2022 Hyundai Ioniq5 EV | Fixing Failed Experiments
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
- We review the 2022 Hyundai Ioniq5 the latest mainstream EV, also similar to the Kia EV6. We breakdown, how its made, the big differences in design and engineering and how it compares to Tesla Model 3, Ford MachE, VW ID4, and Tesla Model 3. Expect the to hear the good and bad and plenty more.
#cars #ev #ioniq5
Index
00:00 Intro
1:12 The Story
2:40 Interior Exterior Impressions
11:34 Mechanical Impressions
18:31 Driving Impressions
23:56 Final Thoughts 
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I've seen I don't know how many reviews of this car and its Kia sibling. Yours added considerably to my knowledge base and I'm actually glad you got the car late. You guys' approach to car reviews is so thoughtful, interesting, informative, different.
That’s SG for you. Welcome to the club!
Here Here!!!! 👌
this was dope, throttlehouse was also great and theyre doing more with it on their instagram right now definitely a cool model/step for cars in general
I've only heard Savagegeese and Alex on Autos (in a Redline review actually) mention the i-pedal or regen braking making passenger heads bop and that could make you car-sick. That's actually a pretty important thing to mention and I'm glad they did. Shows how thorough they really are.
*your, not “you guys’ “
But agreed, SG makes incredible content
I understand the anxiety of being the "last in the media" to get your hands on one of these. But the great thing about y'all having actual real-world expertise is we'll gladly wait for a take that gives us more than the 1,003 "pretty good, looks neat!" videos that have been done on the Ioniq 5. You made it clear the Hyundai means business, and I think the whole Ioniq line is really gonna take a big share of the market in the coming years.
Speaking of expertise, congrats to Cinematographer Jack on packing focal length and f-stops on top of his world-renowned engineering prowess. Cheers
Being late has led to better content here imo. Being the last gives the opportunity to be different and use a new perspective
@@unuseableb imo it also doesnt really hurt because most of us car nerds have mutliple channels we goto and having more content especially for new things is always welcome in this community moreso than others
This is why I watch this channel. It's so frustrating when every car review is "looks good, has pedigree, feels nice and has soul". That doesn't help me at all. I want to know what kind of suspension it has, what the interior looks like and how it functions for daily driving.
The US National Highway Traffic Safety Administration issued a recall for 2019-2020 Hyundai Kona and 2020 Hyundai Ioniq electric vehicles after over a dozen battery fires were reported. The agency is also warning owners against parking their vehicles near their homes or any flammable structure.
An electrical short in the Kona’s lithium-ion battery cells increases the risk of fire while parked, charging, and driving, NHTSA said, adding, “The safest place to park them is outside and away from homes and other structures.”
Last month, Hyundai announced that it would recall some 76,000 Kona EVs built between 2018 and 2020 over battery fire concerns. It was the second recall for the Kona but the first one that was global in nature. The automaker also said it would recall some Ioniqs and electric buses that it manufactures. In total, Hyundai said it would recall 82,000 vehicles, which it estimates will cost $900 million.
@@fffwe3876 - Same with the Bolt, which also used LG batteries. I'll be surprised if LG doesn't go bankrupt over this battery cock-up.
Hyundai and Kia are proof that any brand can revamp/improve themselves.
Tell that to ford. They are now just a truck brand.
@@aono335 Considering how much margin they make on trucks, I'm pretty sure they're happy with their decisions.
If only Chrysler could learn from them 🤣
Outside of Chris Harris, you literally have the best car reviews on RUclips. Thank you for staying true to reality.
Definitely up there with Jason Cammisa
Driven with Tom Voelk is also worth a look
@@240zwannabe Adam Sandler is funny sometimes, but I also like Henry Catchpole
@@Indskret
I don't think that their is a single soul that hates Henry.
Also Catchpole and Fara
My dad just bought one of these. It’s quite a vehicle to drive and see. Everything about it is, for lack of a better word, futuristic.
Hope he got it at msrp; too many dealers are adding markup
It looks like a plastic carton on wheels from inside and out. Hyundai is up to their gimmicky designs again.
@@johnnybravo5044I don’t love the looks but it’s certainly a break from the humdrum, “disappear on the road” designs other manufacturers have been putting forth.
@@johnnybravo5044 I find the Kia's styling more gimmicky honestly; I5 is more retro
@@aygwm Looks is polarizing, but the styling appeals to a more mature buying audience probably.
One of the most unique and refreshing designs to come out in a long time!
yes. this, the honda e and some concepts i saw looked great. i really dig the minimalistic, modern reimagination of 70s/80s designs. these cars literally look like they come out of an old science fiction movie. If they come out with some actual fun driver electric cars i actually might consider it. (at the moment its either pure a-b transport or 500.000$ 2000HP ultra luxury stuff. have yet to see a fun backroad machine. the mx5 or fiesta st of the EVs so to speak. but they are bound to happen at some point.)
