So many people hate on the V6 yet with a good catback exhaust system you’ll sound better than any EcoBoost + with a procharger you’ll smoke stock 5.0’s and still have money leftover all while paying lower insurance and getting better gas mileage. Ford quickly realized that the V6 has too much potential to outshine the other two engines which is why they killed it. Change my mind.
I had a white 2012 V6 Mustang Premium Pony Package It was a great car and loved it. I got a ton of compliments from both men and women. The 2011-2012 Pony Package V6 was a beautiful car. A few guys at work talked a lot of crap about my car, but I later figured out that it was all based on jealousy. They weren't actually jealous of my V6 Mustang. Not too many people would be. They were jealous because I bought a new car which looked like a beautiful sports car and every time they saw it, they were reminded of the fact that they weren't driving their own dream car. If I had bought a new Camry or Accord, nobody would've said a damn word. But, I would take a V6 or EcoBoost Mustang as daily driver, rather than a Camry or Accord, any day of the week.
@@Liam-ub5gj I don't own one but I've seen a few videos where an 6 speed manual ecoboost smoked an charger V6, so i'd assume i'd do even better if its the 10-speed automatic. the ecoboost is for sure faster than an sxt if both stock
the eco is faster and the driving of the EcoBoost is just better than the v6 due to the 10 spd transmission, I've driven both and the EcoBoost is a better drive but the v6 is good for sound and for going a precharge route. however big turbo ecoboosts are just as strong. all are good tbh, if the v6 was a bit faster i'd cop it.
I traded in a 2017 ecoboost for a 2018 GT and the difference in the monthly cost is definitely noticeable with the insurance and the gas. That's the cost of having a V8 with that nice exhaust sound and powerful engine.
@@justintylerm.3534 I have a 2015 v6 with 48k miles. Only problem I've had so far is the back up camera doesn't work half the time and sometimes the Bluetooth doesn't work right. Other than that its been running like a champ
Love that you mentioned the SVO several times Joe, as a owner of one I feel like they deserve more recognition...a car ahead and too advanced for its time. Would love for you to find someone who owns a SVO locally to you and do a review on one 🙂
I like how you explained the linear power delivery! I own a 2012 V6 drove a 2019 ecoboost while V6 was getting repairs and something was off about the acceleration but couldn't figure out what it was. I prefer the linear power delivery of V6
Also, a 2.3 sized engine is too small for a car that heavy. It's stupid, no matter how many turbos you stick on it. Anything less than 3.0 is wrong for the weight ratio of the car.
Got a 2017 V6, love it so much. It so much louder inside than the ecoboost. It’s been very reliable and fun! Test drove a ecoboost and did not like how I had to wait for the power delivery, V6 was instant on throttle response.
Just bought the 17 v6. Absolutely love it. Also, there are options out there that can give you the power of the coyote for less money than the coyote. One can also drop an eco boost v6 from the Ford sho.
If I were to get a v6 mustang, the first thing I'd do after I bought one is replacing that freaking display. I would gladly pay almost 2 grand just to get more practicality from it.
I had a 2015 ecoboost. It was a cool car and PP was well worth it . If you crave more power you can add a tune and some simple bolt ons and the engine will come alive. its a great platform . sound out the factory does leave a little more to be desired so I highly recommend an after market exhaust and down pipe if you want that
My 2015 V6 Mustang with the 051A package which gave you the fog lights, 18” five spoke wheels, color matched spoiler (or delete like I did), and power drivers seat. I also got the Auto Trans and it cost around $26k. I got mine for around $22k and ordered it from the factory. It was built on my birthday which is a great piece of provenance. The larger screen with Nav was NEVER an option on the V6 and neither was leather or the different trim on the dash. I’ve had the car 9 years and I put a Borla S-type cat back exhaust so she sounds amazing. Better than any Ecoboost. My car is a DIY P-51D Mustang Tribute car which has black Lemans stripes with white accent stripes which are an homage to the invasion stripes on Allies fighters during and after D-day June 6 1944. I use two USAAF roundels where 5.0 badges would be on the V8 and a custom tribute edition rear badge with a P-51d as well. She’s a beauty and still turns heads all these years later. 70k miles and I still smile every time I’m behind the wheel. So the V6 is just great to me!
i own a 2013 mustang v6 with manual and performance pack (significant upgrades over non). after putting a Borla stinger exhaust, CAI, Tune, i fell in love with my car. when 2015s came out and 2020s eco boost i test drove both and decided to stick with my 13. i honestly prefer the look/style/feel of the 13s albeit i admit there are other features its worse off in. that said nice video and good honest feed back. well done sir
Well I might be in the minority here but my v6 mustang is working like a charm boosted since it had only 10k miles and now it’s at 68k and still going strong it’s a fun car here’s a link to the dyno ruclips.net/video/7bwCnEUTUmg/видео.html
Raiti's Rides, I love your Mustang reviews! Keep em coming!! I had a V6, 2004 40th Anniversary Edition, owned for 10 years, now just went to dealer and put a deposit on a 2020 Ecoboost premium, 55 years badge on the interier! Your videos definitely helped me pick what exactly I wanted, as a daily driver.
I don't know about y'all but I prefer the faster car with better gas mileage and cheaper insurance on the ecoboost. And I couldn't care less about the exhaust sound.
Mopar Tom ya, a quick muffler delete and h-pipe would do the V6 justice. Can’t say the same about the 4 cylinder tho. Sounds like straight ass with a muffler delete. Trust me I know - had a 2016 ecoboost, then traded it in for a 2016 GT.
I agree. Next gens body are too rounded for my taste and they look like more japanese than american imo. I'd love to upgrade my 2010 v6 (it's a so sad motor...) but never beyond a 2014 model!
Love your videos Joe! I recently bought a 2019 Mustang ecoboost in Velocity Blue, and my wife and I love it! Thanks for all the great insight on these beautiful cars.
The 3.7L is a great engine for what you want in an entry level muscle/sports car, the reason ford went with the ecoboost is because they wanted to make the Mustang a global car and in a lot of counties they tax the displacement size of the engine. So to get around that Ford developed this turbo-4 to make them more competitive in the global market. Ford has 2 turbocharged V6's very similar in design to the 3.7L that they put in the F150 that both make a lot of power and I think would have been amazing in the Mustang platform but then that would have stepped on the toes of the 5.0. At the end of the day I would say if you want a car that your going to buy and keep for a few years and sell get the Ecoboost, you can put a few minor mods on it and be close to 400HP, which is really impressive for a 4 cylinder, do a down pipe, an intake and a tune have have some with it for a few years and put it back to stock and sell it before the motor blows. if your looking for a long term car, something that you want to get a lot of miles out of go for the 3.7L they've made that engine for a long time now and their fairly reliable, and hey if you want to mod it theirs still a great community and theirs a ton of stuff you can do to a 3.7L, a turbo or procharged on that V6 will have you spanking bolt on ecoboosts and slightly ahead of 5.0s, its not as easy to get more power out of then the 2.3L but I'd rather have the 3.7L long term.
The two cars have different purposes. The turbo 4 is designed to act like a V-8 with maxed out low end torque. The V-6 is more of a euro engine that has torque higher up in the rev range and likes to rev more with a great sound. And most importantly, NO turbo lag Also, the V-6 has the least weight over the front tires for better turn in. The wheels are a little smaller which means better handling on less than perfect roads. The larger sidewalls also transmit less road shock into the unibody for less metal fatigue over time (a problem with ford's). Finally the V-6 is the only engine that does not require high test. Also, insurance is slightly less with the V-6. With the right tires, it handles well in real world driving. It likes curves but is more of a grand tourer than the turbo. The V-6 is more about a real world car for curves. The turbo is all about 0-60. Woo hoo, I'm a big macho car guy because my car goes fast zero to -60. The V-6 is for mature drivers.
