GW Stopped Making These Models FOR A REASON
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- Опубликовано: 25 май 2024
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This week I finally tackle a model that I've had on my shelf for a good long while. This old resin Contemptor Dreadnought from Games Workshop, and possibly a reforge? I'm not sure, is in really rough shape. I tried my best to save it and I think it will be great to have in an army at some point. I am pretty fascinated by those old/new beaky marines, so this might just be the starting point! That being said, the plastic kits for these are far superior, and I will be on the lookout for those going forward. The Resin is just not great...
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FOR THOSE WE CHERISH, WE DIE IN GLORY!!!
@KitbashCarnage that’s awesome! I just subbed :) when you get a chance hit me up over email, I can probably help you out :)
About the possibility of it being a recast, if you can look at the model and it looks like an embarrassing garbage cast covered in mould lines squashed/bent details and barley fits together without needing a ton of filler it's probably safe to say it's a legit GW model.
😂
He speaks the truth!
where’s the lie though
Yeah that's also my experience. Forgeworld is terrible.
It's a sad truth, I've definitely had more bad than good gw resin kits.
This is the nicest thing that has happened to a Lamenter in millennia.
Agreed
Yes, it sure did come out nice.
lol
It is an absolute crime that GW threw away the vertical contemptor heavy bolter design
your free hand is amazing.
i had a ork model that had that level of damage with finecast, his leg had flashing and i found a part of the mold in his cape, so maybe it's one of the last produced before the mold was decomissioned :/
Thanks!
When those Finecast molds go they really go, I've had more bad ones than good, unfortunately.
@@eBayMiniatureRescues I had one of the later Chaos Familiars casts just before they were removed, with originals made in the 1980s. It really wasn't that bad. Those are all really small models though, which may help.
I miss these old resin contemptor kits. I understand recasting. GW threw out a lot of history and fun with all the unique chapter ones that just isn't fulfilled by anything they're offering.
May be wrong here but I’m p sure theirs chapter specific resin contemptors on the updated gw website
@@Zackorii the old legion contemptors had completely different designs, the new ones are just a torso
Excellent work on the restoration and I do appreciate the generosity you give the former owners' creativity and skill level; everyone has to start somewhere.
On this one I feel like so much effort was put into the restoration/yellow paint that the twin bolter arms were overlooked; perhaps simply because you didn't say what you did to them I felt like they were barely noticed. Something that might be helped on the next one would be adding some soot or blackening around the barrel; canonically it makes sense with the rocket-propelled ammunition and irl it checks out, since such a venerable and ancient dreadnought would never be allowed to rust; but if theres rust, then it would have dirty barrels as well. Armchair painter gripes aside, you still knocked this one out of the park and I'm happy to see a vintage model be given a second chance.
Comment for the algorithm gods!
I'm probably gonna have a go on the wife tonight, should I expect you to drop by and offer some tips?
These would be great additions! I definitely was focused on the repairs and the yellow. Just the repairs took up most of my painting time, so I didn't even think about the casings or the guns much. The plan right now is to take this as a foundation and build an army off of it. Then I can add those extra details across an entire set of models :)
LAMENTERS! FOR THOSE WE CHERISH, WE DIE IN GLORY! Love lamenter representation, and your take and freehand is exceptional.
Always love to see things brought back to the original idea of a project. It's a great way to share the joy if anyone spots their former buddies in their new life.
Oh God! It's Lamentors! XD That's so on brand for being a sad abandoned model on Ebay that needs rescue. Poor little Lamentors Dread
As someone currently working on their own Lamenters army, I loved this video! You definitely did the battle brother proud with the paintjob! I might also use that technique for my own dreadnoughts, when i get to them! Great work!
