I hadn't thought of this but yes, having at least a couple positive feedbacks would surely of meant more potential buyers...that and the pictures being so crisp also probably made the listing even more suspicious to some.
if they did this once every month they would build up a reputation and have a consistent revenue it would also give them a chance on painting some stuff that they wouldnt paint otherwise JUST DO IT
@@PyromancerRift to be fair, people are shopping eBay to get things cheaper than the store. Nobody is seriously shopping it as if it’s the store. “Being rats” isn’t really the reason.
@@slavaukraini1991 The other half being that the customer base is really small. Who plays WH40k? Most consumers just want to paint their models on their own. the base of people wanting to play without painting is just non existent. No buyers=low prices.
Fun video I enjoyed this. Shame on the final price. As a full time eBay re seller specialising in Warhammer my 2 best tips to any eBay sellers would be 1. NEVER do auction. You give yourself a 7 day window to find the right buyer. There's a very good chance the right buyer won't see your listing at all. Put it by now for a price you'd be happy with and wait it out. 2. Feedback makes a big difference to finding a buyer who will trust you enough to spend big, and it also helps your listing more visible with the eBay algorithm
My thoughts: If you're not selling an ENTIRE 2000pt list (and more) of an army, it probably hurts the models to be a non-traditional color scheme. I mean, if I wanted to purchase a pre-painted army and cared how good it looked, I'd also NOT want to have to paint match to an off-the-wall color scheme. If you do this again in the future, try an already existing (and maybe even popular!) color scheme.
This honestly was one of the most fun videos you have posted for a while, great job! I think you could make a series of it and try to learn from earlier attempts to eventually make BANK! :D
I don't know but suspect people who buy painted units either might want to include them in their already (self?)painted army or will buy several different painted units over time to build their own army - so going with an official scheme might help.
Yep, when I buy some extra units off eBay and they are painted, I usually only bid on figures that are really close to my already painted minis. I play necrons, and use caliban green for the shoulders, I don’t mind adding that to an eBay figure as long most of the model is close to my existing models paint scheme.
'Squats' have been on of the most requested armies to be brought back/updated for decades. The other being Sisters. The real problem with selling on ebay has little to do with the army, and far more to do with name recognition or competition with Chinese sweat shop painting companies. In this case people saw a real possible deal, and they intentionally bid low.
As someone who used to sell painted units and armies on ebay for several years, I personally know that selling at reasonable start prices, with good or better paint jobs, doesn't mean high bids.
100%, and painted as a common chapter/craftworld/hive fleet, etc. That's a massive issue for a lot of people. Why buy a tiny army lot painted in a colour palette that you've never seen and may not be able to match?
Really fun video. You should totally do a series painting Kill teams for profit. You’ll get the same amount of content from a smaller cost and time investment, you’re most passionate about Kill Team anyway, and you can knock out a huge variety of teams for our enjoyment
Kill teams and warbands are a good idea for this - matching any new purchases to an army set is going to be difficult. But a kill team (and maybe some extra models) allows someone to jump in immediately, and not have to worry about color scheme/skill/appearance matching.
Just when you think throwing stuff at least once per vid is Jay’s signature move, he doesn’t do it, completely subverting your expectations! A true artiste!
I agree with many others, that it would be more profitable if it was a more popular army. Also a factor that I've noticed really makes a difference in an items final price (that you didnt really factor in/mention) was what day and time of day the final hour of the auction lands on. Try to aim the end of the auction for mid day on a saturday or sunday (Which usually means placing it the previous week at exactly the time you want it to end for 7 day auctions, obviously). Many people only even see items with a few hours left (Impulse buy) and you will have the largest amount of eyes scanning the "warhammer" keyword and auctions ending soon. Just as a buyer I have got some seriously good deals on items that I know for certain if the auction wasn't ending in the middle of the night or an odd time in the morning, that I'd have had at least a few other opportunistic bidders to fight with.
I actually buy and sell armies as a sort of hobby / slide hustle. The basic graph of how I sell models online. NIB Army = 15-25% off MSRP Built but not painted = 40-50% off MSRP Painted badly = 55-65% off MSRP Painted decent = 50% off MSRP Painted God Tier= +20 to 25% MSRP Heres the kickers. 1. A paint style the buyer cant replicate themselves might as well be painted badly because the buyer needs to be able to add models to their army that look similar so if youre going to sell a whole army it better be 2000 points and competitive so they dont have to paint and add new modesl that look worse than the ones you made. 2. Buying a whole army is a huge investment and like people who buy anything custom it needs to be perfect for them OR be an insane deal. 3. Armies are a point of pride for most players and it becomes irksome when you constantly get complimented on a paint job you didnt do 4. The one that gets a lot of people. The cost of buying a god tier painted model and commissioning your own custom painted god tier model is virtually the same. So why would I buy an army painted god tier when for the same price I can commission my own completely custom army. Lastly the world is in a recession and I assumed this was shot probably over the course of Oct? Which means recession + holidays coming up = bad time for warhammer resellers. The one dollar starting bid thing isssssss finnnne risky but fine. It was a much better idea for content because starting at 1$ you at least have a guarantee SOMEONE will buy it, but if you listed at 500$ theres a chance no one would buy it and the video wouldve kind of had a ....weird ending. PS: In case you want to do it yourself its a fun hobby. Warhammer armies are cumbersome so if you find one at a garage sale or swap meet you can usually get a really good deal just for them to not have to lug it back to the house. The best deal Ive had so far is 2k+ points of Eldar for 120 USD (Sold to a friend for 140$) and 3k points of Primaris for 150$ (I split it out and sold it online) If you get a good deal give a good deal. Recently, once I break even on a lot. I give away 500 point armies to new players trying to get into the game for free the only catch is they have to play at least 3 games. My philosophy is if you can play 3 games for new players thats basically 12 hours of game time and by that time youre pretty invested.(Now that I write this I think I may basically be a warhammer drug dealer) I also just sell to my friends for whatever I bought the models for. I dont make a ton of money, but my friends arent the SIGMA MALE GRINDSET HUSTLER😏 that I am so they have a tougher time finding and getting the good deals. It loses profit but as long as I break even. I essentially get models I want for free and my friends get cheap models.
The GW shop has several guys and girls doing project work on consignment, building is classed as one project and painting the other, but you have to supply the boxed items they don’t purchase them, they have battle ready, options for painting and three different subtypes, installation of magnets are a separate project, also if you have a specific colour scheme you can put that in the project deliverables. I had two students at university I coached who did this as a team together one did the building the other did the painting. They also did tutorials on painting and playing games like a PT coach, I think now they are 4 people (partners) who also run games nights and weekends sessions.