@Arkeves I test drove a turbo before I got the V-6. "Hardly any tubo lag" is correct. But "hardly any" means it has some. The v-6 has none, zero. That is my point. My point in the post above is the different engines create cars with different personalities. Each good in its own way. I happen to prefer the V-6 version.
@Arkeves agreed, getting tired of the horsepower wars going insane. Like you can use 700, or more horsepower in real life. In the words of shrek, "I think he is trying to compensate for something". I once saw a race between a miata vs. a Hellcat on a twisty race course. The Miata easily beat the hellcat. Power is not everything.
Yeah, the V6 is the way to go. I don't think the Ecoboost is tuned properly or something -- they just sound too wheezy. It is possible to make a 4 cylinder sound like magic but Ford hasn't figured it out yet. Maybe they should study the Fiat 500 Abarth -- while that car is stupid looking and slow, it has a great exhaust note.
I would rather get V6. Naturally aspirated engines gets up to the speed more smoothly, handles better with manual transmission. Does V6 Mustang run with 87 octane? Engine sound in the cabin also more pleasant from the video, too!
I love going back and watching your old videos along with the new ones. I just got a 19' GT/CS a couple weeks back and even watching your videos on the V6 and EB models is interesting. Keep it up man!
Fun fact the ecoboost needs premium to make that 10hp more than the 3.7 which makes its power on 87 octane. If you ran the ecoboost on 87 it would make less. If you ran premium on the 3.7 it would essentially be the same hp. Also gotta love that the ecoboost ran an identical 13.7 to the v6s that the v6 ran back in 2011.
@@mr.2cents.846 Well.. As a big fan of auto mafia racing (and having considered buying a v6 and put their turbo setup), I'm aware that those booted 3.7 can be quite a beast! ..but again..if you consider the REAL cost of parts and labor and all the miscellaneous for a turbo v6, MAYBE. A modded v8 is still a better bargain. I'm still wondering :p (But most likely, will buy a v8 :p)
I had a 15 EcoBoost once it came out. Great little engine and turbo is fun. Pros super comfortable and easy to daily. Very refined feeling. Cons I had major heat soak issues on any day past 80 85 and would make you really need to ring the car out for power in stop and go or highway traffic. Also the gas mileage from the 19 GT I have now and the eco are very similar unless you are on a perfect highway.
the hp on the v6 is actually higher hp with 93 and even with 91 oct gas... they power rated the v6 engines with 87 oct the v6 gets a hp rating of 312-17 with 91-94 oct and 292 tq
@@SuperpowerHome Yeah, tuning the 4 cylinder is a waste of time. Why would you void your warranty -- when you can get better performance WITH A warranty by simply buying the V8. Tuning the 4 banger is a penny wise, pound foolish decision.
You can get the V6, put a Roush CAI in it and it's just as powerful as the Ecoboost and sounds much better. That's what I did and people love it. Camaro owners, Challenger, Charger, and other Mustang owners all like the car.
I'm going with the V6 on this one Joe. That engine is tried and true. Invest in some bolt-ons with the money saved and you should be able to outperform a stock Ecoboost.
And invest in an IC and a good tune (non OTS - off the shelf/preloaded) and the EB will outperform a bolt on/ tune only v6. EB with IC plus tune = $1200 at most. The possibilities are endless. Dont get me wrong, I am NOT trying to bash the v6. Both EB and v6 can become little monsters with the right mods... Im at 86k mi in my '16 Eb so far.
@@M4B21S88 yeah that's why i said a stock Ecoboost. Part of the appeal is that you can get a V6 for well under $20k right now as oppose to a brand new EB like the one in the video. But tbh I like them both just prefer N/A. I drove a stock Ecoboost with the 10 speed it was real smooth handled great I even enjoyed the fake pumped in audio. 86k is amazing you def drive the thing lol do you have any other performance mods?
@@ElSikario100 I test drove both a v6 and EB. I first test drove the v6 and then EB, ended with with the EB. Love that low end torque. I bought CPO with only 10k. Ever since ive been pumping 93 octane only, added MBRP race catback, its actually pretty damn nice lol...I HATE, HATE , HATE hearing the EB with a high pitch sound...I will agree with anyone who says it sounds like shit..lol but the MBRP is actually a deep growl tone. Other than that, IC and K&N drop in filter. To me, the car is fast enough...in my 3.5 years of ownership I can count with 1 hand (maybe 2 hands lol) the times Ive taken her to 120 mph...lol And yes, I enjoy driving the hell out of it... Its only had to have the AC evap and purge valve replaced , which are pretty common Ford issues since the s197.
@@M4B21S88 that's dope! Made me look up some used S550 Mustangs. Early model EB Premium are such a steal right now but I gotta hold off for another year. I'm glad she's treating you well. The crazy thing is you can easily get 400hp with a dyno or street tune and be nabbing at the 5.0's heels if you ever wanted. The V6 would needs a few thousand dollars for a turbo kit but again they're so cheap at the moment it all comes down to preference really. I hope you get many more miles outta her; enjoy the ride!
He was slick with the crowd control joke 😂. I was impressed with the acceleration from the ecoboost when you were on the highway. I'm coming from a 2000 Camry with the 5SFE looking to get into an ecoboost convertible in manual. Joe, can you do a review on what living in Florida is like?
Great video! Stumbled upon this vid two years later lol. Wow, this guy is super knowledgeable. I really enjoyed this vid and all the information. So descriptive. Thank you.
I bought a new 2017 V6 Stang (base, lightning blue) for 20k all inclusive in mid-2018... Drove it for a few months + 6500 miles, cut the mufflers off & enjoyed the V6.. Best part - I sold it for the same amount.. Best deal I ever made!!!
Hey Joe, LOVED the video and comparison between the 4 and 6er. I drive the 2018 Eco boost and its great , just like the 2012 v 6 I owned previously. As you stated , its totally up to the individual on which one to own. I will vouch for both , and yes the V 8 is still the BIG Dog compared to the 4 and 6 cylinder. Keep up the great videos , and thank you for making this time we are in a little bit easier to deal with. Take care buddy and stay safe.
Keep in mind youre likely test driving EB's pumped with 87 octane by the dealer. The EB wakes up A LOT with 93 (edit: and likely with very low miles in them)..Honestly, I feel like these EB engines get faster with more miles in them. Anyway, Its rated numbers are achieved only with the higher octane. The higher octane helps a lot in reducing that "lag", personally, I dont feel any lag in my '16 EB from a stop , there IS a very slight delay from a "roll" ... once its in boost, thing FLIES.
I had a 2014 automatic transmission V6 mustang. I drove it up to Sequoia National Park and back down. The road to Sequoia has many many steep switch backs. The V6 handled it easily but my brakes took a beating.
It actually is and it's very much on the low end of what it's capable of safely handling. My 2018 has been 430hp stock block for 2 years straight 55k miles I drive it a lot
I'm 430hp on my ecoboost after bolt ons and tunes. Even added a gun shot map tune just to be a jerk sometimes 😂. But anyway, I smoke 95% of gt's I come across. Yes a modded gt will take me to gapple bees but they are not common!
Had an s550 V6 with 18” oem gloss painted rims and installed Borla SType exhaust it was acousticly loud. Was fun car, traded it for a GT while I have equity on it. Lesson learned, buy a V8 in the first place if your heart tell you to. Save up. If you cant afford a GT dont buy a Mustang alternative to begin with. Ford admits cyclone is a durable engine :). If you’re set for a V6 or i4 turbo and no ambition for a V8 then you are good too. Otherwise like most first time buyer who didnt buy a V8 will end up buying a V8 sooner or later.
2015 EcoBoost 21 tho miles performance package bama tune s@r cai garage line 3 inch dump pipe and a s@r muffler delete and she runs like the wind I love it..