It’s massive though.
This car honestly looks stunning. It looks like a perfect cyberpunk and or futuristic retro vehicles. I’m truly happy with how Kia and Hyundai has evolved!!!❤️🔥
I’m a traditionalist that grew up loving accords, civics, GTI’s and my love for n/a V8 and n/a Porsche’s and this would be the first EV I would buy. That is after my never dying 07 Prius finally kicks the bucket.
You’ll be waiting a while fella, those Prius suffer from longevity.😁
@@Shane-zx4ps lol yep
One of my dream cars is the "Lancia Delta Integrale Evo 2". And this is the screaming electric reimagining of that car. I love this thing
I was just looking at comments to see if anyone else thought this. Looks so excellent!
Love the Giorgetto Giugiaro lines. Lancia Delta, VW Scirocco, Delorean, Hyundai's own Pony.
Important clarification regarding the charging of this vehicle. The 800v capability/architecture is part of the CAR, not the external public charging infrastructure. As such this car (and a few others, like the Porsche Taycan) can take advantage of already available public DC fast chargers of 350Kw to charge to 80% in roughly 18 minutes. Most other EVs are built around a 400v system and even if you hook a "400v" car up to that same 350Kw charger on the road, it would not be able to accept a charge that fast. So it's not that you are looking for a "800v" DC fast charger on road trips, it's that your Hyundai/Kia EV can pull up to the already available 350Kw fast chargers on the road and get you a quicker fill up.
Thanks for the clarification, always wondered what all the EV lingo meant.
Hope Mark/Jack see this. They should make a whole video breaking all of this down. I believe everything that was stated in this comment to be true, I just don't understand any of it. lol
Seems like the fast-charge in these cars would degrade the battery quicker, similar to the same feature in cell phones. I see why it’s needed, but I’d prefer a system that keeps the battery “fresh” for longer.
@@moloono1 that's just level 1/2 charging, you plug in to lower power and charge overnight or while at work, depending where the charger is. DC fast charging is really just for long trips, the bread and butter of EV charging is just charging slowly while you're already parked
@@moloono1 Most people almost never use fast chargers because they charge at home.
And actually I can imagine 800V Systems degrade less over time because normally much less heat is generated while charging (this is one of the main points why 800V systems can charge faster).
I love how you and Jack slowly became the perfect automotive duo. Smoothly Bouncing ideas and explanation of each other, throwing subtle jokes and mixing phenomenal cinematography with exceptional editing. Savageese in no longer a RUclips channel. It's an experience, a category on its own. Just when I missed the older long format, you reintroduced it. Thank you plenty.
"Savageese in no longer a RUclips channel. It's an experience, a category on its own." I mean they're a good channel but this is beyond circlejerk-y.
Okay take it easy there Noor. Also I’m curious to know where you saw Jack in this video??
@@user59371 He was in my heart
@@virid6819 Maybe condensing what I truly meant in a sentence didn't help my point to get across as I Intended. Allow me to elaborate. I think savageese is targeting a niche audience rather than appealing to the masses. Nobody talks more in-depth about everything a car has to offer like Mark does. And he did that since day on, you can go as far back as his 2015 GMC Yukon review. It really shows the man is a critique master.
That's why I think this channel is a category on its own.
And when people bring automotive journalism especially Chris Harris and Jason Cammisa into the conversation, they're getting it wrong. Yes both are charismatic fantastic presenters and very entertaining to watch, but just because they're in the automotive category doesn't mean they belong to the same conversation as savageese.
And I'm not by any means interested in upvotes or like, it's not like I convert them to money. I just spoke my mind and heart, a famous Arabian trait.
@@user59371 I was commenting about the channel in general and didn't want to leave him out of the conversation.
I live in Southern California, which is likely to be the core market for this vehicle and I've already seen a lot of them on the road. It maybe biased because this vehicle has a ton of road presence (the anti-NPC mobile). Looks like Hyundai might have a hit on their hands with this one.
I'm in ct and have seen two. They are beauties. The owner I talked too was super chill unlike some owners who have bugs up their ass
This car design will be future NPC car and ot only comes in grey, silver, white and black color.
Funny you say this is the anti-NPC mobile because I was watching this thinking the Ioniq 5 really makes the Model 3 and Model Y look like the definition of NPC mobiles.
@@ElCachorro97 blue and teal too
Drove both of the E-GMPs. Kia is a sportier drive, more cockpit, driver focused interior.
Both cars the best in class EVs
Can’t forget the warranty, best I’ve seen for an EV, and definitely helped with buying anxiety. 10 years (or mileage) on a battery is no joke
I recommend to read people's reviews on Kia/Hyundai warranty cases.
