I'm seeing lots of comments here about the time it took to go the first 2000km, and I want to make something clear: we were NOT trying to go as fast as possible. If we were, we would have avoided lots of the b-roads we took, sought out faster chargers, and drove for longer each day. We did have one day where we drove until we were tired, but most of the time we were only driving between 300-400km a day. I wanted it to be an enjoyable road trip, not a cannonball run. Weather was also a significant factor for most of our trip. No, we were not getting optimal charging speeds, but we could have made this a 3 day trip instead of a 5 day one without much difficulty. We just didn't want to.
Informative and, for me, timely video as I'm heading on a road trip to Winnipeg in a few days with the exact same car (but in the stunning digital teal colour)... But I have an important question. Did you use the Michelin Primacy Tour tires that came with the car or did you change to full snow tires?
The entire battery being warm after your first charging stop was likely the reason for the improved efficiency after. Pre-conditioning the battery in the extreme cold is a must with ev’s otherwise efficiency will suffer big time
@@cujoyyc4453 it didn’t have that feature Software side but it got added with he new 2023 version (which is basically the second half of 2022 released variant) and via update for older versions, from what I know
@@cujoyyc4453 The heat pump helps but cannot meet the actual warming needs when it is very cold. It would be good if they publicized the curves at various temperatures. From the snippets I have heard about if it is below 50F/10C the charging speed will already be impacted significantly. The battery likes 90f/34C is my understanding.
Good to see a Canadian content on the subject as our conditions are different from that of California or TX and Europe where the specs of EV or ICE vehicals are higher than in Canada.
Loved this Vlog Mark, I hope you keep on doing these! The car is just great, to know what you guys experienced is also amazing and we get to see a bit of those cool places you’ve seen. Congratulations on the great content you provide us through your channel!
Thanks for sharing your EV road trip with the new IONIQ 5. Friends have just taken delivery of theirs, so your video is timely - I'll share it with them! I have driven a Tesla since 2014, so road trips, EV driving and trip planning is not an issue for me anymore. Since I live on Vancouver Island and I've only done road trips during good weather, your challenges with snow, cold, and charging are new to me...
This is such an awesome trip...showcasing one of the coolest looking (and impressive) EVs along with the beauty of Canada. Well done and keep up the awesome work. Hope Petro Canada is watching so they can make the investments to improve their network!
Larger batteries give you the range but you trade off charging time. Small/medium batteries charge very quickly. I've road tripped with my 38kw/h ioniq and you spend like 15 minutes charging at 50kw/h chargers and move on to the next one. It's a very efficient use of time IMO. Glad to see Canadian ev roadtrip content.
Good job! Having owned a Volt for 4 years, with no road trip charging issues, the hassle with fast charging a pure EV is quite revealing. I can't imagine how difficult it will be when EV's become more mainstream.
Here in The Netherlands we’re lucky to have reliable and ubiquitous fast charging infrastructure (took a good number of years though). The Fastned/Ionity networks really make it a breeze. Can’t wait for y’all to get to a similar reliability and coverage (which I imagine is a good deal more difficult)
Driving EVs can be challenging, thrilling, agitating, exciting etc. At the end, it is worth it for the future. Thank you for the video. I don't feel like a lonely wolf.
The I5 will charge to a top rate of about 230-240kw shown by other reviews to date, which is amazing and equal to the other fastest EV cars on the road. Wont see the fastest speeds until battery temps are warmer and we see some pre heat update software. Gotta say to date with just under 4800km I love my LR RWD, no issues. Efficiency for me has been 17kwh over the 4800km to date, it is even getting lower as temperatures warm up here in BC. Great review guys, this car will only get better with software updates which will come:) EV6 is a tad better w efficiency due to design. The fit finish and design imho is way nicer than Tesla comparisons of Model Y and M3, not as fast in AWD form or as efficient but way more unique and better build quality imho. Cheaper to boot as well. So pick your poison!
The car can only charge up to 220kW, not 350. Surprising that you got even close to 100kW at those low temps. Best I've seen below 0C is 80kW, funny enough at a Electrify Canada which doesn't even appear on the built-in nav. We've had ours for 2 months now and put 4K on it already and we love it.
its to cold for the high charge rating... in Germany with -10 celicius u have to drive the first battery 150 kmh on the Highway to get the full charging speed on IONITY 350 KW chargers... the Ioniq has a COLD GATE which they plan to update with agressive battery heating
@@LouRaX yeah it makes no sense that you couldnt aggressively heat the battery while plugged in to get higher charge speeds overall, this video has totally turned me off of the idea of EVs for a good while longer in Canada. -10 is not cold, it is the default temperature for 5 months of the year -> 300km of range total is abysmal, charging at fast chargers is more expensive than gas, and extremely time consuming if they cannot charge properly fast. Seriously, I did the math from this video and this guy is paying more for fast charging than if he just bought gas, even with temporarily elevated gas prices.
@@AbeYousef i will aggressivly preheat before even pluggin in after the Update... u have to type your rapidcharger in the navigation and then it will bring it to the perfect temperature before u arrive
@@lukezi3952 u need a low SOC and u need to type the charging station u drive too in the navigation so that it preheats the battery for max charge rates
FINALLY! This is the video I've wanting to watch. I live in Montreal, I pre-ordered the Ioqni5 2 months ago, but all my worries and fears summarize in this video. Thank you SO MUCH!
Great trip. It's a sign of things to come. Problem being, that down the road when there are more EVs, the wait times for recharging will be longer. Maybe they'll have wireless charging by the time I get one. Put a wireless charger in my driveway (or service station) and park on it. Lol. Looking forward to part 2 Mark.