EcoBoost feels way faster around town due to the torque that the low RPM turbo provides. Also the loud exhaust on the V6 makes you think it should be faster than it actually is lol
I watch this review prior to buying a 2017 V6 convertible. I based my decisions on reliability. There are no data on reliability on the EC. The eco-boost in 2022 still had oil leaking issues by the coolant area. The EC is a relatively new 4 cylinder engine generating 310 hp and 350 lb of torque. I would consider buying an EC provided that it’s been proven reliable. I’m hearing negative things on the EC truck engines.
one last thing to note I work out of town a lot and I am able to rent the 5.0 and the EcoBoost mustangs and I noticed that when I drive both cars hard the V8 actually gets overall better gas mileage than the EcoBoost does surprisingly. This is based on driving both cars around 4 times each for two day stints at a time. Just an fyi
Power to Weight ratio Can't beat the 5.0L capabilities. Maybe 2022 we'll see the 7.3L Mustang GT but, I suspect the 7.3L will, for sure, go in the F-150 & Raptor.
I love all mustangs eco v6 v8 no matter what size of engine. To me they are the best muscle car plus it never been discontinued ever unlike some dodge cars and the camaro
I personally would take the V6 over the eco boost while I like the idea of a turbocharged Mustang and sure it’s more turntable but you can put a blower on the V6 not to mention no matter what exhaust Ford OR what aftermarket exhaust you put on it it’s going to sound like rice. The V6 makes power all the way to redline the four banger is more midrange and tends to run out of steam as you approach redline. Ford detuned the newer V6 Mustangs they make five less horsepower and you could get all the handling goodies just like the V8 had. Give me a 2011 V6 Mustang with the handling package and a manual gearbox.
Love your videos! Especially the mustang reviews!! You and your wife do an amazing job! Am hoping you can do a 05-09 mustang GT. Especially if you can find one with aftermarket parts already on it!!
Joe this was a great review let me chime in on a few things. 1. The eco boost is faster. But in real world driving its more expensive to drive. V6 makes 305hp on 87 gas. The eco makes 310 with premium. That's an extra 30c a gallon every fill up. Something to really consider. Also the v6 can be made to sound really good. But not heard a good sounding eco yet. And the v6 can be made as fast as the stock eco pretty cheaply...
Plus a na engine will have a longer life than a turbo 4 cylinder like with the ecoboost. The ecoboosts start to have some issues around the 90k miles range.
Yes, youre right that the EB makes its rated HP only on 93 octane but, I mean, come on: Lets say you dont wait until youre empty on fuel. Both have about 15 gallons. My local fuel prices in central FL - pre covid: 87 octane: 2.50 x 14 gal = $35 93 octane: 2.90 x 14 gal = $40.6 Difference: $6 WEEKLY roughly. Driving habits / temperatures / distance will influence this. Now, unless youre extremely conservative with your hard earn coin/thrifty... I can make an argument of the JUNK ppl buy on a daily basis (coffee, energy drinks, snacks, gum, etc) that easily add up to $5 DAILY. Regardless, I have, via the forums, read from v6 owners claiming they get better performance out of using 91/93 over 87 octane. Vast majority of them cannot break sub 6 seconds on 87 octane. Of course, many things are to take into account..sure. I am just stating what OWNERS have experienced. Plus, a lot of them opt for a 91/93 tune, so then certainly the price in fuel is not a problem Both are great! but the truth is that the EB will gain the most power out of just $1200 (tune plus intercooler). Yes, the v6 can sound better with the right exhaust, for sure but, to be fair, the EB with the MBRP race sounds pretty damn decent for a 4 banger.
@@M4B21S88 yeah but if you do real world driving for most people you would probably fill up 3 times a week. Which is then 18 dollars a week $54 a month. Adds up fast. Not to mention the eco boom vs the tried and tested reliable 3.7. and also what you said about spending money on stupid other things. I agree with you. But in that case save your money and get a V8 right?
@@M4B21S88 however I do like the 4 banger. I'm just giving other perspective. Ford pretty much lied about v6 specs because they were phasing it out and had to make the v6 an option people don't want to pick. Example. 2011-2014 V6 made 305hp and actually made 310hp on 93 because of the change in advanced timing. So why in 2015 up do the v6 make 300hp with the same engine?? Or why did they make the v6 not have any leather options? It was just a marketing thing. Joe even realized that on video the v6 clearly looked faster
tlaw53montecarloss Like I said, I think both are great. I do know you can also get the v6 to put some power down with tune and gears particularly, IF im not mistaken lol 3.73s? I agree with the whole advertisement thing from Ford... I even tell some peeps that freak out that the v6 was “de-tuned” to make 300 instead of its 305 hp. Im like, its the same engine, it likely still makes 305 hp but they wanna make the EB look more “appealing” but, i mean, wth is 10 hp ultimately lol... My main argument was about the fuel prices... whether you buy a EB, V6, v8 and you drive it like its supposed to be driven, youre gonna spend more $ at the pump. I think if Ford would have done what chevy did with the camaro, that is, giving it 335 hp and 300 lb/ft of tq , id end up in the v6.. buuut then the v6 would be the mid level costing more coin, especially if you want more comfort features. I love my ‘16 EB, though. The turbo spooling is something you learn to love. Love that low end torque, and its very fast since i pump the good stuff. Im at 86k miles so far , crossing fingers itll go other 50k mi w/o major issues!
The issue is that you can't have two engine choices making the same amount of horse power. The v6 make 305hp and the eco only really make 5 more at 310hp. They would either have to gimp the ecoboost or increase the HP of the v6 which would bring it too close the horse range of the v8 option.
The stock wheels on the 2017 Mustang V-6 were 17" and called "Bright Silver." Someone plastic-dipped, painted, or powder coated those rims black. I powder-coated mine and they look a heck of lot better. I don't know why automobile manufactures feel the need to make the wheels on all base trim levels either chrome or silver. The color black is in style now and no more expensive to apply than the others.
I like the V6 sound better, but I love the Orange color more on the EcoBoost!! The EcoBoost doesn’t deserve all the hate it gets bc it’s not a slow engine. I think the reason it gets so much hate though is because the Mustang is a muscle car and a 2.3L turbo doesn’t scream muscle. Mainly bc it’s a smaller engine that isn’t too loud. It’s in no way a bad engine. It’s actually better than most of its competitors, it just doesn’t scream “muscle car” when you rev it hit the gas (make it high in the rpms/ make it loud) like the Mustangs of before. I really think muscle car purists just don’t like the smaller displacement and noise difference but the EcoBoost is faster, more powerful, and it gets better gas mileage, so I definitely understand why Ford made the change
I owned a 2015 V6 with Roush axle back exhaust. It was loud but not terribly fast. Now I have a 2020 Echoboost with JLT cold air intake and blow off valve, muffler delete. It rips loud and is faster. Both automatics. 6peed(v6) vs. 10speed echo, but the echo with that turbo sound is much more fun to drive 😊.
Man oh man. You have to see this video on the new 75 in Samsung qled. Between the orange and blue I’m stuck on it. I am so glad for this video. Simply great. My cousin has been an avid owner of the stang since 70 and I’m sending it to him because it’s awesome . Love the debate on the turbo 4 and V6. thank you Joe
Getting that much turbocharged power from an engine that small means you're putting lots of pressure on the engine which means more wear and more repairs down the line.
According to specs, they are both similar. I hope you drove the EB with 93 octane in the tank. Regardless, even if the awd (not lighter than the EB ,btw) 2.0t giulia was slightly faster, they are not even in the same category in style nor PRICE. Even a fully loaded EB would come up to 38k, a heavy loaded Giulia would be 56k, base price for each is 25k vs 45k respectively. Now if youre comparing the mustang HPP to a 2.0t giulia , id say EB HPP is faster but still cheaper.