@@user-rq3vt4kg4o not following the maintenance schedule is most of the complainers issues
And now there’s battery gate, where they’re charging Ioniq 5 owners $60k for a new battery. No joke.
Yikes, this comment aged poorly. Not your fault though
I had delayed watching this believing I had seen enough review videos on the IONIQ 5. But. The depth of information, and the simplicity and quality of presentation made this the best review of the IONIQ 5. Thank you.
I would totally choose this or the Kia over a Tesla. I'm more than willing to sacrifice a little speed to gain a tremendous amount of reliability and build quality.
I don't know if I would say that KIA or Hyundai are known for "tremendrous" reliability quite yet. They're improving though.
@@leecm Well relatively speaking based on reports....Hyundai group is one of the top in terms of quality as a brand. And if you compare specifically w/ Tesla...I mean...Tesla isn't anywhere near the worst actual car manufacturer out there. Tesla has consistently been rated the worst quality by any report (panel gaps, paint quality, fit/finish, etc etc). We're talking normal stuff (it's an iPod masquerading as a car. I could build a better quality car. Lol
This car is actually really damn fast
Yes. Hyundai and Kia are average in reliability, but Tesla is near the bottom. They have had so many problems getting their cars properly assembled and painted. That's ridiculous given the prices they charge. I'd much rather have this practical box of a car than the swoopy Model Y.
@@markmiller3279 Average in reliability? What do you base that on? All objective publications based on actual data say Hyundai Kia Genesis (HMG) in the past 5 years are in the tops for reliability. Granted the old HMG had sketchy reliability which most people base their opinions on.
Ah yes, nothing like fresh Geese in the AM.
My accountant has this car, and I just have to say, it looks so much better in person than on video.
It does! And it’s also huge!
No it doesn't.
@@grahamstefaan Yes it does.
@@aerienix It’s the first EV I want besides the ID.4.
When I look at these I get a 90’s arcade vibe, and that is a GREAT thing.
You said you were probably the last to review this car. The best was saved for last.
Great review.
I test drove this recently and if I had the money and somewhere to charge it (I don't have a garage), I would have bought it. I'm not paying markup so it would have been difficult, but I would have moved heaven and earth to make it happen. Love the car! Not as fast as the Model Y, but drove better and is made better.
How do you go about test driving one? Search Hyundai Inventory for a dealer that has one, call and ask?
Please do not say any car is better than a Tesla. It’s triggering and I’ll have to tell on you via Twitter message to Elon.
@@BeanieNinjay0 LOL! No worries. He already knows.
@@BeanieNinjay0 I mean... all electric cars these days are 100% way better than tesla in everywhere except range.
Actually, the Ioniq 5 and EV6 (AWD with bigger battery) are as fast or faster than any Model Y besides the Performance from about 0-80. Quarter mile, the Y is a bit faster. But there's the Ioniq 5 N and the EV6 GT which are again just as fast if not faster than the Performance...
Your transparency, honesty, and detailed feedback is always appreciated - we learn so much more about these products compared to what other reviewers provide.
I’ve so been looking forward to your take on this or the EV6.
I saw one of these in person for the first time a few days ago in Seattle. I thought it was *really* attractive. Love the rear and lights in particular. Super fun to look at.
Hyundai has been killing it the last 10-15 years but this is next level! I'm excited to see what else the future has in store for them.
Im actually quite impressed with Hyundai/Kia EV's
i’ve watched countless videos on this car already but i was still amped to see your take on it. well done, thanks 👍🏼
DUDE!! Been watching you for years, this review was perhaps one of your BEST! EVER!! Great job!! Thank you for all the time and effort you pour into all of your reviews!!!
Fantastic review, and great perspective that I haven't seen in what feels like hundreds of IONIQ 5/EV6 videos. Keep it up!
This is such a well executed car. They seem to be hitting all the nails on the head these days.
If only it wasn't the ugliest thing ever.
@@kbreezy004 Again, eye of the beholder. Some people absolutely love the looks. Of course, they made the EV6 for those that hate the looks of the Ioniq 5. Basically the same car with much more typical EV modern looks.
@@TorgoLives yep. Style is subjective. To me Tesla model 3 and Ys are ugly. Other things it is beautiful.
The instrument cluster looks like a bunch of I pads stuck together into one. Not to mention the white bezel looking cell phone exterior.
@@TorgoLives They both suck.
I’ve watched a billion reviews and this is something really special. I love the depth you go into. Subbed!
Glad to see you doing more EVs. And I dig the return to the longer form video. Hopefully view counts on this and future EV vids spur you to keep covering them.
As always, a great thorough review, nut to bolts, pros and cons. A car is uniquely individual to the driver. SAVAGE GEESE is the best thing to actually getting behind the wheel of your own test drive.
Thank you for an honest and well thought review.
The four dots on the steering wheel are morse for letter H, clever they kept the logo, but didn't.
