labour government is far more committed so I expect bigger changes.
@@Sam-mn4vl Thanks for the insight! Yes the reduced VAT will help somewhat
@@Sam-mn4vl also worth noting that the Conservative government cut fuel duty on petrol, diesel by 5p per litre from 2022.
Basically incentivising fossil fuel.
Love the ioniq 5, imo a very underrated EV. The latest version has some nice quality of life upgrades too
Yeah absolutely it’s a stylish vehicle and very dependable on the road 🙏
That time cannon at Edinburgh scared me almost to death once - I had my head _inside_ the barrel of the old ‘Mons Meg’ siege cannon, right when the real cannon above me went off. It took me a moment to realise what had happened and that I was still alive 😂
I’m sitting in Sydney, thanks for filming your road trip so we can enjoy the UK charging infrastructure vicariously! Safe travels home :)
I can imagine that would've been an unnecessarily terrifying experience 😅
Loved the video! Brought back meny memories of our trips to the UK. Great to see such extensive charging networks. Certainly when we were last there in 2017 we really did not notice many charging stations.
Cheers! A lot more charging options now thankfully 🙏
if you have off street parking and the ability to charge you can get a overnight tariff from the likes of octopus in the UK that guarantees 6 hours overnight at a rate of 7p a kw so that is roughly 14c. If you give octopus control of your charger they can set smart charging on it so you may end up with more than 6 hours at 7p a kw and this applies across the entire house not just the car charger.
Good to know cheers!
Yet again another well put together video vlog of your family trip to the UK Tom! I've never been to the UK, but this has definitely put it on my bucket list to visit one day and to also travel in an EV. Clearly the UK has way more public DC fast chargers than us here in Australia. Maybe one day we will be able to catch up!
Thanks John! Yes it was a great experience road tripping between towns. It’s not the cheapest place on earth but UK is an easy place to holiday especially in an EV. Hopefully CPOs in Australia will watch my video and see what is possible in our own market
Great Video...I have a 2021 ioniq 5 premium, only had it a week and just found out the hard way it won't charge at CCS chargers, charges fine at home and at 7kw PodPoint chargers, it's booked into a dealership this week, fingers crossed it can be sorted. 🤞
Oh yes that needs to be looked at quick smart 🙏 Hopefully you get a favourable outcome
Hi Tom, very brave of you to do such a long trip with the family. Your video makes it look easy but I know that in the UK travelling always takes longer than you think. I booked a car some time ago for my recent trip to UK and all Avis had for my trip was a manual ICE, and they had no electric cars. I would have been a bit worried about hiring an electric anyway, but your video has dispelled my fears about this - chargers everywhere! And a lovely car in the Ioniq 5 - same colour as mine here in BNE!
It's one thing seeing it on paper and another to experience it first hand ... I knew looking on Plugshare prior to embarking on this journey that there'd be plenty of chargers en route but to see it with my own eyes the decent infrastructure and surrounding amenities was heartwarming as an EV enthusiast! Plus it gave me hope that Australia could potentially look like this one day at least on our major arterials🙏
The downside of using ABRP or Waze via carplay is that you miss out on battery pre-conditioning so its possible you won't see peak charge speeds depending on temperature conditions. Also I see you experienced the "Korean Siesta" (as coined by Bjorn Nyland) where the charge speed dips for a minute or so before ramping back up.
Haha Korean Siesta 🇰🇷
So I suppose one way to mitigate the lack of conditioning is to also have the car’s navigation set to the charger 🤔 once you’ve done the trip planning with ABRP
Mmmm the Fish & Chips and Roast Lunch(Yorkshire pudding mmmm) looked delicious! Will need another in depth video detailing the lunches and dinners!
Haha 😋
Great video Tom. Thirsk, one of your charging stops, is where the vet James Herriot (Alf Wight) practiced, just in case you’ve read any the books or seen any of the All Creatures Great and Small series/films. Shame about the weather, I appreciate the U.K. is known for raining a lot but this is honestly the worst summer we’ve had in years.
Ah yes I recall watching the All Creatures Great and Small series as a lad! Yes there was a lot more rain than I’d planned for ☔️
Great video , could of made charging cheaper here in the UK using Tesla chargers , quite a few are open to non Teslas now , all you need is the Tesla app and to create an account it shows which chargers are open to non Teslas .