Back in the 60s and early 70s, the cost to upgrade to a v8 from v6 wasn't nearly as much as it is compared to today. The majority of v8's weren't even a GT. An actual GT in first gen mustangs were quite rare. But now the base v8 is offered as the GT. Ford has priced many consumers out from being able to afford a v8. I've got a 71 with a 351 cleveland, yes its a fun car to drive as weekend hobby car but a ecoboost 4 banger will smoke it. Cars today are just made so much better. It's too bad Ford couldn't keep the costs closer together. I've got no shame driving a 4 banger. It beats the hell out of the 5.0s I wanted in high school I could never afford. I'm too old to be racing around the lake anyways these days in a 400+hp v8.
It is a 4 cylinder car which WILL start using oil before it has 50000 miles. Ford has don this crap with every generation of Mustang. Then they put the 6 cylinders back in the car. 4 cylinder cars are only bought by people who doesn’t understand how motors work.
Not a fan of the remodeled front end on the eco-boost, it has odd angles that just seem to sharp for the rest of the car. Plus the 3.7L Cyclone is an amazing engine. The V6 should be remembered and maybe brought back.
You are SO wrong regarding the back up camera. The big screen uses the same camera with the same resolution. So the bigger back up camera is blurry. At least the small picture is clear. I wanted the bigger picture until I compared. Also with the smaller screen you have buttons that do not require rifling through screens. The buttons are much more driver oriented.
So many people hate on the V6 yet with a good catback exhaust system you’ll sound better than any EcoBoost + with a procharger you’ll smoke stock 5.0’s and still have money leftover all while paying lower insurance and getting better gas mileage. Ford quickly realized that the V6 has too much potential to outshine the other two engines which is why they killed it. Change my mind.
I thought about get a V6 and get procharger or turbo
If you are going to spend 6k on a pro-charger...plus another 4-5k on tunes and other necessary upgrades, you may as well just get the GT.
No lol just no
@@mikemclean6242 exactly you can make the Ecoboost as fast as a 5.0 for about 2 Grand
If you floor a turbo 6 you get similar if not the same gas mileage as a N/a V8 , stop with that narrative
I had a white 2012 V6 Mustang Premium Pony Package It was a great car and loved it. I got a ton of compliments from both men and women. The 2011-2012 Pony Package V6 was a beautiful car.
A few guys at work talked a lot of crap about my car, but I later figured out that it was all based on jealousy. They weren't actually jealous of my V6 Mustang. Not too many people would be. They were jealous because I bought a new car which looked like a beautiful sports car and every time they saw it, they were reminded of the fact that they weren't driving their own dream car.
If I had bought a new Camry or Accord, nobody would've said a damn word. But, I would take a V6 or EcoBoost Mustang as daily driver, rather than a Camry or Accord, any day of the week.
The Ecoboost makes power easily with bolt on and tune... but the v6 is a lot of car for the money, a great value
Deadass can it smoke a sxt ? I’m not heavy car head that knows about this type of stuff
@@Liam-ub5gj I don't own one but I've seen a few videos where an 6 speed manual ecoboost smoked an charger V6, so i'd assume i'd do even better if its the 10-speed automatic. the ecoboost is for sure faster than an sxt if both stock
@@Liam-ub5gj yes easily gaps it. It competes more with the rt bro
@@cristianmunoz4614 Ecoboost stang is very close to rt challenger honestly stang Is a little faster than it
@@Liam-ub5gj why you racing sxt' those are just regular people cars?
He’s clearly biased to the Ecoboost. I wouldn’t buy either but I’d definitely pick the V6 over a turbocharged 4 cylinder Mustang.
280lbft torque vs 350 come on
@@intra-th6rmcook him
the eco is faster and the driving of the EcoBoost is just better than the v6 due to the 10 spd transmission, I've driven both and the EcoBoost is a better drive but the v6 is good for sound and for going a precharge route. however big turbo ecoboosts are just as strong. all are good tbh, if the v6 was a bit faster i'd cop it.
Driving 2019 Eco A10 for over 4 years now. The 350 lb-ft of torque is the real deal. I've driven GTs. The Eco is a way more balanced handling car.
I traded in a 2017 ecoboost for a 2018 GT and the difference in the monthly cost is definitely noticeable with the insurance and the gas. That's the cost of having a V8 with that nice exhaust sound and powerful engine.
This man really is the G.O.A.T of car reviews.
I thought it was Doug demuro
I love my 2015 V6. I’ve driven Route 66, the Dragon, Devil’s Triangle and more and it’s been a blast.
If you drive it down the devils highway it will turn into a 2020 GT500
I own a 2016 v6 mustang, any issues with yours at all? Mileage?
@@justintylerm.3534 I have a 2015 v6 with 48k miles. Only problem I've had so far is the back up camera doesn't work half the time and sometimes the Bluetooth doesn't work right. Other than that its been running like a champ
@@seth_owens sweet! Yeah I’ve got about 48k on mine and the only issue I had was the water pump went out. Luckily it was under warranty!
@@justintylerm.3534 I have one 2016 with 56k had both of issues y’all had. Nothing else so far tho.
I can’t believe they sent the salesman with you!
I agree with you. I test drove a 2018 Dodge Challenger Scat Pack yesterday. The sales lady let me take it home to show my wife.
@@AStanton1966 ahah they let me drive a srt Cherokee like an hour away from town and back and literally were so chill when I got back
Suazzz Seriously, especially when he has ordered a Heritage Edition GT350R from them!
I was wondering why that idiot was just sitting back there! 😂
Love that you mentioned the SVO several times Joe, as a owner of one I feel like they deserve more recognition...a car ahead and too advanced for its time. Would love for you to find someone who owns a SVO locally to you and do a review on one 🙂
I totally agree with you! If I can find one I will jump on it. Thanks for watching!
I like how you explained the linear power delivery! I own a 2012 V6 drove a 2019 ecoboost while V6 was getting repairs and something was off about the acceleration but couldn't figure out what it was. I prefer the linear power delivery of V6
Thanks for taking the time to say that and for your support!
Turbo Lag
Also, a 2.3 sized engine is too small for a car that heavy. It's stupid, no matter how many turbos you stick on it. Anything less than 3.0 is wrong for the weight ratio of the car.
Another 2012 v6 in the house. I love my car so much. Just hit 20k miles the other day. I was the first owner. Beautiful sound, great car.
That orange color on the Mustang though shines in the sun!!!
It really does pop!
@@RaitisRides Indeed!
Yup
Got a 2017 V6, love it so much. It so much louder inside than the ecoboost. It’s been very reliable and fun! Test drove a ecoboost and did not like how I had to wait for the power delivery, V6 was instant on throttle response.
Exactly!
Thanks for sharing your input from your ownership!
AGREED!
Which one can you upgrade more v6 or ecoboost. Sound and power wise?
Ecoboost is instant on throttle response once sport mode is engaged & wait til that turbo kicks in
Hey you know that I'm here to hear your opinion. Mustang reviews are always appreciated. My first Mustang was a manual V6.
Thanks Lynda! I appreciate that!
Just got my first mustang and it's a v6 RS 2017
Just bought the 17 v6. Absolutely love it. Also, there are options out there that can give you the power of the coyote for less money than the coyote. One can also drop an eco boost v6 from the Ford sho.
Hell yeah! I'm out here waving the V6 flag on my channel!
Always love your content Raiti
Thanks man! I am so glad that I could bring it to you!
Gay
If I were to get a v6 mustang, the first thing I'd do after I bought one is replacing that freaking display. I would gladly pay almost 2 grand just to get more practicality from it.
Ehhh its got what you need. I have a V6, it’s got Bluetooth and a back up camera, all you really need. Don’t even need those
Jared bigger screen would definitely be better though.