We have had our 22 kona ev and it has gotten wild how many times we can find chargers fully taken up in towns that don't have many in the cold Canadian winters here and our property flooded we havnt had a chance to install a lvl 2 charger yet so we have lived off of lvl 3 chargers I'm town however our town was just approved for what is expected to be western Canada's largest ev charging station and we already have a crap load of lvl 3 in our small town so I think it is getting there slowly but surely especially with the gas prices these days more and more evs/hybrids being bought these chargers are going to start popping up
Or we can stop electing old fart bags that give subsidies to oil corps. Don't even have to take them all away if it still that delusional about ice's. Even 15% given to national initiatives for more charging stations would put us on the right track. Just some food for thought.
Wireless charging will never happen. Especially over the distance from the ground to the car. It’s very inefficient even when there is direct contact. Totally a pipe dream at range. The waste of energy would be monumentally catastrophic on a large scale and the heat and slowness would make it impractical.
The Ioniq 5 can only draw up to 225 kw and only if the battery is warm. It didn’t look like the battery was warm. That looks like it would be a great trip in the summer.
ts to cold for the high charge rating... in Germany with -10 celicius u have to drive the first battery 150 kmh on the Highway to get the full charging speed on IONITY 350 KW chargers... the Ioniq has a COLD GATE which they plan to update with agressive battery heating
@@afcgeo882 we have seen it in cold german weather its really just the low battery temperature... if u speed 150 kmh too the first charging stop its warm enough but if u go slower its still cold and wont charge fast enough.... Hyndai promised a software update in the future to adress and fix that feature... because they have a battery heater inbuild... it its only use from -5 celicus to +5 celicius... we would need 20-25 celcius for optimal charging speeds... The reason why they dont preheat battery standartly is because it would give a very high short trip comsumption... So they need to know you want to charge in 300km or do you just go 20km to the supermarket
I enjoyed this video, quite informative. From what I saw, an "oil" trip that takes about 12 hours with 2 breaks and fill-ups transforms into a two-day trip with an electric car due to charging times . . . which means the same trip will end-up more than tripling on "electric" because now you need extra food, a hotel night and a full extra day to get to your destination. Completely different story if the trip a leisure road-trip, of course.
Like he said he wants trying to make it in the fastest it was just a casual road trip. I don't see how a few charging stops makes up 24+ hours difference. More like he would have spend the same time in a gas car because he was taking his time minus maybe a few hours.
I'm also a Canadian and the range in the cold scares me a lot. Every single weekend I drive 204km round trip. In -10 if it only has 290km range going only 110km/h that's not very good for me. Also I assume this is 290km from 100% charge? The car recommends you charge only to 80%. Most people on the 401 will be incredibly aggressive if you're going as slow as 110. The defacto speed out here is 120 - 140. Factor in a headwind and I'm guessing this thing would struggle to hit the 200km range at a speed of 120 at -10c. That's really scary. Also -10c isn't even that cold. That's like a normal winter day. It often gets down to -20 or below here.
Your young and spirited. As for me, Im somewhat older and less inclined to be constantly stopping, being disappointed by the rate of charge and no less eating roadside food. I appreciate this window into doing a longer haul trip and having to bounce from charger to charger. The infrastructure has a long way to go. Your video harkens back to when everyone ran to Apple to be an early adopter of an MP3 player or pick up the original iPhones. Im thinking the emergence of EV constantly being dependable in all situations is still a ways away. Im thankful that we are all headed there globally because our planet cant handle the fossil fuel emissions anymore. Im holding my petrol car just for now until i feel safe that an EV can provide the existing 500 mile range I have in my Rx450h hybrid.
Awesome video Mark. I'm in Saskatchewan and the charging network here is a joke. Until it catches up or we get 800-1000km range there's no way I could get into an EV right now. Range anxiety is a real thing
I'm in the same boat, but given gas prices I'm starting to think that making the second vehicle an EV just to run around town day-to-day might be worth it soon.
In Saskatchewan as well, taking delivery of a Model Y in may. I have friends that own teslas here in regina, as for winter driving, they're good (couple had heating issues) , charging at home driving to work and around town. I do like the Ioniq 5, alot. I purchased the Model y for one main reason being in Saskatchewan, the charging infrastructure. Price wise, I would have chose the ioniq 5 if the charging infrastructure was better for non tesla EV's. I don't do winter road trips so 450km range is good, and if I had to travel I know the Tesla Superchargers would be reliable in comparison to the Petro Canada chargers which is questionable from what I've seen.
Great vlog! I just got my first hybrid last year and love it. Maybe within the next decade, I'll catch up with you RUclipsrs and move into full EV driving.
Thanks Mark, after watching Bjorn Nyland and Kris's channels on you tube, the consensus is do not use the climate controls until the car warms up the batteries in the cold (this includes summer when it is hot), you can usually see this on the charge levels. P.S. I believe Hyundia is going to fix this on their next software update. Yes many Petro Canada EV chargers are poorly maintained, I always use Plugshare to check on other user's experiences. I always use plug share when charging, leave comments on your charging session and regardless if good or bad so others may benefit. you got me to subscribe, I am a second EV owner, I still have my original 2019 Kia Soul EV (30KWH), loved it so much we needed a second car anyhow and Bought a 2020 Soul EV Limited (64KWH). My Hyundai Iconic 5 AWD Prefered long range Ultimate is due in in May, which we will trade the 2019 Soul EV. I had a KIA EV6 top trim GT line pack 2 on order it cam in 2 weeks ago and I still prefer the Ionic, for it's light interior, more space, more head room quieter etc, so my EV6 went to another KIA EV6 deposit holder. The EV6 is excellent but not my preference, had they had alight interior rather than always black I would likely have kept it. To bad Kia Canada has such a limited selection of interior colours, in USA you can dial in a light grey almost the same grey as the Ionic.
just to reiterate the Climate control also will warm or cool the batteries depending if they are too hot or too cold. This will hopefully also be updated on the next software update, where the car will give the batteries the preference, at least give you the choice.