Prices are of peak from 22-25p per kw ( similar to domestic prices) and peak times 44-55p per kw , so substantially cheaper.😮
Cheers 🙏
Maybe next time I do another road trip around the UK 😁👍
My car 13 years ago reached 960 miles range
We went backwards 🤷🤦
Granted no one drives for 14 hours straight although I could in a Emergency with multiple Drivers one sleeps , the other one drives
.
However the main thing here is choice
Picking when to Stop , where & How long
Instead of being ( Forced to Stop )
Yup fair call … although great to see so many DC chargers in the UK linked to service stops 👏
Thanks for the excellent video Tom.
Glad the Ioniq 5 RWD went well.
I have the original 2021 model in Australia and also digital teal green colour which looks like what you had. Yes the boot space is deceptively good helped by the shape of the hatch door I think.
I was long time UK resident after being born there and grew up in Wales, although spent 20 years studying and working in England before I left in 98. Good to see you survived the variable weather 😊
Glad you enjoyed it! Yes the car served us very well and the family were very comfy throughout the journey. The weather was interesting as we had expected 😅
Those EV Power units under the roof and lighting looked like Alpitronics units similar to Pheasants Nest. Those AC chargers in Edinburgh said Podpoint from what I could tell that is fantastic as well. That gate you drove thru all the men with their large extensions such as the RAM or massive SUV in Australia would be scraping their vehicle from the look of things and damaging a building that is older than Australia is as a country. Looked like you had an ID.4 in front of you after you left Edinburgh. The EO chargers I've seen those I'm sure in Tasmania in some places. I grew up next to Lake Windermere but in Canada(BC). Haven't seen any of those "reliable" Tritium units ;) The contactless charging via credit card is a must but the UK has mandated it under law for all new chargers something that Australia should do as well but the other thing I liked was the number of sites you were at with multiple as in 6+ units for DC or even AC so even if one was down there would be others or some idiot decided to do a100% charge and then leave their car parked there after charge was completed. Did you notice any idle fees mentioned? Did you manage to score any Haggis in Scotland or a deep-fried Mars Bar? :)
@@TassieEV Yes there was a lot to like about the charging experience in the UK. I didn’t see any idle fees mentioned and no didn’t try any Haggis this time (although I’ve had it before 😜)
Nice video. Glad you enjoyed the trip and got the best possible weather the UK has to offer.
In terms of charging etiquette... At 30:11 you said you'd charge to 100% as you're stopping for lunch anyway. Bit of a no no on that one.
Yes, you can wait, but you're blocking the charger for others whilst the charge crawls along above 80% and you just presumably didn't need it. As you saw from the tape blocking some chargers, it looked like some were broken as well.
By all means charge more than ABRP says for security, I'd do the same, but I wouldn't 100% it unless I really needed it. Stopping for lunch is fine but I'd keep an eye on the charge via the app and/or set a timer to go disconnect it and move the car.
Charging to 100% is fine on an AC charger (which was the next stop) as they are designed for that and it's expected in those locations, but don't do that on a rapid if you don't need it.
@@RichardBrooklyn cheers I appreciate the advice. I did that only twice the entire trip and both times I set a timer to return as soon as it ticked over. The first time (with the tape) the weather was so bad and there was no one else around so I figured that would be ok. I did keep a closer eye on the second time as it was busier and would’ve been happy to move the car if someone else needed it sooner. Luckily there were always other spots available 👍
Really great practical demonstration of the cargo space! Also surprising that you couldn’t fit the same amount in the Model Y without using the under storage.
Thanks! I tried again with the Y back in Sydney at the airport … if I pushed I could fit the two large ones but at risk of potentially damaging the suitcases whereas in the Ioniq it was a more comfortable fit
I would say here in the UK a lot of the operators have been 'profiteering' (especially Instavolt the worst at 85p/kWh for relatively slow chargers.) and only now starting to slowly bring down prices - Tesla open to all are by far and away cheapest anything from as low as 23p/kWh upto say 50p/kWh at 'peak' hours 4-8pm. It's not just the VAT bumping it up!
That’s a huge discrepancy! Hopefully they all start to cut their prices over the coming months 🙏
Hey Tom. Looking forward to seeing how they do it in the UK! Good choice of vehicle.
