Buying a New Warhammer Army? WATCH THIS FIRST
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- Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
- This week I thought we could chat a bit about buying Warhammer armies. After all, new year, new army, right?
It can be quite a deep subject because everyone is different and has different needs/budgets, but I thought that sharing my process might help you get what you're looking for and save a few hobby bucks in the process!
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Be sure to get in on Ravaged Star before the pledge manager closes! There are some really great minis and I've really enjoyed painting the ones I have gotten.
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I refuse to buy until skaven get an update. Aside from that 60 model box nothing else is available in Australia. Have you read the ms Frisby and Rats of NIMH? One to read the kids
What are some 3D printing companies to make requests to?
@@akumaking1 most of the 3d print monthly patreons have a list of vendors that have permission to print and sell minis from those patreons. A lot of them are on Etsy too, so you can buy pre printed minis from a ton of companies! Not terrible pricing too from what I usually see.
Always try to buy at your local hobby stores. Those stores are expensive to keep running and without your support they will shut down .
i remember i bought my first box set at a local hobby store instead of in the warhammer store back in 2017, it shut down about a few months later (it was very out of the way of the highstreet and didnt get many customers) but you could tell how much they appreciated me buying from there
Agreed. Especially for small supplies like brushes paints glue etc..
Yes 100% - my local store offers the flat 20% off rrp on everything GW, so I always try to buy from them, that discount is always worth looking for as many independents do it.
Whenever I buy on eBay I try and make sure the shop is attached to a lgs, makes me feel like I’m helping even without visiting! I know quite a few that rely on their online store to keep the lights on as well.
The problem with my local FLGS is they charge full GW price for their stuff. Not % off at all. I want to support them, don't get me wrong, but when they charge 210 for a box of Kill Team and I can get it online for 170 shipped, well, 40 bucks isn't exactly chump change.
I find the problem with buying second hand is some of the poses people have glued them in and the biggest problem when you remove the paint to find that whoever originally built the mini put way too much plastic glue on the joints/neck/ weapon area and it’s fused together or completely covered up the details on the mini. Just a couple things to look out for! Other than that, it’s the way forwards
The glue can be an issue for sure. Personally I'm on the lookout for those so I can use them for the channel lol, but if it's noticeable in the pictures and I want to get to work rather quickly, I would definitely avoid bad glue jobs.
You're good people, Casey. This is a fantastic video. Considering how confronting the hobby can be for someone new and just getting into it this is a gem.
It's always a joy to restore old or unwanted stuff and make a full army out of them,as iv got most warhammer or 40k armies I had gone back to wargaming in 54mm with victorian soldiers either with homecast moulds or I do old britains hollowcast metal figures and find great pleasure in finding broken 100 plus year old figures and repairing heads or rifles,arms and horse legs,repaint then game with them,love all your videos and a great inspiration keep up the good work.
4:47 Scibor Miniatures! Great shout out. Have bought many mini's from them. Lovely sculpts.
This video is perfect for someone new to the hobby, great way to start the new year. Respect
Great video as usual. Thank you for all you do!
Awesome video, nice spotting Vince venturella in one. I just paint not play and my local store closed down few years ago, so I buy off Ebay, I buy on the spruce only so I know I'm helping someone other than GW themselves.
Glad I found this video. I've been going back and forth on starting an army until I saw that GW was making a White Scars box. Now I know to be checking Ebay a couple of months afterwards to see if any of those boxes end up there.
Nice! Even without waiting you can still get good prices, sometimes up to 30% off depending on the store, even when it's on pre order :)
I would guess that that White Scars box will end up being split up in the future too, so getting individual sprues for even less is definitely a possibility down the road.
One thing to keep in mind is that most tournaments not run by GW itself have a distinction between proxies and counts-as. If you're playing at NOVA or most ITC events, you can use a counts-as model. A counts-as model is a clear-stand in, where a proxy can be anything. That is, if you're playing an ork warboss with a power klaw, you can use one that's from Kromlech or Artel W so long as it's roughly the same size, clearly an ork, and has the right loadout. A proxy would be using a space marine captain with a power sword, or a bottlecap. It's always important to get clarification from the judges first (and many of them ask that you run any conversions or counts-as models by them first), but unless you're playing in an event that's actually run by GW, you can probably use reasonable third party minis, and they wouldn't be considered proxies.
It is always a pleasure to get another video from Casey. Great info, clear narration and cool music.
9:49 Brent's Pile of Shame is getting really out of hand.
Thanks man :)
lol yeah Brent's really gone off the deep end investing in those Dominion boxes
I can't believe I just saw myself in your video!!! So cool. I met you at adepticon last year at Uncle Adam's and Vince Venturella's new game demo of Reign in Hell. So cool to meet so many RUclips content creators! I hope to see more this coming year!