There are times when you do these videos when I think, I would have just played the thing as it was. This one looked so much better after you fixed it. I love the "damaged" look on 40K minis. The big pieces almost have to have damage. This is not a game where these armies are all shined up for parades. I rarely ever paint one that I make pristine.
nah older forgeworld resin was nightmare fuel to build, i have the same model and mine had a lot of gate marks and flashing
My NL Contemptor was decent but my SOH one was a hot mess. Too much detail that had flashing all over it.
Ironically recasts I find have better quality in such cases, especially since theyre more than happy to replace bad casts
It's sad that this isn't a surprise, probably why they are killing off most of their resin models too. I've had a handful of alright resin minis from them, but most of them have been pretty terrible.
It's amusing that I have the general opposite opinion - the worse the resin, the more likely it was Forgeworld. I don't do 40K anymore (outside of 2nd edition), but the recast stuff I saw in the local scene was always better than the 'proper' stuff...which is pretty sad.
Hi eBay Miniature Rescues, I've been struggling with perfectionism with my Horus Heresy Imperial Fists for a while. This video of you working on an imperfect model has made me realise that you can work mistakes into a model's paint scheme to make it even better and give it some character. Thanks a lot! Also a great tutorial on yellow paint!
Wonderful work. It's also nice to see that if the need arises I can probably throw resin into the sonic cleaner too.
Definitely! It's a great way to straighten out bent resin too when the sonic cleaner warms up.
You know, it does make sense for a Lamenter's unit to be looking worse for wear, considering their "curse"...
Another successful fix! 🎨
Beautiful model. And I love the tips on painting yellow. One day, my imperator titan will be oranges yellow and purple when I get the skills like you.
Just Laughed at the Lamenter being used as a tea strainer in your sonic cleaner.
I have a coworker who used to come into meetings with her tea cup with hot water and a splash of milk and her tea strainer being dipped in and out until it’s the right color of milky brown… just like the video.
lol I tend to think about making tea when I grab a model out, like somehow the paint will come off and make the solution change color.
I like to find old plastic models(planes, ships, tanks, etc). I refinish them and give them a new live on the shelf. It was fun and enlightening to find your channel. You've given me some good ideas as to repaint my acquisitions.
Awesome! Glad you made it over, and thank you :)
I see those OPR minis! Glad OPR is getting more love!
I've been printing like crazy, just started the Vampire army, really excellent models!
Thanks for another great video. Love the review of the printer. I'm still waiting as another hobby of learning how to fix a printer is not something I'm trying to do right now. The future looks bright for easy prints
Really nice rescue...but somehow the guns just don't feel...finished, like they're missing something. Anyway, just picking nits. Fantastic work as usual!
Lamenters 21st’ founding, Horus heresy was about 6000 years before their creation.
I can’t believe I actually know that.
Ok I’ll shut up now 😉
Dante probably felt bad for them and gave them a relic they weren't using.
Disagree. The new plastics are not better. More parts, more joins to get panels messed up. The resin dreads will always be superior. Nice to see it in better shape now. Shame you couldn't fix the elbow joints. How'd the Chapter symbol go? Freehand, or Transfer?
I haven't worked on one of the new plastic models, but in general, I prefer the flexibility of plastic. To each their own of course. The freehand is going to be a different video, but it's coming together!! Lots of videos combined for that one :)
Nice rescue Casey, that looked like a real pain to clean up.
I feel the same way about my elegoo mars 3, however my new Saturn 3 seems to have trouble doing the sme things. Unexpected failures even when the mars (printing the same thing) manages it flawlessly.
Casey, I loved the model but you skipped all that gorgeous freehand you did - it's a shame, I would have to loved to see that too. Great work as always.
There will be a video on that at some point :) I definitely skipped it for a reason, as much as I didn't want to.
I would love this guy with my lamenters. hahahaha
Only suggestion I could make is black casings on the Heavy Bolters to break up all the silver!
Hey Casey I love your channel and your content is absolutely top notch. Please continue to save more minis from uncertainty.
Thanks :)
Another great video. Thanks for sharing.
I was today years old when I learned there was a super glue de-bonder! To the store!