Great video Mark. The conclusion I can make from your experience with the Ionic 5 is great car for the city where charging can be done overnight, but best to use an ICE vehicle on long road trips to avoid the hassles of charging, with todays infrastructure for fast chargers. Would consider an EV when the charging stations are at every corner like gas stations in the present day. Currently have an Ioniq PHEV and think this is the best choice for the intrastructure of elecrtic chagers in Canada.
ts to cold for the high charge rating... in Germany with -10 celicius u have to drive the first battery 150 kmh on the Highway to get the full charging speed on IONITY 350 KW chargers... the Ioniq has a COLD GATE which they plan to update with agressive battery heating
Hey Mark! Love to see this, for so many reasons. To see someone from St. John's where I live now travel through Ontario, where I grew up, is fantastic. And learning more about how the Ioniq 5 drives is nice to see as well!
That was awesome. Thanks for sharing your road trip. Been on the fence with getting an EV or staying with gas for the next couple of years. I think your video swayed me to just sit tight for the time being.
The second PetroCan charge, it was probably the temperature of the battery was still super cold sitting overnight and the BMS was trying to protect it and had the speed reduced & limited. If I leave my Model Y overnight in a hotel and go straight to a Supercharger with arrival SOC of 20% in the same weather condition, I might be lucky to get 60kW in a V3 (250kW) Supercharger even the car has the battery preconditioned on it's way. Now, I always charge my car before going to a hotel at night with a warm battery if chargers are not available there. By the way, love your video.
This is brilliant. The Ioniq 5 is top of my wishlist. We are in Saskatchewan and in doing this trip you addressed many of our concerns. Thank you so much.
Great video. I did this drive with you, except faster lol. I moved to Halifax at the end of February. I'm going to be making this trip yearly, thankfully not in the winter to visit my parents. I put a deposit down on an Ioniq 5 with a 18 to 24 month waiting period. Even if I have to wait for a 2025 model, I will be happy as they are already making great improvements to this car. For example the 2023 model keeps the battery warm while on a charger. You should make more videos with the car.
The reason you didn’t get 350 kw charging is coz no EV supports it yet. Even the Porsche Taycan with the 800v system can handle only upto 280 kw. Also it’s very cold out there, and the battery needs to reach a certain ambient temperature before it’s safe to charge at a faster rate while maintaining battery health.
@@roderick401 Yes, it needs a 350 kW charger to ensure its 800 volts, just like the car. That still means that time is the best possible, won't happen until they get the pre conditioner worked out. Battery needs to be 25 degrees, and that won't happen by itself in minus 10 weather.
….in summer temperatures. All EVs battery chemistries have much lower charging speeds/currents in canadian winter temperatures. I still remember my minus 50 degrees C experiences in Labrador City NL
Great video, nice to see some proper snow as well, something we don't get a lot of in the UK nowadays. Had to go and get something to eat after seeing all that appetising food in the video.
I spend 20 hours for 1700km. in the tesla,no hustle drive. In the winter time Toronto to Quebec city and back. So, what can i say, tesla still way ahead, but its a nice video to learn about.
Ioniq 5 is known to suffer from very slow charging while it's cold. Hyundai is supposed to release an update that will change the behavior of the thermal management system, so that the battery can stay warmer in the winter. That should allow it to reach 200-240 kW, like it does in the summer, but might reduce the range, since now the heater will have to work harder. And no one knows when that update might drop...
Thanks for the great info and videos. I loved the brief Lords of Waterdeep glimpse. That's not a game you happen into playing if you're not a board game geek, and I like seeing the crossover into that world. I wish there were more board game places like that near us.
I’m going to preorder when available again but your video is a perfect example that EVs are still a pain when driving long distance and the only car in the family. I own a ram that I still use for everyday driving but I want a second vehicle must be EV to drive around town. I’d be easily able to crunch that trip in two days in my ram vs 3-4 days in ioniq. Ioniq is perfect as a second vehicle though. Anyone claiming that EVs will replace ICE vehicles anytime soon is out of mind. Hybrids are the answer.
In your review, you complained about the lack of entertainment options in the info-tainment center. But that little shelf at 8:41 looks perfect for BYOD!
Great video and very informative! The coolest part though for me was discovering that you were driving the through the storm around Truro the same time I was. The truck off the road on the exit - I drove by that on my trip to Halifax that same day! Small world. Thanks Mark for the video.
@@MarkSpurrell it's such a great show to listen to while driving as well. Looking forward to EXU2 which I think is airing tonight. Thanks for the great video. Lots of great info.
For anyone who hasn't done this drive. I did it in less than 2 days in a Honda civic... Toronto Quebec city 1 day. Day 2 Quebec city to Halifax gets you in afternoon.
great video, love the review! did you know for petro canada stations with a rbc visa, i think the first 2 years is free and they rebate or refund you the charging costs. I haven't seen any petro canada charger stations in the west coast yet, gva area, cant wait to watch the next one!
Great ad for "not" getting one of these EVs... just yet. Not completely because of the deficiencies of the vehicle, but the woefully lacking charging station availability. I think that the good news is that by the time the charging infrastructure becomes "usable", there will be some amazingly good EVs. Really enjoy the video... "most of it". 👽🖖"Na-nu"
The charging strategy was painful to watch 😂 couldve spent just half the time. However im impressed by the rather small range hit in this weather. Seems like EVs are fine in the winter :)
Great video………but seeing all the troubles you had with charging I think I will put off with buying an EV for a few more years. How much does it cost you in Canada to fully charge your battery 🔋 from 0% to 100% at one of those charging stations ?
Fun and entertaining video ! I grew up on Lake Huron....haven't seen that kinda snow in 30 years, since moving to Florida. I'm looking forward to the larger Hyundai ionic 7.
Great stuff so far. I started with the Ionic review and now I'm watching this travel series. But I noticed you have a bad habit of saying Kilowatt HOUR when you just means Kilowatt. Don't get energy and power mixed up!