The small room in the front by the floor are good for the items you need only after when you park, at the dealer they kept the RFID tags for different charging suppliers.
We are very blessed to have so many great car reviewers like you guys, learning so much from all of you. Keep up the great work!
This review and rundown…was awesome. The work put-in, the pace, the breadth of information, the perspective and the focus made it more than comprehensive.
Strong, thorough and professional review. Most detailed review of the Ioniq 5 I have seen (and I have seen many). Thank you.
This is the absolute best review of this car on the internet and significantly adds to the understanding of the vehicle beyond the usual regurgitation of a spec sheet and then shouty qualitative superlatives about the usual driving focus points. I especially loved the background portion. Nice job!
I love the time you spend working on these long form reviews. A lot of the early review channels can just say looks cool, seems neat.
I have seen what seems like a million videos on a variety of cars by many other reviewers and they don't have a thing on you. Your videos are very well done, very thorough, informative without overloading on the specs, and I could go on. Well done gentlemen.
Ioniq 5 is a really sharp machine. Love how this looks and drives. I loved the production of your vid. Great review.
You made us petrolheads look forward to driving an electric small Hyndai SUV with your excelent and honest review Mark. Excelent video as always.
Like pretty much every video of your channel, this is (again) the very best review I've seen so far of this particular car. But that counts for every car you review. So much knowledge, so many (technical) details. You are the true authority in the RUclips car channels. Thanks for letting me enjoy your work.
I’ve watched a lot of reviews but this one is really helpful. I like that you keep a calmer voice a lot of these reviewers always feel like they’re yelling. Great production value too.
This is the review I've been waiting for on this car. We're contemplating what to get for our next car and I want to go EV. Your review is extremely helpful in figuring out what car to get next. A lot of the initial reviews while positive seemed to have hasty conclusions. I know that you're thorough and go over the important details, always worth the wait.
Excellent review Mark, excellent. The most comprehensive, detailed review I have seen on this model, possibly any EV. Congratulations.👍👏
Gorgeous, insightful stuff as always, SG crew. Appreciate ya’ll. What a fascinating, mind-bending time to be a car nerd… while I can’t afford to jump in to the EV market just yet, I’m grateful for work like this that goes into great detail in helping us make this super-important transition over time.
I am so glad you finally did this review because I was waiting for this from YOU!
Btw I already own an EV6 and your review of the Ioniq 5 was a lot of what my thoughts were of the Hyundai/Kia platform when I purchased it. Again Thank You.
Best styled car I've seen in 25 years! I'd get one if our Forester was anywhere near needing replacement.
It's insane how good progress hyundai as a car brand has been doing for the last couple of years. They go full EV while also releasing enthusiast petrol cars like i30N or i20N! I think that's the future: 95% EV where you make the big money $$$ and 5% petrol cars for the car guy/gal, where you might take a loss but it's free PR for your brand!
Totally agree. We just got 2 of these. I never thought I would ever own a Hyundai and I love them. One of them replaced my dads fully loaded 2020 BMW X5 and it actually likes the Ioniq more.
I have been eagerly awaiting this review. Thank you for your hard work as always!
"and yes, this is how we pronounce it in the United States." I love it hahahaha subtle shots fired for the other guys video 🤣🤣🤣
I don't particularly "love" the design but I respect it, bc I can see what they wanted it to be, which is being a real head-turner, but also an entirely new page for their brand.
From what I've gathered so far, the Ioniq 6 could be the one I'm gonna drool over.
I couldnt get over the fugly screen set up. It's gonna be in your sight at all times. It just looks out of place and totally terrible. If you going to be supercheap with the screens and have them look like an afterthought, at least make the bezels dark. Like in the KIA. It's still terrible but it's not as much of an insult to the eye.
@@maxmeier532 lol get over it
@@maxmeier532 I think they try to give nice modern Scandinavian living room vibe. Too bad you don't get it.
@@maxmeier532 in with you Max, the bezel needs to be darker. Not Black necessarily, but darker.
it has an 80s throwback design - i see a lot of the DeLorean.
Car looks amazing! But it’s a nightmare dealing with any car dealer especially Hyundai dealers. Hyundai should start selling direct to consumer like Tesla.
Dealers are local businesses. Hyundai doesn't make them good or bad, and they vary just like any other mainstream brand. When we were shopping none years ago our local Hyundai dealer was the best of the brands we visited (Honda, Mazda, and Ford were all worse). The Hyundai guys knew their product, were happy to let us test drive, and were entirely willing to handle the final details via email. They even delivered the car to a closer dealership (not Hyundai) owned by the same people for us to pick it up. I'd happily deal with them again.
Of the others, only the Mazda salesman knew his product, and he just answered questions when asked. The dealership was inclined to the same "keep them waiting" tactics as so many others.