I don't even play warhammer but I really enjoyed the building process and tension during the bidding. The amount of work done for this video is also way more than other youtubers who simply vlog their daily meals. Nice job both!
Nearly 20 years ago, I bought two Imperial Guard Steel Legion squads on eBay, which were fabulously well painted. The price was ridiculously low (~$35), given their quality. I got really lucky. I turned around and sold two of my own unpainted (but primed) Steel Legion squads, and made my money back and then some. Goes to show that people are not getting value for their painted models.
10:07 The aperture setting is incorrect on your DSLR camera, if the depth of field is too small and gets too out of focus. While you need a wide aperture for low light conditions, you can compensate by having a bigger (worser) ISO or slower shutter speed.
Used to sell Bolt Action armies on E-bay on a regular basis. Pricing for me was $5 (USD) per fig for man size (7 for cav and 10 for larger figs) Vehicles like tanks were $20. Added in the retail cost of the army, and then shipping and e-bay costs. Sold at that price on a regular basis but stopped doing it years ago. Never claim Pro Painter, most who do ARE NOT. I used to claim above average wargaming standards. Problem these days are kit costs have doubled and gotten silly. Take flames of war for instance, tanks are average at $10 for kit cost unless you get starter kits. Add in cost of decals and another $10 per vehicle for assembly, painting, decaling, and dusting and sealing. That is $20 a tank or $100 for 5, have a hard time getting people to want to pay that for 5 little tanks, but it costs me 50 alone to buy them.
I've always assumed that you can make more depending on when you end an auction. If you end the auction around say 7ish pm CST on a Friday (most people get paid on Fri) you can get a bit more. Then also, rep helps too. A reason why you may get less would be because of a low rep. something that can be easily remedied by doing a couple low cost transactions - that they couldn't do in this instance. Again, this is all assumption and I'd appreciate others' input.
@@nachochips529 Easily over $1000 lol. Arriving into a competition with a good army built by a pro player and painted by a great artist has no price [well, a very high one lol].
@@nachochips529 right there with you, actively knowing someone just slapchopped the paint job in a day would make me just want to save the extra money and do it myself
Nick's asides-to-camera game is really on point. Nice Squats, Jay. The hazard stripes on the guns are really neat. And I really like the robot-head option for the Squats. Maybe the next time, with this successful sale and a good review, you'll get more next time. Of course, we'll all be adding "Painters R Us" to our watchlist in the hope of picking up a sweet, sweet deal.
In the past I've sold some armies on ebay, unpainted I think the highest price I got for one was around £600 (there was a good amount of stuff in there) I was thinking about selling my T'au army recently and had a look on ebay and noticed that a lot of armies aren't going for too much anymore, even well painted ones seem to be struggling; there is a cost of living crisis going on so it's interesting to see how that is having an impact upon the hobby.
I think it's a credit to you and other youtubers for teaching the community how to paint, there are more good painters out there so it drives prices down :P. The army looked great anyways though, so you can have that pride.
I don't want to spoilt the ending of this video but....ouch. Please know that at least you boys thoroughly entertained us. What would also be fascinating is to do this again, but posting as yourselves, and announcing the army for sale on this channel and other social media first, to compare the effect social media has on sales like this.
The recast ones sure do. A magnetised custodes army can sell for 2-3times as much it costed to make. And that is including the cost of the printer, but not counting "work hours" .
I think if this became a series, that’d be fun. Plus as mentioned, maybe having more reviews and feedback on your eBay will get you better sales. Thumbs up for the video
That sounds about right for resale... this just says more about ebay than anything else. You usually get ~30% market value on any item in pawn, garage sale, ebay whatever - unless you bought gold/silver or collectables that appreciated.
Dang. Really thought that was gonna go for more than 350. Maybe because you started low it gave the impression you had little worth for the work you did. If that makes sense. I thought up did a bang up job! It was nice to see more of Nick! Fantastic work as always!! Thanks gents!!!
I’m not good enough yet for my painting to “add value” but I feel like if you just love painting and are good at it, it’s really not a bad side hustle. Doing what you love and you get paid. Obviously there’s probably ways to improve your profits like putting it up for higher or doing more ‘main stream’ factions. But it’s an insightful video
Yeah like, you're probably not gonna make a profit off this. But if you judt like building and painting for the sake of it and would rather the models go to others than be your own collection, it could be a decent way of lightening some of the financial cost of the hobby
@@ByzanQueen Yh. I guess my point is if you say bought a combat patrol box for £100 or whatever currency. Painted them all up and sold them for say £200-300 for arguments sake. You’ve technically made a profit and if you’re happy with your current army and just like the hobby because of painting. It’s good to recoup or make money off the hobby. Your profit margins are probably tiny when you compare the time spend vs the sale but for me, If I did it. I’m at university so I have a lot of free time so it wouldn’t matter anyway. If that makes sense
Awesome video! Very well edited, excellent pacing. Seeing you work for specific goal makes deeply engaging. Even the sponsor part was fun. Definitely would like to see more of this kind.
I never sell as auction. You have to plan when you start the listing so it ends during weekend and you have to make sure all your listing shows up in correct areas. Also people love to not pay more than 50% the actual value and no more. eBay isn't retail it's second hand cheap stuff.
I sold about $80k worth of 40k on Ebay in 2020. There's a definite hierarchy of how much a model with get with unpainted-on-sprue getting the most to painted at the bottom. Painted minis have to be REALLY good to recoup your money (and have good pictures, end on 5pm Friday or Sunday...) there's a real formula to getting the highest price.
What an cool experiment! I have just listed my og 1989 Hero Quest that I’d painted up and I didn’t know what to price it at! I asked in a fb group and I got a lot of compliments about my painting from total strangers so I’m hopeful! 🤞😊🤞
Well Jay, i have zero regrets to this day grabbing your incredibly painted Deathwatch army, and feel i got a great deal for it. If that makes you feel any better
6:50 isn't it quicker to just grab like 5 figures, and paint color by color? so you first paing all of the orange parts, then blue, then highlights and you get the next 5? (I'm not a painter nor player just love to see people design these things but thought this could be more efficient)
Just re-watched it. Ending the auction on a Friday in between 4-5pm works better. You get a lot of peeps who can't resist goofing off at work on Ebay at that precise moment. OR, if you end it on Sunday before 5pm is good too. You don't want the Snipers occupied with their favorite TV show or making dinner.