Excellent road trip video. And a real test of the car in those conditions. (Conditions we will never see in the UK!). Unfortunately this car "cold-gates" anyway. It does not have effective battery conditioning to warm the battery up, and so even when plugged in to a suitable charger, it tends to max out at 120kW in cold conditions. Its maximum charge rate even in summer temperatures (20-25 degC) is limited by Hyundai at present to about 220kW. That is still plenty fast enough!
This car confused the heck out of me. It looks like a small hatchback but sitting inside it i could see the gigantic size you have. Its much bigger than a Q4 E-Tron. Price is incredible and all extra equipment you can buy is very very cheap compared to Tesla, Ford and Audi. I can totally understand why it has won so many EV prizes but im not sold on the design...... or i would insta buy this.
Not a bad video, but I wish you were more detailed about the EV aspect of this trip. For example, it would have been nice to show/tell us the battery percentage at the end of every leg of the trip both before and after charging.
your video just successfully killed my urge to buy an electric car, i love the technology but no way i want to live in constant worry like this until the infrastructure catches up.
Interesting - I just completed a much longer trip to the East Coast from Quebec City and back. Though - it was in my own car. Fascinating this car vlog thing.
This video seemed very nicely produced. It would be great to compare the cost of the charging vs how much would a gas car cost. Ioniq 5 looks fantastic.
nice roadtrip. going through canadian winter roads on an ev took some courage and endurance gotta say. have a hyundai kona ev and because of all those problems you encountered I leave it at home and take the diesel car instead. will be getting a tesla long range soon so that I can hit these european roads with the superchargers a sure thing and a matress in the back for sleeping while charging.
In the Tesla or Polestar 2 you just enter your destination and the car will figure everything out. The legacy automakers are just lagging behind with their software. Not a shortcoming of electric cars.
Great video review. Did you end up purchasing the long range? I am wondering if it's worth the price vs the standard range. I live in Montreal so we have dreadful weather in winter. I find the AWD expensive.
My biggest hesitation with EVs was and is the infrastructure. You're right, it's not 'there yet'. Am being unrealistic expecting to find a charger as easily as a gas pump?
But the real question is who won Lords of Waterdeep? 😉 I’ve done that trip a few times back home to NS and I’m sure the drive would have been more fun in the ev than my old GM. Great video, great channel!
aaaaaaand the lack of a robust infrastructure for non-tesla EV's is exactly why I'm waiting to get one. For now, good old reliable (albiet expensive) gasoline for me!
I noticed that you said you got lucky because you didn't have to pay for the electric. In CA if you were to buy the ioniq you get a year of free charge. Pretty nuts.
Excellent video! Thanks. I drive between Fredericton and Ottawa at least once per year. Perhaps I have too much faith in those PetroCan chargers that I was counting on once I get an EV. Hopefully the Electrify Canada eastern expansion happens soon!
Im suggesting before this trip you come 1 day early just because you can rest at some place no need to be expensive or anything but prepare for the long trip. Just from my own experience
I have couple of KIA's (eniro esoul), with 64kwh batterypack. Range when outside temp is +10C is about 500KM (400 in winter), tell me how it is possbile that new models like IONIQ5 or KIA EV6 have about 400KM range? Consumption seems significantly higher in new models, and thats not good. Ill stick with older models, at least to the point they are still avaiable to buy.
Sounds so stressful wondering if you’d make it to the next charge and then they didn’t work well if at all. Cute car and love your clips though. Not sure how you manage on the cold waiting all that time for it to charge or me in Australia in 36oC heat waiting for the charge up.
I'm seeing lots of comments here about the time it took to go the first 2000km, and I want to make something clear: we were NOT trying to go as fast as possible. If we were, we would have avoided lots of the b-roads we took, sought out faster chargers, and drove for longer each day. We did have one day where we drove until we were tired, but most of the time we were only driving between 300-400km a day. I wanted it to be an enjoyable road trip, not a cannonball run. Weather was also a significant factor for most of our trip. No, we were not getting optimal charging speeds, but we could have made this a 3 day trip instead of a 5 day one without much difficulty. We just didn't want to.
Informative and, for me, timely video as I'm heading on a road trip to Winnipeg in a few days with the exact same car (but in the stunning digital teal colour)... But I have an important question. Did you use the Michelin Primacy Tour tires that came with the car or did you change to full snow tires?
Great video. Please let us know how much it costed (estimate) to charge the car up for the round trip.
@@coolboy5428 You do you, cool boy
@@coolboy5428 why so opinionated tho?
What a pos car
The entire battery being warm after your first charging stop was likely the reason for the improved efficiency after. Pre-conditioning the battery in the extreme cold is a must with ev’s otherwise efficiency will suffer big time
I'm under the impression that the integrated heat pump in the Ioniq 5 takes care of that. Did I miss something?
@@cujoyyc4453 it didn’t have that feature Software side but it got added with he new 2023 version (which is basically the second half of 2022 released variant) and via update for older versions, from what I know
@@cujoyyc4453 depends what version you get. the eco pack is an optional extra (at least it is in the uk)
@@1967dragonaxe The heat pump is standard on all but the entry-level model in Canada.
@@cujoyyc4453 The heat pump helps but cannot meet the actual warming needs when it is very cold. It would be good if they publicized the curves at various temperatures. From the snippets I have heard about if it is below 50F/10C the charging speed will already be impacted significantly. The battery likes 90f/34C is my understanding.
Good to see a Canadian content on the subject as our conditions are different from that of California or TX and Europe where the specs of EV or ICE vehicals are higher than in Canada.
Loved this Vlog Mark, I hope you keep on doing these!
The car is just great, to know what you guys experienced is also amazing and we get to see a bit of those cool places you’ve seen.
Congratulations on the great content you provide us through your channel!
Thanks for sharing your EV road trip with the new IONIQ 5. Friends have just taken delivery of theirs, so your video is timely - I'll share it with them! I have driven a Tesla since 2014, so road trips, EV driving and trip planning is not an issue for me anymore. Since I live on Vancouver Island and I've only done road trips during good weather, your challenges with snow, cold, and charging are new to me...