You are simply fantastic at reviewing cars ( and other stuff ;)
Appreciate also the exquisit sound and video quality.
This was Mark's best report since he explained the dangers of GDI and lack of port injectors. No swearing or cursing, not too much emotion, no sarcasm, just damn fine reporting. One of the best presentations I've seen for a long time. Great job Mark. More of this style of presentation please.
Hey Mark, great video, this is my dream car, looks fire. The 4 dots on the steering wheel spell out H in morse code, I think that's the intended meaning. Very clever if you ask me.
Can you guys please do the Hyundai Elantra N soon? I'd really like to hear your input on how it feels compared to a VW GTI/R or Civic Si/Type R or Subaru WRX. I already bought an N, and I think it's incredible what Albert Beirmann was able to do with the car handling/performance-wise. I'd love a review done on the car by the kind of high-quality production and reviews savagegeese puts out.
Was expecting this video from you guys. Waited for you to watch to review!
Marccc, I really enjoyed your analysis of this car, especially with the original review style and new camera gear. Do more videos like this one.
Great report! Well balanced. I've owned mine 4mth now (in NZ), the base model 58kW rear drive. Style mixed retro-modern to my eyes. Never go back to ICE after the great combination of power, suspension, braking dynamics ... and SILENCE. Just a point: the 4 dots on the steering wheel likely are " H " - in morse-code! Look forward to your next update.....
I have a model 3 and a model y ( with 7 seats). I was thinking about changing my M3 RWD with IONIQ5 AWD (I am in Canada). I have watched many many videos on IONIQ5. You guys are the best in terms of answering the questions a real buyer has and many other things. My only concern with this car is the charging network. We are so used to Tesla's network ( which works all the time unlike others). Thank you for creating great content.
Literally the best video I have ever seen about the 5. The amount of detail really makes you feel that this isn't just about or focused on memes and entertainment. You are actually learning about this platform and what it does. Nothing wrong with the entertainment factor but the priority is on providing you with great information to make a knowledgeable decision. It is also entertaining to learn about the future of an entire brand based on this platform.
Finally, the review worth watching. Great video, great timing.
Excellent review, and vehicle, obviously. The comment about Hyundai/Kia's overreactive stability/traction control could not be more true. I've had several what feel like near-death experiences turning left or right under hard throttle at a busy intersection and having the power cut drastically. Now on my third new Kia SUV to do this, I've resorted to turning off the stability control ahead of time if possible in those situations.
That car is freaking silent. They did an amazing job with the sound isolation!
True, but all they really had to worry about was tire/suspension noise. A modern aerodynamic shape has little wind noise, and electric motors are very quiet. Still, they did do a good job on it.
Much quieter than Tesla.
Well done as always. It’s fun to see you guys, Throttle House, and MotoMan TV really talk cars.
I waited as long as I could for you to review this vehicle but I had to get one before you posted this. That being said, I'm pleased with your review and, being a proud owner of the Ioniq 5 Ultimate (Canadian Edition), I completely concur with your assessment. Thanks for always being candid and forthright. Your expertise and knowledge are a truly refreshing change from most of the guys doing these reviews... (with the exception of some of my Canadian brethren)
I think it looks fantastic. The wheels are awesome. I’ve been waiting for a solid hatchback style EV and this fits the bill.
This looks amazing and I'm excited to see how it trickles down, but $50k+ is painful. I'd probably get a plug-in Ioniq for closer to $20k, since it's still all-electric for everyday trips and no range anxiety for longer trips.
Yeah the Ioniq plug in is the current best deal in terms of pricing and affordability and practicality.
It's important to note that many will qualify for the US $7,500 tax credit, bringing the fully loaded AWD model from $54k to $47k or $40k for the mid tier RWD. They price it knowing such and will likely drop/increase the price as incentives change. It's certainly still an expensive vehicle, though.
@@bobthebuilder372 Fun fact, too, the Ioniq and other electric cars have an invoice and MSRP that are the same *because* of that rebate. Which, for a $50k car with Hyundai that might typically only be like $2-2.5k, but they're banking on those rebates both federal and state AND making dealerships bank on those, too
@@bobthebuilder372 sure. that is a big difference between $40K Ioniq 5 vs $20K Ioniq plug in after all rebate and tax credit.
@@bobthebuilder372 unfortunately that tax credit only goes towards taxes owed after you file. If you get a refund, there's nothing to deduct :/ I wish they made it more straightforward
Great review!! I, apparently, have a similar need from a personal car. Your descriptions of the various trade-offs inherent in the driving experience seem spot on to me.
Many said it here but just wanted to add another 2 cents … your reviews are great. Fantastic balance between interior, exterior and under the car observation!
I really like that car and want to buy it, but I feel like the inconsistency of the charging network would piss me off.