Part of the problem is no feedback. Part of the problem is it has to appeal to the right buyer. I think those eBay sales are traps or going to end up a loss. The only people making money doing this are doing commissions where the buyer has specified what they’re looking for. Maybe some one with social media clout can get a little better than this test, but it still comes down to “do I want my army looking this way”. Especially consider when it’s not a 2k army being sold so they have to replicate or commission someone to replicate it on other models
I love your videos and Jays narration is always awesome you can tell he really loves minis ❤I really do love the fact you both were in this one a fair amount. As well as Jay and his bro have a friendship that translates well to the audience. Great work gentleman. May you battle many more Eons! ❤
Great video fellas! Super fun to watch. And I agree with many of the comments saying was good to see more of Nick. With Jay as the artist and Nick as the tech guru you guys make a great dynamic duo!
I have buying (at a discount) Warhammer 40K armies, building and painting them and then selling it on eBay. Generally, I make about $15,000 per year. Mostly, it’s a way to hobby and not have to clutter my house too much. I usually sell a 2,000 point army for about $995.00.
Did you paint it to match a faction in the codex or just pick a random scheme? Matching a faction color would have allowed using the models in an existing force or as a starting force and adding additional models later adding value.
I dont know if you guys hired a new editor or just decided to crank it up a notch but this video was excellent. Keep doing this. Nick being back on the camera was cool too!
If you want to earn money with (well) painted armies, just make sure to reach the biggest audience possible: 1. Choose a very popular army. And by popular I mean one that sells to high prices and fast in used or new conditions. 2. Choose a very popular paint scheme. Now this can be a bit tricky. But you can also approach the other way around: Avoid unpopular paint schemes. And use paint schemes that are very attractive for the eye. Best would be probably staying close to GW Box cover. 3. Simple, but eye catching and creative basing. That might even be the one thing that makes the army more unique from similar paint schemes. 3. Take good pictures. Image stacking helps a lot. Show the (hopefully well painted) faces of the most outstanding minis. 4. Write a lot of text how you did the painting and basing. Give it a(n emotional) background and maybe a tiny bit of lore. 5. !!! Give the buyer the option to get more models in the same style !!! Just imagine you would like buy an army for 800$ but you desperately want to have the one extra character who is not included. Do you still buy it or not? Well, chances are, if the painter gives you the option to purchase more minis in the exact same style, you'll more likely bid on the army. Also, this is a win-win, because someone who is willing to spent a lot of money on a painted army is most likely willing to spent more on some extra work. And because you, the painter, already know how to paint this particular style, will have an easy way to earn extra cash without too much effort. If I forgot anything, please add below. No one should work for one dollar an hour because of bad ebay sales. :D
I think some of these pre painted sellers on eBay sell the models just to recoup the cost so they can get better at painting. Also helps build up there portfolio for potential jobs and if they do commission based work.
I loved this video!!!! So good to see Nick, seriously your production value in your videos has skyrocketed! So glad to see both of you bringing your passion and art form into this channel. 🎉
only sold for so little because of the zero feedback. If you wanted to do this for real, you need to spend a few months painting single heroes, or underworlds teams, then maybe a killteam or warcry set. Then with the feedback from those, you'd easily sell this one for $1k. But out of the blue. Pro photography. Zero feedback. Nice paint and build. That's just a scam. I'm surprised anyone even risked $350--guess it was just a gamble that seriously worked out for someone with $350 to risk completely wasting
Good reasoning, but how often does getting scammed on ebay really leave you screwed? Somebody sold me a fake Pokemon card once. I complained to ebay and got my money back almost immediately.
LOL you may have not made the bank you were hoping but its one of the best vids you’ve done in my opinion. The auction countdown at the end was surprisingly entertaining. Also as a film guy I wanted to suggest that if you have the camera with the optics and good lighting. You can achieve full focus by closing your aperture and widening your Depth of field. Specially if you’re on a tripod. That being said stacking images is a good option too specially for someone working from a phone. You’re stuff is growing on my all the time thanks for the hard work!
I could feel the excitement as you watched the auction finish - feel bad on your sale price but........... makes for a good video - especially the painting bits!!
i thank that becouse of the squat nerf this sold for much less than it should have but this was a great video, hope it blows up and makes up for the ebay sale
I loved this video. I can tell you put a lot of time into it. The paint job was great also. I think people might have a hard time spending a lot on a color scheme they didn’t pick. If it was done in the Margie W color scheme, I bet it would’ve sold for more. Great army great video thanks!
You kind of have to filter out results below a certain threshold when looking for miniatures, otherwise you'll see tons of auctions from people trying to get a few bucks for their leftover bits. Even if you get more clicks out of a low listing they will probably be from people who are looking for second hand models, rather than folks who are looking to buy a battle ready army.
I'd say if this was a business and you were paid like £10 dollars an hour (I am English, I don't know if that is good or bad.) then you did $300 of work, paid $200 which means you would have to start it at $500. If you were a hobbyist, like you did it in your spare time and sold it like after a week of chipping through it all then you could of sold it for more. Also, they probably didn't sell well because people want to buy aims based on a existing colour scheme, like Ultramarines, or Iron Fists or black Templars, not Jerry's home-brew. The only case where home-brew is competitive is if you were selling a knights.
Nice to see Nick honestly. I started this channel when you guys were together pretty often on screen so this feels right. No offense Jay! I love the "Jay's Big Comfty Couch" show lol
I approve of the message this video, but for an all new account I recommend that you sell a few items at a reasonable price to get in a few good reviews. That will help you get a better price down the line.
probably already said, but selling painted models is hard as the color scheme has to be what the buyer pool wants. the buyer is also locked into the painting style and theme.
If you're going to buy retail and give them a pro quality paint job you need to market them as pro painted to stand a chance of making a profit. In which case you need to be able to show more than just one painted army in an off brand colour scheme. A better way to do it is buy job lots cheap on ebay, especially jumbled lots that don't make a full army from any faction. Split that into units with the number of models people actually want to field in an army not the random number of models GW put in a box to make you buy 2. Give them the most generic colour scheme to maximise potential buyers and only spend as much time as it takes to do a good 'Eavy Metal' paint job. Elder aspect warriors used to be good for that as they could go in any army with their standard colour scheme. Even then, these days, you might not see enough of a profit to make it worthwhile.
Very nice work on painting and photography. I would value the force at $700 for sure. As was mentioned, the 0 feedback likely was making folks a little hesitant to bid.
I don't bid on ebay, bots will always out bid you at the last second. So you never end up with what you want for a good price. On the other side of that is sellers getting low returns because people don't want to waste time bidding if someone has a bot on something to sit on an item just saying plus one or snipping items.
I think if you had painted space marines you probably would have made a better profit. Mainly because if someone's buying to add to an existing army, the space marines will already be the same color scheme, since the chapters are so ubiquitous. Even doing something like Cadians, Necrons or Orks, which are generally going to be close to the "official" color schemes most of the time would be good too. With this, they either have mismatched Votann, or this is their first purchase, but now they have to try and paint the rest of their army the same color scheme.