It really came out - when I saw the rust you were putting on the chest and I was skeptical but it really did turn out very subtle ❤️
The water makes it look like a lot of paint, but it's so little that it just fades away when it dries, very effective though :)
That pink resin gives me 1980's Wrestle Trashcan minis from K-Mart.
Great rescue!
Hi Casey.
I've been trying to airbrush more to paint bravely ;) and take inspiration from you.
I know it's not your thing but some kind of guide to the tools and process you use would be ace.
I'm definitely improving but I think it could help a ton.
Ace paint job as always.
In my experience recast even bad recast is most of the time better than forgeworld resin
Same, for sure.
I ordered a pretty badly painted farsight and I’m super excited to restore a mini for the first time
Nice! That's a rad model too :)
I wish I had the money to get one when the ec contemptor was in print. Luckily I have a printer tho
Recast is usually higher quality than GW because they actually inspect their products before shipping them
Huzzah, such good work as usual Buddy.
Haha love the toothbrush moment:)
For sure :)
These are all on heavy rotation right now, depending on the day. In no particular order, but lately I've been huge into Spirit Box, Malevolence, and Sleep Token.
The Fear of Fear - Spiritbox
Rakshak - Bloodywood
Hushed and Grim - Mastadon
Malicious Intent - Malevolence
Sound Awake - Karnivool
Macro - Jinjer
The North Corridor - Chevelle
The Art of Survival - Bush
Take Me Back To Eden - Sleep Token
DAMNUM - Allegaeon
For Those Who Wish To Exist - Architects
Constellations - August Burns Red
Ultra - Vatican
Casey saying “throw on an Album” instead of playlist is why I subscribe. 😂 young’ins don’t know the power of listening to a full album now a days.
Lol. And fighting the urge to not skip that one song you don't like because you have to get up and do it.
Stop making enemies of your own design
Same here, right on.
lol I love it. I have a hard time with singles and playlists, I feel like I'm doing the band dirty and not listening to a planned and thought out piece of art. Gotta go from track 1 or not at all.
I would love to know what specific paints you used to get that yellow
Liquitex white ink, Liquitex muted pink, and Liquitex Yellow ink (transparent)
I think you messed up a bit on the guns they look like solid silver chunks, I think they really could have benefited from doing the various bolts magazines and cables in the back so their is a bit more visual variance.
This is why I always soak my model bits in Simple Green for a few minutes, regardless of material, then give them a good scrub with dish soap and warm to hot water before doing much of anything. I tried Totally Awesome for sonic cleaner duty and it didn't do near as well as Simple Green does for me. BTW, Casey, how often do you change out the cleaning solution in your sonic cleaner? I need to try and practice the sponge chipping technique, because frankly? I suck at it!
Interesting, I've tried simple green and I've never found it to work as well in the sonic cleaner. I try to clean mine out every week, depending on how many models get run. It definitely works better when it's fresh! Sometimes I will run a model just to see if it still works and if it doesn't really do anything then I change it out, but if it's mostly working then I will just go with it and change it after, so I guess it does depend on how well things are going for each run.
I am curious about how good the fan/filter is on the GK2? I have a few printers and trying to reduce the leftover odour is my biggest issue.
It's not bad, there is still a smell, but compared to other printers that I have it's not nearly as bad. The filter for the gktwo is pretty beefy too, and it seems to be doing its job well.
I find it funny that it has a grey knight helmet on it
Another great video
I'm not sure shiny silver works with yellow, it should have been a darker gunmetal
Is LA's totally awesome a stripper that doesn't melt resin or does the sonic cleaner speed up the stripping fast enough to prevent melting?
LA's Totally Awesome is just a concentrated degreaser that is 99% water, so it's very safe on resin and plastic. It does cut through the paint very well though, and the sonic cleaner just speeds everything up and gets into the harder to reach areas to break up that paint. The only problem with this setup is that the sonic cleaner can get pretty warm, even without a proper heater, so resin can get bendy. Also good though since if you have a bent piece you can let it heat up and bend it back into place. But no melting or issues with resin otherwise:)
The problem with not deciding it is good enough and starting to paint is that you never get to play with the model.