TONYC_0913 _ ofcourse, I’ve contemplated buying the 8inch sync 3 but for $2k I’m happy with my Bluetooth and back up camera 😂
Jared ya same 😂😂
There’s a OEM upgrade that puts the premium screen into your mustang for $800. So don’t need 2 grand, go on Americanmuscle.com
Yes have a V6 but also allow it to have the premium trim with the leather and usable touch screen infotainment screen instead of the baby screen.
True! It would have been an easy choice then.
They don't come with that option.
@@mytesticles5422 aftermarket lol
I had a 2015 ecoboost. It was a cool car and PP was well worth it . If you crave more power you can add a tune and some simple bolt ons and the engine will come alive. its a great platform . sound out the factory does leave a little more to be desired so I highly recommend an after market exhaust and down pipe if you want that
2.3 ecoboost is junk. I work for ford and these engines blow up with minor increases in power. 3.7 is a true 200K engine.
I'm not a fan of the new Mustang front fascia so I'm going with the V6.
I can totally understand that!
The hood looks way better
The Ecoboost looks awesome but man that colour on the V6 is gorgeous.
You like the blue?
@@adudewith27subs65 yup
@5pointgo beautiful
My 2015 V6 Mustang with the 051A package which gave you the fog lights, 18” five spoke wheels, color matched spoiler (or delete like I did), and power drivers seat. I also got the Auto Trans and it cost around $26k. I got mine for around $22k and ordered it from the factory. It was built on my birthday which is a great piece of provenance. The larger screen with Nav was NEVER an option on the V6 and neither was leather or the different trim on the dash. I’ve had the car 9 years and I put a Borla S-type cat back exhaust so she sounds amazing. Better than any Ecoboost. My car is a DIY P-51D Mustang Tribute car which has black Lemans stripes with white accent stripes which are an homage to the invasion stripes on Allies fighters during and after D-day June 6 1944. I use two USAAF roundels where 5.0 badges would be on the V8 and a custom tribute edition rear badge with a P-51d as well. She’s a beauty and still turns heads all these years later. 70k miles and I still smile every time I’m behind the wheel. So the V6 is just great to me!
i own a 2013 mustang v6 with manual and performance pack (significant upgrades over non). after putting a Borla stinger exhaust, CAI, Tune, i fell in love with my car. when 2015s came out and 2020s eco boost i test drove both and decided to stick with my 13. i honestly prefer the look/style/feel of the 13s albeit i admit there are other features its worse off in.
that said nice video and good honest feed back. well done sir
Well I might be in the minority here but my v6 mustang is working like a charm boosted since it had only 10k miles and now it’s at 68k and still going strong it’s a fun car here’s a link to the dyno ruclips.net/video/7bwCnEUTUmg/видео.html
What's the Dyno specs?
Flat mine makes 350 hp
@@SuperpowerHome 40 bump in hp, that's nice. You did the work yourself?
Flat yes sir, full exhaust, intake, and tune. Plan to boost it after college.
@@SuperpowerHome 350 at the wheel or crank?
Raiti's Rides, I love your Mustang reviews! Keep em coming!! I had a V6, 2004 40th Anniversary Edition, owned for 10 years, now just went to dealer and put a deposit on a 2020 Ecoboost premium, 55 years badge on the interier! Your videos definitely helped me pick what exactly I wanted, as a daily driver.
That is so awesome Thomas! You got it man!
That's awesome. How much you had to put down if you don't mind me asking?
Sorry it's not the power it's the sound. Especially with an exhaust. The V6 just sounds better.
I love my 2019 ecoboost, it is a very good balanced car that can take turn really good
I'm re-watching. This video neve gets old. I absolutely LOVE your Mustang videos. I still have my 2017 EcoBoost premium and love driving it.
That is so wonderful Lynda!
I don't know about y'all but I prefer the faster car with better gas mileage and cheaper insurance on the ecoboost. And I couldn't care less about the exhaust sound.
Facts
That 2017 front bumper looks so much better
I’m not a huge fan of the EcoBoost Mustang. At least the V6 sounded great with a good exhaust
I hate the sound of the ecoboost!! I've seen them upgraded n modded and they still sound like shit
If I were to choose one of the Mustangs, it would be the Orange one. Although I prefer to have it as a V6 engine. I love hearing loud engine roars.
That is a good point but the V6 doesn't really have a roar.
@@RaitisRides Ik, but it is a little louder than the 4-Cylinder engines.
Mopar Tom ya, a quick muffler delete and h-pipe would do the V6 justice. Can’t say the same about the 4 cylinder tho. Sounds like straight ass with a muffler delete. Trust me I know - had a 2016 ecoboost, then traded it in for a 2016 GT.
On the contrary, I would prefer the blue with the I4's interior and capabilities.
lol...loud engine roar with a V6? now that's funny...go 5.0 or go home
I’ll stick with my 2014 3.7, love the style of the S197. 2013-2014 best looking mustang in my opinion.
I agree. Next gens body are too rounded for my taste and they look like more japanese than american imo. I'd love to upgrade my 2010 v6 (it's a so sad motor...) but never beyond a 2014 model!
I wish I could have the 2004 mustang bodystyle with the new car performance and interior
Yes I agree best looking mustang 👌👍
I do love the 13-14s styling but damn the inside cab is so hideous and out dated, Hard plastics everywhere.. look very cheap.
Michael Phillips ya true that
Love your videos Joe! I recently bought a 2019 Mustang ecoboost in Velocity Blue, and my wife and I love it! Thanks for all the great insight on these beautiful cars.
Have a 2019 eco boost and love it! Installed
a Roush Cat-Back exhaust and it sounds pretty great for a 4 banger.
The V6 hands down over the 4-cylinder Turbo Ford should bring back the V6 in the Mustang
The 3.7L is a great engine for what you want in an entry level muscle/sports car, the reason ford went with the ecoboost is because they wanted to make the Mustang a global car and in a lot of counties they tax the displacement size of the engine. So to get around that Ford developed this turbo-4 to make them more competitive in the global market. Ford has 2 turbocharged V6's very similar in design to the 3.7L that they put in the F150 that both make a lot of power and I think would have been amazing in the Mustang platform but then that would have stepped on the toes of the 5.0. At the end of the day I would say if you want a car that your going to buy and keep for a few years and sell get the Ecoboost, you can put a few minor mods on it and be close to 400HP, which is really impressive for a 4 cylinder, do a down pipe, an intake and a tune have have some with it for a few years and put it back to stock and sell it before the motor blows. if your looking for a long term car, something that you want to get a lot of miles out of go for the 3.7L they've made that engine for a long time now and their fairly reliable, and hey if you want to mod it theirs still a great community and theirs a ton of stuff you can do to a 3.7L, a turbo or procharged on that V6 will have you spanking bolt on ecoboosts and slightly ahead of 5.0s, its not as easy to get more power out of then the 2.3L but I'd rather have the 3.7L long term.
I always thought v6’s are more reliable.
What's crazy is the eco boost is faster then the V6 with a smaller engine. But you add a turbo charger to the V6 and game over. lol
The two cars have different purposes. The turbo 4 is designed to act like a V-8 with maxed out low end torque. The V-6 is more of a euro engine that has torque higher up in the rev range and likes to rev more with a great sound. And most importantly, NO turbo lag Also, the V-6 has the least weight over the front tires for better turn in. The wheels are a little smaller which means better handling on less than perfect roads. The larger sidewalls also transmit less road shock into the unibody for less metal fatigue over time (a problem with ford's). Finally the V-6 is the only engine that does not require high test. Also, insurance is slightly less with the V-6. With the right tires, it handles well in real world driving. It likes curves but is more of a grand tourer than the turbo. The V-6 is more about a real world car for curves. The turbo is all about 0-60. Woo hoo, I'm a big macho car guy because my car goes fast zero to -60. The V-6 is for mature drivers.