Very nice starting video and also very cool jinjer t shirt
So glad to find out that it's possible to remove paint from minis without a sonic cleaner thing. Suddenly this went from 'a really cool idea that requires a significant piece of equipment I don't have' to 'this might be worth trying...'
I use a Costco-sized pickle jar with dollar store degreaser, it works really well, no sonic cleaner required. If speed is what you're after though, you really can't beat it.
@@eBayMiniatureRescues At the moment I've only just painted my first mini and starting working on the next three. Still figuring out the very basics and not sure what game I want to play, just that I like painting fantasy minis.
@@elizabethmilward8301 That's awesome! Welcome to the hobby :)
If you like fantasy minis then I would definitely suggest looking into Warcry. Great fantasy minis, and lots of opportunities to make small custom warbands that can be used in a game that is actually pretty fun and easy.
After watching yours and Mezgikes vids for years i have finally taken the plunge and buy a pack of minis to have a go at painting. I'm just waiting to pluck up the courage to have a go.
Woo!! Welcome to the hobby man (at least the painting part of it lol) Best advice I can give is to just not worry about the outcome of your first minis, just have fun with it and enjoy the process! And know that you got this, you've done the mental work up front, learning and seeing the process, trust yourself.
Very cool man, I'm truly excited for you! :)
Great info. Thanks
Thanks for the tips, this is a huge help. Especially some one who's only ever casually been into wh40k and been looking to get into the table top. I've always wanted to, a side affect of Emperors text to speech being popular when I was in school.😅
Interesting I hadn’t thought of setting up the search as you suggested… I often look at items to bid for and they go out of reach … I’ll have a play around and see what I get
This is why I play skirmish style games like Kill team becauses then I can get a small amount of cool minis for a variety of factions and paint what inspires me.
A tiny percentage of tournaments are official gw events. You can play with proxies at the vast majority of competitive events.
That's a good point, GW only does a handful of actual tournaments per year. Good new is, if your TO is down with proxies then you can definitely have more fun than the pure GW tournament players!
Great video mate, thanks for all the tips. Ive got a question, where to buy those lamps at 5:56? Seems like lamps I need.
Thanks! The lights are led ring lights I got off of amazon a while back. They came with one of those collapsible light boxes for photography. Really nice lights and I clearly still use them. The same can't be said for the photobooth lol.
I'm loving these new Casey Neistat hobby vlogs. Super helpful, thanks man
8:52 having a closer look at you saved searches and you explaining how and why you phrased them the way you did, would be very interesting to me.
The saved searches have custom names so I remember the parameters, those aren't actually the searches themselves. Most of the searches are for specific types of minis, like one is metal minis within $5-$35 range that have been assembled, some paint, sorted by buy it now within North America, and I have notifications on like email. The title is weird, like Age of Sigmar 5/35 so I know what that search is. That's probably the weirdest looking one on my list. Most of the rest have relatively normal names lol.
So i started dok this last month because i was already kinda interested but didnt take the shot but the xmas boxes they released changed that. I picked up 2 of them from my lgs with an additional 15% off ontop of the normal msrp price. I then found a secound hand primed only morathi on ebay for roughly 45% off. So starting my new dok army for a solid value just need to pick up last few things like high gladiatrix and i will have a new aos army for the new year.
Smart way to start that faction!
That's exactly how I started my dok army, morathi for a great deal, and then christmas boxes. Not a bad price at all for such a sweet set of minis!
Respect for the Jinjer shirt!
You mention proxies, or models from other manufacturers, and importance of checking weapons / hands match.
Many gw kits have spare heads, weapons and hands. Using your spares on the third party models is a great way to to have them fit your citadel collection.
That's a really cool idea! That would really give those minis way more of that feel. I've done that with a Great Unclean One before, used all the extra bits to make a new one using a 3rd party body, it fits right in!
I really enjoy your videos you inspired to drive into the ebay rabbit hole 🤣 but I've gotten I think over 2,000 points of Ossiarch Bonereapers for probably half of what it would cost at MSRP as well as the AOS Dominion box for close to 25% cheaper.
A true warrior would jump on boxes of dominion priced at $104
Some have said that they are seeing them for even less, I do want more though, just to sit on them.
Forgot one important thing:One should make sure to finish his old army before starting a new one!
*cough* Death Guard *cough*
lol fair enough, I'm really close on it though, and not that it's an excuse...or it sorta is, but, I'm waiting to get a bunch of minis back from ZorpaZorp and Broadsword Gaming. I sent off a ton of DG models for a killteam thing we were gonna do but it ended up not happening. They still haven't sent me back my minis!
Question: What was in the tub that you were applying to the kruleboyz bases? Was it just standard pva?
Yeah, just a tub of it labeled PVA for terrain. It's definitely just normal PVA, even smells the same too.