Should’ve done a mainstream (box art) color scheme. I usually sell normal ultramarines and blood angels for a good profit. People want things that will match what they have more often than not.
I'm new, wanting to paint a mini as an adult, but didn't realize what weapons used from the spru matter to value, i was building based on looks.... so I notice castarferrum dreadnought that have gattling gun n claw arm (close quarters)sell on ebay for 25 n the one with the gattling gun n the 9x rocket laucher arm (more ranged) sell for 20?
Good for you that you have got some profit. The absolute majority was sold with a great discont, about 50%. Do not forget about shipping and comissions.
I'd bet you'd get more bids painting them the same color scheme as the box. GW spends a lot of time and money researching default colors that will sell models, so why let that work go to waste if you are just gonna sell?
Ebay is always a crap shoot, unless you develop a specific model like buying things cheap overseas and flipping them. Still though, its a great place to sell collectibles, been doing it for years after I get tired of a piece in my collection. Rarely make any profit but it lets me put the money I sold the item for back into my print and statue collection.
Personally, I'm a good painter but not amazing. I sold a 2k points White Scars Primaris heavy army, 3k of Raven Guard, and 1k of Harlequins on eBay. Didn't make a killing but I was able to paint up the armies, play with them, then sell them and use the proceeds for my next army. Not a bad way to go about it for the average player.
The big problem with listings like this, especially ones that use non-standard colour schemes, is where do I, the buyer, go from here? I've bought the starter set from you and now I want to expand my army with 2 more units. Do I try and paint them myself matching your scheme? Do I go back to ebay in the hope that someone else has matched the colours? Or do I put up with a pick and mix of different colour schemes? The number one thing I want to know as an ebay army buyer is can I expand on my purchases. Ebay sellers that are pro-painters should make sure they offer vouchers or something so people can expand, or stick with an army that has a set standard colour scheme (like a space marine chapter).
Like it here’s have said I think the feedback is the biggest issue. I avoid buying things from people with low feedback. Maybe sell individual models for a little while, drive the feedback up and try again.
I recently sold a Necron army on eBay. I didn’t realize they take 12.5% and if it’s over 600.00 they send a 1099 form so I have to report it on my taxes. I was lucky that I did make money on it but it didn’t cover my time painting. I paint for fun so if it was commission driven I would have been screwed
This has been my experience of selling painted minis on ebay auctions. The problem is the audience: whoever is looking at buying minitures on ebay is looking for a deal, not to spend large amounts on collectibles...considering this you guys actually did well with almost doubling MSRP.
Those were beautiful models. Thanks for the video. I have bought and sold Warhammer stuff on eBay and I never seem to make bank. Usually you break even before EBay charges you.😂
$200 - $300 US is the "disposable income" number, generally speaking. Meaning people can spend (up to) $300 without thinking too hard about it in the US. Anything over that requires additional scrutiny. And that's in a good economic climate.
Honestly? I would have said something like that would sell for $350. I sell a veritable f-k ton of stuff on eBay (mostly other people's 40K stuff on commission), and that's right in line with what I would expect. Anyone paying more is going to watch custom work, or a lot which matches their current army (i.e. Blood Angel Space Marines). I think painting a random...non-lore-based Squat force hurt you tremendously. It's a tiny model collection which they'll now have to try to match, etc. I think you would have seen better results painting a small force like that in a chapter/craftworld/hive fleet style which is more common.
Well... Even though you guys both got super screwed, that was probably my favorite video or yours. - I really like the Nick & Jay Show. - the editing was hilarious and amazing! - as someone who wants to sell minis it was rather insightful. - the end was tragic... But tragedy + time = comedy...? throughout the video I was thinking, it would be cool to sell multiple armies or models to see if there was a pattern because one sale could have been a fluke, but at the end of the video is not really worth going through that again. Thank you both for your hard work and giving us goblins entertainment.
Jay and Nick: "This was a terrible idea!"
Everyone: "Do it again"
because it wasn't - they made direct money from the content they're putting on youtube for hundreds of dollars per video. This profit is on top.
@@fahrradmittelfranken8207 Unless RUclips demonetises them for "reasons".
@@Karloss00 Nice boogeyman.
I would say them having 0 feedback on their ebay account really hurt the total price.
I think this might be the reason , feedback on eBay is so important !
I hadn't thought of this but yes, having at least a couple positive feedbacks would surely of meant more potential buyers...that and the pictures being so crisp also probably made the listing even more suspicious to some.
@@Malthus absolutely, if I saw the listing I’d feel like it surely had to be too good to be true , and the feedback would confirm that
if they did this once every month they would build up a reputation and have a consistent revenue
it would also give them a chance on painting some stuff that they wouldnt paint otherwise
JUST DO IT
@@PyromancerRift to be fair, people are shopping eBay to get things cheaper than the store. Nobody is seriously shopping it as if it’s the store. “Being rats” isn’t really the reason.
My Dad was a commission painter, and once he tried the £1 strategy with a block of 40 black orcs. They sold for £1
I think half the battle these days is the "I want it now" culture, nobody wants to wait for a week for something to finish.
@@slavaukraini1991 The other half being that the customer base is really small.
Who plays WH40k? Most consumers just want to paint their models on their own. the base of people wanting to play without painting is just non existent.
No buyers=low prices.
Lol
I remember a while back when I sold a display model on ebay and I made less than the model was worth unpainted 🙃
yep!!! were right there with you.
But you got cash - instead of having a dust collector
@@deankirkpatrick7658 spot the gamer 😅
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@@Miniac LOL
Nicks screen presence is really great this vid, nothing against solo Jay (Jay is great) but I’d like to see both of you on screen together more.
Nick got drip
Honestly yeah they bounced off each other really well
completely agreed, half the reason i’m here is for the bromance
More on screen Nick is a good idea. Great work on the video.
@@remogaming791 Pretty sure you can delete the B. I think they're actually a couple.
Fun video I enjoyed this. Shame on the final price.
As a full time eBay re seller specialising in Warhammer my 2 best tips to any eBay sellers would be
1. NEVER do auction. You give yourself a 7 day window to find the right buyer. There's a very good chance the right buyer won't see your listing at all. Put it by now for a price you'd be happy with and wait it out.
2. Feedback makes a big difference to finding a buyer who will trust you enough to spend big, and it also helps your listing more visible with the eBay algorithm
My thoughts: If you're not selling an ENTIRE 2000pt list (and more) of an army, it probably hurts the models to be a non-traditional color scheme. I mean, if I wanted to purchase a pre-painted army and cared how good it looked, I'd also NOT want to have to paint match to an off-the-wall color scheme.