@Arkeves I test drove a turbo before I got the V-6. "Hardly any tubo lag" is correct. But "hardly any" means it has some. The v-6 has none, zero. That is my point. My point in the post above is the different engines create cars with different personalities. Each good in its own way. I happen to prefer the V-6 version.
@Arkeves agreed, getting tired of the horsepower wars going insane. Like you can use 700, or more horsepower in real life. In the words of shrek, "I think he is trying to compensate for something". I once saw a race between a miata vs. a Hellcat on a twisty race course. The Miata easily beat the hellcat. Power is not everything.
Yeah, the V6 is the way to go. I don't think the Ecoboost is tuned properly or something -- they just sound too wheezy. It is possible to make a 4 cylinder sound like magic but Ford hasn't figured it out yet. Maybe they should study the Fiat 500 Abarth -- while that car is stupid looking and slow, it has a great exhaust note.
Thanks for sharing that input and perspective!
Also have fake sounds through the speakers.
😆I like this guy. The way he references storage space as food compartments. Dude has gotta be a foodie guy as well.
I would rather get V6. Naturally aspirated engines gets up to the speed more smoothly, handles better with manual transmission. Does V6 Mustang run with 87 octane? Engine sound in the cabin also more pleasant from the video, too!
Sounds like a plan!
I love going back and watching your old videos along with the new ones. I just got a 19' GT/CS a couple weeks back and even watching your videos on the V6 and EB models is interesting. Keep it up man!
Fun fact the ecoboost needs premium to make that 10hp more than the 3.7 which makes its power on 87 octane. If you ran the ecoboost on 87 it would make less. If you ran premium on the 3.7 it would essentially be the same hp. Also gotta love that the ecoboost ran an identical 13.7 to the v6s that the v6 ran back in 2011.
You can run premium on the v6 which ups the horsepower. It has a cpu that can detect and adjust to fuel changes.
@@adrien2323 True. Granted it's technically mentioned as 7hp. I dont think it's that big of a difference.
I'd take the 2017 just for the V6 sound. And you put a turbo on it than you can send the 4 banger back to kindergarten.
Mr. 2cents. The V6 has an aggressive sound with the roush exhaust. V8 is king. V6 is the prince.
Tell again how much the turbo parts and labor will cost you+ the car price tolal.
@@RimshotsandNamaste I believe it would be worth it.
@@mr.2cents.846 Well.. As a big fan of auto mafia racing (and having considered buying a v6 and put their turbo setup), I'm aware that those booted 3.7 can be quite a beast!
..but again..if you consider the REAL cost of parts and labor and all the miscellaneous for a turbo v6, MAYBE. A modded v8 is still a better bargain.
I'm still wondering :p
(But most likely, will buy a v8 :p)
price is around 3k for used kit 5k for a new turbo kit, and I'm a mechanic I don't pay labor, however I would pay 200 to 500 for tune.
Sweet. But I don’t like the 4 cylinder. No soul. When I drove it I didn’t feel like I was in a Mustang. Sound! Sound! Sound!
You think the V6 has soul?
Raiti's Rides for me a Mustang needs an 8 cylinder. But at least a 6 cylinder can make a reasonable sound.
What? Nothing about how they handle? That is a key factor in a sports car!!
I had a 15 EcoBoost once it came out. Great little engine and turbo is fun. Pros super comfortable and easy to daily. Very refined feeling. Cons I had major heat soak issues on any day past 80 85 and would make you really need to ring the car out for power in stop and go or highway traffic. Also the gas mileage from the 19 GT I have now and the eco are very similar unless you are on a perfect highway.
the hp on the v6 is actually higher hp with 93 and even with 91 oct gas... they power rated the v6 engines with 87 oct the v6 gets a hp rating of 312-17 with 91-94 oct and 292 tq
I dunno man. Isn't the Ecoboost much more tunable?
Sure is!
There the same MPT, AMR, and Ortiz Performance tunes the v6 platform.
David Build Vlogzz
Hes saying because of the turbo. More tuning potential without mods or even with mods
80's Boombox Collector definitely will get more horsepower than tuning a v6, but over 400hp you’re playing with the engines life in the 4 cylinder.
@@SuperpowerHome Yeah, tuning the 4 cylinder is a waste of time. Why would you void your warranty -- when you can get better performance WITH A warranty by simply buying the V8. Tuning the 4 banger is a penny wise, pound foolish decision.
I think it would be fair to compare both in the base trim, since V6 did not have a "Premium" trim.
You get so much more power out of a tune on an Ecoboost than you do on a V6. Too bad Ford didn't do a twin turbo V6 for these cars...
The twin-turbo 6 would be faster than the GT.
Check out the fusion sport. Twin turbo v6
"dropping gears" tt3.7 s550 made over 600 rwhp . 700 crank on a stock sealed engine, just imagine if a 3.7 engine was properly built for boost.
@@RaitisRides lol I agree. He shouldn’t even mention to that.
You can get the V6, put a Roush CAI in it and it's just as powerful as the Ecoboost and sounds much better. That's what I did and people love it. Camaro owners, Challenger, Charger, and other Mustang owners all like the car.
Um can you review the 2020 Toyota tacoma trd pro plz
I will track one down for you Jamel!
Thanks
Bro Toyota don't change. Just look at the 2019 lol
@@jameshan9424 that is looks tho
I'm going with the V6 on this one Joe. That engine is tried and true. Invest in some bolt-ons with the money saved and you should be able to outperform a stock Ecoboost.
And invest in an IC and a good tune (non OTS - off the shelf/preloaded) and the EB will outperform a bolt on/ tune only v6. EB with IC plus tune = $1200 at most. The possibilities are endless.
Dont get me wrong, I am NOT trying to bash the v6. Both EB and v6 can become little monsters with the right mods...
Im at 86k mi in my '16 Eb so far.
@@M4B21S88 yeah that's why i said a stock Ecoboost. Part of the appeal is that you can get a V6 for well under $20k right now as oppose to a brand new EB like the one in the video. But tbh I like them both just prefer N/A. I drove a stock Ecoboost with the 10 speed it was real smooth handled great I even enjoyed the fake pumped in audio. 86k is amazing you def drive the thing lol do you have any other performance mods?
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this one.
@@ElSikario100 I test drove both a v6 and EB. I first test drove the v6 and then EB, ended with with the EB. Love that low end torque. I bought CPO with only 10k. Ever since ive been pumping 93 octane only, added MBRP race catback, its actually pretty damn nice lol...I HATE, HATE , HATE hearing the EB with a high pitch sound...I will agree with anyone who says it sounds like shit..lol but the MBRP is actually a deep growl tone.
Other than that, IC and K&N drop in filter. To me, the car is fast enough...in my 3.5 years of ownership I can count with 1 hand (maybe 2 hands lol) the times Ive taken her to 120 mph...lol
And yes, I enjoy driving the hell out of it... Its only had to have the AC evap and purge valve replaced , which are pretty common Ford issues since the s197.
@@M4B21S88 that's dope! Made me look up some used S550 Mustangs. Early model EB Premium are such a steal right now but I gotta hold off for another year. I'm glad she's treating you well. The crazy thing is you can easily get 400hp with a dyno or street tune and be nabbing at the 5.0's heels if you ever wanted. The V6 would needs a few thousand dollars for a turbo kit but again they're so cheap at the moment it all comes down to preference really. I hope you get many more miles outta her; enjoy the ride!
He was slick with the crowd control joke 😂. I was impressed with the acceleration from the ecoboost when you were on the highway. I'm coming from a 2000 Camry with the 5SFE looking to get into an ecoboost convertible in manual. Joe, can you do a review on what living in Florida is like?
Great video! Stumbled upon this vid two years later lol. Wow, this guy is super knowledgeable. I really enjoyed this vid and all the information. So descriptive. Thank you.