I started up a new Abyssal Dwarf Army for Kings of War and I did so by just grabbing the box from a LGS where I live. Immediately started up with the manager about playing games and meeting up, immediately connected without even knowing one another.
Going to my local store tomorrow and starting a Imperial Knights Army. 😁
Very cool! I love painting Imperial Knights, really fun kits!
hell yea! love to see a mention of Relicblade. Malev out there teaching the best game there is lol
I keep slipping Relicblade in whenever I get the chance. I really love the minis, and Sean and Malev are some of the best dudes in the hobby!
I've now seen the Napoleonic battle scene at 1:59 in many videos all over this platform. Where is it from?
It's from storyblocks, just a stock video, but it's literally the only video of miniatures on their entire platform.
Great video as usual man, but that stock footage guy is mental 😂
That dude is the most prolific stock youtube dude I've ever seen lol. I love when I can use footage of him, he's freakin everywhere with literally every expression on record. I see different footage of him on so many channels.
Where are those white mdf storage units in your background from?
Hobby Zone! Really good stuff too, although the shipping can get pricey.
www.hobbyzone.pl/
There has always been one question that has prevented me from stripping models. What do I do with the solution afterwards?
Would they be safe to pour down a drain after it gets too dirty, or would I have to dispose of them as hazardous chemicals?
As far as I know there's nothing hazardous about the degreaser, it's mostly water, and made to be used in normal house cleaning. The acrylic paint, while it might not be great to poor down the sink certainly is way less than someone cleaning out a paint brush after painting a wall in their house. In reality, the waste we create in the hobby is nothing compared to even 1 day of what gets thrown out or put in the sewer from any business or restaurant in your local area.
Doubling down on what your channel is build on instead of changing the name like you mentioned you where considering in the past! Great call IMO!
As much as i love your vids and watch every single one, i wish the postage to my country was cheaper from ebay. unfortunately the cost of postage typically ends up costing me more than just buying it new. would love to get some of the deals you see.
That’s a huge bummer for sure. I can’t buy from the UK more often than not for the exact same reason. Although I have definitely seen sellers that ship through the eBay international program for free. It could be worth finding some and just saving them as sellers, you never know.
@@eBayMiniatureRescues true. Good idea. But NZ is a long was too send things regardless haha. Have you got some sellers in mind you could share
God, yeah. I see so much Warhammer sold for cheap in the UK on Ebay and wish I could get it without getting charged an arm and a leg for shipping, thus negating all the potential savings.
11:22 can you recommend a cheap ultra sonic cleaner that works with LA’s Totally Awesome?
It's a little hard to recommend a specific model because they change out on Amazon all the time, but a smaller one around $30/$40 is what I was using for a long time. No matter what, try and get one from Amazon so you can return it if it doesn't work. I've only had 1 that was no good when I got it, but that return policy saved me big time!
A quick look and here's one that is similar to the small one I had for quite a long time.
All sonic cleaners will work with LA's Totally Awesome, the real difference is how big/industrial they are. Most of the smaller ones are meant for jewelry, who'd of thought, so you can only fit so many minis in there, but the big ones have things like drain pipes and extra heating. Not all that useful if I'm being honest. For the money it's pretty much about size and durability, but the smaller ones still work great.
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Visual aesthetic is a must, for sure. I agree, if you don't like painting the models, then what's the point? Unless you're a commission painter, which is a totally different mindset. Unfortunately, one of the reasons I don't do Warhammer is that no matter what the outlet online or what have you, those models still cost a bunch of money. GW is overpriced and they gleefully keep raising prices every year, no matter what--it's almost part of the fandom, it would appear, to anticipate the annual raising of the prices. Me, I got bills to pay and they wait for no one.
Ah forgot look up one page rules that solves issues too.
I feel you on that, it's still very expensive to get into Warhammer specific games no matter where you get it. I really do appreciate 3D printing as a great alternative, it's initial cost can be high, but the great looking minis you can get are just as fun to paint as any GW mini out there, and most of them have their own game system, or something that can easily proxy into most other games. At least, to say the least, there are other really good options other than GW minis.
STOMA HYPE!
"The most Dakka you've ever seen"
That's a pretty bold claim, cause I've seen some Dakka in my time.
lol, I'll let you be the judge, but let me tell you, there is some real dakka incoming!
Everyone always talks about painting models you like the look of which is fine. But then they go a step further and specifically disregard how they play. If you hate the playstyle of an army, why would you ever want to paint it?! Playstyle is important too
That's definitely fair. Armies all play differently and that is important to take into account. I like to watch batreps to see how different armies play and that informs my future buying decisions. But, I am also the kind of person who doesn't play an army until I paint it, so I wouldn't actually know if I didn't like it until it was way too late, maybe not the best way to go about it, but I like to paint more than play, so it's always a win for me. If you're more 50/50 or leaning towards gameplay, then definitely, pick the army that will be fun to play and paint!