This is such an awesome trip...showcasing one of the coolest looking (and impressive) EVs along with the beauty of Canada. Well done and keep up the awesome work. Hope Petro Canada is watching so they can make the investments to improve their network!
Lords of Waterdeep is great! Excellent video. Have been curious about how winter driving would affect an EV, this was a helpful video! Thank you.
Larger batteries give you the range but you trade off charging time. Small/medium batteries charge very quickly. I've road tripped with my 38kw/h ioniq and you spend like 15 minutes charging at 50kw/h chargers and move on to the next one. It's a very efficient use of time IMO.
Glad to see Canadian ev roadtrip content.
Good job!
Having owned a Volt for 4 years, with no road trip charging issues, the hassle with fast charging a pure EV is quite revealing. I can't imagine how difficult it will be when EV's become more mainstream.
I imagine it'll be less difficult.
Here in The Netherlands we’re lucky to have reliable and ubiquitous fast charging infrastructure (took a good number of years though). The Fastned/Ionity networks really make it a breeze. Can’t wait for y’all to get to a similar reliability and coverage (which I imagine is a good deal more difficult)
Awesome video man! Also from Newfoundland and thinking of buying an ioniq 5. This was a really helpful review for that decision. 👏
Glad I could help!
Driving EVs can be challenging, thrilling, agitating, exciting etc. At the end, it is worth it for the future. Thank you for the video. I don't feel like a lonely wolf.
The I5 will charge to a top rate of about 230-240kw shown by other reviews to date, which is amazing and equal to the other fastest EV cars on the road. Wont see the fastest speeds until battery temps are warmer and we see some pre heat update software. Gotta say to date with just under 4800km I love my LR RWD, no issues. Efficiency for me has been 17kwh over the 4800km to date, it is even getting lower as temperatures warm up here in BC. Great review guys, this car will only get better with software updates which will come:) EV6 is a tad better w efficiency due to design. The fit finish and design imho is way nicer than Tesla comparisons of Model Y and M3, not as fast in AWD form or as efficient but way more unique and better build quality imho. Cheaper to boot as well. So pick your poison!
The car can only charge up to 220kW, not 350. Surprising that you got even close to 100kW at those low temps. Best I've seen below 0C is 80kW, funny enough at a Electrify Canada which doesn't even appear on the built-in nav.
We've had ours for 2 months now and put 4K on it already and we love it.
its to cold for the high charge rating... in Germany with -10 celicius u have to drive the first battery 150 kmh on the Highway to get the full charging speed on IONITY 350 KW chargers... the Ioniq has a COLD GATE which they plan to update with agressive battery heating
@@LouRaX yeah it makes no sense that you couldnt aggressively heat the battery while plugged in to get higher charge speeds overall, this video has totally turned me off of the idea of EVs for a good while longer in Canada. -10 is not cold, it is the default temperature for 5 months of the year -> 300km of range total is abysmal, charging at fast chargers is more expensive than gas, and extremely time consuming if they cannot charge properly fast.
Seriously, I did the math from this video and this guy is paying more for fast charging than if he just bought gas, even with temporarily elevated gas prices.
@@AbeYousef i will aggressivly preheat before even pluggin in after the Update... u have to type your rapidcharger in the navigation and then it will bring it to the perfect temperature before u arrive
Our eqs450+ got 149kw in -5c yesterday.
@@lukezi3952 u need a low SOC and u need to type the charging station u drive too in the navigation so that it preheats the battery for max charge rates
Love it! Well done guys!
Thanks man!
@@coolboy5428 Evil?
FINALLY! This is the video I've wanting to watch. I live in Montreal, I pre-ordered the Ioqni5 2 months ago, but all my worries and fears summarize in this video. Thank you SO MUCH!
I'm originally from Fredericton and loved to see the little stop in my city. Great video!
Great trip. It's a sign of things to come. Problem being, that down the road when there are more EVs, the wait times for recharging will be longer. Maybe they'll have wireless charging by the time I get one. Put a wireless charger in my driveway (or service station) and park on it. Lol. Looking forward to part 2 Mark.
We have had our 22 kona ev and it has gotten wild how many times we can find chargers fully taken up in towns that don't have many in the cold Canadian winters here and our property flooded we havnt had a chance to install a lvl 2 charger yet so we have lived off of lvl 3 chargers I'm town however our town was just approved for what is expected to be western Canada's largest ev charging station and we already have a crap load of lvl 3 in our small town so I think it is getting there slowly but surely especially with the gas prices these days more and more evs/hybrids being bought these chargers are going to start popping up
Or we can stop electing old fart bags that give subsidies to oil corps. Don't even have to take them all away if it still that delusional about ice's. Even 15% given to national initiatives for more charging stations would put us on the right track. Just some food for thought.
Wireless charging will never happen. Especially over the distance from the ground to the car. It’s very inefficient even when there is direct contact. Totally a pipe dream at range. The waste of energy would be monumentally catastrophic on a large scale and the heat and slowness would make it impractical.
@@PadyEos 100% agree with you.
@@6door6four96 What town is getting "western Canada's largest ev charging station"? I'm assuming your town is on the Trans-Canada Highway.
Came from the video on the fans and am now subbed as I really enjoy your personality and editing style. Keep up the great videos!
Thank you so much!
The Ioniq 5 can only draw up to 225 kw and only if the battery is warm. It didn’t look like the battery was warm.
That looks like it would be a great trip in the summer.
ts to cold for the high charge rating... in Germany with -10 celicius u have to drive the first battery 150 kmh on the Highway to get the full charging speed on IONITY 350 KW chargers... the Ioniq has a COLD GATE which they plan to update with agressive battery heating
@@LouRaX Or faster
I believe the my2023 will have battery preheating so hopefully that'll improve things.