If you do this again in the future, try an already existing (and maybe even popular!) color scheme.
Very true, set the buyer up with something they can easily add on to over time.
Thought so too. You wanna maximize profit? Find out what the most easy to integrate color scheme is.
This honestly was one of the most fun videos you have posted for a while, great job! I think you could make a series of it and try to learn from earlier attempts to eventually make BANK! :D
I don't know but suspect people who buy painted units either might want to include them in their already (self?)painted army or will buy several different painted units over time to build their own army - so going with an official scheme might help.
Yep, when I buy some extra units off eBay and they are painted, I usually only bid on figures that are really close to my already painted minis. I play necrons, and use caliban green for the shoulders, I don’t mind adding that to an eBay figure as long most of the model is close to my existing models paint scheme.
I think instead of working with a starter box if you curated a popular army and made it battle ready (1500-2000 points) then you would have more luck.
Nick’s profiency with 3D and photography is really impressive
Dude was literally hand-chosen to work on the Superbowl 😉
I agree... Nick is a 🌟
What a bargain! $350 USD for a painted box set, I would of been over the moon if I got that.
I think it would have sold higher if it was a more popular army.
I agree, yucky squats
Not popular? They are all over the internet, everybody is painting them.
'Squats' have been on of the most requested armies to be brought back/updated for decades. The other being Sisters. The real problem with selling on ebay has little to do with the army, and far more to do with name recognition or competition with Chinese sweat shop painting companies. In this case people saw a real possible deal, and they intentionally bid low.
As someone who used to sell painted units and armies on ebay for several years, I personally know that selling at reasonable start prices, with good or better paint jobs, doesn't mean high bids.
100%, and painted as a common chapter/craftworld/hive fleet, etc. That's a massive issue for a lot of people. Why buy a tiny army lot painted in a colour palette that you've never seen and may not be able to match?
Really fun video. You should totally do a series painting Kill teams for profit. You’ll get the same amount of content from a smaller cost and time investment, you’re most passionate about Kill Team anyway, and you can knock out a huge variety of teams for our enjoyment
That's good idea mate. I would watch that series. 👍
this!😁👏
Kill teams and warbands are a good idea for this - matching any new purchases to an army set is going to be difficult. But a kill team (and maybe some extra models) allows someone to jump in immediately, and not have to worry about color scheme/skill/appearance matching.
Just when you think throwing stuff at least once per vid is Jay’s signature move, he doesn’t do it, completely subverting your expectations! A true artiste!
I agree with many others, that it would be more profitable if it was a more popular army. Also a factor that I've noticed really makes a difference in an items final price (that you didnt really factor in/mention) was what day and time of day the final hour of the auction lands on. Try to aim the end of the auction for mid day on a saturday or sunday (Which usually means placing it the previous week at exactly the time you want it to end for 7 day auctions, obviously). Many people only even see items with a few hours left (Impulse buy) and you will have the largest amount of eyes scanning the "warhammer" keyword and auctions ending soon.
Just as a buyer I have got some seriously good deals on items that I know for certain if the auction wasn't ending in the middle of the night or an odd time in the morning, that I'd have had at least a few other opportunistic bidders to fight with.
Definitely doesn't help~
If they want to snipe the auction at the end won't they just increase the bid by a dollar or something?
I actually buy and sell armies as a sort of hobby / slide hustle.
The basic graph of how I sell models online.
NIB Army = 15-25% off MSRP
Built but not painted = 40-50% off MSRP
Painted badly = 55-65% off MSRP
Painted decent = 50% off MSRP
Painted God Tier= +20 to 25% MSRP
Heres the kickers.
1. A paint style the buyer cant replicate themselves might as well be painted badly because the buyer needs to be able to add models to their army that look similar so if youre going to sell a whole army it better be 2000 points and competitive so they dont have to paint and add new modesl that look worse than the ones you made.
2. Buying a whole army is a huge investment and like people who buy anything custom it needs to be perfect for them OR be an insane deal.
3. Armies are a point of pride for most players and it becomes irksome when you constantly get complimented on a paint job you didnt do
4. The one that gets a lot of people. The cost of buying a god tier painted model and commissioning your own custom painted god tier model is virtually the same. So why would I buy an army painted god tier when for the same price I can commission my own completely custom army.
Lastly the world is in a recession and I assumed this was shot probably over the course of Oct? Which means recession + holidays coming up = bad time for warhammer resellers.
The one dollar starting bid thing isssssss finnnne risky but fine. It was a much better idea for content because starting at 1$ you at least have a guarantee SOMEONE will buy it, but if you listed at 500$ theres a chance no one would buy it and the video wouldve kind of had a ....weird ending.
PS: In case you want to do it yourself its a fun hobby. Warhammer armies are cumbersome so if you find one at a garage sale or swap meet you can usually get a really good deal just for them to not have to lug it back to the house. The best deal Ive had so far is 2k+ points of Eldar for 120 USD (Sold to a friend for 140$) and 3k points of Primaris for 150$ (I split it out and sold it online) If you get a good deal give a good deal.
Recently, once I break even on a lot. I give away 500 point armies to new players trying to get into the game for free the only catch is they have to play at least 3 games. My philosophy is if you can play 3 games for new players thats basically 12 hours of game time and by that time youre pretty invested.(Now that I write this I think I may basically be a warhammer drug dealer) I also just sell to my friends for whatever I bought the models for. I dont make a ton of money, but my friends arent the SIGMA MALE GRINDSET HUSTLER😏 that I am so they have a tougher time finding and getting the good deals. It loses profit but as long as I break even. I essentially get models I want for free and my friends get cheap models.
The GW shop has several guys and girls doing project work on consignment, building is classed as one project and painting the other, but you have to supply the boxed items they don’t purchase them, they have battle ready, options for painting and three different subtypes, installation of magnets are a separate project, also if you have a specific colour scheme you can put that in the project deliverables. I had two students at university I coached who did this as a team together one did the building the other did the painting. They also did tutorials on painting and playing games like a PT coach, I think now they are 4 people (partners) who also run games nights and weekends sessions.
I don't even play warhammer but I really enjoyed the building process and tension during the bidding. The amount of work done for this video is also way more than other youtubers who simply vlog their daily meals. Nice job both!
Nearly 20 years ago, I bought two Imperial Guard Steel Legion squads on eBay, which were fabulously well painted. The price was ridiculously low (~$35), given their quality. I got really lucky.
I turned around and sold two of my own unpainted (but primed) Steel Legion squads, and made my money back and then some. Goes to show that people are not getting value for their painted models.
Y'all really leveled up your video production game here, this video was fantastic - great work Nick and Jay!