It depends how many road trips you'd plan to take it on. I wouldn't buy an EV if I didn't have some way to charge at home. EV's have the greatest benefit for daily commutes, driving in the city, etc where they are the most efficient and won't need to charge. Plug it in when you get home and wake up to a full charge the next morning.
If you want to take longer road trips, it likely would. However, it's improving all the time, and that should speed up as more people buy non-Tesla EVs.
I work near a Kia and Hyundai dealerships and see these everywhere now! It’s so weird how different automakers do things like I’ve seen some Ioniq 5’s with Halogen reverse lights yet this one has LED and the EV6 has LED as well
First off I must say that I felt that you gave a very comprehensive, detailed, and objective review of the Hyundai Ioniq 5, while at once providing us with your personal insights as to what makes the Hyundai Motor Company tick - insofar as their passionate quest to produce a truly consumer-friendly, quality EV vehicle with trim and performance options to reach many different economic levels. I absolutely loved the high technology assembly imagery you used so effectively in your presentation. Personally, I have been following this car, reserving it in May of last year initially then working with the dealership to bring it home to me. I have been informed that my AWD Ioniq 5 limited is at the Port of Arrival with delivery to the dealership in mid April '22. Thank you for your very professional and enjoyable in depth review!
Great review. We’ve had ours a few weeks now. We love it. But I remind myself that these are the early years, and it will be interesting how the landscape for EVs changes in the future.
While this and the Kia EV6 aren't to my liking style wise, I can respect how unique they are, along with how interesting and differentiated the product is. Being strictly a sedan/coupe guy I'm very interested to see what the Ioniq 6 will look like.
I own a kona ev and I hate it because every day I can see the missed opportunity and the potential an electric platform would have in a RWD sedan. With the ioniq 5 being so solid I have really high expectations for ioniq 6 as well
Ev6 will be my next car without a doubt
Haven't seen them in person however I think the Hyundai looks pretty good. The kia not so much. Kind of the reverse of the telluride/palisade.
I think this and the ford will be the best to live with assuming you don't need the super charger network which is honestly the only reason to buy a Tesla.
@@HanYou2 Same here. The Kona is still very good for what it is (basically just a very competent compliance car), but it is frustrating in that you can see that all of the ice-packing problems are still carried through into the design, I will probably dump mine for an Ioniq 5 at some point when the potato chip shortage is over. Through it all, I recently drove a combustion Kona loaner while having a manufacturing defect fixed, and honestly going from driving electric for the last 3 years back to a combustion vehicle, I felt like I got cancer. Driving around with the raspy four cylinder, weak torque, it feels like you're driving a that car is broken, by comparison, I couldn't stand it, I think at this point I'd actually choose not own a car and save the cash, than have to drive a vehicle like that as my daily.
@@0hypnotoad0 true, and i can't understand haters driving 1.6 diesels calling EVs washing machines, and that they will never buy one
@2:26 Is that a Scott Turbowski sighting? I miss that dude. He was funny AF. Why did they drop him?
Couldn't wait for ya to review this. I have a kona and will be jumping into one of these once my lease ends. Gotta go for the top spec ofc
This is the best ioniq 5 review I’ve seen and I’ve seen a ton of them. You just gained a subscriber. I’m a 2020 ioniq electric owner and I absolutely love my car. I was considering the upgrade but I’m going to wait. Range and battery technology is only going to get better. I do wish I had a flat floor and full glass roof. One thing I wish hyundai would keep is the BUTTON GEAR SELECTOR. Some people hate it I LOVE IT. I think it’s really cool and futuristic makes my car feel more like a robot. 💯🖤
I'm impressed with this and the EV6. Not long ago we would look at 300hp as good for an expensive sports car, and now we have faster SUVs with most of the weight centered under you, and they're not crazy expensive. I found that in passing, this car's interior looked too plain, but it seems to have everything and the exterior design definitely stands out. Well done Hyundai, I would love to see this platform in a new Genesis Coupe.
Aren’t these $55K? Not cheap. But I agree with all your other points.
@@mbyte84 Yeah they're not $20k or anything, but sportscars with this much power cost way more, let alone SUVs that are any fast
@@mbyte84 That's for a loaded version. The more basic models still have excellent performance and a nice interior, if lacking some of the fancier bits.
Car looks good with an airy interior that has tons of light reflecting off surfaces. Making it bright and clean inside.
I always watch your review before I make decisions for next car. I bought 2017 Genesis G90 after your review, now I am looking for an Ioniq 5. Thanks for such great reviews
That was one of the best "driver's impressions" segments I've seen or heard. Simply explained, and with a depth of detail that didn't require knowledge of quantum physics and string theory.
So the car of the future doesn’t need a rear windshield wiper to wipe away all the road grime and winter slop from your window? Every hatch I’ve owned sucks all this crap right to the back window. How the heck you gonna see?