None of that explains the 60kW charging rates though…
@@afcgeo882 we have seen it in cold german weather its really just the low battery temperature... if u speed 150 kmh too the first charging stop its warm enough but if u go slower its still cold and wont charge fast enough.... Hyndai promised a software update in the future to adress and fix that feature... because they have a battery heater inbuild... it its only use from -5 celicus to +5 celicius... we would need 20-25 celcius for optimal charging speeds... The reason why they dont preheat battery standartly is because it would give a very high short trip comsumption... So they need to know you want to charge in 300km or do you just go 20km to the supermarket
I enjoyed this video, quite informative. From what I saw, an "oil" trip that takes about 12 hours with 2 breaks and fill-ups transforms into a two-day trip with an electric car due to charging times
. . . which means the same trip will end-up more than tripling on "electric" because now you need extra food, a hotel night and a full extra day to get to your destination.
Completely different story if the trip a leisure road-trip, of course.
Like he said he wants trying to make it in the fastest it was just a casual road trip. I don't see how a few charging stops makes up 24+ hours difference.
More like he would have spend the same time in a gas car because he was taking his time minus maybe a few hours.
Thank you for this. This is exactly what I want to do with the Ioniq5 when we get it, hopefully charging infrastructure continues to improve.
I'm also a Canadian and the range in the cold scares me a lot. Every single weekend I drive 204km round trip. In -10 if it only has 290km range going only 110km/h that's not very good for me. Also I assume this is 290km from 100% charge? The car recommends you charge only to 80%.
Most people on the 401 will be incredibly aggressive if you're going as slow as 110. The defacto speed out here is 120 - 140. Factor in a headwind and I'm guessing this thing would struggle to hit the 200km range at a speed of 120 at -10c. That's really scary.
Also -10c isn't even that cold. That's like a normal winter day. It often gets down to -20 or below here.
Your young and spirited. As for me, Im somewhat older and less inclined to be constantly stopping, being disappointed by the rate of charge and no less eating roadside food. I appreciate this window into doing a longer haul trip and having to bounce from charger to charger. The infrastructure has a long way to go. Your video harkens back to when everyone ran to Apple to be an early adopter of an MP3 player or pick up the original iPhones. Im thinking the emergence of EV constantly being dependable in all situations is still a ways away. Im thankful that we are all headed there globally because our planet cant handle the fossil fuel emissions anymore. Im holding my petrol car just for now until i feel safe that an EV can provide the existing 500 mile range I have in my Rx450h hybrid.
Awesome video Mark. I'm in Saskatchewan and the charging network here is a joke. Until it catches up or we get 800-1000km range there's no way I could get into an EV right now. Range anxiety is a real thing
I'm in the same boat, but given gas prices I'm starting to think that making the second vehicle an EV just to run around town day-to-day might be worth it soon.
In Saskatchewan as well, taking delivery of a Model Y in may. I have friends that own teslas here in regina, as for winter driving, they're good (couple had heating issues) , charging at home driving to work and around town. I do like the Ioniq 5, alot. I purchased the Model y for one main reason being in Saskatchewan, the charging infrastructure. Price wise, I would have chose the ioniq 5 if the charging infrastructure was better for non tesla EV's. I don't do winter road trips so 450km range is good, and if I had to travel I know the Tesla Superchargers would be reliable in comparison to the Petro Canada chargers which is questionable from what I've seen.
I want this one 😱😱😱
invest in Hyundai!
"it drives like a nice car" 😂 that had me in stiches.
great video!
Great vlog! I just got my first hybrid last year and love it. Maybe within the next decade, I'll catch up with you RUclipsrs and move into full EV driving.
I have a Tesla and live in Halifax, great to see a video made in Canada for Canadians; especially one in the Maritimes! Well done.
Thanks Mark, after watching Bjorn Nyland and Kris's channels on you tube, the consensus is do not use the climate controls until the car warms up the batteries in the cold (this includes summer when it is hot), you can usually see this on the charge levels. P.S. I believe Hyundia is going to fix this on their next software update. Yes many Petro Canada EV chargers are poorly maintained, I always use Plugshare to check on other user's experiences. I always use plug share when charging, leave comments on your charging session and regardless if good or bad so others may benefit. you got me to subscribe, I am a second EV owner, I still have my original 2019 Kia Soul EV (30KWH), loved it so much we needed a second car anyhow and Bought a 2020 Soul EV Limited (64KWH). My Hyundai Iconic 5 AWD Prefered long range Ultimate is due in in May, which we will trade the 2019 Soul EV. I had a KIA EV6 top trim GT line pack 2 on order it cam in 2 weeks ago and I still prefer the Ionic, for it's light interior, more space, more head room quieter etc, so my EV6 went to another KIA EV6 deposit holder. The EV6 is excellent but not my preference, had they had alight interior rather than always black I would likely have kept it. To bad Kia Canada has such a limited selection of interior colours, in USA you can dial in a light grey almost the same grey as the Ionic.
just to reiterate the Climate control also will warm or cool the batteries depending if they are too hot or too cold. This will hopefully also be updated on the next software update, where the car will give the batteries the preference, at least give you the choice.
Great video Mark. The conclusion I can make from your experience with the Ionic 5 is great car for the city where charging can be done overnight, but best to use an ICE vehicle on long road trips to avoid the hassles of charging, with todays infrastructure for fast chargers. Would consider an EV when the charging stations are at every corner like gas stations in the present day. Currently have an Ioniq PHEV and think this is the best choice for the intrastructure of elecrtic chagers in Canada.
Hey Stuart. How are you finding the ionic PHEV. What's the realistic ev only range in summer and winter. I was looking at getting one myself.
ts to cold for the high charge rating... in Germany with -10 celicius u have to drive the first battery 150 kmh on the Highway to get the full charging speed on IONITY 350 KW chargers... the Ioniq has a COLD GATE which they plan to update with agressive battery heating
Hey Mark! Love to see this, for so many reasons. To see someone from St. John's where I live now travel through Ontario, where I grew up, is fantastic. And learning more about how the Ioniq 5 drives is nice to see as well!