Seriously, one of the most fun mini painting videos I've watched in a long time - awesome
10:07 The aperture setting is incorrect on your DSLR camera, if the depth of field is too small and gets too out of focus. While you need a wide aperture for low light conditions, you can compensate by having a bigger (worser) ISO or slower shutter speed.
Wow, I don’t understand anything you are talking about.
Used to sell Bolt Action armies on E-bay on a regular basis. Pricing for me was $5 (USD) per fig for man size (7 for cav and 10 for larger figs) Vehicles like tanks were $20. Added in the retail cost of the army, and then shipping and e-bay costs. Sold at that price on a regular basis but stopped doing it years ago. Never claim Pro Painter, most who do ARE NOT. I used to claim above average wargaming standards. Problem these days are kit costs have doubled and gotten silly. Take flames of war for instance, tanks are average at $10 for kit cost unless you get starter kits. Add in cost of decals and another $10 per vehicle for assembly, painting, decaling, and dusting and sealing. That is $20 a tank or $100 for 5, have a hard time getting people to want to pay that for 5 little tanks, but it costs me 50 alone to buy them.
I've always assumed that you can make more depending on when you end an auction. If you end the auction around say 7ish pm CST on a Friday (most people get paid on Fri) you can get a bit more.
Then also, rep helps too. A reason why you may get less would be because of a low rep. something that can be easily remedied by doing a couple low cost transactions - that they couldn't do in this instance.
Again, this is all assumption and I'd appreciate others' input.
The real funny part is that now that they know EOB painted it, who ever bought it will probably be able to sell it for $800 lol
Or even more.
@@nachochips529 Easily over $1000 lol. Arriving into a competition with a good army built by a pro player and painted by a great artist has no price [well, a very high one lol].
@@Lex60 Actually, it's something I wouldn't value at all, but I'm sure some do.
@@nachochips529 right there with you, actively knowing someone just slapchopped the paint job in a day would make me just want to save the extra money and do it myself
@@violetstitch absolutely. Also, painting is one of the main reasons I collect silly plastic toys anyway.
Maybe it didn´t go as good as you expected, but damn if this video was a lot of fun to watch, good job you two guys!!
Nick's asides-to-camera game is really on point.
Nice Squats, Jay. The hazard stripes on the guns are really neat. And I really like the robot-head option for the Squats.
Maybe the next time, with this successful sale and a good review, you'll get more next time. Of course, we'll all be adding "Painters R Us" to our watchlist in the hope of picking up a sweet, sweet deal.
In the past I've sold some armies on ebay, unpainted I think the highest price I got for one was around £600 (there was a good amount of stuff in there) I was thinking about selling my T'au army recently and had a look on ebay and noticed that a lot of armies aren't going for too much anymore, even well painted ones seem to be struggling; there is a cost of living crisis going on so it's interesting to see how that is having an impact upon the hobby.
I mean this, who is buying toys when gas and rent prices are the highest they've ever been
@@andrewkaminskas7721 just because prices are high it doesn't stop everyone from buying things, people earn money and spend it how they like.
It’s such a shock that that no one sniped at the end…$360 would still be a killer deal for a buyer
OMG @eonsofbattle I saw this army, I was going to bid on it but shipping turned me off being in Aus- so many Regrets .... :(
I think it's a credit to you and other youtubers for teaching the community how to paint, there are more good painters out there so it drives prices down :P. The army looked great anyways though, so you can have that pride.
I don't want to spoilt the ending of this video but....ouch. Please know that at least you boys thoroughly entertained us.
What would also be fascinating is to do this again, but posting as yourselves, and announcing the army for sale on this channel and other social media first, to compare the effect social media has on sales like this.
I think it would be more interesting to try it again but on an account that is unknown but has some seller feedback.
I hope you guys do another, loved the video
The recast ones sure do. A magnetised custodes army can sell for 2-3times as much it costed to make. And that is including the cost of the printer, but not counting "work hours" .
I think if this became a series, that’d be fun. Plus as mentioned, maybe having more reviews and feedback on your eBay will get you better sales. Thumbs up for the video
That sounds about right for resale... this just says more about ebay than anything else. You usually get ~30% market value on any item in pawn, garage sale, ebay whatever - unless you bought gold/silver or collectables that appreciated.
Excellent video guys!! Seeing the live range of emotions with the auction at the end was a great watch
Dang. Really thought that was gonna go for more than 350. Maybe because you started low it gave the impression you had little worth for the work you did. If that makes sense. I thought up did a bang up job! It was nice to see more of Nick! Fantastic work as always!! Thanks gents!!!
I’m not good enough yet for my painting to “add value” but I feel like if you just love painting and are good at it, it’s really not a bad side hustle. Doing what you love and you get paid. Obviously there’s probably ways to improve your profits like putting it up for higher or doing more ‘main stream’ factions. But it’s an insightful video
Yeah like, you're probably not gonna make a profit off this. But if you judt like building and painting for the sake of it and would rather the models go to others than be your own collection, it could be a decent way of lightening some of the financial cost of the hobby
@@ByzanQueen Yh. I guess my point is if you say bought a combat patrol box for £100 or whatever currency. Painted them all up and sold them for say £200-300 for arguments sake. You’ve technically made a profit and if you’re happy with your current army and just like the hobby because of painting. It’s good to recoup or make money off the hobby. Your profit margins are probably tiny when you compare the time spend vs the sale but for me, If I did it. I’m at university so I have a lot of free time so it wouldn’t matter anyway. If that makes sense
Awesome video! Very well edited, excellent pacing. Seeing you work for specific goal makes deeply engaging. Even the sponsor part was fun. Definitely would like to see more of this kind.
Their transition was smooth from needing a vacay right when picking up the brush was smooooooth lol.
4:38 “We’ve been enjoying chaos” mmm… I see, so you have chosen heresy 🧐
This was one of the best videos, edits and right amount of comedy. Love it. Nice work.
I never sell as auction. You have to plan when you start the listing so it ends during weekend and you have to make sure all your listing shows up in correct areas. Also people love to not pay more than 50% the actual value and no more. eBay isn't retail it's second hand cheap stuff.
I sold about $80k worth of 40k on Ebay in 2020. There's a definite hierarchy of how much a model with get with unpainted-on-sprue getting the most to painted at the bottom. Painted minis have to be REALLY good to recoup your money (and have good pictures, end on 5pm Friday or Sunday...) there's a real formula to getting the highest price.
Oh I love those hazard stripes on the bolters!
What an cool experiment!
I have just listed my og 1989 Hero Quest that I’d painted up and I didn’t know what to price it at! I asked in a fb group and I got a lot of compliments about my painting from total strangers so I’m hopeful! 🤞😊🤞
Well, it's the models which'll get you the maaaney. I think you'll be just fine with a 1989 copy of Heroquest... 😁
@@jack-a-lopium thanks! And I hope so! I’ve got Lego kits to buy! 🤣
🫢whoops
@@jamesi188So how'd it go?