The general shape kind of looks like a big Lancia Delta
cuz this car's design is inspired by their old model Hyundai Pony, which was designed by the same guy who also made Lancia Delta. Giorgetto Giugiaro.
Great video dude, with awesome visuals. Seen a couple of these on the road in the UK and they look great, much bigger in real life. They have really nailed the design, my own personal view is the interior could be more sporty, I am loving the led lighting inside the cabin, especially around the speaker grills.
Fantastic in depth review.
Thank you for all the excellent information and opinion.
It is a wonderful looking vehicle. It seems as though the Korean brands are really picking up their game. Every one of their vehicles looks unique, the interiors are sharp, and the quality is good. Pair that with the best warranty in the biz, and you’ve got a winner.
I’m a truck owner, but I certainly wish they’d enter that market.
This design somehow fits well with what Hyundai is doing! Looks unlike anything in their lineup but familiar enough (a lil bit of Audi influence imo, I think). Hope u guys do Hyundai's other brother, lol:
Genesis GV60 EV too.
Your reviews of all vehicles are infinitely better than any of the other reviewers. How come other reviewers get many more views? Same with food really - most people eat fast food. Like food, most people are missing out on the best. Please keep up the excellent work - much appreciated by the cognoscenti.
Best review out there of this vehicle. Great work, very thorough.
Counterpoint to the comment in the intro about some of the company's other EVs being gas cars with batteries packed into them - I'm fairly certain the Kona was originally designed with electrification in mind which is why the EV version is able to achieve such good range and not compromise space to fit the batteries
With Kona EV and E-Niro, electrification was was in mind but it was still not a priority. A well packaged EV will almost always take the form of RWD-based and have a frunk (or a huge interior if no frunk). Going FWD with an EV is basically nonsense, there's way too much torque to reliably get it to the wheels. The Kona and E-Niro are dominated by insane tire peeling and torque steer, the under the hood space is dominated by a lot of empty space, they definitely could have packaged both vehicles more efficiently if they had reduced the size of the nose and moved the bulk of the powertrain to the rear.
@@0hypnotoad0 @0hypnotoad0 The Kona does have a lot of wheel spin if you're hard on the accelerator pedal, but it also has the characteristics of an electric hot hatch so it can be fun in that sense, and of course a bespoke EV will package in an electric drivetrain better than one that's designed to also accomodate a gas one, under the hood of the Kona is pretty well entirely occupied by the electric motor though, it's not empty space like what you find in something like the Mazda mx-30
Thrilled you got one. If I was to get an EV right meow, this or the ev6 would be my picks. However, there are ZERO chargers with 150 miles of my house that are over 50 KWH. I hate tesla, but they’re the only solution currently because of their network.
You hate Tesla as a vehicle? As a brand? As the community? Hate is a strong word, and I'm no Tesla fanboy.
@@mofayer there’s some good things about them, sentry mode is genius and their charging network integration into navigation is brilliant. But after that, it all falls apart. Their cars as a whole are not built to any fraction of their price point, Tesla customer service is horrendous and the company as a whole is very strongly anti-right to repair, making fixing these things extremely difficult and expensive. They did a few things right, but stepping away and trying to take bias aside, they don’t seem practical to own long term and their manufacturing, quality control, maintainability and customer service are massive detriments. Not saying others are perfect, but the impact that Tesla has had on the industry has also had the same pros and cons. A con being their tech mentality of ‘put everything in software, take all the buttons away, and then push it out regardless if it works, they can fix it with an update later’. Look at the new VW stuff, all through the infotainment and it’s horrible. I can’t blame them directly, but Tesla definitely set a tone going forward.
@@Suction_ ok, your use of "hate" is justified. All this points are valid, but their QC has improved the past couple of years. After all Tesla is a tech company first (self driving), car second, and that's what you get. Also, all car manufacturers are anti RTR, even more with their EVs.
@@mofayer I’ve heard that, and sure it’s improved, but my coworker just took delivery of a MY2022 model Y and the panel gaps issue is still a thing, and there’s some strange consistencies in the paint (blue). Interior is better, doesn’t seem as creaky, but it was almost $63,000. Sorry, I just don’t find that unacceptable. I know others are anti RTr, but not to the point that Tesla is at. I could at least go to autozone and get some sway bar end links for an ev6 someday, Something I don’t think you can currently for a Tesla. Obviously the battery concerns are the biggest ones there that Electrified garage and the like exposed pretty clearly
I've got twins due in August and need to get a roomy family car, this one popped up on my radar so I've watched tons of reviews... Have been hoping to see one from the GOAT! How is his review so much better than anyone else's, and in only 26 minutes?
I hope to see more content on this car soon as well as its sibling the EV6!
Can't wait to see your opinion on the EV6 and what the differences are. Great analysis as always!