Used models stores like this are out of my country and online used ones... New ones discounted costs less moreover if you included the ss
That's a huge bummer Luca. I know especially the shipping can put a lot of people out of reach for getting the good deals. My best advice is to get into Facebook gaming groups that are as local to you as possible so the shipping is a little better, or even someone local to trade with. Best of luck!
13:42 where is that stl?
Moar Dakka!
WAAAGH!
More dakka!
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Tried to get into wargaming...keep not having time to paint, assemble, or play anything. Hope y'all get your armies going : )
So good! Gotta love 50% off :) And those Dominion boxes are at an all time low around $110 these days, stupid good deal for the minis in that box.
I do love me some Comic Kingdom my dude.
such a good place :)
If you use eBay, NEVER forget that there may be a cost for shipping. Take that into account before you bid or purchase. AU is typically 50$, UK is usually 26$.
Shipping is a nightmare, I rarely buy outside of North America because of it. UK prices have spiked so much recently that I almost never look. That being said, I do try and save sellers that take advantage of the ebay international shipping program, which really helps the price out. You can also create saved searches that take those things into account so when you browse listings you don't have to think about it. That really helps me out and I see every listing available within my price range, including shipping.
STOMPA!, STOMPA!, STOMPA!.
That box of sand, your basing with, is that from Pyramid? Lol
Hah! that would be great, but no, it's actually from a small coastal town called Bandon up on the Oregon coast. I go there all the time and have painted many minis there. The beach sand has a great variety of rocks and small shell particles, really good for basing. Pyramid sand would be a nice touch, though I may need to sift it first...I've stepped more than a few sharp objects in my day.
@eBay Miniature Rescues in glad I eyed it, and am grateful for the response. I get too complicated, sometimes, in doing my minis. I know a few great places in my neck of the woods that would garner great basing materials. You made me think of that. Got to love the West.
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That's my issue with miniatures. I have no creativity. I love following instructions rather than painting. I'd do Lego instead but it's more expensive lmao.
Lego is off the rails these days, I remember getting huge sets for not a lot back in the day...that's why I paint minis now lol. But really, it can be expensive, that's why I'm always on the lookout for the deals, sometimes you can get really lucky!
@@eBayMiniatureRescues I want the Millenium Falcon one but it's like £700 lmao. One day, one day. Cheers for letting me live through you instead haha.
Huzzah
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!!
The guy running the gw store also has to justify his existence. You might think they're evil extortionists but the guy running it probably isn't. The guy at my local gw is a good guy so even though it's cheaper literally anywhere else I still buy from him because I look at this as a luxury anyway and im not totally addicted to plastic crack.
100%, and if you can buy directly then great! I love going to my local GW, the manager is awesome and always greets me by name when I come in. The vibe there is really great too, really nice to play games and hangout.
Are you interested in taking donations to the channel? I'm going back to school with a little one on the way and have come to the conclusion that there is no chance I'm ever going to get to my pile of shame - there's a couple hundred AOS and 40K models/box sets from various factions. I can send you a complete list if you'd like.
Hey Dale, I am always happy to take donations! Donations have become a big part of this channel and make up for quite a large number of rescue videos. I really appreciate that you would like to donate to the cause and thank you very much for considering it. If you could email me at ebayminirescues@gmail.com we can talk more, thanks again man!!
Squig army
The way Americans say "ducka" always amuses me no end. Dakka has the same 'a' as flak.
Video could have been much shorter: "thinking of starting a Warhammer army? Well, don't."
lol
there no point in buying an army if there no one to play with.
Hey man, I know the feeling well. That being said, you just need to get out there and ask. Local clubs are a great place to meet up with people, Facebook groups, local discord groups all have people looking for the same thing. There's a great app called GameFor that is designed specifically with tabletop gamers in mind to talk and setup games based on your location. People want to play and if you do to then I'm sure you would be able to find it if you looked, you just need to take the leap.
Id just always start with 1 introduction box, They used to be cheap *Cries*, or if you already sort of have your list built, but 1 box at a time, paint them, finish them, and then go in for more, Id never advice anyone to dump 1 grand or whatever to buying an army in its entirety.
Also ALWAYS, ALWAYS BUY Models you like, never buy models that are "Good" in the Meta, GW is the worst company I know of for having a stable "meta",
Books made by GW are also worthless, unless you enjoy the lore. Books pretty much become toilet paper after 1 year, because the rules will have changed. heck I have had examples of books having rules altered 1 month after they where published.
deeznuts
Plastic is terrible, metal or nuffin
I do love me some metal minis. Relicblade is all metal, and really well done!