Subbed as soon as I saw Critical Roll on the infotainment screen. Great trip, fun car, thanks for bringing us along. On to part 2.
Thank you Mark. Great descriptions and explanations. Now I'm going to watch your 4K km Trip Report. Cheers
That was awesome. Thanks for sharing your road trip. Been on the fence with getting an EV or staying with gas for the next couple of years. I think your video swayed me to just sit tight for the time being.
The second PetroCan charge, it was probably the temperature of the battery was still super cold sitting overnight and the BMS was trying to protect it and had the speed reduced & limited. If I leave my Model Y overnight in a hotel and go straight to a Supercharger with arrival SOC of 20% in the same weather condition, I might be lucky to get 60kW in a V3 (250kW) Supercharger even the car has the battery preconditioned on it's way. Now, I always charge my car before going to a hotel at night with a warm battery if chargers are not available there.
By the way, love your video.
Man, great video.
One of the best travelogue video's I have ever seen.
You guys had so much fun. It was exciting watching every minute of this video. Thanks
This is brilliant. The Ioniq 5 is top of my wishlist. We are in Saskatchewan and in doing this trip you addressed many of our concerns. Thank you so much.
Glad I could help!
I can’t wait to get one but I’m keeping my hybrid Highlander for my extended road trips.
Great video. I did this drive with you, except faster lol. I moved to Halifax at the end of February.
I'm going to be making this trip yearly, thankfully not in the winter to visit my parents.
I put a deposit down on an Ioniq 5 with a 18 to 24 month waiting period. Even if I have to wait for a 2025 model, I will be happy as they are already making great improvements to this car. For example the 2023 model keeps the battery warm while on a charger.
You should make more videos with the car.
The reason you didn’t get 350 kw charging is coz no EV supports it yet. Even the Porsche Taycan with the 800v system can handle only upto 280 kw. Also it’s very cold out there, and the battery needs to reach a certain ambient temperature before it’s safe to charge at a faster rate while maintaining battery health.
@@roderick401 but it is never 350kW - I believe for technical reasons it never could be.
@@roderick401 Yes, it needs a 350 kW charger to ensure its 800 volts, just like the car.
That still means that time is the best possible, won't happen until they get the pre conditioner worked out.
Battery needs to be 25 degrees, and that won't happen by itself in minus 10 weather.
….in summer temperatures. All EVs battery chemistries have much lower charging speeds/currents in canadian winter temperatures. I still remember my minus 50 degrees C experiences in Labrador City NL
Great Video ! Great Canada ! Tkx Mark , good job !!
Charging East is a pretty clever name. First time watching but well put together stuff all around.
Great video, nice to see some proper snow as well, something we don't get a lot of in the UK nowadays. Had to go and get something to eat after seeing all that appetising food in the video.
Great vlog! All this preparation and the different stops makes it really look like an expedition! Thank you for sharing! ⚡🔌🚘
I spend 20 hours for 1700km. in the tesla,no hustle drive. In the winter time Toronto to Quebec city and back. So, what can i say, tesla still way ahead, but its a nice video to learn about.
Ioniq 5 is known to suffer from very slow charging while it's cold. Hyundai is supposed to release an update that will change the behavior of the thermal management system, so that the battery can stay warmer in the winter. That should allow it to reach 200-240 kW, like it does in the summer, but might reduce the range, since now the heater will have to work harder.
And no one knows when that update might drop...
Thanks for the great info and videos. I loved the brief Lords of Waterdeep glimpse. That's not a game you happen into playing if you're not a board game geek, and I like seeing the crossover into that world. I wish there were more board game places like that near us.
I’m going to preorder when available again but your video is a perfect example that EVs are still a pain when driving long distance and the only car in the family. I own a ram that I still use for everyday driving but I want a second vehicle must be EV to drive around town. I’d be easily able to crunch that trip in two days in my ram vs 3-4 days in ioniq. Ioniq is perfect as a second vehicle though. Anyone claiming that EVs will replace ICE vehicles anytime soon is out of mind. Hybrids are the answer.
Looking forward to next episode of this road trip since I really like the views and also have an Ioniq 5 on order. Thanks for sharing your experience!
In your review, you complained about the lack of entertainment options in the info-tainment center. But that little shelf at 8:41 looks perfect for BYOD!
Hi Mark, this is some truly great content. I am now subscribed with notifications on!
Keep up the good work.
Thanks Carl!
Loved it Man you're great at story telling
Thanks so much!
It's good that you're talking about kilometers, not miles.👍🏼😉
Great video and very informative! The coolest part though for me was discovering that you were driving the through the storm around Truro the same time I was. The truck off the road on the exit - I drove by that on my trip to Halifax that same day! Small world. Thanks Mark for the video.
Crazy!
Board game cafes are such a good idea. More of the please.
The only feasible thing missing is the rear wipers needed for the Canadian Winter on heavy snowy days. One can never melt them fast enough.
I would love a whole RUclips channel just for EV road trips like this, or the one MKBHD did.
best ev review chanell tabarnak :D
Haven't even watched the video and I already know it's a good one!! Looking to do the same trip in the summer with my model 3.
It took less than 3min into the video to see your true colours!! Good to see a fellow Canadian Critter on my RUclips feed.
I've been watching C3 but I skipped EXU, so I was going back and listening while waiting for new episodes!
@@MarkSpurrell it's such a great show to listen to while driving as well. Looking forward to EXU2 which I think is airing tonight. Thanks for the great video. Lots of great info.
For anyone who hasn't done this drive. I did it in less than 2 days in a Honda civic... Toronto Quebec city 1 day. Day 2 Quebec city to Halifax gets you in afternoon.
great video, love the review! did you know for petro canada stations with a rbc visa, i think the first 2 years is free and they rebate or refund you the charging costs. I haven't seen any petro canada charger stations in the west coast yet, gva area, cant wait to watch the next one!