Very true, and I still do that for a lot of my models. If you need to get models on the table for a game or whatever, then by all means, do what you have to do! I've been there too.
The problem is, it eventually becomes an excuse to not improve your skill level and it's really one of the easiest things to help make your models look better right out of the gate. Spending that extra 10 minutes to clean mold lines is something that you will never regret when all is said and done.
I think you accidentally left out the Riptide footage
Gah you're right, but I like the new icon picture you've got going on, looks like a cool model!
Sir I have a quick question, how do I remove gorilla glue super glue without damaging my miniature?
I don't see people bring this up oftern, but older forgeworld herasy stuff looks very rougth, especialy for the prices they charged. Thier newer casts look fine, not quite sure why, maybe mold overuse...?
Anyway great repaint, looks incredable man!
Looks like it could be an easy steal for marines malevolent 0.0
feel like some of the details were weirdly ignored. like those big barrel amo belts. with the exposed rounds left base silver was meh. and the guns being so mono silver. detracts from the excellent detailing of the shoulder/free hand. even like the barrel holes left default silver is such a weird choice. like. at least paint them black to give the illusion of barrel holes.
I firmly believe minis are like 1-2 focal points and then the basing. the shoulder/chapter freehanding, excellent, basing, well done, but "guns" are almost always a focal point. and they were left rather meh.
I have a couple of these Dreads and they arrived in unbelievably bad condition, hours of work cleaning them and I still found areas I missed. Some of the worst resin kits I every picked up from forgeworld.
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Recast models are usually better than forgeworld models. Like, that's actually a pretty commonly accepted reality among the 30k fanbase.
Chinese recasters tend to sell better products than FW. People would buy a model from FW, then have to complain about parts two to three times before finally getting sent a part that was actually a good cast. Meanwhile, recasters would only send good casts because they actually have quality control.
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Easiest way to tell if it's a recast is put it next to a known authentic FW Contemptor. If it's a bit smaller, it's a recast. I did grab a recast NL and SOH Contemptor after FW discontinued them to finish my Armies. They're smaller than my real ones.
I'll have to check for that if I can find another one!
Sooo... Album recommendations?
I mean, I do print minis, and I buy them, why can't it be both?
3h cleaning the model
Imagine being GW and deciding that you’re gonna charge people exorbitant amounts for a mdoel that isn’t paint ready after assembly and a bit of cleanup.
Even if it is a recast Ive seen finecast…. It’s wirse than any recast Ive seen myself
They stopped making them becuae they happliy can charge bear same price for just a torso... gw doesnt do consumer friendly.
In the end yeah, not very consumer friendly. Personally, I'd rather have a plastic kit over the resin, but they could certainly stand to be more reasonable about it.
equating GW resin to FW resin is, IMO, really disingenuous and pretends that finecast is the same thing, which it very much isn't. Not to simp for GW/FW too hard, obviously, but I feel like it's a point a lot of people intentionally gloss over.
Coming from a guy that has at least 500 models made purely of FW resin ....and a warlord titan made of FW resin ...you're talking out of your ar*e
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Why didnt you just print the mini instead of buying from ebay???
less waffling and the video would be better, you have a 23 min ep on a warlord titan with less waffle this this entire video
but I like waffles! That warlord titan video though, that was a good long while ago, I still can't believe that only ended up being 23 minutes, I know what you mean though :)
Well all that stuff from1:30 is bull ...if there are broken parts it's due to how it was put together or how it was weathered ....you don't need loads of super glue for FW resin ....this is all just silly ....FW resin was superior to plastic ...the details so much more crisp ....
I think you may have missed some of the points I was making because I didn't say anything about one being better over the other, and I definitely didn't say you need loads of glue for fw resin.