Thanks! The Ioniq 5 performed admirably 👏
The contactless payment is required by law on all public chargers over 8kw, they must be compliant by November 2024
Great to hear. Hopefully Australia follows similar legislation
The Hyundai buil in sat nav does a better job at route planning and selecting chargers than ABRP and it has pretty good traffic data. More importantly it would have preconditioned the battery for the charging stops it planned, resulting in far better charging speed. Looks outdated optically, but does a great job actually.
Possibly could’ve saved a minutes I suppose with the preconditioning but as you saw the charging speeds ramped up fairly quickly at each stop 💪
@@LudicrousFeed Yeah, but it would have saved you the dealing with wiring and apps, and at the 150kW chargers it would have charged at 170kW all the way from 0-80%, or at the 180kW charger it would have charged at 195kW to about 65% and then at about 150kW to 80%. The battery was constantly far too cold, which slows charging and also isn't particularly healthy for the battery. Using the sat nav also has an influence on battery cooling after charging and thus efficiency. That's why Tesla won't even let you use CarPlay.
@@LudicrousFeedBtw. all of that probably doesn't matter much in Australia because it doesn't get cold, and you'd have to set everything up right, which is clumsy.
Arguably, more accurate EV trip planning is required for us because of the greater distances we need to drive
I’ll have to test the EV Trip planning capabilities of the GMP platform next time I get another loan … unless the software has been updated since I last tested it, I didn’t think it could map out the chargers en route for you
But I agree with you that it may have been beneficial to use the built in sat nav to get to each charger for the purposes of preconditioning. I still prefer Waze for traffic data though no matter what EV I drive
@@LudicrousFeed I have an Ioniq 5 77kWh and it has extremely accurate en route charge planning since over a year. Weather, terrain, your previous driving habits and traffic data go into it. For a 250km trip in Switzerland with complicated topography and quickly changing weather conditions it has always been within 3% of it's original estimation of SoC upon arrival for me. Arrival was usually with about 1-2% higher SoC than it originally estimated.
It doesn't see Tesla Superchargers (probably because they are slow and somewhat unreliable with 800V cars) and it requires mobile phone data reception for its calculations.
You should (I do) set DC charging limit to 80% and set the right filter settings for charging stations. It tries to add roughly 60% at each session. If you set the charging limit to 100% it will look for chargers near 40% SoC. It then charges at 200kW or above from 40-65% and them tapers off. Charging beyond 95% rarely (in Europe never) makes sense. If the limit is set to 80% it will look for chargers near 20% SoC and then charge at or above 200kW from 20% to 55%, charging sessions usually are around 12 to 14 minutes that way. With the charging limit set to 100% you trade 10 very fast % for 10 very slow ones. Charging takes considerably longer. Tho the algorithm may be different in Australia due to the heat there.
Even if you navigate to a very distant location, it will never plan more than 3 stops ahead, because changes in weather and traffic can change too much for an accurate prediction over such a long time. Once you're done with a charging session, it will automatically add a new one to the list if required. It will also dynamically change the already planned pit stops if necessary. The more you use it, the more accurate it gets. I always drive the speed limit + VAT (108kph in 100 zones, 130kph in 120 zones and 145kph in 130 zones according to speedo). The car includes that in its calculations. If you drive erratically like a motor jurnalist it will not be as precise.
Great work Tom , enjoyed the Japan vlog better , but this was a great snap shot into the EV world in the UK.
Thanks! Japan is culturally more interesting no doubt 😜 but UK seems very familiar to Aussie travellers of course
Great video with a good selection of charge points. It’s becoming such a seemless process in the U.K. even since I was there last year.
Just on your point about uk charging at home, there are quite a few off peak very cheap charging plans. My mother is with Octopus and if she charges between 12.30am and 4.30am only pays about I think 9p/kwh. Octopus also offered a plan that integrates to your smart charger to dump power into the car when wholesale prices are low.
Glad that they have similar off-peak tariffs to help with EV charging!
Tom any idea why charging is so expensive in the UK 🇬🇧? You were paying up to $1:50 AUD per KW. 4X more expensive than what I pay (38c KW )at the Macquarie Cntr in the mornings. Thats got to be close to Aussie fuel prices. 😮
Yes it’s indeed expensive compared to Australia! My understanding is that the price of wholesale electricity in the UK is strongly tied to the price of gas which has been rising recently due to the conflict in Ukraine. This is one of the reasons why EV charging is currently quite expensive: www.ospreycharging.co.uk/post/why-is-public-ev-charging-getting-so-expensive/
Another reason is that public charging is subject to 20% VAT
As Tom says it’s because electricity pricing is linked to gas prices, though prices have dropped quite a lot recently but for some reason the charging companies haven’t reduced their prices! Fortunately Tesla have opened up most of their network to non-Tesla EVs and you can charge there for as little as £0.28/kW, which is a bit closer to Australian pricing.