Well Jay, i have zero regrets to this day grabbing your incredibly painted Deathwatch army, and feel i got a great deal for it.
If that makes you feel any better
Have you given Painters R Us good feedback on eBay? 😍
@@euansmith3699 i bought it a long time ago
@@matts6093 I missed the "Deathwatch" part of your comment 🙄😄
Was it as much of a steal as the votann one though Matt?
@@jinofthesheep it was a 2500 point army, or around that. I would say the paint job was superior to what he did on the Votann army
6:50 isn't it quicker to just grab like 5 figures, and paint color by color? so you first paing all of the orange parts, then blue, then highlights and you get the next 5?
(I'm not a painter nor player just love to see people design these things but thought this could be more efficient)
Just re-watched it. Ending the auction on a Friday in between 4-5pm works better. You get a lot of peeps who can't resist goofing off at work on Ebay at that precise moment. OR, if you end it on Sunday before 5pm is good too. You don't want the Snipers occupied with their favorite TV show or making dinner.
Part of the problem is no feedback. Part of the problem is it has to appeal to the right buyer. I think those eBay sales are traps or going to end up a loss. The only people making money doing this are doing commissions where the buyer has specified what they’re looking for.
Maybe some one with social media clout can get a little better than this test, but it still comes down to “do I want my army looking this way”. Especially consider when it’s not a 2k army being sold so they have to replicate or commission someone to replicate it on other models
Thanks!
I love your videos and Jays narration is always awesome you can tell he really loves minis ❤I really do love the fact you both were in this one a fair amount. As well as Jay and his bro have a friendship that translates well to the audience. Great work gentleman. May you battle many more Eons! ❤
Great video fellas! Super fun to watch. And I agree with many of the comments saying was good to see more of Nick. With Jay as the artist and Nick as the tech guru you guys make a great dynamic duo!
0:35 Hey! Thats not true, I can chose if I want my landing gear to be up or down, I can choose… yeah thats about it :(
I have buying (at a discount) Warhammer 40K armies, building and painting them and then selling it on eBay. Generally, I make about $15,000 per year. Mostly, it’s a way to hobby and not have to clutter my house too much. I usually sell a 2,000 point army for about $995.00.
Did you paint it to match a faction in the codex or just pick a random scheme? Matching a faction color would have allowed using the models in an existing force or as a starting force and adding additional models later adding value.
I dont know if you guys hired a new editor or just decided to crank it up a notch but this video was excellent. Keep doing this. Nick being back on the camera was cool too!
If you want to earn money with (well) painted armies, just make sure to reach the biggest audience possible:
1. Choose a very popular army.
And by popular I mean one that sells to high prices and fast in used or new conditions.
2. Choose a very popular paint scheme.
Now this can be a bit tricky. But you can also approach the other way around: Avoid unpopular paint schemes. And use paint schemes that are very attractive for the eye. Best would be probably staying close to GW Box cover.
3. Simple, but eye catching and creative basing.
That might even be the one thing that makes the army more unique from similar paint schemes.
3. Take good pictures.
Image stacking helps a lot. Show the (hopefully well painted) faces of the most outstanding minis.
4. Write a lot of text how you did the painting and basing.
Give it a(n emotional) background and maybe a tiny bit of lore.
5. !!! Give the buyer the option to get more models in the same style !!!
Just imagine you would like buy an army for 800$ but you desperately want to have the one extra character who is not included. Do you still buy it or not?
Well, chances are, if the painter gives you the option to purchase more minis in the exact same style, you'll more likely bid on the army. Also, this is a win-win, because someone who is willing to spent a lot of money on a painted army is most likely willing to spent more on some extra work. And because you, the painter, already know how to paint this particular style, will have an easy way to earn extra cash without too much effort.
If I forgot anything, please add below. No one should work for one dollar an hour because of bad ebay sales.
:D
I think some of these pre painted sellers on eBay sell the models just to recoup the cost so they can get better at painting. Also helps build up there portfolio for potential jobs and if they do commission based work.
I loved this video!!!! So good to see Nick, seriously your production value in your videos has skyrocketed! So glad to see both of you bringing your passion and art form into this channel. 🎉
I never comment on youtube but this was probably your most interesting video since the creation of your channel. Thank you for posting this.
only sold for so little because of the zero feedback. If you wanted to do this for real, you need to spend a few months painting single heroes, or underworlds teams, then maybe a killteam or warcry set. Then with the feedback from those, you'd easily sell this one for $1k.
But out of the blue. Pro photography. Zero feedback. Nice paint and build. That's just a scam. I'm surprised anyone even risked $350--guess it was just a gamble that seriously worked out for someone with $350 to risk completely wasting
Good reasoning, but how often does getting scammed on ebay really leave you screwed? Somebody sold me a fake Pokemon card once. I complained to ebay and got my money back almost immediately.
What an excellent video! The concept and the tone were super fun! I'd love to see you guys try again with a different approach to the ebay side.
LOL you may have not made the bank you were hoping but its one of the best vids you’ve done in my opinion. The auction countdown at the end was surprisingly entertaining.
Also as a film guy I wanted to suggest that if you have the camera with the optics and good lighting. You can achieve full focus by closing your aperture and widening your Depth of field. Specially if you’re on a tripod. That being said stacking images is a good option too specially for someone working from a phone.
You’re stuff is growing on my all the time thanks for the hard work!
I could feel the excitement as you watched the auction finish - feel bad on your sale price but........... makes for a good video - especially the painting bits!!
i thank that becouse of the squat nerf this sold for much less than it should have but this was a great video, hope it blows up and makes up for the ebay sale
I loved this video. I can tell you put a lot of time into it. The paint job was great also. I think people might have a hard time spending a lot on a color scheme they didn’t pick. If it was done in the Margie W color scheme, I bet it would’ve sold for more. Great army great video thanks!
You kind of have to filter out results below a certain threshold when looking for miniatures,
otherwise you'll see tons of auctions from people trying to get a few bucks for their leftover bits.
Even if you get more clicks out of a low listing
they will probably be from people who are looking for second hand models, rather than folks who are looking to buy a battle ready army.
Oh man the random $4,000 setup "gangsta life" cut was incredible. Spit my coffee out laughing so hard.
I'd say if this was a business and you were paid like £10 dollars an hour (I am English, I don't know if that is good or bad.) then you did $300 of work, paid $200 which means you would have to start it at $500.
If you were a hobbyist, like you did it in your spare time and sold it like after a week of chipping through it all then you could of sold it for more.