I bought a new 2017 V6 Stang (base, lightning blue) for 20k all inclusive in mid-2018... Drove it for a few months + 6500 miles, cut the mufflers off & enjoyed the V6..
Best part - I sold it for the same amount.. Best deal I ever made!!!
Now we are talking!
Definitely the ecoboost, i like the aggressive look as well
I am so glad that you like this one.
Secured the 2020 ecoboost premium and I’m in love
Hey Joe, LOVED the video and comparison between the 4 and 6er. I drive the 2018 Eco boost and its great , just like the 2012 v 6 I owned previously. As you stated , its totally up to the individual on which one to own. I will vouch for both , and yes the V 8 is still the BIG Dog compared to the 4 and 6 cylinder. Keep up the great videos , and thank you for making this time we are in a little bit easier to deal with. Take care buddy and stay safe.
Keep in mind youre likely test driving EB's pumped with 87 octane by the dealer. The EB wakes up A LOT with 93 (edit: and likely with very low miles in them)..Honestly, I feel like these EB engines get faster with more miles in them. Anyway, Its rated numbers are achieved only with the higher octane. The higher octane helps a lot in reducing that "lag", personally, I dont feel any lag in my '16 EB from a stop , there IS a very slight delay from a "roll" ... once its in boost, thing FLIES.
Thanks for that great input!
I had a 2014 automatic transmission V6 mustang. I drove it up to Sequoia National Park and back down. The road to Sequoia has many many steep switch backs. The V6 handled it easily but my brakes took a beating.
All that power in 4cyl is not healthy. V6 or v8 is going to last a lot longer.
It actually is and it's very much on the low end of what it's capable of safely handling. My 2018 has been 430hp stock block for 2 years straight 55k miles I drive it a lot
Same here I’m @390 hp drives great no problems
Yep it's working hard to make that power I agree with you and to throw more boost at it you're just asking for trouble
I love my 2019 Ecoboost with the performance package.
No you don't
I loved my 15 ecoboost as well but try and drive a gt. Then itll change your mind !
I'm 430hp on my ecoboost after bolt ons and tunes. Even added a gun shot map tune just to be a jerk sometimes 😂. But anyway, I smoke 95% of gt's I come across. Yes a modded gt will take me to gapple bees but they are not common!
@@Gnarlycaveman yea it’ll change your mind after you see how much insurance, MPG, and maintenance is for a GT
When the bank owns your GT 😅
Had an s550 V6 with 18” oem gloss painted rims and installed Borla SType exhaust it was acousticly loud. Was fun car, traded it for a GT while I have equity on it. Lesson learned, buy a V8 in the first place if your heart tell you to. Save up. If you cant afford a GT dont buy a Mustang alternative to begin with.
Ford admits cyclone is a durable engine :).
If you’re set for a V6 or i4 turbo and no ambition for a V8 then you are good too. Otherwise like most first time buyer who didnt buy a V8 will end up buying a V8 sooner or later.
Plan on buying a v8 when the s650 comes out . I have a 2015 v6 rn and I’m only 20 didn’t have the money and it’s my daily 🤷🏾♂️
Chazzo nice.. s650 GT should be good on its second or third yr to be safe from major issues.
I have an eco and an 06 gto. Strange pair I know 😂
I bought the ecoboost and I love it. But now that the honeymoon is over I wish I got the GT.
12:31 joe always makes me laugh 😂
Thanks for letting me share the laughs with you!
The first turbo 4-cyl Mustang was 1979. I owned a turbo Mercury Capri, but I shopped the Mustang as well.
Man watching your channel and your unique reviews on the gt mustang's is why I just bought my first 2020 v8 mustang r-spec in Australia.
2015 EcoBoost 21 tho miles performance package bama tune s@r cai garage line 3 inch dump pipe and a s@r muffler delete and she runs like the wind I love it..
I love my 2.0 turbo Camaro, but these new refreshed Mustangs are almost enough to make me reconsider lol.
I went from a 2.0 Camaro to a 10 speed EcoBoost
Ive always wondered why they restyle the headlights. IMO 15 to 17 headlights are much better looking than the newer design.
That is a great question!
Joe you grind buddy. Thanks for putting out these videos. Gives me something to do after work.
I love that orange!!!
It really does pop in the Florida sun!
Ford should bring back Competition Orange
the V6 sounded great with longer gears and "felt" faster on video. both are nice.
EcoBoost feels way faster around town due to the torque that the low RPM turbo provides. Also the loud exhaust on the V6 makes you think it should be faster than it actually is lol
I watch this review prior to buying a 2017 V6 convertible. I based my decisions on reliability. There are no data on reliability on the EC. The eco-boost in 2022 still had oil leaking issues by the coolant area. The EC is a relatively new 4 cylinder engine generating 310 hp and 350 lb of torque. I would consider buying an EC provided that it’s been proven reliable. I’m hearing negative things on the EC truck engines.
one last thing to note I work out of town a lot and I am able to rent the 5.0 and the EcoBoost mustangs and I noticed that when I drive both cars hard the V8 actually gets overall better gas mileage than the EcoBoost does surprisingly. This is based on driving both cars around 4 times each for two day stints at a time. Just an fyi
Power to Weight ratio
Can't beat the 5.0L capabilities.
Maybe 2022 we'll see the 7.3L Mustang GT but, I suspect the 7.3L will, for sure, go in the F-150 & Raptor.
Its because the EcoBoost needs to be pushed.
I love all mustangs eco v6 v8 no matter what size of engine. To me they are the best muscle car plus it never been discontinued ever unlike some dodge cars and the camaro
would be interesting to see the 6cyl turbocharged...
Jonathan Lindhome they’ve done it, look up auto mafia racing, I think there’s does the quarter in under 10 seconds.
auto mafia racing channel have 3.7 got 9 sec on quarter mile
SS CygnusX ya, crazy fast.
I personally would take the V6 over the eco boost while I like the idea of a turbocharged Mustang and sure it’s more turntable but you can put a blower on the V6 not to mention no matter what exhaust Ford OR what aftermarket exhaust you put on it it’s going to sound like rice. The V6 makes power all the way to redline the four banger is more midrange and tends to run out of steam as you approach redline.
Ford detuned the newer V6 Mustangs they make five less horsepower and you could get all the handling goodies just like the V8 had.
Give me a 2011 V6 Mustang with the handling package and a manual gearbox.
2011-2014 V6s are no joke. I know a guy with an intake, exhaust, and 93 tune, and he beat my 4.6 3V, and my buddies stock Taurus SHO.
Love your videos! Especially the mustang reviews!! You and your wife do an amazing job! Am hoping you can do a 05-09 mustang GT. Especially if you can find one with aftermarket parts already on it!!
Joe this was a great review let me chime in on a few things. 1. The eco boost is faster. But in real world driving its more expensive to drive. V6 makes 305hp on 87 gas. The eco makes 310 with premium. That's an extra 30c a gallon every fill up. Something to really consider. Also the v6 can be made to sound really good. But not heard a good sounding eco yet. And the v6 can be made as fast as the stock eco pretty cheaply...
Plus a na engine will have a longer life than a turbo 4 cylinder like with the ecoboost. The ecoboosts start to have some issues around the 90k miles range.
Yes, youre right that the EB makes its rated HP only on 93 octane but, I mean, come on:
Lets say you dont wait until youre empty on fuel. Both have about 15 gallons. My local fuel prices in central FL - pre covid:
87 octane: 2.50 x 14 gal = $35
93 octane: 2.90 x 14 gal = $40.6
Difference: $6 WEEKLY roughly. Driving habits / temperatures / distance will influence this.
Now, unless youre extremely conservative with your hard earn coin/thrifty... I can make an argument of the JUNK ppl buy on a daily basis (coffee, energy drinks, snacks, gum, etc) that easily add up to $5 DAILY.