Great ad for "not" getting one of these EVs... just yet. Not completely because of the deficiencies of the vehicle, but the woefully lacking charging station availability. I think that the good news is that by the time the charging infrastructure becomes "usable", there will be some amazingly good EVs. Really enjoy the video... "most of it".
👽🖖"Na-nu"
That man is listening to Critical Role! Thought we wouldn’t notice, but we did. 😝💛
The charging strategy was painful to watch 😂 couldve spent just half the time. However im impressed by the rather small range hit in this weather. Seems like EVs are fine in the winter :)
Love these videos!
Great video………but seeing all the troubles you had with charging I think I will put off with buying an EV for a few more years.
How much does it cost you in Canada to fully charge your battery 🔋 from 0% to 100% at one of those charging stations ?
Loved this video. Can't wait for part 2
Fun and entertaining video ! I grew up on Lake Huron....haven't seen that kinda snow in 30 years, since moving to Florida.
I'm looking forward to the larger Hyundai ionic 7.
Great stuff so far. I started with the Ionic review and now I'm watching this travel series. But I noticed you have a bad habit of saying Kilowatt HOUR when you just means Kilowatt. Don't get energy and power mixed up!
Excellent road trip video. And a real test of the car in those conditions. (Conditions we will never see in the UK!). Unfortunately this car "cold-gates" anyway. It does not have effective battery conditioning to warm the battery up, and so even when plugged in to a suitable charger, it tends to max out at 120kW in cold conditions. Its maximum charge rate even in summer temperatures (20-25 degC) is limited by Hyundai at present to about 220kW. That is still plenty fast enough!
Wait! You're in St. John's?! Can't wait for that Becki & Chris collab!
This car confused the heck out of me. It looks like a small hatchback but sitting inside it i could see the gigantic size you have. Its much bigger than a Q4 E-Tron. Price is incredible and all extra equipment you can buy is very very cheap compared to Tesla, Ford and Audi. I can totally understand why it has won so many EV prizes but im not sold on the design...... or i would insta buy this.
Buy the kia ev6
Not a bad video, but I wish you were more detailed about the EV aspect of this trip.
For example, it would have been nice to show/tell us the battery percentage at the end of every leg of the trip both before and after charging.
wow its snowing and you dont care to close curtains on sunroof , what a smart review
Love your colour choice for both exterior and interior
your video just successfully killed my urge to buy an electric car, i love the technology but no way i want to live in constant worry like this until the infrastructure catches up.
Very cool video on the Ioniq 5. Looking forward to Part 2.
Interesting - I just completed a much longer trip to the East Coast from Quebec City and back. Though - it was in my own car. Fascinating this car vlog thing.
very cool. I'm in Halifax and wondered how well it would go.
This was cool to watch. Great job on this. Being a Tesla owner I don’t realize how long the charging times are for other EVs.
In warm weather the Hyundai Chargers faster than a Tesla. Unfortunately it has Bad charging speeds in cold weather
Thanks Danny!
How do you find a Tesla owner in a crowd? You don't have to, they come over and tell you. :)
The Tesla network is a massive differentiator.
This video seemed very nicely produced. It would be great to compare the cost of the charging vs how much would a gas car cost. Ioniq 5 looks fantastic.
nice roadtrip. going through canadian winter roads on an ev took some courage and endurance gotta say. have a hyundai kona ev and because of all those problems you encountered I leave it at home and take the diesel car instead. will be getting a tesla long range soon so that I can hit these european roads with the superchargers a sure thing and a matress in the back for sleeping while charging.
excellent video, Thanks for the information. I am looking forward to part 2
Great coverage of your trip. Thanks
In the Tesla or Polestar 2 you just enter your destination and the car will figure everything out. The legacy automakers are just lagging behind with their software. Not a shortcoming of electric cars.
Great video review. Did you end up purchasing the long range? I am wondering if it's worth the price vs the standard range. I live in Montreal so we have dreadful weather in winter. I find the AWD expensive.
My biggest hesitation with EVs was and is the infrastructure. You're right, it's not 'there yet'. Am being unrealistic expecting to find a charger as easily as a gas pump?
But the real question is who won Lords of Waterdeep? 😉 I’ve done that trip a few times back home to NS and I’m sure the drive would have been more fun in the ev than my old GM. Great video, great channel!
I did! 🤓
aaaaaaand the lack of a robust infrastructure for non-tesla EV's is exactly why I'm waiting to get one. For now, good old reliable (albiet expensive) gasoline for me!
I noticed that you said you got lucky because you didn't have to pay for the electric. In CA if you were to buy the ioniq you get a year of free charge. Pretty nuts.
Excellent video! Thanks. I drive between Fredericton and Ottawa at least once per year. Perhaps I have too much faith in those PetroCan chargers that I was counting on once I get an EV. Hopefully the Electrify Canada eastern expansion happens soon!
Fingers crossed!
Im suggesting before this trip you come 1 day early just because you can rest at some place no need to be expensive or anything but prepare for the long trip. Just from my own experience
I have couple of KIA's (eniro esoul), with 64kwh batterypack. Range when outside temp is +10C is about 500KM (400 in winter), tell me how it is possbile that new models like IONIQ5 or KIA EV6 have about 400KM range? Consumption seems significantly higher in new models, and thats not good. Ill stick with older models, at least to the point they are still avaiable to buy.
Great video Mark!
Think that was a great trip but having owned the car since 2022 could you give us an update about any problems you had since 2022. Thanks
Thank you for this video! In the market for an EV and being in Canada top was very helpful to see how the EV fared in Canadian winter :)
Sounds so stressful wondering if you’d make it to the next charge and then they didn’t work well if at all. Cute car and love your clips though. Not sure how you manage on the cold waiting all that time for it to charge or me in Australia in 36oC heat waiting for the charge up.