Also, they probably didn't sell well because people want to buy aims based on a existing colour scheme, like Ultramarines, or Iron Fists or black Templars, not Jerry's home-brew.
The only case where home-brew is competitive is if you were selling a knights.
that was a good video. I'm shocked but not surprised at the outcome. good job fellas!
Nice to see Nick honestly. I started this channel when you guys were together pretty often on screen so this feels right. No offense Jay! I love the "Jay's Big Comfty Couch" show lol
I approve of the message this video, but for an all new account I recommend that you sell a few items at a reasonable price to get in a few good reviews. That will help you get a better price down the line.
I really liked this video!!! Was really interesting to see the whole thing from start to finish!!!!
probably already said, but selling painted models is hard as the color scheme has to be what the buyer pool wants. the buyer is also locked into the painting style and theme.
If you're going to buy retail and give them a pro quality paint job you need to market them as pro painted to stand a chance of making a profit. In which case you need to be able to show more than just one painted army in an off brand colour scheme.
A better way to do it is buy job lots cheap on ebay, especially jumbled lots that don't make a full army from any faction. Split that into units with the number of models people actually want to field in an army not the random number of models GW put in a box to make you buy 2. Give them the most generic colour scheme to maximise potential buyers and only spend as much time as it takes to do a good 'Eavy Metal' paint job. Elder aspect warriors used to be good for that as they could go in any army with their standard colour scheme.
Even then, these days, you might not see enough of a profit to make it worthwhile.
Very nice work on painting and photography. I would value the force at $700 for sure.
As was mentioned, the 0 feedback likely was making folks a little hesitant to bid.
I don't bid on ebay, bots will always out bid you at the last second. So you never end up with what you want for a good price. On the other side of that is sellers getting low returns because people don't want to waste time bidding if someone has a bot on something to sit on an item just saying plus one or snipping items.
I think if you had painted space marines you probably would have made a better profit. Mainly because if someone's buying to add to an existing army, the space marines will already be the same color scheme, since the chapters are so ubiquitous. Even doing something like Cadians, Necrons or Orks, which are generally going to be close to the "official" color schemes most of the time would be good too.
With this, they either have mismatched Votann, or this is their first purchase, but now they have to try and paint the rest of their army the same color scheme.
I like the DRG error cube at the foot of the first dwarf you painted. R&S!
Should’ve done a mainstream (box art) color scheme. I usually sell normal ultramarines and blood angels for a good profit. People want things that will match what they have more often than not.
I'm new, wanting to paint a mini as an adult, but didn't realize what weapons used from the spru matter to value, i was building based on looks.... so I notice castarferrum dreadnought that have gattling gun n claw arm (close quarters)sell on ebay for 25 n the one with the gattling gun n the 9x rocket laucher arm (more ranged) sell for 20?
I think I would have loved the neon green with a glow in the dark paint to actually get the feel of them radiating light.
This was super fun. Always like seeing both of you in vids
Good for you that you have got some profit. The absolute majority was sold with a great discont, about 50%. Do not forget about shipping and comissions.
I'd bet you'd get more bids painting them the same color scheme as the box. GW spends a lot of time and money researching default colors that will sell models, so why let that work go to waste if you are just gonna sell?
Ebay is always a crap shoot, unless you develop a specific model like buying things cheap overseas and flipping them. Still though, its a great place to sell collectibles, been doing it for years after I get tired of a piece in my collection. Rarely make any profit but it lets me put the money I sold the item for back into my print and statue collection.
Personally, I'm a good painter but not amazing. I sold a 2k points White Scars Primaris heavy army, 3k of Raven Guard, and 1k of Harlequins on eBay. Didn't make a killing but I was able to paint up the armies, play with them, then sell them and use the proceeds for my next army. Not a bad way to go about it for the average player.
Awesome video guys. Sorry it didn't sell for more. Loads of fun to watch you guys do such a great job in such a short time.
Great vid. It just shows there is no money in selling painting models, the only money is in commision painting where you set your rate upfront.
The big problem with listings like this, especially ones that use non-standard colour schemes, is where do I, the buyer, go from here? I've bought the starter set from you and now I want to expand my army with 2 more units. Do I try and paint them myself matching your scheme? Do I go back to ebay in the hope that someone else has matched the colours? Or do I put up with a pick and mix of different colour schemes? The number one thing I want to know as an ebay army buyer is can I expand on my purchases. Ebay sellers that are pro-painters should make sure they offer vouchers or something so people can expand, or stick with an army that has a set standard colour scheme (like a space marine chapter).
Like it here’s have said I think the feedback is the biggest issue. I avoid buying things from people with low feedback. Maybe sell individual models for a little while, drive the feedback up and try again.
I recently sold a Necron army on eBay. I didn’t realize they take 12.5% and if it’s over 600.00 they send a 1099 form so I have to report it on my taxes.
I was lucky that I did make money on it but it didn’t cover my time painting. I paint for fun so if it was commission driven I would have been screwed
Best idea so far for a series, you can do better, smaller army’s or just HQs
This has been my experience of selling painted minis on ebay auctions.
The problem is the audience: whoever is looking at buying minitures on ebay is looking for a deal, not to spend large amounts on collectibles...considering this you guys actually did well with almost doubling MSRP.
Those were beautiful models. Thanks for the video. I have bought and sold Warhammer stuff on eBay and I never seem to make bank. Usually you break even before EBay charges you.😂
$200 - $300 US is the "disposable income" number, generally speaking. Meaning people can spend (up to) $300 without thinking too hard about it in the US. Anything over that requires additional scrutiny. And that's in a good economic climate.
Honestly? I would have said something like that would sell for $350. I sell a veritable f-k ton of stuff on eBay (mostly other people's 40K stuff on commission), and that's right in line with what I would expect. Anyone paying more is going to watch custom work, or a lot which matches their current army (i.e. Blood Angel Space Marines). I think painting a random...non-lore-based Squat force hurt you tremendously. It's a tiny model collection which they'll now have to try to match, etc. I think you would have seen better results painting a small force like that in a chapter/craftworld/hive fleet style which is more common.
Well... Even though you guys both got super screwed, that was probably my favorite video or yours.
- I really like the Nick & Jay Show.
- the editing was hilarious and amazing!
- as someone who wants to sell minis it was rather insightful.
- the end was tragic... But tragedy + time = comedy...?
throughout the video I was thinking, it would be cool to sell multiple armies or models to see if there was a pattern because one sale could have been a fluke, but at the end of the video is not really worth going through that again.
Thank you both for your hard work and giving us goblins entertainment.
I put 1 skaven model up for auction that I painted with a 99p starting price…sold for £56..for 1 small rat