@@geoffreyjones6019Tesla have opened up a third of their UK network, 42 sites, 30 in England.
That's assuming you don't mind giving Musk your money.
Great video Tom, looks like you and the family enjoyed the trip! Did you not try at any Tesla superchargers? I guess Hyundai won't get fast speeds but they are much cheaper than all other networks in the UK. Most of them have peak/off-peak/super off-peak and even peak is around 55-60p/kwh even for non-Teslas at most locations. 8am to 10am some of them are only around 39p/kwh. Midnight to 4 is the cheapest.
Thanks! No we didn’t try Tesla - I followed ABRP fairly closely in their recommendations
Just wanted to say you’re not automatically exempt from the congestion charge because you’re in a full EV rather you have to register for the exemption. Otherwise you may find yourself with a nasty surprise. The ULEZ exemption is automatic. The london congestion charge isn’t. - a London EV driver.
Cheers, good clarification! 🙏
- I've added a correction to my video description and pinned comment
Nice Trip Tom 😅
Assuming Tesla road trip in UK would be simpler and much cheaper?…. Retiring next year and a UK 🇬🇧 road trip is on the list…. New member 😊
Yes the Supercharger network for Tesla owners makes it easier … plug and charge and done 🙏
Its a shame the Ioniq 5 only has 11kw 3PH AC charging for a car that ticks so many boxes it something im going to have to get used to when I hopefully change from Nissan Ariya (22kw AC Charging) to Ioniq5 next year.
11kW is probably quickly enough for overnight charging for most people …
@@LudicrousFeed Here in the UK at my place of work we have 3PH 22kw AC Outlets to charge our fleet of Nissan Ariya's and Vans, this halves the turn around times to have service engineers and van driver back out on the road. Salesmen have model y tesla 11kw and is noticeably slower having said that he could take special trip out to the local supercharger. My point being for company car drivers (who else can afford EV's) who charge at work (like all sensible people do;-) 22kw is a valuable time saver. Come on other EV manufacturers follow Nissan's lead and have 22kw 3phase charger built in as standard its not going to cost much extra? Reviewers nearly always talk about how fast the car charges at service stations out on the road, in 21k miles I have only used DC service station charging 2 times, 99% of charging is at work the very parameter reviewers dont talk about, but I believe effects the majority. Im glad your video mentioned it and was an enjoyable watch.
I am keen to get an EV in Australia, but public charging on a road trip is my only concern
It’s improving but could be better
How do I remove a stop on a journey in Waze?
Hmm perhaps via the app via the CarPlay screen? 🤔
@@LudicrousFeed there’s no way to do it. It’s been like that for 5 years. I agree Waze is so much better except for this one non-feature
Why F1 why not Formula E Tom?
I also follow FE 🏎️
@@LudicrousFeedThere was a race yesterday in London at ExCeL. I thought you would check it out.
And i thought it was summer in the U.K 🤔
Yes … it was cold and wet during the F1 weekend 🥶
Unlike AU, Brits are not allowed to pass on the left, so make sure you keep left.
Thanks for the tip 👍
Don’t go to Leeds !
We missed Leeds
Leeds is a fantastic city. Much underrated.
Imagine visiting the uk and never using a Tesla supercharger once 😂
Didn’t need to 🇬🇧😆
@@LudicrousFeed form those charging numbers it looked a lot like you did :) but I suspect there's more to this than meets the eye ! .. did Hyundai not allow you ? lol
Haha there’s no conspiracy! I just followed the advice of ABRP each time 🙏👍
@@LudicrousFeed fair enough :) but perhaps one time would be nice :) possibly since its an 800v pack
I'd personally never give Musk any of my money. A terrible person.
Does anyone watch tv anymore?
That's how I watch RUclips. 🙂
Haha! 😜
I should’ve clarified: Free to Air TV
@@LudicrousFeed Oh GOSH no, never watch free to air. 😂
@_Sensei_8 😂 I'm not understanding, but if I'm a decamillionaire why do I only have an absolute standard MG4? 🤣