Awesome review, Mark. I test drove the rwd long-range version of this car at my local dealer (they didn’t have any others to try) and was also quite impressed with its performance for a daily driver. The only thing that was a bit lacklustre in my opinion was that a fair number of the touch points felt cheap given the price. This doesn’t seem to be the case in the model that you drove, so to me, it would make sense to spend the extra 5-10,000 to get this car for its full potential. I can imagine the awd version is even better - it is also the version that I would go for given the harsh Canadian winters where I live.
As these technologies become less novel and economies of scale really kick in, the base rwd version will be the exact sort of vehicle that makes sense as a daily driver for almost anyone, it’s just not quite there at the current pricing. Although for more enthusiast drivers, I think the range topping models are about the right price and make a compelling option.
I haven't seen too many reviews on the RWD version. I live in SoCal so RWD is fine for me and I was wondering, would the over all driving dynamics be likely better in the RWD version (with stability and traction control off) like is often the case in ICE vehicles?
@@ericlecours4208 honestly I’d have to try them both, but I tested the rwd version on a dry day so it isn’t completely different than what you may experience in SoCal. I tried all combos of regenerative braking and stability and traction control on/off. To me it felt pretty well planted, but with stability and trac on, the systems were pretty overbearing (like Mark said in the review). It felt good, but with the rwd’s lesser power figures, I would say that it is more of a utilitarian style vehicle. In my opinion, you wouldn’t have as much fun hooning it around like you’d think of a rwd ICE car. For the rwd, think of it as much better Nissan Leaf, less a hot hatch. I think if you want to have a really fun time with the car AWD higher trims is likely the way to go. To me it’s less of a fun toy and more of a just super competent do-it-all kind of car.
@@skylerm6704 THat makes sense, thanks. Much more power for the AWD
@@ericlecours4208 The RWD will let you slide with everything off :)
@@WilliamLevesqueineX Great to know!!
The next gen stinger is going to be built on this platform. That could be a great car. Goodness of this without the frumptyness of the SUV form
nice review! It's been a while since I've seen something as thorough from you guys! Kinda of like a throwback to your older videos. Hope Jack is still in the decor!
Yeah I like that Hyundai has put so much effort into designing something more ground-up in the EV segment. It shows they they really are dedicated to this market, so good on them. I kinda like it. Can't say I love it, but it's very interesting and starts to answer some questions, but as every EV manufacturer who markets to North America, there are some serious concerns that aren't being addressed.
You said it yourself, this is a more-entry level EV, and we're in at $47,435 CAD for a base trim. These are big, heavy very costly battery packs packaged in a way to offer the least range-anxiety range as possible, and that comes with the cost and current availability. And I understand that. But EVs are not yet for the masses, and that's going to take some serious time.
And I guess that's my biggest issue here. With current battery tech's scope of constraints, I can't help but feel like PHEVs should have been pushed far harder than full EVs. We're destined to change our entire battery tech chemistry in the next decade and make lithium-ion irrelevant and outdated, but for now, that's all we have. The best environment friendly thing to do, if you want to reduce emissions as fast as possible is to make small batteries available (and attractive) to as many people as possible and enable a small full-electric range of 50-70km. The rest could be done on gas, until we build up a much better battery tech. That way, small batteries = smaller environmental footprint per vehicle, smaller replacement costs (and these things are pretty finite) and you literally eliminate tailpipe emissions from 100% of new vehicles for the first 50-70km, which represents, what, 90-95% of driven mileage? Also, the masses won't be so concerned with range anxiety if you also have your traditional fuel tank.
Yes, we do have some PHEVs out there, but again, cost. Our EV-only-by-2035 mandate should have been PHEV-only-by-2028. EVs can come in much later.
rant over. lol
This Ioniq5 is really nice, but I'm hoping to replace my current 2.0L 6-speed manual Mazda3 with an EV with the complexity of a 1996 Honda Civic DX. Don't need or want ANY tech at all; just a small battery + medium electric motor, modern passive crash safety and the lightest curb weight humanly possible. The rest can be old Honda switchgear and knobs, no screens, no funky sh*t. It's that kind of 'for-the-masses' EVs I'm looking forward to where they can really drop the price and drop the BS, as to include the widest range of audience.
ok, so now the rant's over. sorry about that.
One thing with the brakes. My buddy whos a mechanic replaced the factory brakepads on an old model S, the car had 270,000 miles and he replaced the brake pads out of principle, that they were 7 years old. They still had plenty of life in them. Provided you have room in the battery to accept the charge, the regen braking capabilities of full EV's is realistically enough to bring the vehicle to a dead stop in an emergency situation. The issue is that they are 100% software controlled brakes, and there's no physical component to regen braking. In the event of a software failure where it doesn't regen break, you have the mechanical disk brakes, but they are ultimately there for redundancy. Newer EV's that have more refined regen braking systems have very aggressive one pedal driving options, with all but emergency stops being handled by regen.