Regardless, I have, via the forums, read from v6 owners claiming they get better performance out of using 91/93 over 87 octane.
Vast majority of them cannot break sub 6 seconds on 87 octane. Of course, many things are to take into account..sure. I am just stating what OWNERS have experienced. Plus, a lot of them opt for a 91/93 tune, so then certainly the price in fuel is not a problem
Both are great! but the truth is that the EB will gain the most power out of just $1200 (tune plus intercooler). Yes, the v6 can sound better with the right exhaust, for sure but, to be fair, the EB with the MBRP race sounds pretty damn decent for a 4 banger.
@@M4B21S88 yeah but if you do real world driving for most people you would probably fill up 3 times a week. Which is then 18 dollars a week $54 a month. Adds up fast. Not to mention the eco boom vs the tried and tested reliable 3.7. and also what you said about spending money on stupid other things. I agree with you. But in that case save your money and get a V8 right?
@@M4B21S88 however I do like the 4 banger. I'm just giving other perspective. Ford pretty much lied about v6 specs because they were phasing it out and had to make the v6 an option people don't want to pick. Example. 2011-2014 V6 made 305hp and actually made 310hp on 93 because of the change in advanced timing. So why in 2015 up do the v6 make 300hp with the same engine?? Or why did they make the v6 not have any leather options? It was just a marketing thing. Joe even realized that on video the v6 clearly looked faster
tlaw53montecarloss Like I said, I think both are great. I do know you can also get the v6 to put some power down with tune and gears particularly, IF im not mistaken lol 3.73s?
I agree with the whole advertisement thing from Ford... I even tell some peeps that freak out that the v6 was “de-tuned” to make 300 instead of its 305 hp. Im like, its the same engine, it likely still makes 305 hp but they wanna make the EB look more “appealing” but, i mean, wth is 10 hp ultimately lol...
My main argument was about the fuel prices... whether you buy a EB, V6, v8 and you drive it like its supposed to be driven, youre gonna spend more $ at the pump.
I think if Ford would have done what chevy did with the camaro, that is, giving it 335 hp and 300 lb/ft of tq , id end up in the v6.. buuut then the v6 would be the mid level costing more coin, especially if you want more comfort features.
I love my ‘16 EB, though. The turbo spooling is something you learn to love. Love that low end torque, and its very fast since i pump the good stuff. Im at 86k miles so far , crossing fingers itll go other 50k mi w/o major issues!
The eco boost should have the base and the v6 should have the next step up. The eco boost sounds like crap exhaust wise.
The issue is that you can't have two engine choices making the same amount of horse power. The v6 make 305hp and the eco only really make 5 more at 310hp. They would either have to gimp the ecoboost or increase the HP of the v6 which would bring it too close the horse range of the v8 option.
The stock wheels on the 2017 Mustang V-6 were 17" and called "Bright Silver." Someone plastic-dipped, painted, or powder coated those rims black. I powder-coated mine and they look a heck of lot better. I don't know why automobile manufactures feel the need to make the wheels on all base trim levels either chrome or silver. The color black is in style now and no more expensive to apply than the others.
I like the V6 sound better, but I love the Orange color more on the EcoBoost!! The EcoBoost doesn’t deserve all the hate it gets bc it’s not a slow engine. I think the reason it gets so much hate though is because the Mustang is a muscle car and a 2.3L turbo doesn’t scream muscle. Mainly bc it’s a smaller engine that isn’t too loud. It’s in no way a bad engine. It’s actually better than most of its competitors, it just doesn’t scream “muscle car” when you rev it hit the gas (make it high in the rpms/ make it loud) like the Mustangs of before. I really think muscle car purists just don’t like the smaller displacement and noise difference but the EcoBoost is faster, more powerful, and it gets better gas mileage, so I definitely understand why Ford made the change
I owned a 2015 V6 with Roush axle back exhaust. It was loud but not terribly fast. Now I have a 2020 Echoboost with JLT cold air intake and blow off valve, muffler delete. It rips loud and is faster. Both automatics. 6peed(v6) vs. 10speed echo, but the echo with that turbo sound is much more fun to drive 😊.
That is so great to hear Daniel!
so what if you turbo charge the 6, something tells me it will outperform the 4, just saying
Love these comparison videos Joe, we know you are a manual driver ,but your reviews are not biased atall kudos
That V6 pulls pretty good onto the highway.
Man oh man. You have to see this video on the new 75 in Samsung qled. Between the orange and blue I’m stuck on it. I am so glad for this video. Simply great. My cousin has been an avid owner of the stang since 70 and I’m sending it to him because it’s awesome . Love the debate on the turbo 4 and V6. thank you Joe
Getting that much turbocharged power from an engine that small means you're putting lots of pressure on the engine which means more wear and more repairs down the line.
People think these 4 cylinders can handle 500+ wheel😂😂
280 hp AWD Giulia or a heavier 310 hp ecoboost... which is quicker? I’ve drive. Both, Giulia feels faster. Love to see Joe’s opinion.
According to specs, they are both similar. I hope you drove the EB with 93 octane in the tank.
Regardless, even if the awd (not lighter than the EB ,btw) 2.0t giulia was slightly faster, they are not even in the same category in style nor PRICE. Even a fully loaded EB would come up to 38k, a heavy loaded Giulia would be 56k, base price for each is 25k vs 45k respectively.
Now if youre comparing the mustang HPP to a 2.0t giulia , id say EB HPP is faster but still cheaper.
12:44 it isn't a touch screen, yet another sucky thing. You gotta use the button under it. Still love my v6, just did my exhaust. So worth it.
Back in the 60s and early 70s, the cost to upgrade to a v8 from v6 wasn't nearly as much as it is compared to today. The majority of v8's weren't even a GT. An actual GT in first gen mustangs were quite rare. But now the base v8 is offered as the GT. Ford has priced many consumers out from being able to afford a v8. I've got a 71 with a 351 cleveland, yes its a fun car to drive as weekend hobby car but a ecoboost 4 banger will smoke it. Cars today are just made so much better. It's too bad Ford couldn't keep the costs closer together. I've got no shame driving a 4 banger. It beats the hell out of the 5.0s I wanted in high school I could never afford. I'm too old to be racing around the lake anyways these days in a 400+hp v8.
It is a 4 cylinder car which WILL start using oil before it has 50000 miles. Ford has don this crap with every generation of Mustang. Then they put the 6 cylinders back in the car. 4 cylinder cars are only bought by people who doesn’t understand how motors work.
It seems that the V6 Mustang can come to life with aftermarket exhaust.
That is one way to look at it!
Fbo and tune the v6 can gain 50whp+
@@DOHCCordia How about the EB
@@xxsilver_gamingxx389 they respond well. Better to a point than the v6s.
@@DOHCCordia Right!, deciding on which to get v6 or eco after the prices go down on these vehicles 😂
Not a fan of the remodeled front end on the eco-boost, it has odd angles that just seem to sharp for the rest of the car. Plus the 3.7L Cyclone is an amazing engine. The V6 should be remembered and maybe brought back.
12:36 you can zoom in by pressing the button with a line on it that located right under the infotainment system
Ill go for the V6 . The turbo is 31k and you can get a 2018 GT for a couple thousand more.
A used 2018 GT i should said
David Perez the v6 is much cheaper, can turbo and beat gts for under 25k.
I just got a 2016 v6 with 89k on it my second mustang my mom gave and taught me Manuel in a 99 v6 made it to 300k
You are SO wrong regarding the back up camera. The big screen uses the same camera with the same resolution. So the bigger back up camera is blurry. At least the small picture is clear. I wanted the bigger picture until I compared. Also with the smaller screen you have buttons that do not require rifling through screens. The buttons are much more driver oriented.